Joe Rogan - Cat Zingano's Struggle with Anti-depressants

Cat Zingano on her problems with anti-depressants.

[@JustASmallTownGirl85]

I'm also a single mom and my husband also passed away. Rooting for her now as a BA fighter, and just as a person. Cat, you will never read this..but I have the same issues from PTSD and many of the things you describe going through are exactly me. I have tried every way you can imagine, including being hypnotized(Didn't work🤣), just to force myself better. I'm going to look into this therapy now that you have used it, this could really help someone listening. Thank you for bravely sharing your truth, and showing me that we are never truly alone in our struggles. It could always be worse, and it won't get better with inaction. Mental illness can create a daily struggle to find a sense of peace..inside your own thoughts. Working out, running, and getting myself physically exhausted has helped channel some of the symptoms. I'm tired of meds and endless trial and error..so here goes nothing! Anyone going through mental health issues, you are not alone, seek help, you got this.❤

[@alexsung4159]

TheGummybearMassacre direct message or comment her on IG for it!! ❤️

[@faytlyte25]

Source?

[@JustASmallTownGirl85]

Alex Sung thank you Alex for the info.! I've never sent a dm to a person before, it makes me feel like I'm bugging her lol I'm old and shy haha

[@faytlyte25]

The old and/or shy are DM's main demographic

[@JustASmallTownGirl85]

Q TIP thank you for your comment. I don't see the relevance of her personal life in regards to the real life mental health issues I'm saying that WE share. I struggle to fight my way through on a daily basis and she described that as a stranger. I didn't watch a video about her personal life. Agree to disagree.

[@Lightner445555555555]

What's baffling me is. Why in the world would anyone ever wanna hate Cat Zingano?

[@papafrank7646]

For real.. I love everything about her

[@guesswhat-chickenbutt]

Nothing better to do

[@primate4]

Because some losers like to hate because they hate themselves!

[@larrym931]

She’s a beautiful wonderful woman

[@mattjean2652]

She's adorable. If you saw her at the store you wouldn't know she is an assassin. This is the greatest fighter to never win the championship....YET!

[@ameremortal]

If you need to stop anti-depressants, open the pills up and remove one little ball per day. It takes months, but it works.

[@Mashtanga]

cat is a really good human being

[@cityman1111]

The problem is called Brain Zaps. I've had them since 1999 and cannot wean myself from the anti depressant. I originally called them Sparking. The electrical impulses are horrid, and what's worse is they are audible to me.

[@bweb6]

Cat is so right when she said they make you feel 'flat'. When i was taking Paxil, i barely went to the gym, i felt this kind of numb, apathy towards everything, and my appetite went through the roof.

[@fasted7604]

I'm on zolft. What she describes is spot on. You can't just stop taking them either or you'll go crazy.

[@DapperCracker512]

Antidepressants you just have to taper very slowly. Most doctors have no clue how slow to go is the problem.

[@wakjob961]

Eric Garner Damn straight. Downregulation is key.

[@rob_3417]

Ya the with drawels are absolutely terrifying. Worse than heroin

[@omeyehead7436]

HurriKane Dave. Thats how it affected me. No emotional state at all. Too disturbing for me. Ill deal with ups and downs. Feel something damn!

[@CodyS777-oc8vs]

A Ibrahim Maybe You shouldn’t Comment on something you know NOTHING about. Most Depression problems are from chemical imbalances and someone telling you to “Just get over it” Is not gonna fix that, only Medication will.

[@marciocruz6973]

Cat, you are a darling. The way you talk and the references you made about your fights and the person's you have fought, namely the Amanda, shows the sincerity in a very brave way of facing things. Wish you the best. Congratulations brave woman.

[@squamish4244]

Antidepressants are not inherently bad. They have saved a lot of lives in very bad situations. The problem is, we just don't know enough about the science behind them yet and are prescribing them in a very scattershot fashion, like 1970s chemo for the mind.

[@Test7017]

Theye have caused many suicides and testing shows its toxic

[@SteveYoi812]

I enjoyed the interview with Cat Zingano. She is down to earth, intelligent and chill. Nice to hear her speak her truth, very likeable lady.

[@pmd828]

It sucks what she's going through. Don't wish that stress on any one. Cat you rock

[@Frank-fv9zc]

My heart is with you cat! A true warrior ❤️❤️

[@ameremortal]

Cat is the most interesting fighter there is. What a crazy life she lives.

