Joe Rogan on Chiropractors

[@jimmyking92]

There is a Joe Rogan video for everything I type in KZbin

[@michaelercolano629]

Was literally thinking the same thing lol

[@michaelercolano629]

Anytime I got a question screw google I just joe rogan it

[@mistermeatcake1785]

joe rogan on hippo porn

[@PrezDub]

My chiropractor is overly caring, he insists on a prostate check each time to ensure that I am healthy.

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

I think hes gay.

[@pedroforonda]

GreedAndSelfishness gay? No way man

[@sankari6114]

@@GreedAndSelfishness I hate to be this guy but r/woosh

[@SomethingCool51]

gotta check the oil, amirite

[@ryanharris9585]

Does he hold you by the shoulders when he checks your prostate?

[@Driv300mph]

Chiropractor fucked my neck up -- didn't have any neck pain, but was no stranger to the routine. All it takes is one bad adjustment to wreak havoc on the most important structure in your body. The guy I went to had 20 years in the business & 5 stars on every platform. Be absolutely certain about who you see if you need treatment.

[@frankjeffries6374]

Yes. its that way with everything.

[@casspower]

Same the only time I had an adjustment he hurt my neck so bad im fearful of chiropractors now.

[@hawaiidispenser]

3:30 I've read that just because you have a bulging disc, it doesn't necessarily mean that's the cause of the pain. Something like half of all people have bugling discs but most report no pain. It's just a part of life, often.

[@Iz0pen]

This was possibly from Dr Sarno a highly credentialed doctor from Columbia U. He said most back problems where psychosomatic and could be fixed by meditating on your subconscience mind to stop causing pain to distract you. There are videos here on KZbin about it. To date it is the craziest thing I believe. In 2004 I broke my back in several spots and the Sarno method dispelled all of my pain when I discovered in around 2013. 20 minutes of reading watching KZbin on it and that was just about the last Iv heard from my back pain. Changed my world and what I thought I believed was possible.

[@crispycruiser4654]

Sarno is a fraud and you’re a victim of his nonsense

[@frankjeffries6374]

And D.C.s often help with disc problems. and if they don't help eventually( after 3-6 months of chiropractic care for long sanding problems) they should be moved to surgery.

[@RedSpiralHandTV]

I was injured pretty bad by a chiro...was adjusting my lower back/hip after I'd messed it up after walking around on a leg cast for a month. My foot went numb after the session with him and a literally dragged my foot for a few months. Got an MRI and it showed a little piece broke off of my cartilage near a vertebrae from that manipulation. I remember the chiro did the Palmer method and he kind of forced my bent legs up towards my body with all his weight behind it and I heard something go "pop" but it did not sound good. Took a while but healed from that but no more chiropractors for me!

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

Damn

[@ItsRlyAntonio]

did u sue

[@ShadowsK.Y]

and then redspiralhand was never heard from again

[@nightrider2k6]

you went to the wrong chiro, go see Dr. Rahim or a gonstead chiro.

[@Knight_Jon_Artorias]

​@@ShadowsK.Y sounds more like he was redspinal after that adjustment

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

I had a chiropractor once tell me that based on just looking at me, he "doubted" my MRI results were accurate. That, combined with knowing that people have been killed by getting adjustments and that in studies it's the same relief as getting a massage, I'll just get the massage.

[@metorphoric]

LOL! That’s insane!! They can’t even order MRIs! My mom is a Family Nurse Practitioner at a clinic and she has this one colleague who is a chiropractor who constantly ask her to order MRIs for him. He answer is no and they the patient needs to see a Orthopedic Specialist. One time, the chiro asked her to order an MRI on a patient with bone cancer. I couldn’t believe it.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

@@metorphoric be proud you have a mom with integrity!!

[@chiefcrazyhorse]

Registered Massage Therapist are great for loosening muscles, aid in healing and reducing pain in a relatively short amount of time. I never had a masseuse promise me miraculous healing from the treatments. Chiropractors are great for dragging out treatments in order to squeeze as much money out of clients and their health care providers. They should all be run out of town

[@dxprfgfy-wk5pr]

prove it.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

@@dxprfgfy-wk5pr yeah, because I had a camera with me 🙄

[@trevtkd]

That's not what sciatica is. Sciatica is just an irritation of the sciatic nerve. That could be from any number of reasons including a herniated disc not solely because of one.

[@kroflet]

trevtkd I usually laugh when it comes to Joe and medicine, but this time he's right, in more than 90% sciatica is due to disc herniation.

[@trevtkd]

+Yo lo not necessarily. The term doesn't denote the root cause. Only what is irritated, the sciatic nerve. And if you are going to claim percentages please provide your source.

[@kroflet]

trevtkd my medical neurology book.

[@trevtkd]

+Yo lo I can appreciate that. Provide the citation. I'm a Doctor of physical therapy and I treat sciatica on a daily basis. The majority of the time it's due to tight and unbalanced musculature and/or a pelvic obliquity. Can it be from a disc? Absolutely. All I'm saying is the term sciatica does not denote the cause.

[@trevtkd]

+Yo lo it's just never good practice to make a blanket statement like he did (and I love Joe rogan). Stating that sciatica is caused by a herniated disc (bulge, sequestered, etc) is misleading and incomplete. Sciatica CAN be caused by intervertebral disc bulge not is. Make sense?

[@ManOfEthnicity]

Doesn't believe in chiropractors, owns a neck cranking rig.

[@edit11]

yeah to feel good

[@LunaGer]

Totally different. It’s traction to relieve the pressure on the discs, not a lateral adjustment.

[@mlking213]

Wouldn’t a “good “ chiropractor do both

[@MrJimmy3459]

LunaGer - its called spinal decompression, and MANY chiropractors do it. Joe is a moron.......

[@iamdenislara]

It just feels good, like a massage. There is not “adjustment” to it. LOL

[@muzza191282]

This is about the only sensible discussion I’ve seen in Chiro. Comment prior stands, most people I know that have had it say it’s caused further issues.

