Jim Cornette on Vince McMahon & The Ring Boys Lawsuit

[@lazarochavezbaizabal7989]

The fact that many people keep on ignoring Pat’s conducts seems fishy and shady on the long run.

[@dylancloud97]

It's probably because he didn't do anything and people yet to scapegoat him cuz he's gay

[@spiritsplice]

Yep, he is clearly neck deep in all of this, but everyone is protecting him.

[@jvharbin8337]

Jim: What were their parents doing? Me: Predators target kids who have absent parents. That is common knowledge now days.

[@SuperTwink99]

I see so many people associated with WWE (Jim included) like Bruce Prichard, Mick Foley, and the Rock make excuses for Pat Patterson because they liked him personally. F that. Pat was a predator. End of story.

[@ShatteredPedestal7]

Funny how Mick and Jim say what they say about a certain ex president. But when it comes to someone like Pat, they feign ignorance.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Were you there? Or are you also going off of accusations and here say?

[@tgfabthunderbird1]

With the name Supertwink, that says everything. Patterson was never charged. End of Story.

[@juansanchez209]

@@tobiasfarragut292Go watch Roddy Piper’s chilling interview about his encounter with Pat Patterson and try telling me that Patterson is innocent. Go listen to the other stories that many others have about Patterson and try telling me that Patterson is innocent I don’t think you’ll ever change your mind. It’s pretty much impossible for any hard/actual evidence to remain for any of these case if it existed at one point, so don’t hide behind the flimsy “I don’t see any evidence” excuse

[@JimStevens-z5m]

at the very least Pat covered up child sex abuse. That’s undisputed. Great wrestling mind, not a very great person

[@thejackeboy]

Cornette obviously forgets about Grizzly Smith riding around the Mid South territory with underage girls and no one saying anything.

[@sriramanjha9303]

They covered the DSOTR episode on Grizzly

[@IblewuponyourfaceIII]

Jim knows & ignores, he is a Wrestling nerd & insider. He knows a lot of stuff behind the scenes but he is a coward like everyone else. He talks shit about everybody & everything but not this.

[@lodi70005]

Cornette has covered Grizzly Smith several times, on several different shows. Grizzly didn’t have a ring crew of kids, in which he took from town to town. Grizzly was much more subtle, and was pretty much replaced by Dundee shortly after Cornette arrived.

[@mightilyoats2729]

Part of Grizzly being able to do that was his political power from it. Local state and law officials were also having sex with those young girls, and giving Grizzly carte blanche. If any of them ever stood up to him, he'd take them down with him.

[@televiper11]

“Traveling with them to different states” - this could’ve been a RICO case if the Feds had pursued it back then.

[@kenrickkahn]

WWF really broke the "Man Law" if all of this is true..

[@stonewall304]

When you purchase a company or merge with one, you get the assets AND liabilities. So future lawsuits come with the purchase.

[@juicyfruit6311]

Not always. I personally was involved in a case like this. My company was bought out by a Mr. Big Company. There were ray-siss claims made against the little fish company. I saw it and said it during depo. The case was filed recently but the incidents were in the 90's. Case was dismissed because it was filed past allowed time.

[@stonewall304]

@@juicyfruit6311 yes, you may be prevented from a successful suite due to time (statute of limitations) but not because you bought the company and weren't there when it happened.

[@TheRealEclipse1]

@@juicyfruit6311 That's quite different from this case.

[@anthonymacgregor9790]

@@juicyfruit6311 if that suit was not avoided by the statute of limitations the company that owns yours would of been dealing with a headache if a lawsuit

[@chrishouk5796]

@juicyfruit6311 There's a very big difference between racism and sexual assault+ molestation. There's people involved due to being employed through TKO that know all about the skeletons in the closet. There's no statute of limitations for rape/sexual assault.

[@televiper11]

Pat Patterson has been credibly accused of sexual assault by multiple people. But he was protected by Vince and many wrestlers excuse it cuz Pat was a good booker.

[@gregweisal5542]

I thought multiple ppl who were there said pat did nothing.

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

​@@gregweisal5542People just make excuses for him obviously being a creep because he made them more money. You'll find some people will let kids get violated if it means they get more money.

[@gregweisal5542]

@@NIITR0NIICEA well Jim cornette said pat did nothing wrong. He did a whole video on it. I'll believe Jim over ppl who weren't even alive when it happened.

[@kenrickkahn]

​@@gregweisal5542 I should believe Brickhouse Brown cause he says different..

[@larsnootbaarfann]

@@gregweisal5542grow up

[@adventuresinmodelrailroading]

Back when I was in high school, one of my courses covered the legal system. I seem to recall that the instructor said sue everyone remotely involved and let the court figure out who's responsible because you can't go after a new defendant with that case once its been settled.

[@DIESEL0759]

Pretty much.

[@Ken-uo7iw]

When a business is purchased, the buyer gets among other things its debts & legal history.