[@trainsfanatic5286]

Joke?

[@killtherapy4346]

What if i told you my depression is depressing me, the drugs they give me take it away, but also my ability to have happiness

[@rcchristian2]

Go out quickly and start training brazilian jiu jitsu. It's anti depressents without the bad side effects.

[@joshgittos2093]

@@rcchristian2 no it’s not.

[@rcchristian2]

@@joshgittos2093 Well it is for me. Maybe there's something wrong with you :)

[@2alsen]

@@rcchristian2 that’s why he takes them

[@inglouriousalpha8133]

respect for this lady

[@Bbknuckles]

Wait wtf that’s Cat!? She looks way different, hotter.

[@ilovechelseafc8080]

Broccoli Rob maybe the make up?

[@twistsnkicks]

She's off the roids.

[@decimated550]

I Love Chelsea Fc she has a great color to her, looks Natty not make up

[@Bbknuckles]

decimated550 Na she’s got makeup on for sure it’s obvious but that’s not what I’m talking about. She looks more like a female, softer. Cat looks good in her normal state.

[@BNG1Fdarest]

some women look better with more weight and less make up... she's like a pretty girl next door vibe dressed up like that..which makes her look better IMHO

[@rivertrash9862]

I love Cat, but i seriously wish she wouldn't fight again. Some of the new therapies she's talked about can help with cte and other head trauma related problems, but no, we can not reverse or repair all the damage. Also it's the snowball effect, damage makes you more susceptible to more damage and it just gets worse and worse.

[@musicsaves97]

I see her situation in the same light. It's a shame that she has to continue to fight just to support herself

[@Test7017]

Her first mistake was seeing a doctor. Megadosing with Vitamins heal faster

[@mauriciochavez914]

It's hard to get off that shit . I was on them for 3 months and it's horrible . And even more horrible trying to get off that shit.I started takin magnesium taurate and slowly slowly started to feel better.

[@TEEANVEE]

Did you experience sexual dysfunction after use?

[@008tele]

They really help. Unpopular opinion doesn't mean they aren't effective. They help me sleep. I'm wild and that gets me tamed what 6 ejaculations can't do on a daily basis

[@brettmitchell8014]

She is awesome!

[@robertdiaz9723]

Cat is so beautiful

[@Smc-gm2nx]

What’s the best one to not get weight gain or sexual side effects

[@REDZ28won]

Cat is Awesome. I still think she can be Champ! Her book is Awesome also. You guys should check it out.

[@RanHarasaki]

Blegh. Good ol' side-Effexor. No wonder she felt so bad.

[@marko27513]

I agree, what dipshit Dr is prescribing that junk in 2018. I took it for 10 years and finally got off. I have OCD and Cipralex is much better...

[@sandizz]

marko27513 exactly idiot, You have ocd and took The wrong medication, effexor is for depression and anxiety

[@bwilliamson3887]

I know, it's awful, that's an old SNRI

[@candleankle1805]

FYI: I just started a vitamin regimen of CoQ10, B12, vitamin c, glucosamine, magnesium along with my daily probiotic And I just took a MASSIVE MORNING DUMP.

[@emrysciaran]

I just heard her say the meds took away her anger, desire to kill, and intense anxiety. Or am I tripping?

[@kidstoney3418]

Yup right on

[@alaskayoung3413]

Comment section full of Nuero Scientist and Doctors I see...

[@LeBurkaTron]

She is as tough as they get . "Religion of Sports: Alpha and Omega" watch it on YT.

[@faytlyte25]

No

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

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[@blunterwun]

This was a scramble of a conversation

[@cheps5783]

Warrior woman! God bless her and family. Mad respect!

[@charlesreber3662]

they have cortisol blockers, just saying, there are other options besides anti-whatevers

[@bennyhandsome7530]

Love Cat ❤❤👌

[@NoName-rl3fh]

She's pretty and maybe I'll check out some of her fights. Hearing her expectation with social media though and dealings with high stress/antidepressents makes me think this is exactly why its a male dominated sport though.

[@NoName-rl3fh]

That is unfortunate. She seems quite knowledgeable health-wise and is passionate about what she does. You can tell she puts thought into what she says, which I like. Really pretty too. Social media can be toxic but can also draw admirers. I wonder what she'll do post-fighting.

[@joeschmoe373]

What happened to the ketamine nasal spray. I watched a CNN special with Lisa Ling and she covered psychedelics being used to treat depression and PTSD, and patients swear by them.

