Jim Cornette on Heel & Babyface Entrance Ways

From Episode 371 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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[@CharizardMaster69]

Can’t wait for Jim to go on a 2 hour rant about the exploding barbed wire death match and the afterbirth

[@justinsayswtf]

The ending of that match just extended Jim’s reaction video by 15 minutes probably lol

[@HollywoodHoganWCW]

I can't wait 🤣🤣 when's it coming?!

[@Hellwolf36]

@@HollywoodHoganWCW Tuesday

[@HollywoodHoganWCW]

@@Hellwolf36 nice, looking forward to it 🤣🤣

[@billrusso6422]

@@justinsayswtf I'm looking forward to that , Pizzeria Uno getting eliminated from the tag team battle royal , Pockets doing his schtick on Miro , Excrement , and the Japanese school girl who was singing and dancing on her way to the ring altho he prob didn't see that because of the tooth and nail rule

[@Bearwolf13]

AEW used all the pyrotechnics on Cody's entrances instead of on the Exploding Barbwire Death Match lol...

[@davidburke7777]

So glad even the AEW crowd are starting to boo that egomaniacs attempts at getting sympathy.

[@kashifreza1993]

Cody really is trying to be triple h He wants to steal all the spots

[@MrBlazemaster525]

@@kashifreza1993 lmao Triple C

[@JimmyBond85]

Ha

[@matthewsmith2308]

TNA used to have a tunnel on opposite side of the building, that was cool

[@Isabelthompson99]

I remember that with faces one way and heels the other it was really good

[@Jatshariff]

TNA > All Excrement ‘Wrestling’

[@jeffmac9642]

All I remember is the Beautiful people and the knockouts

[@darybraithwaite5066]

And for a while after that but before Hogan came they had two tunnels on the stage like AEW

[@citizenbeeswax7985]

How was tna from 2002-2010? I hear a lot of good things about it.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

The tubes dont mean anything when they're all buddies and dont hide it

[@baileyslife3469]

That’s the major thing AEW is lacking is the psychology Kayfabe brings to the product

[@slasherdope8065]

That Being The Elite KZbin show really shows that

[@mikeyvintageunboxing]

*"JIM...this next question comes to us...via email courtesy of....Charlie from Starkville Mississippi"*

[@TheJaviferrol]

Just judging from that logic, everyone on the AEW roster would be confused on what tube to use; not just Sammy

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

Dynamite should be two hours of wrestlers trying to figure out which tube to come out of.

[@smackdowngod]

I remember watching the segment where the Road Warriors damaged Dusty’s eye and seeing the Road Warriors leaving the interview and within seconds Dusty Rhodes comes out of the same locker room the Road Warriors came out of. I was thinking “wait, did Dusty just pass the Road Warriors? Why does he need to go to the interview and call the warriors out if you just past them?!?

[@MilMaska]

"I'm writing. Who are the heels and Who are the baby faces in this matches" - Jim Cornette

[@sgtraytango]

I did like it when TNA had their entrances on separate sides of the building.

[@dudex765]

Oh wow my question got a video!

[@robertm6590]

His "Invisible Wall" call out is something I have always wondered about. You stormed the ring to save your fallen comrade, you've chased the heels off. Now they're ten feet from you, what's stopping you from going after them?. Because they're outside the ring now?

[@Kingofthekop1]

pfffft The sound of AEW’s exploding ring

[@Hellwolf36]

The marks doing damage control was more explosive than that main event.

[@nh7680]

I feel bad for Eddie Kingston selling it like he was dead when he didn't realize the explosion was just sprinklers. Kingston and Moxley could have improvised and laughed at it.

[@theoelliott4649]

Wil E. Coyote set the bombs for the exploding ring match......

[@blacksabbathfan8067]

@King Slayer Yes but remember brother, Wcw and Tna (In their prime) were actually good to begin with

[@UziBlancoOfficial]

To many F's lmao didnt have that much uumph behind it lol

[@DrRonThomasJr]

The advent of the combined backstage area is what has led to all of the attacks and kidnappings. There you go, Jim, mystery solved.

