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[@trev114heusdens]

2.0t For me I love if

[@trl510]

I just don't get these comparisons why not get the same body and all except the motor, since the motor is being compared. this is not even a comparison...

[@walterwillis5351]

Agreed - the reason he made it over the one spot in the 2 door where the 4 door could not - wheelbase difference. Front wheels were still on the rock when the rear hit the rock.

[@alphaartisan]

No good

[@captainsnarky6949]

Yep. This is the worst comparison video I've ever seen.

[@melvin5818]

Yeah it is the best thing we got out of this video was how capable is a stock JL

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Well if you cant make an clear pick out of the two from these two videos then who is to blame? Between the diesel and petrol which are rated almost the same what did you expect? Factor in Diesel Jeep cost more, turbo can eventually fail. id take the 3.6L anyday.

[@thomasgarrison3949]

Thanks for the video. We are both retired & don't plan to do much rock crawling, except to get to some out of the way fishing sites. For our 30th wedding anniversary, we decided that pearls weren't useful, It is much easier to pull our fishing boat with a 4x4 than a string of pearls! So, we bought our first Jeep, a Sarge Green, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport, 4 door, 2.0 turbo, the black, 18" stars for the front doors are finally in at the dealership, where they will have them put on, for us, next week. This Jeep will be driven in parades, up here in NE Indiana, with the American Legion & the Disabled American Veterans.

[@merendeztorres1026]

I just got my first Jeep 4 door 2.0 i4 turbo Wrangler JL and can’t wait to see what kind of mods you do so I can see what mods I could do to mine as well

[@hghori1]

I have to say watching this from the sand dunes of Abu Dhabi the real test in our backyard is climbing really tall dunes. That’s when you will really get the difference between the two engines

[@Dubai892JK]

Exactly, that's the proper way of testing engine capability. Otherwise just moving a vehicle over few rocks is not a big deal.

[@WRXXXual]

I moved to Minnesota from VA, and I miss wheeling at Rausch Creek. It was a long drive to the, "Creek," but worth it every time!

[@AngelRodriguez111]

What gearing does each vehicle have? is it the same?

[@series9193]

Bad comparison of engines off-road when one is a 2 door and the other a 4 door the ground clearances are different and your comparing what they can do by way of engine performance but it’s a comparison of approach angle breakover etc.

[@unixfool]

They weren't comparing crawling capability between the two vehicles...he said the multiple times. They were comparing how the engines responded to crawling.

[@bobforpples]

Ron S Won’t a V6 with more weight(4 door) respond differently than if it had less weight(2 door)?

[@carwarz]

sweet video, keep up great work

[@TheKarmaKrash]

Is there a video list of what you ended up doing with your 2 door?

[@CaseyDesmond]

Loved this, thanks!

[@Stormtrooper-iy5ld]

Love the color on the 2 door

[@wvmountaineer1314]

I would be interested in the same test with over sized tires.

[@1972mercurycougar]

Best thing you can do for, any lesser Wrangler, is make sure you order Anti-Spin Differential. With solid tires, it really helps. Nobody wants to spend the 600 bucks, but wishes they did while wheeling, in snow. Just my personal opinion.

[@BeingInTheMessiah]

High rpms and little airflow runs hot on the 3.6 it would be interesting to see how the turbo survives repeated off road use

[@indridcold8433]

That tiny engine with a turbo is nothing buy a grenade waiting to explode. Traditionally four cylinder engines and turbos make for a short lasting engine, unless it is a diesel.

[@TheSchmed]

Indrid Cold yep, let’s see 100k miles later, a blown out 4 cyl turbo vs a just broken in 3.6 V6.

[@BeefaloBart]

Love to see this comparison once the diesel comes out, then do all 3 with same body style.

[@diekatze9361]

Thanks so much for the Video , Looking at a JL at this time , same color as well , but with a soft top . ...

[@Raydawg]

My question is, can that RPM being modulated by the ecu be reprogrammed out of the ecu? I want to upgrade my JKU to the new JLU, Just can't find the model I want on any freaking lots V6 manual transmission RUBICON. I want full control of my JLU, I already plan to rip the rear camera off before leaving the lot and hopefully someone will offer a kit soon to relocate the tail lights in some, I rip the license plate bracket off all the time when off road. I can only imagine how easy those lights will tear off.LOl

[@phillipcraggs6202]

in low range, HP and torque are less of a factor, the whole point of low range is to use less power from the engine. try the same in Hi range

[@thecappy]

I was going to wait for the diesel, but I went V6. I've only ever had problems with turbos. Vacuum hoses crack, carbon deposits, fins blades brake. Had an subaru STi turbo that basically turned into a grenade.

