Balancing the Grind and Life - Jocko Willink and Echo Charles

[@boozziee2228]

"There is more to life than jiu jitsu and physical training" Never thought those words would come out of Jocko's mouth.

[@bryanguerrero3757]

Have children and balance this life, and have a healthy mind and body, tell me you don’t feel like a million bucks .

[@BrazenRain]

Jiu jitsu is life, but life is jiu jitsu

[@aprildice1064]

... there is also SEALSSSS

[@bridgetteojo5239]

He speaks upon that in his podcasts. That's why he mentioned how he socializes while he is working out and they won't even speak. I used to do that with a friend in college and it was great; lol, I'm just glad that other people do that because I used to think something was weird with me. Lol.

[@peterhayssen3609]

I'm 17 too and am addicted to the rock climbing grind. For a while I was feeling isolated but then I began inviting people to train with me. I believe that the best option is to spread the grind because it improves people's lives and builds a community that holds each other accountable. Surround yourself with people who care about themselves and GENUINELY want you to succeed.

[@ssj4godzilla]

GREAT ANSWER

[@jenniferdana5665]

Piss off loser. You think I'd hesitate to allow an aggressive dominant dog or two to just bite, attack and maul you? Go ahead. Be a dumbass antagonistic bully who honestly believes that you are better than other people. You are not. Get over your own ego. Stop being mean.

[@Moneyman-33]

Jennifer Dana Must be that time of the month, eh, Jennifer? The fuck is wrong with you!

[@jenniferdana5665]

ColiN PC Oh I get it now. You think it's cool. 😂🤣 Whatever.

[@brrrr9165]

Peter Hayssen that’s how I felt about bodybuilding for the longest time, then I started raving and lost the passion I had for it. I still workout a lot and consistently, but the passion isn’t there anymore for it though I want to regain it

[@CryHavoc013]

If You don't design points of flexibility into the system, they will design themselves. It fits engineering as well as it fits life in general.

[@chrispendleton9132]

nice

[@b_hazard]

Wow. Thank you. It's amazing how the right metaphor can snap an idea right in place.

[@otoyoto7153]

Incredibly well put.

[@armorsmith43]

Bisq or the system will snap.

[@Studiodevs]

Hell of a caption lol

[@michaelworks4142]

Echo is JACKED!!!

[@Andre39814]

Jocko: Get after it! Comment section: Echo's biceps OMG

[@kendallisland1806]

🙏

[@NitinKumar-lq6bj]

im 15 ,woke up today at 4:30 and got in my workout and made breakfast and now eating it its 7:39 am now, from india

[@miked.5089]

Naruto Verse get after it my friend!!

[@petekingston5291]

4:30am GOOD

[@donalejo1889]

My nigga

[@williamwebster8367]

You are on the path.

[@aamir1972]

3 hours??

[@miked.5089]

Damn !!! Guns 💪 out ECHO!!!!

[@Andrewmylife]

Gey

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

One of the harshest lessons in life is to balance your work, family, social, health, finances, etc.. One aspect can't live without the others - trust me I know from experience.

[@willliv7990]

This really hits home for me. I'm a 21 year old Male I do cross fit 5 to 6 days a week. I train with friends but it's literally the only time we get together now a days is when we're training. We do 2 workouts some times 3 every session. At first I was training my ass off and seeing amazing gains with strength and cardio. But I'm starting to feel burnt out. I feel like the reason I started was because I was low key depressed and was just trying to get out of the hole I'm In and I feel like if I got in amazing shape my life would just turn around. Well now here I am and I'm in pretty good shape but I feel like my depression is getting stronger everyday. I think it's because I had my goals set in a short term mindset. Also the "social" part of the discussion was really hitting home because I see my Friends everyday when we workout but they don't always feel like friends. I feel like everyone is there for themselves. But that could also be me just overthinking it. And it doesn't help that I've been single for years now and now that I'm in shape I've been talking to girls and have been getting rejected. And I don't take rejection very well and that fuels my depression which in turn effects my performance when training cross fit. I've always been known as a handsome guy with a great body but I think my personality is just dull to people. But it's just who I am. Also doesn't help that I'm unemployed and living with my parents still. I'm in fire fighting school but our school has been delayed for weeks now because of the corona virus. I'm just stuck at this point in my life and it is very frustrating but I'm trying to stay positive...sorry for my whole life story lol I just feel like I needed to vent to the Internet for once lol

[@TheHonzaPohl]

How did you gain good amount of strenght with crossfit with training almost everyday? I'm thinking about signing up for Crossfit month of training, but in the past I was just exhausted from the cardio stuff all the time. With strenght comes muscles and size,which is also my goal,cause I am skinny with Belly fat all my adult life. 22 y.o, university student, Central Europe.

