Joe Rogan - The Problem with Chiropractors

[@BatM-l6j]

I was gay for 5 years, went to a chiropractor, and he relieved my gay nerve and now I am straight like an arrow.

[@ageortegs8359]

If your joking and still gay OWO let me get your snap

[@chrysl6058]

OMG LMAO I'm dying over here

[@douglasoneil5234]

Too funny!

[@gympump9766]

😂😂🤙

[@bdaquatics7584]

Bahahahaha

[@truthsmiles]

I went to a chiropractor with severe lower back pain. He told me the bones in my pelvis were out of alignment and could only be manipulated rectally. Of course I was skeptical at first but I went ahead with the treatment because it was covered by insurance. Mostly it felt like an aggressive prostate exam. After about 50 treatments I did start to feel better. I never did figure out how he was able to keep both his hands on my shoulders during the treatments.

[@xbowman001]

Not gonna lie got me at the first half

[@remee4685]

Could you reccomend us

[@gurgy3]

Unfortunately more truth than fiction here. Rectal spine manipulation is a thing, but usually only prescribed to women.

[@remee4685]

@@gurgy3 lmao wym

[@truthsmiles]

gurgy3 - Well in that case I suppose I should clarify that my comment was total fiction for the lulz. I’ve never even been to a chiropractor. :-)

[@fazechum3825]

My chiropractor took my spine because he said it was holding me back.

[@fendermon]

LOL

[@acpi3334]

😂

[@KrommyMusic]

He must be mr krabs

[@seanw8476]

😄

[@andrew7101]

@@KrommyMusic 😂

[@cloudypac]

I've read many good reviews about chiropractors, so me having upper back pain decided to give it a try. On the first visit the chiropractor said my spine is the issue, even tho I have brought MRI reports indicating no issues with the spine. After a couple of visits with no improvements I decided to see a physio therapist, which he immediately discovered that my back ribs are causing the pain. However I still went to my next session to the chiropractor, I mentioned that its not the spine it was the ribs which he replied: Yes I know, we are trying to fix it" so I said: but you told me its the spine? His face went red and I decided to never go back there again. A liar and a thief.

[@Mudcreekmedia]

In 2017 I broke my back, herniated 2 disks and fractured a vertebrae jumping a concrete spillway on my dirtbike. Couldnt move my right leg at all, i dont like calling it paralyzed but idk what else to call it- Went to a chiropractor, he immediately ordered an MRI, went over the direction of my disk bulge, explained deeply why it hurts my leg so bad and was a little too honest about how bad the injury was. I shit you not man my first session I needed to basically be carried in to his office, by session 5 I was standing up straight and didn’t need to Uber anymore (could drive again), was 80% physical therapy and 20% “adjustments”. You cant denounce all chiropractors, many of them are physical therapists that call themselves chiropractors because people are turned off by the term “physical therapy”.

[@manikeshvardoost3703]

where are the ribs connected to? they make joints with the spine. did the physio fix your back finally?

[@tfiero1995]

So how did you end up fixing your problem?

[@joliecide]

I think you ask a chiro anything, the answer will always be "spine alignment."

[@manikeshvardoost3703]

@@joliecide clean your body first then go for adjustment

[@eightballjamal]

If joints didn't make that gratifying popping sound, 99% of chiropractors would be out of business

[@kali7906]

No one has been able to confirm exactly what makes that popping sound. I asked my physical therapist and he said that its most likely “crepitation” so it could be trapped gases popping I guess? If you know more.. please share!

[@dragoncrack8436]

@@kali7906 the sound is the pressure that builds in between bones

[@TLemonnn]

Kookla Mu yea I heard it’s just oxygen trapped in little air pockets between the joints.

[@FnGRZupra]

@@TLemonnn nitrogen I think

[@lymmy9609]

@@dragoncrack8436 pressure of the gases

[@bellmeisterful]

You can have a chiropractor "adjust" you, walk into another office and they'll tell you you need an adjustment.

[@liblib89]

Bingo

[@zeruty]

When my back is messed up, I can get adjusted, by the time I get back out to my car it goes out again. So you could legitimately need an adjustment at the next office.

[@420f37]

@Mark Priest it feels good to get adjusted but there's just no research to say how it'll cure anything

[@nyk3334]

100%

[@piercenewby2406]

@ebulating have you never been adjusted. all they do is move the joint around, they say this. they send the joint through a range of motions, its like stretching, doesnt work if you dont do it regularly. most of us sitting down all day long causing weird compression and stiffness, we are not meant to sit that long. when your tendons become stiff you have to stretch when your joints become stiff you must bend or else itll stay that way.

[@MrJeremyactor]

Have a chiropractor on the show

[@jimmyrawlings3343]

Fitness With Jeremy Shelton ya they need to have a chiropractor in the show there way wrong , and coming from joe who I thought was a athlete but apparently he only kicks bags he doesn’t do any hard labor that would wear a disc out, so he doesn’t have a clue really i crab fish on the ocean stack the biggest heaviest pots In the harbor on are boat and trust me when I say me and many crab fisherman go to chiropractic care and acupuncture and Massages are regular for anyone who crab fishes . All of these are really good for you if you work hard labor or fight for a living are your a athlete. Ya a physical therapy is really good also I would say go to therapy before having surgery most cases therapy will fix it surgery should only be a last decision sometimes it’s necessary. Remember if your lower back or neck or hip is thrown out a place it’s going to throw other things out of place and make you more unhealthy so what Joe is saying is very wrong chiropractic care will line you back up, straighten you out you , with that and physical therapy together remember you have to strengthen the weak part again after you fix it, really it’s common since don’t see how people don’t get it or understand it if you’ve gone through real pain in your life , and some real hard fights , you know chiropractic care is very good, relieves pain helps to straighten you back out

[@TheDudeAbides-247]

Good luck finding one who would do it.

[@MrJeremyactor]

Dan Limbach It wouldn’t be hard- find the top guy in the country and ask him to come on the show. It happens to be the top podcast, they would certainly do it.

[@MrJeremyactor]

Jimmy Rawlings Great points!

[@PhiBuddha]

Dr John Bergman would be an awesome chiropractor to interview.

[@shaunbang]

This girl was trying to crack jokes and none of them drew out a reaction from joe lol

[@fshoaps]

Joe hates women.

[@JRspeaking]

She's a woman, not a girl.

[@shaunbang]

@@fshoaps lmao

[@clown3663]

@@fshoaps based

[@daltonnewman1094]

Crack.... jokes...😀

[@TBDguitar]

This makes me want a ring dinger

[@mattleonard5268]

God damn right. One of the only adjustments that actually helps.

[@desmondciauri4616]

Felt that one all the way down

[@danielanderson2030]

Been itchin to get to back to Houston...

[@JordanReedYT]

Cool Dude That's one of the only ones that work outside of Gonstead. It simulates spinal decompression. OR you can buy a tool to do it.

[@reddishf0x237]

That comment was a home run!

[@STARREDGE]

She should write a smear article about the person who tattooed her.

[@gainsgamingginger2177]

STARREDGE tattoo artists usually say not to get thin lines close together because it’ll smear and such. That things harsh

[@cinzafenix08]

😂😂😂😂

[@elel9640]

Looks like a cover up?

[@clintonmiller8346]

@@elel9640 a cover up? Theres thin lines with breaks in between...lmao no way it's a cover up. You'd see right through the new tat and see the old one

[@lazerousspazerous6182]

😂😂😂😂😂🙌😂😂

[@ValiRossi]

Listening to her talk makes my spine hurt.

[@arlandoamb6754]

😂😂😂💯

[@tristantomashefski1806]

After working for a chiro for 6 weeks I disagree with most of her points. She was so negative during the whole video, lame.

[@zc5zm]

For REAL lol

[@XenoTravis]

@@tristantomashefski1806 not all chiropractors will do all the fake stuff. You may work for one that isn't delusional.

[@terrycamerlengo5492]

Chiropractors love her

[@InvestmentJoy]

I have respect for these people, but from my own personal experience with a friend who experienced his spinal cord being crushed, no level of surgery or regular medical intervention was able to help him from being nearly paralyzed. That was till he started going to a chiropractor who worked on him for about a year. He was eventually off all pain medication walking upright with very minimal issues afterward. None of the regular doctors could understand how he was able to walk again. There are absolutely a bunch of nut jobs and quacks in the Chiropractic industry it could even be most of them, but there's just too many cases where people got severe relief from going to one

[@ColbyEasterling]

Just starting to go to a chiropractor… hope it helps me. Ps: love your content man. Visited my friend in Ohio and I found out he lives near your area.. told that boy he better get into real estate 😂

[@MrPartch]

now, imagine an alternate reality where your friend did not go to that chiropractor for that whole year and instead he just rested and lightly exercised. would he have gotten better? probably! correlation does not mean causation. if chiropractic stuff was any useful, it wouldn't be too hard to prove its healing capabilities with some controlled studies. alternative medicine that works is called medicine. when an "alternative" technique/method is scientifically proven to be helpful, medicine adopts it into its repertoire.

[@THCAtomicjuice]

@@MrPartch my wife has had huge benefit from going to a chiropractor for her hip and spine alignment issues. They took before and after X-rays and the difference is insane

[@tomszabo4615]

@@MrPartch that doesn’t mean that the chiropractic therapy didn’t help that process. It could have sped it up or eased the pain that came along with it

[@MrPartch]

@@tomszabo4615 and for that. we need a lot of studies to demonstrate that it helps speed things up, or that it just helps in general

[@1flashlite1]

I hurt my neck playing football and after years of constant pain, I went to a chiropractor and he cracked my neck...it was fantastically life changing. I felt free neck movement for the first time in 3 years. It was life changing in a good way. I'm just a sample of one but it really worked for me.

[@dashriprock2916]

I have heard of people getting their "neck cracked" and caused a stroke. I won't let a chiropractor touch my neck.

[@bodekroll]

@@dashriprock2916 a lot of people that get chiropractic care are overweight, old, out of shape, or generally unhealthy. it is common for these type of people to have strokes, and when they do it can be blamed on their chiropractor.

[@ceologreen]

@@dashriprock2916 im 22 years old have been to a chiroprachtor nearly 100 times and havent had a stroke yet. Felt wonderful after every visit.

[@xipo_]

Doing jiu-jitsu, I've popped my ribs out a couple times a year. Going to the Chiropractor is like the only place to go to get them popped in. Anyone who has had a popped rib knows it's very painful. It feels like you can't breathe deep, feels like you're having a heart attack, and just the general pain and lack of mobility you have. The moment my chiropractor pops the rib back in... the pain and everything goes away immediately.

[@christophersellers4018]

Chiro wrote this. Lol

[@trummi_app]

Joe needs a ringer dinger

[@robshearz6796]

Double ring dinger

[@yo0pablo48]

Crack Addicts going to love him !!!! 😂

[@fuadiftekher1307]

Home Run!

[@frankboy619]

Defenetly

[@zusesol6915]

Lmao

[@GuyFromTheSouth]

"I dont know how he could have given consent if he's deaf." And she's a SCIENTIST!?

[@christosbinos8467]

Yeah that was odd

[@drakkn52]

Lmaooo not her best moment. She is biased clearly

[@obinnaasuoha2890]

Written consent lol

[@fuhgeddaboutit7848]

Seriously wtf is wrong with this lady

[@bradhargis2261]

This chick is no scientist.

[@AlferdGonzal]

A lot of medicine in the 1800s were full of crap.

