Wing Chun Fighters Don't Understand The Centerline [Avoid This Mistake!]

[@ismailibrahim1354]

This channel definitely should have more subscribers rather than other channels that don't teach wing chun the way it's supposed to be taught

[@EdwinAcevedo-pp4zm]

I agree with you 💯

[@EfficientWarrior]

Comment from Tony Massengill: one of my greatest pleasures in life is watching my student Jason Korol teach the Wing Chun I have passed to him! I know .... I know, that doesn’t say much for the quality of my sex life, but in my defense, I’m an old man with a lot of injuries .... but I digress! Back to the subject of the post! The greatest pleasure a teacher can have is to see a student take the baton you passed to him and see him advance it to the next generation! I have been extremely blessed to have Jason as my student, friend and Christian Brother!

[@JKDandWingChun]

😂😂😂😂!!! Seriously, though, the honor is all mine and I can’t thank you enough for all you’ve given - so much time, wisdom and instruction. 🙏.

[@tombaker6277]

You have good reason to be proud, this is world class instruction. This level/depth of insight is very rare and it’s great it’s in the public domain.

[@EdwinAcevedo-pp4zm]

🙏👍💯🙏👍💯☺️😌

[@tarkajedi3331]

I like the 4 quadrants from Fencing.... The centreline is important - Your point about center of mass is brilliant Sifu!

[@florisvanlingen]

Good video, most people dont really understand this. Even the explanation of the trap whilst going backward with spring energy is very valuable. I have been doing this for so long in my sparring and it lands the cleanest hits since your opponent probably doesnt expect it. Like sure stepping of the centreline at an angle isnt what we want to do since it is not the most direct route to our targets. Also we want to off balance or turn out opponent and hit. But we are not always in trapping range, often we need to bridge and just going forward especially with chain punches makes it very easy to counter. In that case we want to step off or in at an angle. I always tell people staying in front of them means they have 2 weapons, staying at their side like at an angle they momentarally can only use one hand and at their back they momentarally have no hands to defend.

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah this was a good video. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. It's asking a question about Chum Kiu. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@aidandavies2036]

I have been sceptical of wing chun, or at least this ''snobbishness'' which youve mentioned, its really great to hear and see a similar fighting model( if not exactly the same) as boxing and other forms of combat. I like the distinction you made about Traps. It seems that wing chun, boxing and any other martial art is really the same set of mathematical rules given different names.

[@Troglor048]

Every art has their snobs. These folks are usually those that don't have anything of substance in their own practice to back it up.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@Troglor048i mean, you're right on the first part, but the second one? idk man

[@Troglor048]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 might be an overstatement. I've met those that have some real skill and fighting ability that will talk down other non mma styles, but those are usually exceptions. Then there are the traditional guys that have a fancy lineage but not much of a personal practice to speak of - the traditional martial arts trust fund babies.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@Troglor048 well, that's about right

[@keithmyers8268]

Great video! Another misconception I've seen commonly in Wing Chun guys is that they don't realize that you do NOT have to occupy the centerline to defend the centerline!

[@CBHDK59]

keith myers. THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. LOL

[@joeminor15]

Agreed. You should have many more subscribers. You are an incredible, entertaining and encouraging Sifu. I could watch all day long.

[@selbie]

If there are schools that 'worship' a particular component above all the others then simply run away! because it's only doing you a disservice to your training. Imagine a soldier only learning target practice and the teacher claiming once you get bullseyes, you'll always win the battle 🤣👌 Gong Lik is the term used for the idea of mastering something comprehensively. So the centreline principle is just one puzzle piece within the bigger picture.

[@henrywong9572]

At first I thought it was Gordon Ramsey teaching Wing Chun, until I realized there wasn’t any swearing. Thank you Sifu Jason for the video! Keep up the good work.

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Ha Ha! Yeah, no swearing gave it away 😂. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. It's about Chum Kiu. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@NostalgicTribe]

Agree, My biggest problem in wing chun is when you do the drills the pause at the end of a drill to me is a problem. Example: Someone punches and other person paks/punch...but then they pause and pose. Working drills to learn technique is great. But it also trains something bad into your reaction. It causes you to pause after an initial punch. Instead of learning to be fluid and continuing. But I understand its just a drill. But like look at people in background training. Thats what I mean. They do their drill and then freeze into their final position. That causes hesitation. Maybe instead have them do the drill but following thru with whatever comes to them in the position the end up in. But have the first movement the actual drill but make sure they can save themselves if that punch falls flat.

[@Cryptosifu]

100% agree!

