Jocko Podcast 45 with Echo Charles - Wooden Leg, Native American Warrior

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0:00:00 - "Wooden Leg: A Wairror Who Fought Custer" - Book Review.
1:57:35 - Lessons Learned.
2:05:37 - Additional Thoughts. Capable VS Comfortable.
2:17:05 - Dope Internet, Amazon, Onnit, and JockoStore stuff.

[@tmjackson17]

"We piled the remnants of his dead body on the bonfire. We stayed there until nothing was left but ashes and coals." *Dramatic pause* "So these guys are gettin after it."

[@flahgdoe4558]

Dude that was hilarious and disturbing

[@whata86]

😂😂

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

Kid shoots his brother in the head. Jocko: "these kids are awesome!" What a Savage!

[@kevinashcraft6132]

Hard-core getten after it !

[@rktsnail]

Lol

[@mysteryjudgejuryexecutione3443]

As a native American we are all warriors, a majority of us just got domesticated, but warriors still exist.

[@cameronbawden1516]

😊

[@cameronbawden1516]

😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@Ragnarockalypse]

I still can't get over how such an imposing figure like Echo can have such a gentle voice.

[@reinaldolazo3005]

Wooden Leg was taking part in what we call in Chippewa a "Humbalechee" or Vision Quest. The Plains Indians, we didn't have tobacco we call it kanik-kanik and you are right it is a mixture of wild herbs all drug free. We do all the ceremonies today including the "Sundance" which is like the Vision Quest and lasts 4 days and 4 nights of no food or water, dancing from sunrise to sunset on the third day those who are called to pierce, do so, if you would like to attend any ceremonies you are more then welcome to come and attend out here in Omaha. Ray Standing Eagle

[@TheBreakMonster]

Awesome!

[@ericb2409]

Respect!

[@johnpierce4778]

What is called to "pierce"?

[@evschem6013]

@@johnpierce4778 you make your own pegs from a choke cherry branch and then during Sundance on the 3rd day all dancers pierce from there chest or your back you choose. So with a scalpel they cut your chest or back enough to push the peg through then you tie up to the tree in the center and dance back and fourth from the tree 4 times while praying for the reason you’re out there dancing for. Then on the 4th time you can either run back and break off the rope or dance them out. Sometimes you don’t break off the first so gotta try few times or otherwise they will just pull you off if you can’t break. It takes a lot out of you to try and break. But the reason for piercing is basically all about honoring our women because women are the most part of Dakota culture they bring life and are the backbone of our people so piercing is a little into the pain that women go through and also your offering the most valuable thing you have to the creator for your prayers which is yourself. They’re are a lot of teachings and different things people say about Sundance and what it means. That’s the beauty of Dakota culture there are literal hundreds of ways to do each ceremony everyone does it little different and that’s good. All I’ve ever been taught by many is as long as you do it with a good heart and good mind, that’s the right way to do it. All this comes from Dakota people btw what a lot of tribes call their stuff it came from us the Dakota we taught alot of tribes about these ways and about the drum and singing especially we the first to make the drum and we’re told to give it to all nations and teach them. That’s just a little piece of info into What Sundance truly means and a little history of Dakota people are our ceremonies I could keep typing a book for you 😅 but I doubt anyone would wanna read this much so sorry for going off.

[@MrWinklbauer]

That’s fire info

[@morkanz6998]

This should be how history classes are done

[@smokefilled]

This is by far one of the best Jocko podcasts to date! DO NOT GIVE UP CAPABILITY FOR COMFORT!! Nice to hear Jocko's opinion on political issues, even if it is disguised as a book report.

[@tricepsish]

This was in my humble opinion the best one yet... I was so immersed in the story and left with a new found respect for Native Americans and indigenous cultures around the world in general...and that speech starting at 1:57:00 ... amazing

[@okrazerback]

Thank you for reading this book. I am an Okie with native blood in me and enjoy learning about the history of the tribes. I enjoy listen to the podcast while I'm at work or during my Thursday evening workouts at home. I used two packets in my tea and the other day and ran out of weights and had to go out in the drive way to squat my truck. That stuff realy works.... I was just at the gun shop getting my new arrows tipped and Royce Gracie was in there getting new arrows. That was pretty cool.

