Joe Asks Mel Gibson On How He Feels About Evolution

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@kyleVanZan
@kyleVanZan 6 күн бұрын
The humility to just say "I don’t know" is beautiful.
@umwha
@umwha 6 күн бұрын
he literally says humans have souls and animals don't. he was sure about that
@cnw3903
@cnw3903 5 күн бұрын
He said a lot of dumb shit with so much confidence
@jasondawdy5524
@jasondawdy5524 4 күн бұрын
​@@cnw3903It might sound dumb to you, but have you ever considered that it could actually be true? Of course not. Because you would be the ignorant one. Gotta protect your ego at all costs. Yet it will be your downfall. Embrace humility for once.
@benohara284
@benohara284 2 күн бұрын
Do you think gravity is real...... i don't know.... 😂😂😂😂
@theorem31
@theorem31 2 күн бұрын
God knows, I do not
@jsj31313jj
@jsj31313jj 7 күн бұрын
Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest scientist of all time. He wrote this, "This most beautiful system of sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being".
@brainworm666
@brainworm666 6 күн бұрын
There's been some 300 years of science since his death. This weird appeal to authority you're doing is rather silly.
@jsj31313jj
@jsj31313jj 6 күн бұрын
@brainworm666 "Life can only be understood backwards but it must be lived forwards" -Soren Keirkegaard
@brainworm666
@brainworm666 6 күн бұрын
@ Nice quote. What does that have to do with anything?
@brainworm666
@brainworm666 3 күн бұрын
@ what are they right about?
@Paul-fm4iz
@Paul-fm4iz 5 сағат бұрын
He also lived in a time where denial of God was illegal and could result in corporal punishment
@WaySerious
@WaySerious 9 күн бұрын
Joe was fighting everything from saying we’re monkeys on a rock shooting thru space
@jnw729
@jnw729 8 күн бұрын
Joe will be a Christian by three years from now
@charliedorman7460
@charliedorman7460 8 күн бұрын
😂
@gps9715
@gps9715 8 күн бұрын
I don't why this say 41 likes. It should 4.1k likes.
@CanadianBestcountry
@CanadianBestcountry 8 күн бұрын
Joe shot reality and common sense into Mel the wife beater
@thedailyruns6046
@thedailyruns6046 8 күн бұрын
​@gps9715 because its probably mostly christians right now for this episode.
@tomaszszymanski4324
@tomaszszymanski4324 5 күн бұрын
The way how Mel Gibson talks and acts, reminds me a little bit of Jack Nicholson.
@Joshua-nt5nh
@Joshua-nt5nh 3 күн бұрын
So you could end the scene there…but if you leave the tape rolling…
@brians1902
@brians1902 9 күн бұрын
Evolution aside. I like the way Mel discusses it. He says 'sure' at the same time not capitulating.
@GMCvideos2012
@GMCvideos2012 6 күн бұрын
Mel cannot be outsmarted by Joe, sorry.
@billdoor3140
@billdoor3140 6 күн бұрын
He rushed off to the toilet whilst clearly getting agitated. Then when the camera started rolling again he and joe were off screen talking. Then they totally changed the subject. He obviously wanted off screen to tell joe to stop talking about it 😂
@GMCvideos2012
@GMCvideos2012 6 күн бұрын
@ Also, his house was burning down.
@Papaspronator
@Papaspronator 6 күн бұрын
@@billdoor3140 he literally got a text during the broadcast telling him that his house was being burnt down back home. I think that had something to do with it. 😂
@briannau3449
@briannau3449 6 күн бұрын
Right? It's not cool to agree with something that's been disproven for almost 2 centuries now
@franciscojosesubirana103
@franciscojosesubirana103 6 күн бұрын
I really agree with the boldness of Mel while answering "I don't know": most of this questions have not a clear answer for a reason...But he stated his opinion, by the way!
@lightningrod1063
@lightningrod1063 12 күн бұрын
The unwillingness to say, "I don't know." Sometimes it's perfectly obvious when someone doesn't know. It shouldn't be painful for anyone to admit if they don't know something. To have Faith means you believe something, but you can't prove it. If you could prove it, you wouldn't call it Faith. Since it can't be proven, it's strange being unable to say "I don't know."
@BattleBrotherCasten
@BattleBrotherCasten 12 күн бұрын
Intuition is its own type of knowing.
@Darth_Tuna
@Darth_Tuna 12 күн бұрын
He said “I don’t know” SEVERAL times
@KOH777-gp6ut
@KOH777-gp6ut 12 күн бұрын
Valid point; but God does prove himself in various ways. Also in experiences as real and more powerful than what can be explained. Visions while awake, knowledge shared which is not known to you, love powerful and pure enough to overcome a strong man and put him to the ground in tears. The proof is out there but many do not look or do not want to look for various reasons. In my case it took 49 years of not really looking; though I thought to myself that I had. Jesus is real. Alive and well and he does speak to people in various ways. If you ever get the call; then New Testament and speak to him in earnest and ask him to show you that he is real. He did this when I went to him in pure desperation and when I was willing to ask in earnest and to try things his way. He helped me and he gave me faith as a gift. I could never muscle it up or believe what I could not see and touch. It didn't matter. He is God and he can reveal the truth and he changes hearts and minds. This is my long way of trying to say that you can know.
@unknown-pmc
@unknown-pmc 10 күн бұрын
@ 3:25 Why do you want him to specifically say "I don't know" You can read between the lines that he is saying he doesn't fully know, but he doesn't buy into the evolution theory because he believes in God and the word of God which is the Bible, and it pretty much explains generally what we are as Humans and is not favorable to this "something comes from nothing". The Bible also doesn't really delve into the origin of satan or the whole backstory between God and his fallen angles in detail, but gives us enough to know. Same thing with creation, God gives us enough to know.
@axvan2158
@axvan2158 9 күн бұрын
You're fundamentally flawed and hence in life as well. Christian faith is different in the fact that it has to bear evidences and there are if you seek them with honesty and not with that stupid and lofty attitude. Second, I've learnt of evolution with the best papers out there combined with linguistics, guess what, EVOLUTION IS THE FAIRY TALE, NOT FAITH IN BIBLICAL JESUS.
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 8 күн бұрын
Just because we evolved into being doesn't mean a higher creative intelligence didn't plan the whole deal. You can believe in evolution AND divine providence and intelligent design.
@derek4412
@derek4412 8 күн бұрын
This is the only intelligent take. There's no other way that makes sense.
@OttoByOgraffey
@OttoByOgraffey 8 күн бұрын
No you can't, according to my Professor, Christian , sister.
@krezleon942
@krezleon942 8 күн бұрын
But in science, the assertion with the least amount of assumptions is accepted, and your belief contains a huge assumption about the existence of an intelligence force behind creation. Evolution can be explained without any supernatural interference and it'll explain it just as well, if not with less assumptions
@elijahknox4421
@elijahknox4421 8 күн бұрын
​@@krezleon942your belief contains an assumption that universe was created spontaneously from absolutely nothing
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831 8 күн бұрын
Not if you believe in modern neo-darwinian evolution. By definition it is opposed to teleology. The "natural selection" is a purposely phrased to oppose any "design, purpose, goal." How could God guide an unguided process? If you believe God guided evolution, then technically you fall into the "Intelligent Design" camp.
@ShonenFreakTV
@ShonenFreakTV 12 күн бұрын
I like the bit where he doesn't want to be in Scorsese's movie.
@back40flopdogg30
@back40flopdogg30 7 күн бұрын
Because he wants to direct the movie. Compare passion to the last temptation. Very different portrayals of christ and how his final months went down.
