10 WORST TROPES IN EROTIC FICTION

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Writing with Jenna Moreci

Writing with Jenna Moreci

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@ChemoshKamos
@ChemoshKamos 4 жыл бұрын
"The only place alpha's and betas belong is therapy" true in and out of fiction
@Rebelheart1985
@Rebelheart1985 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still not sure why it’s a thing but it only makes sense if the characters shape shift.....and maybe not even then
@MortMe0430
@MortMe0430 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the only place "alpha" and "beta" really belong is in the Greek alphabet and the hard sciences, lol. Then again, in the American military (Navy at least) you're classified as alpha, beta, etc purely on age basis for physical fitness test purposes; like under a certain age you gotta do so many pushups, in the next age bracket it's a few less, etc.
@jonathandavis8051
@jonathandavis8051 3 жыл бұрын
The whole idea of betas comes from the idea of alphas, which comes from a flawed study on wolves. An alpha male wolf is the canine equivalent of a human psychopath. The closest thing to "alphas" in the wild are basically leaders that look out for the good of the pack. The guy who popularized the idea of the alpha male also realized this after doing the same study that he did on captive wolves on wild ones, and that's what he found. He tried to tell people he'd been mistaken, but by then the idea had already taken off and he couldn't stop it. Bottom line: Alphas are just assholes and I don't even know what the hell is going on with betas
@KyrenaH
@KyrenaH 3 жыл бұрын
Ok normies.
@Xoruam
@Xoruam Жыл бұрын
-Said a woman and then went on to date and bang an abusive, muscular millionaire, who was also a former convict and was ten-timing her on the regular, without counting the occasional one-night stands at the nightclubs. When her closest male friend asked her, why does she continue to date this guy, since there's literally zero chance of him, ever wifing her up, she answered that "she cannot help it, she just loves him too much". After she expressed her desire for the ten-timing boyfriend to be more like her friend - caring, loving and always available - the friend tried to suggest a relationship, but the woman quickly shot down the proposition, saying "I said I wanted _him_ to be like you. I am sorry, but I just cannot think of you this way, you are just too... _nice."_
@mimiwtcbb
@mimiwtcbb 4 жыл бұрын
Straight erotica where the man knows the woman’s body better than she does.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen what counts as sex ed in the US, may be unlikely but not impossible.
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 4 жыл бұрын
In general straight women love feeling as though a man knows her in's and outs and being able to "diagnose" her telepathically and know exactly what he's doing. It makes them feel special, like the relationship is "meant to be" because she wants to get married and have him forever like some princess in a Disney movie. So in a nutshell, they love magical shit because they're goofy. So although you personally can be annoyed at that trope, no girl I've dated didn't want that feeling and it made them alot hornier. So you're just kinda in the dark.
@xpouii-3992
@xpouii-3992 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Sanders Wow good job telling a woman what should turn her on as if she literally doesn’t know her own body. Tfw you’re a living trope.
@khatunamezvrishvili6211
@khatunamezvrishvili6211 4 жыл бұрын
I mean women's sex education isnt the best but still
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 4 жыл бұрын
@@xpouii-3992 I never told her it should turn her on. She said that it was a bad trope and I explained to her why she is clueless as to why that trope is not only prevalent in stories but also in real fucking life. Don't get so ass hurt.
@villaimouse
@villaimouse 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how when Jenna was talking about alphas and betas my brain immediately went "what about the omegas, it's called the omegaverse for a reason" I need to get off the Internet
@imani7979
@imani7979 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading fanfiction for wayyyy too long
@TheSoCalSoutherner
@TheSoCalSoutherner 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't alone...
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 4 жыл бұрын
Dameged for life . . .
@ilikedogs1022
@ilikedogs1022 4 жыл бұрын
*PTSD*
@sunsetvampcat4672
@sunsetvampcat4672 4 жыл бұрын
Ngl half the things she mentioned in this "what not to do" I've read in fanfiction
@veronika4870
@veronika4870 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jenna for specifically stating "penetrative sex" some folks just keep forgetting there are lots of other nice ways to be physically intimate too. Even in a heterosexual pairing.
@rociosilverroot2261
@rociosilverroot2261 4 жыл бұрын
This so much. I've written three sexy scenes and only one of those was penetration.
@archangelmichael3902
@archangelmichael3902 4 жыл бұрын
Which is still the best part of heterosexual workout routine in my humble opinion :)
@jonathandavis8051
@jonathandavis8051 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a straight man, and "penetrative" wouldn't even be my go-to if I had a partner. Not only is it not the only option, it's not always what straight people prefer in the first place XD
@DoubleLs617
@DoubleLs617 4 жыл бұрын
Fifty Shades of Grey is a handy example of what NOT to do when writing erotica
@srslydoatm9251
@srslydoatm9251 4 жыл бұрын
Or any book ever
@tai_cha8495
@tai_cha8495 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@exammole4545
@exammole4545 4 жыл бұрын
The Only Thing Humans are equal in is Death I’m sure there are books that portray sex errotica correctly.
