Force long-term sick to look for work? Feat. Carrie Grant & Mike Parry | Jeremy Vine

Should the long term sick be forced to look for work?
That's what Alan Milburn, a former Labour health secretary, under Tony Blair thinks...
Calling for fundamental reform to the system he says, the long-term sick must be required to look for jobs to deal with unsustainable welfare costs and reduce the country’s “toxic” reliance on immigration,
Is this the right approach? Or is this unfair on those with ongoing health issues?
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[@olixz]

Funny how we always talk about those at the bottom than at the top.

[@vikingfrog7204]

They're talking about mental health issues, if you put those with mental health issues in difficult situations its like a pressure cooker waiting to explode. It may not be just themselves who are hurt but their coworkers and indeed members of the public. I suffer with mental health issues and when i have an episode i can indeed lash out, im 17 stone so definitely not easy to control when this happens, if theyre signed off its for a reason. Those who have nothing to lose are dangerous

[@jamiepr1991]

Using mental health as an excuse and to get out of working and paying your way I'm life is shameful and embarrassing

[@jamiepr1991]

You need to stop being weak minded and get off your backside and contribute instead of being bone idle and reliant on state benefits

[@vikingfrog7204]

@@jamiepr1991 you need to learn to read, not once did I say I was on benefits, I said I know what it's like, in fact I run my own business but if you want my address and to say those things to my face you're more than welcome to do so, just make sure you bring a bag for your teeth, we can count them together as we pick them up.

[@vikingfrog7204]

You need to learn to read, at no point did i say I didn't work, I run my own business but if you want my address to say this to my face you're more than welcome Jamie. ​@@jamiepr1991

[@vikingfrog7204]

Deleting comments again, if he's big enough to insult me he's big enough to defend himself .

[@DivineLove247]

Pay a proper LIVING Wage, So peoples will take pride and want to work, Minimum wage with Zero hours contract do not pay the Bills, and leads to mental health issues, which leads to going off Sick.

[@olixz]

I work and have crippling anxiety at times. Dont judge anyone for not working tbh.

[@555555345]

Unfair. I really do struggle on a daily basis you don't get PIP that easy. Also I have had health issues since 2006, I need a wheelchair ♿ but the NHS won't give me a even though my legs collapses on me every day

[@Boo-pv4hn]

Autism is a spectrum! Some people can’t work some people are non verbal some people need help with daily tasks. They may say helping people into work but the way they treat people isn’t helpful they punish repeatedly

[@555555345]

I can't even dress myself, i struggle a lot and have to lie down a lot. I have been incredibly grave pain for 18 years not my fault.

[@djbarbergreen3388]

Barbara im a counsellor and it was quite unethical to make such a blanket statement it doesn't help the clients that are suffering from the symptoms of self isolation and the influence of social media and the removal of the arts at school

[@jenniem930]

lets have a go at the worse off again..... i have worked since i was 15 in good jobs all my life, i got covid 2 yrs ago have not been able to work since took 6 months to get a cardiologist appointment still awaiting to find out a consultant that i have been referred to 18 months on

[@Cee75-mm9hq]

I certainly wouldn’t want to go to Barbara for counseling. As a sufferer of severe anxiety I’d be scared to death of her. She’s in the wrong job.

[@Sharon-zi1xn]

I presume she would know if it was genuine or not! Not sure why people want counselors, take some tabs, never known why people want to talk to random strangers, does not help whatsoever!

[@strangetube82]

People need support not punishment.

[@donnnaread6947]

I think all of us should contribute the best way we can , x

[@555555345]

Also I have adult Scoliosis and it is far worse in adults but I get no help from the NHS so this is not my fault also got countless things wrong with me and have to take very strong pain killers every day but even they don't work that well and injections never helped me either .

[@LAJZful]

Everyone has mental health issues now, the psychologists are so quick to label someone.

[@SpankableRoxyRaeOnlyfanscreato]

Barbara wants to lose her job this isn't professional

[@Sharon-zi1xn]

I think she was spot on, she did not mention any names! She should know what she is talking about, and i agree it does seem trendy now to say i suffer with a mental health condition in some way or another!! Everyone has got either depression, anxiety ADHD, some type of disorder or syndrome!! Growing up i never suffered any of this nonsense, i loved life, and there were times when things happened in my personal life when i got really down, but you eventually get over whatever it is, life goes on!! When i lost my Dad nearly 30 years ago now i was heartbroken, devasted, had 5 weeks off work, but went back, had to get on with it, still wasn't over it!! This year one of the worst years of my life, had to get some anti depressants, but i will be OK, i do not want counselling or any of that nonsense, it will get better, life goes on!!

[@donnnaread6947]

The second lady was keeping it real

[@elizabethpointing]

How do you help people to get into work ? I was made to retire as companies do not encourage and help people stay in work

[@perpetualintellectual2026]

They are lazy, we are lazy as a nation.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

People like parry and Malone really need one removed these channels you know exactly what they are going to say.. they have never actually done a hard day's physical graft in there lives ain't got a clue just sit in judgement on the vulnerable.. horrible miserable people

[@flowplanet429]

fact! what ever ''help'' is put in to the system. will be abused and used to extort from abuse harass and attack claimants. not actually achieving anything useful or helpful. the exact opposite.

[@555555345]

Also i have been a carer since 2003 and raised 4 Children and also been a single parent and had jobs in the past but the jobs never lasted .is any of this my fault ? 😡 😡 😡 😡

[@juniormartin3528]

i like to know if mike perry feels that young people should work just to sweet him.

