Joe Rogan on the Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship

Taken from JRE MMA Show #61: • Video

[@gswdeclan]

That bareknuckle guy makes Dana White looks classy and ethical.

[@kams912]

Comment paid for by Dana White

[@kams912]

Look

[@infiddle_8810]

Yeah he's fuckin lovin this shit rn..

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

Yup, sir, Don King called, says he wants his polyester pimpsuit back . Bareknuckles- is it going too far ? Is it okay if fighters are left with lifelong, permanent injuries ? Or is the gritty equivalent of a prison yard brawl your thing ?

[@aintfromrounhere8099]

LD51 nobody in ufc is using roids anymore they check for that

[@dannyc4070]

That bare knuckle owner needs to get in the ring

[@topshelf6792]

He need to go to jail

[@kenfoust45]

say what bare knuckles is for real street fighters brawlers Real men real women etc. I’d do it if I had the money to support myself after getting my brains knocked in but need them so can’t 🤣

[@salt-ernativemedia1018]

He's playing the role of a promoter, the promoter is supposed to be hated especially by the fighters, he's the "boss". Dana White recently denied someone a UFC contract saying he wasn't happy the guy went for a takedown with 10secs left in the fight b/c it wasn't exciting or he wasn't fighting hard enough. That same fighter that was denied a contract for "not fighting hard enough or not exciting enough" posted himself pissing blood on social media.

[@danbarnes7307]

Owner is an ex fighter

[@dougcarter1924]

Joe BLOWS HOBOS FOR A LIVING.

[@crazykhespar8487]

"You fight or you dont get paid"- Someone who hasn't been punched in the mouth, yet.

[@BKFC]

Unfortunately he has, many times lol.

[@ethangarland8034]

Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship shut the fuck up why are you here

[@JimmyClose]

Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship prove it you little bitch

[@Brakish33]

@@ethangarland8034 LMAO!! "This video and comment are talking about you, why the FUCK are you commenting?!"

[@DLoading1477]

Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship no one asked fuck outa here

[@senseirazor737]

Fight still wasn't half as intense as the "The Human Spider vs. Bone Saw" cage match

[@goobersongoofy]

that fight slapped harder then my grandpa before open heart surgery

[@decespugliatorenucleare3780]

that was the real shit bruv

[@Elena-yv6cx]

B o n e s a w i s r e a d y

[@arthurdaley895]

I gotcha for 3 minutes! 3 minutes of play tiimmmmmmee

[@theengineer9910]

Lololololololololol

[@shabushabu5319]

Bare knuckle box with an elk while high on DMT then we'll talk Seth Rogan

[@atgarza1101]

Misunderstood Bean best comment of 2019

[@chrisrodriguez5934]

😂🤣🤣

[@tm0675]

@@dntwasteit8547 whos Krispin wah?

[@Skrambo92]

Lmao

[@MagnificoGiganticus]

You might be an Understood Bean if you used punctuation.

[@Kookko94]

How about airsoft with real weapons

[@atgarza1101]

Kookko you mean war?

[@jakewes6642]

Right?!

[@autumn3956]

Exactly tho

[@chancehoblak6086]

They actually have that with paint balls in real shells

[@samuelmcdonagh1590]

Chance Hoblak so, still not real bullets

[@mutungprimu670]

It’s weird seeing Herb not wearing full black and rubber gloves

[@Mitutumuch]

I KNEW THIS GUY WAS FAMILIAR HES A REF AINT HE

[@mutungprimu670]

@@Mitutumuch yeah

[@splatninja9447]

It took me a minute to recognize him too.

[@tristannolan85]

@@Mitutumuch if you think thats weird look up a couple of his fights

[@josh19231]

@@tristannolan85 you just broke my brain

[@picasokaufmen9250]

Ok, no rounds, no time limit no one leaves the ring until someone's dead.

[@Pedro_Kantor]

Referee will be Mario Yamasaki.

[@rmhj01]

I'd pay money to see that, hell we already got one big arena for it - The Roman Colosseums

[@darrenbetts2987]

The old time boxing matches were pretty much that bar the dying.

[@maltheri9833]

@@Pedro_Kantor Whoever wins gets shot by Mario

[@nihad9054]

@@Pedro_Kantor why the referee?

[@Jex2112]

Those post fight pics looks like they got attacked by bears.

[@jonpaul6948]

True, but better the damage on the outside than traumatic brain injury.

[@nottheoriginalhandle]

jon paul they got both

[@kekarthurthebastard226]

AmCoolDude Yeah incorrect. Gloves protect the punchers hands most of all. Try punching a coconut ready hard for 15 minutes.