[@unixfool]

Gi flip side is, I'm coming from a 2011 STI. I had not a single mechanical issue the 7 years I owned it. Definitely not shit. This is my third turbocharged car. If you take care of turbocharged cars, they'll be fine.

[@DimplesChild401]

Exactly. I’ve known people to put regular and MidGrade fuel in Turbos and complain about performance. I say don’t buy a Turbo if you’re going to put cheap gas in it and not keep up with your maintenance.

[@GuestEngine]

Love the 2-door. Hate Jeeps standard black body on the Grey. Are you removing the fenders and replacing with what?

[@mct8888]

Next week we'll compare a Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x2 with a Range Rover.

[@chefmarcos]

Why compare a 2 door and a 4 door? All that effort and they couldn’t have 2 of the same model?

[@rubencampos1873]

Make sure you change the headlights before you add the front bumper and winch

[@michaelfallen1564]

I'd stay away from the 2.0 for at least a few years to see how they hold up, I just don't see the point in risking potential issues when the 3.6 has proven to be a very reliable engine and really has no discernible differences in performance. I'm not saying the turbo is a bad motor, and I personally like when manufacturers offer a variety of different choices, but Id rather have someone else figure out its a dud rather than have issues myself.

[@rahulreddy9045]

Calling the 3.6 reliable is a stretch

[@robertgoins7933]

The 2.0 turbo hurricane motor isn't new. It's been around for a while...

[@rodpalmer4652]

@@robertgoins7933 Is this an actual Chrysler engine, or is it sourced from Europe?

[@viper7981]

My father is an engineer that works on these engines and he said he would laugh if I were to get a 2.0 Turbo. He continuously tells me that it is a "junk motor" and the models this year and the next are mainly to test the capabilities of the turbo. Please. If you are an enthusiast, please get a V6 so that you will not be disappointed.

[@robertgoins7933]

@@viper7981 Your dad is wrong.

[@ryanharris2415]

arent the motor features swapped now? As in the v6 has etorque now whereas the i4 no longer has it. Would love to see an update on the new versions of motors.

[@floydjohnson2046]

How will the 2.0 hold up to deep muddy water 30+ inches

[@fishndad63]

I agree with other comments. I opted for 3.6L on the 2 door sport. I just cant be a fan of a 4 cylinder (with or without turbo) I was hoping to see if my decision paid off! Also, maybe I've read it wrong, but the v6 has 285 HP and 260 ft lbs torque. ;) The 2.0 L has 270 hp with an impressive 295 ft lbs of torque. I admit I am old school and did not want to rely on a turbo for the life of the motor.

[@Dubai892JK]

Just an advice for life, whenever looking at engines stats... Pay attention to what RPM these figures are achieved.. Most of the time they are misleading

[@jefferyrobinson9984]

I've noticed with the 4 cylinder it uses or burns more oil and the oil level has to be checked frequently and topped off. The 6 doesn't burn any oil and maintains its proper oil level until its changed and doesn't work as hard. Is this your experience as well. Oh to note these examples with the 4 is in the 2014 and 2015 Cherokee Limited and the 6 is from my 2018 Cherokee Overland. My 4 from my past 95 Wrangler stick was dependable and fun to drive but also felt like it worked harder (higher rpms of course). I also love my 21 Gladiator High Altitude with the automatic 6 cylinder. Thanks for any input.

[@extremeterrain]

I've been using a two-door 2018 JL 2.0L as my daily driver since February of 2019 and I have *not* noticed any substantial oil consumption in between oil changes after 26,000 miles of driving. Granted I'm in southeastern Pennsylvania so elevation hasn't been that much of an issue. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you run quality full-synthetic oil and change it every 3,000 to 5,000 miles you shouldn't have any issues with these little turbos. -Zach

[@bladez942]

I love the 21 Sahara turbo. It’s so quick

[@extremeterrain]

I have a 2018 2.0L and its definitely fast for a Wrangler! -Zach

[@Chris-Magyar]

Do you guys have a video on rock light instal?

[@japopo5533]

Do the same test big tires and a lift that would be interesting

[@GTRJohnny66]

Great video, sounds like a toss up for a winner. What color is that 2-door? I like it, sort of a green gray.

[@markk3488]

Stingrey

[@1BadVan]

I test drove both the 2.0 and the 3.6. The 2.0 definitely feels more peppy, kicks you back more. But we prefer the smoother powerband of the 3.6, much nicer and quieter engine note of it as well. Plus long term reliability I trust the 3.6 more.