[@flintmcguire5195]

more Native American stuff! An amazing people who where basically in the stone age and beating a steam engine level society, so many lessons from there perspective, my favorite podcast yet.

[@conradxtorres]

I really enjoy listening to all of the podcasts. I am From the Chumash tribe on the Central Coast of California and grew up learning how to hunt, track, navigate terrain and even some escape and evasion tactics. Always wanted to join the military, but decided to take a different path after attending MMA in Virginia, where I ran into Richard Marcinko a couple of times. One of the few people in my life that made a HUGE impression on me and he didn't even have to say a word. Much respect and thanks to you and everyone else for your service.

[@chrismercit3357]

Thank you for doing this podcast. I am part Native American. Thank you for showing such respect to Native American culture.

[@chrismercit3357]

@@christiandave1329 People’s ancestral background is none of your business. Please do not judge people by the melanin in the skin and the hair color. Both are quickly and affordably changed to suit societies sad superficial standards.

[@MagicMarker447]

Great podcast! "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" is another good read for those interested in the Indian perspective of the struggles in the west.

[@gailvolm3862]

We are drawn in by the history of it all, my Grandma Holland called it "His story" referencing God acting in the broad sweep of human history, well as individual's lives. First we learn the story, then we learn the lessons that will benefit us in our lives. The worst thing modern indoctrination vs education has done is to eliminate both the lessons and the history by not teaching the whole history of the good, the bad, and the unflattering. Why? Because, every civilization has truly fallen from within and not from without from weakness and apathy and lethargy. This is why your audience is so drawn in by this podcast, and book reviews, and firsthand account interviews of modern history. We thirst for genuine knowledge, and appreciate both of you. May God bless you both, your families, and your businesses!

[@esdubray026]

This brought new meaning to Grappling for me! I am from the Black Hills of South Dakota and I am of Lakota Decent. There are only a handful of us who participate in JiuJitsu! I’d love to bring grappling back to my Lakota People. 90% (PROBABLY HIGHER) of the women who grow up on the Rez suffer from abuse in their lives. I’m only a 4 stripe white belt, but I’d be willing to bet I’m the most qualified white belt there is. My coaches say I should not open a gym until I am a purple belt as per rule of Andre Galvao and Atos. I’d like to bring grappling back to my people. They think basketball is cooler (no joke), their talent can better serve themselves. Aho! Mitakuye Oyasin ps. I’d like to bring back the warrior games among the tribes 😂 thanks regardless, this meant a lot and I’m running with it. Take care.

[@lyleburlingame2276]

Hope you're staying with it brother

[@EarlAllenBoek]

Don’t sell you’re warrior spirit short. I once fought an entire Jiujitsu club in eastern LA county, by accident. Except for a little click in my left knee when it gets a little cold, I survived. I bouncer made the mistake of assaulting my friend at the door. Guess he learnt that from one of those Purple-belted, striped-boys. After I broke his nose I grabbed him tight around his neck and just kicked both of my own legs out from under me. I invented ground and pound that night and gave the entire club a free lesson, though most of the 10 or so members of the club were beating up other innocent customers. Open your gym screw em.

[@alvc22]

don't give up on your dream. we need people like you to pass this on to the native american men and women.

[@Choom89]

This ranks among one of my favorites so far... thanks for introducing me to Wooden Leg.

[@johnnyomerta1730]

"One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful." Man, when me were brave. Thats it right there.

[@christopherirwin934]

The podcast has definitely helped me out on all fronts. I wasn't necessarily weak before but I'm a lot stronger mentally now, which has had an impact physically as well. Thank you.