[@nottheoriginalhandle]

Kek Arthur The Bastard what the fuck are you talking about

[@godlikemachine645]

@@nottheoriginalhandle what he is saying is that if you hit the front of a human skull with your bare hand, your hand breaks, guys skull is fine, no concussion. Unlike when you wear a glove, your hand is fine, guy gets a concussion. Cuts and broken hands can heal, but a concussion?

[@jameshart264]

Herb Dean is a legend, he has saved alot of fighters from permanent damage. Yeah he has made some questionable calls, but when a fighters life is in your hands you tend to always go with your gut, and he has done enough fights to know better than you and me

[@qanon1286]

Amen

[@violent_bebop9687]

Yep, fighter safety

[@BeauTylerMakesMusic]

As much as you hate to see it, it’s always better to call it too early than too late. We all want to be entertained, but not at that great of an expense. Herb has saved years of more people’s lives than some doctors. Lol

[@classydays43]

Just let them kill each other. You know they want to do it, everyone wants to see it happen, anyway.

[@nou-lu8hz]

@UCeb_WUVIKGagV2UiGT7MQMQ what the actual fuck is wrong with you you sick fuck, the fighters don't wanna fucking hurt eachother and noone wants to see that, fighting is just a job to many of them and they rely on the ref to keep the other fighter and themselves safe. Every fighter has a family and friends that would miss them. If you want to see people get killed, go to a psychologist, you've been watching too many movies.

[@thc_saiyan2612]

Herb looks like a ref in and out the ring

[@John14-6...]

Love how Herb Dean expressed not giving in to pressure of not being who he is

[@codyking7520]

Too brutal it will never catch on with the public. Heard that before somewhere.

[@BKFC]

Disagree

[@buffhuck]

@@BKFC......if they had fighters under the age of fifty it might be entertaining...

[@MasterChief773]

It’s messed up to take their money. How can you legitimately justify that? It makes your company look really bad.

[@MasterChief773]

Cody King Aren’t you referencing how people used to talk about the UFC and now it’s mainstream?

[@BrazenBullXXX]

​@@BKFC If Bare Knuckle would have caught on it would have happened already. We saw what happened to past bare knuckle organizations. Casual viewers don't tune in or show up, there is a lack of fighters, fighter longevity is low, and the purse isn't ever worth it. Stop trying to wake the dead.

[@DM71]

Good lord. You could blindfold Joe Rogan with dental floss in this clip.

[@BKFC]

lol

[@Dan-lg4bs]

Hahahahahahaha

[@MMA_Ruskie]

Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship bruh youre watching this why don’t you comment on what he’s saying

[@christowers7307]

@@MMA_Ruskie ah yes, there will be no unrelated comments. Boo creativity! Do you live in a country without free speech?

[@josearteaga9667]

😫🤣😫😫😫🤣🤣 I was having a horrible day and this comment just made me crack up god bless

[@defeatignorance8681]

There's a reason they have to DROP THE GLOVES in a hockey fight. Gloves add weight and lead to the blow covering a much larger area on the head, which means the brain is getting slammed harder than with a bare fist. Bare fists lead to more damage to the tissue but less damage to the brain. Add to all of this that gloves protect the hands and you have a fighter willing to put everything behind his punch because the threat of serious damage to the hands is mitigated. Yes, bare knuckle fighting leads to more lacerations, but I'd rather have a few cuts on my face than a concussion, brain bleed or CTE at a young age.

[@haydenjansen2224]

Lol that's not why they drop the gloves in hockey. Hockey gloves are built significantly different to gloves used in fighting the only point of them is to protect your hands from sticks. They drop them becuase the gloves are a hindrance in a fight and you cant properly punch someone. Hockey fights is all together a bad comparison to professional fights though as the main goal is to get the other guy to the ice rather than fully knock him out due to risks of heads hitting the ice etc plus in like 95% of them only 2 or 3 punches land square the rest are typically glancing blows or miss all together. That being said I dont watch any fights other than hockey so could be totally wrong about the differences.

[@reinaldocaraballo4657]

No dude no offense bro but it's obvious you've never been in a real fight. No gloves is stupid in so many ways a little education goes a long way. Pettis broke both hands in the first few minutes of his fight completely absurd.

[@ferumcastrum4097]

@@reinaldocaraballo4657 that’s just improper technique because of reliance on gloves, and lack of conditioning that’s where pugilism and bare knuckle boxing shine they actually know how to throw proper punches cause if they don’t theyre hands get fecked.

