The Third Secret of Fatima Theories - Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World

[@ricdimarco1499]

Guys thank you so much for this. I’ve been struggling for a few weeks with a recurring doubt, looking for signs and evidence that the Catholic Faith is a real part of the real universe. These two episodes came at just the right time. Thank you.

[@JimmyAkin]

Glad to have been able to help! God bless you!

[@thegreatrestoration6784]

@@JimmyAkin Jimmy what do you think about people who say the Third Secret is a Criticism of what's been happening to the Church since Vatican 2? And also about the Secret vindicating traditionalists like the SSPX who kept the Old Mass and Sacraments?

[@JimmyAkin]

@@thegreatrestoration6784 We have very good evidence that the entire Third Secret has been revealed. We do not have good evidence for contrary views of this nature.

[@thegreatrestoration6784]

@@JimmyAkin I have very good evidence that the entire Third Secret has NOT been revealed. They are as follows: "THERE WILL BE AN ECUMENICAL COUNCIL IN THE NEXT CENTURY, after which there will be chaos in the church. Tranquillity will not return 'till the Pope succeeds in anchoring the ship of Peter between the twin columns of Eucharist devotion and Devotion to Our Lady." October 11, 1997, Fr Laurentin: “The Secret concerned deviations from the faith that would arise IN THE CHURCH AFTER VATICAN II’’. Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, at a conference in 1967 said: «I have had the grace and the gift of reading the text of the Third Secret. [...] I can only say this to you: that very difficult times will come for the Church and that there is need of many prayers so that the APOSTASY MAY NOT BE TOO GREAT». Pope Paul VI: The tail of the devil is functioning in the disintegration of the Catholic world. The darkness of Satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church even to its summit. Apostasy, the loss of the faith, is spreading throughout the world and into the highest levels within the Church. Address on the Sixtieth Anniversary of the Fatima Apparitions, October 13, 1977. Pope Paul was dead 10 months later. Then, on May 13, 2000, Pope John Paul II in his sermon during the beatification ceremony warned the faithful by telling us: “The message of Fatima is a call to conversion, alerting humanity to have nothing to do with the ‘dragon’ whose ‘tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth’ (Apoc. 12:4).” By this statement, Pope John Paul II reveals that one-third of the Catholic clergy is being dragged down by “the serpent” - he is speaking in the present tense. The Book of the Apocalypse, Chapter 12 verse 4 speaks of the tail of the dragon sweeping one-third of the stars from heaven, which is commonly understood to mean one-third of the Catholic Clergy. Our Lady of Akita On October 13, 1973, the actual anniversary of the final visions and miracle of Fatima is as follows: "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. "The demon will rage especially against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will no longer be pardon for them." In the year 1995, in a personal communication to a professor Baumgartner of Salzburg, Cardinal Luigi Ciappi said: “In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top”. Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius XII) said the following in 1931: Suppose, dear friend, that Communism is the most visible among the organs of subversion against the Church and the Traditions of Divine Revelation. Thus, we will witness the invasion of everything that is spiritual: philosophy, science, law, teaching, the arts, the media, literature, theatre, and religion. I am concerned about the confidences of the Virgin to the little Lucia of Fatima. This persistence of the Good Lady in face of the danger that threatens the Church is a divine warning against the suicide that the alteration of the Faith, in its liturgy, its theology, and its soul, would represent. I hear around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the Church, reject her ornaments, and make her remorseful for her historical past. Well, my dear friend, I am convinced that the Church of Peter must affirm her past, or else she will dig her own grave. I will fight this battle with the greatest energy on the inside of the Church, just as outside of it, even if the forces of evil may one day take advantage of my person, my actions, or my writings, as they try today to deform the history of the Church. All human heresies which alter the word of God are so that a greater light might appear.”

