Joe Rogan Defends Homophobic ‘Don’t Say Gay’ Bills

Joe Rogan discusses the "Don't Say Gay" legislation in Florida, disputing the characterization as it being homophobic. ‪@joerogan‬ goes on to say: "Your teachers are not supposed to be the people that explain gender to a...7-year old." Emma Vigeland and the MR crew examine how Rogan defends the ideology behind these anti-LGBTQ+ bills, lighting fire under the bigots’ fight for the right to be violent jerks.
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[@ashlealabine6937]

My previous career was as an educator, and my most recent position was as a preschool teacher in a class of 2 and 3 year olds. I had a child in my class who had 2 mothers and it was often brought up in class. Usually he was the one bringing it up. And children are much more intelligent, and observant than people give them credit for. I could feel the child, and his 4 year old brother, seeking approval in their occasional comments about their mommies. They knew, at their young ages, that their family was a little different. Everyone just wants to belong, regardless of age. I can't imagine shutting down his sweet little voice, telling him that we don't talk about that stuff at school. That breaks my heart. The other students were so accepting. It really wasn't an issue. Young children are so open-hearted, they won't find any perversion in this type of talk, they just love each other.

[@ephemer1125]

Keeping children in the dark or just attempting to only hurts them more when they end up around someone who wants to exploit that ignorance.

[@tabbysmithfield3794]

too bad Rogan wont read that comment.

[@Linguae_Music]

Children lack the mental disability that decades of propoganda, fearmongering, and religious indoctrination bring into the adult mind. I can remember being a child quite clearly... even a lot of stuff from when i was 2. I try to retain the curious, non-judgmental mentality that i had back then... although i cannot always do so perfectly. There were a few years where i absorbed rhetorical poison into my brain... But i grew up surrounded by evangelicals... so, I inevitably absorbed some of the brain poison. It's a very tough task to deprogram yourself. Children are free thinkers, naturally.

[@rankat1841]

Children are born innocent of all and any prejudice or bias. It is taught and retained by the ignorance of those adults around them while growing up. I am a by-product of such influence. I only recognized my own disgustingly taught inherent racist ideology several years after graduating high school. It took several years for me to forgive myself for my previous abhorrent behavior towards my brothers and sisters. Ignorance begets ignorance. Hate begets hate. Love begets love. The correct association for the man made God is this: Love creates. Hate destroys. The creationists among us that have hate in their hearts towards any human being are hypocritical to their own ideology of creationism, which is, love created, (they say God is love) hate or evil, (the devil), destroys.

[@rankat1841]

Absolutely correct.

[@thrillhouse4151]

That’s how you be edgy and antiestablishment, by having the same opinions as grumpy old church going grannies.

[@MHGFTW]

Do you even know what the bill actually says? It limits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identitity for KIDS UP TO GRADE 3, as in kinds 8 years or younger. The bill basically says that topics like that are not age appropriate, and frankly they're not! If the parents want their kids to learn about those subjects when they're 5, that's different. However is it really that weird to keep it out of the classroom until an appropriate age? I didn't even know or ever consider that sex was a thing in the first place, and you people want sexual orientation being discussed in classrooms or 6 year olds?!

[@commandercody1078]

There are kids with gay parents. Are those parents “inappropriate”?

[@ToxicAudri]

@@MHGFTW Hey, here's a point you forgot to consider, who gets to decide what is and isn't "age appropriate" because for many conservatives just talking about gay people or anyone who's LGBT isn't "age appropriate" did you stop to think about that? No of course not, too easily distracted by the vague language. You need to realize that far too many conservatives consider talking about LGBT people is inherently sexual and not age appropriate, that it's grooming kids to be LGBT. And Rogan repeated that conservative talking point That's why we say it's the "don't say gay" bill, because conservatives don't want to normalize alternative sexualities and identitys that aren't the established "normal" heirarchy of how one must be and act. I mean just look at the backlash David Rubin is getting for starting a family with his same sex husband, they are already calling them pedos that are going to groom their kids.

[@JosephJamesScott]

@@MHGFTW Seeing as you are clearly an education specialist, at what age to children normally begin to have questions about sex and gender identity? I mean politicians on the right are usually starting these culture wars to hype up the mouth drooling fuckwits on their side who think they're making a valid points because sex=bad, but as you must be someone who's studied when such topics are age appropriate you can tell us when would you recommend allowing such things to be talked about in schools?

[@SoSoMikaela]

@@MHGFTW Why isn't it age appropriate? You seem to believe that any mention of sexual orientation or gender identity must be explicitly sexual or graphic in nature. That's not even remotely true. That you think it would be says a lot about you, though. You're clearly just projecting your bizarre psychosexual neuroses onto other people. Quite frankly, it's disturbing.

[@pano3607]

Hearing Joe Rogan - a man whose job is to have opinions and say them out loud - question whether teachers are intelligent enough to talk about gender nearly gave me a f**king stroke.

[@ds8249]

To be fair, there are tons of them that aren’t intelligent enough. Usually it’s because they are backwards and bigoted though

[@curiosityl.6261]

Wait what? Lmao...because he doesn't trust AMERICAN TEACHERS?! Dude tell me one fucking thing the public school system brought to you that made you grow and develop? And yet you're going to put your trust in these individuals to teach your 4 year olds about dick? This is so short sided and insane. These people don't teach you ANY life skills 99.9999% of the time, teach you false history, tell you the Unites States is this nation of honor and we save the rest of the world, teach pointless topics after pointless topics and you trust them to teach your kids about sex...How much do they have to fail at and be wrong about to make you lose your trust? Holy shit dude...It's like conservatives who talk about the US the same way I mentioned previous, no matter how much evidence comes out of us just drone striking innocent civilians, or anterior motives that come out conservatives still believe this country isn't an empire and rather a country to hold up on a platform above all others. You people are one in the same in soooo many ways

[@cgStarling]

Not sure why. He's an idiot and always was. But also right wing shows have always said shit like this and no one flips out the same way. And almost all his listeners or watchers are right wing nuts anyway and hear this shit all the time other places including their homes. Rogan is cashing in on it. No different from Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson doing it

[@DescartesStrollsIntoAPub]

Seriously. He should worry more about that roid gut of his and leave public education alone.

[@rainkidwell2467]

@@curiosityl.6261 So what's your solution then? Teach nothing? You don't think a better solution might involve like.. Improving the actual teachers, or the curriculum?

[@thatguyyousawthatonetime]

"Why are we letting teachers teach our kids about history and biology/sexuality" - Conservatives who grew up in the same country and went to the same schools you did.

[@alexdasliebe5391]

“What version of The Bible should they teach?” is they’re dream school itinerary prompt.

[@micahgelfand8282]

@@alexdasliebe5391 Obviously ONLY the true bible, the King James version

[@TruthDissident]

@@alexdasliebe5391 Yes because objecting to the fact that men cannot become women means you're a bible thumper. Got any other steaming takes you wanna spout or do you have to get all your take pre-approved from Seder first?

[@alanparedes2034]

@@micahgelfand8282 Which version of the King James version? 🤴

[@kap1618]

@@TruthDissident that's not a fact.

[@MrPhotodoc]

I want to see Rogan interview Mike Rowe. Watching a couple millionaires tear down working people at this point in time would be the peak of their careers.

[@Eyclonus]

While marketing themselves as regular joes

[@wilcee238]

@Eyclonus “Regular joes”. I see what you did there.

[@rishabhanand4973]

a couple millionaires with a working class aesthetic tear down working class people. edit: just realized eyclonus already said what i just said.