[@raydrexler5868]

People struggle with the concept of self defense vs consensual violence. Wing Chun works best when your attacker doesn’t know he’s in a fight and he thinks he’s going to roll over you.

[@phantom661929]

Thanks! Your insights into Wing Chun applications are great! Keep the good work.

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah, some great insights. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. It's asking a question about Chum Kiu. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@DxModel219]

It’s center mass... control the center mass not centerline. pressure and control the center mass!

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

I love the quality of students at this academy.

[@tombaker6277]

Some great pieces of information here. Footwork, position, angles of incoming punches, centre line for targets, central of mass for driving. Love the return to SLT stance “you don’t fight in the stance, you fight in the stance” comment. I’ve had some traditional instructors tell me to always spar from a SLT stance...I’m like where’s the footwork and mobility...

[@christophermiller3936]

It's like when you feel off balance and susceptible; but they fall, attack with speed on with chest pressure as you speed hit him to incapacitation, maybe.

[@jorel80]

Great video, I especially like how you emphasize the footwork, there's not alot of it represented in most WC content on youtube.

[@ChangingMan2023]

I understand it - it's not that difficult. I have though, been trained in Guangzhou, China. My sifu is very humble and very straightforward. Great video.

[@MichaelSmith-ze3iv]

Well said! I have always felt the most important concepts in functional martial arts for the idea of "centerline" were positioning yourself so that the majority of your weapons were able to be trained on your opponent and his were not (i.e. getting "off line ") and secondly to attack and control your opponent's skeletal structure (his center line) so he has no stability and is easily moved or taken down and does not have the foundation to launch an effective attack.

[@samueltaylorjr.3853]

Rock-solid generalizable martial knowledge.

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah, the techniques and strategies we're really good. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. I'm posing a question about the Chum Kiu form. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@AlexEinherjar]

Helpful as always. Your production style changed a little bit and it's interesting (I might've commented about this detail before but I can't remember), I really like seeing those glimpses of your classes, it's possible to see that what you say here in YT is a really abbreviated version of what you teach in your live classes. This approach to the centerline and considering the notion that your opponent won't just stand there and let you do whatever is a really important lesson to teach everyone. Looking forward to the next videos.

[@RichardAdhikari]

As always an excellent video clearly explaining the practical application of the centerline maxim. 👍👍👍

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah, this was a very clear and concise explanation. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. It's asking a question about Chum Kiu. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@RichardAdhikari]

@@martialartsaddict9966 Where?

[@danroldan1074]

Nice, very useful teaching sifu. Thank you!

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah, I agree it was very good. I've made a video about Wing Chun on my channel. It's asking a question about Chum Kiu. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@chrismorton9592]

Love the concept of movement.Thanks for sharing.Sifu Jason.

[@RobertMiller-sh7gb]

Good discussion! Really like your comments on footwork.

[@Negative0ne]

This is great! Thank you for the wisdom :)

[@bongothom]

Another great video, thanks. More footwork and position videos please.

[@Simon.P.Mathew.Freetime]

Thank you so much Sifu Jason for keeping wing chun alive and efficient to day. Please post more videos. And hopefully all sections on the mook jong 🤞🏼

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Hey Simon, I've recently offered to take a challenge match to prove that Wing Chun can work in a limited rules combat scenario. Rokas, from the Martial Arts Journey channel issued a challenge for practitioners to prove that Wing Chun works. To be fair, Rokas just wanted video evidence but, I thought, it would be better to actually offer him a challenge match. I've posted my challenge on my youtube channel. Please check it out and show support. The more support I get, the more chance the challenge match will happen!!! If you subscribe, please leave a comment, so that I can reply. Cheers!!!

[@christophermiller3936]

One should use offense to supply a + or - force to offset the opponent! Then come back with necessary techniques to pray and hurt once the body's centerline is broken and is falling down with just past the positive. Hit hard at the right time!

[@rickthatch3556]

interesting... I can see the similarity of this with ashihara karate in using "tai sabaki" movement in a similar way...

[@maestroland9345]

Once again, brother, you are a ‘Martial Genius’... 😁🤙😎

[@damiangordon7809]

don't get to say this often, i am impressed

[@AdrianElosegui]

Thanks a lot for tour invested time to improve this great fighting method and share it with us!!!

[@ljankok]

What if your opponent is a boxer and you shift to the inside of his attack, wouldn't you be risking at least a hook? - so,, what about shifting to the outside and attacking at the same time - wouldn't that put your opponent out of balance while at the same time being attacked and having no reach to you - just some thoughts

[@JKDandWingChun]

Good points. We should always try to flank the enemy and avoid the inner gate. With good footwork and shifting the goal is to get the guy out of position and/or take his balance away.