[@thegreatrestoration6784]

@@JimmyAkin What about the interview from the Jesus magazine. In August of 1984 Cardinal Ratzinger (the future Pope Benedict XVI) gave interview to the journalist Vittorio Messori from «Jesus» magazine. Cardinal Ratzinger declared that he had read the Third Secret. Then the journalist had asked why this Secret was still not revealed? The Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith answered: Because, according to the judgment of the Popes, it adds nothing to what a Christian must already know from revelation: a radical call to conversion, the absolute gravity of history, dangers threatening the faith and life of the Christian, and therefore the world. And also the importance of the «last times»… But the things contained in this third Secret correspond to what is announced in Scripture and said again and again in other Marian Apparitions… Pope John Paul II at Fatima May 13, 2000: "The Message of Fatima is a call to conversion, alerting humanity to have nothing to do with the 'dragon' whose "tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth' (Apoc. 12:4). Man's final goal is Heaven, his true home, where the heavenly Father awaits everyone with His merciful love. Schismatics are not putting words in Pope John Paul II's mouth. Why you can find it in the link below on the VATICAN WEBSITE. w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/travels/2000/documents/hf_jp-ii_hom_20000513_beatification-fatima.html In an interview with German magazine Stimme des Glaubens, published in October 1981, John Paul II was pressed explicitly about the third secret. Pope John Paul II said in October 1981: "Because of the seriousness of its contents, in order not to encourage the world wide power of Communism to carry out certain coups, my predecessors in the chair of Peter have diplomatically preferred to withhold its publication." www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=74839 www.vatican.va/content/benedictxvi/en/speeches/2010/may/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100511_portogallo-interview.html Father Lombardi: Thank you, and now come to Fatima, in some way the culmination, even spiritually, of this visit. Your Holiness, what meaning do the Fatima apparitions have for us today? In June 2000, when you presented the text of the third secret in the Vatican Press Office, a number of us and our former colleagues were present. You were asked if the message could be extended, beyond the attack on John Paul II, to other sufferings on the part of the Popes. Is it possible, to your mind, to include in that vision the sufferings of the Church today for the sins involving the sexual abuse of minors? Holy Father: Consequently, I would say that, here too, beyond this great vision of the suffering of the Pope, which we can in the first place refer to Pope John Paul II, an indication is given of realities involving the future of the Church, which are gradually taking shape and becoming evident. So it is true that, in addition to moment indicated in the vision, there is mention of, there is seen, the need for a passion of the Church, which naturally is reflected in the person of the Pope, yet the Pope stands for the Church and thus it is sufferings of the Church that are announced. Also what do you think of the Prophecies of Our Lady of Good Success about the Post-Council Apostasy? Aren't they a confirmation of Fatima? They providentially become known once the Vatican tried to bury Fatima for good. Why doesn't Catholic Answers make Our Lady of Good Success known?

[@SamMcCloskey-j5y]

It is a joy listening to you Jimmy. We need more people like you telling us the truth about all these things.

[@anthony-kelly]

Thank you Jimmy and Dom! Your discussions are wonderful, and they help me navigate through this beautiful and complex world. 🕊

[@varyar77]

Great episode. I was fortunate enough to visit Fatima about 15 years ago. A blessed experience.

[@Adam-i4h8d]

@Jimmy Akin. God bless you. Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, pray for us!

[@orbeuniversity]

This is great analysis. @Jimmy Akin, Could you please make an episode regarding the apparitions of Our Lady to the seers in Garabandal.

[@ellobo4211]

I love the sequel entry and musical suspence in the background of these latest podcasts you guys are putting on..its like the old x files 2 part episodes they used to play..love it..

[@eribertoguerrero]

The Blessed Virgin Mary is nowhere in the Third Secret explaining it, as she did with the First Secret of (actual) Hell and the Second Secret of the end of World War I and the start of World War II.

[@MichaelPetek]

You omitted to mention the Severomorsk disaster 13-17 May 1984, when a massive chain of explosions resulted in the deaths of at least 200-300 people, and the destruction of at least 900 of the Soviet Northern Fleet's missiles and torpedoes.

[@Anthony-vc9dt]

Father Malachi Martin claimed to have read it! He said it spoke of people losing the faith and not realizing they lost the faith! Except in Portugal?

[@tomthx5804]

He is a con man

[@sarahwong9138]

Someone suggested that the Third Secret is about the Church being transferred to Fatima, and JPII had transferred a cornerstone of St Peter's Basilica to Fatima, if I remember correctly

[@Jay-sy4kx]

Thanks Jimmy, this was very interesting! My memories of 1985 could have easily been a lot different!

[@ecstaticallyeverafterwithc5904]

This episode blew my mind! Wow. Just wow. I am this much closer to becoming a Catholic.