[@tibbs3165]

When Steve Austin came out, you could tell he was ready to kick ass just by how he walked.

[@Kas58223]

Steve Austin was such a bad ass you know the glass shattering that whoever Austin was facing or an angle somebody was getting the damn Stunner

[@DespicablepunK25]

We've gone from the tough S.O.B that was "Stone Cold" Steve Austin to the cosplay "Stone Cold" Jon Moxley who is a balding plumber coming out the public toilets outside to make his entrance.

[@Mr.Classic91]

Steve Austin has 3 testicles

[@DespicablepunK25]

@@Mr.Classic91 What?

[@28kingofkings]

always loved the Ruthless Aggression Era stage sets, especially the SmackDown Fist and the way SmackDown stage was set up, it was simplistic and wasn't wholly distracting

[@DrRonThomasJr]

The night I made a heel turn back in 1990, my bag was still in the babyface dressing room so I had to send a referee around the back to get my bag! (and pretty much any gym or arena had home/visitors locker rooms ... sometimes boys/girls!)

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Tell me more about being a pro wrestler in the early 90s.

[@DrRonThomasJr]

@@Mister_Phafanapolis The business was still very closed. It was right at the end of the territory system (we were working in the remainder of the Southeastern/Continental area: North Florida- South Alabama). Record TV on Thursday nights, do shows Fri-Sat-Sun, train on Mon-Tues-Wed.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

@@DrRonThomasJr How did you break in to professional wrestling? Were you always a fan and interested or were you recruited because you were a collegiate athlete?

[@DrRonThomasJr]

@@Mister_Phafanapolis all of the above but I was working for the magazines as a writer/photographer in the 80s when Steve Keirn suggested I get into the ring myself

[@TalkNonsenseWrestling]

Paul Wight must get confused constantly when heading down to the ring or to the backstage area

[@HunterPhenomMakoy]

What do you mean you can’t tell who the baby faces and heels are? Didn’t you see which tube they came out of? 😂😂😂

[@donkiddick966]

Always loved the big/special stages (for ppv's only) as a kid watching wrestling. Smaller stage's were great for tv shows like raw and nitro, but a lot of my memories for the ppv shows, the stage plays a part as much as the main event.

[@lj342]

Now days alot of times its hard to tell who's a heel and who's not

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

I finally agree with Brian Last on something: I really miss when the buildings looked different. At the same time, most of the territories ran out of the same building 90% of the time. The Sportatorium became a legendary building because of it. Same for Irish McNeil's Boys Club

[@movementencouragedfitness5945]

This clip has some great insight.

[@jabroni7706]

Didn’t the impact zone have entrances on opposite sides of the arena?

[@TyMarshall007]

yes they did

[@herecomesdatrain]

@@TyMarshall007 it was unique and a gamechanger for a minute

[@relaxandgetoverit8393]

A game changer 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️😂😂😂

[@jabroni7706]

@@herecomesdatrain I don’t know about all that but it looked cool, made for nice run ins

[@TheGekko135]

Just patiently waiting for Jim to tap dance all over that exploding barbed wire match while Brian dies of laughter. They didn't get the stink fest they wanted from The shaq match. But the shockmaster level of wet fart finish to that ppv last night will have to suffice LOL

[@scottfleenor4409]

"I did it for da people, I did it for Da Rock."

[@TJDious]

Lol I'm 42, when we were kids my little brother would set up separate entrance ramps for our WWF figures to come out of because he saw it on some NWA show

[@chrisfraser3435]

Remember Tony Khan won booker of the year 🙄

[@jmmypaddy]

he has a better chance being winning Bookie of the year than booker

[@theoelliott4649]

Wonder how much Tony Kahn paid to get booker of the year or did Meltzer give him a combo pack to get Excalibur the announcer of the year award???