[@extremeterrain]

Same feeling when I drove the 2.0L compared to the 3.6L! I ended up choosing my turbo though. Plus having the Wrangler as a lease helps take the worry away from long term reliability. 😉 -Zach

[@Nikait1975]

JLU V6 renovado.. I will buy the renewed V6 JLU 02-01-2019

[@MrSergiosa]

Please compare manual and automatic transmission with different motors model

[@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy]

Tough to compare on snow where you get wheel-slip with both Jeeps. A 1.0L NA 3 cylinder would get wheel-slip too in these conditions...wheelbase differences aside. That said, just put a freaking turbo on the 3.6L and bob's your uncle! There's no replacement for displacement! ...unless there's a huge weight difference? Because lightweight could be awesome.

[@titolynch]

How many times can a man say “little” in one video. Great video by the way. I would still choose the 3.6L

[@Alwaysgotafighterschance]

It's 2023 and Australia is bringing out the 2.0 for 2024 models. In this day an age if you had another 2.0L what performance mods would you recommend doing to get abit more power out of it. Ie intake, ecu chip, exhaust etc etc from your experience as this is all new for us Australians

[@extremeterrain]

Mishimoto has a really cool intercooler pipe which lets you get more air to your turbo easier, I had it on my 2.0L JL and it was great! Pair that up with a cold air intake, cat-back exhaust and a piggyback tuner and you'll be seeing plenty of extra power. -Zach

[@pauldonnelly6691]

I just rent 2020 jeep Wrangler 2.0 l turbo and later broke down on the way home it has only 2600 miles on it the alternator fail

[@jclrk828]

Do you think the wheel base might make a difference; why not compare the same vehicle with the different engines.

[@alexhaas4645]

Why did you disconnect the sway bar? Isn’t that needed? New(to me) jeep owner ‘03 4.0 Sahara with d44 in the back.

[@thechangstep9052]

The Sahara and the Sport packages do not come with an anti-sway bar disconnect, so that's why he didn't disconnect it.

[@WesleyOnlineNet]

The sway bar is to lessen body roll especially at high speeds. When rock climbing, you disconnect the sway bar to allow more articulation of the suspension.

[@maverick1367]

The v6 why change to new engine if I already know the v6

[@onefastcyclist]

impressive for stock jeeps with street tires - now try a YJ with the 4.0 in-line 6 without traction control to discover how great it was. I assume your going through the Metalcloak catalog for your upcoming JL mods?

[@indridcold8433]

Unfortunately, if he tried a YJ with a 4.0 inline six engine without traction control as a comparison to the JL, he will feel as if he was robbed.

[@RKmndo]

Considering that a lunchbox locker for a YJ/TJ is only around $400US, I think he'd come out ahead with a $3K-$6K 4.0L YJ/TJ, for offroad abuse. They're simpler and narrower. The I6s are tractor motors. 33x10.5s fit with just TJ Rubicon flares and a 1" polyurethane bodylift. A 1" MML then allows high-clearance skids too. High-clearance, low COG, and 6" narrower...on a small budget.

[@onefastcyclist]

@@indridcold8433 Having wheeled both, I'm confident that Skill, good tires, and a switchable locker will get that old 6 (with great low end torque) just as far up a trail as any newer Wrangler with traction control

[@indridcold8433]

@@onefastcyclist I am getting a front lunchbox next week. The rear will have to stay factory limited slip a bit longer. My rolling time capsule has had a lot of mud adventures. But, I have never had any locker. I must have read about a hundred articles over which axle to put a locker into it. I watched several videos also. Since the rear axle had a limited slip anyway, I went with the front lunchbox. Tyres are 33x12.5 R15 Dick Cepek Extreme Terrain on stock 15x8 Canyon rims on 2.5 inch spacers. (I know, yuck spacers! But never had a problem with them) To get the Extreme Terrains to fit, SkyJacker 4.5 inch lift that I put in completely alone with had tools. To stop all the issues with heat, I got hood louvers, a three tank aluminum radiator with electric fan. To combat the night at extreme rural locations, a slew of lights: Two KC stock lookalike LED headlight retrofits, two under fender spot lights, two flood lights at windshield level spot lights, two ditch lights, eight inch fog lights, 52 inch Cree light bar, two six inch LED reverse lights. Communication is a vintage Cobra 148GTL CB on a 102 inch antenna and an off brand HF/VHF/UHF transceiver on an off brand dual band antenna. It looks quite overdone at first glance. But it is all cheap upgrades and modifications. I have had it a very long time.

[@garyvanmeter4911]

@@indridcold8433 How did the front locker work out? My lifted 1986 XJ/4cyl /5 spd manual went everywhere with a just a rear factory LSD (until it went over backwards at MOAB, cartwheeled, then over a cliff) . The Rubicon trail was easy with it. But my lifted !993 with 4.0L/auto is not as sure footed. So I have considered a front lunchbox locker. My 93 does not have the front axle disconnect. If I install a front lunchbox will it have good street manners while in 2wd and do far better in 4wd?