[@kimfleury]

Thank you, Jimmy, for making all of this clear. I get lost in all the twists and turns of arguments against the revelation of the 3rd part of the Secret (I mean the arguments that say the Vatican is still covering it up). I've tried to read as much as I could from Sr. Lucia herself (of course there are still those who insist they weren't her own words because she died or was killed and replaced by an imposter, in which case it wouldn't be her own words but that of an imposter...but I can't fathom it being necessary to send an imposter to take her place, living among sisters who knew "the original" Sr. Lucia and thus were complicit in the conspiracy. I just want to direct them to Aisle 11 for tinfoil). As I listened to this overview, so many things fell into place. Thank you!

[@amyraab8326]

Excellent! Very informative Thanks fellas 👍❤️🙏

[@debraraab3565]

Hi Amy! Just checking this out❤

[@temp911Luke]

Wow! You are incredible Jimmy ! The connection you made about nuclear war, Russia and the angel...spot on ! Incredible !

[@adamhovey407]

Y'all are spoiling us.

[@DePalma.]

Great video…thank you. Maybe the interpretation from Portuguese to English was fumbled when sister Lucia saw it. Maybe she meant “this is my letter”…or “this is my handwriting” If one of these words was misused by the interpreter, it could’ve started the thought that this was supposed to be in letter form, when it wasn’t? Letra-letter (of the alphabet) Carta-letter (to someone) Escritura-handwriting And maybe the coloquial term for “my handwriting” was “mi letra” or maybe the interpreter or translator just made a mistake? Anyhow, if you speak Spanish, Portuguese or Italian it might be easier to see how something could be misconstrued:)

[@francescogorbechov4192]

Do an episode on World War 3

[@sarahwong9138]

Why are the subtitles in Japanese? (i muted my audio BTW )

[@shlamallama6433]

Jimmy Akin W

[@SuperRobyd]

I'm sorry Jimmy, I don't think Lucia revealed 3rd secret. Our lady told Lucia don't tell no one. Maybe Lucia wrote just to get everyone of her back. I believe secret died with Lucia

[@kimfleury]

Our Lady could have meant that the children should not reveal the 3rd part of the Secret unless and until ordered by the bishop. That's why Sr. Lucia said she wasn't able to write the 3 parts of the Secret until she was given approval by heaven.

[@damiansagastume7023]

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[@nevergiveup9471]

My question is “ If the men do not depend and better themselves...” Do we think that the people in the 60” have been worse than today? Just lets look at the way people dressed in 50-60 and what lack of clothing people ware nowadays. Music and dancing then and nowadays? In 60” we still knew what woman is - today half of our government cannot and will not define what woman is. The people left the church, the evil much more attracts the youth than in 60 or 80”. We are not in a better state than before.

[@John_McCarthy1]

Perhaps it's about the quality and not the quantity of the faithful? I'm not saying for certain that this is what I believe, just that this could be a possible explanation or counterpoint.

[@royalairships3008]

Could could the fire from the sky also be associated with the firestorm possibly associated with the 3 days of darkness? Which itself would be a great show!

[@francescogorbechov4192]

World War 3

[@rmartini6952]

The warning The clergy are now going to lead the church in the wrong direction. Any priest or laity who follows this direction can have no part in Christ's kingdom. Although not stated in the warnings, the implication is that the decisions from the Amazon Synod will lead the church to reduced emphasis on the Blessed Mother and the Eucharist!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@johnholmes6667]

Pope Francis is leading toward a Nee World Order in partnership with the UN. He’d revoked his papal titles and recommended along w/Cdl. Cupich that we pray w/the Muslims during this, the month of Ramadan! But it’s Our Lady’s month, but they made no mention of Her’

[@lunarmodule9915]

Jimmy Akin? 👎

[@adamhovey407]

you mind giving an explanation?

[@thegreatrestoration6784]

I agree with you. These 'Apologists' don't know a thing.

[@lunarmodule9915]

Jimmy Akin is pro Vatican II and is not a Canon Lawyer. I would never count on him for good apologetics.

[@adamhovey407]

@@thegreatrestoration6784 And you base that on what? It's an apologist's job to know these things, you know who's in ignorance? Those that are so obsessed with conspiracy theories, that they can't even see why they could possibly be wrong. Now, there are some conspiracies I believe, but I'm pretty sure that the ones around Our Lady of Fatima are not true.

[@johnholmes6667]

Lunar Module A tonio Socci as well as the good priests at the Fatima Center would disagree totally with Akin’s conclusions.