[@maritimeretro2855]

"Hey you know I did a bunch of bad jobs for a single day surrounded by production staff and a catered set, so I know what working people are going through"

[@chadrobert4375]

Has Rogan ever interviewed a trans woman? that’s what I want to see

[@saulgoodman7509]

Joe Rogan is right, just teach kids maths, history, and science. Except the history of slavery, or the science of climate change, medicine or evolution etc.

[@ToxicAudri]

Ah yes, just teach kids to be good wage slaves for the wealthy masta.

[@TheRedRaccoonDog]

Wait until he finds out that science says that trans peoples' identities are valid.

[@namjoonie936]

i wish i was able to have learned about myself in school, i wouldnt hate myself so much.

[@ByrdHakeem]

💯💯💯

[@Richard-jm3um]

I want to thank my weird brain for I have never ever been able to see the appeal of Joe Rogan, a pitiful and uninteresting man...

[@shubhams6949]

So true, I never understood his appeal. He has nothing much to offer in terms of commentary and he uses his 'I am just a normal dude' rhetoric to get away with his prejudiced ways.

[@sprybug]

Yeah. People kept talking about his show, so I gave it a try back in the day, like 5 or so years ago and I got through maybe 15 minutes of it before shutting it off. I didn't get why it was so popular, and I could tell Joe was not a bright guy even back then.

[@Richard-jm3um]

How could millions of people be so interested in this m*ron I'll never understand...

[@GhostInTheMachine165]

​@@Richard-jm3um I use to listen to Rogan a few years ago and personally, the podcast guest was the main appeal, specifically if it was a famous fighter or a well respected fighting coach. I listened to Rogan's stand up (because he claims to be a comedian) and immediately stopped taking his commentary or insight into the comedy world seriously.

[@andnl9819]

@@GhostInTheMachine165 Yes, it was also about the guests for me. Pre-covid and even early Covid JRE had on a pretty diverse array of guests from a ton of different backgrounds. The exposure to people and subjects I otherwise missed was my interest.

[@crispyblack8779]

My granddaughter is in 3rd grade. These kids already know who they like or have crushes on. They have friends with two moms or dads. They know people married to SS partners. It’s ridiculous to believe otherwise. You can’t put this genie back in the bottle, but republicans spend all their time trying to stuff it back in there, while ignoring all of the real problems facing kids, like hunger, lack of healthcare, and school shootings.

[@NotimetoVero]

Perfectly said! 🙌🏼

[@CajunA79]

Hunger...thank Michelle Obama for cutting school meals practically in half.

[@NotimetoVero]

@@CajunA79 what the hell? My brother works at a school cafeteria and this is a lie. Michelle Obama made school lunches healthier which actually made them bigger. When I went to school, subsidized lunches were three chicken nuggets, after 2012 they added veggies, real meat, etc. You people are delusional, and the people who are actively trying to take away school lunches from underprivileged children are Repubs.

[@crispyblack8779]

@@CajunA79 that’s pretty amazing, considering that she has never held an elected office. She promoted healthier options, but funding actually increased after the Hunger-free Kids Act of 2010. Now, stop making me defend the Obamas or any of the other shitlibs!

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@keithbertschin1213]

They should have a ‘don’t say god’ law until young people are of an age where they can make an informed decision on whether to believe Iron Age superstition

[@zagreus5773]

TRUE!

[@ephemer1125]

I like your idea don't push for it though. We're really good at insulting good intentioned religious people into the arms of morons. This is a sure fire way of doing that.

[@andrewbrady6154]

Like after they find out Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren't real !

[@keithbertschin1213]

@@andrewbrady6154 I would say before as there’s more evidence for those 😂

[@lildaddy3030]

Wait. Kids are not informed or intelligent enough to learn about god but, they're informed and intelligent enough to learn about the mental state of a person who was born a man, had surgery to remove actual pieces of their body, Takes drugs to change the chemical and genetic composition of their body, and be told that this person is NO different than the woman who gave birth to them?

[@ramonserna8089]

I cant wait for kyle to make a video to defend him.

[@utterbullspit]

He's been doing that?!

[@andrewrivera1054]

Secular talk?

[@julymagnus493]

Bro chill

[@danbridges4755]

You're right. His takes are really telling lately. I had to unsub.

[@fashionista444]

@Alabama Man 2.0 not true. And a reckless lie.

[@bradley163]

Don't worry, guys. Joe read something on the internet about the positivity of this bill. It's all good. Jesus Christ...Someone needs to revoke Joe's internet privileges.

[@shonehi546tim9]

Free Speech, what a concept. Rules for Me and Rules for Thy

[@jessicacooper2705]

@@shonehi546tim9 do you even understand the 1st Amendment? This constant obtuse not getting it is extremely annoying. Read the Constitution. Jfc

[@luizoliveira6763]

Lol. Nice n' clear.

[@aguyithink4119]

@@shonehi546tim9 freeze peach doesn’t mean access to internet. And while I agree that taking away internet access is a bit silly: Joe kinda stupid.

[@dan18ny]

Which is what people who have never listened to Joe say. For the love of God stop saying things without looking into it yourself

[@SolidBladeSnake]

Read the actual bill on camera.

[@matthewgallant3622]

Just read the actual title. I’ll bet $1K nobody here even knows it.

[@SpaceForceCommander]

Well of course Joe Rogan did. He knows his audience.

[@MHGFTW]

Do you even know what the bill actually says? It limits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identitity for KIDS UP TO GRADE 3, as in kinds 8 years or younger. The bill basically says that topics like that are not age appropriate, and frankly they're not! If the parents want their kids to learn about those subjects when they're 5, that's different. However is it really that weird to keep it out of the classroom until an appropriate age? I didn't even know or ever consider that sex was a thing in the first place, and you people want sexual orientation being discussed in classrooms or 6 year olds?!

[@nothere5250]

@@MHGFTW It's not

[@DarkKnightTrinity]

@@MHGFTW It sure doesn't, it specifies "up to discretion" for older ages.

[@brandonlehmann8899]

@Space Force Commander you do realize how ironic it is to make that comment on a far left you tube channel, right?

[@noomade]

Well even if he does know his audience he is also EXTREMLY dumb!

[@JC-jo9bf]

I am shocked! Shocked that Joe right-wing Rogan is wrong again.

[@ajae...]

No one was trying to shock you.

[@MOZONEandGlambot]

Well not that shocked.

[@MHGFTW]

Do you even know what the bill actually says? It limits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identitity for KIDS UP TO GRADE 3, as in kinds 8 years or younger. The bill basically says that topics like that are not age appropriate, and frankly they're not! If the parents want their kids to learn about those subjects when they're 5, that's different. However is it really that weird to keep it out of the classroom until an appropriate age? I didn't even know or ever consider that sex was a thing in the first place, and you people want sexual orientation being discussed in classrooms or 6 year olds?!

[@nothere5250]

@@MHGFTW It's not spammer

[@dallasbagley]

Joe himself says hes not a conservative.

[@EvilJawa]

"The bill doesn't actually stop you from saying gay!!" Is the lamest, most absentminded argument you can produce.

[@sharper68]

It literally prevents any teacher talking about anything to do with the fact there are gay people. Your head is broken if you think an objection to this repressive Taliban like bullshit is lame. When it comes to lame, empty, dishonest arguments, that is all you have.

[@brainsparks5860]

@@jayweir6375 what’s the nuance here? The “don’t say gay” is a slogan that is used to help people to remember what the bill is about. What the bill is actually DOING is forcing teachers to deny that anyone other than cis gender exists in the world. If you were paying attention to the nuance- you would realize that this is not about sex.

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@@brainsparks5860 No no no no no no no, not even close nice try.

[@5830danny]

@@brainsparks5860 Please point me to the section of the bill that says this.

[@szarmc]

@@PablitaPicasita Of course he didn't read it, he might have to think for himself instead of towing the party line if he did that

[@tenkenroo]

These people know you can explain sexual orientation without explicitly mentioning sex right?