[@TheGlutn]

My uncle is a carpenter. He fell off a ladder and fucked his back up and couldnt walk right. He went to a chiropractor and the guy did a maneuver and popped his back from the bottom to the top. He said it sounded like a zipper. Afterwards, he said the pain instantly vanished and he has been walking fine ever since....and that was 15 years ago.

[@michaelroy7093]

sorry for the loss.

[@taylor111825]

sorry for the loss? he never said he died lol

[@bigj2105]

Michael Roy I’m about to piss myself this made me laugh so hard 😂😂

[@MidgardSerpent]

My uncle is also a carpenter, almost the same thing happened to him and he also went to a chiropractor. My uncle ded now.

[@CaptainTae]

And the whole bus clapped

[@small_ed]

ALWAYS see a qualified M.D. FIRST to evaluate a chronic pain condition. I wasted money on chiropractic care for over 2 years to accomplish nothing. My problems were resolved by orthopedic physicians and physical therapy.

[@rodl6759]

You got surgery?

[@TrashDaddy1]

@@rodl6759 most times you don’t really need surgery unless somethings actually broken broken For the most part everything can be kinda popped back, held together, and then trained to full health

[@rodl6759]

@@TrashDaddy1 thank you bro.. i needed this

[@neobliviscarisa650]

this is the US problem, not in the UK. Physios learn from osteopaths in outpatient skills, as we specialise in this as primary health care. I have worked with physio, chiro and osteopaths. They share many skills in outpatient stuff, as physios also undertake hospital rotations, in neurological disorders; respiratory etc... IN the UK, Chiro are qualified in X-rays techniques; and study the same stuff as Junior Drs - histology, embryology, anatomy (to a higher level); physiology; pathophysiology; nutrition; biomechanics and 1000 hrs of clinical practice before being chartered

[@davidballard6443]

@@neobliviscarisa650 that sounds like my experience in chiropractic college in the USA. We got exactly as much training as MDs, but all specialty training was in adjusting, palpating, PT modalities, and exercise therapy. I think the biggest problem of what makes chiropractors in the US bad is how insurance companies treat us. We're lucky to take in half of what we bill out. So you have to turn out higher volume and deliver half the quality of care and time to your patients to make a living. But, at the same time we're EXPECTED to deliver the highest quality care and full amount of time when we often watch our clinics fail.

[@quadrant2012]

A chiro literally gave me my neck use back after years of agonising locked non movement. I do agree that some are just cracking necks for money however, from what I've experienced. But Chiro can be life changing, and has been for me

[@str8todamoney]

jamie morrison A chiropractor with knowledge in physical therapy. It makes more sense to go to an actual physical therapist than to go to some fraud that also knows some shit.

[@vulcayy2151]

White Ice Tv placebo can only fix so much

[@chrisdambrosia5461]

str8todamoney ur dumb as shit

[@setnomA]

@@chrisdambrosia5461 no you are.... Bitch

[@chrisdambrosia5461]

Guy Andy piss off pussy

[@wesleysullivan8047]

Joe get a chiropractor on the show

[@richmay3929]

Yes! Find Dan McClure -- he'd be a great personality match!

[@Profile.4]

He won't because he's a fraud

[@isaklevy743]

@@Profile.4 or a real spinal surgeon so we know who the real fraud is fkn snake oil salesmen

[@alyssasantos1875]

BEAU HIGHTOWER

[@katherine101able]

Why it is a scam when you crack your joints is the air leaving the joints and nothing else

[@abrahamcastillo6299]

I went to a chiropractor and he said my feet were misaligned, one leg was slightly longer than the other. He said I would have to buy a foot support and that with treatment would be a couple thousand dollars with discount.... I obviously didn't do it, but then I see a KZbin video of a chiropractor saying the same thing to a woman, then supposedly pops her leg sideways then says "you're all better now"... can't trust these ppl

[@princesszeldaprincess447]

Why not just spend the 1000 $$$ to not be in pain it's better to spend a little bit of money on pain relief than walk sideways forever

[@noctisocculta4820]

If one leg was slightly longer, you could just replace one of the insoles of your shoes with a thicker one.

[@xxrngxx5]

Hahahah Chiro tried to sell me on this as well. Have a disdain for them ever since.

[@adamdodds144]

@@princesszeldaprincess447it’s all a scam that’s why…

[@TheBBallEnthusiast]

From my experience, I'm with Joe. I've had a couple bulging discs and 2 stints with sciatica. During my first stint, my doctor (who is a back specialist) simply injected me with cortisone injections and I was 100% pain free after 3 injections over a 1.5 month period During my 2nd stint of sciatica, I decided to try a chiropractor and after 3 months of seeing them (3 times a week), I saw zero improvement. When I go to see my back specialist, he tells me that chiropractic is just temporary relief. I can also tell that he was being careful not to disregard another medical professional out of respect, but I knew he just didn't believe in chiropractors

[@christiansoto9755]

chiropractors are not medical professionals

[@user-mv2qq6lp2u]

Chiropractors are not medical professionals

[@davidballard6443]

too many cortisone injections weakens your bones

[@jimj2683]

Chiropractors are scammers. But we also have to remember how bad medical docors were 200 years ago.... That profession also started as a scam, but gradually gained credibility for mostly doing stuff that actually works. Chiropractors seem to go through the same transition, but are still far from being good.

[@dH-pq5pn]

A 2017 study reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) is a case in point. It followed the outcomes of knee arthritis patients who received repeated injections over two years -- with either corticosteroids or a placebo (saline). Patients given steroids typically saw no pain relief, and instead showed a faster progression of cartilage breakdown in the knee joint. So the new findings "build on a body of evidence," said Dr. Natalie Azar, a clinical assistant professor of rheumatology at NYU Langone Health, in New York City.