[@rm3869]

To be fair on paper that story was Money

[@jcaceres516]

So who.would you pick instead?

[@ldm1327]

@@jcaceres516 I'd go Court Bauer MLW had beenpretty solid since it's return Same for ROH in fairness AEW will always win the meltzer awards now because that's the cool thing to do, don't get me wrong WWE didn't deserve many but they were screwed on a couple, the smaller promotions are doing the best ATM.

[@Kas58223]

Jim Cornette telling good stories it wonder when a baby faces or heels turn what happens of what dressing room they get changed in then after and Jim Cornette explains that thank you sir always wondered that

[@BarelyDere]

Two years later and Jim is still saying it: "You know what they did, Brian? They fought off.

[@Epsilonsama]

Heel and Babyfaces always entered from a different location since forever. In NJPW they have Faces coming from one side of the building with Heels coming from the other. AEW, at least in kayfabe does have Heel and Babyface lockers plus each stable might have their own area backstage.

[@ThatB1ueSS]

No one watches new Japan

[@dvlry]

Terry Funk is now ALL ELITE.

[@theoelliott4649]

HOLY SHIT !!!!! I’M HARDCORE!!!!

[@dudex765]

Thank you for the informative answer jim

[@brianweddle7372]

4:10 - Maybe that is why there are so many damned backstage brawls on every fucking show

[@citizenbeeswax7985]

I remember as a kid i thought heels and faces MUST have different entrance ways. Otherwise, they would kill each other.

[@NickCorvello]

This reminds me of how stupid the entrances to the Casino Battle Royal used to be Logic would dictate if you have faces and heels in a particular suite (since AEW grouped the participants according to spades, clubs, hearts, or diamonds), that they would be fighting on their way to the ring. The first one or two of them was stupid because everyone just entered the ring first and fought. It was only with the women's Casino Battle Royal at All Out '19 that we saw face and heel women brawl upon the group entrances before getting in the ring

[@cm_carlito]

I remember going to wrestling shows in baseball stadiums and the faces/heels would use the home/visitor team dressing rooms and dugout to make their entrance.

[@Ted_Bell]

Meltzer gave the exploding match 6.2 stars ✨ ✨

[@Dewaynesite1]

Did he really?

[@adrianaspbury2970]

I can’t wait for Jim’s review

[@ldm1327]

I hope you're joking!

[@phillleo7571]

@Natural Born Master 😂😂

[@SpocksEvilKlone]

It may be blasphemy to type this on Cornette's KZbin page, but that's something I love about New Japan - when the company goes on tour, there are different arena's and the events don't all have that same look. It keeps things a little fresher.

[@symbiote1982pk]

Bold of the fella asking the question to imply that you need to be smart to notice 2 different tubes.

[@marlondaniels7912]

WWF used to shoot entrances from opposite sides of the aisle to make it look on TV like opponents were coming from different sides of the building. It was only when you saw the hard cam shots that you realised there was no entrance way on the other side of the ring.

[@eatpigsnot]

Philadelphia Spectrum when it was W(W)WF had separate entrances for heels and faces

[@steveremo4761]

Cornettes scoffs are more explosive than aews exploding death match.

[@Uhate2likeme]

Back in the day...(NWA times) here in Greenville,SC the heels and faces came from different ways to get to the ring.

[@dxgypsyful]

When WWE played my high school back in the day the faces were in the boys locket room and the heels were in the girls locker room on opposite sides of the gym.

[@j.styles8977]

Cmon Corny you know what we all are waiting for!!!!!

[@anthonyharris4234]

We gotta wait for the drive thru unless he does a KZbin bonus. 😔😔😔

[@timestampgod7338]

Tune in this Wednesday on TNT for AEW SPARKLER 🎇

[@constablekennedy7705]

This Obviously does not Apply to AEW as they do not Believe in the Heel and BabyFace Dynamic ... 💀

[@Kas58223]

It gets very confusing god help casual fans trying to understand that

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

All Inclusive Wrestling. Choose the pronouns, bathroom and entrance tunnel you prefer.