[@toddkurzbard]

I had the same situation in my paralegal classes. The courses were taught by practicing attorneys, and, in one course, we were assigned a final paper to write involving a fictional auto accident, where one of the drivers was driving a friend's car. The question we had to answer was, "who do you sue?". EVERYBODY got the answer wrong. So, our attorney-professor revealed the correct answer: "sue everybody. Sue the drivers. Sue the owner of the car that the dude was driving. Sue the manufacturer of the cars. Sue the people who built the roads they were on. Sue the insurance companies...even if a suit, or suits, are dismissed, you've at least covered all your bases, and ONE at least has to get through the process".

[@alfiewillis4893]

"They only went after Pat Pattersom because he was gay" is the most cynical crap imaginable.

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

It's a very leftist take. People don't accuse others of actual wrongdoing, they're apparently just out to harm and discredit minorities.

[@ButWhatIfItIs]

It really is NOT cynical. It used to be the left but now EVERYONE is out there playing identity politics. I don't feel comfortable even making any kind of reference to my orientation or complimenting a male wrestler's appearance without the same men talking about sucking farts out Tiffany Stratton's butt, or the constant need to post "god bless 🙏🏻" on everything then losing their minds screeching "WHY DO YOU NEED TO SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROATS?!!?" Or being called names. I am not surprised the cult has very few female listeners, and I ain't feeling much more welcome here either. Now, moving away from that, I kind of agree with what you are saying. Idk how protected Pat is. Idk of he is a predator. I think he is likely as much of a pervert as his contemporaries were. And as someone who was subject to what most people would consider a lot more horrific than what is being discussed here, I always have a default in supporting the accusers. I also believe in due process and not conducting my own trial based on witch hunts. Is that *so* wrong? But to say it isn't exaggerated because he is one of those filthy F words like me? Sorry, but that is where we diverge. I think people are VERY comfortable to clutch their pearls when it suits them.

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

I hate that cause he clearly was one

[@ZombiePicnic]

Jim shows his hypocrisy often with his favorites. He overlooks bad behavior with people who treated him well like Rick Flair who has done some disgusting things. I'm sure it's the same with Pat who has allegedly done much worse things.

[@Rjensen2]

That's what Graham said.

[@positively_broad_st3780]

The lawsuit was filed in Maryland because of their new law that doesn't limit the time in which you can sue your abuser if you were a victim of SA...

[@spiritsplice]

Which is absurd legally. That's like making something illegal and then prosecuting people from before it was illegal.

[@terryeubanks8797]

@@spiritsplice What a terrible argument. Sexual abuse was not legal in the early 80s, and it's not now. If Vince and Linda, the billionaire carnies, knowingly allowed some creep who hung around the place to abuse children, they should be held accountable today for what happened.

[@bumpingseagull9392]

The issue with Jim, is that he has such a hard time accepting Pat Patterson was a predator. *edit - It’s not just Jim I forgot to mention, it’s pretty much everybody who worked with Pat

[@allensmith4863]

It's almost he knew him, worked with him and was there during these accusations whereas you weren't. But obviously you know better

[@TrueRomance1993]

There are so many wrestling shoots where people talk about Patterns predatory type behavior with the wrestlers. It’s not hard to believe at all, if minors were involved. Regardless or not, the guy appears to be a major creep.

[@televiper11]

@@allensmith4863Cornette did not work there then. Patterson has been credibly accused of sexual assault by several people, including former ringboy Tom Cole, and several wrestlers, including Sid, Piper, Paul Roma, Jim Powers, etc.

[@deepblue8143]

​@@allensmith4863exactly!!

[@allensmith4863]

@@televiper11 corny worked there long enough and knew enough people that worked there for years to know what's happening and what wasn't. I'll take that opinion over people in a comment section

[@jimbomba4365]

I remember Bret Hart saying in his book that Mel Phillips made a pass at him. I think he said they shared a hotel room on the road one time, and Bret woke up to Mel sucking on his toes. Bret told him to stop, he did, and Bret did a chalkboard drawing on the incident in the locker room at the next show.

[@mr.x9566]

I'm sure Greg Valentine said he was sharing a room with Mel Philips and he walked into the room and saw Philips suddenly pull the covers up to his chest thought there was movement (not Philips) under the cover.

[@ContaCamaleon-bn6vy]

Jesus....woe

[@therealityofitall4819]

Bret knew he liked it.. Made his eyes roll back..

[@SSS1984MMM]

Wasn't it Jaques Rougeau that Mel did that to? If I remember correctly he told the boys & Bret made a funny cartoon about it.

[@mangrove]

Not Bret, but one of the referees. The ref was telling about the incident to some of the boys, including Bret,

[@silenttoxic707]

Listening to Jim genuinely laugh at a guy he knew abusing people is bizarre when he sits on his moral mole hill over politics

[@KONSACZ]

Nothing new for extremist American. Puting yourself on moral pedestal is like basic thing for them

[@GregHuffman1987]

everyone has their blind spots. Its because its people they know and they have sympathies for, but if it was someone else making those claims, he would tell them how stupid they are.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

Jim is a piece of shit in all honestly - great knowledge, but his opinions and bad takes outside of wrestling are cancer

[@RandallJohnson-d7o]

Agreed. Sometimes I just gotta click Jim off and not listen for a while. I mean,he's not Bruce Prichard who I find to be intolerable, but in wrestling so many seem willing to overlook most anything if guys are helping them make money.