[@jimboniusmaximus6018]

There is a reason why chiropractors don't work in hospitals and operate independently. Cannot tell you how many patients I've seen present to the ED every year after having a "adjustment" by their chiropracter and end up needing surgery, or end up with a serious disc derangement.

[@inquisitor4635]

Chiropractors do work in hospitals in Canada.

[@rajjhellskitchen602]

Actually they do work in hospitals and even in integrative settings with medical doctors and physical therapists.

[@ikekhan3299]

​@@inquisitor4635no they do not. Maybe in some niche capacity at specific hospitals. But they do not provide any routine care to patients.

[@frankjeffries6374]

Go get a covid booster.

[@frankjeffries6374]

You are a not so smart human.

[@captainchau]

I don't agree with Joe on everything he says or believes but on this particular point, I'm with him. Chiros should be helping with an overall recovery regime along with physical rehab and other treatments. Never as your one and only source of treatment. I had a great Chiro to start he even told me that I shouldn't see him too much and I should practice more preventative care.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

That's exactly how I practice. Rogan is very close to being sued by the ACA.

[@tomrotelli1355]

@@JohnPandolfo121 I have all of these issues with my neck and my chiropractor incorporates other therapies. I have gotten better, but my problem is my job always puts too much stress on my neck and shoulders. I go once a month and without those visits I don't think I could do this job.

[@adamdodds144]

No they have zero place in the medical field. It’s a scam you know it is and yet are still dumb enough to give the people your money.

[@fredo3106]

Chiropractors are full of shit. I had a chiropractor that said I neeeeeded to come in 3X's a week to get adjusted. Spoke to a Orthopedic surgeon and he said all chiropractors want to do is get you in as much as possible to charge your insurance company $$$

[@garbo7779]

My Chiro saved my lower back . No doctor, no physical therapist. Just chiropractor. He gave great advice on things to do or not do while recovering and receiving treatment and lost treatment once it got better. Never once took medication or saw a doctor and it’s been 7 years pain free

[@HyperhyperPsyCrow]

whats the name of this device for the neck, I want one

[@Floppytots]

Dang 6 long years and no answer.

[@MightyGachiman]

Don't

[@HipHopAn0n]

I have a great chiropractor right now, but have had some bad experiences too. Only the best are worth paying for, but they are worth every penny!

[@adamdodds144]

They love guileless idiots like you.

[@grace52775]

I had a pelvic and coccyx injury after giving birth. Walking and sitting caused severe pain, and I couldn't use stairs. I went to a pelvic floor physical therapist and an orthopedic doctor for three years with little results. After ONE session with a chiropractic at the suggestion of a friend, I felt better than I had in years. After three months, I felt 80% better.

[@jpizzleforizzle]

I've had a good experience with a physician who was also an osteopath. I had 2 bulging discs, and severe sciatica for about a year in total. without his adjustments/manipulations I think I would have been fucked.

[@frankjeffries6374]

THANK YOU,THE CHIROPRACTIC ADJUSTMENTS WORK!

[@nolanmendoza3643]

I think just like in any other profession.. There are good chiropractors and bad chiropractors. You can look up dr Ian chiropractor on KZbin and that guy has done some amazing shit

[@cryptidian3530]

My thought exactly. He went to one chiropractor, had a bad experience and decided he doesn't believe in them at all. You can KZbin search chriopractor adjustments and see how it greatly improves people's health in the video itself. So him giving up on them that easily is a bit disappointing.

[@Ookkii]

I'm a physical therapy student from The Netherlands. I can tell you half the shit those fucks do is bullshit. The people who have done the specialisation manual therapy have had a ban by law on some techniques, but after the union got into it they found out that the only ones who had done it wrong and damaged people for life were chiroprators who used those techniques. Half the cracks you hear and feel when your body gets manipulated like that isn't something that's wrong. You can make a cracking sound with your knuckles but it doesn't mean your fingers were stuck. They say shit like i'm going to straighten your spine, when actually there would be no health issue at all. Pulling and pushing the spine "straight" as if that is something you can do, to have it go "crooked" again the first time you stand on your 2 feet and pull weight on your spine. Your body isn't meant to be perfectly straight and if it's not a problem for you then it's not a health issue at all. And in actual cases with patients these guys only fight symptoms but not the source. If you have a backproblem you think the chiropractor is going to fix for you, you will end up going once a week till your dead. And for those that see it as relaxing and it helps in that way, fine.

[@adamdodds144]

@@cryptidian3530google the medical research done. It’s literally does absolutely nothing for your health or to treat pain. There is no such thing as a good chiro. They are all frauds and scam artists.

[@yakuzzi35]

I get really bad migraines from bad posture and muscle spasms. My chiropractor experiences have been mostly positive and helped with my migraines without having to takr pain meds but I live in a country where chiropractics is highly regulated

[@davidballard6443]

good to hear! FYI, if you have a headache that responds to treatment of the neck, it's a cervicogenic tension type headache. "Migraines" are chemically mediated headaches specifically.

[@yakuzzi35]

@@davidballard6443 Oh good to know, the word they used was "cluster headaches", but I just said migraine for ease of communication. Does a "cluster headache" also count as a cervicogenic tension type headache?

[@davidballard6443]

@@yakuzzi35 no, those are the bad bad kind. A subtype of migraines, sometimes chemically induced, sometimes due to trauma or chronic stress or illness. Most cluster headache sufferers are veterans. They're often dubbed "suicide headaches" because they're awful, frequent, and make you want to(and sometimes attempt to) kill yourself. Not to say that they can't compound with cervical pain, but you should be medicated for those. The only natural remedy I know of is moderate to high dose melatonin for cluster headaches. And definitely mood stabilizers and psychotherapy because it's very depressing.

[@adamdodds144]

@@yakuzzi35No everything that dude said is complete bullshit lol. Stop giving them your money. Adjusting your neck does not cure anything. Take a placebo pill and it will have the same exact results.

