WTF Happened to A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010)?

[@CommodoreFloopjack78]

Yes, the final script(s) is trash, yes, a number of the cast members couldn't act their way out of a paper bag and yes, it often feels more like a music video than a feature-length film, but I really feel Jackie Earle Haley put his all into Freddy and it really shows. Much respect.

[@MikeC_518]

Go watch Halloween Kills again and pump up Halloween Ends for the clown Horror casuals...

[@edboymovies]

I thought Roonie Mara did good for what the film was.

[@CommodoreFloopjack78]

@@edboymovies She wasn't bad at all, but the other kids in the film had all the charisma of drywall.

[@huntersouth643]

They all did good and the script might not what people wanted but there are still chances to improve and do more with the remake

[@JackAustin613]

@@edboymovies “ you have no idea what I’ve seen” is probably the worst line delivery I’ve ever heard. It’s like the room bad

[@r4umediaentertainment831]

Unrelated side note: The fact that Jackie Earl Hayley was never signed on to play Cleetus Cassidy/Carnage in the MCU is (further) proof that the people behind the Venom movies have no clue what they’re doing.

[@urdadzack8631]

he would’ve been a GREAT Cletus

[@n.b.l.5709]

Dude from West side Story wouldve Been great too

[@stevenbacon-cheddar9914]

This is 100% true!

[@RvnWolf]

right and Wrong, Woody was a great actor, but the writing direction for that film was kinda on the lower end than the first film.

[@B3AROTAN]

... dumb take

[@EdgedShadow]

I honestly think Jackie Earl Haley did as good a job as possible trying to fill Robert Englund's shoes.

[@bubbytumby8509]

he wasn't scary or edgy. he was too soft spoken

[@ETH85]

He didn't though! really bad job ! They shouldn't of even bothered making it without Robert Englund..

[@-WolfMan-]

The problem with Remakes is the Inescapable Vice of COMPARISON Let's Just Face It - as long as Fans of the ORIGINAL still Live & Breathe, you're Almost ALWAYS going to run into Severe Criticisms and the Repellent Attitudes of "...but it's not the same guy"

[@tyrantking9362]

Jackie is an incredible actor. He was probably the best part of the movie honestly.

[@dianaberlin4767]

No. 😂 what a loser

[@Maehedrose]

Yeah, I'd really wanted them to go with the 'Freddy was innocent' angle but they lacked the balls to see it through. I think it would have done such a great job of tying the loose end of why Freddy is allowed to come back as this powerful, vengeful, spirit. I suffer from chronic insomnia, so I've experienced micro-naps many times. Due to this, I was glad to see them in the show but it felt like they were poorly utilized.

[@dominiquejones3805]

They had it but backtracked. 2 me that gave more reason

[@josephgodwin9653]

I think that would make more sense if he only wanted to kill the parents. Not to say it wouldn't be a good twist, but I don't think I want Freddy to sympathetic qualities. Most so called "psychos" in real life actually do. I actually like that Freddy is just simply evil.

[@kendane2001]

Im in agreement with you. I alway’s felt Freddy was never motivated by vengeance. He got A sadistic thrill out of hurting kids throughout his life, and death did not curtail his appetite.@@josephgodwin9653

[@RedSplinter36]

Wholeheartedly agree! The innocent angle really made so much sense and then they backtracked hard... it would have made this particular iteration unique!

[@timsimpson6019]

I think him being innocent makes him less scary and less evil. Freddy is evil. He was bad before being burned, I like that.

[@screamrad218]

I love how they made Freddy very dark and serious. It was a change of pace that I always wanted for the character.

[@Rico401Prov]

Yes I enjoyed his take on the character more than the original actor’s

[@Re.T986]

I think they effed up bad.

[@ksauerrr]

I disagree. Englunds Freddy was in his time a change of pace in contrast to standards like Michael Myers or Jason Vorhees. He actually spoke and had a lot to say (BITCH!), which was a breath of fresh air back then in horror genre. But also what was important was his humor when he toyed with his victims. Very dark Freddy in the remake started looking more like Michael or Jason that spoke. That said I did like Jackie Earle Haley's work on this film - he was legitimately scarry as Freddy.

[@RvnWolf]

They turned from a child killer into a child toucher, they did worse writing him.

[@edz8067]

But since there are 6 movies where freddy isn't that, makes that you just don't get the freddy character. Just like the producers of the 2010 version. If you don't get it, don't force your own views into it. Freddy is over the top fun.

[@KAZUNARl]

I was a fan of the original films… watching the remake just didn’t feel right… no one can replace robert englund as freddy

[@Biggjuggs333]

Same with Robo cop

[@jessedub]

And Englund was young enough that he definitely could have played Freddy

[@07foxmulder]

Let’s be serious. Haley’s portrayal of Freddy was better than England’s in everything after 3 (except New Nightmare). Robert Shaye and friends turned Freddy into a cringe goofball because it was easier to market a pop-culture MTV killer as opposed to Craven’s original, darker character. The remake had a lot of problems but recasting Freddy definitely wasn’t one of them.

[@33dbz]

Same with pinhead

[@andrewquick4176]

EVERY CHARACTER CAN BE RECAST

[@Drp_br_]

“Jackie Earl Hayley did what he could with the role” Thank you! Finally someone who can see that Jackie wasn’t actually terrible in the role. He had so much potential but the writing screwed him over

[@irishjoe9195]

Agreed

[@FookMi69]

If he had a better script to work with, I’m convinced he could make even Robert Englund run for his money.

[@marywise7661]

i agree mr haley did good but the writing was horrible

[@emilymeza9241]

Saw him in the show Preacher n his acting amazing!!💯

[@Runforestrun]

He was fine as Freddy. Just following Englund was going to be almost impossible for anyone.

[@Edgeof666]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead and The Hills Have Eyes were all pretty excellent remakes.

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

Friday the 13th as well.

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

I will never understand the fandom for the new Hills Have Eyes. And I saw the original years after I saw the remake.

[@OG_Joey_]

@@Patrick-pc3vq😢

[@dominiquejones3805]

Last House On The Left,Friday The 13th& evil Dead

[@pdmore123]

Evil dead 2013 also

[@gellerbingsgaming]

When I heard this remake was being made, I was adamant I wouldn't watch it but I gave in. Turns out when I watched it as a movie in its own right rather than trying to compare it, I actually enjoyed it and have watched it many more times since then.

[@icemav5740]

I really liked Jackie Earl Haley’s Freddie tbh. I loved the darker version of the character and how he actually looked like he was burned alive. Jackie did an excellent job and he was by far the best part of the movie

[@izzy3166]

No thanks. Robert ENGLUND for life!!

[@morganreichel4679]

Yes. Yes!! I have been saying this for years!

[@hackingenious7]

@@izzy3166god you boomer horror fans can’t give anything else a chance

[@kaitlynfesperman3718]

@@izzy3166you can have a favorite version and still acknowledge the other actor also did a good job trying to fill the roll 🥴

[@izzy3166]

@@kaitlynfesperman3718 lol. The only version, is the best version, ROBERT ENGLUND….