[@bwilliamson3887]

They won't, mass prescribe them, because there is no money in it. They will only be for people with severe depression when other treatments don't work.

[@jamesc7019]

Love Cat

[@hang-sangitch]

Take 20 mg of (swanson's or better yet lindens) lithium orotate (4x 5mg tabs) two in the morning and two in the evening EVERY DAY 👍

[@turnip5359]

Doesn't matter what brand it is.

[@infinitemonkey917]

Thats a bummer but fighters change camps all the time. It's not unusual to have former coaches cornering an opponent.

[@user-InfiniteIntelligence]

I love you cat zingano

[@jimsteele7108]

Interesting lady. Gotta see the entire interview.

[@Raised_by_God]

God give peace to whom ever he chooses. Great is the Lord!

[@arsalanjam5375]

She is FUCKING AWESOME. chin up champ! WE LOVE YOU Cat!

[@rob_3417]

Oh shit effexor. Total zombie nation and they're unbelievably hard to get off . She has my sympathies.

[@PowersBenzoCoaching]

Antidepressants suck. Sorry to hear your struggle.

[@bwilliamson3887]

They do work though.

[@PowersBenzoCoaching]

@@bwilliamson3887 For some. And usually for a short period of time. Then it's usually followed by other SSRI's, something to help with sleep, and something to help with anxiety, such as a benzodiazepine.

[@RyanJohnson-sm1cl]

@@bwilliamson3887 mostly placebo response. Then after a certain amount of time that effect fades and the depression creeps back in and sometimes worse.

[@jeffduce55]

That woman went thru hell and back and her story is so inspirational. She so real , i like everything about her . She has one of the best highlight video on youtube . It's called "Alpha" Cat Zingano highlights 2014 @blade367 . Me and my GF watched that highlight like 20 times and it just gets better and better . The song is awesome also . Black Sheep by Gin Wigmore

[@stevietazz4165]

If she didnt go through all this shit she’d have canned rousey and been the champ for a min

[@angryahmurican4634]

Joe "what shit did they put you on" Rogan

[@salvatoregeraci6000]

not mad at her

[@georgecoull1883]

She's a fucking beast and Im in love with her like a teenager 😂

[@leusmaximusx]

court her , so she could have someone to share life with

[@cultuuedpetri]

I was on effect. that shit is a nightmare to get off.

[@chrisobrien6254]

“Am I allowed to say Fuck on this show”?!?! 😂😂 girl have you watched Rogan before?? 😂God bless her

[@DreamBeatsBakery]

Kanye West is on Lexapro

[@longdongchong0188]

He needs a lot fuckin more than lexapro...

[@rankumr1.1]

Cat rocks!!!!

[@billbudd6611]

A lovely lady currently with Bellator.

[@rooster7658]

Sucha rad chick

[@aidensnacklad4178]

That shit removes all flight or fight. You're a real zombie on that stuff

[@ejoshcoron]

Cat TKO'd Nunes. Not many fighters can say that

[@donaldmacleod7808]

I love cat id marry her....

[@bensonvirtucio3926]

Why has the UFC not signed her back up yet?

[@ifrankensteinsmonster]

SSRIs, SNRIs are the worst antidepressants out there! Try Tricyclics

[@miroslavpokorny7902]

She's beautiful. As a person, as a woman. Im in love.

[@burningmisery]

I love the bandwagon, neckbeard MMA fans that say Cat is a loser and she never accomplished anything. Their bandwagon knowledge does not extend past the latest fight, otherwise they'd have known Cat was the first and ONLY fighter to DEMOLISH Amanda Nunes. Take into account that Amanda has that special lesbian strength and power, and you see that Cat is seriously the biggest alpha in that division.

[@rickyrick9328]

The side effects of AD are way worse than what you are going through. Stay away.

[@bwilliamson3887]

No, that's a generalised view. Some aren't bad at all.

[@shawnleong3605]

@@bwilliamson3887 lies. And I am talking about you

[@bwilliamson3887]

Zoloft is a flattener, sedation. Citalopram or Celexa is less so. Some antidepressants boost you up, others calm you down. They are all SSRI, the basic type.

[@lucasmazzoli4426]

Zoloft is not a flatter it gives more energy and makes it harder to sleep

[@Charmer4856]

Sure you can say fuck! Now should we? LOL

[@ploddodd]

She's cool as fuck.