[@GregHuffman1987]

@@RandallJohnson-d7o i totally agree with you about bruce. you know a guy has to be horrible to be around when just listening to him irks you. You can smell the underside of the boot from the screen

[@matthewhostetter8974]

This special place in Hell for Vince continues to get bigger and now they have to make room for Linda.

[@tommycolton4971]

His spot was insured when he did it were just now getting details

[@MarvinT0606]

It's the reason why Vince and Linda never divorced. This mess would have spilled-out years ago if Linda and Vince had a free hand to testify against each other

[@deepblue8143]

For what? People like you are so gullible.

[@matthewhostetter8974]

@@deepblue8143 People like you are ignorant and borderline retarded.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

@@deepblue8143 Abusing under-age children not good enough reason? Or are you into that kind of thing...

[@hgriff14]

11:00 jim you knew pat patterson. stop pretending you dont know why he picked boys to work for him. jim being dishonest on purpose is the worst thing about him. and tko is being sued because when they bought the wwe they bought wwe’s history. maybe brian should quit pretending to know things, too.

[@FresnoCA93727]

TKO didn’t exist when the ring boys stuff happened.

[@hiei6335]

​@FresnoCA93727 they didn't but since they brought wwe , all their past and future problems become theirs. It's part of business

[@Rjensen2]

@@hgriff14 why isn't Pat's name used in this lawsuit? Do you have any clue about it whatsoever? It doesn't sound like you do.

[@redred1952]

Vilify Vince, make excuses for Pat. Make it make sense

[@Rjensen2]

@redred1952 Because Pat was innocent. Even Graham said that.

[@spookerredmenace3950]

Dark side of the ring ep of the Ring boy sex scandal would be wild!

[@romanmartinez6458]

Don't you know that's right. It would be a multi episode thing and probably already working on research right now.

[@mayo-g3n]

Now that they are partners with the rock and wwe I doubt they would make something like that anymore ! They haven't gone hard on the wwe since 2021 !

[@spookerredmenace3950]

@@mayo-g3n ya true

[@televiper11]

Corny soft pedaling Monsoon too. He made jokes on-air not just about Garvin but also about Patterson & Phillips. He knew and found it funny. And he soft-pedals Christine Jarrett too. Jerry Lawler’s proclivities were an open secret.

[@kenrickkahn]

I got a feeling this rabbit hole is deeper than we think..

[@AnEternalEnigma]

FYI, they didn't "wait" to file the lawsuit. Maryland recently removed the statute of limitations on these types of lawsuits. I do believe the law also previously stated that you could not sue for child sex abuse after you turned 38 years old. Once it was removed, the lawsuit was filed in Maryland immediately. This is mostly being done because of all the horrid child sex abuse by religious entities that is continuing to be uncovered.

[@stonewall304]

Attorney who filed the case explains all the legal issues that confounded Jim and Brian! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6jXmqB_p9eWhMk

[@hughmongous5089]

Hell of a win for maryland

[@chuckles9767]

Religion + medical + teachers have roughly the same rate of offense. Isn't it wierd how only one (religion) gets mentioned. Moreover those 3 are insignificant compared to family, which is sad.

[@kingkold]

Agreed with religious folks probably taking top bill in all these situations ​@chuckles9767

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

​@@chuckles9767Epstein's island was full of many of all of the above

[@gregwalker500]

When it rains it pours.

[@DCeasedbrickbuilds]

R. Kelly liked this comment…

[@kenrickkahn]

​@@DCeasedbrickbuilds Donald Trump liked it too..

[@devicebackup664]

P Diddy liked it too

[@DCeasedbrickbuilds]

@@devicebackup664 Brock Lesnar too.

[@coyotebillkc9185]

This video was in my KZbin recommendations. A few clicks over was a recommended video of Terry Funk beating the crap out of Mel Phillips and ironically Rita Chatterton was in the ring while it was happening. I really got to hand it to the KZbin bots on this one.

[@bradleygermain6288]

@@coyotebillkc9185 That was recommended to me before this dropped today. Talk about predictive.

[@Trendleader863]

Terry Funk was a real man

[@franklinsavage4593]

Terry really beat the brakes off of him too. He had to have known.

[@DIESEL0759]

@@franklinsavage4593 You DO know that was a work, right?

[@DIESEL0759]

The whole Funk/Mel clip was too funny...people think it was real when it was so obvious it was a work!

[@Tikthra]

"Would let Lawler know" really has a different connotation when it comes to underage children than Jim wants to believe.

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

Jim loves Lawler. Mentions him at least every week or two. Since he booked popular southern wrestling Lawler can do no wrong.