[@65avo65]

No. They do not know. It is very sad.

[@hexum7]

No, they dont. When conservatives hear the word gay, they automatically think "butt sex". They cant imagine anyone not thinking that either.

[@davidfaustino4476]

@@fishbiter9409 it is though. Asexuals are an anomaly and marriage is pretty much SOLELY built on monogamy..

[@micahgelfand8282]

@@davidfaustino4476 Yeah but there are plenty of "monogamous" relationships that are either riddled with affairs or utterly sexless

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@simonvandugteren6010]

Anyone talking about Grade 1 to 3 as "toddlers" loses their place at the debate table.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@@ymirs4400 so that’s what this is about… why do you think your communities need for inclusion supersedes the parents beliefs on what there child should be taught…

[@dannya.2616]

@@Predatorsnightmare school DOESN'T teach what your family deems appropriate. It teaches what SOCIETY deems appropriate. If you disagree, that's a YOU problem, not an US problem. Talk to your kids.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@HouseCatTV]

The absolute bastardisation of the term "grooming" does nothing but harm children who are ACTUALLY at risk. I hate it.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

Are you a parent? Thought not lefties are all students… stop forcing people to subscribe to your nonsense your the minority most people worldwide agree with Joe Rogan

[@adrianrodiguez5127]

Discussing Sexual orientation is sex talk; it is not the place of Teachers to discuss this with their pre-k students, so yeah, grooming seems like the appropriate word to describe what they are doing.

[@dannya.2616]

@@adrianrodiguez5127 by your definition, the sentence "my mom and dad are dead" is sex talk.

[@adrianrodiguez5127]

@Danny A. More on the lines of Teacher to student: Hey Do you like boys? Do you like girls? Do you like boys and girls? Kids Its okay to like a boy; it's okay to like a girl. It's okay to experiment and have boyfriends or girlfriends. In theory, according to the Parental Rights in Education, even a conservative teacher could not talk to a student about their homosexual parents on whether it's wrong or right. It is not a teachers place period.

[@cdavis7529]

At this point he's just another right wing nut job.

[@state924]

Not crazy, just a grifter. Clout chaser.

[@Horus-Lupercal]

Always has been. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mpgallogly]

A right-wing nut job who endorsed Bernie Sanders 😆

[@hawaiianrobot]

@@mpgallogly depends on who the person he spoke to last was

[@cdavis7529]

@@mpgallogly there's no point to anything you just said

[@elisawhitman8526]

4:25 I agree. First & second graders aren’t toddlers. When my daughter was in second grade, she got in a bit of “trouble” for explaining evolution to her classmates. A week later, I was called into school again because she used a complex argument to prove hell didn’t exist after she heard a boy tell another kid to “go to hell.” Bottom line, my kid is awesome (obviously), and seven-year-olds are a LOT smarter than conservatives think.

[@andromidius]

100%. Of course some kids are dumb too, but they are the ones who grow into dumb adults. Children are very intuitive and learn very quickly, ask very direct questions with no bullshit. If not nurtured from a young age then they'll never be able to learn, struggle with basic concepts and just accept the first thing they hear on any given subject rather then question it and figure it out for themselves.

[@diallo1347]

Those 7 year olds are smarter than a lot House Reps and Senators too

[@rishabhanand4973]

oh they know, and that's what they're afraid of.

[@DavidRichardson153]

I think those kids Ben Shapiro tried to push his beliefs on also proved that point.

[@MHGFTW]

Up to age 5, you learn some letters and numbers, and how to get allong with other kids. At age 6 you learn basic math, reading and writing. Adding numbers together, subtracting, reading and writing short words. At age 7 and 8, it gets a little more complex, but there is no way there's any need to bring up sex at such a young age. A lot of those kids still haven't been told santa isn't real. Why would we need to bring them up to speed on genital biology or sexual orientation?

[@IvyLeather13]

Can't wait to hear Kyle Kulinski explain this away

[@kekwayblaze3176]

Will Kyle blame the "woke" for this one? That seems to be the standard defense Rogan apologists like Kulinski use.

[@PR--un4ub]

I haven't been to his channel in years; how bad is he nowadays?

[@sleepyhead8681]

@@PR--un4ub Talking about the "Deep state" now. he means 1% but that's terrible wording and staning FDR/LBJ/Bernie so hard.

[@Khalkara]

@@PR--un4ub Pretty bad. He initially took the reactionary side on Ukraine and it took him getting called out by Vaush in a debate before he began to be more notably anti-russia.

[@Adeus1]

You guys are totally unfair. I'm no Jimmy guy. But, Kyle has been completely fair about the Ukrainian v Russia conflict. Now I have my beef with Kyle's response to Ana v Dore. On this issue, he has basically followed the Chomskyite train of thought on the issue. Expansion of NATO up to the Russian border...bad! Russian invasion of Ukraine with indiscriminate casualties, criminal. We need to unite amongst the left. Let's not be tribal. Let's be analytical.

[@Venomln45]

Don’t worry breaking points will defend joe Rogan has as usual!

[@josue24]

Seriously. Breaking points is so embarrassing when they defend him.

[@shushuyu]

i unsubbed to kyle mainly because of his absolute defense of his friend, rogan. i unsubbed to breaking points too before i unsubbed to kyle. i wonder if he's actually defending rogan on this issue too.

[@GS-kj5pc]

They will ignore ignore it

[@tbone0785]

They're cucks for Joe. They know the blowback that'll occur if they even mildly criticize him. It's rather pathetic.

[@HoopityHoop17]

@@shushuyu it’s his chumminess with Dore that got me to unsubscribe

[@am-lx4wp]

This discussion was exhausting. The reason we don’t want floridas don’t say gay bill is because there’s no basis for it. It just more legislation that is not supported with facts. It seems like these people don’t have kids and/or young kids. These discussions that florida Desantis wants people to think are occurring are not actually happening. He’s passing legislation to check boxes to get votes it’s that simple.

[@aaronsande]

Matt Binder on the right has young kids. Otherwise you're right, it IS simple. This bill is to prevent kids of gay parents from hearing about their parents or discussing them in school. Only straight parents can be discussed.

[@mendoza2489]

No it's because my 5 year old son doesn't need to learn about anything sex related from a public school teacher. That's the job of my wife and I.

[@TheBleachj16]

@@mendoza2489 That most likely wasn't happening anyway you weirdo. Besides kids that age are already probably developing crushes.

[@TruthDissident]

@@TheBleachj16 "Besides kids that age are already probably developing crushes." - Most kids are already developing innocent crushes so what's the problem with teaching them about drag queens and transsexualism?? - You probably Starting to wonder if most leftists are left wing because it allows them to justify their fucked up proclivities.

[@eddiefinlaw8045]

@@TruthDissident why you projecting bro?

[@comicog3]

I used to agree with that republican opinion. I was in my school's gay straight alliance, I was super pro gay marriage. But I thought it would confuse kids. Eventually, watching my sister, who was sixteen years my junior, try to kiss and emulate the stuff she saw in Disney movies, I realized that no one is saying straight romance is confusing for kids, only gay. It's a back alley argument that the tgbtq should be rendered invisible. I never cared about representation and its still far from my biggest issue, but it IS important.

[@tonygomez4966]

It operates on the false assumption that being gay is a choice and that being exposed to gay folks will influence kids to “choose” a “gay lifestyle”.

[@namjoonie936]

you dont care about representation because you already have it :) .. i say this in the nicest way possible, not trying to start a fight.

[@namjoonie936]

also wtf is tgbtq

[@enriquesanchez9016]

@@namjoonie936 What do you mean, "already have it"? If Republicans have the last word with all their fundamentalist laws, no representation at all will be allowed anywhere.