[@dhlml]

Check out Charisma on Command channel..as for girls, e.g. Girls Chase has a lot of great advice. It's funny how similar all human endeavors essentially are - you train, you analyze, you improve. Working out, social skills, girls.. anything can be learned with good advices, attitude, and the grind:)

[@sourboydrummer]

Love that Jocko’s knife has it’s own personality here

[@ryans6186]

Echo is the shit. He adds so much to the podcast.

[@bak1386]

If u dont get out socially and have fun and just loosen up a little bit, u will absolutely regret that later in life. Like jocko says it will help u in your training too. I'm no expert like Jocko but u have to break away from the regimen sometimes and hang out. That's crazy for a 17 yr old, props to him bc I was a a reckless fool when I was 17 lol

[@nicolasdimatteo3356]

I love Jocko is holding a knife when he speaks

[@dimonwhite02]

I loved the question. I’m 17 from UK and I’m super driven, and I have isolated myself from people who aren’t good for me. Who aren’t as driven as I am. I think that helps me. I have like 3 good friends, a very supportive family and I feel amazing. I miss out on parties, miss out on girls, but that’s ok. I think self awareness is the key. If you feel lonely, go do more stuff with people. If you feel perfectly fine rejecting invitations to stay in your zone and work, stay and work.

[@EdwardGFunk]

your mom and I are super driven too

[@DonWick_Actual]

I love the fact Jocko is giving life wisdom with a stiletto in his hand lol!!! Next vid please speak whilst holding a tomahawk.

[@MTD4dz]

Jocko casually podcasting with a knife in hand, like a boss 💪💪💪

[@RobotPanda15]

Big touch on that communication and social aspect. The amount of military personnel and hardcore fight mentality guys I've met that only care about that realm and end up in terrible situations because they can't speak to human beings that have nothing to do with their core topics is upsetting.

[@ericlummus7856]

PLEASE do a podcast with David Goggins

[@miked.5089]

E L GOGGINS!!!!!!

[@williamwebster8367]

As a Navy Veteran I am requesting and have been waiting for this

[@ericlummus7856]

William Webster it would make for an incredible podcast.

[@Everheartt]

Agreed, please. His book was amazing

[@chrishandsome4267]

Goggins is wayyy to over the top

[@digitt2]

Bucket list task added 12/29/2018, Give a serious talk about a serious subject with a knife.

[@Channel-rm8yh]

D (correction)...with a “serious” knife...with a friend with “serious” guns!

[@akirathedon]

🌊 ＤＩＳＣＩＰＬＩＮＥ　＝　Ａ　ＨＡＰＰＹ　ＮＥＷ　ＹＥＡＲ 🌊

[@bumkis4424]

You gonna make a jocko mix?

[@betterthenorganicproduce2897]

I love listening to you guys thank you for your work and your service.

[@ryanstocks4298]

Can we all just appreciate Echo's biceps throughout this whole clip. Dude's looking absolutely stacked

[@f2wtech110]

@jocko I am a former Airman and recently just discovered your podcast and have been listening to it to and from my hour long commute to work. I just want to first say thank you for your service and also want to say thank you for this podcast. It gets my head in the game every morning to help me be the best me for myself and coworkers and allows me to be the best me for myself and my family every evening on my way home. I love the episode where you went through Col. Hackworths Q&A's about Vietnam (my father a former Vietnam vet 1st Battalion 5th infantry)! With his responses and you breaking down his answers, it gave me a better understanding on that War. Keep charging Jocko and you as well Echo

[@maxdavies5776]

I think that shapes alot of who jocko is as a person. Having the power to just crush ppl but choosing to be thoughtful & understanding.