@littlearies3862
@littlearies3862 4 жыл бұрын
@@exammole4545 i think they meant 50 Shades is an example on how to not write any kind of book. Lol
@khatunamezvrishvili6211
@khatunamezvrishvili6211 4 жыл бұрын
And 365 days. But that's basically the same thing lmao
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 4 жыл бұрын
"Allosexuals don't make sense to me" Me, an asexual: Ah yes, a woman after my own heart I see!
@Alexandretta
@Alexandretta 4 жыл бұрын
Saaame. I was like, "One of us! One of us!"
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@HabitualTeapot
@HabitualTeapot 4 жыл бұрын
Same, acesexual representation!!!!
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize she had so many ace followers!
@cicibear1109
@cicibear1109 4 жыл бұрын
YESSS. Ace ace ace ace!
@joseph883
@joseph883 4 жыл бұрын
We're supposed to say "eat the rich" but sometimes erotica says we should "eat out the rich"
@shangc2781
@shangc2781 4 жыл бұрын
*Begrudgingly slow claps with an appalled and disgusted look on my face*
@CorinneA3
@CorinneA3 3 жыл бұрын
*angrily likes*
@edwinwilliamson5913
@edwinwilliamson5913 2 жыл бұрын
Motorhead volume intensifies.
@MissEarthling
@MissEarthling 2 жыл бұрын
😡👍
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
@@edwinwilliamson5913 Surely Lemmy saying "eat the rich" is "the phonecalls are coming from inside the house." level, I suppose if he clarified billionaires that would be good.
@monkeyming5545
@monkeyming5545 4 жыл бұрын
My soul almost left my body when she said “They put babies in erotica” 💀 😂
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. I lot of the stuff I've seen focuses more on conception, and brushes all the other stuff away. Not that I haven't seen cases where they really REALLY didn't.
@dandanthedandan7558
@dandanthedandan7558 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, pregnancy sex is a fetish
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 жыл бұрын
@@dandanthedandan7558 Just the implication of getting (someone) pregnant an even bigger one.
@thegazetteyt
@thegazetteyt 4 жыл бұрын
The virgin trope is just terrible. I don't know why women want to read a story about a woman who has sex for the first time instead of a woman who has had the best sex she's ever had.
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 4 жыл бұрын
Purity kink?
@adde9506
@adde9506 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the readers are primarily virgins and males with a fetish.
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 4 жыл бұрын
Add E probably more likely lol
@ZeoffArcaneOfficial
@ZeoffArcaneOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@adde9506 Based on what some of my friends over the years have written, you're surprisingly less correct than you'd expect. Twilight, while not erotica, is one of those "yup" examples.
@Reggie2000
@Reggie2000 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, that's what guys want in a women. Someone who is amazing at sex because she banged 50 men. Mmmmm Hot! I'm so turned on right now thinking about that slew of dudes who banged my girlfriend. Yummy! I hope I can run into five or six of them at a party.
@stegobookosaurusrawr4153
@stegobookosaurusrawr4153 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to work in an adult shop, I can say the amount of people who don't know the anatomy of their... special bits is actually horrifying... Nice to know that some authors also fail to do their research :/
@KatieMaddalena
@KatieMaddalena 4 жыл бұрын
It really is. And get this. One time - I have no idea how this conversation even started, btw - but a dude on the internet told me that, as a woman, I'm really lucky I don't ever have to pee. And I got downvoted for calling him an idiot, and people told me that "It was just a joke and I didn't get it." And guess what? The majority of these comments, were other dudes. Trying to make themselves not look like idiots, and failing miserably. Moral of the story is: Just do the research, please. It takes ten minutes. Your readers will thank you.
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
Or do research the wrong way, or decide they don't care. So much cervix bashing manga. So much manga where you make when cum by bashing their cervix, and you know they cum because milk sprays out of their nipples like ejaculate.
@shayolinparker2934
@shayolinparker2934 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrant-den884 I mean the whole "cervix bashing" isn't completely inaccurate. Penetration can be deep enough in which the cervix can be touched. It feels really good for some people and can cause a different feeling orgasm, but I wouldn't recommend "bashing" it. However, any work in which the cervix is penetrated is horrible and inaccurate
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
@@shayolinparker2934 oh yeah hadn't even gotten there. If you get your sex education from manga, you'll probably think cervix penetration is how it's done.
@rojack79er
@rojack79er 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, which is why I've decided to do my homework on this particular subject. I don't want to write about these two people going at it and then ending up looking like a total idiot by getting a basic fact incorrect.
@harrysecombegroupie
@harrysecombegroupie 4 жыл бұрын
Note to self: never tongue the fleshwall.
@PeanutButterZombie00
@PeanutButterZombie00 4 жыл бұрын
The tagline to next summer's blockbuster horror movie.
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
Not so much a matter of "don't" as "can't", because there isn't one.