[@BillDownhill]

The bill only says they can't teach sex ed to kids under 9 years of age. "Don't Say Gay" was a leftist creation to smear the bill. They talk about this in the video. How do you not understand that?

[@DarkKnightTrinity]

I'm glad Matt said it. Preventing children from frank discussions about sexuality leads to higher risk of child abuse.

[@albertcovington9942]

Frank discussions about sexuality should happen at home. Not in K-2nd grade classrooms . Which is the ages this bill deals with.

[@jonm7888]

Joe pushes any right wing talking point that liberals might agree with.

[@ToxicAudri]

Yup, joe is a pipeline to the right wing. Yet another rabbit hole to be wary of.

[@samsungfanboy]

Every once in a blue moon, Joe Rogan says something okay and reasonable like when Ben Burgis was on. He then proceeds to come out on the next episodes and nullifies it by saying bullshit like this

[@tbone0785]

He doesn't have a complete grasp of any social, political, or economical topic. He's only an expert in MMA. So when these people come on his show he just molds himself to them. He rarely pushes back because he just doesn't have the knowledge.

[@hawaiianrobot]

@@tbone0785 even when it comes to MMA he's really just phoning it in. he wasn't on one ESPN broadcast, but still messaged in to another commentator about some bullshit joe was reading into way too much, turned out it wasn't a thing at all. he's just been on "OH MY GOD HE'S ROCKED" when a fighter deflects a glancing blow for the last however long. easily one of the worst commentators on main UFC events

[@DarkPuppy9]

He said a lot of fucked up shiit when Ben was on, and Ben who knew better was both unprepared and unwilling to push back.

[@BrentWalker999]

@@DarkPuppy9 like what? I haven't seen those episodes?

[@Predatorsnightmare]

Or maybe just maybe it’s possible you both have fundamentally different views I won’t say which is valid but I think more people would agree with rogan on this topic

[@happyh.joyjoy654]

Joey wants his kids to be taught science? Well... I guess they gotta learn that shit somewhere, because they definitely aren't gonna be getting that information at home.

[@mickiec5298]

💯

[@zagreus5773]

But can we trust teachers with teaching our kids science? What if they have an agenda? They might teach them the earth is flat. Or that the moon landing is fake. I think teaaching science is the parents responsibility! Also, who knows what those teachers do with your kids all day. Isn't it scary that we leave a bunch of kids with a random adult in a room he can lock whenever he likes? Maybe let all teaching be done by the parents, if we can't trust teachers talking about gender, then we can't trust them with anything!

[@sm1thsisdead]

Such contempt for parents. Man, especially those poor parents who struggle raising their kids, they suck, don’t they?

[@AllFascistsCanSuckIt]

@@sm1thsisdead Not contempt for parents. Contempt for evil republican bigotry and bullshit. 🖕

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@tylerhackner9731]

Of coooourse he does smh

[@nicholasrapose196]

Dude that ending… A trans kindergarten teacher spirited away baby Brayden to the global south to make them a communist revolutionary…. Bruhhh 😂😂

[@SoSoMikaela]

I wish Joe would explain why it's wrong to talk to 1st-3rd graders about sexual orientation and gender identity specifically only when it regards anything non-cishetero. Because this veil of acceptance to hide bigotry is getting old. Tell your audience, Joe. Tell them why you think being LGBTQ+ is deviant and harmful and not fit conversation to have in front of children.

[@joeymorales2565]

sad thing is he doesnt have to. his audience is a a special kind of fucked libertarian-brained weirdos that act like they arent conservative while still being conservative.

[@jessicabe3278]

@Arvin ant The bill does not explicitly say don't say gay bill, regardless of the expressed content of the bill. Let's put that perspective into context. Don't drive the car out can't be so if not explicit even when considering the following statements...don't take they keys, head to the car, place the keys onto the ignition, and proceed to drive out. If someone decides to explain it as safekeeping, rather than don't drive my car out, it just can't be the latter.

[@SoSoMikaela]

@@thedj3319 Talking about people's sexual orientations is not abstract thinking. And if you think that discussions and depictions of straight relationships (mommies and daddies) are a) not appropriate for children and b) are going to be removed or otherwise targeted by a bill like this the same as non-cishet ones, then you're fooling yourself. That has never been an issue and no one is objecting to that - nor should they. This bill is _entirely and specifically_ motivated by anti-LGBTQ sentiments and if you can't understand that glaringly obvious fact, you're the one that is lacking in brainpower. Shoo.

[@DarkPuppy9]

@@thedj3319 ah yes, because kids can't understand having two moms is different from the kids with a mom and a dad. But go on about that class you definitely didn't pay attention in if you took it at all.

[@joeymorales2565]

@@thedj3319 using, the ability to process abstraction, is a bit of an interesting choice here. And what @Mikaela Rose is saying is absolutely at the core of the issue. Heteronormative language/curriculum is the exact thing that is being challenged, and by trying to play it off as "REAL" science, that should be the default framework for how kids are raised; we do a huge disservice to any child who isn't that way.

[@serialk86salt51]

I can't wait for Kyle Kulinski to call him out on this issue. ...yup, any day now.

[@bigbaddawg101]

Kyle's got his mouth full.

[@Bickle121]

He won’t, he’s desperate to keep his JRE slot open

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@bigbaddawg101]

@@bubblybubbles9052 Bullshit.

[@kingjro2]

Joe Rogan "Im not a Republican." Also Joe Rogan "Spews Republican talking points"

[@selfishcapitalist3523]

He also spews Dem talking points wrt income inequality, healthcare, gay rights etc.

[@vincentgioffre9173]

Yeah Joe spews and supports 10 times more progressive talking points, but you will NEVER here Majority Report talk about that.

[@kingjro2]

@@vincentgioffre9173 lol nah. They actually have mentioned that. But he spews way more garbage like this.

[@vincentgioffre9173]

@@kingjro2 if anyone is spewing Garbage it’s Emma, she is so cringe 😬 and way off on how she portrays Rogan, he is definitely Not the person she portrays him to be, it’s embarrassing for her.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@bestgrandma2844]

I worked at Planned Parenthood and had a 5 year old boy at the time. I thought, I know exactly how our bodies work and when my son asks the birds and bees question I have it down. I will have zero problems explaining, and my child will get a better answer than most kids get from their parents..... Then my son asked the question.... I thought, "I've got this", started trying to answer and could mostly stutter, was turning red and was completely overwhelmed by having the talk with my 5 year old. I ended up getting a book from the PP library to read to him, then told him if he had any questions just ask. Teachers are a HUGE help in teaching these things to our children.

[@albertcovington9942]

Nope. It's your job and not a K-2ND grade teacher

[@johnnyprgesa4271]

Teachers should be teaching kids to be positive motivated understanding and respectful to their elders. Not about sexual orientation because its wrong children should reach puberty in a naturally.

[@absolutelycitron1580]

I was low key surprised for a second because I had read Joe Biden not Rogan. Once I saw Rogan I was like oh ya duh 🙄

[@EyeLabPNiece]

Low key won't be surprised if Bidne did do it. He did use the slur F*gs during one of his speeches. Could you imagine if Trump did that?

[@curiosityl.6261]

@@massinakmin8340 Used to...Lmao dude...You're acting so ignorant. The man is a political hack who still holds very racist views, is weird towards children, and has said and done so many off color things to women. Let's not normalize this man, he's directly responsible for thousands, if not more black people being locked up for decades for small drug offences...irreprehensable. To put progressive anywhere near his name is a joke, he's a war mongering, racist, likely pedophile establishment elitist...Okay? Okay.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@Rishabh_Bhawsar]

@@EyeLabPNiece trump has said worse so he deserves to get more heat

[@betterthanrae8137]

Do you think Joe realizes that outlawing discussion of gender or orientation means talking about 'mommies with daddies' or 'boys are different than girls' or ' boys liking girls'? Like, it doesn't specify which gender or orientation, they are also outlawing discussion of normative social roles as well. As a society, we talk about these things with children all the time-its just that we talk about the "normal" ones. You think Joe ever mentions to his children that "mommy and daddy are in love"? Probably not. That would be indoctrination, you see.