[@richystar2001]

High compression turbo direct injection will carbon up with gunk after long term use then they will develop knock after 130 000 miles. Plus you can only use Premium gas to get high performance and mpg. Stay away from the 2.0l turbos with high mileage. Because an engine replacement will be in your future.

[@stevendavidsonrn]

So around 3 years later, would you still buy the 4 cylinder?

[@extremeterrain]

I've had my 2.0L JL since early 2019 and I've been happy with it! Right around 24 mpg daily with it, plenty of horsepower and torque, the only downsides I can speak of are needing to use 91 octane fuel and paying for nicer synthetic oil when changes come around. 😂 I haven't heard of reliability issues either when looking at forums or Facebook groups! If you're in the market for a JL I'd recommend giving both engines a test drive! -Zach

[@carlosdanielosunafranco8581]

Orales que buena duda tenía está resuelta compraré el 2.0 turbo 4 puertas más económico en gasolina e igual de eficiente mucho mejor

[@davidtwa8492]

2 door 2.0 liter vrs a 4 door with a v6 with the same horse power diffrent tourque you needed to compare 2 2 doors with diffrent engines

[@cartermackenzie1135]

With a cold air intake and a mishimoto intercooler pipe and the jb4 tune my Jeep’s 0-60 is around 5.8 seconds on 91 octane. With a 4.10 gear swap or meth injection I bet it would be faster than a v6 with the prodigy performance turbo kit

[@solofade7524]

Looking to buy a rubicon 2.0l 2021yr. What are your thoughts? Choosing it over the 3.6l

[@extremeterrain]

The 2.0L is a solid little engine! I have a 2018 2-Door Sport with 25,000 miles on it now and I've had 0 issues. The power delivery and driving feel is a little different compared to the 3.6L, so I recommend driving both to see which you like the feel of best. -Zach

[@solofade7524]

@@extremeterrain thanks! I will drive it to see which feels better!

[@brucebailey8048]

Love jeep wranglers but, the new ones scare me: Jeep JL Earlier this month, Fiat Chrysler announced a recall for over 18,000 2018 and 2019 Jeep Wranglers because failing welds were causing a critical suspension mounting bracket to detach from the frame. Now we have the instructions for how Fiat Chrysler plans to fix the bad frames, which the company said could cause some Jeeps to “crash without prior warning.” Between May 7, 2018 and Aug. 21, 2018, Jeep’s Toledo North Assembly Plant used frames with an “off seam [track bar] weld location” to build up to 18,055 new Jeep Wranglers. The result, Jeep says in its NHTSA Safety Recall Report, is that likely around 720 vehicles (4 percent of the recall population) have track bar brackets that could potentially “[separate] from the frame.” This sounds like something you’d never really want to happen to your vehicle for a number of reasons, but Jeep identifies that it could possibly lead to reduced steering response and even a crash. Fiat Chrysler previously told Jalopnik that it planned to inspect all 18,000+ vehicles, but now-thanks to dealer service instructions posted to a Jeep JL owner’s Facebook page-we know how the company will actually fix the roughly 720 cars it expects to find with bad welds. The first step for dealers is to lift the vehicle and check out the build date code on the frame. If that number is greater than or equal to 126 and less than or equal to 156, then the vehicle was built in the May 7, 2018 to Aug. 21, 2018 window, and its owner should be offered a loaner car as the Jeep gets inspected further. Vehicles with frame codes in that range will then have their track bar bracket welds-both the inboard and outboard ones-cleaned. From there, with the steering wheel cranked to the left to help give better access, dealers will paint the vehicle’s three-digit VIN to the outboard frame bracket, and take a picture of both welds like so: Those pictures, along with the frame build date code, the vehicle’s VIN, and the dealership’s information, will be sent to a “Track Bar customer care representative,” who will take a close look at the welds’ positions. If the representative looks at the photos and determined that the welds are in the right spot, then the Jeep is all set, and no repair will take place. But if he or she finds one or both of the welds to be out of place, dealers will arrange to have a “Technical Weld Specialist” come to make the weld repair. But before that can happen, the dealer has to take some stuff apart. To prep the outboard weld to be repaired by the weld specialist, dealers are asked to disconnect the battery before lifting the Jeep, remove the left front wheel, undo the track bar nut and bolt shown above, and then take the track bar off of the poorly-welded bracket on the frame. From there, Fiat Chrysler says its “Technical Weld Specialist will perform the repair on the outboard weld.” There are no further details on how exactly the specialist will conduct the fix, but clearly the job will involve welding that bracket back onto the frame somehow. Fiat Chrysler told me via email simply: “Weld will be made to comply with specs.” Once the weld specialist’s job is done, dealers will bolt the track bar back onto the frame (with a new nut and bolt), throw the wheel back on, lower the Jeep, torque down the track bar nut to spec, and then give the vehicle back to the customer. That is, unless the inboard weld also needs to be fixed. Repairing the inboard weld is significantly more involved than fixing the outboard one. In addition to lifting the Jeep and removing the left front wheel, the air dam has to be taken off, and four steering gear mounting bolts have to be removed (to get the steering gear box away from the bracket weld location) after the track bar has been unbolted from the frame bracket: Each sway bar link’s lower nut and bolt also have to be taken out, likely to get the sway bar out of the way. Then, by grabbing the right front wheel and turning it, the vehicle’s wheels need to be pointed to the rightmost position. This will pull the steering gear away from the frame, and thus away from track bar bracket to give better access to the inboard weld. That’s when the Technical Weld Specialist will perform the inboard weld repair, or possibly replace the entire bracket. With that done, dealers will grab the front right tire, and turn the steering linkages to the leftmost position in order to line the steering gear back up with the mounting holes in the frame. New bolts will then be threaded into the steering gear and torqued down. A new bolt will hold the track bar into the newly-welded (and possibly entirely new) bracket, and new bolts will be used to hook the bottoms of the sway bar links back to the steering knuckles. The wheel will go back on and get torqued to spec, then the vehicle will be lowered, and the sway bar and track bar bolts will be tightened. Once dealers install the air dam, do an alignment, and check the work via a test drive, the Jeep will be all fixed and ready to go back to the customer. Jeep lists how much time dealerships can bill to each procedure in the table below: So if you’ve got a 2018 or 2019 Jeep Wrangler affected by the recall, now you know what type of surgery might be in its future.