[@tapset]

Mr Burlington coat factory

[@juansanchez209]

The Cream Team (Patterson, Garvin, and Phillips) and what they did to all of those poor boys is genuinely such a disgusting black (or should I say white?) stain on WWE’s legacy. Genuinely sickening the way it’s swept under the rug and it’s especially egregious the way Patterson is still celebrated by the industry

[@timtimly6085]

It is absolutely disgusting!! Who was garvin?

[@juansanchez209]

@@timtimly6085Terry Garvin

[@SchnitzelCFC]

The Cream Team 💀

[@jkranites]

You do know that most of the incidences happened in 1981 and prior before Vince even owned the company and Pat working there. Not to mention they’re actual witness’s who will call BS

[@spudsucker9489]

​@juansanchez209 oh thank God I thought you ment rubbish Ronnie garvin

[@RecencyBiasRadio]

This Pat Patterson scandal eerily reminds me of the Penn State Sandusky stuff 🤢

[@kenrickkahn]

Or the Jim Jordan Ohio School scandal.. Jim Jordan didn't touch anyone, he knew about it and turned a blind eye to it..

[@HyperActive7]

Pat Patterson, Terry Garvin, Mel Philips, you name it used their position of power to take advantage of young boys and were able to worm out of it much like Bill Cosby because what little kid doesn't want to see the matches for free and what little kid doesn't want to be in the same building as the wrestlers they follow? It's sickening to think all these people are dead except Vince who in himself is weird with women.

[@dngn4774]

I always found it weird the way the scandal was covered when I was younger. The only defense I’d see wwf give is “well, Pat did nothing wrong.” Best case scenario, 2 of the three men were undisputed pedophiles that were allowed to work on events that provided them access to children. That’s the BEST case scenario! It’s just super weird how quickly this was all dismissed years ago.

[@thedarknightreturns1994]

I cant wait for the truth about pat Patterson to come out.

[@gregweisal5542]

I thought multiple ppl who were there said pat did nothing

[@MotherHen2012]

It never will. He's dead and unless someone has hard evidence....

[@thedarknightreturns1994]

@@gregweisal5542 you mean all his friends?

[@thedarknightreturns1994]

@@MotherHen2012 the fact that he was 🏳️‍🌈 should be enough evidence.

[@ButWhatIfItIs]

No truth will come out. What "truths" can actually be established beyond what we believe? I personally believe he either is an abuser or facilitated it. What new evidence (evidence, not hearsay) will come out? I know ehat happrned to me when I was a teenager. Where's my evidence? I have nothing. And a lot of powerful people are perverts. Go figure. People like you would be burning witches at the stake if you were told it wasn't wrong. Idc if we share the same sentiment. Try being responsible and using your brains before you vomit this stuff out on the internet.

[@JAKJacobs]

Vince also had grizzly Smith working in the office in the early 90s. He knew

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

Looking at Vince being friendly with Trump & P Diddy everything adds up.

[@kenrickkahn]

​@@NIITR0NIICEA He is real close to both of them.. These are facts.

[@Bandana_Boi]

Grizz was there in the 80s with Jake at some point I believe as well.

[@moffjerjerrod1579]

@@Bandana_Boi Jake? If you mean Jake Roberts (not sure if you do or not or if you meant to type Jake there) Grizzly Smith is Jake Roberts' biological father.

[@Rjensen2]

@@JAKJacobs You are lying.

[@shanr0k]

Jim knows everything about the wrestling business except this? How convenient. Now he's full of "who, what, when and how's". He literally said in a past podcast how there's nothing wrong with grabbing a guys "Johnson" as a joke. I know that's not the same exact thing. But c'mon Jim.

[@vibezforall99]

Jim’s pathetic selective ignorance towards pat patterson predatory acts is insane😂 he knows sooo much and will never out pat in his place. stubborn boomer energy, protecting his era.

[@rccomics]

Jim will NEVER call out Vince. It’s like VKM has something over him.

[@hiddensword9387]

Jim is probably implicated lol

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

I think there is a hot tub with Jimbo's name on it, and a line of wrestlers that remember what Jim used to do with it.

[@KomradeKrusher]

He did so multiple times when it was a segment on the lawsuit or the recent documentary, so I don't really know how you'd come to this conclusion.

[@allenbrown9069]

@@TheCaptainSlappy no

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

@@allenbrown9069 Yes.

[@ulvetid.01]

This is the same guy malding at trump for similar allegations 😂

[@therealityofitall4819]

Your boy 45 is a pre_ dator .. He is on tape multiple times confessing he is one!

[@therealityofitall4819]

Your boy is a Prettidator .. He is on tape multiple times confessing he is one!

[@fmdof]

You down know 2 things can be right at the same time.

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

​@@therealityofitall4819for 8 years America ran by a predator as president Trump & Biden 💀

[@VitZ9]

​@therealityofitall4819 Imagine thinking being a pdf.file is ok as long as you don't support Trump. Touch grass kid.

[@craighaley1658]

Nord VPN is an interesting choice in ad following conversations about child exploitation and cover-ups.

[@Bandana_Boi]

I'm noticing some... Discrepancies shall we say. The problem with releasing so many hours of audio is people can go back and find out most of what Jim's saying here isn't true.