[@noalowenstein6741]

the bill does use the phrase "age-appropriate" (which is code for the Bad Sexualities)

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Common...

[@matthewgallant3622]

It doesn’t “outlaw” anything. It requires you to get parental permission. How the fuck hard is that? They’ve been doing that for sex Ed since ever.

[@betterthanrae8137]

@@matthewgallant3622 so, your saying we need a new law to do something that "weve been doing forever"?

[@lyght01]

What ever happened to teach kids about reading writing and arithmetic... stop sexualizing children... gay or straight talking to babies about sex is creepy.

[@crispyblack8779]

Look at joe, spewing his opinions all over the place. I thought that he “just asks questions” or “listens to differing opinions”?

[@mendoza2489]

Joe speaks to an adult audience and person he's interviewing not an impressionable 5 year old.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Common...

[@matthewgallant3622]

@@mendoza2489 👏👏👏 best answer ever. You’ve won the internet.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

@@PablitaPicasita Yes, read the bill... Good grief... It's in the bill...

[@noomade]

"Just because you have a roid gut" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 DEAD!

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Topic is about grooming teachers and you focus on the Bubble gut... no wonder there are so many pedos out there...

[@mrblonde1264]

Amazing how when Joe has acquired huge wealth & moved to a red state,welcomed by the Republican governor,he now spouts Republican talking points at every opportunity.Cant believe I used to enjoy that podcast

[@dallasbagley]

Maybe you're the problem.

[@fingersm]

Agree. Been a serious shitshow past couple years!

[@randoguy5767]

Right there with you.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

Is Rogan still pretending he isn't a conservative?

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Are you still pretending you have watched an episode of Rogan? Ignorance is bliss.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

@@bubblybubbles9052 what are you saying bud?

[@genethomas4863]

When you hide in a closet you protest alot

[@ShaithMaster]

I doubt he's gay. He's an insecure dude.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

Causally homophobia from the left nothing surprising

[@scottgray493]

Joe Rogan has proved that he's just a bag of air.

[@tjasdead]

joes new right wing friends/listeners are really rubbing off on him....

[@agny369]

yeah man , its a shame I used to watch every now and then when he had an interesting guest on, but his riffing has been so anti-intellectual lately that instead of a place where you could go to learn about something from someonee (NDT, Chappelle, Malcolm Gladwell, Russell Brand, etc.) which is the only time I'd watch, now I view it as basically a right wing opinion show. Even the guy he has on there I've watched before just to hear what he has to say, because he has an interesting perspective and he's not an active political operative, the ex-CIA guy Mike something iirc. I dont even check to see whos on there anymore because hes become such a contrarian, anti-intellectual jackass and he's part of the right wing cultural conglomerate. Im open to hearing alot of points of view always, but current right wing ideology (where left right is relative to the times we're in) is basically Neo-Fascism, and I already know enough about fascists that I know im not gonna waste a few hours listening to that bullshit anymore. It's kinda sad, i was never a HUGE fan but I certainly had a higher regard for what he did 3 years ago than I do now.

[@TruthDissident]

You fucks think anything right of Lenin is "right wing"

[@tjasdead]

@@agny369 yep i feel the same way, ive listened to hundreds of his podcasts over the years... i barely get through 1 now

[@tjasdead]

@@TruthDissident if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....Its a duck!!!

[@TruthDissident]

@@tjasdead The force is weak with this one.

[@cgStarling]

Wish they would just be honest and say it's not that they're scared that their kids might be turned gay (even tho they really arent...lol) but rather there upset that their kids won't be taught to ridicule and hate Trans and gay ppl

[@shibbet]

Ya know just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean you have a burning hatred for it?

[@shibbet]

You’re so dramatic lol

[@cat_city2009]

We need to learn how to convince people like Rogan. Believe it or not, most people are pretty reactionary, especially on gender and sexuality stuff.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Convince us it is ok for teachers to keep secrets with kids? Groomers!! Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Wake up...

[@cat_city2009]

"duh duhh da gays are groomers" It's like you people are stupid on purpose.

[@juliustarrant5149]

In other words we need to manipulate Rogan

[@ericblevins3301]

Joe Rogan: I want you to teach the f**** science. Me (a science teacher): If he only knew what science says about the differences between gender and sex, I'd bet he wouldn't want their science teacher to teach them the science.

[@maritimeretro2855]

truthfully, they would just call it propagandist science, the way they refer to vaccine data. Which is exactly why these people shouldn't be making laws

[@matthewgallant3622]

There is not one real scientist on your side. No biologist, no psychologist, none. Science is not on your side at all.

[@maritimeretro2855]

@@matthewgallant3622 Yeah you're right, provided we simply ignore their existence. Nobody with more than an IQ of 60 is on your side buddy. So, enjoy your company

[@matthewgallant3622]

@@maritimeretro2855 Actually all normal, sane people are.

[@maritimeretro2855]

@@matthewgallant3622 No they aren't. Just your echo chamber

[@pictureperfect3211]

How the fuck can you say that a qualified person should be able to have these conversations out of one side of your mouth, and then say it should be left to the parents to explain, out of the other side of his mouth.

[@jameswilliams6468]

They act like teachers have so much time on their hands they have a daily hour long huddle about sexuality.

[@rahlewis63]

This!!! Anyone who thinks like this has NEVER met a school teacher.

[@Inngrimm]

Anyone who says this doesn't have a kid going to public school. My 5 year old shouldn't be coming home and telling me "My teacher told the class today that 'If you all don't want to be boys or girls one day, that's okay.' Is that right?"

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@@Inngrimm they believe it’s right these aren’t regular people we can discuss politics with these are radical extremists

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@jshowa o your comment shows your wilful ignorance. What’s the suicide rate for transgender people? Isn’t it rising from 40% even after the public acceptance. Therefore it’s not harmless and it’s very very very serious if somebody is genuinely suffering gender dysphoria they should have the help but the children who are just experimenting are being failed by the system this is not medicine and not how medicine ever worked especially on children.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@jshowa o Okay but I also read that women’s book about transgender teenagers Abigail Shrier.. I have an extremely strong opinion on what I read regarding the current situation regarding doctor censorship and politically altered practise I will however remain neutral and state that there is definitely conversations to be had…. Not wanting those conversations and just acting like everything is fine I think is a bad line to cross and I would start to question do trans activist actually care anymore? Have you achieved enough rights that now you’ve gone overboard and gone from progressive into regressive?

[@charlesperkins3669]

As a 72 year old, I don't remember classroom discussions on sexuality in grades 1 thru 3. I don't feel I missed out on anything because other topics were deemed important. By my age , you all appear to be what I'd call youngbloods. What about sexuality did you learn in your early classrooms and do you feel you missed something?

[@banonKING]

What?! Brandon with the Demon Slayer fit?!

[@yodamaster757]

Lol it’s amazing that these news networks would never offer to have them come on and actually talk about what he actually feels.

