Joan Collins in Court - Alexis versus Random House - FIGHT!

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The Bad Tempered Brit

The Bad Tempered Brit

Күн бұрын

This came out slightly narrow looking (even for 4:3 ratio), so, if you can, use the 'Stretch' option on your TV to widen the picture a little, it will be easier to watch ;-). Fascinating in court action & testimony by the BBC from New York in 1996. Even if you're not a fan, the testimony is really interesting & in some parts hilarious. watch out for the lady with grey hair; and don't miss Joan's reactions at the end!

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@sanita474
@sanita474 8 жыл бұрын
I am glad that Joan won at the end, good work Alexis!!
@BlytheWorld1972
@BlytheWorld1972 3 жыл бұрын
So glad Joan won Random house should have been really pleased to have such an amazing writer on their books
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
the problem is not joan but the right of smaller authors by collins winnning she helped smaller more unknown authors
@Jeeves574
@Jeeves574 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see she finally started to channel Alexis for the third round on the witness stand around 43:00
@DMS5511
@DMS5511 8 жыл бұрын
I loved watching this!!!!
@Charlottemadeleinec
@Charlottemadeleinec 12 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to get to see this!
@oliviatocali
@oliviatocali 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
It is an indictment of the justice system in the US that the judge collides with witnesses to ridicule and humiliate Joan and her work (e.g. comments alluding to the fantastical elements of the novel and their lack of familiarity with Monaco). However the jury showed their integrity by seeing through that. Joan is familiar with Monaco.
@user-uu7sk8bz5l
@user-uu7sk8bz5l 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful .I am really happy for You Miss.Joan Collins
@Authorfan
@Authorfan 12 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you.
@zkacanic
@zkacanic 11 жыл бұрын
thanx for this!! Cheers from Croatia! Z
@Ciclopea2
@Ciclopea2 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot about this, so good and inspirational to revisit, the shift she was forced to make in order to win the case, proving that she was both a sweetheart and a great actress, she had to channel Alexis once again to put a stop to the slander she had to put up with, the difference was like night and day, she went from the very sweet and down to earth Joan, to the fabulous, confident and strong Alexis, in a way those are qualities she already possessed, she just needed Alexis to give her that much needed confidence boost. She was so amazing on that last day on court, what a joy to watch after watching her being humiliated by those lawyers on previous days. I love Joan very much, i've enjoyed her talent and beauty all my life and she'll always have a piece of my heart, what an unforgettable fabulous woman
@cheesecakebythomas7766
@cheesecakebythomas7766 2 жыл бұрын
This was a big win
@amandaj7403
@amandaj7403 5 жыл бұрын
Came here after watching the Urban myths episode on Sky arts, they got it spot on.
@liamn.watson4867
@liamn.watson4867 5 жыл бұрын
They sure did. I liked it a lot too.
@deannabarker584
@deannabarker584 3 жыл бұрын
Glad she won. The lawyer for Random House who said, " don't you have any shame." Someone needs to ask him that .
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
remember he is a lawyer he lies for a living
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@edgartriay8485
@edgartriay8485 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I must have had my head in an earth hole at the time of the trial. I missed it. Ok, imma go kick myself now!
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
When you pay an upfront fee, you take a risk, I.e. that you may not like the book. She delivered it and I think that by then they believed that the market was saturated and they would have preferred not to publish. Tough. The contract was the contract. The fact that the style might have not been to the editors taste doesn’t mean it breached the contract.
@paulyarrow9857
@paulyarrow9857 Ай бұрын
"Don't you have any shame!!!"
@dsdmugley7385
@dsdmugley7385 10 жыл бұрын
Lucianne Goldberg is hilarious.
@nonenoneonenonenone
@nonenoneonenonenone 5 жыл бұрын
The attorney for Joan Collins is gorgeous. I can see how Joni Evans and the other editor tried to bully her, rather than appreciate her European culture.
@nonenoneonenonenone
@nonenoneonenonenone 5 жыл бұрын
The lawyer for Random House totally misrepresents the role of the editor. They are clearly in the wrong here.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 5 жыл бұрын
I've always been a massive fan of Joan, but she did admit what she submitted wasn't great & I have read all of Joan's books & although I like having them on my bookshelf, they're nothing to 'write' home about ;-)
@Inyourlap
@Inyourlap 4 жыл бұрын
She really was throwing Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Colby Ryan Colby realness here...
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice to hear Alexis get a full name check, although I think you missed out another Colby, nobody's perfect ;-).
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
only at the end which helped her remember alexis is a role the real collins as a person is more vunerable than the fictional alexis
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 8 жыл бұрын