[@shagmeimbj]

TKO is the parent company...to sue WWE you sue TKO. Its not rocket science guys

[@VitZ9]

Using the internet without Express VPN is a lot like setting up a ring for Pat Patterson, right Jim? 😆

[@Bandana_Boi]

Oh boy. 9 minutes in and I'm already noticing some things. Jim's talked about Ring Boys before, using the exact term ring boys. You can find the videos here on KZbin. Cornette says he's never heard of a promotion using kids to set up a ring then proceeds to tell the story of how Bobby Eaton broke in the business by setting up the ring as a teenager... What are we doin' boys? "That wasn't unusual." - Jim Cornette, in regards to underage kids setting the ring up.

[@gripstrength]

Isn't it clear that Mel Phillips had some kind of blackmail over someone? Why what's works they bring him back. Come on

[@KakashiInWinter]

"Another arm of the same medusa..." Well, close enough. :D

[@stingrey1571]

I’m more convinced than ever before, pat patterson was involved in some kind of inappropriate behavior. Since he was invaluable to Vince, everyone covered for him.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Everyone from that era of the company said that Pat would rub butts and crotches etc. and then play it off as a joke. Evidently Pat told some of the wrestlers that if he knew a guy was being demoted or fired, he would "jokingly" proposition them by saying that in order to get more opportunities, they would have do sexual favors for Pat. They typically would reject his advances but Pat wouldn't necessarily tell them it was a joke... It sounds like Pat was a creep who played it off as being a joke and being "in character", which BTW, Ron Jeremy and Ric Flair also have done.

[@guy_badly]

9:30 well Jim, what would be the reason? Its not hard if you think about it

[@brandoncoit9295]

My only argument is why would a giant middle aged man (grizzly smith) go out of his way to pick up young teen girls to go on the road with him, that doesn't seem weird?

[@skristianf]

Not if he showed his gratitude to the parents to get the blessing. 💰

[@hiddensword9387]

Apparently Jakes mother was only 13 years older than Jake...

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

​@@hiddensword9387yeah his dad was a predator too he talked about it a lot

[@kenrickkahn]

​@@skristianf The same thing with R. Kelly.. The parents seen dollar signs and pushed their young teenage daughters towards him.. These parents are getting off the hook for all of this crap..

[@samspurgeon4222]

Wasn't Jake's mother also Grizzly's stepdaughter too? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading that somewhere....

[@briantologist7629]

I guess if Pat Patterson had ever gone on Vince Russo's podcast , THEN he'd be a predator and a bad guy.

[@vanderful2397]

Or endorsed Trump

[@aadilharoon1807]

This is just absolutely unforgivable smh.

[@ainaalba-h1p]

Yea this and underage girls at the shows during the 80s and what’s crazy is Jim will see nun wrong with it. If anything he’s told stories in this podcast laughing how guys like Lawler went for 13 year olds but hey Jim’s friend ig

[@MilMaska]

"If it wasn't for me Vince. The word Ahole would have had a whole other meaning in Prison" - Hulk Hogan

[@jimmymetal713]

The last 3 years of wrestling drama has gave dark side of the ring a new season .

[@henrygvidonas9573]

Seems like Jim is completely confounded by the concept of legal succession. That's why TKO is among the defendants. Whatever skeletons WWF/WWE as a business entity had in the closet, they're TKO's skeletons now, because "WWE" is now basically a brand of the company that World Wrestling Entertainment, LLC and the company that owned and operated the UFC - Zuffa, LLC (owned by Endeavor Group Holdings, Inc.) - merged into. If Endeavor as a 51% owner of TKO since 2023 has a problem with that, they need to sue Scatman Lupton as the person who owned the controlling share of World Wrestling Entertainment when the deal was signed. Caveat emptor. They should have done more thorough research and preparation before they bought - it's not like the ring boys story is previously unknown information. Vince already had to finally pay his victim Rita Chatterton to get his deal with Endeavor. They knew that Vince is a rapist and sadistic pervert. They knew that Vince made no distinction between himself as a private person and Titan Sports/WWF/WWE as a business entity, for decades. He always treated WWE's finances and business affairs as if they were his own private ones. What on Earth made Ari Emanuel's lawyers think that the Adult Surivivors Act and similar laws in other states couldn't bring other dark parts from WWE's history back to the surface? The company and the person who ran/owned it, systematically treated people like crap for decades, in various ways. One of the purposes of the ASA is that scumbags like Vince, who thought they got away with what they did and enabled, because they were protected by a statute of limitations, can now be held accountable with civil lawsuits from their victims. Good!

[@texasblue245]

Jim will die on that Pro-Vince hill he’s on. Smh

[@joseroselli1034]

Can't wait for the news of Vince's Diddy party's to come out 😂😂😂😂

[@brokencigarette3017]

they are definitely birds of a feather, those two.

[@alphatoddio]

get the baby oil ready 😅

[@mr.x9566]

Steroids, Scat and Shoulder Shrugs

[@chuckles9767]

Imagine how much baby oil bottles vince had in the day

[@robertnapier624]

@@chuckles9767 “lubricants, pal!”