[@jeffk.9075]

The person who introduced micronaps into the franchise was Wes Craven. He just didn't name them. Nancy had a micronap in the original series when she dreamt of the Freddyphone. But the micronap was there in the original.

[@BearPawSwipe]

It didn't need to be named in the originals because we understood the concept inherently based on our own experience & the movie didn't treat us like we are stupid who need everything spelled out to pad a scene imo.

[@Stigmatix666]

He used the word "micronap" in the script to describe that very scene

[@jeffk.9075]

@@Stigmatix666 awesome, didn't know that.

[@ArtofLunatik]

this movie made me take several micronaps

[@Stigmatix666]

@@ArtofLunatik You are not alone

[@360.Tapestry]

it was definitely a bad call to go with a "realistic" burn victim look for freddy. he needed a more iconic look. jackie earle haley actually has a pretty distinctive face that could've played very well with the prosthetics. but instead, they ended up covering up all his distinguishing features

[@Abdullahalsarraf]

This👏🏻

[@AnxietyBrainz00]

I would say they should've decided to keep what they dropped first cause what we got was half assed as whatever they made the first time

[@jkcrawl]

I don't know why they modeled it after burn victims anyways. Remake Freddy looked like a make-a-wish kid with grafted skin, which isn't what Freddy would look like. He'd look like someone who was in the process of burning, melty skin and more open burn wounds. I'd argue the original accomplished a more realistic, thought out look.

[@360.Tapestry]

@@jkcrawl you bring up a great point: it's not like his burns had any time to heal - he died of his burns

[@jkcrawl]

@@360.Tapestry Exactly, and he would've been dead before he was crispy black. I think the best looking Freddy was part 2, but that's just my opinion

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

I agree with most of the other comments here, that Haley was the best part of the film. He’s a great actor, and I think his commitment to the roles he gets is admirable. It’s just a shame that the movie wasn’t as good as it should have been, through no fault of his own. He was great as Freddy, great as Rorschach, and I forget the character’s name from the movie “Little Children”, but he was great there, too (even though his character was despicable). He’s got a lot of talent, and I’d love to see him in more things.

[@robd1329]

He sure was No Robert Englund

[@elolife1375]

@@robd1329 yeah... the goofy one sure...

[@popeye5274]

Kelly Lee… Bad News News Bears.

[@jackcandy8450]

He was in shutter island for like 5 minutes

[@ahsokatano3310]

Yeap, he was great as Freddy

[@CaptainEyebrowz]

That twist about him being innocent would’ve been dope! Jackie Earl is actually a solid actor when given some substance. He was awesome in Watchmen, and I liked his as Freddy !

[@CaptainEyebrowz]

If you wanna see him portray an actual creep and show some range in his acting, watch the movie “Little Children”. Great film !

[@Dieci-9]

I remember going to watch this at a cinema in my area and coming out of it thinking that it was fine. It wasn't anything groundbreaking but definitely wasn't as bad as some people made it out to be.

[@milesmorra5910]

You just can't satisfy peoples lust for nostalgia. Even if the film was perfect everyone would of complained anyways.

[@pdmore123]

Its trash

[@vsmolvmetal6565]

@@pdmore123you literally proved their point, good job, want a treat?

[@livefromthemotherland]

Facts. It was decent. Not something bad enough to rave and rant about

[@Archerillian]

The idea of Freddy being an innocent man that the children falsley accused sounds like an interesting concept on paper, but I'm certain that one of the people in the studio read the script and thought, "we shouldn't give the impression that parents should be skeptical about their kids accusing suspected pedophiles! We don't want a PR disaster!" It was a ballsy idea, and it potentially could've been a PR disaster if it ever went through, but we'll never know.

[@johnnymarin5035]

It's a horror movie. They're supposed to deal with uncomfortable subject matter.

[@demonteprice5870]

They could've also spun it in such a way that the kids told the truth but Freddy was innocent; the kids said someone was doing something to them at school, but they don't tell the parents who, and the parent's find cuts and claw slashes on them and kill Freddy since c'mon he uses a homemade claw glove for garden sheering. Then someone who worked at the preschool mysteriously dies years later, like a teacher or a custodian, and it makes the kids remember their connection and puts them on alert and the dreams start from there (instead of it being like some cloudy mystery and it's not quite certain why none of those characters remember this at all like now it's a main plot point) and then through the string of deaths related to the kids specifically from the preschool the kids unravel the mystery; the person who really molested the kids was someone else at the school who would take them to Freddy's room in the boiler and used his glove, he kills him first for framing him, and then Freddy kills the now grown-up kids for not defending him.

[@quonjulio1014]

@@demonteprice5870nah he actually did do the crimes… they figured it out when they found proof in the preschool

[@noemitamas4066]

@@demonteprice5870 I think it could have been an interesting idea if the real perpetrator was in the mob that killed Freddy, an authority figure maybe even one of the parents, and he manages to frame Freddy exactly because the kids' testimonies aren't investigated properly.

[@mikesshowcase8513]

@@noemitamas4066 I agree!! They could have avoided the PR disaster with this plot device

[@SirSmoldham]

This is so hard for me. I was privileged to work with Jackie Earle Haley during his in-between time after being a child star up to his first Oscar nomination. His roles in many genre projects after that gave me much joy. My only issue with this remake is not an issue at all. I admired the serious, more frightening take. I like to imagine this as big a hit as the original somewhere in the multiverse.

[@WheresKdot]

The problem was the story and the execution. The changes they made weren’t great and the quick twitchy cgi when things are supposed to be scary was just an annoyance.

[@187mrsmith]

This sounds too good to be true On top of your whole catalog is Amazon women lol smh

[@screamrad218]

Same here. I love the dark and serious take to this Nightmare film. That’s how Freddy should be presented.

[@JohnnyFromVirginia]

@@screamrad218 right? He’s become a parody of himself, they needed to take a different direction with him.

[@Cameroon573]

@@screamrad218 bruh the original is pretty dark and serious

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

I always loved that idea, taken from The McMartin trial, I don't know why they didn't do that!! Imagine, finding out at the last act that Freddy was innocent and it was your mom that coached you into lying when you were a child? Act 3 would have had Nancy sympathizing with Freddy while protecting her guilty mother from his wraith. Of course, in the end, Freddy gets his revenge and disappears...or does he?

[@Stigmatix666]

Horribly dumb idea

[@FrameRage]

It's sad that it didn't come out well in the finished product, but I actually really enjoyed the concept of micro-sleeps being introduced. Like you have to stay awake to avoid him but eventually you start having micro-sleeps for like a second or 2 and that's when he can get you. Really interesting evolution of the freddy idea.

[@antimaxsmacks]

This was already present in previous NOES films, though. They would nod-off for a second and that's when it would happen.

[@robthedude4861]

What separated Freddy from the rest was his sense of humor and love of fuckin with his victims before eventually killing them. The remake seemed to miss that entirely

[@DracoMeteor91]

that what mades it so good. more gritty and real.