[@paolosmaldone9856]

Good as ever or more!Sifu Jason is using a secret W.C.weapon:the Occam's razor

[@JKDandWingChun]

Indeed!!!! 🙏

[@flavionapoleone4146]

Very good and true explanation Thank you so much to share it !

[@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop]

Thanks for the video, as always realistic and educational.

[@allangarcia5886]

If I am not mistaken, the central line promotes the best reflex especially when the elbows are in front of the body. For sure, the vital mass of organs all line up around the centre so you need the best defense for urgency result.

[@fortythirty1950]

Great Video, great instructor... Just read your book "wing chun for the modern warrior" a third time. Really appreciate your explanations.

[@JKDandWingChun]

The third time!! Wow. That’s awesome. So happy to be of service to you and the great art we practice.

[@stephanwatson7902]

Also wing chun people (and I think every martial artist, mma, boxer, w/e should learn WC) need to lengthen their punches to boxing length (like jkd does). I throw my punches straight down centerline but by turning my torso/hips/shoulders on the centerline to generate power, like the 1inch punch in wing chun. I see too many WC peeps train to punch with their legs and body but in a fight they just throw arm punches "windmill punches" people call them. It's really because training for combat was outlawed in the Qing Dynasty of China until 1911. Wing Chun punches used to look a lot more like GOOD boxing punches but after hundreds of years without sparring, this is what we're left with

[@moonstarlight3940]

T try hank you for this wonderful lesson

[@moonstarlight3940]

Thank you*

[@archiesargent2634]

Flow like water-all foot work

[@mattdavidson2678]

Great explanation

[@incarnacomics]

Wing Chun techniques are excellent for close quarter combat in tight spaces. Not so effective when the opponent has room to move or high level grappling occurs. That's why you see so many masters getting beat by MMA fighters. I believe Bruce Lee understand this early on and added the missing pieces.

[@ronmiller3319]

If the upper body moves, the lower body stays. If the lower body moves, the upper body stays. There must be a base from which to deliver power, and if both are moving, the only move is evasion based on the hinge door.

[@quirinzangl4693]

I think 'centerline(s)' are just a helping concept for effective blows...of course,success of a blow always is a compromise of best timing, economical movement (centerline) and force! And this only accounts for blows,not throws,locks and other grapplings..

[@PabloTBrave]

I was taught the centre line was only half the equation with the central line , and keeping him in your power box and him out of yours ( not fighting straight on be angled off) I hardly ever hear anyone talk about that. Even then it's one principle it's not the system

[@BlackMaskq]

Good footwork

[@johnbroadway7407]

If Bruce Lee was around today i think he would say to add what works and dont be confined. Be The Water

[@jacobkelley6491]

What I learned in "talking hands" I absolutely use in jiu jitsu and many people are pissed off by me hands movements and me fighting for dominance. This shit definitely works, its not the ultimate defense by any means but it trains your mind and body to move to the path of least resistance every time. Usually the response wasn't proportionate to the window you had open in Wing Chun but I'm also bigger than most so it didn't always help.

[@johnbroadway7407]

@@jacobkelley6491 i am sorry i do not know of this unless you mean going for control of hands by using the points between the bones which i do not think the gracies alow watched their videos and never saw them tell anyone to use points i could be wrong my teacher was adament that i know hand and finger control to end a confrontation as to not have to do more harm but to allways be ready to. if you compete i wish you all the best

[@JKDVIPER]

One of my first jkd coaches.. advice n what not.. solid dude

[@kungfujoe2136]

trapping is the practical form of chi-sao

[@fitsingerchanel]

Very nice 👍

[@Vscribe]

I see a lot of videos like this, and unfortunately, no matter how sound the conceptual thinking, I always see things fall down in the same area- you have wing chun people learning how to use wing chun against wing chun attacks. No one is going to attack you like a wing chun person, not even wing chun people when they actually try and fight, just check any clips of wing chun actually people sparring- those movements go out the window because they are not practical in their essence. Getting off the centreline when hooks are coming at your head is a whole different story. And no one just drops their arms below their chest for you to "attack the centre line." Plus, attacking the vital organs on the centreline just doesn't make sense, because your not going to stop someone's heart, lets say. Now don't get me wrong, I've trained Wing Chun for over 10 years and I love it as a system of body mechanics, and for its principles of understanding how to use your structure, but those movements of wing chun vs wing chun do not train you to deal with how people actually fight, which is not like wing chun people touching hands to learn a technique like Bruce Lee vs the big dude in the enter the Dragon. And its a big reality in Wing Chun that barely ever gets addressed.