@ShonenFreakTV
@ShonenFreakTV 6 күн бұрын
@ and then he returns to finding Keith Richards nuttin in his hotel room
@AntonySimmonds
@AntonySimmonds 7 күн бұрын
These podcasts are brilliant great interaction 👍👏
@FlowHealingOasis2.0
@FlowHealingOasis2.0 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely EPIC 😅
@keitha.lefkowitz4928
@keitha.lefkowitz4928 7 күн бұрын
I believe evolution can't make the brain the eyes the skeleton. Design is so amazing and God worthy of all praise ❤️
@ilbux74
@ilbux74 7 күн бұрын
Puahauhauhaaa
@OurLittleFarm7
@OurLittleFarm7 5 күн бұрын
Creationist viewpoints can indeed be scientifically proven. Joe needs to interview people who are creationist scientists to get more scientific explanations. I've watched lectures on carbon dating and other such things from a creationist viewpoint and in debates and it's very easy to argue against by someone who is educated in this area. Some of us believe God's word by faith because, well , He's "God", He is the Creator. I totally understand looking for answers to our questions so we can believe and God provides answers for us as we search with all our heart. "Search for Me and you will find Me when you search for Me with all your heart". God is the Creator, true science comes through this knowledge. Having heard Joe ask questions about God and Christian beliefs, I truly believe he is searching for more and wants to believe. Praying for Joe to find the Way, the Truth, and the Life 🙏
@stefanfun
@stefanfun 3 күн бұрын
The problem with these creationist "scientists" is, they all operate opposite to how science is supposed to work. They start with a conclusion, which is that their dogma is true, and then try to reason their way backwards. Being attached to a religious dogma makes the brain do all kinds of irrational loops.
@za-ir5ni
@za-ir5ni 3 күн бұрын
Not a single creationist belief has been proven lol
@gutcassidyandthesundancech5925
@gutcassidyandthesundancech5925 3 күн бұрын
This is moronic hogwash, every sentence you typed.
@The_Naughty_Kitten
@The_Naughty_Kitten 3 күн бұрын
​@@za-ir5ni nor has an evolution one - mathematically or chemically; evolution is not possible. 😊 nothing dead can produce Life.
@user-eg6nq7qt8c
@user-eg6nq7qt8c 9 күн бұрын
Humans experience time linearly, God does not. It doesn't really matter how much time it took to create the universe, develop life and eventually humans. Whatever humans discover about that process doesn't disprove God, it only reveals a glimpse of his work. These 2 ideas: evolution and intelligent design don't need to be in tension.
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 8 күн бұрын
God told us He created the world in 6 days and the genealogies in Genesis prove that the earth is merely a few thousand years old. He also told us that organisms being forth after their own kind. So, no, there is tension between Intelligent design, if the God of Abraham is the designer, and evolution.
@CadillacJak
@CadillacJak 8 күн бұрын
Exactly
@CadillacJak
@CadillacJak 8 күн бұрын
​@@AP-di6guyou can't say that a day was a 24 hour period back then it's all interpretation from old writings so a day could be 10,000 years we have no clue
@Johnsmith-j5u
@Johnsmith-j5u 8 күн бұрын
@@CadillacJak a day isn't defined as 24 hour and they used to be shorter
@coolslimm5105
@coolslimm5105 8 күн бұрын
U would know right
@forthepeople1664
@forthepeople1664 7 күн бұрын
I like when someone can say I don’t know. It’s a sign of humility and intellect. I’d like to know if there are better methods to measure age of materials. Mr. Gibson may be right, without quantum sensing we are a bit in the dark. Let’s just admit that now!
@Stanley-k7u
@Stanley-k7u 5 күн бұрын
Nothing about this clip showed intellect. He showed a tremendous amount of faith. But there was no intellect involved.
@salvatoredantes1690
@salvatoredantes1690 5 күн бұрын
You like it because the truth bothers you. Saying you dont know is marketing for new friends. Its for ppl with no balls.. u like no balls..U dont need friends. You need the truth.
@houndbadger5240
@houndbadger5240 12 күн бұрын
God bless mel gibson 🙏
@JohnJohn-cu7nk
@JohnJohn-cu7nk 8 күн бұрын
Lol
@IHateThoseNWords
@IHateThoseNWords 8 күн бұрын
Don’t forget to zip it up when you’re down there. Wipe your mouth too
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 күн бұрын
​@@JohnJohn-cu7nki don't agree with everything he says but he seems like a good and honest man. Why not bless him?
@JohnJohn-cu7nk
@JohnJohn-cu7nk 7 күн бұрын
@newhybrid101 I like him , he's a really colourful interesting person. LIKE the saying goes, dont bring up politics or religion 🙄
@wattoplays6332
@wattoplays6332 7 күн бұрын
It's hard not to bring up religion when he literally directed PASSION OF THE CHRIST!
@petervermeer.4904
@petervermeer.4904 7 күн бұрын
It does make a difference. Because are ancestors didn't start out 8000 years ago, and also not 4000 years ago. On the coast of Spain, naming just one place, humans lived 100.000 years ago. They survived (some of them) ice ages and everything you can imagine, Rhino's crocodiles Sabertooth Cats. Mammoths. Bears. Wolves. Those people were giants (not literally) but it's very impressive what they did.
@lorinhaco6476
@lorinhaco6476 7 күн бұрын
annunka?
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 7 күн бұрын
That's what they say, but the problem is, there's been cases where radio carbon dating has been unreliable.
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 6 күн бұрын
Annunaki
@jamaicanjuice8684
@jamaicanjuice8684 5 күн бұрын
@@jmz2144no, nephilim.
@NYUArchaeology
@NYUArchaeology 5 күн бұрын
Yacub story says the white race was created and put in those caves. You better be careful buddy and do your homework. Some white peoples know that history. Ben Franklin knew and wrote a book on it in 1700s. Hitler knew and copied it to make his own aryan race. I'm a historian and egypt was black ethiopian. A city of medical colleges that ran for 100k years was in Kemet, Egypt. Kush. Chemistry and astronomy and the letters I'm using now invented there. Surgery. Grafting. ALL INSECTS NAMED THERE. No white race was walking planet then. It gets very very very very extremely interesting. Extremely. Unreal. The Sahara desert was an ocean then. That fact alone gives you another planet itself. Sahara is as big as america. It's sand now. At one time it was tropical. That history takes your mind into the cynecinophili black people,nephiliam and every being that was described by herodotus and Pliny the elder in bc times. St.christopher was a cynecinophili. That race of people existed. Described in detail by Columbus,Marco polo,asian kings.etc. Carthage was ethiopian black also. Etruscans also. Andromeda. Medusa was a naga tribe woman with braids not snakes. She was a TITAN. All titans were the ethiopians. Do your homework.
@idontknow8898
@idontknow8898 9 күн бұрын
I love that he says i dont know and even aaks Joe to explain then still admits he doesnt get it then leans back into his faith . I love that integrity so much
@matiasmartinez8809
@matiasmartinez8809 9 күн бұрын
lol
@joeygrace2464
@joeygrace2464 9 күн бұрын
That’s the easy route of being a christian, you just admit you don’t believe in anything that reality shows us, and lean back ‘cause the most important thing is your claims based in faith.
@samgradyfilm
@samgradyfilm 8 күн бұрын
how tf is that integrity?
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 8 күн бұрын
@@samgradyfilm I was wondering the exact same thing
@gps9715
@gps9715 8 күн бұрын
@@samgradyfilm Well, he is being consistent in his beliefs. Integrity definition: Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. I don't agree at all, and I actually got a laugh out of your comment. But I think OP is correct in his assessment.
@TL-ms2zx
@TL-ms2zx 8 күн бұрын
I like how Joe does not make it a strong argument to convince Mel, like he would or has with other people he has interviewed before. We've seen Joe really push what he believes is real to other people.
@totalsceptic
@totalsceptic 8 күн бұрын
Those other people weren't giving off a vibe that they would jump across the desk and bite his face off!!🤣
@BarbaPamino
@BarbaPamino 8 күн бұрын
Joe doesn't have strong arguments. Only 0.01% of people even come close to understanding the science of evolution. The rest of us just go with it because Mr Science says so. If tomorrow a report came out saying the opposite and the 10 leading scientists in the field all agreed and said there was a new found factor they hadn't accounted for, all Joe would say would be OK. I love how Joe has no problem believing in robot elfs and 911 inside job cover ups but no way could we fake dinosaurs.
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 күн бұрын
​@@totalsceptici don't get that vibe from Mel either. And trust me,Joe would effortlessly handle Mel in a physical altercation. The reason he isnt pushing him is his character and simplicity
@Destroymaster100
@Destroymaster100 7 күн бұрын
its cause he respects his beliefs and doesnt want to try to convince him.