[@NightHoundd11]

Jocko and Echo are a blessing from a divinity

[@littleripper312]

When I was first learning to draw seriously I would draw like 5-15 hours a day everyday. I would do sessions of learning that were way too long and wasn't improving that much. When I broke up my learning sessions into intense 30 minutes with short breaks and started taking days off from learning I actually learnt much quicker. It's counter intuitive but taking breaks and resting actually makes you grow and improve faster.

[@aprildice1064]

Now you can draw like John Wayne

[@ThorMaximus]

Wisdom. Truth. I was similar in HS with basketball - lonely & isolated. It was in 1990s; but this memory still stays with me. Prior to start of practice when everyone is just shooting-I’m at one end. All 23 other Varsity & JV players at the other end. I remember it feeling so wrong, knowing they likely made so many degrading remarks about me as I was so disliked-a combination of pride & humiliation at the same time. I would not go to that end; I wasn’t “popular” & had trouble making friends: COMMUNICATION & SOCIAL SKILLS. What stands with me is how I remember just getting into rhythm; making shot after shot. I remember the sound of the ball just brushing through the net touching no rim. I was first team-but I hadn’t been able to practice shooting like that with our practice schedule. I remembered how good I was again. When the team captains yelled at me with practice to officially start-I had a choice: say something or just fall into line. I did the latter. To this day I think of that as an example of when to stand up for self and principles. I didn’t. It wasn’t till my father stepped in with that it happened-and it needed to happen. But how good I was didn’t matter if I held no respect.

[@betodegdl]

Thanks for all the advice, everytime I listen to your podcast I learn something that's gonna help me in life.

[@CyberNancy]

I raced bicycles for years. The people I trained and raced with were my social crew as well. We shared time on and off the bike. They were magical days.

[@combatxhoop7069]

Man I like Jocko a lot, he's about balance in every little things in life, rather than grinding non stop which creates dissatisfaction

[@DubTurd]

I’m a biology student. In my first year I used to smoke weed almost every evening: wake up - school - gymtime - study - weed. Every day. I got A grades and it all seemed to go effortlessly, especially in the bodybuilding area. Now, somewhere in my second year I decided to maximize my capabilities and one part of that was quitting weed. At least, I thought so. I planned a six month break of weed use (and alcohol too btw) that I quite effortlessly went through. More clarity. Grades were the same. But at the same time, school started to demand more and more of me and if I do something I want to do it 100%. So giving 100% for school and 100% for fitness just wasn’t realistic anymore (and because I ofcourse constantly failed to achieve 100% in both areas, my self-esteem dropped). I already smoked weed once after the 6 month break which made me remember why I quit. Small amount of time passed and I smoked again. For 4 days. A straight smoking binge into the underworld. And quite surprisingly, it had some profound effects (and by this time my motivation for school also dropped and I couldn’t go to the gym anymore due to school’s demands). I felt.. rejuvinated a few days after my smoking binge. Everything had a new freshness to it. And I instinctively knew why: I was deloaded of stress and every tension that had accumulated due to school stress. Since then I just smoke weed every three weeks or so, to deload, and without feeling bad. I don’t even perform on my A level again in the gym, but that doesn’t matter. I’m feel more balanced out because of these allowed breaks. Chaos and order y’know.

[@ypherrist2792]

Being a Doctor will have you struggling to achieve balance throughout your life.

[@lukeakerboom6298]

So good sir. 21 years old and needed this. Definitely can see the proclivity for burnout. I almost have my degree and am heading into military. As one told me nobody likes to eat "butter bars" or swallow eggs and flour, but we all love cake. Balance goes a long way and this is something I needed. Thank you.

[@lukeakerboom6298]

@M Muss The Navy

[@maxdavies5776]

To me its being a good and decent person no matter what the world throws at u.

[@tumultuousforce6204]

This came at the perfect time, thank you!

[@chrispendleton9132]

Just fell in love with this podcast

[@beauferguson9535]

Life is an exercise of balancing activities!!! 🏁🏁🏁👍

[@DaveSabol]

And holy crap. Echo is legitimately. The striations in his biceps and forearms are off the charts.

[@a.eddynangia7101]

Those are tatoos brother

[@DaveSabol]

@@a.eddynangia7101 Regardless, earned, not given without permission. I have my own. They tell a story. It starts and ends with discipline, regardless of how they were earned! Much respect.