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

He's a sad miserable old ****

[@Cee75-mm9hq]

It’s all very well encouraging people to working but the “suitable” jobs have to be there

[@davidflood8881]

At the end of the day the percentage of working age people in the uk not working is too high its unsustainable. The benefits bill will only keep rising.

[@sardav160479]

What employer is going to take on staff who suffer with mental health illness

[@milo2324]

Deliveroo, Just Eat, Hungry Panda. Even psychopaths working there.

[@BLUESKY-zt1nv]

i finished work and retired at 59 why should i look for work !!! ..i am not claiming any benefits ..i am living off my own money ..my pension money ..life is too short to be working till your 67 that is unless you like or love your job ....i know its the long term sick ..but it still often gets mentioned ..those who are able to work under the age of 65 or 67 ....i have worked since 1979 FFS !!!

[@pt4005]

Who wants a life just sitting around on benefits?! how is that any good for your health. Humans need to Have purpose and accomplishment. You’re just sitting there everyday doing nothing and contributing nothing. What a life?

[@petermizon4344]

I WOULD MAKE PARRY PAY FOR TRAVELLING COST, END OF

[@user-dz8kk6gr5s]

I'd do more than that with him

[@user-rl8mq9uf7b]

MARIAN FROM SUFFOLK HAS A POINT IF I COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S ON ABOUT LOL 😂😂😂

[@drkarenbukharibukhari9931]

I survived on universal credit and pip payments thanks dwp and govt to safe life and present UK government.

[@leebush4053]

The country is full of people who have supposed mental health. Vouchers for work. Go out clean streets. No work no vouchers and benefits. In the words of Jim Royale Mental Health my arse

[@vikingfrog7204]

@@leebush4053 Do be quiet Lee your embarrassing yourself. You state this then go on to quote someone who was on benefits in the show.

[@555555345]

Also lost loads of family members been rife since 2006 more than 20 relatives have died ,like 1 every year and even 2 a year ,also lost a load of family and before that .some were young ,some were middle age some was old .They got ilnness that killed them or accidentally death and even suicide 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢.So i have no mental issues because of this ? Also have had family members who have a really ill too 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@comeoutdoorswithus4406]

I have got a colostomy bag attached caused by blockages and IBS. I never voted for Labour Party because they are the working class

[@briankerrison8504]

Mike is such a plonker.. 🙄🙄🙄🥴🥴🥴🥴😎

[@buntyjoy1800]

Hes entitled no nothing gammon

[@NicholasActon-ej7fs]

Again this goes against human rights that Britain signed up to in a charter is this labour

[@555555345]

I also have depression but this is not my real problem my physical h is far worse and when you can't do things for yourself. Do you think that this is not making me mental health worse. Of course it does.

[@janebufton1960]

Help people into work Help people to kerp the job.this wont hapoen if the re to ill. Employers will not keep them.

[@pdempseyful]

The Jeramy Vine Show - The home of right-wing talking points.

[@amandaburns4568]

sick about right payouts etc 🤬

[@briankerrison8504]

A great welfare state 🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂😂😂🥴😎

[@SpankableRoxyRaeOnlyfanscreato]

What is wrong with you worried about your neighbor and rishi gave his wife millions of our tax half of those claiming pay as pip you can work

[@metalhamster14]

It's time for a universal basic income.

[@shyhistorian]

Paid for by who?

[@metalhamster14]

@@shyhistorian Is there enough money?

[@simon-df9wh]

​@@metalhamster14 yes there is, if you give a load of money to someone who is very rich, they put it into a account, in another country, if you give it to someone who needs the money, they spend it in the country, so the government will get a high amount back with vat, and wages.

[@metalhamster14]

@@simon-df9wh ;)

[@sanchez16]

Comments on my point here switched off so I`ll post here 06/08/24 Vine discussing Algerian female boxer deliberately called her Him then being a coward shrugged it of saying " sorry her " the vile vine meant that to insult the girl get him off this show , he`s ruined it

[@jamiepr1991]

People need to get off their backsides and start contributing in society and not relying on state handouts because it seems an easy reason and a cop out. Its so easy for people to declare themselves Mentally unwell nowadays just for an easy and quiet life

[@shyhistorian]

Not that simple- have you seen how much people get paid through state handouts? In London, it barely covers rent.

[@moomin7461]

You can't just assume everyone who can't work is skiving. There will always be some people like that. There are plenty of people in work who shirk their responsibilities. However, there are many who genuinely need help and are waiting ages for treatment. Mental health services in the UK are abysmal. Many employers don't want to employ people with health issues, because they are a business and want to maximise profits. It's a very difficult problem, but just calling everyone lazy doesn't solve anything.

[@stephenglancy8551]

The biggest contributor to mental health is listening to unqualified talking heads on very poor talkshows. These subjects are basically designed to wind up people who are vulnerable. Jeremy and Storm just go away!

[@Sharon-zi1xn]

Probably best you don't watch then?

[@stephenglancy8551]

@@Sharon-zi1xn I only ever pick up wee clips on youtube. It's an awful programme with awful presenters and guests. You stay in the South of England somewhere and voted for Brexit. You like Carole Malone because 'she speaks her mind' and think that Farage is some sort of working class hero. You enjoy GB news..........?😂😂😂

[@Sharon-zi1xn]

@@stephenglancy8551 I agree with Carol and Nigel on most subjects for sure! However did not vote, and do not live in the South, so shows how much you know, and seriously WTF has that got to do with what i said to you?? nothing at all! Had nothing better to say, did you!! 🙄Take or leave GB News!

[@stephenglancy8551]

@@Sharon-zi1xn arguing a political point about who talks sense but doesn't vote. 🤣🤣🤣 How do you plan to affect change? Riots perhaps?🤔