[@dewmonstermash]

Dr Ian needs to come on the show then!

[@dH-pq5pn]

I met Trent Dilfer The Super Bowl winning quarterback of the Baltimore ravens At the Celebrity Golf Classic up in Lake Tahoe many years ago. When he was passing by one of the holes, I asked him if he still gets chiropractic care. His the answer to me was “I would be dead without it.”

[@jellei88i92]

I have a S shaped spine and have had backproblems since i was 14, after long times of problems im visiting the chiropraktor every 6 weeks now instead of when having pain. I havent got serious pain since 2018.

[@Mnfilmmaker1]

I dealt with a pinched nerve in my lower back for weeks. I went 3 days a week for a month. I never dealt with the pain again.

[@blackjackomfg]

chiropractors aren't full of shit I had a pinched nerve in my back that caused my ribs to hurt and when I got adjusted the pain went away instantly.

[@platinumgsc4129]

B1ackjack yeah joe is so full of shit you can smell it

[@DrippUP]

anecdotal evidence my guy

[@blackjackomfg]

@@DrippUP 7 years later you're cringe

[@DrippUP]

@@blackjackomfg saying cringe is for fags. use your big man words.

[@renecordova4909]

@@blackjackomfg7 years later how you doing after that chiropractic visit? Just found out I have scoliosis and arthritis and I’m about to make my first appointment.

[@jorgecabrera3315]

I love you Joe but I disagree with you. I have a herniated disc and pain was so bad that I could not get out of bed. I suffered for 2 years. Chiro helped me get better and since then I have been 5 years pain free. When I went to an orthopedic surgeon he wanted to do surgery and I decided to do chiro and physical therapy instead. I'm glad I did.

[@adamdodds144]

Buddy chrio did nothing. It was only the PT. There is extensive studies and they all say the same thing. Chrio is snake oil. It’s healing magnets, etc. you got scammed.

[@frankjeffries6374]

THANK YOU.

[@JimmyJaxJellyStax]

I found proper PT style weight lifting and bands super helpful for solving disc and pain problems. Also using a back wheel, lacrosse peanut massager, foam roller, etc.

[@willsoul007]

My chiro has sorted out decades of pain. My old chap saw a doctor about a pain in his lower back and leg… he had an op to remove loads of arthritis in his spine… pain continued… doc did some more tests and scans… didn’t know what was causing it and suggested fusing his spine. Saw my chiro and it sorted it after 2 weeks.

[@teddibear1850]

On 4-5-24 my husband had a chiropractor adjustment. She also massaged his neck. 4-6 neck pain. Continued that whole week. End of week fever started. Rapid heart rate. Went to urgent care. Inflammation in ventricals of brain C-reactive protein 28. Admitted to hospital. Tachycardia. Fever. Tons of tests. No diagnosis after seeing neurology, rheumatologist, infectious disease doc. Slowly getting better. WAS it due to chiropractor? Starting to wonder.

[@frankjeffries6374]

Got to blame someone.... might as well blame the only competent people close to challenging the medical pharmaceutical industrial complex......like TRUMP....BLAME BLAME BLAME....

[@DrippUP]

@@frankjeffries6374 why was trumps name even mentioned? do yall just find any excuse to bring that name up lol? thats odd behavior. however - chiro is a pseudo-science and its has resulted in death for people. i read a story of a porn star that went to the chiro and they tore the arteries in her neck apparently and killed her..and im sure shes not the only one that happened to. its very dangerous and whatthat person above went through 100% could be the result of malpractice. your body is not meant to be suddenly jerked and twisted and snap crackle popped.

[@wesleywilliams4808]

Chiro's intentionally divert people from getting mri so they can bilk you for cash for as long as they can. They all say wait for months to get mri so they can lie and steal.

[@AC-pu2eh]

Wesley Williams not true. MRI is expensive. Most of the time they will have you wait since it really doesn’t change the treatment plan at all. If you have a bulged disc, the treatment option is still the same. Chiropractic, PT, drugs or surgery. Which would you want? And is it completely necessary to jump right into a $1000+ MRI so soon? NO

[@frankjeffries6374]

This is crap. who pays the $4000 for the MRI.. not you... which leads to another 20-30K to make the M.D.s. Most discs problems resolve with regular adjustments.

[@FP5Gaming]

At The Joint Chiropractic, you really feel rushed and more as a customer that they're trying to get out the door quick because they have more people in line behind you (the lobby)

[@reactivatechiropracticrehab]

Yah, the joint is not about individualized care or proper diagnosis. They are the McDonalds of physical medicine. Go to a low volume clinic. Stay away from Docs who see 30+ patients a day.

[@frankjeffries6374]

STAY AWAY FROM THE FRANCHISE OUTFITS like this ....they are like ASPEN DENTAL..... ETC.

[@shellohween]

Could not agree more with this. I hurt my back at work and ended up going to see a Chiropractor after my doctor basically just wanted to give me pain killers. The pain was crazy, worst thing I ever went through. Chiro kept telling me I did not have a herniated/ bulging disc determined by his X-rays and generally examining me but my pain was due to subluxations🙄 Wanted me to go through weeks of very expensive sessions which were not working. I finally could not take the pain went to a different doctor and had an MRI done which showed I did in fact have 2 bulging discs! Got physical therapy and a nerve pain medication ,not an opioid, from my new GP Finally got better through physical therapy and now take care of my back with exercise. I am also someone who believes in natural medicines and homeopath healing hence why’d I tried a Chiropractor to begin with. A Chiro is NOT a Dr and should not be giving medical advice. I went through endless weeks of pain for no reason.

[@johnnyrodriguez276]

Chiropractors just want your money and put you on a 20 session 3x a week plan they'll say they can fix you up I went to various chiros here already im just doing Mckenzie exercises and all types injections for now until I can't no more I was thinking of doing PRP injections but afraid pain will be same or worse that injection is painful and expensive

[@averageguy1261]

Yeah, not a Dr.