[@Eusantdac]

Emma with the F-bomb at 13:12 lmao

[@j0j0dartiste21]

We stan a potty mouthed queen

[@cyborggrizzly4577]

The most sinister part of the don’t say gay bill is that after third grade you can talk about stuff that’s “age appropriate” without defining what is age appropriate. A senior in high school could ask his teacher how their spring break was and if the teacher says he saw a movie with his husband a parent can claim that it’s not appropriate and claim it traumatized the 18 year old which is bull shit but now that teacher is getting sued cause of this bill and might lose his career

[@hmpf]

I don't understand this concern. So is a senior in high school going to tell his parent that their teacher saw a movie with their husband over spring break? And you're worried that the parent is going to deem it "not appropriate"?

[@Nemo12417]

@@hmpf That's the argument. Many on the right are pretty open about their belief that anything to do with gay people is inherently indecent (just look at what happened to Dave Rubin recently).

[@hmpf]

@@Nemo12417 What happened to this Dave Rubin?

[@nelsonth]

@@hmpf the right wing dragged him for announcing he was going to have surrogate babies with his husband. And it wasn't just the surrogacy aspect, it was the fact that two gay men were going to bring up children.

[@hmpf]

@@nelsonth I'm also curious about this issue. Do you think there are any differences to a gay couple raising a child vs a straight couple, or is there absolutely no difference at all?

[@TheOldSchoolGamer93]

Again its Joe not thinking past his first instincts and probably just going off someone else's opinion he heard

[@xenosbreed]

'Its not don't say gay at all! What it is you're not supposed to talk about sexual orientation.' Joe... JOE! Its the same thing. Also it does apply k-12 if the parents deem the discussion 'age inappropriate' and lets the parents sue. You think teachers are going to risk that? It IS don't say gay

[@polemius01]

In matters of sex ed, Americans always confuse "ignorance" with "innocence." Why does teaching them about what they want to know about sex (which, at the ages at which the bill is targeted, is quite basic) make them less innocent? As to the information given to us by one of the crew: Color me surprised!

[@joshuagriffin8069]

Because it’s the parents right to teach their kids those subjects the way they wish, especially since a lot of teachers don’t share parents values or worldview and may teach with a woke post-modernist worldview flavor that runs counter to the parent’s beliefs. Elementary school teachers should teach kids academics, its the parents responsibility to instill values and introduce delicate subjects. Nothing wrong with leaving these topics to parents K-3rd grade.

[@polemius01]

@@joshuagriffin8069 Well, isn't that a "rainbows and unicorns" perception of parenting? If parents' values are inimical to the development of a healthy attitude towards sex in any way, shape, of form, then their values suck, and the children desreve to learn about sex in an objective environment. I would trust a trained educator with integrity more than I would take the chance that some fanatic parents might ruin their children's experience of sex with supersitious nonsense or rabid fanatical ideas about the topic. I suppose parents have the right to destroy their children's sexuality, but I would fight against that heppening!

[@matthewgallant3622]

In high school when you take sex Ed you need to get a permission slip from your parents. Why is it so unreasonable you do it with 5 year olds? Also 5 year olds don’t have sexual thoughts or feelings. They are very mailable and should not be taught these things at the age of 5. It’s disgusting you’d actually want to teach kindergarten kids about this stuff. They don’t need you “enlightening” them. Teach them what the fuck you’re paid to teach them. Would it kill you??

[@matthewgallant3622]

@@joshuagriffin8069 Exactly it’s not their kids. They’re paid to teach a curriculum not whatever the fuck they want.

[@matthewgallant3622]

@@polemius01 You don’t get to decide who teaches them about sex. They. Not. Your. Kids. It’s not “fanatical” to not want you reaching my 5 year old about gay sexuality without my permission. Have your own kids and teach them.

[@rve420]

"There were only dictators until 1776!" - Joe Rogan, during his podcast with the owner of the lamest virtue signalling named coffee company. (Black Rifle Coffee Company) Yes Toe Rogan, teachers need to teach such a variety of topics because of parents like you.

[@jonstrickland4848]

It took decades upon decades to drag the GOP towards equal rights for the homosexual community. It always takes years to drag them to the proper side of an issue.

[@marksc4636]

They’re still not there yet.

[@Kreepykrypt1984]

Actually they’re trying to reverse it lol

[@MimiB1974]

Once they get there, qonservatives pretend they were on the right side. Pretty amazing

[@MimiB1974]

@Panda Seducer things were worse in the US right after slavery and integration too. Every time an oppressed group is granted rights, the loud and ignorant kick up dust… and a few years later we collectively pretend we’ve always been forward moving

[@MimiB1974]

@Panda Seducer I’m not rationalizing facts. When slavery ended, white conservatives made sure black people wouldn’t be able to participate in their newly awarded “freedoms”. They created laws that would exclude them for 100 years. Abolitionists we’re considered “radical left” also. It’s not the diss you believe it ti be

[@scottlafleur4148]

Your discussion of toys reminded me of the Friends episode where Ross's son Ben is playing with a Barbie. That was the mid 90's and here we are 25 years later. 😔

[@Chopper650]

The 'no grooming kids" bill

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Exactly. It is sad how many on here are brain dead...

[@brainsparks5860]

I'm a teacher, and I want to thank the Majority Report for posting this. Their take is so correct! And, it is so effing disappointing what Joe Rogan's take is. I met him years ago in a work setting where he held the power, and he really was a kind and cool guy. He really needs to shut his mouth now!

[@sgreen11379]

let kids just be kids

[@adrianrodiguez5127]

Many parents do not agree that young children should be learning about sexual orientation at school, whether it's straight Gay or bisexual. The bill is to protect the rights of the parents to choose this rule. If a child has homosexual parents, by theory, the bill should prevent even conservative teachers from speaking against that, as it is not their place to do so, and it should be that way. It is simply not a matter to be discussed by a teacher period. Let's set the record straight. According to progressives, sex and gender are not the same thing. Many do not want to conflate the word Woman and Man with sex (sex being Male and Female). Sex is binary. How do we know this? Well, we got xx and xy chromosomes. This determines what type of reproductive systems the person will have. XX are female, and XY are males, and we all know what type of anatomy each gender, excuse me, sex will grow to develop. A Girl is a child (or young) Female and a Woman is an Adult Female. As is Boy and a Man. These are terms that describe our biology. This is science. The idea that a man can be a woman or a woman can be a man is, will just an ideology. Sexual orientation is sex talk; again, it is not the place of Teachers to discuss this with their pre-k students, so yeah, grooming seems like the appropriate word to describe what they are doing. So sad to see teachers wanting to push political ideologies on children. You should have never been allowed that position.

[@jordanchobson]

This blows my mind. Children are having these conversations EARLY and need honestly and help.

[@TruthDissident]

No kid at 4 years old is seriously having these convos.

[@samiamrg7]

+Don't drink the Kool-Aid I mean, it depends in what the child is exposed to. If they see a same sex couple on the street, they may or may not ask what that’s about. They aren’t asking about sex, they are asking about the basics of human relationships, like “Oh, a man can love a man just like a mommy can love a daddy.”

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Yes, from the parents.... Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Common...

[@TruthDissident]

@@samiamrg7 Once again no child is organically having these convos unless weirdos like you bring it up to them.

[@matthewgallant3622]

@@samiamrg7 They’re asking their parents this. Not you. And guess what? Teachers are allowed in this bill to get parental permission. That’s the whole point of the bill. It’s called the Parental Rights in Education Bill not “don’t say gay.”

[@aaronsande]

If your PARENTS...are GAY...you should get to TALK ABOUT...your PARENTS...in SCHOOL...just like EVERY STRAIGHT FAMILY CAN.

[@gcheftjgfba2655]

"n let the priests babysit em"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JHorvathCinema]

I’ll start worrying about indoctrination when they successfully indoctrinate my kids to bring home their damn hat and mittens..

[@danielsullivan345]

If you actually read the full bill in it’s entirety, it’s a very reasonable and common sense bill that covers sexuality all together and explaining it shouldn’t be taught at such a young age in schools. From a parent standpoint, it’s up to parents to talk about that with their children if they even choose to do so and not the governments job.