[@JenkinsStevenD]

Per my physical therapist: 36 hours between exercise of same muscle groups so the muscles have time to heal and the tendons have time to contract. (Can lift every day, just not same muscle groups) 39 seconds minimum between sets so the muscles restore their energy capacity. (Unfortunately some people take the 39 second minimum to mean they can occupy the equipment for 20 minutes)

[@johnnymartinez478]

Social life is important especially when young you can make time for both especially at 17 I’m older as train with most of my free time because I enjoy wouldn’t be doing anything else but I also put those talent points into personality when I was younger so the fact you are asking about it means ya you should go out

[@HealthyMBS1]

Also, for many people, saying "Wanna role?" and calling it your "social interaction with other people" time, isn't going to be enough. Maybe coordinate an afternoon BBQ with a couple of your training partners to get a little deeper connection and more conversation.

[@J_Rodriguez956]

Awesome keep kicking ass.

[@swapnilchand338]

Oh. And here i am thinking that working out and chasing dreams will naturally make you isolated. And then when i compare myself with my peers who are more social i feel bad. I think balance is needed and it's better if you are lonely in order to stay motivated. I do have to admit that i have felt suicidal at times when i thought my dreams are so far away and i have no one to share my pain and trouble with. I'm a loner now and i crave to be in a relationship at times too. Looks like i should make friendships a habit and go meet people deliberately.

[@thomasminarik9588]

Love you guys great show great advise Thank You all for your sacrfices and services 👍💪✌

[@CoupeDominic]

When you mentioned girls, I feel like the guy thought “girls.. what are those?” Haha

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

I have been reading (and using) the I Ching for the last few months. Echo's recounting of a life experience that demonstrated an example of the process of Yin and Yang in building and creating a result, is something i need constant reminding of. I need constant cajoleing about the need to submit myself to nature and her ways, or at least her laws. The old masters, to name a few: Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, urged living by nature's laws but it has never been clear to me how to properly do this. But the I Ching is helping as is The Art of War.

[@EdwardGFunk]

lol

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

I did laugh, for about a minute, after reading your comment. :)

[@clgmafnas]

I understand the drive to hit that "10,000" hour standard, but its true...balance is key. Plus 100 for the armory display by echo, brandishing those guns AND Jocko for the stiletto pointer. 🤘🏼

[@travv88]

I'm having trouble in this area. I think if you don't balance and just focus too much on the grind it can be depressing and that will actually detract from your ability to grind effectively. Of course there are some beasts who can just grind on and on no problem. Wish I was one of them lol.

[@irineosk6843]

I agree. You need to deviate and find different ways but for the same purpose therefore you're not getting sick of the grind.

[@Ellobothe1]

Discipline is freedom homie

[@ssj4godzilla]

Jocko says there is room for variation, everyone needs different things. Like his example where some people need 4 hours sleep, some people need 8 hours. I don't think Jocko wants to detract from anybody's happiness with his principles, but be careful not to use your happiness as an excuse to not get after it! Peter Hayssen below has a GREAT answer to this, too

[@chriswoodall4902]

Also, if I could add.. Surround yourself with others trying to achieve the same thing, or similar things.. even generally speaking. You can still go at that pace and not be lonely..

[@andyluong3780]

Couldn’t have said it any better 👏

[@מיכאלמרטיןבנדיקטוס]

What they are saying is true for studies and work as well

[@Man0fSteell]

Wise Man. RESPECT

[@maxdavies5776]

Beating the world champion. It took around 7 years of almost 24/7 dedication bar school.

[@jacksonschilling6022]

There is nothing more important than jiujitsu and fitness

[@crashgsxr750]

When I found jocko this KZbin channel had 70,000 subscribers, DAMN! even the channel is getting echo arms yoked

[@juanadolfomolinagodoy917]

Thank You Jocko for this video. #getsome

[@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg]

That's a good video. Also, why did KZbin put two ads into a 10 min video? One at 3 mins in and one at 8 mins?

[@DaveSabol]

Efficiency. I agree. But you need to establish balance. I should have responded earlier because I agreed with you when I listened, then I watched this! There is more then BJJ (or any other activity that you're passionate about) but it can't consume you at the expense of everything else! Get after it, but keep everything in balance!