[@robthedude4861]

@@DracoMeteor91 Said no one ever lol

[@WAProdthejohman]

The tone and atmosphere of this film is all over the place, sometimes it looks like a music video sometimes it looks like a dark thriller, that and the script killed the remake

[@RedSiegfried]

This is what happens when you allow studio execs in a boardroom and focus groups to write, direct and edit your film. They'll never learn. Quality film-making always shows through in the end, and art by committee always is revealed for the product it is.

[@ArtofLunatik]

shits awful, and boring. i remember fallin asleep watching it lol, the irony.

[@leejones3061]

Well it does say in the video parts of 3 scripts where combined to make this mess

[@Charles12]

ironically enough, the director of the remake did music videos before doing the movie, and hasn't made another since

[@pureluck8767]

Always listen to the fans first they’re the ones to buy movie tickets to your movie! They need to remember that.

[@thecunninlynguist]

They really could've done something with this...but they decided to chicken out. The notion that Freddy could've been innocent is an interesting angle. It was implied in the OG's he was a kid diddler, but straight up telling us is lazy. However, beyond that..the film suffers from that god awful CGI version of the iconic Freddy coming through the wall. A spandex wall is scarier than whatever they tried to pull with that scene. But my absolute biggest gripe (outside of the bland acting, minus JEH) is the film was too dark. I get they were trying to set a mood, but jesus, those scenes needed lighting, badly.

[@boomstickcritique902]

Well by straight up telling us that means the movie is going to need truly excellent writing in order to pull off a hardcore child molestation story. If you truly go with the molestation subtext full force then you need to truly make Freddy evil and scary not just constant jump scares he should be playing with the teens psychologically using the fact he abused them to control and manipulate them until the climax when one kid takes the power back from him. That also means if we are to truly hate Freddy then you need to make us truly care for the teens and the new Nancy which means we need to see how the abuse truly affected their lives and day to day world the movie wanted to have it both ways they made a grosser darker Freddy but tried to also make him fun at the same time you can't do that it causes him to come off dull in the movie. The filmmakers wanted it both ways a meaner darker Freddy and story but still wanted a standard slasher movie it doesn't mesh.

[@MrNegativecreep07]

Freddy's makeup looked like melted cheese as well. Yes they may have based it on actual burn victims, but it's just not as effective

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@MrNegativecreep07 The problem with the makeup is he isn't able to portray emotions properly he has no lips and cant express emotion with his face so it looks blander overall.

[@lutherheggs451]

It literally originally said that he was a pedo in the original movie, New Line told them they couldn't flat out say it so the script was changed just to heavily hint at it. But he was always a pedo.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@lutherheggs451 You misunderstand he's not saying he cares Freddy is a pedo he's saying it works better as subtext instead of being the entire plot.

[@brandonspain12345]

The 2010 remake still doesn't hold up after 12 years later. It lacked any imagination or creativity and failed to capture the magic, and tone of the original. It also doesn't make sense on why they felt making Freddy's face too real would discuss audiences. He's a burned victim, how can you make him less gross besides part 6's makeup. Go crazy with the design. Make a Part 7 Jason for Freddy. More torn, blacken tattered clothes, thin bony face like Part 2, bloodshot eyes, and more bones revealing through his face. It was a movie nobody wanted to make, the director turned the offer down twice but Michael Bay told him to direct because it could led him more opportunities. IT DIDN'T and showed the director didn't had any heart or passion on the project. I remember hearing back in 2015 they were trying to remake Freddy again. It seems like Hollywood hasn't learned their lesson.

[@thatfishguy4991]

Now they’re planning a whole fucking trilogy remake of The Exorcist. They need to stop remakes, especially of films that are fine as is and didn’t suffer because of budget issues or handsy studio execs.

[@26michaeluk]

@@thatfishguy4991 what? The Exorcist is the greatest horror of all time and they're going to remake it?

[@andrejturner]

We need new horror villains. That simple shit like jeepers creepers was golden. Hills have eyes.

[@pureluck8767]

@@thatfishguy4991 don’t worry they will be sure to destroy it really badly

[@wangson]

The Dawn of the Dead remake was just fantastic and utterly captivating in my opinion. I saw it in a very packed theatre in South Korea and the crowd there ate it up!

[@snazzybean]

One of my favorite openings to any movie, ever. Then amazing credits. The rest of the film was great too, but the thrill of the opening & credits will always be there, no matter how many times I watch it.

[@Robert-nu4vc]

The Dawn renake is good for what it is, but the original is better. The idea of zombies running full speed and even faster than humans is ridiculous. I didn't like that at all.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

​@@Robert-nu4vc the WALKING DEAD explained that FRESH ZOMBIES still have muscle control and their bodies aren't decayed , eventually they'd be slow & shambling

[@andrewblanchard2398]

​@@Robert-nu4vc without feeling pain you can push your body beyond it's limits THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH RENARD was that way he had emotions but he couldn't feel anything

[@_baller]

The original face and makeup was just perfect

[@Justmyhandle]

Part of the problem in my opinion was the overabundance of CGI over practical effects. Not that CGI is inherently inferior by any means, I'm not a "practicality purist". But the original Elm Street pioneered some seriously impressive effects for its time. Tina's death scene was particularly a masterwork of illusion, as the crew actually built a rotating bedroom set with everything sealed to the floor in order to sell the image of her levitating. Similar tactics were used for Glen's death with the blood geyser. Even more admirable was how something so advanced and painstakingly constructed was created in the time the production had on such a small budget. Overall, the remake's approach to their effects was never going to match that end-result. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6DOlomta9GXeqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpXIeJmum8yijac

[@KevinMuller5]

When the movie went on its on merit, I didn't think it was terrible. That one line, "the human brain survives for 7 minutes. That means we have some time to play," still is chilling. The micro naps idea was cool. The rest of the movie was a bad recreation of the original. I liked what Jackie brought to the role.

[@legofirefighter]

I think this film had potential, but suffered a bit too much from studio interference. There were a few reboots from this time that had people who loved and respected the source material, but the studio wanted something to make money, not tell a story. Like the thing reboot (prequel) could have had great practical effects, but they were covered up with CGI.

[@JediMindTrix420]

I would love to see the Thing prequel,minus all of the cgi. It’s said to have been made. I think it would enhance the film and after eleven years,what would it hurt.

[@bnbcraft6666]

I liked the texas chainsaw massacre and the hills have eyes reboots, hell I even liked the Friday the 13th reboot

[@JohnnyFromVirginia]

@@bnbcraft6666 I liked all of those reboots as well. I thought they took an interesting turn with The Leprechaun reboot as well but I completely understand why it didn’t take for most people. Evil Dead and Blair Witch though???

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@bnbcraft6666 I like all of these reboots as well. Sometimes it works, but not too often.

[@nikrixxx6338]

I'm a huge Nightmare on Elm Street fan so it was really hard for me to not be a snob about the remake lol. I was super critical but then decided to stop being a Karen about it and just enjoy the ride and nostalgia. I thought Jackie did a great job as Freddy. He really did care and it showed.