@gregsimmons694
@gregsimmons694 7 күн бұрын
Nice shirt Joe! Lmao! 😂
@vatoloco1528
@vatoloco1528 6 күн бұрын
Whether it's natural selection, random selection, whatever both of those phrases still point to a "Something" doing the selecting. Whether it random or precise.
@dominiquetatum7034
@dominiquetatum7034 11 сағат бұрын
You don't know, neither did Darwin, stop teaching people guess work then in a 100 years we find out a new theory.
@En_theo
@En_theo 6 күн бұрын
- "Do you believe in evolution ?" - "So yesterday we had dinner..." A Jedi tried that trick on me a long time ago. It didn't work back then neither.
@DECIMATOR69
@DECIMATOR69 4 күн бұрын
Him talking about steak happened before Joe asked that question
@dominiquetatum7034
@dominiquetatum7034 11 сағат бұрын
Man if you don't want to believe in God then don't believe in God. Leave the other MF alone who wants to believe in God. No bodys try to force you to do anything.
@brianjamesesq747
@brianjamesesq747 7 күн бұрын
The reason I’m skeptical about evolution is that first single called organism had to both become life and reproduce in that first lifespan. Plus we’ve never observed something go from no life to life.
@YeLizardLords
@YeLizardLords 7 күн бұрын
1:03... When water thinks the pot hole was made specifically for its existence because it fits in it perfectly.
@ryotron8936
@ryotron8936 7 күн бұрын
The reverse logic would say the water is made for the pot hole, which isn't true either.
@YeLizardLords
@YeLizardLords 7 күн бұрын
@ryotron8936 this is true
@jademonolith
@jademonolith 7 күн бұрын
water does not think. Personification is cringe
@YeLizardLords
@YeLizardLords 7 күн бұрын
@jademonolith like your "no duh" statement, really cooked on that one kang... Your simple Simon self is missing the forest for the trees & must not understand neaunce nor metaphor...but you is right "water don't thank" thanks for the carefully clearly clarifying clarification scooter wink 😉
@taranlarousa3082
@taranlarousa3082 Күн бұрын
There’s a guy on youtube named Testify apologetics. He debunks this and explains how it does not debunk the cosmological argument
@drewpowers7236
@drewpowers7236 9 күн бұрын
At 3:33 listen to how he pronounces "evolution" and I think that is a subtle jab he gives to it and reveals who he thinks is truly behind the concept. It really sounds like he says "evil-ution"
@joelt5994
@joelt5994 9 күн бұрын
It's how they pronounce it in the UK I believe, doesn't mean much.
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely. That's Mel's humor.
@WintersWar
@WintersWar 8 күн бұрын
scopes trial reference
@stefaan9218
@stefaan9218 8 күн бұрын
Sounds like a CONSPIRACY THEORY to me
@neoneherefrom5836
@neoneherefrom5836 8 күн бұрын
oh ok cool u guys
@Rotij491
@Rotij491 7 күн бұрын
From reading the comments, people don’t listen to learn anymore. They listen to judge. He has a interesting point of view & he’s having a open conversation with Joe. People should learn how to do that again.
@Rude_Boi
@Rude_Boi 7 күн бұрын
It's the pride of people...
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 7 күн бұрын
Muppet
@gregsimmons694
@gregsimmons694 7 күн бұрын
Nice shirt Joe! Lmao! 🤣
@Rude_Boi
@Rude_Boi 6 күн бұрын
@cthulhucrews6602 A soul is literally a being; or you're being. A d we were all created and made in the image of God for a purpose; not to say that we're better than anyone else because we're all sinners. That isn't pride, friend.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 6 күн бұрын
There is something wrong with alot of these people they have been poisoned physically and mentally most of these adults have the thought process of a normal child it's very odd to see.
@MrBarry465
@MrBarry465 12 күн бұрын
'I don't think' and people providing opinions on topics they have little to no idea about has really wrecked our society.
@user-eg6nq7qt8c
@user-eg6nq7qt8c 9 күн бұрын
So in order to have a functioning society people must be restricted in what opinions they can have and share?
@MrBarry465
@MrBarry465 9 күн бұрын
@user-eg6nq7qt8c no, people can have opinions on whatever they want. The difference is people who have no expertise in an area now have social media platforms to give these opinions and large portions of society have proven they are unable to wade through what is fact and fiction. Why on earth does Mel Gibson's view on evolution hold any weight whatsoever?
@kirstenstrickland1290
@kirstenstrickland1290 9 күн бұрын
Agree 💯
@timbeech2056
@timbeech2056 9 күн бұрын
@@user-eg6nq7qt8c No, they should restrict themselves. If you know fuck all about something don't go on about it like you're an expert. Leave that to actual experts. Don't pretend to know things that you don't.
@ob1kendobe
@ob1kendobe 9 күн бұрын
I promise you disbelief in the idiocy of darwinism hasnt wrecked our society
@maciejdabrowski6694
@maciejdabrowski6694 6 күн бұрын
That’s why actors should be acting,scientists should answer this type of questions.
@Dylanson3
@Dylanson3 6 күн бұрын
Evolution is contrary to Gods word. Just like everything else Bible 1. Earth before sun 2. Ocean before land 3. Light before sun 4. Land plants first 5. Fruit trees before fish 6. Fish before insects 7. Plants before sun 8. Marine mammals first 9. Birds before reptiles 10. Atmosphere between two layers of water 11. Man brought death into the world 12. God created man Evolution/naturalism 1. Sun before earth 2. Land before oceans 3. Sun before light 4. Marine life first 5. Fish before fruit trees 6. Insects before fish 7. Sun before plants 8. Land mammals first 9. Reptiles before birds 10. Atmosphere above water 11. Death brought man into the world 12. Man created God
@shannonschaerer1010
@shannonschaerer1010 2 күн бұрын
Well said!! Thank you for explaining it to those who choose to be ignorant of the FACTS!!
@jasondawdy5524
@jasondawdy5524 4 күн бұрын
Only humans were created in the image of God (and with a soul as Mel mentioned). That's really what sets us apart.
@gregmartin1757
@gregmartin1757 2 күн бұрын
No it's people totally buying in to a made up story.
@mcmfilms
@mcmfilms 9 күн бұрын
Joe asking these questions while wearing a NASA t-shirt is awesome.
@Johnsmith-j5u
@Johnsmith-j5u 9 күн бұрын
What does Nasa have to do with this discussion?
@brendanmcgrath4768
@brendanmcgrath4768 9 күн бұрын
⁠@@Johnsmith-j5upossibly that NASA is literally specialists in a type of science and somebody who doesn’t believe in evolution certainly doesn’t think science is important 🤣😂
@agustinrossi8617
@agustinrossi8617 9 күн бұрын
Werner Bon Braun likes people like Joe wearing NASA shirt
@MrWizardGG
@MrWizardGG 7 күн бұрын
​@@Johnsmith-j5u NASA specifically ties into carbon dating as well. They use chemistry in multiple different ways and probably helped invent carbon dating with that knowledge
@Cormac-jd2kx
@Cormac-jd2kx 7 күн бұрын
@@MrWizardGGNASA lies about moon landings and Mars landings with flies included 😂
@cfiirotorcraft-helicopter
@cfiirotorcraft-helicopter 7 күн бұрын
Did you ever have a glass of water with ice in it. As the ice melted, did you ever see that glass overflow? Nicely said Mel…👏 Proverbs 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
@paulhoward4402
@paulhoward4402 6 күн бұрын
Ice is less dense than liquid water, that’s why it floats. Being less dense means it takes up less space in a container when it melts meaning it won’t overflow. And God designed it that way. God and science are not necessarily separate things.
@fun2badult
@fun2badult 5 күн бұрын
Imagine spitting out some made up sentences trying to explain science when it clearly show you have no clue how science works
@ChrisP-in8qr
@ChrisP-in8qr 4 күн бұрын
@@fun2badult neither do you, One day you'll know the truth when you're in his presence.