[@frederf3227]

Surgery had really awful practices then too which is why surgery today is completely invalid as a health practice. That's just simple logic. The early astronomers thought the sun and planets went around the Earth which is why no astronomy today is valid.

[@alexgordonepic]

sure but so is a lot of "medicine" now... things found in 1800's : Rene Laennec's Stethoscope, aspirin, blood transfusions, nitrous oxide for anesthetic, x rays, hearing aids, open heart surgery.... so... pretty amazing at it's time... and some, we still use today. :)

[@evidencebasedlife137]

Damn. Leave it to a pokemon lover to not understand obvious sarcasm.

[@joelcox9190]

Great point. I was just thinking how at one time the medical establishment used leeches to treat patients, so I guess it's all just quackery too! 😉

[@jonjohn855]

@pokemonlover696969 kinda feel like he was being sarcastic

[@haze1123]

I went to a chiropractor for pretty bad lower back pain every year or so. Then a chiropractor put me on a roller table for 30 minutes. Haven't had lower back pain in 15 years. Worked for me!

[@grahamvandyke]

Thank you for proving it can work!!

[@robertkywildcats9266]

My chiropractor changes my oil while I wait. So that's why I go.

[@haze1123]

@JD Rubble I agree. Exercise is also key for keeping your own back in alignment. Most of us tend to sit too much.

[@dr.shelleyshoemake6198]

@I'm Mikey A rib doesn't "tear away" in this case. A chiropractor is not usually looking for dislocation but a subluxation (less than dislocation). Yes, they can be seen on x-ray. Mostly they can be felt on motion palpation. The cavitaton (pop) occurs when a misarticulating rib is lined up correctly and the stress is taken out of the joint space. I have stacks of x-ray books from the classes that I was made to take. If I take an x-ray I am responsible for reading it and everything on it.

[@dr.shelleyshoemake6198]

@I'm Mikey Then why do I have my own x-ray machine, processor, and stacks of x-ray film??

[@aaronjacob4958]

A chiropractor saved my life... He cracked my neck once and I instantly gained the ability to read minds and fly.

[@KaraokeNig]

How did mind reading saved your life?

[@davidsawicki676]

I believe you. I got my neck cracked once by a chiropractor and all of a sudden I could change the weather with my mind!

[@98erics]

@@davidsawicki676 The power of shooting lightning bolts from my fingertips was the superpower I gained from dropping out of chiropractor skool.

[@98erics]

now that i think about it, i might have missed the class where you can do it on command, talk about a shy bladder.

[@Ssylphie]

Aw really? I became immortal after they graciously caused some artery dissection! Oh yeah I also became a wizard.

[@craigdonovan4277]

I hurt my back at work and was literally hobbling. Seen a chiro who did an adjustment with the hand tool and was walking normal right after it. There are dodgy people in all jobs but I still swear by a good chiro.

[@bubsd487]

Because there are nerves that could be helped, but that's not what chiropractors are just doing

[@RicardoMontania]

It's still bullshit pseudomedicine

[@howtodoit3074]

What most likely happened is a placebo effect where you went got adjusted and your body made you think you're ok

[@craigdonovan4277]

@@howtodoit3074 yeah because you would be the best person to know what was wrong with my body. GTFO.

[@howtodoit3074]

@@craigdonovan4277 yea it's a placebo effect sorry to break it to you sweetheart

[@gretabirro5573]

Why don’t you discuss it with a chiropractor

[@emmy4537]

yes

[@mattrixx9019]

Or BOTH a "top chiropractor" and Steven Novella (or one of the key Science-Based Medicine site contributors) on the same one

[@3nertia]

@Donny Smith False equivalency much? Just because you wouldn't understand the science behind legit chiropractors doesn't mean it would be a waste of *everyone's* time ;)

[@jaycue7641]

Agreed. Let them have a chance to defend their position. I know my chiropractor has helped me. And never once suggested that Chiropractic therapy negates the need for vaccines or drugs.

[@paulblank6161]

Shes one of those big mouth bimbos who knows nothing. A real doctor? Is there only a medical doctor? What about a dentist? Or osteopath? We are all doctors if we pass the school and exams. We have different functions. Joe you are wrong .

[@limperlunk7292]

I am 34 years of age and the first time in my life I had a issue in my upper back, neck, scapula after doing shoulder shrugs. I thought I over did it, and after day 7 the pain moved around in the upper region, and actually started affecting my sleep on day 7. It simply felt like some needed popped, therefore I made an appointment for a chiropractor. After home remedies of having my wife walk my back, using a foam roller, trying everything to simply relieve tension or pressure, nothing work. I sought a chiropractor, explained my situation, and within 15 minutes the pain was relieved and felt that tension removed. He gave additional adjustments, but concluded this was a simple adjustment and no further appointments was needed unless the symptoms continued. No issues since.

[@spencerhon4430]

I had a similar experience when one of my ribs popped out in my back after tossing my kid up in the pool. Felt like my back was broken, haha! Could barely breathe after it happened and after a couple days of that crap I finally went to get adjusted at a walk-in clinic. They adjusted me and I instantly felt relief. I asked him if I would need to come back and he said "Nah, just be careful with it." I've had some problems here and there, but nothing like that. Would definitely go back if it happened again, though. This lady pins all chiropractors as some crazy cult that all believe in what that original guy did. From what I've seen, it's not the case at all. Lot of great people that just want to help others not be in pain. Most of them work directly with primary care Dr's and physical therapists as well. Maybe things are changing in the chiro world.

[@ashtonwalker3881]

I’m 26 yr and in a similar situation but have been dealing with it for almost a year now. The pain has made its way to my chest muscles and that started affecting my sleep tremendously. I booked an appointment with a very experienced chiropractor yesterday and after the first appointment I already feel a massive release. I’m not 100% yet but I’m confident after a few more adjustments and a plan to get me back in shape I will make a full recovery.

[@lobo53695]

Placebo. Look it uo

[@gusramirez5647]

@@lobo53695 if a placebo works then who cares, it works

[@lxrdqxxn8884]

I have mild scoliosis from the army and it helps relieve alot of tension not in the same way that a masseuse does either

[@louisgreenwood9515]

Man, I wish I had the problem of having “too much pot”.

[@reagan6743]

Louis Greenwood lol right? Just had to quit because i can’t afford it

[@KarasouTengu]

@@reagan6743 At least you got priorities right, much respect.

[@SASMADBRUV7]

@@reagan6743 good. Don't waste your money on that shit

[@KarasouTengu]

@Matt Thoink Pot isn't a drug, drugs are man made, its a plant. You call everyone that drinks an alcoholic?

[@louisgreenwood9515]

Matt Thoink get off your high horse you bum, you ain’t contributing shit to the world but your bullshit attitude. Take a hit and relax~ you of all people need to open your mind and shut your mouth.

[@ReppLoyd]

I have scoliosis and have dealt with pain for all my life, physical therapy helped a little but i eventually had to quit due to it being too stressful and time consuming, i started seeing a chiro for free as she was a family friend and genuinely wanted to help me, i went in every week for a month and it really helped, although I wasn't completely pain free it was a huge difference that lasted for a very long time, it's been about 2 years and only now the pain has started to get bad again. I can understand it not being for everyone and that it isn't a proven science but if you're desperate i think you should give it a shot

[@wwjccsd]

They do say it can help pain but unlike physical therapy doesn’t help remedy the root issue. Looking for quick fix is what leads people to see chiros for quack remedies

[@DanielDavies-StellularNebulla]

@@wwjccsd Your statement is more ironic than you know. If you'd like to understand why, search "Gonstead Chiropractic" on KZbin. Dr. Rahim is a great place to start :)

[@xylexut2589]

@@wwjccsd It depends on how much the chiropractor knows. The good ones, which are the only ones anyone should ever consider going to and it is easy to tell who they are, will help relieve pain but also do so much more. They will X-ray you and look around at the spot that hurts but also above and below because one things always affects another. They will recommend building muscle there or stretching there more often. You can always deny the quack stuff and go to a different doctor. If they don't offer a 1st day physical interaction whether it's just stretching or an actual adjustment, then you're not at the right place.

[@xxDubsy]

Cant you fix that with a brace or am I just dumb?

[@lastninjaitachi]

Same story eveeyone has, "chriopractors helped me Im still going 3 years later" lol thats alot of money

[@jimpyre5038]

The whole history of medicine is pretty scary....

[@mikegamerguy4776]

Especially the part where costs used to be very reasonable but as tech and knowledge advanced costs rose to astronomical levels and it remained privatized in the United States. And if you are the unlucky winner of the medical lottery even a millionaire can go bankrupt in short order, even with insurance.

[@benjaminasbury5346]

Yeah I'd agree, the difference is actual medicine has come a long way since the 1800s while chiropractic medicine hasnt. Real medicine is backed up by countless studies

[@Intravenous14]

Benjamin Asbury they are just now starting studies that show acupuncture is effective at treating certain conditions just because studies haven’t been done doesn’t mean it isn’t effective

[@spankthewan]

@@Intravenous14 Many studies have been done that disprove the efficacy of chiropracty and other psuedoscience bullshit. How are you going to claim these studies have never been done? WOW

[@yratsanic]

The whole history is pretty scarry....

[@conradkowalski97]

Joe should consider having Dr. Beau Hightower on the show!

[@bknyte23]

Nice statement

[@jbo4547]

@Josiah E lol jealoussss

[@drippy4622]

@Josiah E lmao I bet you don't do anything in life now

[@Mecca33]

Agreed

[@rhymeswithteeth]

Beau isn't a doctor.

[@kylevandersyde2495]

From the same people that think weed cures literally everything

[@latinolawdog5067]

You have a point.

[@esko7523]

Kyle Vander Syde Clip saying Chiropractors make false claims gets angry response from someone making false claims. Perfect. This lets me know they’re on the right track.

[@kristinheimburg330]

Exactly!

[@jayzplayz6659]

Yeah my uncle has lung cancer and has been smoking marijuana or consuming it in some way for 30 years...but it cures cancer right? Haha 😂

[@TheSensibleShooter]

@@jayzplayz6659 Sorry bout your uncle.....you should smoke a blunt.

[@MrRdb9109]

As a chiropractor, I understand about the history of chiro. It has a checkered past, but so do all healing techniques, including medicine. The original theories of chiropractic are obviously debunked, but there are chiro's like me who really understand the spine and how it works and how it can go wrong. And then it's important to utilize techniques and procedures that are scientifically sound and make sense. There are crazy folks in every profession. You simply have to find a chiro who is science based and uses traditional chiro/physical techniques that actually work and help. Just don't put all chiro's in the same camp and through the preverbal "baby out with the bathwater". Just a thought Joe from a BIG FAN!!

[@Mighty2C]

@MT even in medicine it is a problem. Until robots replace theses works you are always expose. Some people go to the hospital for a minor thing and end dead because human error.

[@NalierSkaal]

The plural of "chiro" is "chiros". No apostrophe. Apostrophe makes it a singular possessive. Then it's "throw", not "through", and "proverbial", not "preverbal". How to know which chiros are science based? Don't they all think it's science, no matter what they believe? How can we distinguish which ones follow actual science and which ones follow chiropractic pseudoscience? And wouldn't a science based chiro just be a physical therapist? Why waste time trying to figure out if a chiro follows real science instead of just going to someone who finished medical school and definitely does?