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of WWE, where the shadows lie.

[@ulvetid.01]

Where the nonces hide**

[@mattst.germain4023]

Nice

[@andrewgraham6339]

Hey! This is the guy that “took on the government and won” in regard to the steroids charges. TKO knew what they were buying. It’s like marrying a hooker. You expect trouble.

[@basicbeefanomicsYT]

Iono man I feel like when you have Roddie Piper saying he was sexually abused by Pat Patterson, it's probably not so far fetched to say he was doing it to other people too

[@kenrickkahn]

Brickhouse Brown..

[@kenrickkahn]

Brickhouse Brown

[@TheRealEclipse1]

TKO owns WWE and would have known about the case and the possibility of it coming back up. When you buy a company, you inherit all of their assets, all of their debts, and all of their legal problems from past and future.

[@mattst.germain4023]

Nah you don’t. There are a million ways to work around those types of things through contract agreements, NDA’s, not to mention the statute of limitations. Nothing will ever come of the ring boys scandal.. it was 40 yrs ago and the people in question are dead.

[@futurewhizter1538]

2:19 "Fuck you I'm suing you!" LMAO

[@sativaburns6705]

I worked for a stage and lighting company in the 90s called Concert Concepts. While there we set up stages for fairs, festivals and concert halls, all very public. They had an old wwf ring in storage. I was only 14, I didnt have any issues, but I dont find it hard to believe there were kids setting up rings at some point.

[@Robokingmen]

Well both Paul Heyman and Jim Cornette were young teens taking pictures so no one's saying kids weren't around the arenas working taking tickets, selling soft drinks and food ... There's plenty of people who started by doing that

[@jonathancarlson6127]

Pat Paterson, Grizzly Smith, quite a few others. But this Mafia-esque code of silence because X was “one of the boys” and Mel Phillips wasn’t, is laughable. To Hell with the lot of them.

[@mrvayne01]

I guess Mr New, Esq. didn't contribute to this episode. They do lawsuits this way. Name everyone in the suit who tangentially might have any association. The technical term is "covering the bases."

[@chwenhoou]

Vince's Lawyer: Your honor... I don't want to be near this pile of s**t. I'll tell you what. You can yell at him for however long you want and send him to jail. I'll take the L on this case, go home, and rethink my life.

[@chuckles9767]

Problem with your story is applying morality to a lawyer

[@Halbared]

“Vince screwed Vince. And a fcuktonne of others yer honour!”

[@lsj6721]

@@chuckles9767 I guess that you really have no idea how lawyering works.

[@riicktann]

20 mins in and im starting to wonder why i havent heard the name pat patterson yet

[@mariogallego5513]

Some people are freakin sick man SMH

[@misterknightowlandco]

When you buy a company you buy the liabilities too.

[@MattFrost-e4u]

Mel Phillips was always at the Boston garden in the 80s. He would bring ring jackets back to locker room. I may be remembering wrong but didn’t Terry Funk have some angle with him on tv? I think Phillips put on his cowboy hat to bring to the back, and Funk took exception and pulled him over the ropes and kicked his ass?

[@deepblue8143]

They should have sued 40 years ago if true. This is nothing more than a cash grab, what a joke.

[@JannnyLogg-j7u]

Come on Jim the called em the cream team

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

Also, there's plenty of stories of territory guys engaged in questionable to predatory behavior from Jerry Lawler to Grizzly Smith. There's also many stories about Jim Barnett being a creep and a predator. So its not a WWF thing. This particular story is.

[@chrismorale_]

God is smiling down on Jerry Lawler. Was he that good of a boss or wrestler to have folks not even mention his name when any of these things come up? He blamed a kid for being fast for giving him the go ahead to have his way with her. Adults saying it about each other is one thing but goddamn. The level that makes it deeper was it was a black teen and he used that specifically against her. Look up the article

[@teecakes]

What town did this happen and year the girl's name won't be searchable

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

There it is, she was a black teen in the old days so probably was covered by his people

[@drg5352]

@@teecakes Louisville, KY, in 1993. Case was settled in 1994, with the two girls refusing to testify, and Lawler copping a plea bargain for intimidation of a witness. Search Jerry Lawler sex with a minor allegations, the 1993 case will be the first several links.

[@danielwwe223]

I believe Jim, I also believe that these PDFiles are so smooth unfortunately it can be done in plain sight

[@bpatrickl3844]

Vince should go work at Nickelodeon

[@jblack9371]

I remember Terry Funk beating up a ring attendant for wearing his hat on main event. I wonder if he knew about the guy a roughed him up for it while keeping kayfabe. Knowing about Terry Funk and seeing him pull that guy around, looked legit

[@mr.x9566]

Mel Philips

[@chrishouk5796]

They're going after TKO due to Janel Grant's lawsuit. They own any NDA'S. Everything is coming out.

[@bradleygermain6288]

What if Linda was to Vince like Oprah was to Harvey Weinstein? Remember when Jim and Bruce would go on about how much of a dignified southern lady she was? LoL Yeah...