@Joseph-ed6hl
@Joseph-ed6hl 12 күн бұрын
6:40, I don’t have a stance on the age of the earth, but when it comes to radiometric/carbon dating, people need to remember it barely became a system in science during the 1900s. It’s still fairly new and I’m sure will the method will change in the future, since science is not absolute and is always changing. I believe there is a counter argument to carbon dating when it comes to diamonds, but I don’t care that much to look that much into it. Joe just makes it seem like it’s an absolute truth and will not change
@damaristighe3227
@damaristighe3227 12 күн бұрын
Joe's opinion is the official opinion = which is sometimes very dogmatic and infuriated when faced with religious doubts. Science can only give a working understanding (rational belief) because the one thing we do know is that major scientific paradigms are subject to revolutions.
@MitchMunchies15
@MitchMunchies15 9 күн бұрын
Yeah Joe loves coming to a conclusion even if it's conjecture. I think he finds enormous comfort in his perceived truths.
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 8 күн бұрын
Just because you don't have the knowledge, doesn't mean the knowledge doesn't exist or no one has it. Radiometric dating is very effective. It's not perfect; no tool is. But to use it as some kind of gotcha against evolution is just comically misinformed and frankly daft. Genetics alone is enough to show that evolution is factual. Everything else simply buttresses that fact. And don't be fooled; every single field that's even tangentially related to evolution supports its validity. Every single one. That's why it's the theory of evolution by natural selection, not the guess of evolution or the hypothesis of evolution
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 8 күн бұрын
@@MitchMunchies15 You may be right about Joe in general, but in this case he's right, even if it's more by luck than judgement
@davidtreece3922
@davidtreece3922 8 күн бұрын
Jo also thinks 1 x 1 is 2
@stateazure
@stateazure 6 күн бұрын
I find it so sad that so many religious people see animals as far beneath humans, I think it explains a lot with how we generally treat them, like we're so superior and special and they are just things without souls.
@realityhittingme
@realityhittingme 6 күн бұрын
Animals and humans are different in case you don't know
@SuperFluffytoaster
@SuperFluffytoaster 6 күн бұрын
​@@realityhittingmeHumans are animals.
@1domcouk
@1domcouk 5 күн бұрын
@@realityhittingme Really. Humans are animals. St Francis worshipped animals.
@mel0214
@mel0214 2 күн бұрын
So let me get this right: you're upset religious people follow teachings, then? Genesis 1:26 Let's us make man in our image after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the livestock. I guess if you're a religious person, you just can ignore that entire chapter.
@stateazure
@stateazure 2 күн бұрын
​@ You don't say! That doesn't mean that humans aren't also animals though. We never stopped being animals at any point in the evolutionary process, and this is why we should much more respect for our animal kin.
@wickedwind76
@wickedwind76 8 күн бұрын
Good for Mel, i have the same thoughts exactly.
@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn
@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn 5 күн бұрын
He is just plain ol Nuts. Like come on!
@martyadams9082
@martyadams9082 3 күн бұрын
Mel Gibson and Roseanne should start a podcast. That would be hilarious.
@imsrini
@imsrini 8 күн бұрын
It's funny how Mel doesn't believe in radiocarbon dating but elsewhere in the very same podcast proudly claims the shroud of Turin has been validated (by radiocarbon dating) 😂 You're picking and choosing the science you like because it validates your faith Mel 🤣
@golDroger88
@golDroger88 8 күн бұрын
I will spel it out to you since you don't seem very bright, when he says he doesn't trust carbon dating what he really means is he doesn't trust the people doing the caron dating, not that he doesn't trust the scientific principle.
@AF-fb6yp
@AF-fb6yp 5 күн бұрын
Well spotted 😂
@Allan-p1g
@Allan-p1g 7 күн бұрын
Mel is one hundred percent correct
@Mabtr_662
@Mabtr_662 7 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
@loui7210
@loui7210 7 күн бұрын
😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
@shannonschaerer1010
@shannonschaerer1010 2 күн бұрын
REALLY!? It sounds to me like he never made it past 7th grade science.
@robg_
@robg_ 8 күн бұрын
There's an old story about God and an atheist having a contest The Atheist said, “I can make man just like you can”, and God said, “go for it”, so he said, “we'll each take some dirt, and we'll make man”, and he started…and God said, “get your own dirt”! Isn't that really the issue atheistic evolutionists can reason for all they want to, except when they get to the beginning. If it is all and where it started, they come up with some big bang and that still doesn't answer the question where all the elements came from that the Big Bang expressed, and they have no way of knowing. Everybody says that evolution is a scientific theory. Evolution is the most unscientific thing you will ever read, not one of their theories can be proven and most of them have been disproven yet we carry it on in our schools and in our culture as if it were in stone how did the world come into being.
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 8 күн бұрын
I like your joke, but whether or not evolution is real, and is the origin of the diversity of life on earth, is a seperate question than what caused the big bang, or is there a god. If someone is arguing evolution is real, and you ask what caused the big bang, and he/she doesnt have an answer, that doesn't then discredit evolution. The theory of natural selection aims to explain the origin of species. How all this diversity on earth emerged, what natural laws affect living things, it doesn't answer questions like why does anything exist? Was there a big bang? What/who created the universe? Is there a god? These are seperate questions. Not knowing the answer to a different question doesnt discredit answers given to others.
@robg_
@robg_ 8 күн бұрын
@@Michael-io6db The bible is the only concrete information that gives us answers. It's more than saying something came from nothing. It would seem that you need more faith to be Atheist and faith of the bible.
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 8 күн бұрын
@robg_ as i said, an advocate of the theory of evolution would argue natural selection is the answer to the question: what is the origin of the diversity of life. Evolution doesnt strive to answer any other question, just as germ theory doesnt strive to answer anything other than why do we get sick. Christian fundamentalism has the answer for the origin of species, for the question what came before life, for the question why are we here. It's just the same answer to each and every question, and it rymes with cod.
@ThePorkchop1787
@ThePorkchop1787 8 күн бұрын
@@robg_ No, the bible is not the only concrete information given to us. It's a book with claims and assertions. Science is what gives us concrete information
@joeychito
@joeychito 6 күн бұрын
The best way i've heard a scientist describe it: "I can explain the entire universe... just give me 1 free miracle."
@beggersu
@beggersu 3 күн бұрын
Mel has got it spot on.
@flavadave3943
@flavadave3943 8 күн бұрын
I think if Steven Meyer had been sitting at Mel’s side, every position he holds would’ve been validated to wet credible degree. Unless I’ve been misinformed, there are actually numerous issues with carbon dating. And I wish he’d been able to articulate those. But like he said, he doesn’t need to.
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 8 күн бұрын
You've been misinformed
@johnd3233
@johnd3233 8 күн бұрын
​@@getasimbeYou're uneducated
@andrewkathe3471
@andrewkathe3471 8 күн бұрын
Steven Meyer is a joke
@flavadave3943
@flavadave3943 8 күн бұрын
@ lol I’m sure you’re much more intelligent. Why don’t you take a second, and tell us exactly why he’s a joke.
@jindrichsander7271
@jindrichsander7271 8 күн бұрын
​@@getasimbe he isn't
@Ronin-Cross
@Ronin-Cross 8 күн бұрын
Evolutionists act like abiogenesis isn't a belief based on faith.
@jordanwhite8567
@jordanwhite8567 7 күн бұрын
It is at this time, sure. But you can see the evidence of evolution all throughout time without knowing exactly how abiogenesis occurred. They’re two separate issues. Maybe abiogenesis was biblical creation, maybe it was all through chemistry and physics. Doesn’t take anything away from the theory of evolution either way.
@LifeAsALayman
@LifeAsALayman 5 күн бұрын
Faith is not the same thing as a reasonable inference.
@craigperry3948
@craigperry3948 3 күн бұрын
Birds. Jurassic Park taught me that when I was 6😂
@raiderdefendant2225
@raiderdefendant2225 7 күн бұрын
Look at all of life clearly there is a creator. a designer
@mattt21
@mattt21 7 күн бұрын
Yes. The Bible you know says this very thing. That no one is without excuse for not believing in God, because creation itself makes obvious He exists.
@raiderdefendant2225
@raiderdefendant2225 7 күн бұрын
@ yes, indeed, and he is a loving God that doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed. I’m trying to change my ways and choose his ways.