Joni Evans reminds me of Glenn Close
@mahuikaanderson4049
@mahuikaanderson4049 6 жыл бұрын
Dame Joan should have been more like Alexis, who wouldn't have suffered what the defence lawyers did. Alexis wouldn't have let them get away with the things they said. But I'm happy that she won the case.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 6 жыл бұрын
Mahuika Anderson I know what you mean, I've thought that, and it would have been great fun to watch, but, the jury may have gone against her, thinking she was nasty or acting, so being herself was the best bet and as you see, she's actually quite a softy 😘
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
joan collins is not alexis the real collins is more vunerable and nicer than alexis collins is an actress alexis is a role she played-true enough alexis was her greatest role but the real collins is more vunerable and less evil than alexis
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 2 жыл бұрын
Alexis doesn’t live in a world of unscripted dialogue. Everything Alexis said was designed to counter what the writers had designed the other character to say to her.
@camileferrari5099
@camileferrari5099 5 жыл бұрын
at 10:00 Jonnie Evans strangely looks a lot like Sammy Jo...a much older Sammy Jo.
@gracenurse3365
@gracenurse3365 2 жыл бұрын
So the manuscript was “old fashioned and melodramatic.” What else would they expect from an aging soap star like Joan Collins??
@ivorytower99
@ivorytower99 11 жыл бұрын
That was a fun video! Of course she won--whether she was right or wrong. And yet, she's still the Queen!
@lol365
@lol365 8 жыл бұрын
A few things: 1. Lucianne Goldberg, you're fabulous. Everyone needs to grab a martini with this woman. 2. When Joan was herself on the stand, she withered. When Joan played Alexis, she triumphed, the jury loved the 'Alexis' Joan Collins.
@johnboy32064
@johnboy32064 3 жыл бұрын
Lucianne Goldberg is a human piece of shit. What are you talking about? She’s a corrupt political hack who should be in jail.
@lol365
@lol365 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnboy32064 Watch her testimony - political hack or not, she's hilarious on the stand.
@johnboy32064
@johnboy32064 3 жыл бұрын
@@lol365 I watched it. She was snarky and mildly funny for 5 seconds then reprimanded by the judge. If that’s hilarious to you, great. I wouldn’t classify it as a master class in stand up.
@BoraBoraSharkBoy
@BoraBoraSharkBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Joni Evans has a *Krystlesque* hair.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 4 жыл бұрын
Any unusual & notable hair, makeup or clothes from the super soaps became popular at the time, so it's quite possible she said to her hair dresser, "Give me a Crystal!" ;-)
@BlytheWorld1972
@BlytheWorld1972 6 жыл бұрын
Lucianne Goldberg she had a hair problem i cant even tell you about lol
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
collins wears a wig but she herself admits it- nothing wrong with that
@BlytheWorld1972
@BlytheWorld1972 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith-zh1bt wow really ...
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious, was that manuscript the same as the one that was eventually published? These are not books that interest me, but that doesn’t mean they won’t meet the expectations of those who like such stories. E.g. those who read many other similar titles. Bottom line, you can tell Joan is truthful.
@Owlzindabarn
@Owlzindabarn 2 жыл бұрын
Lucianne Goldberg was hilarious.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed she was.
@paulyarrow9857
@paulyarrow9857 Ай бұрын
If the Random house publishers are not impressed with the transcript. Then Joan should have taken the transcript elsewhere.
@material___
@material___ 8 ай бұрын
Ouuu!!!! She was causing chaos on the final day in that blue suit! Dame Joan didn’t give no fucks
@mannyespinola
@mannyespinola 2 жыл бұрын
Give em hell Joan!
@GK-up6xz
@GK-up6xz 2 ай бұрын
Such a nicer time in the US....
@haranoe
@haranoe 3 жыл бұрын
In most of the video she looks and acts exactly as in one 'Dynasty' set: then, having heard the verdict, and starting to beam out, you notice she was never filmed with such a genuine expression in her eyes. As for Random House, you get WHAT you pay for... no matter the price LOL.
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
But they only paid a third to her They still owe her money it seems
@haranoe
@haranoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnkean6852 Good for them, then LOL.
@PandaPowerable
@PandaPowerable 9 жыл бұрын
Would have been more fun with Judge Judy! :)
@gizzycatcat6468
@gizzycatcat6468 9 жыл бұрын
+Malorey YES!!!!!!!!!!!
@jackanthony976
@jackanthony976 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Judge Judy is that she doesn't let anybody recite more than one sentence....Judge Judy will cut you off in mid sentence and call you a moron if you don't answer the question the way she expects you too. The trial would have been all about Judge Judy.
@TressBraga
@TressBraga 5 жыл бұрын
Lucianne Goldberg is a legend in the publishing industry, caused the downfall of Bill Clinton by encouraging Linda Tripp to record Monica Lewinsky, and is a Republican. Her son - Jonah Goldberg - is a conservative journalist for the National Review and Los Angeles Times.
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
interesting
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
Low life’s.
@Owlzindabarn
@Owlzindabarn 2 жыл бұрын