[@trevorhembrough1290]

I have a friend who ran an arena that WWF ran shows in during the ‘80s. He insists Linda’s every iota the miserable POS that Vince is. The genteel southern belle shtick is a work.

[@bradleygermain6288]

@trevorhembrough1290 Thats what I thought. Its not like she would've never heard any of Vince's promos during the Attitude Era. There really isn't anything more suggestive than those.

[@chuckles9767]

Oprah liked them diddy parties

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

They definitely are it's obvious lol she doesn't disown him or nothing just silence

[@kenrickkahn]

Oparh doesn't do Diddy.. That's fake news.. However Oparh and Harvey is the real thing..​@@chuckles9767

[@hiddenswan857]

As a mother idk how his daughter enabled him.

[@gavinduenas3584]

It's weird that Jim seems confused about TKO being sued. I'm no lawyer, but I do know that the early 90s scandals are documented in a number of places and it would be amateurish of TKO to purchase WWE without knowing about them. So in my eyes TKO bought the company knowing these things had happened, therefore it assumes some legal responsibility for potential ramifications. If Jim bought the bakery he refers to, knowing that there were credible allegations of children being sexually assaulted by some of its employees over a sustained period of time, and the bakery owner had never taken any responsibility for those sexual assaults in a court of law, presumably Stephen P New would advise Jim that, as the new owner of the bakery, he was potentially making himself liable for any compensation claims by the victims?

[@KomradeKrusher]

There's a couple of things about Patterson allegedly being involved in the ring boy scandal that never added up: - Look at the guys who made allegations against Patterson: musclebound roid freaks like Brickhouse Brown, Tony Atlas, Jim Powers... and we are expected to believe that, at the same time, he also liked teenage boys? - Take another look at the guys who made allegations: None of them ever amounted to anything afterwards. Only one of them (Paul Roma) managed to make a name for himself on a national level through WHATEVER means in WCW. The rest? Angry failures with a chip on their shoulders claiming that Patterson ruined their careers, when they never made much of a career anywhere else, either. - The worst allegations by one of the boys against Petterson was a pat on the butt and "looking leeringly". The allegations against Philips and Garvin were much more detailed, substantial and explicit. All three were investigated, the charges against Patterson were dropped. Now, there is one thing I will concede, but it has nothing to do with the ring boys scandal: Paul Roma to me has some merit or at least credibility. He did manage to get a foot in the door at another major promotion after leaving WWF (where he already been given several opportunities, mind you). And going by rare pictures of Patterson's husband, Roma was a similar "type". So that's something that cannot be dismissed as easily as other claims. But again, this can't and mustn't be conflated with the ring boys scandal.

[@terryeubanks8797]

I believe the reasoning for including TKO in the lawsuit (besides the long shot of getting a settlement from them) is they may be forced to perform an internal investigation into the allegations. In the event that they have any findings (40-45 years after it happened), it could possibly be used as more ammunition in their lawsuit against Vince.

[@wrestlingwiththedevil]

The McMahons always knew about Phillips, what you Need to do Jim Cornette is actually spend some time and read the full lawsuit. You are doing a show about a lawsuit, and you are reading it out of the post. Sharpen up guys.

[@benjaminclark4030]

I'm from Evansville and helping to set up the wrestling ring at the coliseum was/is a once a week option for performing court ordered community service. Yes, I know from experience. Lol

[@dougmeyers]

Mel Philips may have been a creep but he was a hell of a ring announcer. He was the second most recognizable voice of the 80s as far as ring announcers.

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

Almost ten minutes of this video being an ad read. As usual. Sigh.

[@mkultra5752]

6 years ago Jim shits on wwe constantly and says how horrible they are..now he subtly defends them 🤷‍♂️

[@stevenmillan9220]

Mel Phillips: the Dan Schneider of professional wrestling.

[@tgfabthunderbird1]

I love how people are going after Jim and Mick about this. They were not there, period. The story surrounded this guy Phillips and Garvin. The media added Patterson because everyone knew he was gay, Vinces's #2, so let's get them and hang the consequences. I wasn't there either. Did Vince know? Yes--that man knew everything and if he didn't see it, he would be told.

[@robertnapier624]

And Davey Boy wasn’t even there either. It was Owen!

[@natelandherr5202]

Patterson isn't only added because he's gay, he's added because he also engaged in creepy inappropriate behavior. I don't think Patterson was involved in the ring boys but he doesn't come out clean

[@televiper11]

@@natelandherr5202Tom Cole’s first lawsuit named Patterson directly, stating that Patterson groped Cole.

[@natelandherr5202]

@@televiper11 I wish it had come out as it was happening tbh

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

I hate when people use him being gay as a defence I'm gay I ain't touching little Timmy 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@protv790]

They Rehired Him Probably because He Was their pimp/dealer. He probably gave others in the business access to his "inventory". This is all speculation tho. The Wrestling business is very dark and dirty. Too many people will closed their mind to it. I'm glad this is all coming out.