[@NinjaBurg3r]

Eh, I don’t know. I tweaked my back one time doing deadlifts and was sore for days. Went to a chiropractor, who was also a bodybuilder, and had him adjust my lower back and it worked wonders. He also instructed me not to use an “over/under grip” because people tend to favor one side and twist when pulling the weight up off of the ground. He didn’t bullshit me, he didn’t promise any miracle cure, he simply adjusted my lower back and gave me some simple advice from one weightlifter to another and it worked great for me and I haven’t had any issues since. Believe me, I was skeptical because when I was researching lower back relief and chiropractors, I came across all the bullshit and how divisive a topic it seemed to be. I told myself I’d give it a singular chance and I’m glad I did because I was very happy with the result.

[@3percent3]

I literally just gave a chiropractor a chance... He did good .

[@CWK09]

NinjaBurg3r you probably could achieve the same result from foam rolling though

[@frsknsld]

@@CWK09 foam rollers dont always work. didnt for me anyways.

[@adamj8488]

He said not all chriropracters are complete bs. His argument is 50% are bad so why would you take that risk.

[@doubleaalanderson4571]

Watching ppl use an over under grip in a non-competitive environment drives me insane.

[@mikeadams78]

My wife couldn't walk for several months. A chiropractor restored her back. The doctors wanted to do a surgery that would of only partially restored her mobility. It's not all bullshit.

[@gg-uq6zm]

Mike Adams placebo effect

[@davidsoto8445]

The body heals it self. I still have back issues from parachute jumps, chiro didn't do the job for me. Massage therapy made the pain go away. I'm only one guy though.

[@DurtyBuhks]

I'm a massage therapist and lemme tell ya the massage should be covered under chiropractic. Sometimes when I stretch people necks and other parts I pop them because once the muscles relax the joint will fall in place easily or easier than before. I've taken old ladies off walkers and helped singers hold their notes longer. Waitresses and bartenders with shldr and neck issues. Yet insurance wont cover me? Its absolutely ridiculous

[@teufelshunde4]

@@DurtyBuhks IMO massage therapist, chiropractic and physical therapy should be under same roof. Ive had best results with getting care from each one. Ive got arthritis in low back, 2 bulging discs in neck. If I dont maintain, ill get neuropathy in left arm so bad I cant sleep. When I get to treatment from these on a consistent schedulen i get little to no pain. Every person I know who has had back surgery is not better for it. And I am a person who isnt shy about seeing MD when its needed.

[@DurtyBuhks]

@@teufelshunde4 they ARE under the same roof!...just not in America. In eastern medicine BODYWORK is the general term for anyone who manipulates the joints and muscles to create balance. Western medicine separates us all so we are forced to go thru extensive schooling. I'd be 35 by the time I got my massage lisence chiro and PT lisence and I'd be 100k plus in debt if not more. Its ridiculous

[@johnpadenw]

At 21 years old, I messed up my back on a deployment doctors absolutely failed me and wanted to just constantly shove drugs down my throat, I could barely walk or sleep for 2 years. MRIs, Xrays, all they could say was I had a herniated disc and too bad, I could have surgery on my back and it "might" fix it. Had some cortisone shots. Then I went to a chiro, who looked at my xrays and said oh look at your L4/L5 etc, within 5 treatments I was a new person.

[@Billllyubbda]

Very similar experience but chiropractic did not work for me. Meditation saved my life.

[@loosecabooseus]

Same. I injured my back in hs and my osteopathic sports dr who x-rayed me just loaded me up on codeine for 1 month. I lived with chronic back pain for years until one day in college I was offered a free adjustment. It’s like I was reborn! Not only was a sonogramed, my Chiro showed me why I am in pain, what she will do about it and also how the rest of my body was compensating and in contestant tension on some muscles. After three visits, my back pain disappeared, my headaches and fatigue too. Decades later, after running a lot, my hip gave out on me. I went to go see a doctor in Miami. She suggested I go see a chiro first, and if that doesn’t work, come back to discuss expensive and invasive hip surgery, at 33yo... after two session I was back running. So come tell me chiropractors don’t work! This lady is just making shit up and rogan read one article and sounds like people who claim psychology is a pseudoscience based on some errors, mean ignoring the fact that it was psychiatrist MDs who performed the invasive lobotomies.... I also had my ears popped by a chiro once too and my gf said I have since stopped grinding my teeth...

[@juliopena9409]

@@loosecabooseus liar

[@xelnjare3945]

@Benjamin Armenta DMT is a fickle bitch :)

[@seanscanlon9067]

@@juliopena9409 A stunning contribution to the debate from you there.

[@garylewis4398]

All I can say is that it helped me. I smacked the mastoid bone on the back of my head, and my neck froze up. My Dad made an appointment with a chiro he knew. Three sessions and I was right as rain. To me, it's like a car with the front end out of alignment. You grind through tires. If your skeletal system is out of alignment, you grind through joints. The Chiro I went to never got into any of the other woo-woo BS!

[@anandpatel1074]

Thank you! I just went to the chiropractor and had a great experience too!

[@jamescastle5096]

Gary Lewis; You are so right!!! First off I'm going preface what I'm about to say by saying there are good and bad in ever profession; From chiropractors to mechanics, to lawyers and MD's and I've had good and bad experiences with all of those. Thankfully the 1st Chiropractor I meet was truly great, I'll explain about 7 years after I had moved away from living near his practice I slipped a disc in my low back, So I initially went to this guy he had referred me to a few years earlier, With him I would only get better to a point and be almost back to square one, So I got a referral to another Chiropractor and in my first appointment he does x-rays and tells my right leg is 14mm shorter than my left but doesn't really do anything to address that, So after seeing him for about 3 weeks and him using some gadget me. I say screw this go and see my old chiropractor and I will say it took a while my initial problem the slipped disc took about 4-5 months and he treated me by doing a number of things (he doesn't use gadgets like some do) 1st I got fitted with custom orthotics and a 14mm lift to wear in my right shoe and for about 4+ months I received traction and massage therapy and spinal manipulation IE regular adjustments but it took 4+ months before he was finally able to adjust my lower back and was pain free and no longer walking like a duck haha. I will add since I am at in tune with my body so to speak and I have a problem I'll know if I need to see a chiropractor. Also being physically active I know what exercises and stretching to do to keep from having problems, I also try get regular massage as well. I will also add that a lot of professional sports teams have Chiropractors on there staff. Chiropractic education is a LONG WAY from it's origins!!!. Bill Philips founder of EAS supplements and publisher of Muscle Media Magazine did a very in depth article on Chiropractic and the depth and breadth of there education. Foot Note Body builder Franco Columbo was/is a Chiropractor Jack Lalane practiced chiropractic but didn't But didn't let it be known early in his career/life because of the stigma that still followed it back then.

[@Lucas-pv2wn]

My brakes were squealing on my car, so I put earmuffs on. Totally fixed it!

[@Monkforilla]

And then your chiropractor f*cks up and your injured badly

[@g29000]

@@Mysteriessss what

[@NimW]

She thinks deaf people can't communicate.

[@d.s.2519]

I think this woman is high

[@nnamdi5611]

That's what I was thinking hahaha

[@MapleBar777]

I wish I could read your comment, and reply back, but I can't. I'm deaf.

[@sucio3671]

Bahaha

[@Erick_Vale]

what a good catch haha. holy s*#% that was dumb

[@Jp-mn1rq]

I was skeptical of chiropractic in the beginning but was encouraged to see one for neck and shoulder pain. I was on a program where I came in 2 times per week for a month. At the end of the first month my skepticism was 100% justified. Didn’t do a damn thing except lighten my wallet. I ended up having surgery and am now pain free.

[@backpain100]

This is the way. Always go to a licensed Medical Doctor, or a PT/Physio. And I'm happy for you that you are pain free! I have shoulder pain and it's no fun.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox8382]

"You can't get consent from a deaf person" okay so you know they can still communicate?

[@kanorcubes329]

Pseudointellectual

[@alwaysplay13]

Bud it was the 1800s most people couldnt fuckin read smartass

[@ttqt9400]

ur dum

[@elisa.r.g]

@@alwaysplay13 so this guy strapped down this person to crack his back?

[@alwaysplay13]

@@elisa.r.g doubt it ever even happened...what are you trying to defend he cured a deaf guy by a couple cracks?

[@greyyy7994]

I don’t get it, my chiropractor got rid of my headaches, he fixes my neck and I’m happy. I have had no issues with my guy he’s great. Fixes my back and shoulders as well.

[@wge621]

The problem is that because it's not accepted by the AMA, there isn't as much standardization and training that happens before they're certified. There was a big antitrust lawsuit the AMA because of how they treated chiropractors. What we need to do is accept that there are real benefits that can occur from chiropractors but they need better training in order to offer those benefits more consistently. A chiropractic technique was what reversed my hiatal hernia, something that doctors said wasn't possible without surgery. It's totally changed my life and I am hugely thankful to them for it

[@frankrizzo5057]

@@wge621 not only better training but standardized so you don't get the bad experiences which make all of it look questionable.

[@wge621]

@@frankrizzo5057 yeah i mentioned the lack of standardization. standardization comes with training

[@JuJuForREAL]

He didn’t get a good dr. Or his issues are too bad to be relived so he made this hate video.

[@wge621]

@Cream Cheese you're right that I still have a bit of GERD, but chiropractors reversed my hernia (through free content), while my doctors told me I would need surgery or live with it for life, which would probably give me stomach or esophageal cancer later on. That's shit advice and now my hernia is non-existent and has been for months. I used to get reflux multiple times a day, had difficulty swallowing, pain in my chest, shortness of breath, pain in my back, abdomen, panic attacks that sent me to the ER. After the self adjustment and other dietary advice from chiros, I have NONE of those symptoms aside from a bit of tenderness in my sternum when I don't take some acid with my last meal. The medicine and advice docs gave worsened my symptoms and would have made me dependent on something that was actively damaging my body. Even if my hernia comes back I can just do the adjustment again. I no longer have to watch what I eat and avoid all acidic or spicy food,I don't need to use an incline pillow to sleep on at night,I don't have to avoid meals after 6pm, I can take naps after eating - these were all things I had to avoid or do when I was listening to advice by doctors, and my life was shit and my GERD was so much worse! People they think the medical industry is the ONLY way to find healing. Well after many visits to the doctor for various ailments, I've realized that they are good at managing symptoms, NOT healing or curing. I've often been prescribed medicine that EXACERBATED my condition or gave me new problems! This is what happens when healthcare and pharmaceutical industry kickbacks are so closely related. I will still visit doctors but i will no longer take their word as gospel, because they've been wrong when working with me so many times. The worst part is that the medical industry convinces people that they are doomed and need to take pills their whole life, or get organs removed, when in reality for many conditions there are a host of other treatments you can try first that may well produce the healing you're looking for

[@tristenweems5734]

Point of view from a chiropractors son. I’ve known many chiropractors and haven’t met any that claim to fix hearing or anything crazy. Not saying there isn’t some out there. Just like preachers, I’ve never met a crazy one that claims to heal people by touching them. But there are some weirdo preachers that claim to heal people while they scream and flip around on the ground. Along with weirdo chiropractors that claim they can fix anything with an adjustment. In a lot of professions there will be a few extremist people. The entire idea of chiropractic, Atleast now, and this is what I love, is that you go to the hospital for back pain and they give you a pain pill but that doesn’t fix the problem only the symptom. Where as you go to a chiropractor and they try a more natural way to fix the back pain then just giving pills. I love medical doctors, I also love chiropractors. They both have advantages and disadvantages. They look at problems in their own way, which is the way they were taught to. I don’t discredit any chiropractor or MD, DO, most are actually in it to help people. Also one more thing that most people don’t know. Chiropractors go to college the same amount of time as a medical doctor, 8 years, in that time they study the exact same stuff but leave out prescription medicine. They both receive an undergraduate degree, receive a 4 year healthcare degree, obtain state and National license by passing the exam. The Doctor of Chiropractic focuses intensively on anatomy, physiology, and human biology. They must continue to pass education requirements every year to keep their license. They both study anatomy/embryology, biochemistry/chemistry, diagnosis, neurology, microbiology, public health, physiology, pathology, obstetrics/gynecology, orthopedics, psychology/psychiatry, and X-ray. Both have to have over 500 hours of manual medicine training. While DC’s study 2x as much Anatomy, MDs study 3x as much public health. DCs also don’t have to do a 1 year internship. But they still study/practice under other DCs for so many hours but they do it while still in school, don’t know the exact hour requirement. Total hours to become a Doctor of chiropractic 2,419 Total hours to become a Medical Doctor 2,047

[@wendymcinnis7197]

I had 4 surgeries and still had carpal tunnel pain for years. I started going to a chiropractor in 2000, and it changed my life. But, there are some charlatans out there that are all about making money.