[@Ang.0910]

Bruce Bailey holy shit that’s the longest comment I’ve read! Thanks for the info tho!!

[@narssasisticasshole3255]

At least they are fixing it and the newer jeeps are better now

[@craigversetti5700]

WOW !!! Now that's a comment , however im definitely more educated now . Im curious what i need to do , where to go or what to join to get information and news like you just shared ? Thx

[@slomango7927]

The 2.0l would be much better if it also had port injection which is doesn’t. The intake valves will gum up around 60k miles and have to be walnut blasted. This is why every other manufacturer is going with both direct and port injection ie. ford, Toyota, etc. If you factor in this maintenance item you will be fine 👍

[@extremeterrain]

The 2.0L actually has oil-separators installed from the factory, and so far many owners with aftermarket catch cans have reported not getting much blow-by, if any! From what I've seen (so far anyway, time will show longevity of these 2.0Ls) if you use high quality oil and keep up with your maintenance intervals we should have a solid engine choice here. -Zach

[@TheSavage3.6]

the 3.6 is much more reliable

[@slomango7927]

@@TheSavage3.6 this comment thread is 4 years old 😂

[@TheSavage3.6]

@@slomango7927 You still responded

[@garrettcampbell5995]

Next time go 4door on both. Add the weight in the turbo. Then feel it take a dump. Turbo the 3 liter and see what you get. TaKe the hp up to around 380+ range and way more torque.

[@KubanKevin]

4 door vs 2 door even with the same engine it makes a huge difference especially when rock climbing

[@TomTom-wro]

Im not sure this was a fair compare just because of the weight 3 door vs 5 door has. I agree that tires used were as bad as they could have been in both cars including all-season which isn't optimal for snow & ice. For my taste and family usage I bought a 5 door Rubicon Recon which has on board Dana 44 axles front & rear plus enforced front differential. Of course, 3.6 V6 engine.

[@dieseltrucks1895]

2 huge variables here. 1. wheelbase 2. Tires

[@joeshmoe8952]

How does the 2.0 do with 33 inch tires?

[@extremeterrain]

It does great! Many people report throwing 35s on with little issues too because of that turbo! -Zach

[@larrytillick952]

OK, so what is the price difference in the two engines? If the 2.0 is more than the 3.6, what is the point of the 2.0 since in reality, their performance is so close?

[@g496r500t]

Larry Tillick 2.0 is more by 3k

[@jgoldman2]

Love your videos, but you never remember to mention what transfer case you have and when you are in 4H or 4L, and if you used any of the hill descent or other aids. For us noobs, it would really help if you tried to remember to mention this verbally or put an overlay on screen.