@winspiff
@winspiff 4 жыл бұрын
PeaceNProsper Not a slice. It is more like a scrunchie.
@p.e.gilbertauthor3036
@p.e.gilbertauthor3036 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeanutButterZombie00 Hahaha! That would make a tagline for a horror film all right
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrant-den884 Unless I'm reading too much into it, that's precisely the point. He's implying he learned the wrong lesson.
@lucylerma8211
@lucylerma8211 4 жыл бұрын
#1 sounds like wattpad. EDIT: I watch the whole video, this whole list reminds me of wattpad
@HulluitsCece
@HulluitsCece 4 жыл бұрын
Wattpad is the worst place to read stuff like this 😅 especially if it isn’t an author who is older than like 19 years old
@lucylerma8211
@lucylerma8211 4 жыл бұрын
@Strider Xanthos I think colorless is good. Haven't finished it though. I mean there's good stories however My wattpad is mostly a gulity pleasure rabbit hole.🤣🤣
@lucylerma8211
@lucylerma8211 4 жыл бұрын
@Strider Xanthos Do you not have the app ?
@Marianiki2002
@Marianiki2002 4 жыл бұрын
The whole list *is* wattpad. It's like the "writers" there saw this video and said "yea, let's do *all* of these things".
@Marianiki2002
@Marianiki2002 4 жыл бұрын
@Strider Xanthos I don't know about now, but when I was in highschool ( like, six years back) *all* of the stories were romanticised toxic, abusive, god awful relationships. So... I think that's why it has a bad rep.
@WritingMomSamanthaLNasset
@WritingMomSamanthaLNasset 4 жыл бұрын
Research is so important, yoh. XD
@zakai-kaz
@zakai-kaz 4 жыл бұрын
How is this 1 week ago
@ariasteel4770
@ariasteel4770 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there a comment from a week ago?
@vividlantern8854
@vividlantern8854 4 жыл бұрын
No really why is this comment a week old even though I just received the notification?
@jessmhen12
@jessmhen12 4 жыл бұрын
Patrons get early access videos
@kattriella1331
@kattriella1331 4 жыл бұрын
*gives Fifty Shades the judgemental side eye*
@andyshouldbewriting
@andyshouldbewriting 4 жыл бұрын
I can't love you more for the "fetishising gay men" section. Although my experience of reading gay erotica is graphic "fun" with ice lollies or cucumbers. Thank you for showing everything has the potential to be terrible for everyone regardless of gender!
@khatunamezvrishvili6211
@khatunamezvrishvili6211 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I thought you meant you didn't love her anymore at first
@andyshouldbewriting
@andyshouldbewriting 4 жыл бұрын
@@khatunamezvrishvili6211 Oh god no 🤣 I worded that so wrong!!!
@khatunamezvrishvili6211
@khatunamezvrishvili6211 4 жыл бұрын
@@andyshouldbewriting I think you should remove the "any" and just leave "more"
@andyshouldbewriting
@andyshouldbewriting 4 жыл бұрын
@@khatunamezvrishvili6211 Thanks. I should really stop commenting in my sleep deprived state.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the thing is, Erotica is about indulging Sexual Fantasies, not for delivering a smart story or message. It's cheap Fast Food, not Gourmet.
@nevskislake
@nevskislake 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! There is a reason erotica shorts are known as "quickies." I don't think most erotica writers are striving for award-winning, thought-provoking entertainment. They are just like, "Man, I had this hot dream last night, you guys. Wanna read it?"
@sociallyacceptablepi7449
@sociallyacceptablepi7449 4 жыл бұрын
I once ate a burger that tastes like dirt. I'd like the rest of the burgers I eat to not taste like dirt.
@nevskislake
@nevskislake 4 жыл бұрын
@@sociallyacceptablepi7449 - Taste is subjective.
@lilscenechick1995
@lilscenechick1995 3 жыл бұрын
You can write about quickies without butchering human anatomy. This is just an excuse for lazy/bad writing.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 3 жыл бұрын
@Sapphic Hivemind That's just a novel that happens to have smut.
@geraldfrost4710
@geraldfrost4710 4 жыл бұрын
"Am I your only one?" "Yes; all the others were at least sevens."
@hibouowll7468
@hibouowll7468 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only you've slept with? Yes, all the other kept me awaken.
@alexandernorman5337
@alexandernorman5337 4 жыл бұрын
(after doing it) "How many girls have you slept with?" (solemn face) "One..." (after long pause) "...thousand two hundred and seventy one."
@Grabthar191
@Grabthar191 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandernorman5337 That sounds a lot like the line Johnny Depp used in Don Juan. Didn't he say after that "I probably should have lied." or something like that? :P Or maybe it was, "She didn't take the news as well as I'd hoped."
@Amatyahu
@Amatyahu 4 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@georgebailey8179
@georgebailey8179 4 жыл бұрын
"Am I the first woman you've had sex with?" "You might be. Your face looks familiar."