[@OiMitch]

Yeh I'm not quite convinced. My back has hurt for a long time until I saw a chiro and now I can do much heavier weights in the gym with no pain at all

[@youngboyxaj6692]

Beni Zenteno Lol yes it’s your opinion or the highway. Never mind other people’s experience. You have a mindset that contributes to a lot of problems in the world, sorry.

[@briangray6568]

Did she say deaf people can't give consent 🤔

[@viceb7]

Yea I'm confused by that also... Deaf people can absolutely read 🤦

[@josephmonrroy1877]

She did say that. I even stopped and thought about it lol

[@viceb7]

Literally my deaf dog can give consent to things lol ruined her credibility for me unfortunately, on top of her seeming so biased already honestly

[@josephmonrroy1877]

Super bias. Almost as if she was paid to. Just a damn hater.

[@viceb7]

@@josephmonrroy1877 yea idk what that was about, I'm skeptical of chiropractics from my own experience but never heard of them ever claiming the ridiculous stuff she kept bringing up. Weird hill to die on right?

[@unibrowser1]

This lady needs to relax, breath through her nose, keep her teeth together, and get a ring dinger.

[@Adam-dn5oc]

We must summon Greg Johnson

[@fretbored1]

Win

[@joegastly6166]

She needs a nice long pacifier to nob on if you want her to stay quiet

[@jp05598]

Hahahahaha

[@Bald_bold_intruder-86]

@@Adam-dn5oc or maybe even some Dr Joseph Cipriano lmao

[@tylersanchez9346]

I'm on the fence on chiropractors. Had really bad scoliosis when I was young, chiropractor fixed that, but some of the other things they do I really question.

[@campbellrasmussen4080]

fair call, my chiro doesn't charge me extra for anything, gives me free sessions and tells me if i dont think its working dont feel bad for not coming again. thats why i trust mine

[@undisputed6034]

@@campbellrasmussen4080 yeah that's literally called reverse psychology

[@Noname-vr5yw]

I question most the shit doctors do and say.

[@BRedFilms]

@@undisputed6034 but by all means pump countless meds into your body

[@Svientz]

@@undisputed6034 your paranoid

[@nine9090.]

a chiropractor fixed my lower back issues. that's all I know. went to standard doctors for a year. was taking muscle relaxers and injections, just short term help.

[@InstrumentalMangmnt]

im surprised to hear that. out of all the therapies I have spent thousands of dollars on.. I can say chiropractic work was a waste of time. accupuncture = great, massage = crucial.

[@CarnalKid]

How do you "know" that?

[@janolableach9114]

CarnalKid because chiropractors are frauds.

[@CarnalKid]

Janola Bleach You might wanna reread this comment chain, buddy. I asked how the original poster could "know" that a chiropractor fixed their back.

[@janolableach9114]

CarnalKid just adding to what youre saying. But all good.

[@PineappleStickers]

I tweaked my neck at work and it persisted for a few days. Maybe a Chiropractor wasn't the best choice, but i'm pretty clueless when it came to doctors. When i saw the local guy, he had a quick look and straight up said "Look, i think you just pulled a muscle. Chiropractic work isn't gonna do anything for that" . I definitely appreciated the honesty

[@drakeweddner]

Or he recognized theres a real problem and didnt wana be responseable

[@BapiBoozle]

@@drakeweddner Since when is pulling a muscle a real problem?

[@somewhatinformed1208]

@@BapiBoozle for most people it's a real problem every time they pull a muscle... they know they will be in pain and maybe not able to move for hours maybe weeks., it's the pain that most people have a problem with.

[@firghteningtruth7173]

@@BapiBoozle if you pull a muscle, then have someone cranking on it, it can be a real problem.

[@Dutcheh]

@@BapiBoozle chiropractors tend to permanently disable or even kill people when forcefully cracking the neck. the neck isn’t supposed to do that. When they crack your neck it’s similar to you getting in a car accident. So it very well could potentially permanently injure you. The chiropractor could have not wanted to take that risk on the neck.

[@eekaygames]

Hm. I was in a car accident that left me with neck and back pain. Regular doctor told me to take pain meds and sleep it off. Nothing went away. Went to a chiropractor who just cracked my back and neck. Pain was instantly gone.

[@Daniel-pr2tp]

Placebo

[@purplemacaw4189]

@@Daniel-pr2tp or more likely message and spinal decompression which happen during the chiropractor visit help with back pain

[@chaseminer5898]

@@Daniel-pr2tp good chiropractors stimulate muscles that aren't normally activated using electrodes to help the imbalances causing the pain, then massage these areas deeply, then stretch out the joints and cause spinal decompression. Then they will give you lists of stretches with demonstrations that are specific to your problem. There is science backing all of these things when it comes to recovery its not placebo buddy but sure keep shitting on people trying to maintain there bones.

[@Daniel-pr2tp]

@@chaseminer5898 oh yeah? Studies that are faulty, and/or inconclusive. Bullshit popping that helps you for a few days?

[@leafster1337]

@@Daniel-pr2tp if its placebo, how could it come back in a few days? uh oh...ur wrong...

[@11Elevenpunk]

This is like what people do/claim with essential oils. There is a time and place but people will always try to use things to take advantage of others and promote themselves. I never really thought chiropractors were legit but my wife had sudden neck and rear skull pain so bad it would cause her to almost pass out or throw up. She couldn't stand or be upright for longer than 30 min and couldn't turn her head. We went to 2 different ERs and a family doctor. They all did scans and tests and came back negative. They gave her pain meds and told her to just take it easy and to come back if it didn't go away in a few weeks. After two months they scheduled a neurologist for 2 months later but in the meantime she saw a chiropractor twice a week. She was back to normal before the neurology appointment so we cancelled it. She just does a maintenance visit to the chiropractor once a month now. I don't blame people for being skeptical or not trusting chiropractors....but in this case the doctors failed.

[@AlecBurriss]

Her tattoo looks like it was done by a chiropractor

[@molleywood]

A chiropractic adjustment could fix it...

[@user-honey118]

😂

[@jasonstevens6877]

Looks more like it was done by a blind guy.

[@VibeinATLien]

🤣🤣this is actually a really good joke right there

[@davedrucker8397]

Now that is funny 🤣😂

[@jackneals5585]

GET DR GREGORY JOHNSON ON THE SHOW PLEASE!

[@Sharper714]

Your Houston chiropractor.

[@drizzydaniell6907]

Are we talking about the king of ring dingers? Yep

[@santino5873]

This dr knows his stuff and how to give people their lives back. All Hail king ring dinger!!

[@KeanuJeez]

I was just thinking the same thing. He knew what was up with me within just a few seconds of looking and I was only slightly out of alignment. He's very experienced, talented and knowledgable.

[@Hankschrader2000]

😂😂😂 that would be hilarious

[@_Amilio_]

Joe "have you cracked your back on DMT before?" Rogan

[@davionbradford329]

Amilio 😂😂

[@Frmrspecialist74]

Solid half baked references..

[@BEDMan-vl3xy]

It’s one hundred percent possible

[@THATHOMIEwiththeBIGFEET]

G'D UP N SOULJA'D Down l homie ain't got a profile pic he's a troll

[@matthewbielawski6688]

These joked are lame af

[@billyulch8192]

I went to an emergency room. They said I had psyatica . I thought great. No big deal. I'll ice and go see a chiropractor. My chiropractor measured my hips and knew it wasn't sciatica. So the Drs. At the hospital misdiagnosed me. My chiropractor set up my MRI found me a nuerologist and I needed immediate surgery. I shattered my l5 s1 disc. Basically the biggest shock absorber in your body.

[@loungydoc]

Nice, chiropractic can be very useful , but like any other field, you can have docs who are trained as good as others and hence people have a wide variety of experiences. Tons of good ones out there who practice eevicence based chiro ….

[@Brizzo200]

Disc or vertabrae?

[@omigod1186]

Now let’s discuss the treatments offered by medicine in the 1800s.... yeah, you might not wanna go there.

[@fatee5069]

They forgot about their fave... Le drugs. 😂😂😂

[@MrMilkyCoco]

To be fair it was due to those sham deadly medicines that made them regulated as eff now. People complain about modern drug medicine right now but back then they sold you straight up poison and called it a healing elixir.

[@LM-yi9su]

@@MrMilkyCoco doctors would sell u a dime bag and tell u it will cure ur broken earlobe

[@1bla1]

Medicine evolved with new evidence though

[@kennyg7163]

Thats why joe and the chick are pissed. Coz the chiropractors now especially the top college for it acknowledging his achievements which might be 100% BS instead of starting from scratch with actual research and testing. And i can understand where theyre coming from.

[@tosheatower]

I love my chiropractor - I mean why are you going to a chiropractic? Will it cure cancer? No, but it definitely helps with posture, proper muscle and bone usage.

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

tosheatower no it really does not. Any adjustments you get from a chiro is temporary at best and dangerous at worst

[@Mrraerae]

@@Giggidygiggidy12 Then why did going to the chiropractor 3 times help A LOT with my posture and neck pain? I went to a physical therapist and she gave me some great exercises which I still do every day, they definitely help. But my neck pain only completely went away after I also went to the chiropractor like 6 weeks later, and he also went in depth about which parts of my body I should focus on stretching more often so it doesn´t happen again. So going to a PT and listening to her helped, but so did going to a chiropractor and listening to him. Of course you have to follow instructions and keep taking care of yourself after a visit. Just going for an adjustment won´t do anything, just like the massage I got from the physical therapist didn´t just make the pain disappear, I had to keep doing the exercises she gave me every day, just like I had to keep doing the stretches the chiro showed me. But you can´t tell me that going to a chiro didn´t work for me because I still couldn´t really sleep that well even after 6 weeks of doing the exercises, and then I slept for 14 hours after I went to the chiro

[@redrhino3041]

No a osteopath can do that not a quakapactic

[@zachwagner9978]

The amount of times I’ve hurt my back, neck, or knees from football or weightlifting is countless. I used to ride these injuries out but then decided to go to a chiropractor. I’ve seen the evidence, my injuries were healed at tremendous rates every time. It’s not hard to pick at the idiots of a given field and portray that as the field.

[@icemachine79]

A well-trained masseuse could probably do the same thing.

[@ToofanStorm737]

It's based on bullshit and not science. If you're one of those goofy people that believes in Santa claus and religion then keep going fam but they can do lots of harm.