[@constablekennedy7705]

@@Kas58223 💯

[@constablekennedy7705]

@@Mister_Phafanapolis 😂

[@Kas58223]

@@constablekennedy7705 even I find it very confusing at times I’ve been watching wrestling since a kid, and catching up on the various promotions as I don’t like just watching one and getting annoyed with just the one I find AEW the most confusing promotion I ever watched and I’ve seen the dying days of WCW and ECW made better sense than AEW

[@mattabshier2494]

The upcoming Revolution review is going to be absolutely beautiful

[@benscott19841]

Never noticed this, shows how much I pay attention.

[@johnsos9]

Someone already mentioned it but TNA did several years ago. That’s the first thing that struck me when I seen AEW’s set. It looks like they just bought TNA’s set from 2008/2009 at a cheap price and there you go.

[@JoseMiranda-gj4pq]

So true, yet somehow despite AEW having a billionaire backer their tunnels/tubes somehow look worse than what TNA had.

[@realazduffman]

Sgt. Slaughter in a como limo. THAT was an entrance!

[@dwade6322]

That limo sat in the parking lot for months with flat tires at one point.

[@iLikeMyOwnPosts]

A literal face turn

[@tonymatrisin4328]

Tubes, Sparklers and Fingerbangs Oh My😱

[@marlonnicholson8410]

Won't nothing better than the 1999-2002 WWF RAW IS WAR TITANTRON stage especially the opening pyro and theme song

[@CoyoteDuran1]

*Dig the Ken Kesey reference for the Omax! Also what what the supposed locker room situation when Ric Flair and Nikita Koloff feuded when Koloff was still a heel?*

[@bitecakes3107]

Dallas Sportaturium had Face and Heels Entrances

[@derekshoup9579]

At my hometown arena The Knoxville Coliseum had 3 entranceways 1 for the babyfaces 1 for the heels and 1 to go back to the locker room

[@downwithputinsaveukraine1313]

Most people don't know this but NWA champ during prohibition Reggie Berlingbeener got super nervous before matches and always got diarrhea, so he literally came out of the bathroom most times.

[@RETRO_BELL]

I watch 20 hours of wrestling a week... But nothing from 2006 to present day.....

[@jetblack81]

Can't wait for jim to talk about the splosion

[@john_savage]

Can I just say, as someone who went to nearly every drivable show in every VFW hall and high school gym for years back in the 80s, those who claim it's always been the norm to root for heels is lying. I can tell you a bunch of my own tales of parking lot confrontations after I was caught rooting for the "satanic" bad guy, or for Masked Russian 2 against Sgt. Slaughter, Abdullah the Butcher vs anyone, and yes, even bringing my be-sparkled tennis racket sign reading "Jim Cornette for President." You see, I did ALWAYS root for the heels. I thought it was fun to step outside of my real life, where I always had to be the good guy, and live vicariously for a few hours through the evil characters in the ring. And most people just didn't get that then. So the heat that those heels generated was sometimes released on the smart marks like me.

[@mr.mirchenstein6549]

I'm absolutely DYING to hear Jim's comments about last night "explodding barbed wire death match" LMAO 😂😂

[@greenhulkknowledge8101]

Who else falls asleep listening to Cornette ? Actually I listen to him on my way to work just to LMAO !!

[@jimmyv3170]

The Big Show walks across the heel and face tubes weekly

[@MikeSmith-zo6eu]

TNA had this like 15 years ago haha, but opposite sides, not next to each other

[@baileyslife3469]

Poor mike thought he was a smart Fan 😂

[@ad206]

I remember thinking when I was a kid and Triple H was going through his reign of terror "why doesn't somebody beat his ass in the locker room? They all walk through the same area." Lol

[@SpiralPoliFemboy]

I was thinking the same? Can't Tommy Dreamer, Chris Benoit, Maven, Eugene and every other guy Hunter targeted just kick his ass? I mean, even if the rest of evolution came out it would still be a locker room vs four guys.