@GretchenV95
@GretchenV95 4 жыл бұрын
I’m getting real tired with the creepy alpha male “Doms” using being a “Dom” as an excuse for borderline stalkerish and abusive behavior. Ugh!
@squeemdweem
@squeemdweem 4 жыл бұрын
"Excuse me while I lobotomize myself" Omg I'm going to use this every day!
@lenlordofknowledge
@lenlordofknowledge 4 жыл бұрын
Me: doesn’t know anything about erotica and wouldn’t even consider reading/writing it Also me: ohoho yes! New video! Let’s watch!
@frogk694
@frogk694 4 жыл бұрын
If you dont know a n y t h i n g about erotic, well, im sure you were surprised to find out lol
@AnnabethMLewis
@AnnabethMLewis 4 жыл бұрын
Can't relate-
@MocaLykke
@MocaLykke 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with 7 though. It's perfectly fine for anyone to enjoy or write gay erotica. There's a difference between enjoying gay porn/erotica and fetishizing the LGBT community. Basically, don't confuse fiction with reality and don't treat real people as wank material... Also, most of the time the erotica/porn that you enjoy doesn't say much about the kind of person you are anyway, or even with what you'd enjoy in real life. Cue the numerous lesbians (yep lesbians, not bi) that I've either met through writing m/m fanfiction, or am just friend with and know that they like m/m porn, and the many many straight women who enjoy lesbian porn.
@hviw
@hviw 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what she even meant by "fetishizing gays". Since she didn't define it, was wondering if she just meant any gay erotica.
@gryph346
@gryph346 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing how inclusive Jenna tends to be with her explanations, I think she was refering BL that fegishizes gay relationships more than good healthy sex between two consensual dudes.
@MocaLykke
@MocaLykke 4 жыл бұрын
@@gryph346 - Yeah but where's the line, then? What's fetishizing and what's not? BL is not it. It might have very problematic and recurrent tropes but it's an extremely broad genre and there's nothing fetishizing in the wholesome love story between the coffee shop owner and the salaryman (and their cat). Plenty, if not most people (including myself) enjoy BL like any other kind of romance and don't fetishize gay people in the slightest. And plenty of lgbt literature written by gay men depict unhealthy relationships or tropes. So is it a fetish when a straight person has gay characters in their work? Or when the relationship depicted isn't a perfect representation of every queer experience of the 21th century, or spawned from activism? As a big fan of both fantasy, cuteness and casual representation, I can't agree with that... Yeah, there's ridiculous literature and clusters of "problematic fangirls" out there, but the problem is in people's worldview, lack of education and behavior towards real life people. It's the only part that should matter. Fiction has nothing to do with it and most problematic fangirls are young teenager who just don't know any better but will eventually grow up, learn some common sense and oftentimes become allies. (In this specific case, mind you. The fetishization of lesbians or POC is a very different issue, since both have been linked with actual homophobia and racism.)
@randomrants148
@randomrants148 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't at end of day what turns you are if getting off from books, cartoon arts, whatever I pefer that then people hurting each other for their own pleasure.
@thewritersquill
@thewritersquill 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna: The problem is when the harem is made up of all brothers. My brain: *flashes back to Brothers Complex* Me: *pours mixture of bleach and hold water onto my brain* That’ll teach you!!
@Grabthar191
@Grabthar191 4 жыл бұрын
Guys have it all the time... "Twins, Basil, twins" (Austin Powers: Goldmember) :P
@claire98
@claire98 4 жыл бұрын
I watched Brothers Complex, and I actually liked it...because I decided to view it just as a girl getting to know her new brothers (platonically, like friends) - for my own sanity.
@thewritersquill
@thewritersquill 4 жыл бұрын
Clarie 😂 I hear ya! I had to stop. It was too much for me.
@daydreamingstars2980
@daydreamingstars2980 4 жыл бұрын
The disclaimer *This is not for children* never works. you already know there’s gonna be some 11 and 12-year-olds watching this video who already read smutty fanfic
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs 4 жыл бұрын
Who do you think writes them?
@starrysara.xoxo2
@starrysara.xoxo2 4 жыл бұрын
👀
@daydreamingstars2980
@daydreamingstars2980 4 жыл бұрын
Mecharnie Dobbs 😂😂😂👌
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
They probably write most of the worst fanfic that has the girl's anatomy wrong anyway. 12 year old boy virgin at least has an excuse to not know how girls work, grown adults doing it - I despair.
@aoexbasment78
@aoexbasment78 2 ай бұрын
Im a 14 year old and i don't care i've heard worse.
@Shatterverse
@Shatterverse 4 жыл бұрын
Billionaires are just modern nobles, story-wise. Real nobles were never "prince charming." Seriously, look up the Habsburg dynasty if you want a big steaming example.
@Reggie2000
@Reggie2000 4 жыл бұрын
I'll thank you to leave my big jaw out of this discussion please.
@trinitythex6625
@trinitythex6625 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reggie2000 I lol'd out loud for real at your response. thank you for that.