[@Clear-text]

Don't bring common sense to this comment section!

[@danielsullivan345]

@@Clear-text 😂 I know what was I thinking!!

[@2paczghozt100]

The left doesnt care for common sense much...i don't even think the bill bars teachers from talking to kids about gender, sex etc..it says that they just have to inform the parents if they do

[@David-tf2wx]

Dude, exactly. Unfortunately you can’t reason with fools, They’ll just double down on their nonsense. When I actually looked into the bill I was like oh that’s definitely reasonable. But of course people are mindless zombies and go off of the 3 word description like the idiots they are.

[@whiteknob7944]

Looks like someone hasn’t done their homework. Naughty naughty.

[@wilcee238]

Now I get why Dana White-Supremacist hired Slow Rogan.

[@marklee4967]

I once worked at a private school where same-sex parents for very common and it was a subject that came up among the children very often. I also experienced a young boy who was express the belief that he was a female at 5 years old. It was a wonderful experience working there and one of the things I can tell you is children are aware of a lot more than we give them credit for.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

I also worked at a school and transgenderisim spread like fire we went from having none to 13 in one year it was clearly all peer pressure and rebellion what was most disturbing was the school clearly encouraged it which lead to more kids doing it. 20 years ago these would have been normal school it’s really sad.

[@marklee4967]

That's one way of looking at what happened. What if these feelings were always present in our society and our prejudices how to force people to choose. What if human sexuality was for more fluid then I Ridgid religious systems allowed. Now that we're actually starting to push the bounds of personal freedom maybe we're seeing more of our true sexual nature. When behaviors are first prohibited and then allowed you first see a spike and then a decline as they reach their natural levels.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@@marklee4967 Well tbh I don’t have a problem with it I don’t think it’s normal but who cares if a small population want to be whatever gender, however the problem occurs when you consider the suicide rate of transgender people and it hasn’t been lowered despite the public acceptance. I think the reason for this is obvious gender reassignment therapy was (hopefully) created for people with actual gender dysphoria and in theory I see how access to that treatment would help those people. But when doctors are beginning with a conclusion and giving therapy to children to enroll them in a group with a 40% suicide rate it’s a problem. I just don’t see how any sane adult can advocate for injecting a 6 year old with life altering hormone therapy to break some kind of societal barrier?… the child is not a political agent if he wants to do girl things let him kids SHOULD NOT be to changing their gender is an opportunity to become part of a group because then you are playing politics with children’s lives.

[@Predatorsnightmare]

@@marklee4967 I would also like to add the theory of gender being a social construct was debunked by the guy who claimed it first.. check out Dr John Money

[@marklee4967]

Despite her efforts to make transgender acceptable in our society it's not. A child who is transgendered in Los Angeles may have a better experience than a child in saying Dallas Texas Orlando Florida. That doesn't mean that it's acceptable or is that they feel part of society. I feeling I too well understand being black male in our society. My experience is much better here in Los Angeles then it is when I leave the city. I've gone into restaurants and not been served I've been spit on at music venues and of course profiled by the police. Not taking account being gay or lesbian are transgender and not only are you discriminated against the majority of the population but by members of your own race are your own church. Who would really want to live in that environment. I do agree with you that no one should be injecting a six-year-old with with hormones. My experience people who go through gender-affirming therapy are usually in there early teens and at that point have gone through years of therapy. I'll check out the doctor that you referred to me to see what he says I'm unfamiliar with his work. For this isn't a study to me this is just experiences in my life. One of the great things about growing up in Los Angeles is there are a lot of people who are out about their sexual preferences and you can have really great conversations with people are actually having these feelings and living these lives.

[@saulgoodman7509]

The guy who talks the most needs a camera. Its weird watching 3 silent people listen to a disembodied voice.

[@PeacefulPariah]

He's getting one. I agree. They're doing an office remodel and Matt will be on camera when it's finished.

[@ryanricks3002]

Lol yes we got a shy one here but confident in what he says like Jamie on Rogan side likes to chit chat but seldom seen

[@carlwheezer1030]

It's the producer or something like that so they didn't think theyd need a camera as far as I'm aware

[@fblthpthblfp79]

He’s less a disembodied voice and more a series of tubes.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

That's Matt Lech. He's cute as heck too :D You can see him all the time on "Left Reckoning."

[@ceceliawight7059]

Once they found out everyone knew about the Tulsa Race Massacre, they had to change the focus.

[@CJM51392]

"Only teach science" Ok, so what about science like biology that shows many species in the animal kingdom feature homosexuality? What about history? Is it illegal to tell 3rd graders that Alexander the Great was gay? It is part of that story and history.

[@monicamazzaro2811]

Yes! Lack of respect is a spot on assessment of this attitude towards "children"...that they claim to supposedly care about.

[@matthewgallant3622]

I promise you parents care 1,000 times more about their kids than people like you. That’s why all the bill does is allow them say. The fact that all leftists oppose the bill tells us all we need to know about you.

[@monicamazzaro2811]

@@matthewgallant3622 no, it doesn't. I have kids but you go on and keep assuming, Ace! 🫡

[@SamieCarvalho]

I work in a kindergarten where we talk openly about the existence of LGBTQAI people with no fuzz. Of course the explanation is age appropriate and the kids as young as 3 yo have no problem whatsoever in understand that there is people who love people of the same gender and there is people with diverse gender identities. We have one student that from age of 4 already shows signs of a gender identity that isn’t her biological sex. She dresses as a girl, everybody treats her as so, no fuzz, no questions and no heads exploding. Kids are faaar more understanding and smart than what “cancervatives” think.

[@kentgriffith3119]

What kind of science does Joe want to teach? Ivermectin?

[@Adeus1]

The gentleman with the cool glasses has nailed it 100% 15:10 Man, this guy brought the best even towards the end of the video. Very thoughtful response.

[@micahgelfand8282]

Brandon has some awesome takes

[@chimingito]

Can I get a link to the clip by itself without the groomers interjecting every 2 seconds? I wanna hear what he actually said.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Leftists never allow speech. It's their main way of stopping Lefties from realizing they are puppets...

[@stevec6427]

I went to school in the 80's. We had two brothers in our class who were bullied mercilessly because they had two dads. Maybe if we hadn't seen it as weird then they wouldn't have been treated any differently to anyone else.

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

Bloat Rogan:" And tomorrow I'm going to fucking double down on all this."

[@gcheftjgfba2655]

Great point about the toys. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@wintersmill4853]

Joe isn’t transphobic… he just doesn’t think men who transitioned to a woman competing in sports isn’t fair. He is right, it isn’t.

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

There’s nothing remotely homophobic about the bill they know it’s not called the don’t say gay bill right do they of course they don’t because the majority report couldn’t bother to read eight pages,I mean how rude of me to expect the the majority report to read an eight page bill before they make ridiculous objections and assertions about it.

[@HighTech636]

I’ve read it. It’s mostly unenforceable since it’s so vague. It just means more government, more lawyers and more courts injected into the lives of working class Americans. Thanks “Conservative” party. What a fix. And for what? A problem (not problem) that only paranoid right wingers imagine is a problem. What a fix. America almost great again!

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@Pop Tart Sauce actually I feel pretty stupid because yeah why would I expect them to actually do research before they report on something.

[@rainkidwell2467]

@@pleaseenteraname1103 prove that the bill cannot be used in the ways we are suggesting it might Literally prove it

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@@rainkidwell2467 read the bill, The bill does not imply that whatsoever.

[@Steve2Carla]

I used to be a child and I've had one male child. When a kid has a question, you answer it. They are actually small people.