[@yourdedcat-qr7ln]

@@ToofanStorm737 did a chiro hurt you?

[@mupples4208]

Well there is evidence that getting more blood flow to a joint can heal the tissue faster and even grow back some wear and tear

[@ToofanStorm737]

@@yourdedcat-qr7ln Nah I'm not stupid enough to get near those quacks.

[@jagpreetsingh6728]

Joe: what excatly happens when they make the poppin sound Her: im not the best person to ask that Writes a whole article

[@isaiahcedillo9435]

I been going to a chiropractor for a year, and I love it, always puts me into a great mood and relieves my migraines. All the doctors would do is prescribe meds.

[@isaiahcedillo9435]

Some of the best athletes in sports see chiropractors than doctors.

[@scottmiles2275]

And yet you still have to go month after month. Doesn't sound like they are curing anything. You're getting a good massage and an environment that gives you the placebo effect. That's it.

[@saintjackula9615]

​@@scottmiles2275 Placebo is amazing; it is so sad that people cannot tell the difference between science and fraudulently-manipulated placebo effect.

[@isaiahcedillo9435]

Scott Miles well due to all the intense labor I put up with on a daily basis. Yea I have to go in every month to get readjusted. Meds are no different, plus the nasty side effects you can possibly get.

[@th3gov3rnm3nt]

Ah yes cracking your back can relieve migraines, that doesn't even make sense thats like getting a liver transplant and it fixes your heart arrhythmia it literally shouldn't work sorry op 10 out of 10 placebo effect here

[@seanhaarhoff3726]

I have a slipped disc in my back and have suffered terrible pain for the last 24 years, at some times it hard to even walk...if it wasn't for my chiropractor I would have put a bullet in my brain years ago. It works for me 100% no doubt.

[@juggernaut6141]

Maybe you went to a physical therapist

[@Akoura]

Said the chiropractor

[@顾孙晟]

@B. L. Exactly! More conservative treatment like physiotherapy may take months to show benefit, but there are lots of people achieved full long-term recovery from disc injuries through proper physiotherapy.

[@MMACinephile]

@@Akoura Schmuck

[@Akoura]

@@MMACinephile Are you alright? Is this all you could come up with?

[@CarlosPerez-cx3rk]

I just came back from my first chiropractor session after two years of hesitation and having a mid right side of my back pain and aches flare up at the end of every day from doing demolition. He identified the bulge on my back without asking, used some shock therapy to decrease inflammation and in one swift movement cracked the exact point causing the pain. I literally felt my disc rotate back into place. Shit took my breathe away, couldn’t help but look stupid and smile while trying to catch my breathe. The release was intense and even got my temples pulsing. 10/10 going back for a follow up.

[@leafster1337]

hows it gone?

[@jeffcarpizo03]

But according to Joe and the bad tattooed girl that’s BS!

[@edixasanchezpacheco3692]

Everything here sounded bias. Medicine doctors can also be bad doctors

[@Famousbird54]

@@jeffcarpizo03 No man, you really gotta listen to all of what they are saying. At least twice they both agreed. If they just said they can help back issues and neck issues it wouldn't be a big deal because there is some slight scientific foundation there. It's when they make wild claims for example (you don't need vaccinated because of an adjustment, will solve pancreas or other organ issues). These have no scientific backing and have been tried and studied for years without any signs of it correlating.

[@raymungo6109]

@@Famousbird54 I agree they did say that but those crazy claims aren’t what all or even a majority are claiming and the whole video is about them and therefore making the whole thing fraudulent. There are mainstream medical practitioners who do things off the rails but we won’t ever say all modern medicine is BS.

[@AnonURnot]

I had crazy back pain in high school due to a broken bed and a heavy back pack and slouching (6 feet tall and overweight) so half of my senior I spent going to a chiropractor in my city after school and it did help. I didn’t slouch any more and my lower back pain went away (it was so bad that I couldn’t even stay in my seat during class, I had to go for walks) so maybe I’m just an outlier but it worked for me. Unfortunately, the job I got after high school was labor intensive and my boss didn’t care and I didn’t know how to lift heavy stuff and I ended up throwing my back out and I have had back pain ever since. I haven’t gone to a chiropractor for it but if I had the time I would.

[@wwjccsd]

If you had seen a physical therapist who actually worked with you to fix muscle imbalances and poor posture it probably would have helped more. And as they said chiros can help with back pain but it doesn’t necessarily fix the underlying causes

[@shred12korn]

Joe "DMT CURES BACK PAIN" Rogan

[@davidflash603]

Explain please

[@ohigedid91gaming37]

David Flash oh just another unoriginal follower joke, they take up quite a lot of space in the comment section, kids who see something they think is funny so have to copy it

[@shred12korn]

Just having fun. Its just a thing because he always talks about dmt. Lighten up and have fun youll be happier. Some of these are funny af. Joe Rogan is kool af.

[@freedomaintfree49yearsago28]

Joe "and I smoked a joint" Rogan

[@Contributron]

Well given that it’s a drug and drugs have all kinds of nuanced effects on the brain, maybe it does

[@6jeremy9]

I went to physical therapy for almost 3 years for pinched nerve in my neck never did get better, had pain down my left arm from my neck to my wrist, had to lay down some days it hurts so bad. Went to a chiropractor 5 times to get adjusted all the pain stopped.

[@Eirud]

It blows my mind that these two can recognize that massage has health benefits, but then refute the potential of joint displacement, or misaligned bone structures from impacts and accidents, causing pain or bodily issues which are fixable without downing endless drugs or getting sliced up on a table.

[@mikekirchner7303]

Yup, I had my left arm tingle for three months. My chiropractor took X-rays and showed me exactly where it was pinching the nerve. After a week of it went away, and then for 5 more weeks I went back once to make sure it didn't move back. Then we took another extra and then area that was pinching was straight again. 🤷‍♂️

[@Steve197201]

jeremy r I have the same thing. Pain and numbness down my left arm. But mine started shortly after I started a chiropractic regimen for "general wellness". I was fine before I started going to the chiropractor. I switched chiropractors twice, hoping that I might get a chiro who knows what he's doing, but neither of them were able to help me. All they did was take my money.

[@6jeremy9]

@@Steve197201 they helped me, you might want to research the chiropractors you go to, also there are certain ways you shouldn't turn your neck or do certain things until 24 hours after the chiropractor has adjusted you it can just throw it back to where it was. Or go to the pain clinic they gave me some shots that helped out it numbed the pinched nerve in my neck but would wear off after a few months

[@Steve197201]

@@6jeremy9 Okay, thanks for the tip!

[@thecardboardcollaborative]

You can’t trust anyone with a musical tribal

[@gerardolopez4773]

Jason Morehouse hahahaha bro

[@realbishopvalentine]

Jason Morehouse or a tribal in general 😂

[@elleryaytch1062]

Or anyone that does a treatment invented by ghosts who told an old dude how to do it aka Chiro lol

[@Scooozy]

Benjamin Sherwood a tribal is a type of tattoo. It’s the one that goes around the arm near the shoulder.

[@Scooozy]

Benjamin Sherwood delete your comment before more people see it

[@vaidotassakalauskas3681]

8:05 Actualy pediatrics is science about infants, childrens medical care.

[@jackjohnson7396]

Good Lithuanian name for sure.

[@SarahSmilez8100]

A chiropractor helped my mother so much with her sciatica for what it's worth. I believe it took about 4 weeks and before that she was barely walking.

[@permabulk1454]

Sarah Star yea I don’t like the blatant negative rhetoric posed toward chiropractors lol. There are definitely some quacks out there but that doesn’t take away the fact that they have given me more relief than ANY “real” doctor ever has in my life lol. Can’t discount them THAT much if they’re giving you tangible results

[@permabulk1454]

Phantom Alpha wow it just shows how anecdotal they are, which inherently isn’t that great of a science you’re right. All I’m saying is there are plenty of good results from them so not to discount them entirely or claim ‘they’re all bullshit’ when clearly the ones who fix people aren’t

[@permabulk1454]

jose guzman how do we have science that says sex is a social construct?

[@previouslyachimp]

This was covered in the video, they accept that the one thing that chiropractic manipulation has the potential to do is relieve pressure from damaged nerves. It is the other outlandish claims they have a problem with. More to the point, if you need this kind of issue dealt with then there are better-trained, properly qualified physical therapists who can both fix the nerve issues and design correct exercise recovery programs to help prevent a recurrence. Certainly, the medical profession is imperfect and continually updating itself, but there are literally professionals who help people to walk again after horrific injuries and surgery. I'd rather be treated by them than someone who is poorly trained in a field with little to no evidence of its assertions.

[@lawrencedavis5459]

Sciatica due to a bulging disc or tight piriformis muscle? Either can be relived by rest and massage. Chiropractors are quacks.

[@Montauk198]

My chiro doesn't call himself a chiropractor. He tells you the truth about what he's doing which is more of sports medicine by spinal manipulation and muscle release. He is goes to the gym religiously and knows how to help relieve muscle stress and joint issues. No bs when visiting him.

[@iwatchkittenvids45]

What is "muscle release"

[@mr.marmot39]

@@iwatchkittenvids45 i think that means you release the muscle

[@iwatchkittenvids45]

@@mr.marmot39 from what?

[@mr.marmot39]

@@iwatchkittenvids45 idk im not a doctor hehe

[@Ianoxen]

@@iwatchkittenvids45 Generally when a muscle is tight (due to posture, prolonged wrong positions, or lack of conditioning) it stays contracted or is used to staying contracted thats when problems arise. By various techniques such as massage, myofascial release, or medications, you "release" the muscles therefore relaxing it or putting it back to its original or supposed state.

[@viewerone]

This is so strange to me. I’ve been to several chiropractors and never experienced any of what they claimed in this video about voodoo pushy nonsense about healing all types of ailments. That’s freaking news to me that this is somehow a thing. Here’s my usual experience. My neck is misaligned because I sit at a desk and sometimes get too tense, I go to the chiropractor, they realign my neck, I pay $40, I ice and heat the area to handle inflammation and tense muscles, I go on with my life feeling great relief. I’m in and out in 5 minutes. This usually happens 2 to 4 times a year. Anyway, if there are quack chiropractors like they mentioned in the video and you happen to find yourself in their office you should probably just leave and find a new one.

[@toddhertenstein]

Try and go in to your chiropractor and ask him to do what they say. If you go in with nexk they will "fix your neck pain" go in for vaccinations they will "fix your vaccination"

[@Tmaci777]

Yea some chiropractors are anti medicine and claim they can heal all with their chiropractic work. Those are the quacks to watch out for

[@JoseAlvarado-zd3eh]

If your chiropractor doesn’t give you exercises to heal yourself they are a quack. Which is why you go back every couple months. Your neck is “misaligned” because of bad posture. Go to to a physical therapist, do the exercises they prescribe regularly, and get a more ergonomic desk setup. Never gotta go back if you keep up with your exercises.

[@viewerone]

@@JoseAlvarado-zd3eh That's correct. I'm a flawed human.

[@jessicacharlton7347]

Neck adjustments can cause vertebral artery dissection and vertebral artery dissection causes strokes. It's really rare from what I understand but people who get regular neck adjustments instead of just one are more likely to have a stroke. I think you should look this up for yourself then you can decide if the benefit is worth the risk. It's a rare complication so you might still think it's worth it.

[@kpobje]

I love how the guy who smokes DMT and pot to help with pain and to meditate is criticizing alternative medicine

[@mikec4196]

IO think Joe has lost the narrative. Their ignorance of good chiropractors, methods they use and why, is surprising

[@blanc5599]

Interesting. At least, chiropractors that I've been to worked with radiologist or DPT. They were more helpful than general physicians who just prescribed bunch of drugs.