@matunusdonnerhammer3423
@matunusdonnerhammer3423 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree on "don't fetishize [X]". It's a sexual fantasy, so fetishize, whatever people fantasize about. Just be aware that your fetish has nothing to do with reality and that the group of people you fetishize propably wont like your book.
@AnnabethMLewis
@AnnabethMLewis 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this.
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
It's sometimes combined with terrible anatomy. Guys bleeding from the ass the first time you fuck him, because he's a virgin. We don't work like that...
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't fertility fetishes one of if not THE most widespread fetish of all? Just saying.
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's THE biggest (so many moms right now) but it is up there.
@nevskislake
@nevskislake 4 жыл бұрын
I write erotica, but I enjoyed this video. Thank you, Jenna! The only thing I would say is that erotic fantasies tap into some of the darkest parts of our psyches, and a lot of those fantasies can be problematic. I think erotica, for all of its flaws, is a safe way for some people to explore those fantasies.
@StrongButAwkward
@StrongButAwkward 4 жыл бұрын
"Not kink-shaming but actually I am" the video. A couple of these are good points, but yeah, several of these are just 'man I don't get this fetish so ew'
@kerricaine
@kerricaine 4 жыл бұрын
i think the babies/pregnancy thing would fall into the catagory of "niche fetish". for some people, that's part of what gets them off, the idea of the POV character getting knocked up/or doing said knocking.
@HulluitsCece
@HulluitsCece 4 жыл бұрын
“You have no one to blame but yourself” my mood for 2020 lmfao 😂😂
@TheDragonCat99
@TheDragonCat99 4 жыл бұрын
This video is basically just listing things you’re not into while not-so-subtly kink-shaming those who are into it.
@SteffanieLuv
@SteffanieLuv Жыл бұрын
Exactly. And why are people against vulgar language in erotica? It's.... erotica for a reason. How many times can you say cum or semen before it gets boring? Maybe readers WANT something more descriptive like "ropes of glistening cum" once in awhile 🙄
@Hrafnskald
@Hrafnskald 4 жыл бұрын
#7 has been common in erotic fanfiction for decades. One Direction, Harry Potter, etc. Any two male characters will have more pairings in fanfics than all female characters combined.
@lizabethhampton4537
@lizabethhampton4537 4 жыл бұрын
That Jenna is baffled by the concept of a breeder fetish gives me life.
@Cheetahgirl_Studios
@Cheetahgirl_Studios 4 жыл бұрын
“Who the hell started putting babies in erotica?” I don’t know for sure, but I’m betting my money on a certain Stephanie Meyer...
@alexandernorman5337
@alexandernorman5337 4 жыл бұрын
Erotica pretty much equals fetish and so I'm not really surprised by any of this. I think the point of it is people reading/writing about things they wouldn't actually do.
@samhainlegge9563
@samhainlegge9563 4 жыл бұрын
Me: doesn’t plan on writing sex scenes in any of my planned books. Also me: I have to watch this.
@corenlavolpe6143
@corenlavolpe6143 4 жыл бұрын
2:44 Ah, yes. Chads vs. Simps
@lizabethhampton4537
@lizabethhampton4537 4 жыл бұрын
The four genders: Chad, Simp, Virgin, Whore
@notjamin
@notjamin 4 жыл бұрын
"allosexuals don't make sense to me" permanent mood
@ghostchainscatterer1794
@ghostchainscatterer1794 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get us either
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, is allo the same thing as pan or is there a difference?
@peachpaty8873
@peachpaty8873 4 жыл бұрын
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer Allosexual means you experience sexual attraction. If you're not on the ace spectrum, you're allo
@ghostchainscatterer1794
@ghostchainscatterer1794 4 жыл бұрын
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer It's the opposite of asexual
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 4 жыл бұрын
I think I get it. So gay, lesbian, bi and pan would be under the umbrella of allo?
@soundsoftheheart3164
@soundsoftheheart3164 3 жыл бұрын
"number 3... Babies" 🤣🤣🤣 I don't know why I laughed so hard!
@sleepingArisu
@sleepingArisu 4 жыл бұрын
I've been on the internet for too long, none of what is mentioned surprises me anymore
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 4 жыл бұрын
Criticizing erotica (except for the anatomy part) seems a little strange, as it's by its very nature a very niche product that's meant to appeal to some rather specific fetishes, and most of them are not meant for wide appeal. I dislike babies as much as the next person, but of someone's turned on by idea of pregnancy, hey, whatever floats yer boat. That said, still loved you video, very entertaining (and I 100% agree with the anatomy thing)
@star-gutz9770
@star-gutz9770 4 жыл бұрын
Me as soon as you brought up alpha stuff because I thought you meant A/B/O:😳 but with the fetishizing I would like to bring up I see alot of trans fetishization in books that aren't in stores.
@eveescastle5866
@eveescastle5866 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the porn industry does it, so I'm not surprised. Also while we are here can we talk about those people who fetishize rape? Like are you ok?