[@extremeterrain]

Fair point! For the majority of slow and technical off-roading over rocks like you saw in the beginning of the video, 4L is always the go to. For lighter trails where you don't have to worry about picking lines and going up over obstacles, 4H is the go to. Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@Lefishn]

2019 JL 2.0 here and just did a 200km trip where I got 34.5mpg avg

[@extremeterrain]

I had a 2018 with the 2.0L and loved it! Great power and even better MPGs for a Wrangler. -Zach

[@jamieeisenhower1560]

You should have done a better review with two 2 door ones. Are two 4 door ones with 2.0 and 3.6

[@russiaKGB]

wait 4 diesel one

[@petevitale1416]

Need Wildpeak Falken AT3 w tires .

[@co4x4]

I'd like to see you put 37's on your 2 door. I'm in the process (various upgrades to stock front axle) of going to 37's on my JK 2 door (Rubicon) and it be great to see those size tires on a JL. Good luck!

[@co4x4]

@Orion Stucky I have the 3.6 motor with an automatic and plan on running the stock 4.10 gears for about a year perhaps even longer till I save up enough $ to swap into 5.13's. Running stock 4.10's around town and even offroad on the trail isn't bad. The issue with 4.10's and 37's will be trying to keep up with my wheeling buddies on the interstate at 75mph going up into the mountains. Once there at the trail head I'll be fine :)

[@TheSchmed]

Let’s see 100K miles later which motor is doing better over the other. My guess, the 3.6l natural aspirated not 1/2 as “worn” as the higher revving, turbo 4 banger.

[@extremeterrain]

Actually the 2.0L has a lower redline compared to the 3.6L and its peak torque hits a lot lower compared to the V6 due to how the turbo and eTorque system is set up. The 3.6L is likes to be revved to get its all of its HP out though, so its a little apples to oranges there. Long story short, the 2.0L has shown to be pretty impressive over the last 3 model years! I have one! -Zach

[@CharlesB46]

Everyone stating turbo needs more revs in the thread need to get educated on current turbos. This is one of the benefits of a turbo! more torque at lower revs. This isn't 1980.

[@evanwilliams8087]

Charles Beeler The guy in the video said on the Dyno, the torque numbers were only available at higher RPM

[@8w494]

Turbos, even small efficient ones, have lag. Without having seen the dyno charts, I'd bet one would not notice any real world difference between a boosted and NA 2L below 3k RPM.

[@indridcold8433]

A tiny four cylinder petrol powered engine with a turbo is asking for a cracked cylinder head. New technology nor not, the cylinder head is still too small to successfully handle the pressures of a turbo for any extended period of time. Is this a planned obsolescence? There is no way that tiny engine with a turbo is going to get to 175,000 miles. It is a grenade waiting to explode.

[@Shad0wC0mpany2]

this ☝🏻

[@Yauu2]

My 2.8 CRD JK (diesel), Europe, has 339 ft-lb. Not worth to make any comparison video to these JL models. So wait for the diesel in the US.

[@bryanjean4873]

Not much comparison with street tires on both, AT tires it wouldn't be any problems getting stuck

[@daddydaughterfishing6941]

Where are the videos of your 2.0 turbo build?

[@extremeterrain]

Ryan's build never happened, unfortunately! Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@daddydaughterfishing6941]

@@extremeterrain well dang!! I was looking forward to that!! And Thank you and nice videos!!

[@mrmackee123]

Same chassis would have made this review perfect.😪

[@TheCableGuy1981]

Many people have built V6 Jeeps on 37's & bigger.. I'd really like to see how that 2.0L 4 cylinder handles 37's.. I'd like to see how it performs before getting one built that way.

[@robertgoins7933]

Go to the JL forum. There are a few people with 2.0 engines running 37s with no issues.

[@capt.stubing5604]

Most owners with 37s are going to want to go the lower gearing, probably with either engine. I just don’t see the advantage of paying so much more for gas to get a small bump in mileage, other than range.

[@marquezo]

@@capt.stubing5604 so which engine do you like out of the two ?

[@cello4ever85]

Cooper mud terrain 😁

[@slavakuznetsov4966]

You guys could get all the way up in the two-door. Easily! Stock 2.0L 2door is obviously a lot more off-road capable!

[@chrisecker9341]

I don‘t trust this new 2.0L turbo. 2nd generation maybe. I‘m burned by the AFM issues on my GM 5.3L

[@kevinfarrell3121]

So, just looking for honest opinions from folks that already have the 2.0 I have a 2021 Gladiator and a 2000 Sahara. Both have 6 cylinders. I am looking at a 2018 Wrangler Unlimited to use as my daily vehicle. In my lifetime, I never would purchase a 4 cylinder as I always wanted to be sure the car can get out of it's own way. Of course, as things change, I am under the assumption that these 2.0 Liters with the turbo are much better than 4's used to be. Am I correct in that assumption? Also the one I'm looking at momentarily has around 82,000 miles on it (I can't afford a brand new one). I'm in my late 50's and am thinking whatever I buy will probably be my last "New to me" vehicle! I want to be sure i will be happy with this one while keeping my other two as well. I won't be doing a lot of playing with this one so I don't care about all the tow package and what it will do on a trail. I just need to be confident it will get me to and from work (About 10 miles each way) and an occasional 300 to 700 mile drive to visit family! I'm just looking for honest feedback to help me make my decision! Thanks !