[@icemachine79]

You say "who just prescribed bunch of drugs" as if they just randomly picked names out of a hat. That's not how it works. Those "bunch of drugs" are designed to treat your condition(s), and it's a whole lot better than fooling around with your spine for a few minutes and declaring you "cured".

[@icemachine79]

@Mik Wri It sounds like you need to be on a few of those meds yourself. Doctors spend YEARS studying human physiology. Take your irrational conspiracy theories elsewhere.

[@pinkharmonica1312]

@@icemachine79 lmfao. Your bullshit is showing. We're going through a crisis of doctors overprescribing meds RIGHT NOW. Medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death, but no, doctors spend YEARS studying human physiology, so they can't ever be wrong. And yes, they don't pull shit out of a hat. "Oh this med didn't work? Let's try this one. Nothing? Ok, on to the next -lam, -pam, -pine." Doctors get kickbacks to prescribe meds and treatments. That's illegal? I forgot, people never do illegal things. By the way, studying human physiology for "YEARS" does not equal studying how medications effect human physiology. They don't even understand how the mechanism of action works for most of the drugs they prescribe. They do a study and find that the problem went away in 70% of the trial users and then ship it to the market. Keep drinking the kool aid. Some of those fucks don't know a damn thing they're doing, and worse, some know exactly what they're doing.

[@groundcontrol6876]

pokemonlover696969 Uuuhhh... what do opiate prescriptions have to do with Valium, which is a (pretty weak) benzodiazepine?

[@idontgotnothin]

They didn’t actually talk about anything chiropractors do.

[@agreen182]

idontgotnothin did you watch the video? Yes they did. They admit it can be effective to relieve back pain. They admit there are chiros who are good and are trying to help people. There’s also a shitload of them who are completely full of shit and are charlatans. Cannot deny that.

[@cranjismcbasketball2118]

My chiropractor gave me a blowjob... I love chiropractors

[@omartovar2688]

@@cranjismcbasketball2118 danm I have to go then

[@cranjismcbasketball2118]

@@omartovar2688 yeah she said it would make my neck feel better!

[@fadul9991]

@@cranjismcbasketball2118 he?

[@tomtaylor4051]

She’s trying so hard to be funny and joe didn’t laugh once 🤣

[@dboyagod]

She calls herself the sci-babe 🤮😂

[@gstillimsleep5391]

@@dboyagod and she more successful than yo ass. Sheeesh

[@NatronFatumallafalla]

Annoying

[@riciaschanzlin639]

@@gstillimsleep5391 she is the worst. Trying to match Joe's grating personality . yuck

[@supercam1001]

@@riciaschanzlin639 We call that bipolar lol and potentially borderline personality disorder

[@alejandrovega6842]

I also distrust doctors. I was told I needed surgery for my herniated discs with no assurance that it would actually feel better. I did my own at-home physical therapy, and I am completely pain-free. I saved thousands and thousands of dollars.

[@thewarrior8380]

Amazing!

[@DavidIknaian]

I was deadlifting and my SI joint got messed up. I stayed at home with the injury for a week not getting better at all, I was walking like I was 80 hunched over. I went to a chiro and he knew exactly what happened and fixed the issue. It was a night and day difference within seconds of him doing the adjustment. Obviously there are shitty chrio's out there but there are some out there that know what they're doing.

[@LouFiasco]

@Harris Biden lol here goes the conspiracy theory lol

[@ReapersKeeper38]

Idk I hurt my back and my chiropractor is the reason I walk properly today.

[@rarotime5555]

@Harris Biden Lol you assume. What they've said isn't wrong though...

[@johnmagnum1904]

@@LouFiasco it’s not even a theory lol it’s just a fact

[@hamidman6974]

Something that some people fail to understand is: -Lack of evidence doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't work. It could mean that it hasn't been researched yet. So if you wanna say that it doesn't work, provide some evidence that it doesn't work. For example: probably 4000 years ago, they didn't have actual studies that show that physical exercise is good for the heart etc. Now if a guy 4000 years ago, was "prescribing" physical exercise - it doesn't mean he was talking bullshit just because there was still no actual formal studies showing that physical exercise is good for the heart. Anyways, another thing is that there actually are some studies that are showing positive results from some chiropractic "treatments" for some specific conditions. Now let's listen to this girl instead who doesn't understand that a deaf person can communicate.

[@YA-ou1gl]

Empirically, and anecdotally, my chiropractor has handled 100% of the issues I've gone to him with when nothing else helped. Doctors wanted to drug me, surgeon's wanted cut me up, even massage (although helpful) only treated the symptoms. One appointment with a chiro and if was handled. I'm not saying the outrageous claims are true. I AM saying that if you don't beleive a chiro can help ever, you've never been to one.

[@brandonpickett8920]

They don’t help you. It’s in your head. It’s been scientifically proven to be BS

[@ivankrushensky]

I've never been to one. Never needed one. But most the people (if not all) that I know that go to chiros have to keep going back....and back...and back....over and over. They're not really "fixing" anything if that's the case.

[@seeqr9]

@@ivankrushensky neither do drugs. It’s simple.. lifestyle/habits create problems... problems relieved... lifestyle habits remain the same.. problems return and round and round we go. Fat guy with heart attack gets by pass... comes back with another heart attack. Cardiologist must be quacks.

[@cartooncartel6493]

@@brandonpickett8920 haha. Scientifically proven by big pharma? Give me a break and stfu

[@stevenoerlemans5414]

Chiros treat the symptoms too lmao….. that’s why you need to keep going back. At least massage helps to stretch over contracted muscles which actually treat the cause of pain.

[@Radiohead305]

I had a pinched nerve in my back and a chiropractor healed me, it was amazing.

[@Chance57]

Anecdote at best. You might have been healed, but it wasn't chiropractic that did it. Might ass well claim homeopathy can cure sickness too.

[@Radiohead305]

@@Chance57 well, It's never bothered me again and it's been about 20 years.

[@PAPOTE47]

@@Chance57 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6GxlKGDZaueiq8

[@alexg959]

Agreed minus the point that chiros do mostly physical therapy these days. Absolutely incorrect. I have worked along side both. PT training is far more intense, medically oriented, and scientifically studied than chiro. Manipulation does not equal physical therapy. PTs skills are far more targeted and proven effective. It's not just making gas precipitate out of joints and hearing pops with a microphone on a girl in leggings and a crop top.

[@ralphM1114]

I'm a licensed physician (Emergency medicine) . The thing with chiropractors is that around half of what they say and do is based on sound medical science. The problem is that the rest of what they say and do is basically bullshit. Popping your neck and back? Healing metabolic and chronic cardiovascular ailments through joint manipulation? Utter kookery. Everything the "annoying" woman said is true. The fact that she annoys you does not invalidate the truth in her statements.

[@kali7906]

So why do people feel so much better after getting aligned or having things adjusted? Is that the 50% that you are referring to?

[@IndigoBass]

Kookla Mu The placebo effect is stronger than people realise

[@kali7906]

Indigo Bass the placebo effect is one thing... but when you have chronic pain due to bones and joints it’s kind of hard to imagine that away.

[@IndigoBass]

Kookla Mu. It’s really not that surprisingly, remember that religious people can be freed of chronic pain when they’re told that God is healing them, the placebo effect is surprisingly strong

[@kali7906]

Indigo Bass I don’t believe that. They may feel the pain go away temporarily after they have been “healed” but it will eventually come back. I threw my neck out dancing onstage once. I couldn’t even turn my head to the right. It was completely locked. A chiropractor cracked it, and I got back my full range of motion immediately. That’s not a placebo effect. You can’t do something like hammer a nail into a piece of wood and say that it happened because of belief.

[@simonriddick]

I'm a painter and my right side is usually a mess. For a long time I had the worst pain and was taking those 800mg liquid gels. My neck on the right side was like I had a swollen knot and it would never release. My lower back hurt on the right side and was also sore and swollen and my leg had sciatic pain all the way down the leg. The pain was squeezing tears out of my eyes. I eventually had enough and tried a chiropractor. I only went a week and he 100% fixed me. I had some kind of a pinched nerve. He used to crack my spine up high between my shoulder blades that used to hurt the first few times. He also did my hips and neck. I haven't been back for a year now and haven't had the pain return and we still work our asses off on the line.

[@simonriddick]

@bo bo My last disc that is closest to the tailbone was being pinched he showed me on the x ray. When I was in my teens got in a scuffle a guy kicked my legs out from under me and I fell ass first onto the concrete. That hurt for a long time and I think that contributed to my later pain plus my slouching. I'm 6'2 and always had bad posture. Maybe some type of soft tissue rehab could fix it too but he fixed it just the same so it can't be said that it doesn't work. I think Joe is way off here just like he was way off when he said the Whopper isn't a good burger lol. Joe the shill! Hehe.

[@simonriddick]

@bo bo good that they fixed it up. I was gonna say it's probably good to go for a tune up now and again but not all the time. For me anyways and some co workers do the same tune ups.

[@simonriddick]

@@blueshirt1619 He knew that you had the shits eh?. May the old man rip.

[@simonriddick]

@@blueshirt1619 little bit of splatter on your blue shirt :(.

[@Airic]

no massage therapy was apart of that treatment though?

[@leenovich]

In the 1800s, barbers were surgeons and the medical field was a complete chaos with pretty much no scientific background. MDs were drilling holes in skulls to treat headaches. Chiropractic was developed out of that chaos cause people were taking “medicine” that would literally kill them, and yet somehow were deemed as “medical treatments”. Claims are claims and results are results. You’re gonna tell someone that went through a life changing experience that chiropractic doesn’t work? Good luck with that. Just like any other profession, there are some amazing chiropractors and some bad ones. Find a good one. The level of professional and medical knowledge taught at chiropractic schools are behemoth. This woman doesn’t know shit.

[@LesterBrunt]

There are countless people who swear a priest asked God to take away their pains and instantly they were better. So therefor priest and faith healing is legit? Come on brah.....

[@leenovich]

Lester Brunt bruh you see how both you and this lady assume that chiropractors don’t go through the necessary educational process? Who says? Graduating from a chiropractic school takes AT LEAST 3 years. What do you think people learn during that time? Not only most schools provide 9 months of continuous human cadaver dissection, but a BUNCH of medical science is taught ranging from clinical laboratory skills, clinical pathology, pharmacology, bone pathology, etc, and in the state of Oregon, you can even take electives to perform minor surgeries with your chiro license. They are exceptionally trained to distinguish between conditions that they can treat and conditions that need to be treated by other medical professionals. Do priests have a scientific/medical background to treat patients? No. Do chiropractors? Abso-fucking-lutely.

[@LesterBrunt]

@@leenovich So why aren't they physical therapists?

[@leenovich]

Lester Brunt my guy, those are two different degrees, two different licenses, two different governing boards advocating for their own profession. The biggest different between a PT and a DC (chiropractor), although laws can differ state by state, is that DCs can “adjust” people which means they are able to apply physical impulse to move restricted joints. There is real science behind that “crack” my guy. Both DCs and PTs have comparable knowledge to one another. DCs can easily replace your PTs role as a rehab specialist, but also your awesome PT can be just as effective when it comes to the treatment of musculoskeletal systems. But when it comes to the spine, and I’m not talking about spinal surgery or procedures that MDs do and are trained to do, I’m talking about mechanical problems that can arise from lifestyle, habits, sports injuries, etc, no one tops DCs. That’s just facts. I hope this clears some of your misconceptions and if you’re having back problems, find a good chiropractor!