@spacegerrit9499
@spacegerrit9499 7 күн бұрын
Yes, and it's called nature. We have looked at life and seen how it is clearly based on an evolution of the species. There is so many stuff in our bodies, and in the bodies of animals, that are pointing to the fact that we once had tails etc. Our entire spine is one of an organism that walked on all fours, which is why you get backpains when you get older: it's literally not made for creatures who walk upright. Now who's to say that god didnt create life trough evolution? We as a species tend to put our own face on thing we don't easily comprehend. Nature somehow isn't good enough - it needs to have the face of a man with a beard sitting on a cloud in the sky.
@majidhussain3896
@majidhussain3896 7 күн бұрын
Islam is the truth. Read the Qur'an
@petervermeer.4904
@petervermeer.4904 7 күн бұрын
@@raiderdefendant2225 .. He is a loving God. Who let's thousands of little children die every year from hunger and from diseases. Some English guy explained why he doesn't believe in your God. There is a fly in Africa that lays it's eggs in the eyes of animals, and sometimes young children. So the eggs grow and the victim turns blind. Why did God created those flies? Why did he create mosquitos, that give people malaria? Millions have died from that. Is or was he stupid at the time? Or did he do it intentional?
@meffyjones7069
@meffyjones7069 2 күн бұрын
It's not evolution. It's adaptation
@yyyhhh8481
@yyyhhh8481 12 күн бұрын
and we aren't really evolving ourselfs, we are in contact with "beings" which is giving us technology
@mattt21
@mattt21 7 күн бұрын
Yup.
@pollo3m165
@pollo3m165 6 күн бұрын
Did the episode just come out or I’m tripping balls because I swear I’ve watched this before. Major Deja vu
@pollo3m165
@pollo3m165 6 күн бұрын
Btw I don’t drink or do no drugs. I clearly remember the part where he said he was in a restaurant n talking about souls
@regeneratus-l2w
@regeneratus-l2w 9 күн бұрын
Adaptation can happen within kinds (i.e. Darwin’s Finches) but adaptation does not happen across different kinds. Adaptation creates different breeds of dogs, but they are still all dogs.
@user-eg6nq7qt8c
@user-eg6nq7qt8c 9 күн бұрын
I've never found that to be a convincing or necessary argument. God exists outside time, a 14 billion year processes is just a blink of an eye to a being like that. Whatever we humans discover about the development of life or the origin of the universe is to get a glimpse of God's work.
@KrikZ32
@KrikZ32 9 күн бұрын
Dogs, which used to be wolves, which are a different species, which directly conflicts with your weird made up belief.
@Johnsmith-j5u
@Johnsmith-j5u 9 күн бұрын
​@@user-eg6nq7qt8c a day doesn't exist outside of time. so even if 7 days is a blink of an eye to god it's still 7 days and not 14 Billion. Photons exist "outside of time" but photons don't have time or length they are essentially where they are going as soon as they are created(in their reference frame) to us though it can take billions of years for light to get here but to the photon when we see it. it took no time at all "In the context of a day, the "reference frame" typically refers to the Earth itself, meaning that all time measurements within a day are considered relative to the Earth's rotation, with the position of the sun serving as a key indicator for time progression throughout the day; essentially, the Earth's surface acts as a fixed point to measure the passage of time within a 24-hour cycle."
@Dirtmcgirt22
@Dirtmcgirt22 9 күн бұрын
⁠@@KrikZ32 they are same, a simple google search before you commented would’ve saved you looking like a 🤡
@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366
@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 9 күн бұрын
@@KrikZ32 he is repeating Ray Comfort's bullshit.
@ryan8842
@ryan8842 7 күн бұрын
Love Mel's faith 🙏
@peace_love_unity
@peace_love_unity 8 күн бұрын
The question is, does evolution disprove an intelligent creator? A computer program can also learn, create and evolve into a new form, but it was still created and didn`t evolve naturally, it behaves just the way it was programmed. Same goes for DNA, it`s a code, that re-combines the same program over and over in various different forms based on the conditions and the habitat. That does NOT prove it is a process that wasn`t designed.
@DC07007
@DC07007 7 күн бұрын
It doesn't disprove an intelligent creator but it does disprove that humans were created 8000 years ago
@peace_love_unity
@peace_love_unity 7 күн бұрын
@@DC07007 Yes that is quite obvious that it`s bs :D
@user-d8r9v
@user-d8r9v 6 күн бұрын
Evolution has never been proven. Even science, Biogenetics, has determined evolution is impossible. Care to debate?
@austinwillcut4919
@austinwillcut4919 6 күн бұрын
@@user-d8r9v Evolution is probably the greatest deception the devil has ever fooled humanity with.
@DC07007
@DC07007 6 күн бұрын
@user-d8r9v I think evolution is the closest thing to the truth that we have. I think it is much more accurate than any religious story. We can see clear evidence of the evolutionary process at work in the universe, on our planet, and in ourselves. What's the alternative theory? Every species just popped into existence?
@AtariDad
@AtariDad 4 күн бұрын
I don't go for the whole soul thing. Who you are as a person is entirely dependent on your brain chemistry. There are people who suffer brain injuries and maintain all of their faculties but are entirely different people afterward. When those people die, which version of them goes to the afterlife, the one before or after the brain injury?
@steveb6718
@steveb6718 8 күн бұрын
there is a massive difference between macroevolution (change of kind which has never been observed), and microevolution, where the same species changed to fit its changing environment better, (which has been observed)
@businesswalks8301
@businesswalks8301 8 күн бұрын
that's the beauty of it. you go back far enough and no one can disprove it.
@thebobuxman4
@thebobuxman4 8 күн бұрын
@steveb6718 Where do you draw the line between macro and micro-evolution? Does micro-evolution over an extended period of time not produce large results in the long run? Humans have only attempted to observe evolution in living species for the last couple centuries, which makes it difficult to observe large changes in speciation, which can take thousands to millions of years.
@nadaproblem3023
@nadaproblem3023 8 күн бұрын
Adaptation IS evolution
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 8 күн бұрын
What is a kind? You literally have no idea what you're talking about
@businesswalks8301
@businesswalks8301 8 күн бұрын
@ so slapping you is evolved by you blocking? then evolution means nothing and we don't come from apes, we come from defense. NOT apes or anything ape like.
@joaocalhandro
@joaocalhandro 4 күн бұрын
I never ask anyone about evolution without asking for their definition of it first.
@CadillacJak
@CadillacJak 8 күн бұрын
Mel Gibson is an American icon a true legend
@GW2Vids1
@GW2Vids1 8 күн бұрын
Except that he is Australian
@paddylavery5387
@paddylavery5387 8 күн бұрын
@@GW2Vids1 He was born in America moved to Australia when he was young
@CadillacJak
@CadillacJak 8 күн бұрын
@GW2Vids1 hes American he was born in New York his parents moved to Australia when he was 12 he's not Australian he's American
@JFDoria79
@JFDoria79 8 күн бұрын
His views on evolution are stupid, but cheers to him on believing whatever he wants. Also, there are lots of animals close to as smart as us. Whales, Dolphins, Seals, Apes. In regard to Whales they use sonar to communicate over miles with each other. That's a pretty advanced attribute in my opinion. But if you want to believe in a sky fairy go for it. Also, humans are animals. Good job for Joe calling him out a bit. Mel Gibson doesn't understand the issue with ice melting. It's not sea ice that's the big issue but ice that are part of glaciers on land. Once they melt they are not on land anymore and add to sea water.
@rodneylindenberg6441
@rodneylindenberg6441 8 күн бұрын
Australian icon
@anthonyoneill3542
@anthonyoneill3542 3 күн бұрын
He's like Heath Ledger's Joker 10 minutes before he became Heath Ledger's Joker
@rkrushenick
@rkrushenick 8 күн бұрын
God and evolution don’t have to be exclusively against eachother. God could have created the ability to slowly adapt over time. Science and god can exist hand and hand
@Z719-p1z
@Z719-p1z 7 күн бұрын
👏👏👏 Perfectly said. A whole new world of possibilities and potential experiences open up to us when we stop this the whole "either/or" way of thinking.