[@InPursuitOfArt]

I would love a book of Jocko's insights at the end of each reading and also at the end of each episode. I've been cutting the audio on some of these to remember, but there are so many and they are all so valuable - it would make an awesome book and there's probably enough material already there for one. Echo & Jocko - please think about it :) Thank you guys, most useful content for living a better life I've ever found. Thank you!

[@2dogshunting]

InPursuitOfArt maybe @echocharles will be putting these together on KZbin. There are a few out the now.

[@ignoto17]

What a fantastic idea!!! I'd buy that book instantly.

[@ignoto17]

That book would be a marvelous companion to the podcast and Jocko's books.

[@captainblood9616]

Such an important message in this one... that loss of strength and discipline by slow repeated concessions to weakness, that loss of freedom through incremental steps of government overreach, the slow loss of health from giving in to avarice over and over, that slow death of a 10,000 cuts. Though not American I always felt an affinity for the native Amercians and the what they lost.

[@nickbloom6861]

There is some seriously good lessons to learn from this entire podcast. This particular episode is criminally underrated amd under-viewed

[@readybag2162]

Good evening. Thank you so much, first for your service, and second for taking the time to create these podcasts, I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate them. You guy's are changing lives for the better and that makes the world a better place. I have received so much amazing advice to put into my life and businesses, and look forward for more!

[@MrWinklbauer]

Rewatching this. It’s my favorite podcast.

[@mr.g816]

THis has been my favorite podcast from Jocko. An incite as to how our ancestors lived on the plains.

[@MrAvoutour]

I found this episode as one of the most interesting thanks for the breakdown!

[@ronandeery2931]

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[@Mdaddarioe]

Sometimes I mistake Jocko Willink for William Shakespeare. The heroic version of Shakespeare, that is.

[@ungface]

As Jocko mentioned, its likely shakespeare was a soldier himself.

[@ryanthornton8038]

Making reading great again! Go Jocko! Jocko for president!

[@mikepeace6363]

Bacl here again after however many years - such a great episode - one of my favourites.

[@Chrisd1086]

Listening to jocko podcast 45 while on my way to Muster - not bad.

[@fishbone8703]

I wish I was you at that moment

[@jardo531]

Outstanding podcast. This is one of my favorite to date.

[@MrWinklbauer]

Jocko! You should do audio books! W/ additional commentary from Echo of course.

[@tao123chi]

this is just so great. Jocko is awsome

[@cojojojo8964]

One of your best podcasts so far. Thanks Jocko. I'm glad I listened to this one. I'll have to think about it.

[@LaRcyEntertainmant]

@Echocharles You are special sir. Jocko your intellect and awareness is inspiring.

[@Horseshoedot]

Thank you for your continued podcasts. Oss.

[@danasmith3288]

I listened to this back when it first came out. I appreciated it then, but so much more now.

[@Paulilmys]

I am going to have to get this book. Thanks for the info.

[@crashgsxr750]

thank you for the breakdown vids echo, also thank you for emphasizing being students of history

[@anthonyveltre7669]

The KZbin channel is dope @echocharles. I have to admit that I have never listened to the podcast other than through KZbin, but it's awesome to see the facial expressions.. it feels like I'm part of the conversation.... Keep it up!!! Started watching from number 1... 45 down...

[@KatiaBruce]

I so loved this podcast!! I will order that book for my 19 yr old son who is Métis and loves anything warrior :) I really liked your conclusions at the end, Echo. great podcast you guys!!