[@ryan62011]

As a Dr this is what really angers me, You will see Chiropractors calling themselves Doctors and they have NO Medical qualification The Dr title is an honorary title only when it comes to chiropractors, they never seem to mention this and it's misleading and dangerous, they are NOT trained to read X-Rays or anything of the sort so to give Medical advice off of an X-Ray your not qualified to read or diagnose is a fast way to seriously hurt someone or kill them.

[@EastSidePeepShow]

Happy with my chiropractor. Helped with pinched nerve and kept me from undergoing surgery. We'll see if it's a long term fix, but currently able to play softball 3 times per week.

[@cmonn0w]

he will not believe you. he's gonna call you a liar liar pants on fire.

[@RobinMasters-zx1uo]

Spine pain can be anatomic, systemic, structural, mechanical, or multifactorial. Chiropractic can fix mechanical, aid in the management of the structural, and the anatomic and systemic likely lay outside of the scope of efficacy. It is all-about whether the doctor, and I don't care if they are DC, MD, DO, DPT, Spine Fellow, Sub-specialist, or whatever, whether the doctor diagnoses the patient properly, and matches the treatment to the diagnosis, or whether they try to match the patient to the treatment, regardless of diagnosis. Doctors who put the cart before the horse are substandard, regardless of the training and letters after their name.

[@reactivatechiropracticrehab]

Here Here!

[@stephaniemayfield7020]

Should have seen a Physical Therapist 😉

[@skylerkelly597]

Cracking your back just to have a muscular imbalance pull you back out of alignment is worse than not seeing a chiropractor to begin with.

[@greenpowerranger1546]

Who would like to see a chiropractor on the show? Dr Heidi haavik would be an excellent guest. She has a Master's degree in Chiropractic, research, neuroscience and has a phd! Please tweet at Joe to get the word out!

[@Phicxtion]

get a chiropractor on the show joe...lets settle this.

[@MikeRepluk]

he won't do that, after all a knowledgable chiro will certainly have many valid points

[@noctisocculta4820]

Why not an actual medical professional, or scientist? This is a medical and scientific claim, right?

[@adamdodds144]

@@MikeReplukno they won’t. There is no medical benefits. It is also very dangerous. Independent studies have been done. It’s just a placebo and nothing more. Chros are particularly sneaky by adding in some stretching and massages which actually have some benefits and will give you temporary relief to give the illusion that they bullshit adjustments do anything. Fact is it’s all been debunked many times over. It’s snake oil.

[@totthocoka]

There's different level of Chiropractic methods for health care, there's the basics for regular maintenance and there's the Gonstead Method that uses multiple criteria to deliver and release nerve pressure with accuracy. And this is not only done by gonstead chiropractor but, applied kinesiology and some osteopath all of them are doing great work to improve health care. However if you want to stay in the this is BS by one experience and come on you have internet now do your homework to find the best base on your condition there's even visceral manipulation that works super good the organs condition, but the treatment suggests is base on patient needs just hear the body out and it will tell us what it need.

[@frankjeffries6374]

Thank You!!!

[@macmcgowan2536]

Ironically everything Joe is saying & doing is basically what I do in my CHIRO/Rehab practice. He's performing traction (decompression of the spine) when he's hanging from the door, he rotates his head and causes releases within his spine (adjustment), he is strengthening his paraspinal muscles and core, eats a super clean (paleo) diet, utilizes the modalities like cold laser, uses stretching and myofasical release and makes a point to sit strait and pays attention to his posture. ..... well. That's pretty much what it takes to be healthy. But, most of the public can take the 2-3 hours a day he takes to train, stretch, etc. So seeing a qualified intelligent chiropractor is a easy way to get all this knowledge in one place. Not a antiquated doc, but someone who is taking the time to add layers to the treatment and address patients with a personal approach. Not a cookie cutter flying 7 adjustment. I would like to apologize to Joe for having to deal with a moron doc for a year. There's good and bad in every profession and unfortunately he has seen only the bad in mine.

[@dukeljk2191]

Chiropractors are not Doctors lol.

[@brian2090]

Lol right, all those chiros cooking paleo meals and supervising abdominal exercises are really doing good work for their customers. I think you’ve confused chiropractors with physical therapists.

[@BigEvan96]

You guys should check out Robin A Mackenzies book, treat your back. He's the guy who invented the techniques some physical therapists use to treat herniated discs, disc pain, etc. It's an incredibly eye opening read for people who suffer from lower back pain brought on by bulging discs, re-bulging discs, herniated discs, etc. It's not just eye opening, for me it was somewhat life-changing.

[@davidballard6443]

i was directly trained in mckenzie protocol for low back and neck pain in chiropractic college and i use it extensively in practice and on myself.

[@BigEvan96]

@@davidballard6443 Awesome. I was considering getting McKenzie certified.

[@davidballard6443]

@@BigEvan96 super worth it. You can get a patient lined out on a custom McKenzie plan in minutes and take their pain down 50-90% in a single visit. Then they have an excellent self treatment tool for the remainder of their treatment plan, and the rest of their lives!

[@BigEvan96]

@@davidballard6443 For real. My goal would be to never see my patients again. As messed up as that sounds.

[@melissalomax2490]

That Chiro should have ordered an MRI and gotten an X-ray, done a full medical work up. Sorry you experienced that Chiropractor. There are others that are really good and truly help people.

[@adamdodds144]

No they don’t. It’s not debatable every single major scientific study has had the same result. It’s a placebo. It does nothing. There are no good scam artist.

[@katherine101able]

Nothing more than a good massage

[@FesteringRatSub]

Where is the full version of this, how did joe get rid of the disk bulge?

[@Ilyas_moos]

Fuck bro I felt this, I’ve been going to the same Chiro guy for a year now for the same damn issue..