[@zackcash4941]

Mk9 was a great videogame that came out after the film. Freddy was one of the many characters and playing it is what possessed me to watch the original

[@TheMovieBuff96]

I'll die on the hill that Jackie Earle Haley's Freddy was the best part of the movie. The dark take on the character worked, but the flat writing, dull characters and bad CGI still made for a bad movie.

[@tapset]

It probably was the best part seeing as the movie sucked

[@sjbrooksy45]

The dream sequences are bad. Dreams can seem real but are always off somehow when thinking back. Should have done all practical effects.

[@zackkelley6337]

Fully agree I'll die on that hill with you

[@istartedajoke1704]

Aaaanndd you'll die alone on that hill.......lol jk

[@mattjohnson3rd3]

I totally agree. I love the grim step back from horror comedy and introduced a darker take.

[@jellyglonut744]

I actually really enjoyed this remake despite some of the holes in the plot. The opening scene is what really drew me in.

[@aselliofacchio]

The opening scene is so bad

[@Sir-Cletus]

They also tried to redo Nancy when there is only only one Nancy. Plus Englund had charisma.

[@jellyglonut744]

@@pinealdreams1064 and then there’s people like you who HAVE to let people you disagree with know that THEY must have bad taste because YOU think the movie was bad. I swear there’s more people in these comments sections that act more like Lord friggin Farquhar than they realize.

[@dyteriaswinson8370]

I didn't have a problem with him he actually did a pretty good job. The movie could've been little bit better but I like serious Freddy

[@N0T_HIM]

@@dyteriaswinson8370 i do aswell

[@CthulhuBuster]

Even thinking back to when the film first hi theaters: Jackie Earl Haley was a good choice for the role of Freddy Krueger. Nobody denies that point. The problem was that, as was mentioned, it mostly felt like a generic pretender when it had the potential to be something better. When your special effects are getting their asses kicked by a sheet of rubber and a rotating room from over 25 years ago, you know they screwed the pooch on that one.

[@CthulhuBuster]

@@cuylshepherdton7437 You get the point. Some innovative practical effects and good storytelling kicked the crap out of the remake that never needed to be made in the first place.

[@user-vm1rr6gx9v]

He’s tiny!!! Mini Freddy. Terrible choice

[@ssjgotenks2009]

sorry but am proing you worng jakcie erial sucked in the role

[@5koby4]

@@ssjgotenks2009 Nah mate you're worng.

[@WinterMix-es1gd]

he was too little to play Freddy ... most of the Victims he killed were Taller then him.. so that may have been one of the reasons, he was not that intimidating like Robert England was.

[@CornerstoneMinistry316]

Freddy Krueger is one of those characters you can't remake. Robert England was so good in the role there's no going back

[@MrRobjs83]

100% Robert England is and will always be Freddy and can't be substituted. That's why I didn't watch this movie and might not ever watch it.

[@Godzillafan1980]

​@@MrRobjs83 you didn't miss much

[@MrCarpen7er]

England is a country. It´s *Englund.

[@MrCarpen7er]

@@MrRobjs83 Another idiot...

[@The_Texorcist]

This movie felt destined to fail from the onset. To many people Robert Englund is Freddy. I sort of feel bad for Jackie Earle Haley, he is a damn good actor BUT this was a no win situation for him. He could try to do an Englund imitation which would draw the ire of a section of fans, he could try something original and get derided by a section of fans for that. The makeup/cg also didn’t help him, I get they wanted to go with a more realistic burnt plastic skin look but I just don’t think it photographed the same. As to the other cast they really didn’t seem believable or even likable. Finally the “did he or didn’t he?“ storyline. Of course he did it, it’s Freddy Krueger. So all the time dedicated to that “mystery” felt wasted, not once did I question his backstory.

[@wind-upboy939]

I liked the "mystery". And I was actually hoping, they would go this way. This might have been naive, but sometimes films actually do surprise me in a good way. So, I still have hope when watching a movie of being pleasantly surprised.

[@crowningchristopher8273]

There is something about Jackie Earl Hayley that intrigues me. I don't know much about his personal life but he seems like he has a twisted sense of humor that translates well onscreen. No amount of polishing could save this movie turd though. I feel bad for him as this could have been a great series for him to get attached to.

[@dominiquejones3805]

He was perfect as Rorschach

[@boomstickcritique902]

If you truly go with the molestation subtext full force then you need to truly make Freddy evil and scary not just constant jump scares he should be playing with the teens psychologically using the fact he abused them to control and manipulate them until the climax when one kid takes the power back from him. That also means if we are to truly hate Freddy then you need to make us truly care for the teens and the new Nancy which means we need to see how the abuse truly affected their lives and day to day world the movie wanted to have it both ways they made a grosser darker Freddy but tried to also make him fun at the same time you can't do that it causes him to come off dull in the movie. The filmmakers wanted it both ways a meaner darker Freddy and story but still wanted a standard slasher movie it doesn't mesh.

[@BearPawSwipe]

I feel exactly the same way. They really just that angle as a quick emotional gotchu without any of the work or even the pay off. It was just kind of like "ok and?"

[@brandonspain12345]

The molestation subtext does make Freddy pretty scary but it just doesn't make him dangerous like the original where he flat-out murdered them.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@brandonspain12345 It makes Freddy grosser than scary what they should have done is make him a killer as well as a molester. However, a grosser Freddy could work if the writing was better in the script.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@ZBird Not really it's just basic writing coherence the more serious the topic a film tries to execute the more that is required from the writing.

[@rustyshackleford3701]

Subtext? Freddy Krueger was always a "pea dough", the difference was in the remake they made it so, that's all he was, a creepy pea dough janitor that, when the parents found out what he did they went and burned/killed him, in the original he was a sadistic child killer that molested his victims, they had to tone it down at the time due to an incident involving pea doughs at a school, which was big time news , studio told them to tone it down, I mean there is the line that Nancy's mom says "he was a filthy child murderer" emphasis on filthy and the way she says it and I believe it was part 6 had a news paper clipping that said outright he was a "pea dough" and the fact Robert Englund and Wes Craven have even said this themselves multiple times ☮️

[@BlackAdder1970]

I really liked this movie as it was dark and serious. Jackie did a great job.

[@aryssobral]

Ikr freddy is a scary killer, the most dangerous

[@kobrathadon4956]

To bad the acting sucked

[@ryanstauffer119]

Would’ve been cool if they did get to make a sequel. I didn’t know about the idea of him possibly going after the parents next. It would’ve been interesting to see him go after Quentin’s father.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

I actually didn't dislike this movie. The tonal shift was fine, and horror is one of the few genres where 'gritty reboot' doesn't bother me. Take the Evil Dead remake for instance; it dropped all the camp entirely but what was left in its place was a brutally unforgiving and gory horror movie. That worked for me. The only thing I did dislike this one was that whiny bitch male protagonist. He was just awful. Rooney Mara was pretty good though.