[@dudex765]

Reflecting on Jim’s answer I didn’t consider that if they’re gonna go so far to have separate locker rooms they’d make them come from different entrance ways Like one of them say it’s a television production with the stage and everyone has to hit they’re same exact pose in the same position the camera angles are the same all the time It just shows how much modern wrestling has changed the perspective of wrestling Jim can tell us that back then everyone thought it was real and there was real heat but you don’t know what it’s like unless you’ve been there I understand Jim even more now when he says wrestling today is different

[@sinicalypse]

Cold this winter? Try Jim Cornette's Fuckin Heat! Guaranteed to get you attacked by attacked by Grandma or your money back! Mom (matter of factly): "what kind of heat is that?" -- Kid (comfortable and honest): "that's some real fuckin heat, m0m!" -- Mom (perturbed) " *what* kind of heat is that?" -- Kid (eureka moment) "that's *Jim Cornette's* real fickin heat, mom!" -- Mom (relieved) -- "that's what I thought!" #AcceptNoSubstitues #UsePromoCodeJCEFor15PercentOff of Jim Cornette's Real Fuckin Heat!!!

[@patrickdaly5068]

What Corney talks about at about 8 minutes: not only were fans ironically put much farther away from the rasslers and the ring AFTER kayfabe died, but when they DIDN’T admit it was choreographed, wrestling got no coverage from the “main stream media”. Now they admit it’s choreographed, and CBS sports, ESPN, etc. cover it. It’s weird. Also, I’m surprised he didn’t mention how close fans were in the studio tapings with no barrier. It’s amazing watching those old clips now. One more point: even though kayfabe is dead, we’re in a different time. See the incident where the guy rushed and tackled Brett Hart at the HOF induction or whatever that was. That’s I’m sure another reason for the distance.

[@D00MTR33]

Face Tube? Is that the merger of Facebook and KZbin?

[@CeeMigoLoCo]

Ive noticed ever since they started using the tubes to come out for their entrances that one side was for heels and other for faces and sometimes they switch them up for some reason lol. Ive also noticed that one side of the entrance tubes are winners and the other is for losers... They don't have a very interesting set up lol. Seems cheap to me!

[@jasonknight8581]

I heard Kenny Olivier uses both tubes, if you know what I mean.

[@seemslegit2412]

Dusty Rhodes and his promotion came to my high-school in early 2000s. I cant remember a single entrance though. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Did talk to Dusty briefly though.

[@dwade6322]

High school?? In the 2000's ? How much money could Dusty have made from a high school when he was already a millionaire?

[@GMRay739]

I'm pretty sure the last time I watched TNA properly (which admittedly was probably 10+ years ago) they did the whole tubes thing? Or am I falsely remembering?

[@insupportofjunhado]

You know what's worse about not having separate entrances is having them but still having a "back stage" fight every week. If they're all in the same place anyway then constant fights outside of matches makes sense, unless you do like early ROH or EVOLVE where there are fines for such behavior. But when there are separate ways for the faces and heels them fighting all the time just becomes confusing. The camera men should be able to catch anyone moving from one side to the other. At least after it becomes a regular thing they should stop being caught off guard.

[@lopezcesar89]

new japan does it at korakuen hall. Faces come out from the left and the heels come out from the right

[@geocooley1976]

I remember as a kid seeing all wrestlers coming out the same entrance. Then they had a double count out brawl going back to the locker room. All I could think was how are they ever going to break this up?

[@lilstonerelf3472]

Should of had a brick hitting corny in the head in the art, the gardens always had two entrances

[@ralphjb]

I don't mind the tv pageantry stuff. Even boxers and UFC have entrances with music, pyro, and poses. It's the sizzle to the steak.