[@anthonymacgregor9790]

TKO is getting this shit since now they own WWE they inherited all its legal headaches.

[@TheReal_DeanD]

Maybe the ring boys waited until Vince’s superstar lawyer Jerry retired so they can try to get justice against Vince.

[@SirVic42]

The McMahons should hire Stephen P. New as their lead counsel.

[@robertnapier624]

I’m not sure Stephen will want any part of it.

[@SkipMDMan]

Also perhaps the reason they hired him back was because Mel would give an occasional kid to Vince or Linda. They hired him back to keep him quiet.

[@dr.roberts4508]

For everyone saying Pat not charged. Neither was O J.

[@albertperez3286]

Jim Cornette needs to give more metaphors about VPNs 😆

[@tysontomko]

Vintage McMahon artwork, memoriesssss

[@KevinWM2]

Kristine Jarrett didn't do anything about Lawler and his penchant for young girls. Watts didn't do anything about Grizzly, etc. These things were usually tolerated, let's face it.

[@dustyhaynes5688]

We're starting to figure out that Vince and several of his associates didn't turn down anything but the bed covers.

[@alangreenway6695]

Same thing is happening here in the UK with Al Fayed and Harrods. He sold the company and died, but women are coming out accusing him of abusing them and Harrod’s being liable.

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

For some reason if you own someone else's business and they are like that you gotta deal with it. Me personally? If I found out I'd sell everything in the company and give the victims all the money cause I didn't do it & I don't wanna own a predator's business

[@M-E_123]

It's a bit different - Harrods are liable, but the new owners are not. Due to being separate legal entities under UK law, the new owners would have to be involved in their own right to hold any legal liability. Now, individuals who enabled the abuse as employees at Harrods who have since been moved to be employed by the new owning entity are also likely to hold some personal liability. And if it can be shown that the new owners kept people employed who they knew had been involved, liability could still extend to the new owners, but that wouldn't really be liability for the abuse, it would be liability for their own actions after first becoming aware of the abuse & who was involved as an enabler.

[@Robby_C]

I'm sure its just a coincidence that WWE and TKO just spent the last year talking about how many records they have been breaking....

[@trahapace150]

Doesn't matter, wwe vince linda and countless others were aware kids were being raped by a man in a position of power in their company using company reaources....end of fckin conversation

[@chuckles9767]

Ufc and wwe used a scaling ticket price to create an artificial spike in profit for the sale of tko to silver lake - silver lake and endevour are basically owned/operated by the same people. So its bizarre what they doing. The games billionaires play.

[@Robby_C]

@ it’s not an artificial spike if people are spending the money.

[@chuckles9767]

@Robby_C 1. its artificial in that it creates the appearance of a booming business when attendance hasn't truly grown, and in many cases is smaller 2. That's the bizarre nature of whats going on, the ufc has a long (alleged) past of laundering mob and saudi money (tbf they just use the ticket tek model). True, it could be the audience is slipping into a wealthier percentile of the population. Explains why the original "poor/commoner" audience has left, and the product now tailors to ultra-rich neo/psuedo-conservative virtue signallers, who have more money than taste. Namaste🫡

[@jvinson]

Wasn't Mel Phillips the guy that Terry Funk beat the shit out of when he took his ring gear and put his cowboy hat on?

[@SkipMDMan]

Haven't you seen how lawsuits work? You sue everyone, from the bottom to the top. The more people you add to the lawsuit the more likely you are to get paid. The bigger the fish the likelihood is they'll pay to make it go away.

[@XKenny77]

When you buy a company, you buy all its assets AND liabilities. That's why companies always try hard to settle any outstanding cases before they can be sold, because buyers don't want to have the risk of a big loss on the books when they buy a company. TKO is the corporate parent of the org that was Titan Sports which was the company that booked Mel Philips and those ring boys.

[@TheRealGothicBarbie]

If you buy a company. You assume all liabilities that comes with that company. It doesn't matter if it went down before you bought the company.

[@mattst.germain4023]

Not necessarily

[@scottmartin3228]

That ring announcer that abused the ring boys looked like Urkel from Family Matters.

[@analiysanchez9949]

Ring announcer

[@vycanismajoris6871]

I like Jim and agree on most things he have said about most of the stuff through the years. But 2 things is really disturbing. 1. He seems to act that Pat is a good person. He is a predator. A predator. Aint nothing good about that Jim. Please. 2. The denial about Ultimate Warrior. He was over. He is a legend. Get over it.

[@darylmixan8170]

Warrior was very over... but it was difficult to do a storyline for him... He popped like crazy, but then the buzz was over... The worst part about Warrior was his character wasn't really defined... He was a Mythical native Warrior? He justs seemed like he was a nightmare to work with, out of the ring, in the ring, and to book... Nothing seemed to fit in a storyline.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Also, Warrior wasn't a perv, an out of control drug addict, a wife beater, or a thief. The hostility to warrior from people like Cornette stems from these things: 1) He was rude/had a bad attitude 2) He openly disdained the wrestling business 3) He didn't pay his dues and represented everything that old school fans hated about the late 80's/early 90's.