[@wasssup7573]

From the stories I’ve heard (friends who’ve been to them) it feels good once they treat you but it’s short term and you need to come back, so it’s not really a long term solution imho, better to get advice from a few people in different areas and then make up yourself what’s bs and what’s not.

[@novakanedj1]

Chiropractor fucked my neck up and 18 months later I'm still trying to recover. I've felt close to recovered a few times but I end up relapsing

[@MrC-55]

I’ve been adjusted and feel great.

[@DugeHick]

You cant adjust your body, you're not a carburetor. Why do you think you keep coming back for "readjustment"? You need therapy, go to specialist.

[@thesaltyspittoon6867]

Getting popped or cracked by a chiro is great, really relieves tension and pain. But I wouldn’t hire one to diagnose the problem. One of the told my mum just to stretch and after weeks of continuing pain turns out she had a disk problem he misdiagnosed

[@JakeFromStateFarm-xj2kv]

I’m 25. I’m active. I just started get back pain about 6 months ago and I can’t manage anymore. I have been lifting way less and playing basketball more lately. Still getting worse. I’ve used an inversion table and it gives temporary relief. Tens units help as well. But I need an MRI and I’d like to know how Joe got his back fixed. I will never start using drugs. I’ve seen loved ones destroyed by Opioids.

[@346sammy]

he got a special stem cell treatment, also kobe bryant got it aswell

[@tientrinh943]

So how did you do it?

[@brandonbf]

Good chiropractors are hard to find. When living in Georgia, I was referred to one who worked with the professional hockey and football teams there, in addition to USA Track & Field. He was incredible and possibly was the biggest thing I missed when I moved away. I learned that the school he went to was a big factor in why I liked him so much, and why he had so many satisfied athletic clients. I can't speak about the entire profession, but I haven't personally had positive experiences with anyone from another chiropractic school.

[@exilium007]

What School was that?

[@VCthaGOATdunker]

@@exilium007 The school of hard knocks, bro.

[@H1N1777]

Was it Life University in Georgia?

[@abdrnasr]

I love the precise percentage 98%.

[@johnbostick9265]

My story reflects Rogan's. I had a herniated disk is my L1. It is malpractice for a chiropractor to tell someone that they can "fix" an injury that they know requires surgery. It is like a chiropractor claiming that they can fix a broken femur. Sciatica can be debilitating buth physically and mentally, something that should be taken very seriously and it is frustrating when someone that you trust convinces you that they are able to "adjust" the pain away because that shit is not going to happen. Surgeons disagree as well and will tell you that chiropractors can cause more damage to injuries. Horseshit is right. They should be put in the same box as acupuncture and other eastern medicines that are gimmicky and with no merit.

[@ichewtoast111]

I’ve been to 18 different chiropractors, it’s very hit or miss but they do help if you live a very active lifestyle. Once insurance gets involved with anything it just becomes about money.

[@jcruisioso5975]

I , my Mom, and brother have been greatly helped by chiropractor s. I have friends and a 1st cousin that had back surgery. Once you've had a surgery it appears that you will have more and more . At least from the people I know. The back must be a delicate machine. Please use surgery as a very last resort , when it comes to your back.

[@adamdodds144]

@@jcruisioso5975your whole family is guile idiots

[@giannisgiannopoulos2766]

I torn my acl 1 year ago and I did the surgery 6 December because a doctor and a physiotherapist told that I am fine your knee is stable and then I took mri and showed that I have a torn acl I spend almost a year doing physical therapy for nothing acl sucks

[@boscoblack]

That's an over the door cervical traction unit for home use treatment of bulging disc/nerve compression

[@InnateWhisper]

I don't blame Joe. As a Chiropractor myself, I would be equally pissed if another Chiropractor didn't do his due diligence to identify a disc bulge in my spine. In my experience, they're pretty easy to identify even before sending out a patient for an MRI. Unfortunately he went to a bad chiropractor. When I talk to people who have a negative opinion on Chiropractic, it only takes a few seconds to understand that they know nothing about what it is or what we do. In all fairness, my profession has to step up our education to the public.

[@greenpowerranger1546]

There's randomised controlled trials that show that chiropractic is effective bro.

[@Thedudeabides803]

The randomized trials show placebo and chiropractor had the same results. Mind is a powerful thing, especially when it comes to confirmation bias.

[@greenpowerranger1546]

Thats incorrect. read this paper www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23026869

[@LilHulk17]

Thedudeabides803 , I don't know what studies u read but that's absolutely incorrect.

[@DAUPHIN708]

Sure he had a bad experience. He should be ticked at the chiropractor he saw and not the generalize the entire profession. What if he had had a great experience like 98% of people who see chiropractors? Would all be fine in Joe's world toward the profession then? Don't rationalize his poor behavior.

[@samt.2081]

Get Dr. Beau on.

[@gil5111]

I want Joe Rogan to review that one guy that does Ring Dingers. Dr. Gregory Johnson on KZbin. Someone make it happen.

[@devinpledger8160]

ya that con artist gregory would be a fun interview

[@nrg6245]

Dante Jamarcus you sound butt hurt. He actually helps people.

[@ENigma-um8zw]

This guy watches ChiroAdjustment Vids on the Tube! “..See, you’re still Kickin’ ..!”

[@abbasheydaridc6764]

When I was in chiropractic school over 20 years ago, I had 60 students in my class, but I only trusted 5 of them, because the other 55 were there to get a degree and be called doctors. They did not understand what chiropractic is all about. Chiropractic is about removing interference and allowing the body to heal itself. I have had very interesting cases before which were fixed in one or two visits. The cases ranged from a kid who was passing out 4-5 times a day, a lady with a swollen hand which looked like a balloon, women having bladder problems after delivering their babies, gall bladder issues, and someone with a massive lower back disc herniation who was fixed after 2 visits, and has sent me many referrals over the years. Chiropractic in not BS, some chiropractors, like any other professionals are not good at it.