[@vermin5367]

@@leenovich literally the only sensible dude here thats educated, thanks for putting all of this into words so I don't have to.

[@vincenzoa2929]

My chiropractor is amazing and has relieved lower back pain and neck pain so I’m good with his care.

[@TheJakecakes]

I like mine too

[@molleywood]

I had severe headaches and I really thought I was dying so I had an mri and it turned out negative for any problems. My family doctor suggested I see a chiropractor to my surprise so I did and BOOM ... never had a headache since

[@aidan6623]

Simply a consequence

[@Joenimitz48652]

Aidan Brynjelsen im not taking sides here but there is 0% you can tell if that is “simply consequence”...weird you can be so sure with no evidence of anything about this person at all lol

[@amihere383]

Tension headaches are a thing, your muscles reach way up your skull and everything is connected so having severe muscle tension could reasonably cause headaches in my opinion

[@Qvolepues]

Same thing happened to my mother. Her migraines were bad enough where she would make her room completely dark and put her pillow over her head. One adjustment and they were gone. That was 20 years ago.

[@Famousbird54]

I have had this before. I can be prone to migraines and sometimes they do not go away. When the neck or upper back is out it can put pressure on the nerves and cause muscles to not rest correctly. This can cause tension in the lower head/neck area and cause irritation with the nerves in the neck. I have a father who is a D.O. and he would check my spine before giving me a message and adjustment. When pressure is relieved from that area it can allow the body to get out of the loop of having a headache/migraine.

[@mindcontrol1973]

I completely disagree with Chiropractic care being BS. I’ve had clear evidence night and day pain relief. I used to play top tier soccer and had a back so tight I was living in constant pain for years. Then a chiropractor did a compression and I was in tears that my pain had simply vanished. Gone. I felt renewed. I could sleep better, sit better, better sex, better mood, better everything. Then I injured myself at my construction job so much so I could barely walk and my lower back was hot and swollen. A chiropractor popped my back I could feel fluid buildup dissipate and my back became very sore but relaxed. Soon after a few weeks I began to recover. Chiropractic care is legitimate. They are able to pop spinal bones back into place deal with knots, muscle massage, and focus on deep scar tissue to help with severe pain in order to restore flexibility and movement. I have yet to hear a chiropractor mention supplements, or say that a spinal correction cured cancer or measles. I do know that without my doctor mentioning it I noticed my constipation was relieved because I was more relaxed and flexible so that I could get into a more relaxed position for bowel movement. I believe pain and stiffness and rigid biomechanics Can have an effect on your overall physiology. It doesn’t take a Doctor to notice these results. And the results are freaking NIGHT AND DAY. One year pain, next day NO PAIN. I repeat NO PAIN. To say something that had such apparent results is bs is just scoff worthy. I’ve been to several physical therapist. They were great gave me stretches to do and tried certain stretching. But my chiropractors I’ve been to just attacked the source of my pain. They investigated and narrowed down the possible issues to the source of my pain and just attacked. They just know where you are tender and pained and give you relief and increased movement from one day to the next. I don’t go to a chiropractor every week or every month. No I go once and maybe a follow up and it’s over i get my life back. Doctors prescribe you stuff to treat the symptoms chiropractors attack the source and you are cured and never see them again. That’s how it should be.

[@hodb3906]

itzkevino “evidence”, is something you don’t say when it comes to methods of medical treatment, whether you twist or turn, whether your pain is fixed. Chiropractory is pseudoscience. You should go to physiotherapists, orthopedists, osteopaths. People with medical training. People who have the right to call themselves doctors. I went to a physiotherapist to help with lower back pain. Turns out my lumbar (L2 and L1) vertebrae were not properly aligned. Yes he did corrected it like a chiropractor would do. But then i had to do extensive core stability training to strengthen my abdomens. My abdomens were weak and back muscles were tight making my lumbar vertebrae displace. Another problem these people have is that when they do have some sort of medical training as physiotherapist for example, they open their own practice as a chiropractor while at the same time keeping a doctor title. The title you retain don’t cohere with your practices and therefore can be seen as fraud and a mis-use of your title. And as a med-student myself this thoroughly displeases me. These problems should be seen by medical specialist. Not some wackjob who offers quick fixes. As you know. The relief of pressure built in joint stimulates the release of endorphins which gives you that euphoric feeling. I encourage you, don’t fall for this bullshit no matter the impact it has on you.

[@mindcontrol1973]

HODB it’s hard to listen to the recommendation to see more legitimate medical doctors when I’m already cured of my pain. I don’t go to doctors or chiropractors I’m healthy and fully functional I have no need. I’ve been sent to physical therapy by my work after lifting heavy objects for months. Stretching and core workouts that I could already do on my own was the gist of it but i took it just as motivation to keep in shape. Conventional wisdom would see this as a better recommendation but I wouldn’t. Unless I find some kind of evidence that these successful chiropractors are incompetent by default due to their not being doctors I don’t see a reason to shy away from treatment. I can understand that there are bad chiropractic professionals that cause more damage than good and can severely injure someone but I believe the same could be said for all medical professionals that’s why malpractice insurance exist. Also I’d like to mention I’ve always dealt with chiropractors who firstly do an x-ray then use a gadget to check for bulges that looks like a meter of some sort and lastly probes for subluxations. They too have mentioned things such as L1 L2. I don’t know if that provides any evidence of proper procedure since you are in the medical field. But I will be doing a bit of research into osteopathic care.

[@lukedenke2412]

BODH you don’t have to be an M.D to have the title “doctor” Idk why that’s the hardest thing for medical students to understand

[@ikyabwai]

Just commenting to let you know I didn't read your little story. Way too long. Thanks!

[@dingdong8473]

I was a bricklayer for 25 years.. for the last 12 years I've had moderate to excruciating lower back pain. Been to WAY TOO MANY physios and masseurs and they have only given temporary relief. A workmate recommended his chiro and after 8 visits I feel awesome! I highly recommend " Gonstead chiropractic"!

[@martinhudobivnik5895]

Of course you do

[@williammunny6061]

Ding Dong cool story. Where did you get your “doctorate” in chiropractic therapy?

[@dingdong8473]

@@williammunny6061 I don't have one..that's why I wasted so much time and money on physios.. glad someone pointed me in the right direction - To a chiropractor...

[@innit1407]

I suffered with a severe neck pain a few years ago. I couldn't even sleep lying down, had to upright on the couch. Tried lots of painkillers, visit to the doctor, x-ray etc. Nothing helped. One visit to a local chiropractor, I was sorted. Slept in my bed that night.

[@stinkmonger]

notice how physical therapy wasn't in that list

[@linkhero60]

I think this lady had her heart broken by a chiropractor lol

[@sillyfarmerbilly8872]

Nailed it 😂

[@Colormeimpressed3000]

Hahaaa serious

[@marie_84]

More like a broken head..

[@ivankrushensky]

9:37 Rogan is confusing the degree "Doctor"/"Doctorate" with a specific degree, "M.D." There are "doctors" of all kinds.

[@terminatorgir]

Chiropractors are still not doctors

[@ivankrushensky]

@@terminatorgir the degree is Doctor of Chiropractic.... no matter how worthless you or I think they are. And I think they are worthless as well. There are probably PhDs in gender studies. Those people would still be doctors. It's a degree. Doesn't have anything to do with medicine or Healthcare.

[@theepeopleswarrior]

@@ivankrushensky I think a lot of the manipulations derive from osteopathic manipulation in general which is older then chiropractics

[@gpcivil8807]

I don’t think he is confused, chiropractors are not medical doctors nor do they a have PhD.

[@ivankrushensky]

@@gpcivil8807 no one said Chiros are medical doctors, or have PhDs. There are other doctorate degrees that do not fit into the MD or PhD category. It is not a requirement to be one of those two to have a doctorate degree.

[@mr.puffballmansick-stee-ne7749]

I visited a chiropractor twice after my right shoulder shifted 2 inches lower than my left in a work accident. He explained exactly what was wrong and what he was doing to fix it, now I’m good

[@Okilian_tv]

If your shoulder shifted 2 inches down.. you have a dislocated shoulder and need to see a real doctor. You were scammed.

[@mr.puffballmansick-stee-ne7749]

@@Okilian_tv actually I gave myself a scoliosis, twisted my pelvis, knotted my lat and pulled my trap. My chiro did a lot of deep tissue massage and small adjustments and years later I have no noticeable effects from the incident. Without aide I would certainly by now have serious problems.

[@SuperFriday]

Chiropractic care is NOT BS. What the hell

[@MLBGAMER1]

Sorry but a chiropractor helped my old man walk again after "doctors" had him drugged out for years in pain.

[@peteo4454]

Was he ever prescribed physical therapy by the doctor?

[@MLBGAMER1]

@@peteo4454 - Nope, meds and future back surgery. His spine was jacked up and needed decompression and lower back adjustments. His core / back muscles were exhausted after years of tightening in order to compensate. That's all gone now because of a chiropractor not an MD.

[@TheNade]

@@MLBGAMER1 I suspect Lou is a chiropractor and his dad is made up.

[@chefaaron77]

Debunking chiro because of a story from the 1800s?? Shall we talk about medical quackery through the ages?

[@Adam-dn5oc]

You're right, it's a sham argument. A lot of them have unhealthy skepticism. Rather than looking at Chiropracty with any sort of objectiveness, they'd rather foam at the mouth with rage because they aren't selling enough Opioids haha. They claim Chiros claim to heal every ailment under the sun when in fact they do not. All you'll hear is strawman arguments.

[@Adam-dn5oc]

@Janusha "if it was medical or science, then it would be done by doctors and scientists. Not by quacks." I believe you're missing his/her/xe's point entirely. Geocentrism was once a widely accepted model. Heliocentrism? Hah, you must be a quack! No further discussion needed, right? Science isn't static. I get that "quack" is your favorite go-to buzzword, but lets be a little less subjective, shall we?

[@Adam-dn5oc]

@Janusha You sound like a duck, please stop talking. Again, science isn't static. Which is the point he is making. Get your head out of your ass, buddy.

[@LancesArmorStriking]

@@Adam-dn5oc The cracking of knuckles and/or joints releases bubbles of nitrogen from between the joints. They often quickly reform (which is why you're able to crack your knuckles more than once in your life.) How exactly does going to a 'professional' to crack your joints relieve pain?

[@Adam-dn5oc]

You can crack your knuckles more than once in your lifetime? Woah, I was under the assumption if you were to try it a second time they'd become necrotic/gangrenous and simply fall off. Thank you for the insight. You are truly a scholar. By the way, did you know the sky is blue? "How exactly does going to a 'professional' to crack your joints relieve pain?" Popping/cracking your joints can provide relief by relaxing muscles and improving range of motion. Some people cannot manipulate these joints by themselves so they seek a second person to aid them, namely, chiropractors. It's really not that hard to understand. Are you really that dense or just pretend to be retarded?

[@richardgriego42]

For the first time in a long time I finally worked a full week with no pain. No meds no shots just a weekly adjustment and rehabilitation exercises with the nursing staff.

[@kennethgrimes9961]

If you listen long enough a person will always reveal themselves to you. The guest said she went to a specific specialist and her back was killing her she needed a manipulation only to find out she had a broken rib. If this story is true then the question becomes what type of expert is she to not be able to recognize that she had an injury like that ? She basically disqualified herself right there.