[@eamonnmackin9720]

Awesome podcast, thank you Jocko and Echo

[@oniiJitsu]

Fucking look up to you guys so so much man!! Please never stop getting after it! You are both a true inspiration1

[@jaredbarhorst9295]

Jocko, the United States Army Cavalry has a poem called. 'Fiddlers Green' that may be of some help. Halfway down the trail to Hell, In a shady meadow green Are the Souls of all dead Troopers camped, Near a good old-time canteen. And this eternal resting place Is known as Fiddlers’ Green. Marching past, straight through to Hell The Infantry are seen. Accompanied by the Engineers, Artillery and Marines, For none but the shades of Cavalrymen Dismount at Fiddlers’ Green. Though some go curving down the trail To seek a warmer scene. No Trooper ever gets to Hell Ere he’s emptied his canteen. And so rides back to drink again With friends at Fiddlers’ Green. And so when man and horse go down Beneath a saber keen, Or in a roaring charge of fierce melee You stop a bullet clean, And the hostiles come to get your scalp, Just empty your canteen, And put your pistol to your head And go to Fiddlers’ Green

[@2dogshunting]

@echocharles speaks the truth about lessons learned from history. I love history now, not so much in high school. CAPABLE! Oh so true. Strenght. Thank you Jocko and Echo. Is it next Wednesday yet?

[@damiensouth1160]

The ceiling and doors are low for heating reasons. It's a myth that people were alot shorter.

[@dakota7109]

I wish I could tell my friends of this great podcast but I do not have many, I will find another way because these teaching lessons are important.

[@providedperspective]

These are such good books jocko, every single book so far that you've recommended Great! because they're TRUE

[@aleforte]

Great stuff Sr. thank you!!!

[@samplecow]

Pumpkin patch... GET SOME.

[@3tvet]

I love this native American warrior episode

[@Black7TraumaKits]

Good job on this podcast! Damn good job!

[@mc2441]

Jocko "The Wise Warrior" Willink....

[@abdulabbasi5724]

Great podcast. Another great recommendation.

[@gregoryj6901]

Damn didn't realize I missed an episode .... been too busy GETTIN AFTER IT

[@nathanjordan3642]

I was taught the saying early on that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[@SomeGuy-sj1ly]

People were just harder way back in the day. People, generally, were far more accustomed to dealing with hardship before 1900 than the vast vast majority of people since. There are exceptions to every rule of course...but you just had to be harder back then.

[@Pauliey365]

Thanks Echo and Jocko! BTF.

[@slowrollinglow5498]

I'd like to hear an account from a Indian drafted off a rez during ww2 or Vietnam, childhood, the draft, battle, etc.

[@MrWinklbauer]

Back again. The best.

[@chrisjbarton]

Don’t give up the ability to fight.

[@30yearoldgrom]

400 to 8000lbs😂🤙❤ another awesome episode. I'd be fascinated to know Jocko's stance on if he'd been in the situation of the book (as a white man) what would he have done. I almost feel he would have sided with the warrior's 💁‍♂️. Here in 2024 and this podcast still smashes it. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@DevilFrog61]

very cool book choice this time...

[@raynorman4315]

magnificent!!

[@DJRAJEE]

thank you

[@willy4018]

Very relevant today, don't give up your guns

[@alexandercrespolugo1744]

Otro gran capitulos!

[@MrBuds58]

48% Native American here =)

[@LaRcyEntertainmant]

I WANT MORE ECHO CHARLES

[@OneEyedDrummerTDHE]

The folly of man, should never. Be forgotten or ignored. Or else you too, will follow in there pain.

[@awesomeawesomesauce]

This guy is part of the new breed of badass. Old school badasses like boxers, army men or even special forces guys like him are very good at what they do but they're rarely if ever articulate, conscious and intellectual about their pursuits. They know what to do, how to do it and why you do it but they were never good at putting it into words so it can be taught. I can only speak for boxers and other martial artists but the old breed taught by showing and expecting you to copy what they were doing til you got it right. Something I never learned or seem to have the capacity to learn. Whereas the new breed of badasses have the capacity to intellectually break down a movement into a science. Instead of jabbing and waiting for you to copy their jab, they would show a jab and break down every small movement and all of the variations you could do with them and then let you train while correcting your form.

[@ethanwilson5310]

Tucumsa, crazy horse . true leaders and warrior. I leard more from them than sun zu could teach.