@rkrushenick
@rkrushenick 7 күн бұрын
@ I think it could be true to consider science as the art of understanding God and their design. I don’t think the two need to be at odds. That’s a human fabrication.
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 7 күн бұрын
@@rkrushenick evolution and genesis cant coexist which is the point of contention for fundamentalists
@Caolan-b6r
@Caolan-b6r 4 күн бұрын
No they can't as Adam and eve were said to be the first humans but that would make them neanderthals
@arvindpalep6372
@arvindpalep6372 5 күн бұрын
Brilliant actor. Brilliant director. And that’s as far as that goes.
@danjonmills
@danjonmills 4 күн бұрын
Brilliant Christian?
@markeedeep
@markeedeep 7 күн бұрын
The only evolution I ever believed in is Ric Flair, HHH, Batista and Randy Orton! 🔥💪
@jademonolith
@jademonolith 7 күн бұрын
Evolution is a mystery...
@markeedeep
@markeedeep 7 күн бұрын
@@jademonolith Full of change that *no one* sees!
@Ahmed-yk4be
@Ahmed-yk4be 6 күн бұрын
😅
@MarquitoRH
@MarquitoRH 6 күн бұрын
Joe R actually on fire here; best clip I have ever seen of him. Rather than agreeing with total BS from a guest he is actually challenging in a very interesting and respectful way. Maybe he’s stopped smoking dope. BTW: Some alcohol is categorised as spirits, yes, but this has nothing to do with spirituality! 😅 Poor Mel has to rely on thing like I don’t feel like I evolved and carbon dating is not valid 😮
@Dylanson3
@Dylanson3 6 күн бұрын
@@MarquitoRH actually alcohol was commonly used as spiritual practice even in Jesus’ time. Same as today lol and evolution is a lie with no evidence
@Wade-22
@Wade-22 12 күн бұрын
Talk to someone who can counter carbon dating analysis. Not a Movie star.
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 8 күн бұрын
Why? Mel Gibson was being interviewed, and Rogan wanted his views on a range of subjects, including carbon dating & evolution. The whole podcast wasn't about the origin of life and the age of the universe. It was about Mel Gibson.
@ivamatosich
@ivamatosich 4 күн бұрын
Just because you don't have degree on something dosen't mean you don't have basic knowledge on topic and that you can't form your own opinion. Besides, carbon dating is not accurate. Atmospheric carbon varies with the climate. And besides God is God, He could easily speed up process of creation same way we speed up videos...
@Bzzzz372
@Bzzzz372 7 күн бұрын
Good answers all over
@Don_Amans
@Don_Amans 7 күн бұрын
Mel is an actor so we should all listen to him!
@NEALESHA86
@NEALESHA86 7 күн бұрын
Only when they political speech for democrates :)
@marcotaylor-poverello927
@marcotaylor-poverello927 7 күн бұрын
If your car technician said you needed a new engine but you didn't, you'd just believe him because he's known as the "expert". Just because they're an expert in something doesn't mean they're right all the time or that they're honest. Hence why every single topic of discussion has more than 1 opinion. There isn't a topic on earth that has 100% of people in agreement with each other.
@trevorvarathaiah
@trevorvarathaiah 7 күн бұрын
Even Joe listens. It's surprising to see that Joe Rogan, who has mocked Christianity listens to Mel without any sarcasm or arrogance. Why, because Mel Gibson knows his stuff, is a director and actor. A successful one at that too.
@user-d8r9v
@user-d8r9v 6 күн бұрын
And you are what Don?
@Don_Amans
@Don_Amans 6 күн бұрын
@ Do you get sarcasm?
@ProdSangreNueva
@ProdSangreNueva 2 күн бұрын
Evolution and adaptation are 2 different things. Just teach that in class.
@lunatekcc8377
@lunatekcc8377 9 күн бұрын
the universe had to be created, only explanation for the singularity of the big bang appearing
@robocop4209
@robocop4209 9 күн бұрын
Lol
@lunatekcc8377
@lunatekcc8377 9 күн бұрын
@@robocop4209 yeah good counter argument lmao
@timbeech2056
@timbeech2056 9 күн бұрын
When you don't know how something happened you don't make up a God to fill in the blank answer. Instead you say "we don't know what caused the singularity yet" and continue investigating.
@lunatekcc8377
@lunatekcc8377 9 күн бұрын
@@timbeech2056 I know it was god or a creator, its the only possible explanation
@JohnJohn-cu7nk
@JohnJohn-cu7nk 8 күн бұрын
Their was no big bang
@maxwellventura
@maxwellventura 8 күн бұрын
Need to have Gregg Braden on his podcast to talk about evolution
@ryonthekeys
@ryonthekeys 12 күн бұрын
simple as this. Evolution as a process✅, Evolution as an origin❌
@nr1NPC
@nr1NPC 12 күн бұрын
Why not as an origin?
@tobin8585
@tobin8585 10 күн бұрын
Allah is our origin. Bow to Allah .
@hermaeusmora424
@hermaeusmora424 9 күн бұрын
​@@nr1NPCEvolution occurs in living life forms. You can only have adaptation in life after there is life. If you are curious about the origin of life from non life look up abiogenesis.
@nathanclearyaulsberry8424
@nathanclearyaulsberry8424 9 күн бұрын
​@@tobin8585 Allah isn't real
@KrikZ32
@KrikZ32 9 күн бұрын
Nobody presents evolution as an explanation for the initial origin of life.
@danFielder-j6i
@danFielder-j6i 5 күн бұрын
Not sure on the ice bit. The ice above the water level would raise it not under the water like ice in a glass?
@thedavid3737
@thedavid3737 8 күн бұрын
Mel Gibson is a national treasure
@jsj31313jj
@jsj31313jj 7 күн бұрын
Dr. Newton Tahmisian, a physiologist for the Atomic Energy Commission, has stated this, and I quote, "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact"
@MG-ei7pt
@MG-ei7pt 10 күн бұрын
Carbon dating is NOT rock solid, pun intended. Rock formations formed after Mt St Helens are dated to be 350,000 years old when in reality they are dozens.
@IsaiahOD
@IsaiahOD 10 күн бұрын
But how old are the rocks themselves?
@worldobserver3515
@worldobserver3515 9 күн бұрын
How is carbon dating related to rocks? Carbon dating is not applicable to rocks.
@neo-didact9285
@neo-didact9285 9 күн бұрын
Very true. This aligns with accounts of dinosaurs in the Bible. They were alive before the Flood.
@jsj31313jj
@jsj31313jj 7 күн бұрын
Dr. Cecil Wakeley, leading British surgeon and the late president of the Royal College of Surgeons, said this, "When I was a medical student, I was taught the theory of evolution, but I never believed it".
@brainworm666
@brainworm666 6 күн бұрын
So what?
@jsj31313jj
@jsj31313jj 6 күн бұрын
@brainworm666 “Reality can be beaten with enough imagination.” - Mark Twain
@brainworm666
@brainworm666 6 күн бұрын
@ Cool story.
@Dylanson3
@Dylanson3 6 күн бұрын
Bible 1. Earth before sun 2. Ocean before land 3. Light before sun 4. Land plants first 5. Fruit trees before fish 6. Fish before insects 7. Plants before sun 8. Marine mammals first 9. Birds before reptiles 10. Atmosphere between two layers of water 11. Man brought death into the world 12. God created man Evolution/naturalism 1. Sun before earth 2. Land before oceans 3. Sun before light 4. Marine life first 5. Fish before fruit trees 6. Insects before fish 7. Sun before plants 8. Land mammals first 9. Reptiles before birds 10. Atmosphere above water 11. Death brought man into the world 12. Man created God
@CSUnger
@CSUnger 7 күн бұрын
"It doesn't really matter" Correct. Regardless of the process that brought us to the point we are today, the questions of life (Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny) still need to be answered, and the mechanisms don't really address them so why focus on them when they are largely speculative at best.
@jonny-dp2qr
@jonny-dp2qr 7 күн бұрын
The problem rn is that a lot of people think we NEED to prove these things. Why? What good does that even bring us? It’s just an egoic pursuit, the ego trying to figure out where itself came from
@jonny-dp2qr
@jonny-dp2qr 7 күн бұрын
I misread your comment, I totally agree with u
@CSUnger
@CSUnger 7 күн бұрын
Not a problem.