[@Jeeppeeps]

While I am a 2 L turbo fan myself having one in my 2021 Willys four-door I don’t think comparing a two door to a four-door is Ever in comparison to two doors have much better numbers when it comes to off-roading. However I will say having driven them both myself the 2 L feels much much peppier than the pennastar

[@777lukasz9]

2.0 Maintenance requires changing spark plugs every 30k. Look it up. I'll pass on this turbo direct injected FCA motor.

[@SoManyBasses]

Gasp.....not the spark plugs!!!

[@denoex2362]

Wrong. It’s 60k for the 2.0L. 100K for the 3.6L. I have the manual open in front of me.

[@777lukasz9]

@@denoex2362 The guy used a dealer connect website to show the maintenance schedule. "2.0 turbo and 3.6 maintenance schedule, Fluids and capacities 2018 Jeep JL Wrangler" watch that video. Every 30K for 2.0 turbo.

[@denoex2362]

777 Lukasz I just watched that video, and I will email an FCA corporate contact I have tomorrow to see if they can clarify. 3rd Edition Rev 2 of the full owner’s manual says 60k and the MOPAR owner’s portal says 60k as well. I would be surprised if the 30k interval isn’t a mistake.

[@denoex2362]

It took a while but I finally heard back from my contact, who is an “Executive Referral Manager” at FCA. Response pasted below: “Per your inquiry regarding the spark plug maintenance interval, I consulted with Engineering for confirmation. I was told the spark plugs should be changed every 60,000 miles. The dealership's portal and the owner's portal will be updated to be consistent with this information. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.”

[@717UT]

I'd be on board if it was a 2L turbo DIESEL. I hate that this country hates diesel motors...

[@TheSchmed]

Sahara has rear LSD that sport does not have

[@nickolsen2175]

Extreme terrain should host an event at rausch after this winter breaks

[@Ben-sv9op]

I drove the four-cylinder turbo did not like the squeaky sound of the motor I thought the V-6 was a lot stronger and sounds better .. so v6 it was

[@extremeterrain]

I've been driving my 2.0L daily for the last two years with no issues at all! You can't go wrong with the V6 though! -Zach

[@hirpm8564]

my 3.6 has 280hp

[@black_widow_overland]

I enjoy my 2.0 i4 turbo 🤙🏻

[@chanceborgese1795]

Black_Widow_Overland what gas mileage do you get?

[@g.fortin3228]

To me, can't have a "best" video without discussing track record for reliability. Can we add that to a future video ?

[@extremeterrain]

2.0Ls are still running strong on the road 5 model years later! I had a 2.0L with over 50,000 miles on it up until this last August with no issues whatsoever. They're a great option and are fun on the road! -Zach

[@g.fortin3228]

@@extremeterrain Thats cool but I'm thinking reliability at over 150k, maybe it's too early for this until some of them get up there. I honestly hope it turns out much better than Ford's ecoboost 4cyl. I'd like to know not to be afraid of a good used one with service records.

[@TheSavage3.6]

@@g.fortin32283.6s can hit well over 600K. They last forever

[@K03sport]

Engine performance/behavior comparison doesn't mean much w/o shots of the tach/speedo. Body/wb differences aside, the whole point of the video was to show engine differences and all we we shown was the outside...poor execution even if the guy was giving his play by play, the video was 11 minutes of nothing.

[@HondaAholic]

In what world does it make sense to try and compare motors when the vehicle body isn't even the same?

[@ramblingrich3544]

ill Repete why I bought a 2 door Rubi Manual with the 3.6 ..why?......So why was the 2.0 created? was the 3.6 lacking in power? NO was it lacking in torque? NO the 2.0 was created to squeeze out a few more MPG Cost Cutting And better EPA and CARB ratings equalling Fewer Fines for FCA and Better MPG at the cost of IMHO engine longevity that's what I made my decision on ...Why was the 2.0 Created? I'm not saying it is not capable after all Ill still WAVE @ a 2.0 lol it seems you need to rev a bit more that's all ... but I wasn't sold on its Reason for Being

[@tinslatee]

2.0L requires 91 octane so any fuel mileage advantage is lost with premium fuel price.