[@stephanwatson7902]

They dont understand to keep their head off centerline or that hooks are thrown down the centerline from other angles and can also be used with Wing Chun concepts

[@PooleAcademyofWingChun]

There are several lines not just the centre line

[@farkinarkin5099]

:-) Footwork!

[@radiantmind8729]

Hmmm… Wing Chun guys must get beat up a lot.

[@benquinney2]

Roll with the punches

[@irajvf2676]

Could you guve us a chain punch speed training? Cause my chain punch speed sucks

[@HolidayXperiment]

I wish I could train with you But I live in Oklahoma.

[@ccm115]

Wing Chun requires wisdom, logic, proportion and adjustment to deal with.

[@jitsroller]

Or take boxing.

[@wuwuw5433]

No one will belive you unless you make a real fight and prove what you say👌🏻

[@reedslaughter131]

Are y’all in South Carolina

[@tcbtcb7553]

Yeah but , good WC is not about chasing punches, it is about attacking the attack, position, taking balance, disabling.

[@jitsroller]

Your chin is so open brother. Hooks uppercut and combos. No head movement? Do you have any footage of you sparring any real boxers. I know a gentleman that is 60 years old he helps coach at the gym he has awesome footwork speed, power and head movement. As nice as i can be he would light you up with that chin up like that.. I just am afraid you are going to get people hurt. Tuck that chin, protect the chin with your shoulder when you through a punch. Head movement. Be safe.

[@Zack1440]

👍🏼

[@michaeltruthson6262]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

[@michaeltruthson6262]

Perhaps you have unscrupulous haters of your channel or something but I am subscribed to you but I don't get notifications when you release new material.

[@JKDandWingChun]

Thanks, Michael. Did you turn on the notifications bell?

[@renatoarauz7784]

Learn boxing head movement and pivots and add your wing chun to that

[@vijayvijay4123]

That is not possible.

[@donaldwebb36]

9:25 - 9: 28

[@manfredadams3252]

If he starts pushing into me.. I will resist? I will step back?

[@LouKiss]

If centerline was applied and understood properly (which this video doesn’t even address because it’s a clever title that goes on to talk about footwork) you could lop sao, trap, and hit. I address wild punches and footwork with my JKD instructor on my channel.

[@jedi77palmer]

@@LouKiss Yeah nah, it doesn't

[@LouKiss]

@@jedi77palmer care to explain why or you just gonna troll?

[@jedi77palmer]

@@LouKiss Dude I looked at a bunch of your vids, you are clueless.

[@zibtihaj3213]

Wait - what is the take away from this video ! ? Anyone

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

I suppose that it was "regular wing chun people do not understand what the centerline theory is about" but i understand what you mean. This video is poorly structured haha

[@davidadmingerardo9423]

SHOULDER LINE OR MARCO

[@donaldwebb36]

6:27

[@ives3572]

There's no such thing as when you take yourself off of the centerline you're not going to get hit

[@stephanwatson7902]

In defense of Wing Chun after not being allowed to spar or train for combat, for hundreds of years...ANY martial art would lose effectiveness. WC needs to evolve backwards before the Qing dynasty outlawed martial arts and they need to look at jkd/mma to round out their fighting

[@daltondammthebabe]

00:20

[@benitoornelas2410]

Prove it.

[@vijayvijay4123]

Only I know the real wing chun

[@joanstone6740]

I think you would enjoy Xingyi . No nonsense Kung Fu more powerful than wing Chun

[@richardgomez1151]

1+sub

[@m96920]

But you really believe that WT can be effective for self defense in real situations? It is so complex.

[@AlexEinherjar]

Even Boxing can be complex for a beginner. I don't know for long you've been practicing or interested in Martial Arts/Self Defense. But Sifu Jason's way of teaching is really practical and down to earth.

[@John14.6OuO]

Ty for this Btw 👇 God LOVES YOU so MUCH that He sent His only son to die In YOUR PLACE so you won't have to die under Gods judgement but live forever IF you fully trust in Jesus. Repent from thinking wickedness!!!

[@smartresearchwingchun494]

😂

[@peterryan4185]

You dis wing chun in the title, bye.

[@oskarklang8616]

U upset?

[@tonymassengill792]

He isn't disrespecting Wing Chun, just the people who misunderstand how to utilize its principles! .... There is a difference!