@Gaiaslover
@Gaiaslover 7 күн бұрын
Beautiful framing of Truth my friend
@TomHawks-k8l
@TomHawks-k8l 6 күн бұрын
Heresy. Convert to Orthodoxy
@MichaelRobinson-wu9ob
@MichaelRobinson-wu9ob 8 күн бұрын
Now have Aaron Ra as a follow up guest 😂
@damaristighe3227
@damaristighe3227 12 күн бұрын
There is an interesting mathematical critique of natural selection that is based on how long - how many generations - it takes a particular mutation to be "fixed" in a population. They determined that there was not enough time or generations to account for the number of aggregated genetic differences between man and apes. I don't know if it's valid, but it has some support from a few mathematicians and biologists. Apparently, NS can't yet explain why no remains of any intermediate life forms between species have been discovered. I'm relaying this, I haven't yet formed an opinion on the matter.
@Powerhaus88
@Powerhaus88 12 күн бұрын
And these "they" being whom? Creationists? :))))))
@damaristighe3227
@damaristighe3227 12 күн бұрын
@@Powerhaus88 From the people I have read, one is, and one (a professional mathematician.) isn't. Is it worth considering this new critique on its own merits? If it helps, this doesn't entail believing it is the hand of God.
@Johnsmith-j5u
@Johnsmith-j5u 9 күн бұрын
they have found "intermediate life forms" what was the name of this mathematician
@damaristighe3227
@damaristighe3227 9 күн бұрын
@@Johnsmith-j5u There are a couple - again, I'm relaying what I read, not confidently claiming this is correct - Frank J. Tipler, Stanislaw Ulam and Marcel-Paul " Schützenberger. There have been some Chinese evolutionary scientists who have followed this heterodox angle focusing on a "molecular theory of evolution". Their publications are not well-regarded.
@damaristighe3227
@damaristighe3227 9 күн бұрын
@@Johnsmith-j5u You said intermediate species have been found? Do you have a quick rundown on this? I'm not a scientist, I'm just interested in paleo-genetics, and I found these ideas intriguing. I don't have a dog in the fight between Christians and hard evolution scientists. My son has degrees in biology and maths, and he's wedded to evolution. Thinks I'm a nut for giving any alternatives or modifications a hearing. :)
@user-ue3ie7gn6c
@user-ue3ie7gn6c 6 күн бұрын
Evolution doesn't debunk a creator. Both can be.
@HamishandIsmael
@HamishandIsmael 7 күн бұрын
Evoulution is the answer of how God created life.
@T.Truthtella-n3i
@T.Truthtella-n3i 7 күн бұрын
No.
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 6 күн бұрын
Not necessarily, humans are seperate from every other creature on Earth Maybe we really are Annunaki genetic workforce
@HamishandIsmael
@HamishandIsmael 6 күн бұрын
@jmz2144 Abart from the Godly spirit inside the humans, everything else been evolutionary created by God. Even our spirituality took it's kind of evolution through out the history.
@LifeAsALayman
@LifeAsALayman 5 күн бұрын
This is like saying that lightning occurs naturally, but it's still commanded by Zeus. Zeus' involvement here is unnecessary, much like how your God isn't a necessary part of evolution.
@HamishandIsmael
@HamishandIsmael 4 күн бұрын
@LifeAsALayman Any explanation lacking intelligence would defy the principles of statistical mathematics, reaching the point of impossibility.
@SWizz871
@SWizz871 3 күн бұрын
This dude bonkers
@christopherboydandmartinsc9322
@christopherboydandmartinsc9322 8 күн бұрын
Evolution explains the diversity of life all the way back to the simplest single-celled organisms, but it doesn’t even attempt to explain the origin of life. That’s a different question.
@JohnJohn-cu7nk
@JohnJohn-cu7nk 8 күн бұрын
Do you know that before oxygen on earth their was life.
@zwhisen
@zwhisen 5 күн бұрын
Mel realizes Joe's dense af about evolution and decided not to engage. Bloody hilarious
@monty0289
@monty0289 8 күн бұрын
I honestly cannot fathom how seemingly intelligent people can still believe that we were "created". Despite science all but proving we, along with every other living thing evolved, people still hang on to a belief in a "higher power" because ultimately they need an explanation of our existence and are afraid of death. It's quite sad
@colleenshea2293
@colleenshea2293 7 күн бұрын
Science is unable to explain everything and or even that much.
@monty0289
@monty0289 7 күн бұрын
@colleenshea2293 that is true, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than some bearded man in the sky creating everything. If he/it was so benevolent, then why all the violence/war/famine in the world? Oh sorry, free will is that right?
@mattt21
@mattt21 7 күн бұрын
@@monty0289 Why blaspheme God? Read the Bible if things were just fine there’d be no need for redemption.
@monty0289
@monty0289 7 күн бұрын
@mattt21 I can't "blaspheme" anything if I'm not dumb enough to believe in it. So god let's people commit horrific atrocities to completely innocent people, just so they can redeem themselves? You sound completely nuts!!!
@Gaiaslover
@Gaiaslover 7 күн бұрын
Monty, nothing is sad about that but you. It's enough to draw breath to witness creation and the source of it but instead you completely dismiss all that is for a belief called science. By the way, Science and God are One.
@stevenjamison5896
@stevenjamison5896 7 күн бұрын
Evolution doesn't require the approval of Mel Gibson, nor does it care about his feelings.
@ghamzawyngaard8923
@ghamzawyngaard8923 2 күн бұрын
"The chaos is the world is 100% our own making"
@Maicon-b1b
@Maicon-b1b 8 күн бұрын
Carbon dating is definitely not solid evidence Its been known to get accurate dates wrong It also doesn't take into account if water affected the material being tested
@youyou3671
@youyou3671 8 күн бұрын
@@Maicon-b1b examples and sources please
@Maicon-b1b
@Maicon-b1b 8 күн бұрын
@youyou3671 I forgot all of the sources I've watched a lot of interviews on different things like diamonds and people that speak about carbon dating and stuff like that What I'm saying is that I went from believing in carbon dating to beginning to doubt carbon dating
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 8 күн бұрын
Carbon dating might not be completely accurate... but it at least can probably prove the earth is more than 5000 years old.
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 8 күн бұрын
It depends on the material. Carbon dating gives you a rough estimate.
@Maicon-b1b
@Maicon-b1b 8 күн бұрын
@@LambertBowden56 that is something that I think is true The carbon dating even if it's adjusted still stretches beyond 5 k years
@anthonytrocchi7183
@anthonytrocchi7183 17 сағат бұрын
I love how Joe picks and chooses who he wants to call bullshit on like why he lets Mel ramble on nonsense and others he immediately shuts down is so interesting
@aussiebenjjii
@aussiebenjjii 3 күн бұрын
It's narcassitc of human's to think we are the only one with souls or intelligence I personally believe all life has soul and intelligence
@mel0214
@mel0214 2 күн бұрын
Animals don't have souls because animals don't question their existence or their morality; humans are the only ones capable of that.
@alejandrojimenezmartinez9305
@alejandrojimenezmartinez9305 4 күн бұрын
Basically he denies all the scientific explanations with solid proof but has no argument to back It up because he didn't even spend one second actually reading something about this explanations. But the religious explanation with 0 proof based on magic and things written by people centuries ago that have modified in time seems much more logical to him.
@owlNolan
@owlNolan 2 күн бұрын
You're not really smart, aren't you
@shawnaking111
@shawnaking111 3 күн бұрын
Anyone hear that “Eeevilution” ❤😂
@Shenmue06
@Shenmue06 8 күн бұрын
I use to be like joe. When I first became an atheist I would point out evidence and facts to make believers feel small. I realize now that I was being immature so I don't do that stuff anymore. The typical religious person in the United States isn't hurting anyone so talking them out of it doesn't solve anything. If anything it's going to make their life's worse because people enjoy going to church with their communities. As an atheist im depressed all the time because I realize that life is meaningless so why pass this knowledge onto believers. Too much reality does make life unbearable for the average person but joe isn't living in reality regardless of being an atheist because he's rich and famous.