[@aaronsande]

OMG JOE IS THE CATCHPHRASE NOT EXACTLY 100% WHAT THE BILL SAYS HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING NAILED IT. GENIUS.

[@notwoke7005]

see but with all sincerity, when Joe said what he said I kind of agreed, and then they mentioned kids with same-sex parents and I immediately changed my mind. Perfectly reasonable people can be mistaken and agree with what Joe said and not because they're right-wing lunatics

[@bob513993]

As someone who absolutely knew I was gay but just didn’t have a word for the concept as early as at least third grade, I wish someone had told me about this shit earlier. It would have saved me a ton of heartache over the course of jr high and high school.

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

In ten years when trans people are accepted (as gay people partially are now) more, Joe’s comments aren’t going to age well at all.

[@richardcraig6572]

Conservatives seem to think gay teachers are like Mr. Garrison on South Park. They have this deranged fear of what is different.

[@leahstone9308]

Frankly, South Park (and the libertarians who make it) hasn’t helped. Can’t imagine there are very many Rogan fans who don’t thoroughly enjoy South Park (preemptive edit - I’ve never said it should “cancelled” or whatever)

[@josiahalcorne]

I remember being a little kid thinking I was heterosexual because that's how I was raised. I was sure I was going to marry a beautiful woman someday like the women on TV. Then puberty hit and I realized that I only thought I was into women as a small child. I then realized that I was now very into women and it wasn't a decision at all. I had a very physical reaction to women that was beyond my control. As far as I can tell homosexuals have that same reaction to men. I doubt it is anymore a choice for them than my attraction to women is a choice for me. I can not force myself to have a physical reaction to men. I assume the same is true for gay men. I'm never really sure about women because as a heterosexual man I'm very aware of how sexualized and fetishized the female body is and suspect that can be learned behavior.

[@SeaMonster-qy9vo]

So you worked it out without a teacher becoming involved?

[@josiahalcorne]

@@SeaMonster-qy9vo Yeah that's what you should take away from what I said. And for the record, my fourth grade teacher was a flaming homosexual and easily one of my two best teachers which says a lot because like most children I was taught by some extraordinary people over the years. I'm against putting obstacles in teachers' way. Homosexuality is a reality. As are all LGBTQ people. Maybe they are born that way, maybe they choose that lifestyle, it's ok either way, we live in a free country. Teachers are like cops and should be able to address issues that come up in their classroom and on the job we're supposed to be able to trust them. They do in fact receive training not just training but updated training throughout their career. They are also subject to massive oversight and receive a fairly steady rate of evaluation on their effectiveness at their job. Kids are going to ask questions. It used to be why isn't so-in-so married? Now it's can two men be married? Trust that the teacher can give an age-appropriate response that works for the context that it's asked in.

[@berlinheights8516]

Seriously sounds like when a toddler asks where do babies come from these hosts would not hold back on any detail at all.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

These teachers are sickos and groomers...

[@joeymorales2565]

rogan in full divorced dad arc. soon enough he's gonna be showing up to schoolboard meetings about crt.

[@tubian323]

Hey DeSantis "Gay Gay Gay!"🤣🤣🤣

[@TheCoz27]

i really don’t know anything about this bill at all. 1st-3rd graders not learning about sexuality seems pretty fair to me. idk i just don’t see either side of the argument

[@joshuashaffer8707]

simply not what's happening.

[@TheCoz27]

@@joshuashaffer8707 ok

[@TheCoz27]

@@joshuashaffer8707 what is what’s happening than? as i’ve stated in my comment i really don’t know anything about this at all

[@EchanteDante]

It makes me so angry because Joe had me duped there for a few months during Trump’s reign….because he starting to be more progressive with his support of gays and started coming around to supporting and understanding trans people and their rights as well. Though not perfect and clearly still had bad takes from time to time like when it came to trans athletes. He was still not a perfect individual and for a meat head caveman brain man he was a lot more open to discussion than most. But all of a sudden Joe somewhere along the way decided after this Spotify deal I’m moving and going FULL grifter. I see how much money can be made….and im going to regress and make so many drastic moves farther and farther back from having real discussions. It makes me SOO soo angry because he tricked me into believing that he was actually somewhat fair at some point. Now he is so far from having any real fair discussions and completely ignores the facts and only goes full force into the conservative talking points. He used to challenge his guests and would bring up many angles to a topic but now it is full on regurgitation of far right talking points.

[@schibleh531]

Do you know what's funny? If there's one thing that he shouldn't fuck up, it's his takes on Trans Athletes. Joe is a huge sports fan, therefore he should, theoretically, be really interested in researching every detail about this subject, and informing people about it. I read this thing somewhere but I can't recall where, but it says that a trans athlete's advantage starts to diminish after being on hormones for a while, and those same athletes vary in levels of performance, and what I mean by that is that they lose and win just like any other woman in their division. They aren't dominating. The media just keeps blowing their victories out of proportion. So maybe instead of bashing trans athletes, he should advocate for waiting periods? Until the hormones do their job and it's a leveled playing field. Or something that doesn't involve outright banning them, or painting them like predators?

[@alexanderernster8582]

I don't think that's accurate, he has gradually become more and more conservative over the past 15 years. He's not swindling people. You can go back 10 years and he was relatively opposed to hunting. Then met hunters and talked to them and now he's all in. He used to believe in a lot of social programs but after a couple of decades watching LAs homeless problem get worse and worse he started to not trust the gov/policies of left wing social programs. He had no problems with the trans community untill Fallon Fox started fighting without disclosing that she was a trans woman (she literally almost killed her opponent and fractured her skull in multiple places). Is Joe becoming very conservative. Yes. Is he a grifter. No. It's very clearly a gradual shift based on his life experience, age, and financial freedom. Doesn't seem like a money making grift to me.

[@ephemer1125]

What they are actually saying Joe is "don't give any child between the grade years of 1 and 3 any idea of what a sexual predator is doing to them is wrong"

[@ephemer1125]

@@wadeanes9832 Yeah but when you look at some republican law makers don't you get "Sex dungeon in basement" vibes from them?

[@user-zu8mr1jx1c]

the guy went on an all-meat diet for like a month until he was shitting black liquid. total joke

[@jessipereyra3163]

Rogan the man spit those facts

[@needmoresnacks]

ALSO it's so ironic that Joe Rogan literally said 'some people like people of the same gender or some people feel like they're in a different gender' is all these kids need to know. It's truly that simple, kids don't need sexual aspects to understand.

[@ThreaT650]

It is being implied by the right and therefore mirrored in Joe's argument here that by simply explaining that there are more than one gender and that same sex couples exist, that it is a lesson sexual in nature. Which is utterly ridiculous. But hence the 'grooming' comment. This has nothing to do with sexuality or teaching kids and everything to do with bigotry and this idea of religion labeling topics and certain people as depraved or evil, ect. This is 100% another theocratic push by the right. Teaching kids about sex at ANY age shouldn't be controversial. But they believe that kids are robbed of some kind of 'innocence' or are being groomed or targeted or whatever simply by discussing procreation or sexual orientations that exist in reality and have existed for centuries among countless cultures.

[@bubblybubbles9052]

Did you know the bill lets teachers tell students, "don't tell your parents we discussed this"... We are talking 5 year olds .... Common...

[@ThreaT650]

@@bubblybubbles9052 in reference to what? lgbtq? Nobody is stopping your kids from telling you anything but my main thing is what exactly are you concerned teachers will do if you do not know? Turn kids gay? I mean come on this is laughable and only bigoted people find logic and an argument in favor of these kinds of bills.

[@dharmadefender3932]

I don't know anything about these bills, so I haven't gotten an opinion on it. What exactly does the bill say?

[@felixG83]

Great analysis