@jojol.2630
@jojol.2630 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same things about the alpha stuff lol
@star-gutz9770
@star-gutz9770 4 жыл бұрын
@@eveescastle5866 💀
@KyrenaH
@KyrenaH 3 жыл бұрын
She probably did mean the a/b/o trope.
@SuperRussianGoddess
@SuperRussianGoddess 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you're in your mid-30s still thinking masturbation should end in orgasm when not everyone is able to achieve one. For some people, the goal is simply pleasure.
@onewinter9411
@onewinter9411 4 жыл бұрын
Me, writing a slow-burn Japanese historical romance: well... You never know
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 4 жыл бұрын
I misread the title as erotica fanfiction, and I'm glad that was misread
@adde9506
@adde9506 4 жыл бұрын
All statements still apply. Though this was definitely more subjective than usual.
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 4 жыл бұрын
worst is most erotica fanfiction is not as horrible as erotica "real fiction". excluding the 90% of fanfiction that are just garbage because they are written by 14 year olds that wouldn't even be legally allowed to read their own work of course. But the better FF writers have a better handle on their sex scenes than professional erotica writers. Or at least the bit that i read
@lolimsooedgy7809
@lolimsooedgy7809 4 жыл бұрын
@@Metalhammer1993 you havent read(i also havent)Japanese light novels that got adapted in asterisk war in the First chapter the mc saw the female lead's panty😧
@VictorSnider
@VictorSnider 4 жыл бұрын
"Excuse me while I lobotomize myself" is my new favorite phrase. Thank you for this gem, Jenna. Oh, and the tips too I guess.
@_greenrunner_
@_greenrunner_ 4 жыл бұрын
*whistles* *Takes out notebook*
@mattofthe7pathes
@mattofthe7pathes 4 жыл бұрын
"I've read books with characters who've never had an orgasm even though they do masturbate." I laughed too hard at this 🤣🤣🤣 Jenna, I love you now
@jasminemazzarella
@jasminemazzarella 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so it's morally wrong to write/enjoy erotica that doesn't match your orientation? If a gay person enjoys heterosexual porn, are they "fetishizing" heterosexuals?
@jam985
@jam985 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, it just depends on if it changes the way you view others. If you watch gay/straight porn and subsequently start viewing gay/straight people as sexual objects (only thinking about them in sexual situations), then yes you are fetishising them. If it doesn't change the way you view them and you understand that they don't just exist to have sex for you to get off, then you are not. It's a fine line
@loud6037
@loud6037 3 жыл бұрын
If they are or aren't, in my opinion that's none of my business. They have every right to not expect their private thoughts and feelings to be policed. Freedom of conscience is a thing for a reason, and even if, as a heterosexual, I am uncomfortable with it, bad luck - I don't get a say in what other people's sexual desires should be. My rights as an individual do not extend to being percieved only in a manner of which I approve.
@TamaraWoods
@TamaraWoods 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna says cooter and I clutch my pearls. This was definitely a fun one to watch.
@easternlights3155
@easternlights3155 3 жыл бұрын
"Did you lose something up there?" I've seen too many weird x-rays to completely rule out that possibility.
@daydreamingstars2980
@daydreamingstars2980 4 жыл бұрын
Asexuals- “I am very uncomfortable with the energy we have created in the studio today“
@deargodwhatamidoing1122
@deargodwhatamidoing1122 4 жыл бұрын
The last point gave me GIANT fifty shades of shi...sorry, gray vibes
@AyDeeAichDee
@AyDeeAichDee 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Fifty Shads of Grey (the most well known erotica book) checks off nearly all of these tropes.
@thegremlinduke2190
@thegremlinduke2190 3 жыл бұрын
Fiction is Fiction write whatever you want, thank you for the laughs. This is why I like writers they are just weird as heck and I am weird as heck, lol.
@XenIsWhen
@XenIsWhen 2 жыл бұрын
Erotica thrives on taboo subjects, but definitely not realism. You might as well ask how elves and hobbits are supposed to be believable while pointing out the problematic elements of both. (I'm sure there are video essays on exactly that.)
@MalarikFilms
@MalarikFilms 4 жыл бұрын
I blame myself for being shocked and offended. Eww alpha's and beta's
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 4 жыл бұрын
She skipped the fact that there's a specific genre or erotica which is Alpha and Beta gay fetishization. And it's weird. Like, in some of it the alpha male can impregnate the beta males.
@codenamemango9701
@codenamemango9701 4 жыл бұрын
Dominic Noble has a video about the trope. It's a little more nuisanced than how Jenna portrayed it.
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard 4 жыл бұрын
I mean...even using the not-strictly accurate wolf pack dynamic for terminology sourcing, the super-ultra-doormat guys would be omega's...the whole thing's just a pile of stupid no matter how you look at it...