[@extremeterrain]

I'm sure if you *really* want to go through and do the math, I'm sure the cost of gas vs extra MPG does even out a bit. At the end of the day though, my personal 2.0L gets 25 mpg consistently around town and on the highway. I know plenty of other 2.0L owners that are still getting around 21 mpg after adding larger tires as well. The 3.6L is an absolute work horse of a engine that's proven to be reliable, but I wouldn't knock the 2.0L by any means. -Zach

[@jlai3861]

I was not aware of that premium gas requirement when picking up my JL 2.0 , at the time I didn't get to choose a engine the dealer basic went with 2.0 because it has $2000 rebate where v6 had none, if I given a chance I probably would go with v6. anyway I only feed it with 87 so far after 15000km average fuel consumption is around 10.7litter/ 100 km mixed, and it seems pretty quick when pull off from traffic light.. I'm pretty satisfied because prior of buying mine my sister's 3.6 V6 was like 13-14litter/ 100km.

[@brshoggalyboogaly7237]

4.0 I6 weeehaaa

[@Jas.2105]

maybe we compare throttle to throttle on the jeeps since thats all he keeps saying!!!

[@TheTraumarn]

Seriously?!?! If you're going to compare vehicles, compare similar vehicles with similar specs. Any jackhole will know a smaller wheel base will perform better on any technical trail. My old stock 4-banger '90 YJ will outdo my '17 JKU on the same trail based on wheel base alone. C'mon guys, if you're going to make comparisons, make them with vehicles of the similar configuration.

[@faeriefire6]

how do I get my jeep modded through make a wish with you guys?

[@LittleMikeStarCraft]

Give me a 4.0L anyday;

[@mopar21]

Yeah, because that is a current offering.

[@jeepercreepers54]

Bring back the 4.0L and build an American Jeep. No more eurotrash. And yeah, I'm almost 65 ;-)

[@mopar21]

@@jeepercreepers54 they're built in Ohio. Are you against advancement in technology?

[@MoragTong_]

@@jeepercreepers54 Oh you mean that gutless turd engine that had a JAPANESE transmission mated to it? Why were there so many Buick V6 swaps if the 4.0 was such a stellar motor? GTFOH

[@TheSchmed]

I say bring back the 4.7L PowerTech V8 that they had in the Jeep Commander, they can probably get 350Hp & 400 fl lbs of TQ out of that nowadays.

[@derek6947]

Downside of the 2L is it requires premium gas vs. regular gas for the 3.6L. The better gas mileage for the 2L does not cover the higher fuel cost.

[@dono4598]

I have 2.0 '19 Sahara and it does not require premium. The manual says mid range is perfectly fine however if you notice any engine knock to run a tank of premium. Believe me, I would not have purchased the 2.0 if it required premium. I also thought that this was required but its not. Also if it required premium it would indicate this on the fuel door and it doesn't.

[@chanceborgese1795]

Don O what gas mileage do you get

[@dono4598]

@@chanceborgese1795 My last fill-up I was at 22.2. I currently have 1,859 miles so break-in is complete. This is mixed use, city/freeway. I live in Southern California where we are currently enjoying $4.00 plus per gallon, we are not even using the summer blend yet in which case we will probably be at $4.50 plus for regular unleaded. I also keep my auto start stop engaged, not sure how much this helps but at $4.00 per gallon anything helps.

[@eu38th47]

a little bit - holy shit!...

[@wsigona]

Mopar 2 inch lift, 285 75 17 MT tires, full skid plates, 4.10 gears and a set of steel bumpers with a Warn XD8000 winch. Done and will be a good daily driver and will do and trail you want.

[@wesliggett2454]

If my jku breaks. I’ll get another jku. The jls are just not appealing to me at all. I don’t need a 35k computer.

[@jeremyzhang2504]

Why compare engines off-road... just throw 35s on them assuming both have the same gearing and see which one can drive up a mountain better

[@bartoszri]

sadly is no 3l diesel in 3d (short) wrangler

[@avnmech]

You are comparing a much lighter two-door to a much heavier four-door. They're totally different vehicles so there's really no comparison, other than the fact that they both wear a Jeep name plate and they both have the Wrangler name and they're both jl models well once a jlu that looks like a Sahara and one looks like a jl Sport two-door so they're really different. They're both different spring rates, body weight and several other things. No of you had to Sport JLs, both 2dr, or 4dr with a 2.0, and a 3.6 then we'd be able to compare. when attempting to do a comparison on anything you should only have one variable if you're indeed only testing one variable but if you're testing multiple variables then you have a test that would be extremely difficult to do because the more variables you do the lack of control you have on the test this is taught and basic high school science.

[@TheSchmed]

3.6 is 280HP