[@michelleespino9814]

EFFEXOR IS THE WORST!! Super Flat no emotion at ALL

[@Jacas1]

So she was taking ssri during training camp lol

[@giacattiva]

She took antidepressants when she wasn't depressed, not surprised she felt flat& out of sorts. Effexor has been very beneficial for me, personally & a lot of people who take it & benefit from it are out living their lives, not ranting about this drug on the internet. What works for some will not work for others.

[@slightlycrippled2]

daamn she would be so cool to fuckin hang out with.

[@rupertmurdoch4750]

I'm so surprised Joe of all people never brought up pot. She is a prime candidate. I feel like someone like the Diaz brothers would have all the same feelings and problems she does without pot in their lives. It would help with the TBI too.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

Pot though it definitely can be a solution for many medical problems, conditions, issues, is very complex, with thousands of different strains, different Cannabinoids and other constituents that cause different chemical or physiological responses in the body (such as Terpines). So Cannabis is like thousands of drugs in one, and finding the right one for you which works for your specific conditions (without unwanted side effects) can be difficult.

[@rupertmurdoch4750]

@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO Maybe 20 years ago, but not anymore. In all states where it is legal to grow, you can order seeds that not only describe each and every condition it is used to treat, but list all cannabinoids found and the percentages.

[@Baqsam99]

_Was she _*_so_*_ careless about taking meds that she forgot the name?!_

[@bwilliamson3887]

Silly comment. She's had a brain injury.

[@beet1508]

XANAX

[@Jack-vw6bc]

Can we please get Howard Stern on JRE?

[@charlest5604]

Maybe the old Stern but not the sell out pussy version he's become.

[@paulthompson8642]

Jack he hates to fly wont happen

[@jakep1979]

I think they had a beef.

[@DapperCracker512]

That would be fucking sweet but Howard has gone to like Cleveland only in the last few years. There and the Hamptons. He went on a rant for hours about how he hated that he got talked into going to Cleveland even.

[@djt8870]

Stern is too big for rogan

[@edwardelric8354]

More baggage than American Airlines

[@joeparker7508]

Xanex

[@Enrgybruh]

firstyyyy

[@captapraelium1591]

knowyourmeme.com/memes/first

[@yoitschrisb]

Joe....Just be sure to continually interrupt

[@willandrews9741]

I am so in love with someone I’ve never even met. Weird. I guess it would sound better to say I got love for her. I am a fan.

[@kidstoney3418]

Shes so gone

[@bethmckay9310]

When it comes to SSRI medications, what works for one person may not work for the next. It sometimes takes a few tries to find the medication that works best for you. While I can respect that Cat Zingano did not have a positive experience on the one medication she tried, a responsible prescriber would have informed her that to begin with, SSRI meds take 4-6 weeks to reach therapeutic levels. Secondly, sometimes it takes a few medications to find the one that works best for your body. I like Joe Rogan, but I really feel he needs to stay in his lane here. While I always believe that psychiatric medication is a personal choice, it is a personal choice that have increased quality (and sometimes quantity!) of life for many people.

[@GCT1990]

Everything you just said tells me your not a intelligent person, you realize you aren't suppose to be on antidepressants long term right? You realize there's no evidence that they work beyond 3 months and there's no safety studies anywhere beyond 6 months. People are so misinformed about psychiatry it's unreal... The reason it takes 4-6 weeks is because ethey need time to disable your brain that's literally how they work, they disable the brain they are literally a neurotoxin. "What's works for some may not for others?" YOU AREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE ON THEM, if they're working for you that's not a good thing. That means they've successfully injured your Central Nervous system (Brain and Spinal cord) and what is a informed doctor with these medications? None of them are informed there's no research beyond 6 months lol, it's all observational and epidemiological which centers around puesdoscience lol read how the DSM-5 was created to see the horrors of psychiatry. I will leave you links you need to read, there's a reason people are upset with Psychiatry people are killing themselves once tolerance withdrawal kicks in. You could be on for 20 plus years but eventually you will damage the brain so much that the pills no longer work causing withdrawal hell SSRI's, SNRI, Antipsychotics and Benzodiazepines are highly linked to dementia, MS, ALS and Nervous system injury. Your doctor knows only what the drug company Rep decides to tell them haha this is well known. You actually said that sometimes it takes multiple medications... Are you insane or crazy? You want to disable the brain faster? And yes I get it, people are suffering with made up diagnoses to which yes, over 87% of the DSM-5 diagnoses are made up and voted on with no scientific research anywhere showing that they exist, you are littling and willining hurting yourself but the worst part is that you're trusting you're doctor who knows less then you, again there's no research beyond 6 months. SSRI'S/SNRI, ANTIPSYCHOTICS AND ANTIDEPRESSANTS SECTION: (Note there's a documentary called "Medicating Normal". If you can find it please watch it for more information) Peter Breggin presentation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2SuXnaln9-psLM Video 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWrFiJdrlJWmr7s Video 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5Szdn6EYs6Hipo Video 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWSciKaFit9lhaM Video 4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGWlq3p_eNqmqrM www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-hidden-harm-of-antidepressants/ www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/what-are-the-real-risks-of-antidepressants www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/what-are-the-real-risks-of-antidepressants Long term effects of medication www.verywellmind.com/long-term-effects-of-antidepressants-4158064 www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(14)70280-9/fulltext www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/is-it-time-to-do-away-with-psychiatry www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190708131152.htm kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3_HZWOLrpunmLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOVm4einM-fZ6s Informed consent: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oF7Rin56fNKUpLc