@lohi172
@lohi172 8 күн бұрын
I appreciate your honesty and reasonableness. If you’re gonna rock someone’s world and likely make their life and maybe their loved ones’ lives worse, it better be because you’re sincerely convinced it must be done vs doing it to feel superior for a brief moment. As far as feeling depressed, hang in there. Sounds like your heart is in the right place to me. Edit: Check out Existentialism if you haven’t already. It emphasizes that yes, life is absurd and has no inherent meaning, yet why not try creating purpose and meaning in your own life in a way that makes sense to you. I’m not an expert on it but it’s helped me a lot recently with my own depression.
@terdfergusonIII
@terdfergusonIII 8 күн бұрын
I felt the same way when I was an atheist. Thank God I snapped out of it.
@totalsceptic
@totalsceptic 8 күн бұрын
Meaninglessness doesn't need to be depressing, mate. i find a lot of comfort in the fact that it simply does not matter. make friends, have fun, laugh, sleep, watch good movies, read interesting books or have conversations like this. no pressure, just passing time! 👍
@chug5136
@chug5136 7 күн бұрын
@@Shenmue06 fair enough lots of rude atheist but just cause somethings makes you feel a certain way or makes ur life better doesn’t mean mean it’s the truth, and it should. Take you graceful there’s a whole universe going on and we are lucky enough to be alive
@gregsimmons694
@gregsimmons694 7 күн бұрын
More importantly, Jesus saves sinners. God bless you. Better to trust in Jesus and accept Jesus as your savior and go to heaven with a few questions, than go to hell thinking you knew all the answers
@Marcus-vs4gs
@Marcus-vs4gs 7 күн бұрын
Good Stuff
@dennisalexanderson6975
@dennisalexanderson6975 9 күн бұрын
He's drinking water like crazy. Mel seems like a nice guy
@mattt21
@mattt21 7 күн бұрын
It’s a bit intense being put on the spot like that. You can tell he is inwardly very opinionated but doesn’t want a full argument about it. I’m the same. Mostly these convos go nowhere it’s just better to say you don’t believe evolution and move on.
@justmadeit2
@justmadeit2 6 күн бұрын
The cat family has lots of varieties but it doesn’t turn in to a giraffe but within its species it does evolve. I’m not even religious but I believe there must be some intelligence in the universe, it can’t all be an accident, it’s far too complex for the human mind to comprehend, we are limited, even the most brilliant human mind is limited
@bernicia-sc2iw
@bernicia-sc2iw 8 күн бұрын
Never ask a creationist about evolution. Not uness you want to lose a few million brain cells listening to their answers.
@ryotron8936
@ryotron8936 7 күн бұрын
I've been in a few comment sections that debate this and they believe that a detail IN creation disbelieves creation itself. That's what I don't understand.
@terike9738
@terike9738 7 күн бұрын
Okay you geniuses, what created the primordial broth involved in the Big Bang?
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 7 күн бұрын
@@terike9738 i have no idea. But im confident evolution is real. Arguing it is in no way equates to saying i know every answer to everything
@Gaiaslover
@Gaiaslover 7 күн бұрын
Mel simply stated his beliefs. You are choosing to ridicule and diminish others just for the sake of your belief. Mel's attitude is more sensible than yours and more conducive to our well being. And yes, I do see that he seems limited as well, but he attacks no one while you attack him and anyone you think is related to his ideas.
@Alex-zm8ru
@Alex-zm8ru 7 күн бұрын
@@Gaiasloveryes, silly ideas and beliefs should be ridiculed and pointed out, that’s how we learn.
@ZafAyub-pu9od
@ZafAyub-pu9od 7 күн бұрын
Props to Joe for inviting an eclectic group Of guests … rational intellects like Brian Cox to hucksters like Trump and everything in between. He’s giving different opinions voice …fair play that’s what we need more out ..
@mikef6063
@mikef6063 8 күн бұрын
There is no “lucy skeleton”
@norberto6005
@norberto6005 8 күн бұрын
what do u mean?
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 7 күн бұрын
@@mikef6063 there is a lucy fossil
@Dylanson3
@Dylanson3 6 күн бұрын
@@mikef6063 Lucy was a few bones that turned out to be a monkey. It’s at the ark encounter. Missing links don’t exists. There are features that make a human and they’re not the same as monkeys. Neanderthals we’re larger people. Same bone structure. Evolution has twisted peoples minds
@mikef6063
@mikef6063 6 күн бұрын
@@Michael-io6db You sure about that? There's a chipped tooth or a tiny bone fragment. Then they found pieces of a skeleton a long ways away and surmise that maybe it's part of the same creature, yet even that skeleton was incomplete. We aren't finding transitional ape man fossils out there people, do some research. The lucy "evidence" is laughable at best
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 9 күн бұрын
My question for carbon dating is how do you date when a rock was cut and shaped to build a building?
@craigrussell3062
@craigrussell3062 8 күн бұрын
Carbon dating is used to date organic materials, not rocks.
@goncalocaldeira6536
@goncalocaldeira6536 8 күн бұрын
You can’t use carbon dating to date rocks. It’s for organic materials like human remains, animals, plants, etc. There are other methods, but carbon dating isn’t one of them.
@coolslimm5105
@coolslimm5105 8 күн бұрын
I think he wanted y’all to explain the how
@Michael-io6db
@Michael-io6db 8 күн бұрын
Key word is carbon. Carbon dating is for organic materials not rocks.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 8 күн бұрын
@@craigrussell3062 so why do I keep hearing people talk about Salami Tepi (or whatever it's called) being "carbon dated"?
@danlozza
@danlozza 7 күн бұрын
The theory of evolution is the study of the creative mind of God anything with form has a function. Anything with function has a purpose. Anything with a purpose must have been construed. Hardware without software is useless. The notion that our 2 to 3 lb brain can figure out the form and function of the entire universe is there a new place to live is ignorance at its finest. The best we can hope for is to solidify our observations within the confines of our limited limits science is a religion too
@QualeQualeson
@QualeQualeson 6 күн бұрын
You'll have a hard time convincing me he's sober here.
@cnw3903
@cnw3903 5 күн бұрын
Haha for real though!! Ice example was so dumb
@QualeQualeson
@QualeQualeson 5 күн бұрын
@@cnw3903 It's not his convictions, but his mannerisms and speech.
@hater2764
@hater2764 5 күн бұрын
@@cnw3903 Gibson is dumb
@obscureentertainment8303
@obscureentertainment8303 6 күн бұрын
You can have faith, but facts are facts. To deny them, or to say "i don't know" is just lunacy.
@chrisbutler8856
@chrisbutler8856 8 күн бұрын
Mel is such a perfect example of someone who has preconceived notions based on nothing and refutes science by claiming its lies. Scary stuff. Nothing you could say to him would change his mind.
@stevegeoff8516
@stevegeoff8516 8 күн бұрын
Same as all religious nuts... and flat earthers :)
@coolslimm5105
@coolslimm5105 8 күн бұрын
What reason does he have to have a stubborn faith in science
@Man_of_Tomorrow
@Man_of_Tomorrow 8 күн бұрын
@@coolslimm5105 What reason does he have to have a stubborn faith in religion? Science isn't about faith anyway, that's just what those con-artist preachers tell babybrains like yourself. There's no faith in science, just proven vs unproven, likely vs. unlikely. Billions of years of the universe evolving to end up where we are, theories based on observable evidence, or God waved a magic wand and there were people, based on no evidence at all? I can guess which you would choose.
@chrisbutler8856
@chrisbutler8856 8 күн бұрын
@@coolslimm5105 What?
@Blackwater06
@Blackwater06 8 күн бұрын
Modern day "science" has convinced people there are more than two genders. It's a lot more dangerous than you think it is, and it's hardly the objective truth. You seem to be every bit as rigid as you think Mel is.
@jaytea42
@jaytea42 5 күн бұрын
Amen Mel ✝️✝️✝️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🌎🌎🌎✨✨✨
@brandenbyers4522
@brandenbyers4522 3 күн бұрын
Darwin didn’t even believe In his own theory when he was passing away. Look it up!
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