[@MrRizlaSmoker]

RIP Wooden Leg

[@nickthornton3661]

Great video

[@captainAUBS]

Off-topic but I remember you mentioning something about how your diet is primarily steak/animal fats. Can you expand on that? AMAZING PODCAST.

[@Justin.Cramer]

captainAUBS check Podcast 5. He mentioned a book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. Read it. Changed my diet. Not hungry and loosing weight.

[@ragrle]

Dam awesome every week .

[@johnzehrbach820]

I read this 40 years ago.

[@arphaksad01]

Never give up your guns and get rid of politicians

[@airsoftjunkies1]

Seems like when you have a special guest on the podcast you get more views than when you don't.

[@quentinham5908]

I actually prefer the episodes with Echo Charles and Jocko as opposed to the guest episodes for the most part.

[@garybellish3908]

They also used opiods along with their herbs

[@vflex1]

Unfortunately we all live on a reservation now. It's sad that we couldn't see history repeating itself.

[@nickbloom6861]

1:53:20 note

[@trentd4988]

BACK TO THE BOOK

[@jgamez5023]

NEVER give up your guns !

[@Berlin44acp]

👍

[@gilgaroth5942]

“I don’t want to wrestle ‘Big Thight.’” 😆

[@HomeshighlandPark]

I need to catch up to all these. That means no more netflix

[@kristinarae]

1:57:00. That is all.

[@aphysique]

Jocko, whats your take on Jesse Ventura? You've prolly been asked this intriguing question before...Nevertheless it's a question I haven't heard you discuss before!

[@butsirrr]

aphysique true navy seals support mr ventura.. not chris kyle 👍

[@aphysique]

Still wanna here from Jockoz mouth...Where he stands on Ventura & the situation that took place ...Luv to see Jesse on Jocko's podcast, what a fantastic cast that would be!!

[@aphysique]

Still wanna here from Jockoz mouth...Where he stands on Ventura & the situation that took place ...Luv to see Jesse on Jocko's podcast, what a fantastic cast that would be!!

[@TheSkinnychef1620]

I'm sure that shit stays entirely within the family. My bet is you never hear a word from Jocko on the subject.

[@maximusjmaxwell]

It would be interesting to have Jesse Ventura on as a guest. However, he was on Joe Rogan's podcast recently and it was akward to watch. Jesse is so...Jesse. He still has that bravado from his youth combined with his somewhat overbearing conviction. It makes for a sometimes tense or akward interaction.

[@jpm7596]

Hooyah!

[@joebast1842]

did Echos biceps get even bigger?...

[@jwconstruction9065]

They grow everyday! Lol

[@dks13827]

Indian warrior !!!!

[@davidklein6333]

Really enjoyed this - up until Echo started to speak a lot (although Echo's exhortation not to give up capability for comfort is really good - thanks Echo). Thanks very much, Jocko

[@nickbloom6861]

01:07:00

[@Alexander-xq5sf]

Imagine Joko a guest on reading rainbow

[@mattjonz2873]

I am gonna have to go witht the indians take on the story . I think That the battle ended in a suicide en mass by the cavalry troops. Since there was no POW's in the indian wars and because the indians mutilated their victims, many while still alive. I don't find it hard to believe in soldiers offing each other and then themselves in a pact made prior or while in battle. Many soldiers today would have done the same thing in a hopeless situation.

[@TomTirabasso]

Oh yeah, I have no doubt. They weren't stupid and knew it was over for them. The wise choice in my opinion.

[@aiGeis]

Damnit where are the links so I can make my wallet smaller?

[@nickbloom6861]

01:09:50

[@Kahoku53]

The devil is a coward and a liar... when he attacks you keep fighting against him.

[@nickbloom6861]

02:03:50

[@comesahorseman]

👏👏🎆

[@ethanwilson5310]

If we are friends as u say would u not find ur new friend's more useful and less of a burden with our mobility and arms.