@@reasonrestored9116 Correct. The Clintons were indeed low life's (sic).
@BoraBoraSharkBoy
@BoraBoraSharkBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Her 2nd novel *Desire, love, hate* was a turkey so Random House wanted to dump her and used the "subpar" manuscript as a smoke screen. Basically this was a trial about whether a book is good or bad which is a question of each and every's personal taste.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 4 жыл бұрын
Love, Desire & Hate, wasn't that bad as far as I remember & it's still on my bookshelves! Joan was right. if they thought it was that poor, they should've offered more help, in the end it only made them look bad & they lost a money spinner, a lesson learned for the publishing industry.
@BoraBoraSharkBoy
@BoraBoraSharkBoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebadtemperedbrit I don't want to bag her but I for one was puzzled how weak DLH was in light of her debut Prime Time. It has been rumoured that it was her sister Jackie who actually wrote Prime Time but that doesn't ring true to me. Judging how resentful Jackie was towards Joan's literary aspirations.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoraBoraSharkBoy I'm sorry I don't know the term 'bag her' & just to note it's LDH not DLH. I don't know anything about internal family rivalries, but as Jackie's estimated net worth was $180 million, I'm not sure why she'd be resentful, also I do know that other than normal family tiffs, the sisters loved each other very much. It's quite possible Jackie helped with the first book, but more than that, no. This is the story, no more, no less, Joan's great, but she's not a great author & she got in too deep & it went a bit wrong - that's it!
@BoraBoraSharkBoy
@BoraBoraSharkBoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebadtemperedbrit (Sh!t)bagging someone is quite bad and you're right it's Love, Desire, Hate, not DHL. I just renembered it's 3 and in my head Desire came before Love which could turn to Hate. Jackie reportedly made a remark of Joan's lesser sales compared to her own but dunno how serious that was. Maybe just sisterly banter.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoraBoraSharkBoy I'm familiar with most modern idioms, but that one's just passed me by ;-). Jackie & Joan are Brits don't forget & so making sarcastic, bitchy comments is just an everyday occurrence, if you're that sort of Brit, the nastier the comment, the more clever & funny it's regarded. I have all Joans books, & they're all just a bit of fluff & not to be taken seriously, so I think the big losers here were the publishers for losing their sense of humour & paying Joan too much in the first place!!
@ericfreeman273
@ericfreeman273 9 ай бұрын
Way ago Alexis!
@Erik-vw8fc
@Erik-vw8fc 6 жыл бұрын
She rules. My mother is similar. You have to realize she is human. She is classy and judged. Very Hollywood. Haha. She needed a hug privately. Hehe. Maybe a mint?
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
*GREAT LADY COLLINS WON* QUITE RIGHT she's not Jane Austin she's _Joan Collins_ for goodness sake
@user-od5pz6im9s
@user-od5pz6im9s 2 жыл бұрын
what was she sued for ?
@paulyarrow9857
@paulyarrow9857 Ай бұрын
Don't be fooled by the British accent!!!
@BillKing8888
@BillKing8888 6 жыл бұрын
Joni Evans is a terrible witness!
@gizzycatcat6468
@gizzycatcat6468 9 жыл бұрын
I hope Joan won. Alexis would.
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
collins is not alexis but her winning was a win for more smaller authors
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
She did
@celinelehmkuhl6071
@celinelehmkuhl6071 11 жыл бұрын
Was that real?! I love Joan!!!! Great and powerful women!!!!! But is that real??!! Please tell me!!
@raecoyote
@raecoyote 7 жыл бұрын
Celine Lehmkuhl yes
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
The editor seems to struggle with 5he English language. She is inarticulate. The prosecutor has to ask her to explain when she uses words like ‘primitive’! The description she then gives makes no sense.
@nwlman
@nwlman 9 жыл бұрын
Her wig is a nightmare she looked worn out here poor Alexis
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
at least joan collins tells the truth that she wears a wig that is more true than many plastic hollywood actresses
@1978TVP
@1978TVP 7 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, I met with opinions from various sources that the whole process was simply setup, and nothing but a pathetic act between the publisher and the author of manuscript, on intende to achieve the sole purpose, the mega profit of the book sales distribution to be so called another bestseller.
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 7 жыл бұрын
Are you looking for the phrase "Publicity Stunt?" Well I suppose nothing's impossible, but to go to court to promote a book, would be crazy, if anyone admitted what they were doing they would all end up in jail!!
@1978TVP
@1978TVP 7 жыл бұрын
So this can be considered as a precedental freak that could only go without Alexis consequences. And no one dared to take that step anymore.....
@miriammizrachi
@miriammizrachi 5 жыл бұрын
Lllllllllllllkkkll loo
@matgostyles653
@matgostyles653 5 жыл бұрын
Except the books were never released.
@johnsmith-zh1bt
@johnsmith-zh1bt 3 жыл бұрын
yeah true publicity is publicity in this age 2021 you really dont know what is true or not dont believe anything on youtube
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