I remember reading that the director didn't even wanted to do this film. He was actually working on a remake of "Near Dark", also at Platinum Dunes, but Michael Bay finally forced to make this other remake.

[@brittanyjaskiewicz6354]

When the remake came out, I sat down with a notebook with the full intent of ripping the film apart. I had no desire to watch it, but it had been almost a year after it came out and curiosity got the better of me. I did in fact sit down with a notebook and took notes while watching the movie. I am a HUGE fan of the original series and I was so freaking disappointed that 1, Robert Englund didn't return as his character, and 2 that the special effects looked extremely cheap and fake. After watching the movie, I had 2 full notebook pages-front to back, about everything that was wrong with this film. There's nothing wrong with Mr. Haley's performance. But, when you attempt to remake a film from a beloved franchise such as Nightmare, you better have a very well thought out and planned story, actors that can actually act and give a very believable performance, and special effects that help and guide the story. This movie had none of these with the exception of Haley. This movie did not need to be made and overall any fan of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies would probably never watch it again if they saw it.

[@michawee]

Why would Robert Englund return for a remake of a movie which he already made?

[@popeyethepirate2902]

@@michawee high five dude.

[@The_Bigot]

@@michawee so Freddy wasn’t a dwarf ginger without a cool voice, probably.

[@The-Deadite]

Im probably the only one who loves the look of Freddy in this movie- everyone says he looks like a cat or a doll but he looks pretty close to an actual burn victim.

[@gregorybrazell5133]

A couple things... First: the original 1st movie never proved that Freddy did anything. All we really have is the mom's word for it. We know he was burned alive, but did he really do the bad things? No clue. However, we know from later movies that the house where Nancy lived in the first movie was the same house that Freddy lived in! Why would Nancy's mom choose to buy the house of the guy who had molested, abused, and more, the kids?? Parents would actually seek to have the house torn down or something, get rid of the memories as best as they can, not move into it, expose her child more directly to what would certainly be a source of PTSD. Instead, I think there is a potential that Nancy's mom wanted the really nice house (as the rest in the nearby area weren't really that great in comparison), and started the rumors, even getting her husband (chief of police) to sign on for everything. This might also explain why they got divorced. Second: The remake is actually not that bad, but it has to be seen as a direct comparison to the first (and only the first) movie. Can't consider all the rest of the series. As such, it holds up fairly well. Even more, it's certainly a hell of a lot better than the 'remake' of Evil Dead that happened not long after NoES remake. At least NoES 2010 carried the same 'feel', while Evil Dead 2013 had next to zip in the same sense. The original was filled with a weird humor to go with the scares, but the 2013 version was basically just a trash horror movie, almost no humor at all. The NoES 2010 remake was far more faithful to the original, thus leagues better than the Evil Dead remake. Yet, the Evil Dead movie had a lot of love from fans.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

Thank you and I agree. The Evil Dead remake was very forgettable and could have been anything. While the 2010 Nightmare wasn’t perfect, I thought they did a decent job.

[@nicholasbennett7367]

Haley did a great job with what he had to work with. I still watch this from time to time

[@jeffreya9208]

Of all the issues with this remake, Jackie Earl Hayley was not one of them. And that's saying something considering the love we all have for Robert Englund

[@TheRage1581]

These were the original thoughts I wrote after watching the remake many years ago: The blonde girl looked much older than her ex boyfriend in the movie, I know in many cases girls mature physically before guys but by this point in high school age 16-18 that shouldn’t be the case. And because they went with the original basic plot you know she is going to die early on, you’re expecting it so it’s not a surprise like in the first. They main guy characters looked a little too clone model/pretty-boy like for me. There wasn’t much difference in their looks. In the jail cell scene when the ex boyfriend dies. They showed us that they are watching the room on camera...wouldn't they think it odd how blood just randomly bursts out from his chest and his has a huge chest wound but nothing to cause it. And Freddy stabbed though through his back and out his chest which means he should of had an entry wound and blood on his back but he didn't. The scenes and kills they used from the original aren’t done nearly as well. The computer animation just doesn’t look as good as the old fashioned way. It doesn't look scary. The original also had a much creepier vibe in those scenes. In this film they just felt thrown in because it was a remake. As for Freddy, the fact that he looks like an actual burn victim isn’t a good thing. It makes him look sympathetic, not scary. When you see someone on TV with those kind of severe burns you don’t think “wow they’re scary”, you think “that poor person, it’s amazing they are still alive but it must be horrible to look like that”. Freddy’s voice wasn’t done well to me either, it was just kind of awkward sounding. As for the final shot, they ended the original in a similar ending even though the director wasn’t comfortable with it, so I don’t think it was necessary for this film as it negates everything we just watched. I’ll assume it was just a normal nightmare of Nancy’s from the trauma she’s been through. The movie just felt kind of rushed and was done without the charm of the original, nothing is new or surprising. That’s the problem with a remake, kind of pointless in this case. I think the only people who will like this version better are people who saw this before the Original.

[@crazyralph6386]

I liked it! The best part is when Freddy goes to work on Jesse in jail, after giving him a speech on how the brain keeps functioning for several minutes after the heart stops. “We got 6 more minutes to play hehehe!”.

[@jasonjones7451]

Ya I loved that too, it was seriously vicious and the thought of it was terrifying as hell

[@adampellett4917]

Well, not all classic horror fanatics like reboots because it doesn’t have much potential until if WB could make a good franchise like the Conjuring series. It’s alright though for that until Wes Craven passed away in 2015. Ironically, film studios never learned how to make a horror movie remake or fans go watching the originals.

[@nigel_saxon]

Nothing wrong with remakes if their done right just look at John Carpenter's the thing or David Cronenberg's the fly. Also pretty funny that they turned Freddy from a factory worker to groundskeeper Willie in the remake

[@nigel_saxon]

@ZBird yeah they're good movies and it proves my point that remake can be good. There's also the blob, king Kong (05), all the hammer films, invasion of the body snatchers(78) and the mummy (99 )

[@nahtesalinas1917]

*they're

[@vengeanceforcatalonia8935]

"Please willy, Mr. Van Houten has the floor"...

[@elyea5928]

Very few remakes are done “right” these days. The last one I can think of that was actually good was Maniac (Elijah Wood). But lately it’s been total trash for mouth breathers to main vein and act like they’re fans of horror.

[@Kryptic_Karma]

@@vengeanceforcatalonia8935 Don't touch Freddy. Good advice.

[@DAZULOUSOFFICIAL]

I have to say that on the first watch, I wasn't impressed but I decided to give it a re-watch and I've now been converted into a fan of it.This will probably be an unpopular opinion but I don't care because I like what I like at the end of the day.

[@DicklessHipster]

Not a fan of the film, but more power to you. Don't let anyone tell you what to like or dislike. 👌

[@natbellcour499]

I'm in the same boat as you. The more I watch it the more I appreciate what they were trying to do

[@tjpowell234]

I liked it.