[@wlupusborealis]

I have immense respect for Jocko and am learning tons from him. But I will say this out of humility to others who taught me along the way. Not sleeping properly or enough _is_ dumb, just like too many reps instead of integrating/spreading shorter sets into your day. Occasional high-volume exercise is fine, but it's better to grease the groove and never train too close to fatigue. You can do more with less. Spread it out. Focus on technique, not on burn-out. Think in terms of years and decades in how you work things into your hours and days. Everyone has blind-spots. Give Jocko another 10-15 years without altering his regiment and he'll wear down prematurely and won't have the old-age vigour of Pavel Tsatsouline who trains/lives for the long haul. All the jiujitsu is a good anchor, but I'm interested in sustaining asymmetrical training over years and that's when you need to consult people who are still thriving in their old age.

[@wlupusborealis]

Have a look at Tsatsouline's books, StrengthFirst, kettlebell and pre-WW2 training techniques. Pavel sums things up pretty nicely in his interview with Rogan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ6TeIGNiLCtj9U

[@maxdavies5776]

I got my brown belt in 6 weeks . My life fell apart when my folks split & i quit school & started smoking & drinking.

[@maxdavies5776]

Define success.

[@EncyclicalPrograms]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[@benanderson4639]

I train like hell between biking, running and lifting, and school and other things make it so I can barely get the time to even see my girlfriend, I've learned that the best way to be both social and train is to find people to train with.

[@marvizu21]

Echo whats a typical arm workout for you

[@williamcopper4958]

Echo must have had an arm day before recording. Swole!

[@SaulFein]

I would love to see a discussion of the book "War Is A Racket" by General Smedley D. Butler

[@andrewschrock6600]

Jocko do you credit all of your knowledge and motivation to being in the SEAL teams or something else? I have trouble staying motivated to doing things like school (homeschooled) and working out etc. and I’m just curious as to what motivates you and gives you the discipline to continue. Sorry if you’ve already answered this but I haven’t found anything on it in the short time I’ve looked.

[@mdaxe]

Watch his Podcasts with Jordan B. Peterson. I think there are three out there currently as I am writing this comment. One thing to understand is that this Universe has some universal laws that applies to everybody. There are multiple ways to accumulate the same knowledge/experience and for some things there is one specific way. In Podcasts with Jordan Peterson, Jocko realizes that lessons he has learned as a seal is the same lessons Jordan has learned as an academian. Meanwhile we have the opportunity to learn from both of these guys without really doing "the heavy lifting" as we can take the lessons and sources they give us and apply directly in what we are doing in our life. Many (also Jocko) have said that motivation is BS, it get's nothing done, it just get's you going. What you need to find is your drive, your why. Simon Sinek, I think, has a work on this matter called "Start with Why". Don't ask what you want to be in this life, but what do you want to do? What do you want to create? Also Jocko's book "Discipline equals freedom" would give you the answers you seek as it has his thought patterns written in it. Beautiful work. As I understand it, it also has much to do with what Jordan Peterson explains from psychological point of view - make a decision and act upon it.

[@mdaxe]

I hope this helped a bit, I know I am not Jocko, but maybe you get something out of my point of view.

[@andrewschrock6600]

mdaxe Thank you for replying and for your insight! They make perfect sense. I’ll be sure to watch those videos.

[@farazsiddiqui7171]

Jocko is definitely a special person. Seal team probably helped him with that but that’s not it. Because there are other seals who are lazy and undisciplined like any other civilian. Don’t chase motivation. It’s here one day and gone the next. Be disciplined. Read his book discipline equals freedom or better listen to it on Spotify. I guarantee you will start getting your shit together. Guarantee. ;)

[@andrewschrock6600]

Faraz Siddiqui That’s a valid point and I haven’t thought about that tbh. I didn’t know it was on Spotify! I got a lot of listening to do. Thanks man!

[@aprildice1064]

Echo doesn't get lonely as he has two separate forms of life on each arm Two rhinos

[@Ray-jg5dj]

Don't neglect your social life. Especially when you're young.

[@maximilianogrillo7497]

i started de joko challenge two months ago and counting #earlyriser ...