[@MrPartch]

then why can't the controlled clinical studies prove it is an effective set of treatments? chiropractic is a pseudoscience that's been on since the end of 19th century. it's a pretty damn long time for chiro people to provide the evidence that it really works, don't you think? my guess is that, the effects are psychological. it's like prayer, you know. it works on people who -subconsciously- believe in it

[@650tonyd]

It is bullshit! The origin and the person who founded it is all QUACKERY

[@danielvarughese5947]

Never forget the first chiro was a “magnetic healer”. They’re all a crock of shit

[@jomoody8694]

I feel like these chiro horror stories are from people who go to any chiro clinic they see on the street. There are chiropractors which start their clinical work straight after graduating uni or college and there are ones which never stop studying and improving the fine line that is bodily care. Go to the latter and you won't be disappointed or injured.

[@UPRISING144K]

Has anyone tried the neck device he spoke of? And does anyone know the name Of the product ?

[@danielramos6893]

Exactly what doctors want to hear! I had a dislocation at T6. I lived with it for 7 months before I went to a chiropractor. Before my eventual visit to the chiropractor, I visited an MD. At the end of that visit, you guessed it, he sent me home with muscle relaxers, and pain killers, cuz, you know....treating the symptoms. I eventually called the chiropractor who told me, over the phone, what my problem most-likely was. He spent the next three years seeing me on a much needed regular basis. After that, I spent three more years going when needed. Today, with the exception of a thoracic nerve that acts up occasionally (that my chiropractor originally said would take a long time to heal) I'm back to normal. I went from not being able to do any type of exercise, to being back to lifting weights, and doing BJJ. And an equally important point: I had visited two chiropractors. The first didn't help me at all. The second ( Dr. Todd Antovich in Sacramento, CA, for those that may be interested), fixed me. I started going in 2007. Although I should probably go back for occasional adjustments, I haven't NEEDED to go in about 4 years. Not horse-shit, Joe. You simply went to a guy who didn't know what he was doing. Considering what my symptoms were, it's a shame the MD would've rather put me on a regimen of pill-popping, rather than suggesting an actual cure. On a final note: I was sixteen when I first visited a chiropractor. I had a locked sacrum (the triangular bone at the base of your spine) caused by accidentally arching my back during a squat workout. That was fixed too. You definitely had a bad experience with a dude who didn't know what he was doing, but chiropractic care definitely isn't horse-shit.

[@dizzzave357]

You went to a chiropractor for 3 years and he didn't fully fix your problems. You don't see how that's a problem?

[@cryptidian3530]

@@dizzzave357 Some problems can't be fixed in weeks. Some issues take months or years to fully fix and different bodies have different healing rates, not everyone is the same.

[@InfernalBl4dez]

@@cryptidian3530 And some cant be solved with chiropractic techniques because they're pure quackery that a physio would do 100x better

[@hafliigisli1678]

How did you fix your spinal injuries????????

[@sankari6114]

My experience with chiropractors has been only positive so far, when I was in 5th grade my neck was constantly hurting so I had to violently shake it every few seconds to stop the pain. One visit to a chiropractor, he cracked my neck so loud I was shocked. All the pain went away and never came back

[@cb7235]

Chiropractic is quackery

[@Jwaukechon]

Your experience is bullshit.

[@UniversalMysticsOfChrist]

Same here! I don't really compare them but if I had to, I'd say I've never had a bad experience with a chiropractor but I've had bad experiences with MD's. I still go though. LOL!

[@jcruisioso5975]

​@@UniversalMysticsOfChristwhat choice do we have? MD s run good to lousy as well.

[@johnniecameron8829]

I agree your furniture can be a problem,,,car seats and pillows can be some of the problem

[@corynadermann2479]

where can I get that neck thing mentioned in the beginning of the video

[@MightyGachiman]

Don't. Go to an ortopedic surgeon.

[@ShootEmUpStar]

I Shadow chiropractors almost every day, the specific ones I Shadow are extremely skilled in their professions and work toward preventative measures to actually help patients, however I cannot say the same for all the other ones.

[@mohammedghuraibawi]

Truly not fair putting a whole entire profession like chiropractic down because you had a bad experience. Truly shame .

[@jeffhund8968]

Both of my parents are Chiropractors and they've done a lot of significant work on me for the past 22 years. I can definitely say that Joe Rogan's Chiropractor is full of shit. Not all Chiropractors are full of shit though.

[@frankjeffries6374]

THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! He is a surgical candidate...had his head hit too many times. Go smoke some dope Joe.

[@alterbridgefan99]

I'm a massage therapist and don't believe in chiropractors either. One of my favorite clients got SO MUCH WORSE with her chiropractor who wanted to see her 3x a week for over a year

[@peterfslife]

I think the Chiropractic business is dangerous when it's in the wrong hands, and I believe fewer people should be going to chiropractors, because of the risks. Let me tell you my story. I'm 32 years old, with a slew of medical conditions, I'm connected to a ventilator, have a feeding tube, am legally blind, and my Chiropractor has a Hyperbaric Chamber that I believe would help many of my conditions. My Chiropractor and his staff refuse to put me in it because they think that I'm mentally retarded too, just because I have all these physical illnesses, they think that It's not safe to put me in it. I'm not mentally retarded by the smallest bit, and many psychiatrists, Medical Drs. and Neurologists have stated that. I have a high IQ as was seen on an IQ test, and I've had multiple IQ tests, and still the Chiropractor is discriminating because I'm blind, and have many other health conditions. So, I'm finding another Chiropractor that won't do that. This Chiropractor is a QUACK! He comes in, adjusts my neck, and then leaves. No Physical Examination was ever done when I first went to him years ago, and while what he does feels great, He simply does not understand that people who have multiple Co-medical problems can receive benefit from a Hyperbaric Chamber. So I'm going to find someone else!

[@RGTomoenage11]

Joe is ok with hanging off his neck but not chiropractic care lol.