[@Theshamanomar]

Cat, ayahuasca will eradicate the depression at its source...

[@decimated550]

Shaman Omar oh yeah? Link please

[@myceliumgrow3074]

Shaman Omar ye this was a stupid thing to say. Someone who respects the drug wouldn’t recommend doing it at very low points in your life. Delete this garbage

[@Theshamanomar]

Mycelium Grow someone who doesn’t know the difference between a “Drug” which is what she’s been taking and a medicine (natural plant) should keep their foolish opinions to themselves well. Plant medicines are not only use when you’re high on life, and pull people out of the depths of despair. Anyone who is depressed should know about the natural alternatives.

[@myceliumgrow3074]

Shaman Omar lol stfu. It’s a drug. You can call it medicine or a plant. But it’s still a drug. I’ve done dmt, lsd and many other drugs. It’s a fucking drug. In no way downplaying their potential benefit. But you really seem a lil delusional. Didnt even wanna read all of your stupid comment. Yes antipsychotics are terrible for your brain chemistry and functioning. Since she’s been taking them, why tf would you recommend one of the strongest tryptamines known to man? Especially when there is already proof of the degradation of healthy brain activity after taking antipsychotics for extended periods of time. Stop trying to pretend these DRUGS are a panacea.

[@Theshamanomar]

Mycelium Grow you clearly don’t know what you are taking about.

[@Sergeantoneoneone]

I honestly think that women shouldn’t be doing sports of any kind, specially one as physically demanding as mma. It’s far too stressful and there simply not evolved for it. She even said her cortisol was through the roof, and curled up in fatal positions crying or whatnot. Having to go on pills, it shouldn’t be like that.

[@cameronharris1993]

Weed. Just bout all you need.... in my opinion.

[@mmaforever594]

but u cant blaze if your on ufc roster :(

[@victorruiz5203]

+MMA Forever You absolutely can dude, it's only illegal while you are actually fighting

[@mmaforever594]

if u smoke weed everyday and have for a while, it can cause massive anxiety it gets to the point were it feels like it eats u alive

[@volcommadness]

MMA Forever you can’t blaze a few weeks before the fight that’s all.

[@chaostheory8777]

Jesus Christ cures depression, because depression is a spiritual issue.

[@chaostheory8777]

@@cLqMCqr6Ht You're a mental midget if you need pills

[@aleskindacracked668]

Definitely don’t need either pills or what you’re talking about 😂

[@chipsammich2078]

Looks like she's struggling with upper lip injection addiction

[@123mcgarrigle]

Ricky Rick Imagine that lip brushing down the tip of your meat sword though...

[@chipsammich2078]

Not into fucking girls who look like they've recently had a mild stroke

[@vintincrows6909]

Chip Sammich, you're nuts! Stroke bitches are the hottest in the game, especially the shaking part!

[@vintincrows6909]

aaron francis, thanks, brah, I'll keep killin it!

[@vintincrows6909]

aaron francis, is that a new cocktail? It doesn't have grenadine in it, does it? I'm allergic.

[@yourdaughterdoesanal2650]

She cheated on her husband that's probably one of the reason he committed suicide.

[@Airyed]

Q TIP never!!???

[@AK33M]

Then he's a bitch if he rather die than move on

[@GAZAMAN93X]

@@AK33M you're an idiot