[@lonniesmith6539]

Echo makes a compelling argument. I work to provide for my wife and kids. Does that mean I should spend all my time at work? If that was the case I would be neglecting the other needs of my family. A child needs time with their father and a wife needs time with her husband. So I try to restrict work to fifty four hours. I get the over time but still have the weekends to be a father and husband.

[@jarrod_driveline2082]

Always difficult to balance the grind and life.

[@PosyLubelak]

That was a great answer :)

[@JhoferGamer]

Looking jacked, echo

[@ninjaslayer4568]

Jacko doesn’t communicate with his hands jacko communicates with his knife

[@TSM345]

Yep, Jacko sure does love his knives..

[@UserName-ii1ce]

Curls=Freedom

[@troyn7511]

Echo , your arm striations are like none ive ever seen in this world. wow.

[@gt2769]

Freedom in Finance its a tattoo lol

[@troyn7511]

@@gt2769 I need to get my eyes checked haha

[@FatalHerSelf_2372]

Sometimes life has to be vague, if life tells you directly what life wants then what's the point of leaning about life if life just tells you shit directly. Plus it also counts on the intention the person telling and receiving the information. Idk if that makes sense lmao, I might just be confusing my self.

[@JK-vc7ie]

Everyone already knows that a balanced and well rounded life is optimal. You can want it to be otherwise but that’s not how it is.

[@Channel-rm8yh]

Get JOCKOS field manual, it’s got all the secrets of the life of “Getting After It”...see if you can also help with the kids class and ask professor other things you can volunteer like cleaning mats or bathroom duty.

[@bmonty1915]

Jocko's Podcast's have convinced me that well balanced individuals don't accomplish much.

[@codyufc1]

Church, BJJ and family is all you need for a right balance

[@fabioviniciusnovaesvieira2766]

Guest request: Nicholas "The Reaper" Irving

[@googleuser6971]

Echo used to put the podcast # the excerpt was from...I guess slacking is part of the game now! 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@snowa550]

Ep 151. Sorry Forgot to add it to the description thats my fault I will fix it.

[@chtulurr]

W with a knife: Son im dissappoint Me: yes sir

[@cooperfuller9524]

When starting on the path to be a world champion, an active social life should slowly become less of a priority over time. Right at the start, it shouldn’t be an all-or-nothing grind; there should be balance. But that balance should slowly be tipped in favor of training-slowly, over time. Eventually (keyword is eventually) your life will be about training; eventually your social life will become pretty much non-existent; but at that point, you won’t notice it. The transition from balance to all-out grind should be imperceptible.

[@owlfreebird7428]

Life is a balance because if one tetters to far your life will be thrown off.

[@maxdavies5776]

U know . Jujitsu especially teaches philosophy . Martial arts is very respectful of ppl.

[@davidthomas4065]

Your muscles have to rest or else they’ll be damaged. Ha! A metaphor for life.

[@rickniu4153]

2:00 but.. as a Powerlifting fanatic I AM smiling ear to ear that I get to squat and DL every day D:

[@Adam-nk4oj]

Echo's biceps are stupidly humongously magnificently large

[@booksforprogress5307]

Some of the best friends you will find are at the dojo or academy

[@armorsmith43]

And if you *are* spending lots of time on FB? Thats like chewing ice due to to vitamin deficiency. Call a friend and have some mindful focused social time.

[@nickclapsu4428]

Do a podcast with goggins

[@deezypnw9284]

I dont know about Echo, but uh, I was watching that knife.

[@christinamariehicks1078]

Linked everything you can ..

[@renegade453youtube7]

Wow I’ve been watching so many videos from jocko, goggins and peterson and its fucking confusing ... I just don’t know what to do anymore

[@arsenicempyrean7566]

Yo I'm in the same situation. Any tips after a year?

[@blucious4882]

I have been warned+ Got you.

[@tylerwisniowski5825]

Maybe some days I like to sleep on the couch.

[@mellow-jello]

It appears that the 17-year old is blindly taking up BJJ without an end goal, or target. Reminder, that time is limited, so making himself well-rounded with his social circle is important in your teens. Choose your time wisely, especially building better relationships.

[@haark655]

I was less of a man. I didn’t like echo. I became more of a man. Now I like echo.