[@jxknight1980]

Exactly. Lol

[@mykibalzy]

Joe "if Jamie pulls it up it's true" Rogan

[@Knockanl1wj]

👏

[@mikederkonig]

😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@wuwei43]

Exactly

[@Cottam89]

👏👏👏

[@georgeyoung1810]

I never trust such one sided conversations

[@7ngel]

Thank you.

[@heyllo1337]

Especially when you have someone who is part of a society who actually is chrio's mortal enemy ever since the chrio's called them out on their bullshit.

[@k8yfeld]

I've worked in neurosurgery doing primarily spine surgery for 10 years. There are a lot of good chiropractors who practice a broad array of techniques that help people manage pain and in the world of back pain there are not always simple solutions for people who are desperate to try any reasonable option. In general, I remain chiropractor friendly and wouldn't tell my patient's not to see one if it's helping. However, I've also seen the terrifying consequences of traditional cervical spine manipulations causing major strokes in otherwise young healthy people---recommend avoidance of traditional manipulations---especially in the neck. Chiropractic therapy has grown to the magnitude it has due to #1 how common back pain is, and . #2 most medical doctors have historically blown back pain off. One of the first things you're taught about back pain in school is how inconsistent imaging and clinical symptoms are with clinical complaints and how difficult it can be to actually identify the source of back pain to focus a therapy on... this frustrates doctors and many just stop listening and chalk it up to the patient wanting pain meds.. This mindset is improving over the past 20-30 years with advancements in surgical techniques and troubleshooting pain procedures, but still a big issue.

[@brid0777]

Cant see the pro overall

[@basbllhro03]

A few months back I started to notice a numbing/tingelling sorta pain run down my leg that started at the knee until it reached my foot which would then cause my foot to go numb. This only happened when I was standing for more than 45 mins but it quickly got worse until it only took roughly 15 mins till I could feel the pain coming on. I squat down in a catcher's positions or if i sit, then I would feel INSTANT relief. I went to a regular doctor and he didnt do anything other than listen to what I had to say and to do stretches. Obviously it didnt help. So I went to a chiropractor and they immediately gave me xrays and checked all my range of motion. Based on my xrays, it turns out my pelvis was shifted slightly and was causing my tailbone to push on a nerve in my spine thus causing the numbing pain in my leg. I got 20 adjustments. These adjustments were only performed on the problem area of my back and never once was I told that I would be immediately cured. That it was a slow process. Each adjustment my pelvis and tailbone would start to straighten up and relieve pressure off the nerve. 2 steps forward when getting an adjustment, 1 step back on the days in between adjustments. They also only performed adjustments that would directly help move my pelvis back into place. I also was instructed to do certain back stretches while at home. After the 19th adjustment I no longer had the leg pain when I stand but I was told that it could very well come back even though my follow up xrays showed my pelvis being straight and narrow. I understand what joe is saying but not all chiropractors are con artists posing as doctors. My chiropractor never once "cracked" my back and said I was going to be better from now on. It was always slow adjustments of the spine mixed with physical therapy and never once did I hear my back pop during adjustments. Their are definitely snake oil salesmen out there just trying to scam you but some are real doctors that actually help people with spinal issues. It's not ALL bullshit.

[@edwinleahy]

Great comment

[@okieking8503]

I had brutal back pain all my life. My chiropractor didn't just pop my back. She'd dig into my muscles, stretch me as well as adjust. It's comprehensive. I don't believe just cracking bones will help but that lady alleviated my pain.

[@groovy56]

There is a science and highly skilled art to what you refer to as; "cracking bones" It is called Spinal Manipulation and is scientifically proven to be quite therapeutic on it's own.

[@FormaAlert]

@@groovy56 There really isn’t beyond anything a massage/physical therapist could do besides placebo. Unless you mean triggering locked-in-syndrome lmao

[@ryancasey3914]

What if I told you that you can fix most of your health problems by eating whole foods and exercising.

[@noahokayama3825]

Ryan Casey spinal realignment isn’t among those things to be fair

[@erinjay8431]

Fasting is the best to cure a myriad of problems!

[@jonathankulesa]

That... and DMT... lol...

[@swampy1234]

@@erinjay8431 oh Plz get off the hype

[@ryancasey3914]

@404 Error Not Found whole bottle of vodka

[@j.rogercavanaugh3971]

Had a fusion l4-l5. Afterwards, living hell for 1.5 years. Went to a chiropractor and in one visit, “pop”, and no more pain. I owe him my life, cause I was thinking about taking it!

[@patrickachille3529]

Says the fake ass Karate Pink Belt

Having your back cracked after a spinal fusion is really risky. If one of those metal parts fusing your vertebrae together had popped out you'd be in a world of shit.

[@zekeo420]

J. Roger Cavanaugh taking ur life lol so many people going thru worse in their life and they are struggling along suck it up

[@duffhammer6125]

Matthew Velasquez u haven’t been in real pain you can’t suck it up, no one ends their life if they could suck it up they would, ur truly a disrespectful idiot

[@ericrankin4666]

Matthew Velasquez you've obviously never had ongoing debilitating nerve pain with no hope in sight. Especially at a young age and for an athlete.

[@jmoo876]

No one should be taking a stand up comic and a science blogger who are both always high medical advice seriously

[@lybrty7272]

Yes!! Many times JR is just shooting the breeze.

[@Will-tm5bj]

Are you a chiropractor?

[@jmoo876]

Will Scrudato No, I just don’t get my medical advice from a stand up comic and a “science” blogger. I go to real doctors for their opinions.

[@wveganertwitter1311]

Will Scrudato had surgery myself, numb leg before, lws its called in german, guess what finally made the pain go away

[@7ampontarly748]

Well to be honest yeah, but they probably have about the same qualifications to give medical advice as a chiropractor.

[@nofox777]

I'm usually a huge skeptic but I've had amazing luck with my chiro.

[@raidermaxx2324]

thats exactly what it is, luck. You are just lucky you havent been injured or killed

[@13dhubbard]

Chiropractor got me walking after an accident, and got rid of my sciatic nerve problems. Definitely helped here!

[@ToofanStorm737]

Lol bullshit It's scientifically proven to be bullshit. Chiropractor do more harm than good.

[@musashi939]

Might as well healed by itself. Funny thing is here in Europe) Germany /Austria) chiropractor means something subtlety different. Afair it is not complete bullshit like in USA, it's only 30ish% bs.

[@calt6034]

Same. I had sciatica for years, took 3 weeks of treatment, and had no more back pain. After years of agony. Chiropractic techniques work. Period. Don't care how it was invented....it saved my life.

[@BB-re6nz]

K BinSaud You’re an idiot.

[@Michijere77]

So years ago, I started having trouble with my neck and it got worse and worse as tine went along. I went to a doctor, got scans, and was told I has severe traction and would need to wear a weird neck brace and may have to have surgery. Neck surgery. Went to a chiropractor and got adjusted. It was like a miracle. Massive relief and never had a problem since. I’m a believer.

[@kkdoc7864]

Michijere77 Really wanting to know what your MRI interpretation was.

[@bellmeisterful]

How did you injure your neck in the first place?

[@Michijere77]

Missed a few messages here. Sorry, it’s been nuts. For the first inquiry, I’ll try and look it up. I was quite a few years back now. Maybe 2011 or 2013 range. It would be just before my chiropractor appointment, so I can call them and try and get that date and work from there. The usual steps with any dr or specialist visit is he explains things, we get some paperwork and my wife put it in layman’s terms for me. What they told me was a form of bad traction. I do remember being in the office for initial exams and mildly turning my head various ways and when he gently pulled up from cupping both sides of my head below the ears, it felt much better. I’ll see what I can find As for the second question, I don’t know. I was physically active, but had a desk job and one day I woke up with a bad kink and it just got worse from there. After some weeks, I could barely stand it and didn’t want to move. I will say this. I am no medical expert, I am not saying that chiropractic can cure hearing loss or any other issues, but after this initial meeting, which I was hesitant to go to, the chiropractor took xrays (not the same thing the actual physician ordered, I know) and had me back, gave a brief explanation, had me lay on a table that had these collapsible sections and cranked my head a few ways. It was quick, loud, a bit worrying to be honest, but afterwards I felt eons better. Still sore and I didn’t have full range of motion. The next day it got even better. I came back for a recheck, where they suggested coming back on the regular, but I didn’t. My wife hates the chiropractor and never goes but once as well. After having our third child, she had siatic (so?) pain that was unbearable and was put on meds for it, along with regiments of ice and stretching. It helped her take the edge off, but was still in lots of pain. She reluctantly went and got adjusted and felt relief as well. No more meds. She still stretches on the regular now tho. I do t know what to say, and I’m sure they aren’t all the same, but I am more than thankful to have gone in.

[@kkdoc7864]

Michijere77 I absolutely agree that there is a place for chiropractic adjustment, and that is coming from an ER doc who is not fond of many alternative medicine ideas. If you had any MRI results showing a dislocation or disc nerve impingement with symptoms in your arms, that would be the only indication for a specialist to recommend neck surgery. If those tests weren’t done then perhaps he was just saying that you “might” need it pending test results. What you describe (if no anatomical emergency) sounds exactly like the severe spasms one can get sleeping the wrong way or whiplash injuries. I think those instances are perfect for a chiropractor because the only thing ortho guys offer is ice, pain meds and muscle relaxants. And the latter options are definitely not as effective.

[@zacharystubler750]

I wanna jump in on this as kk doc said exactly what happened to me. I slept just woke up and my head wouldn't lift with out alot of pain and turning my head the wrong way extreme pain down to my fingertips. Saw my pcp and heres some codine 3s and relax. Ended up seeing chiro couple days later and while they tried my body was too tense and didn't charge me for the visit (except the xrays), and sense they couldn't give meds i ended up going back to pcp. She was less than thrilled to hear i went to a chiro and requested the xrays and actually checked my neck and shoulder. so then prescribed 6 weeks of 3 days of massage and heat therapy with some muscle relaxers and vicodin as my muscle in my shoulder spasmed pretty bad i guess and said a pinched nerve. at $120 a vist at the therapy, i was like screw this after a week and went back to the chro. With not spasming (on the relaxers) there was a really loud crack follow by a instant loud yell from me and literal instant relief and could move my head. Literally cost me 30 bucks for 15 mins and worked. Looking back if the doctor didn't have a pissing match and the chiro was able to just give me the muscle relaxer i would have saved almost 3 weeks of misery AND 1000 bucks out of my pocket.

[@agoogleuser6902]

She doesn't think deaf people can communicate! LOL LOL LOL

[@TruePartyKing]

A Google User because all deaf people are also illiterate haha

[@elijahrobinson4650]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Holy shit. What a dumbass.

[@johnnydelatorre5766]

Lmfao no literally cus I'm deaf but you know what I mean.

[@TontoEpstein]

That's not what she said. Maybe you're deaf? Regardless, she babbled about a deaf patient being unable to give informed consent. But what she said is based on her assumption the relationship was just verbal as opposed to what we have today, which is everything is done in writing. You read some papers or a digital screen that tells you the possible risks, and then you sign it.

[@kialeeendsley9496]

She may be a quack job as well.....

[@arturotroncoso3484]

I know a chiropractor and she said that there are two kinds of people in her field. The ones who want to fix your back aches. Then there's a people who think everything that goes wrong with the body is because your back isn't aligned properly.

[@kdeets51]

Totally agreed. Chiropractic can totally help with your pinched nerve, but it probably won’t help your irritable bowel syndrome.