[@TheJotaroKujo]

It wasn't bad at all. You can tell that the people who made this movie had a love for the originals and it's a respectful and solid remake. As time goes on and remakes/sequels that "deconstruct" (spit on) the originals more people are starting to appreciate films like this one. Real shame people couldn't see it back then though. We could have had another slasher genre boom and get even more crossovers like Freddy vs Jason. I kind of want to see what they had planned.

[@lukaszzylik4437]

In the Redlettermedia commentary for Nightmare on Elm Street, Jay talks about meeting Jackie Earle Haley on the set of the remake. Jackie told him he thought the original Nightmare was complete garbage. But in press junkets he would say Nightmare was one of his favorite movies and an inspiration to him. So there you go.

[@kirak1561]

Well only first movie was really good, the others were kinda trash horror movies. It’s just Freddy who makes them fun

[@4evermilkman]

Sometimes it's better to let our heroes die, rather than be reborn as something new.

[@x4thmessiahx]

The Friday the 13th movie with Jared Padalecki was actually really good. It kept the elements that made the original story good while making it more modern.

[@daver4347]

One of the problems is it took the remake way too serious . I think Jackie Haley was great but they should allowed him to have more fun because yeah the original nightmare on Elm Street was a dark movie but Freddy as a character played it up and a bit over the top . Plus I didn’t think the dream sequences were all that imaginative so not only did it come off as gloomy but boring as well.

[@BearPawSwipe]

I agree with this 100%.

[@raynwolfsbane2084]

I disagree. As a writer I don't think you can get much more serious than a story about a pedophile becoming a nightmare demon. Sure Freddy has his gallows humour like the Joker, but I think what this movie did better than a lot of the sequels was it had a weight to it which didn't make the violence and kills seem cartoonish.

[@brandonspain12345]

The thing was that Freddy made jokes, but they were twisted and demented jokes only he thinks are funny. I don't know how cutting a girl's face off and imitating her voice was goofy or fun. Or pointing to his face saying "This is god." Or cutting his fingers off, giggling in the dark. He wasn't really over the top either. He played it straight, kept in the shadows and he whispered and not yell. Plus, it would just be a copy to Robert Englund's Freddy if Jackie was more fun and over the top. Do you want a poor man's copy of a better actor or someone who did their own take on the character?

[@JohnStanworth]

It's a remake of the first film though. It's a serious story.

[@daver4347]

@@raynwolfsbane2084 hey that’s your opinion but unfortunately most of the fans agreed with me that’s why it failed . Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LeviClay]

There are aspects I enjoyed about this film. In the original Freddy was a child killer. In the sequels they made him a joker. In this remake Freddy is a child molester. That’s what it needed. The “this dress, was always my favourite”, and “your mouth says no, but your body says yes” were just 👌🏻

[@Stigmatix666]

“your mouth says no, but your body says yes” were just straight out of Freddy vs Jason..

[@Shiirow]

@@Stigmatix666 that makes him a perv not a pedo.

[@Stigmatix666]

@ozmartian I know. Wes Craven has confirmed as much.

[@Stigmatix666]

@@Shiirow And? The OP seems to believe that was an original one-liner from the remake, which it isn’t.

[@drigodamus]

I enjoyed this remake, great lighting and overall production value. Simple story, nothing stands out but I felt it was a solid 76ovr (madden rating 😇) this came out around the time we started hating everything…

[@mismismism]

I don't know what they were thinking with this remake. They basically just took some of the cool scenes from the original, took everything fun and unique out of Freddy and completely wasted the concept of killing in dreams. Freddy could kill in any insane Inception way you could imagine but we just got basic stabbings like any plain slasher. It was so bad it hurt me.

[@jtymusic100]

I tried watching this movie three times, and fell asleep each time. I guess Freddy Krueger killed me!

[@honoramongscars649]

So... apparently when filming they were using two different scripts from two different writers. Both with different scenes/sequences that haven't even made it onto bluray/dvd released. This includes a completely different opening kill to the film that took place at a party, a concept known as the Nightmare map, a cut cathedral sequence, Freddy killing one of the parents, a scene where Freddy uses Quinton's body as a suit (ala Elm Street 2) as the original "end scare", and such.

[@karstkuitenbrouwer9286]

I think a shot of that opening scene at the party was shown in the trailer, but didn't make it in the final movie version.

[@boomstickcritique902]

The movie had like 3 different versions of the ending one was the scene you mentioned where he comes out of the kid's body at the hospital the other is the theatrical one and lastly, the one on the special features DVD is the best one where he returns to the real world human and Nancy beats his ass while telling him how horrible the abuse was this ending fits more with the molestation theme of the movie.

[@Stigmatix666]

4 different scripts, actually..

[@ToonCatTV]

@@Stigmatix666 ok, this movie is so drenched with so much mystery behind the scenes, we need these scripts and cut content out now >

[@Stigmatix666]

@@ToonCatTV True. The test audience did in fact watch a completely different cut of the movie. About half of it was reshot prior to release. There are stills from the deleted scenes and 3 of them are on the Blu Ray. Where's the rest?

[@detroitmcpro]

This movie had a ton of flaws, but had they just made Freddy innocent to begin with, it would've been so much better in my opinion. It also would've made the so predictable it's silly ending a lot better

[@TimeBunny]

Yeah I like the idea of having the “twist” of Freddy actually being falsely accused and giving him the motive for getting revenge.

[@JohnStanworth]

@@TimeBunny He has a motive. The parents killed him. The audience doesn't need to and shouldn't feel sympathy for him. Freddy has fun killing teenagers in creative ways. That's not a sympathetic character.

[@TimeBunny]

@@JohnStanworth yes true, I just think it would’ve been an (possible) interesting new take 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Stigmatix666]

Freddy's not innocent. That's one thing that makes him unique

[@JohnStanworth]

@@Stigmatix666 Or at least differentiates him from Jason.

[@Majorqueefdouche3040]

As a kid growing up in a blockbuster era I would always rent the classic horror movies And totally enjoyed it and was really excited for all the remakes for the most part…. I think they were all pretty decent but this one was the most 50/50 still think it’s a fun remake tho.

[@TheGoldenPlatoon757]

Truth! I thought I was the only person that was thinking, that if he was an innocent person that was framed by the actual molester and got killed, it would've demonstrated that a sweet and innocent person can go through a new side of evil and embrace darkness. Plus, in the original film they went with, it would've made more sense if he killed the people that burned him. But being an innocent person and being framed and then told on by the children would've made his sprees of murders on the children more of a justification.

[@asgads]

this franchise definitely needs more sequels considering how creative you can get on it

[@MURD3RWAVE]

I remember thinking how could they not use the og ost? It was like watching a Halloween without the score. I remember being hyped for this movie and within the first 10 mins I just knew I wasn't going to like it. I still can't believe the girl who played Nancy got more work. She was so bad in that movie. Turns out she is a good actress but not in that movie. The Noes movies will always be my fav for many reasons and I except that I will never be truly happy with a remake. It's better to show people the originals if they have not seen them then to want a remake again.