@MalarikFilms
@MalarikFilms 4 жыл бұрын
@@Amy_the_Lizard yeah. That is true. The walking dead did it better
@yovanimartinez1918
@yovanimartinez1918 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna: eat the rich Lenin: interesting
@DawnzeenaMcGill
@DawnzeenaMcGill 4 жыл бұрын
I once found human x dinosaur erotica on Amazon. It was freakin weird. Like why would a hungry T. rex be more interested in doing a human woman than eating her? And why the heck did running from the rex arouse her?!
@MOONSUN4Life
@MOONSUN4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Quote of the Day: "Did you just lose something up there and you're trying to fish it out?" I laughed out so loud, I think I startled my neighbors. That was brilliant.
@MortMe0430
@MortMe0430 3 жыл бұрын
As for the reading/accepting of certain highly questionable tropes (not the motivation to write it, really can't touch that), I have a theory. It's mostly to do with generations who grew up in the internet age, can across a lot of things they didn't expect / didn't quite understand initially and were (morbidly?) curious about, and over time became desensitized to it in a way. That's all I got.
@foxthemess518
@foxthemess518 4 жыл бұрын
"Excuse me while I lobotomize myself" Is the best friggen thing I've ever heard- I literally wheezed. Man, her videos never fail to make me laugh.
@WhiskeyBlack777
@WhiskeyBlack777 3 жыл бұрын
Jenna: "flesh wall" Me: *recoils in horror*
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
I've literally fought a flesh wall in some video games. tongue punching it into submission never crossed my mind.
@EmberLung
@EmberLung 4 жыл бұрын
"I then proceeded to tongue punch the twitching, pulsating wall of flesh until it erupted" - Modern Erotica Novel or Lovecraft? The answer MAY surprise you!
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a Slaanesh WH40K fanfic, as well.
@patriciawilkin1258
@patriciawilkin1258 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody buy Butters the damn earmuffs!
@sunnycastiglioni7512
@sunnycastiglioni7512 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao I guess you've never heard of the breeding kink 😂😂😂
@AnnabethMLewis
@AnnabethMLewis 4 жыл бұрын
Gundam Tanaka: I guess the pitiful mortal hasn't. My hamsters breeding are my kink.
@stogucheme
@stogucheme 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but at least some of this is kinkshaming.
@madmaddiesmadhouse4062
@madmaddiesmadhouse4062 Ай бұрын
Some kinks are shameful
@drew-agay765
@drew-agay765 4 жыл бұрын
“Allosexuals don’t make sense to me” is the biggest mood though
@matrixdream9746
@matrixdream9746 4 жыл бұрын
Me, an asexual, watching this vid: *Taking notes* Jenna: "Allosexuals don't make sense to me." Me: 👀👀👀 "Oh???"
@Zack-eq3ou
@Zack-eq3ou 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction, lol
@qatonfire7476
@qatonfire7476 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@magicstarlet
@magicstarlet 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when they write erotica between teacher-student, family and relatives, or their relative's or someone else's partner (cheating) and many more disgusting, unethical and immoral stuffs in an attempt to make it hotter because "Ooh... naughty."
@geraldfrost4710
@geraldfrost4710 4 жыл бұрын
"Bonus content!" content with bones in. Yes! That's what I want! Hot chicks talking about bones! Oh, wait; she's a cyborg; this may not end well... Why is she getting out the hotwings sauce?
@khushbooprasad6519
@khushbooprasad6519 4 жыл бұрын
The point about female writers fetishizing gay relationships was so on point. Like, there are female writers (non erotica) that bring out the best in same sex relationships, but somehow, this just gets fucked up in erotica. And for some reason, most of the popular eroticas seem to focus on relationships that are nearly abusive as if sex and mutual respect cannot happen at the same time
@Dreigonix
@Dreigonix 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no, aside from the parts about bad anatomy and fetishization of homosexuality, this video is just Jenna kinkshaming fetishes she doesn’t like. That’s not okay.
@sethuzwane100
@sethuzwane100 4 жыл бұрын
*sees the thumbnail, winces as a erotica writer but clicks on it anyways and laughs so hard her stomach hurts*
@dandelionroots
@dandelionroots 4 жыл бұрын
I was laughing SO HARD throughout the entire thing, this is HILARIOUS, thank you for lifting my mood xD
@jojooffaraway2675
@jojooffaraway2675 4 жыл бұрын
You were so on point with the commentary. Has me in tears of laughter.
@brunnacunha5040
@brunnacunha5040 4 жыл бұрын
girl!!! youre ace?? god it's so nice to see someone who's ace talk about erotica and the weird stuff in it!! as an ace like. idk just. warms my heart to see someone talk so casually about it but also it felt like a wink to the community when you said alloosexuals!! im just 💕💕💕
@leonp7235
@leonp7235 4 жыл бұрын
As a tentacle monster i would love to see a book that isn't about breeding. I mean, everybody knows how much work a human child is. Imagine that x 4 arms x 800 of the little rug bugs!
@KupKate215
@KupKate215 4 жыл бұрын
Erotica writers should be required to take a sex ed class before being allowed to write.