[@jbeast3875]

Kenny Bolin is accusing Jim cornette of sexual harassment WOW!

[@acalciodicanepodcast5846]

Hey Jim or whomever run the youtube channel. First of all, congrats for your podcast is highly entertaining. I would like to know what Jim tought about the Miz promo on Raw, i know that you don't follow the show, and i can't blame you... But i saw a clip of the promo and in my opinion was amazing(by today's standards) Bobby lashley(him too did a very good promo) is a legit Champion but i've always tought that mic skills should be good as the in-ring performance to draw tv public(and we're in a Covid-time) Thank you for your contents and keep it up the good work

[@jamesblack893]

if you want to ask him something type an email to him like everyone else

[@acalciodicanepodcast5846]

I wasn't aware of it. Thank you for the clarification

[@davidleewrath6919]

@@jamesblack893 Sometimes Last refers to youtube comments, it could work. Emails are a gamble, they can do a 3-hour show but only read 3 and play 1 or 2 songs.

[@bigern32480]

Wrestlemania would definitely have the indoor attendance record if they just have a normal entrance. Like Cornette said you would like to have that area for seats.

[@andrewbailey4657]

The era I came up in, everyone's costume was a gimmick or job, and they were good enough to get the point across. No everyone's costume looks like someone spent 20 grand on a cosplay costume for a character in another universe. They are very elaborately dressed as nothing we have any analog of

[@constablekennedy7705]

Tony Khan has Left the Chat 💬

[@-JAVY-]

Booker of the year 🙄

[@JamesSmith-uc8tk]

NWA house shows at Norfolk Scope in the 80s had two separate entrances. The entrances were on opposite sides of the arena. They kept this up through some of the televised WCW events there in the 90s until the Monday night wars. I still don't like the single entrance way for everybody, even though it's been done for over 20 years now.

[@Nervar]

Man I’m a dumb piece of shit and I could tell you the entrances differences it’s so damn obvious

[@specialk9424]

You can explain away having one entrance area/curtain/whatever, if you say "Heel comes out of the hell locker room first, goes through the curtain, and while he's going to the ring, getting heat, THEN the babyface comes through the building, and waits at Gorilla for his entrance." And if they should meet up in Gorilla, the booker/owner/whoever would tell them "Don't you start anything here. You start killing each other here, and you break any of this equipment, I'll fine you tonight's pay, and next week's, too." Or something like that. Tell them "You're paid to fight out there, in the ring, not back here." Give some believable reason why these two guys who hate each other would refrain from killing each other until they're in the ring.

[@adrianocollinzo5712]

Jim knows easter eggs are a thing lol.

[@nygreek743]

Where’s the video on his response to Christian!?!?

[@xavierwilliams2228]

Is the aew explosion botch up there with the shockmaster??

[@dwade6322]

No..but its close...

[@TheFailedmessiah]

The aew ppv was an overall C+ but that ending. Dropped it a full letter grade.

[@strongereveryday2302]

I hate the extraneous lighting. There is too much. Turn off everything but the ring lights. And get rid of the dumbass led board ring posts, and ring skirt. It's absolutely stupid

[@hairincurlers]

one ramp in old maple leaf gardens

[@aretnap3653]

"Down TheTubes"... *Literally*

[@TheCaffin8ed]

Is that how they kidnap people? They just hang out and wait for them to come back from the ring then snatch them up?

[@bigrigjoe5130]

Changing in a mop closet is not "more real" Watts was just fucking with Neidhart because he was leaving

[@doolysand6496]

I just watched the King Kong vs Godzilla trailer........ Godzilla turned heel again, so he always attacks from the left side of the screen🤷🏾‍♂️ watch it and see

[@mikegrimes2106]

Wocka Wocka Wocka

[@gabrielbelmont4741]

Waiting for their take on the rotten Exploding Barbwire Death CRAP-MY-PANTS-Match

[@kencoleman93]

The invisible wall finally explained. And it doesn't make sense.