[@reptongeek]

Rooney Mara worked with David Fincher twice and been Oscar nominated for two of her performances one of which she should have won. She is a talented actress like her sister but if the script sucks and/or she is badly directed her performance won't be good

[@wstine79]

The movie was lackluster, but it has some good things about it. Jackie Earle Haley did a great job with what he had as Freddy Krueger and the sequences where the dream world and the real world jump back and forth was creative. I do wish they made Freddy Krueger out to be a innocent person who was killed cuz people were assuming he was a bad guy.

[@JoBloHorrorOriginals]

Innocent would have helped a lot. And I agree, there were nuggets of interesting ideas here.

[@sirgumby7140]

It started with the opening scene...props to the actor staying up days to get into character that is impressive BUT it was a dumb scene because 3 mins into the movie you already see Freddy in plain view...in any horror movie you hide your monster/killer in shadows never give away what they look like right away...you want the audience to get creeped out by what they are seeing or imagine how scary it COULD be...I know everyone knows what Freddy looks like but at least wait a lil longer before revealing what he actually looks like...lest attempt to scare us further in the movie...they needed to start Freddy off with a banger and just wasn't there

[@sirgumby7140]

@ZBird thats why most horror movies suck now cuz there's no buildup

[@arrownoir]

You can't hide him, that's a trick you can only rely on once. Everyone knows who Freddy is and what he looks like. There's no mystery there anymore.

[@morenoj8853]

The original opening they had sounded better. There’s clips of it in the trailers. The opening they gave us was boring and way to fast.

[@joro3945]

Why did they make Freddy a creeper? Such a weird twist, I wish they went with the Freddy was innocent twist.

[@chrisbaker7583]

I still stand behind the early remakes (Texas chainsaw, hills have eyes, dawn of the dead), but there was definitely a line crossed with the Friday the 13th and nightmare on elm street remakes, where it felt like they completely gave up on whatever respect they had left for the original movies.

[@fiction5559]

Gonna disagree on Friday the 13th. While I don't think the remake added anything to the franchise, it didn't take anything away either IMO. It was just fine I'd say. The Rob Zombie Halloween remakes, and this NOES remake though, yeah, they just suck.

[@divisionbell143]

The Friday reboot was easily better than most of the sequels.

[@chrisbaker7583]

@@divisionbell143 Youre right. I actually went back and watched the reboot and had a good time. I must have been in a shitty mood when I first saw it back in the day lol

[@PaulRizzo]

I really liked the micro nap thing. Cool addition.

[@Stigmatix666]

Yes, from Wes Craven in part 1. 🙄🙄

[@PaulRizzo]

@@Stigmatix666 Huh? Where’s that in part 1? Especially like it’s represented here?

[@Stigmatix666]

@@PaulRizzo The telephone call from Freddy is described in part 1's script as a micronap. Also, you seriously have to be blind if you cannot see the multiple instances of micronaps in the original series. However, they were cleverly used, not just as boring and predictable jumpscares as they are presented in the remake..

[@alejandromolinac]

It’s a shame they didn’t release the “original” cut…. Guess there was no demand for the movie altogether

[@boomstickcritique902]

Fans are still waiting for the Uncut copy of Dream Child to come out lol.

[@alejandromolinac]

Ha! I had no idea such a thing existed….. then again I am not a Nightmare series fan…. Just like the first 3…..

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@alejandromolinac The Uncut version was released to VHS do some print misstep and if you buy the old VHS from back in the day you can own the Uncut version however it never been released to DVD for some reason.

[@alejandromolinac]

@@boomstickcritique902 That reminds me of the Scream "uncut" version that was released on VHS and LaserDisc..... But It was never available on DVD for whatever reason....

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@alejandromolinac It's weird this Remake actually has 3 different endings that were filmed one is the theatrical 2 is on the DVD that had Freddy come into reality as a human with no power and he got beat to death and died with no sequel bait ending. The last ending was Nancy and her boyfriend in the Hospital and Freddy comes out of his body and attacks Nancy like the Nightmare 2 ending the movie lol. They also cut a Nightmare scene of Freddy as a religious monk messing with Nancy's boyfriend over his religious faith also cut was the original opening that didn't have Freddy but had the boy whose throat was cut instead killing himself at a pool party. Cut was a scene of Freddy making his glove along with him turning into the dead version of the blond to taunt Nancy as she sinks in the pool of blood. Gone was one last scene of Freddy killing one of the parents in a micro nap.

[@lowket]

Haley is an excellent actor; he only can use what he gets scriptwise, which was crap. Robert Englund will always be Freddie, but Haley is a great actor by itself.

[@Steventwangs]

I also agree that there was something fishy about this

[@ab5olut3zero95]

The concept of involuntary micro-naps is a real thing. After a few days at NTC and sleeping around 2 hours a night and being always on mission, it gets really hard to stay awake and you have to watch each other to stay functional- especially dangerous on tanks. That said I don’t remember one of these naps involving dreams, as they usually only last a few seconds.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

You gotta fact check better. Jackie Earl Hayley was not intimidated by the role. He hadnt even seen the movies until right after he was signed on. And he thought they were stupid.

[@4G63Tx]

I met JEH, he’s such an awesome dude. I totally fanboyed out and forgot to ask him what he thought a sequel to this movie would have been like. Loved him as Rorschach the most.

[@andrejturner]

My problem personally was the makeup for Freddy the writing and the atmosphere. It just wasn't scary . It felt too serious. I thought Haley was too serious. Not saying he shouldn't have been but he should be serious with a smile because his victims are in a place not of this world. Freddy Kruger has always been a happy golucky serial killer. Like I'm playing with my food type of killer. His best shots were when you couldn't see his face. I just think Robert did Kruger so well that nobody can hold a candle to it. Cause when you see Robert you see Freddy Kruger 😂 he's just so damn creepy looking. I like some of the background with Freddy tho . Just like it the clown remake . Just hard to compete with the original it.

[@Clarexaizabela]

I was around 10 years old when the remake came out, and honestly, I really liked it since this was the movie that introduced me to the ANOES saga. I really enjoyed it and after some time, I had the chance to watch the original portrayed by Robert Englund. Soon my favs became Wes Craven's New Nightmare and Dream Warriors. This will be my fav horror movie series along with Child's Play. Forever a fav of mine ❤

[@MikeD974]

New nightmare is my favorite

[@careful...Icarus]

Jeezus a fucking acronym.

[@frozen2golden]

Don't forget the early 2000s bombarded us with American remakes of Japanese horror films.

[@Food4thought1234]

They just didn’t cast Freddy right.. at the very least they should have let Robert pass on the mantle.

[@CVGrin]

I actually really enjoyed this remake, I liked the more serious tone of Freddy

[@goldsmith2459]

It could have been good, but was subpar. I liked how it was a really different take on the story, it was A LOT darker with Freddy actually being a pedo that abused these kids (made even more tragic by the fact that he actually got along well with them and they loved him until his mind became twisted), and that makes the ending really damn gut wrenching if them beating Freddy was just a dream and he was fucking with them. But it's main issues are that there was too many random cheap jumpscares that it just got to the point where it was either funny or annoying. It's made even more lame by the fact that there ARE good scenes in the movie, they were capable of making tense creepy well done scenes but most of them are crap. Also, Englund IS Freddy. Unfortunately I don't think any other actor could ever portray Freddy.