@futtynucker5278
@futtynucker5278 4 жыл бұрын
"I didn't know there were so many words for semen" Proceeds to dish out thirty terms for said jizzum. Slow clap intensifies.
@CanisSubwoofus
@CanisSubwoofus 4 жыл бұрын
"PEEK-A-BOO" 😂😂😂😂
@Dycehart
@Dycehart 4 жыл бұрын
Came to be informed, got kinkshamed for not hating semen.
@Azure_Sandora
@Azure_Sandora 4 жыл бұрын
My least favorite Erotica trope is my favorite fetish ironically enough. BDSM. You'd think I love this trope. _I'd_ think I'd love this trope. But the problem is, very few writers know how to write it, I find. The dom is usually some big tough guy with a soft side deep down, and uses BDSM because he's "a rough and tough man who says no to no one", and the sub is some demure, princess like wallflower or sensitive soul that _needs_ to be protecting because she's so pure for this world and has never even THOUGHT of entering a BDSM relationship but has "submissive tendencies". As someone who's into BDSM in real life... *_IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THIS AT ALL!!!!!!!_* Most BDSM in erotica feels more like rape to me. I've seen maybe a handful of BDSM stories that show it right, but they're few and far in between.
@micmac274
@micmac274 Жыл бұрын
Blame E. L. James and the terrible 50 shades of grey for this.
@Azure_Sandora
@Azure_Sandora Жыл бұрын
@@micmac274 Oh trust me. I do... -_-
@Dark_Peace
@Dark_Peace 4 жыл бұрын
"How many girls have you slept with?" "3" "i thought it was more" "yeah today was not my day"
@sailor664
@sailor664 4 жыл бұрын
I know most videos are self explanatory but this probably could have done with a healthy dose of opinion disclaimer considering the mild kink shaming Jenna ^^;;;
@rileyk.7215
@rileyk.7215 4 жыл бұрын
I never felt like someone *got* me more than I did when you were talking about #5. Hearty, hearty applause. :)
@CommandoANG3L0
@CommandoANG3L0 4 жыл бұрын
Right as #2 was starting a got a KZbin ad for shaving blades for genitals, perfect branding.
@ashbelero
@ashbelero 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of this channel, but I just find it a little weird for someone to have so many thoughts and videos about their opinions on erotica when they admit they don't read erotica at all. not that I like these tropes at all but still
@alyssasteed8227
@alyssasteed8227 4 жыл бұрын
"We get it, you're gross." FAVORITE!
@SlyScyther
@SlyScyther 4 жыл бұрын
Impregnation without responsibility is a MAJOR fetish, especially in hentai manga and doujinshi.
@philyra2
@philyra2 4 жыл бұрын
I usually enjoy your sassy humor, but I think a cheap shot at Alabama is more than cliched. Everyone these days seems to think it's so damn clever to run down an entire state they've never set foot in. Don't believe the media hype. Alabama is lovely and full of enlightened people who have full sets of teeth and wear shoes and have no interest in bedding their close relatives. Can this stereotype and these types of jokes just be put to bed already?
@twixieshores
@twixieshores 4 жыл бұрын
Re: #3, the r/breeding and r/breedingmaterial subreddits would like to have a word with you. (Maybe throw in r/slightlypregnant as well)
@jazz-cat00
@jazz-cat00 4 жыл бұрын
Erm, excuse me, uhm, _S L I G H T L Y ! ! ? ?_
@twixieshores
@twixieshores 4 жыл бұрын
@@jazz-cat00 it's *supposed* to be for people who are only a few months along, though there are plenty of people who are clearly in their third trimester posting there.
@jazz-cat00
@jazz-cat00 4 жыл бұрын
@@twixieshores okay but I still didn't think the word _slightly_ is the best word to use for this instance lol "Oh, did he get you pregananat?" "yes, but only slightly" *visible confusion* (I-I)
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna:... not meant for work... Me: That’s what earphones are for!
@Soikes
@Soikes 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the "subscribe" message at the end of the videos like a week ago and it became my favorite part everytime
@gutsFunnyman
@gutsFunnyman 4 жыл бұрын
Me, whos never seriously written erotica: hmm yes this is important and vital for me, a drama writer.
@mellophonesheikah6223
@mellophonesheikah6223 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is only "sexy" when the man is rich. If he was not, this whole video would be describing several episodes of Criminal Minds
@jayamoore4733
@jayamoore4733 4 жыл бұрын
*Reads title* *has war flashbacks*
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 4 жыл бұрын
5:33 "save that shit for Alabama!" I'm dead. I know the Alabama cliche but damn Jenna.
@Bldyiii
@Bldyiii 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m a “sub” of this channel 😂
@HabitualTeapot
@HabitualTeapot 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on protagonists who are really bad people/the villain of the story? I was thinking of writing/drawing a graphic novel/manga or whatever and I wanted to make the protagonist kinda horrible and fucked up- but I need some tips on how to write her. Danke!
@FritzyyyMan
@FritzyyyMan 4 жыл бұрын
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