[@frankjeffries6374]

Thank you!!!!

[@jtf2413]

what is the name of the device you were using in the opening?

[@D3ND3Nsound]

soooo how did joe get fixed?

[@gizmoguy345]

the machine he is using for his neck is called a manual traction device, they work well and are supported by science… chiropractors not so much…

[@crstothard]

Joe needs a ring-dinger!

[@Dfk429S9fo3]

All the way down!

[@fencefirst2722]

Lmao

[@richiefromcanada4823]

What’s the name of that neck rig ...

[@strongrock9061]

I have tremendous respect for chiropractic.

[@forshigity5000]

Chro schools have a 100 percent acceptance rate. That says alot.They are bullshit.

[@neilmurphy4381]

Oh snap I had the same ulnar nerve problem. Really sucks.

[@jawknee2]

Sounds like you just had a back practitioner. The one I visit eliminates everything and shows us exactly what's going on in the x rays.

[@nathanmatthews4424]

That’s part of the theater dude. X rays are completely unnecessary they do it to appear technical when really they’re selling you snake oil

[@jehkjshrfk]

meh I've only had one experience with a chiropractor​. a thoracic vertebrae shifted out of place while I was doing a a kettlebell press. I was walking around for a month with my left shoulder almost touching my ear. went to a chiro, had one adjustment, and haven't had a problem since. guess it depends on the practioner and the injury.

[@howlinhopkins4075]

Chiropractors are not doctors. Their degree was not a DOCTORATE level degree. to be a doctor in any other field, you must complete a doctorate. This is why not a single prestigous university, or public university, or any university that has a sports team in the United States awards a chiropractic degree. look up schools where you can get a chiropractors degree from. you won't recognize a single one those schools. this is because real institutions do not consider this practice as serious. Harvard, Yale, Michigan, Ohio State etc etc. all have medical schools, law schools, doctorate degrees, however, NONE have a chiropractic degree. Those institutions willingly choose not to include chiropractic into their curriculum because its not grounded in research and science.

[@headlesssoldier]

agree. making a popping noise with someone's synovial fluid has not merit whatsoever.

[@southnj7971]

cervical traction and spinal exercises are part of chiropractic treatment lol ... cervical compression test is the ortho test used to dx discogenic problems but if u had radicular symptoms HE SHOULD HAVE REFERRED YOU FOR AN MRI thats on him not the profession as a whole... manipulation prevents degenerative joint problems by alleviating fixations and somatic dysfunction it has merit which is why DOs and DPTs also manipulate

[@rajjhellskitchen602]

100%

[@colinclement2752]

My Doctor told me if I went to a chiropractor that it was ok for them to do stuff to my back but not to let em fuck with my neck

[@jacobveryberry]

I'd probably be suicidal if not for my chiropractor and massage therapist

[@euphoricgamingsociety7856]

Jacob Berry me too Jacob

[@defjulz]

ayik147 uhh.. pain maybe?

[@iamdenislara]

Whatever placebo effect keeps you alive I guess.

[@alejandropreciado1814]

Seven you’re a piece of shit. Fuck you.

[@ericparis224]

Jacob Berry you should see a psychiatrist if you’re suicidal

[@docbp3929]

It’s a shame he went through that. Chiropractors are trained if no red flags are indicated then to try a conservative trial of care. However, if no significant progress is noticed within 6 weeks then order diagnostic imaging. That chiropractor was probably focused on profit rather than helping people. It’s unfortunate but it’s quite common in all spectrums of healthcare.

[@Jeeves-fk6tv]

Chiropractic neck adjustments are DANGEROUS. The thrust required stretches the upper neck ligaments beyond repair. The loose bones in my upper neck smack around like a box of rocks, crushing the nerves to my face and pushing on my brainstem. Thanks for the cranio-cervical instability, my former “doctor” of chiropractic.

[@frankjeffries6374]

This is bullshit. If we were dangerous our malpractice would be very high. Why isnt it??? If you want to find the dangerous doctors look at the ones that pay the most malpractice insurance premiums. Unless you can insure my million dollar house for nothing?

[@akawilly]

Yes there are bad chiropractors out there, just like any other profession.

[@CaptainTae]

But there are no chiropractors that do anything scientific. You're creating an argument that ignores the real point.

[@richm6721]

@@CaptainTae It actually relies heavily on science. Do a little research before making uninformed statements.

[@CaptainTae]

@@richm6721 Take your own advice weirdo

[@richm6721]

I did, now it’s your turn.

[@CaptainTae]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3-8eGdmpMZqe8k

[@arthur131313]

What came first - the chiropractor or the strip mall?

[@Kingmickey1789]

I agree with Mr. Rogan on most things but I disagree with this. My own experience with chiropractors has been great. I've gone a few times for issues with my lower back and it's like night and day. I only had to go back because I was being dumb and messed my back up again. I'm sure there are a lot of hacks out there but that doesn't mean the practice is bull.

[@noctisocculta4820]

That's the 2% he was referring to. The basis of chiropractic, the subluxation "theory", is absolute nonsense. The massage therapy type stuff has merit. A readjustment can improve a pinched nerve or inflamed joint, but it won't cure autism/AIDs/Covid/whatever like they claim.

[@Lelldorin84]

A few modifications and you got a sweet autoerotic asphyxiation rig.

[@sbb6779]

1 year treatment for radiating pain? I'd be angry. I'm a chiro and that's bad care and bad practice. Adjustment alone will not repair a disc bulge. He should have prescribed disc decompression. That would have bought some time. Sorry he got a bad one. There's shitty members of every profession, just got to find a really good one that is staying up on research.

[@RealShurikenX]

I have 2 herniated discs, one in my neck and one in my lower back from a car accident. The chiropractor I was seeing really only used a TENS unit and massage, and 5 epidurals. Not once did i get any kind of cracking or decompress. What do you recommend for treatment? Shit hurts.