[@Elligons]

Making him look like a real burn victim was a bad choice because in the back of your mind you know that being off-put by burn victims is wrong. The original Freddy was far more demonic looking, which reflected his evil.

[@arrownoir]

It's not wrong, the mind finds it off putting because it's a gruesome thing.

[@lipeznsksk9868]

Shut up

[@enerioffutt1881]

I absolutely hated what they did with Freddy's face. It looked unfinished and horrible, but not in a good way. The actor wasn't terrible, but I really didn't like the movie at all.

[@andgalactus1]

They really did a good job of making him look like a burn victim too. It's surprisingly accurate.

[@SonicQ8]

I actually enjoyed this movie because I love Freddy, Jackie did I great job doing Freddy, gave him a different taste from the original Freddy we know. 👍🏼🔥

[@kobrathadon4956]

Boring

[@jorgeordonez6999]

I love this movie so much :) There's so many things I enjoyed about it, perhaps some of the acting could've been improved with a different casting. But Freddy was perfect, they should've made him more burnt, even if he looked grotesque.

[@dominiquejones3805]

I actually like this film. I appreciated the dark Freddy. Wish they stuck with him being innocent

[@raynwolfsbane2084]

Why the hell would they scale back Freddy's gruesomeness? He's supposed to be repulsive...

[@MoeinthePhilippines]

The late 2000s early 2010s saw an emergence of more grounded, "realistic" horror. I didn't mind Freddie. I hated the bland story. The "new" Freddie was okay.

[@TomE.V.]

The only terrifying thing about Freddy in This movie is what he did to those poor kids when they were in Pre school. Totally unnecessary

[@geoffreyfletcher6976]

I personally liked the remake as it went into more scientific detail about sleep deprivation. Wasn't expecting it to be better than the original nor replace it. But it was still very good nonetheless.

[@mams1701]

Gotta say: F13 was poor.. Hated it.. Zombie's Halloween was so incredible I cannot watch the originals or the new ones ever again.. But this Elm Street remake: phenomenon. This was done seriously and made me- for the 1st time ever--afraid of Freddy... And the fact that they had you questioning if Freddy was innocent until the end was a beautiful twist... Englund was prttey much a joke after part one.. But this... This was amazingly well written and acted... To me THIS version is what Freddy should have always been... 👍

[@mams1701]

@Lewis Friend - you talking about me or yourself...? 🤔

[@mams1701]

@Lewis Friend oh, I see: so because you unilaterally decided something is juvenile simply because you dislike it I am automatically a preteen or early teenager. Got it. You go girl.. 🤡

[@mams1701]

@Lewis Friend Not a problem. Also, while your heads up there already make sure you check your prostate. Early detection is key to a healthy colon.. 👍Thanks..

[@__Leland__]

F13 wasn't poor elm street remake was good different darker my faves are the original elm street dream warriors and wes craven the nostalgia us just great

[@xevious21]

Haley is a great actor, and he did his best with what he had. My biggest issue with the move was the makeup for him, it was too much and I don't think he could emote as much as OG Freddy.

[@deeacosta2734]

Jacki Earl Hayle is a phenomenal actor.

[@pureluck8767]

He is a confirmed child pedo dude. Read the news 🗞️ he even looks like one

[@deeacosta2734]

@@pureluck8767 wtf is wrong with you? He played one in a move but he's married.

[@markshaver3138]

They need to make Freddy vs Freddy for Robert Englund to reprise his role and confront "impostor" Freddy. Would be cool but unfortunately Englund is done playing the role.

[@coffeeshopcomics]

I think Wesley Snipes said this the best. " There's multiple Punishers but only one Blade." This is also true here. There are multiple Nightmare on Elm Street's but there's only one Freddy.

[@devontehuntley6274]

This movie could have worked if it was a loose sequel to the others, involved Robert Englund, and had less CGI. It's clear Platinum Dunes was on a remake craze following their TCM success which was a terrific remake, but everything else they did, even by mostly other studios, fell flat tremendously. They should have left this series alone. I also hated the ending because Freddy was just killed and within two hours Nancy comes home with her mom and he quickly comes back to kill Nancy's mom? I can see if there was a time gap at least to give it a bit of break, but that was just way too quick for him to pop up that soon after being defeated in a way that should have kept him dead for a while. This is why the franchise went dead for over a decade and rightfully so. This needed NO remake and definitely not any sequel to one. Platinum Dunes screwed both this and F13, another series that went dormant for the same amount of time currently. I do have to disagree when people say this lifted too much from the original. I don't know what movie you guys are watching, but apart from CERTAIN SCENES that did mimic the original (and rightfully so since this IS a remake), the plot was pretty much original. All the character names were different (except Nancy but she has a different last name), story points were new especially the whole daycare thing, the micro-sleep concept, the whole climax at the old daycare when the original ended at the house and it was just Nancy facing Freddy, not Nancy and a friend as the remake showed. The whole opening portion with Kris was vastly different than what we saw out of Tina in the original. Nothing was beat for beat until we saw her death scene. So this movie was actually pretty original for the most part 85%. The other 15% was recycled from the original and dialogue from the other movies like the wet dream remark from The Dream Master when Joey died in his water bed and the "Your mouth says no no, but your eyes say yes yes" which came from Freddy Vs. Jason, but in this movie, "eyes" is replaced with "body".

[@bjbanisin6513]

Robert Englund did not want to come back as Freddy Krueger and Robert Englund did not want to do a remake.

[@devontehuntley6274]

@@bjbanisin6513 I'm saying the movie should not have been a remake. If it was a loose sequel in continuity of all the other movies set in the present, then he would have likely came back.

[@johnofthewired]

i LOVED this version of freddy. no more one liners, no more bad puns. they made freddy a monster and it was great

[@ahsokatano3310]

Agreed 👍

[@ScientificallyStupid]

I was excited and interested when I found out that a remake was being made- I tried to keep an open mind about it. I liked Jackie Earle Haley and thought that there was so much that could be done to expand on the concepts of the original series. The technical limitations of the 80s didn't exist anymore and they could go really surreal and out there (since we're talking about dreams, a place where anything can happen) using the special effects techniques that had been developed in the intervening 20 years. Instead, we got the same setpieces, only done in CG this time, which made them worse, not better. The inspiration and creativity was sorely lacking. It was like the trend nowadays of having AI write books or movies or produce pieces of art based on a set of parameters: "Dall-e, make a movie where people are killed in their dreams, but don't make it creative or scary".

[@Travbryanmusic]

They should have just brought back Englund. His charm, wit, and flamboyance is unmatched. Its a big part of what makes Freddy likeable

[@mtpstv94]

What happened? A bad studio, bad script, bad choice of cast, bad production, bad producers and a complete lack of desire to create an interesting movie rather than capitalize on existing work.