[@TenThumbsProductions]

Where is the cast of Sandlot now? *Yeah Yeah is a referee in UFC now*

[@Lup3zflyn3zz]

Squints was in Logics music video

[@Thor-Orion]

But where is the Rocket?! He’s the best beast of the backyard:

[@lucycoldeine6371]

Yeah yeah is a bitch

[@RyFol717]

Huh??

[@jackellzey3304]

@@lucycoldeine6371 did im

[@ArsenicCriminal]

Bring back the collaseum and throw some gladiators in the ring

[@Herondinho]

Would be fucking mental to see dudes with spears, axes and swords taking on Tigers n shit😂

[@silvertonjersey4177]

They have leagues already I forget K something KZbin K medival

[@WWeRockFan1001]

guy heron i guarantee with the right amount of money people would do it....I reckon people do a lot more crazier things for basically nothing

[@Mark-im8hl]

Throw prisoners in there. Nobody would really care who dies

[@StallionFernando]

Do it with all the prisonors.

[@joymedina568]

Imagine if brass knuckle boxing was a thing

[@Endzhov]

Back in ancient times it sort of was. Wouldn't be suprised if someone brings it back.

[@hmwpyro18]

I could imagine Russia trying it at some point

[@jacobl2920]

Brass knuckles and bony knuckles are practically the same. Just condition your knuckles more and theyll become similar to metal.

[@HomeDefender30]

Jake Crazy no matter how much you condition your knuckles, they will never have a 90 degree sharp metal edge.

[@robinsonsupermarket3684]

Go to some parts of asia. There are underground fights where fighters are tied to each other and each are given a knife, surrender or die.

[@deluge71]

I remember watching this incident live. It never sat well with me. It's good to see Joe and Herb addressing it.

[@dillon1564]

Bareknuckle is not a new sport, considering it was a very popular sport back in the wild west. Bareknuckle is also very different because you can't punch the same as padded boxing, haymakers and hooks can't land to the side of the head because you will damage your hand too much. Jackie Chan talks about a fight he had where he punched someone in the face and had his opponents tooth, embedded into his fist down to near his hands bone.

[@andrewcarlson4402]

I appreciate having Herb Dean on the podcast. A great perspective, really.

[@dabeastfromdaweast9788]

The big trade off between bare knuckle and gloves is literally cuts vs. concussions. Any skin to skin contact has a certain degree of adhesion and when bare knuckle meets face there is a high chance that the face gets literally ripped open. Gloves mitigate that chance, but since the hand isn't breaking as much your hand essentially becomes a club and concussions have a higher chance of happening. Generally if you're given a choice between cut and concussion you should want to go with the cut, but if you do you run the risk of infection and a whole slew of other problems.

[@LoopDoc]

Steven Galiniak well put

[@joshrobertson1779]

This is similar to what’s going through my head. Who knows, could be that bare knuckle results in less concussions because of the nature of how this changes fighting style, and the types of impacts the fighters are exposed to. It’s similar to the conversation on rugby vs football. Helmets allow you to take more hits which exposes you to a greater volume of harmful impacts. Also, in rugby since there isn’t as much protection they must adapt their tackle mechanics, a training technique that’s been adopted by footballers due to concussions. I’m a fight fan, martial artist, and concussion specialist. So naturally I’m very interested by the fact this sport has emerged given all the controversy on brain health out there. I’ve got a million questions. Infection is an interesting point. Since bare knuckle results in higher risk of blood contamination (since the knickers are exposed), are the BNB considering the risks of exposing opponents to certain bloodborn diseases? Although I bet stuff like this is covered well in their contracts. Too bad Joe will never see this comment, he could probably tell us.

[@blaynegreiner9365]

@@joshrobertson1779 I would hope that it would all be prevented and accounted for due to being regulated but the founder seems like the kind of guy that honestly doesn't care too much beyond *looking* legitimate. EDIT: Also regarding American football/rugby, you also have to take into account the difference in size of the players. Hits in football are a far sight more dangerous than in rugby for so many reasons.

[@jonathanmosher72]

The UFC will turn into fights stopped early because of cuts and broken hands. There is no way in hell the UFC medics would let a guy get as fucked up as the guy with stitches all over his face. Where do you draw the line on "reality" Why have any rules?

[@seandlax9]

@@joshrobertson1779 There's a lot more going on with hits between football and rugby. For one, the actual contact rules are different, IE spear tackles/checks are illegal in rugby and only the ball carrier can be checked. The nature of the games is different as well. Football is considered a game of inches. Stopping a guy on the spot is important because literally an inch can determine whether there's a punt and/or change of possession, or a new set of downs and/or a touchdown. This results in much more violent collisions. Rugby, being a much more free flowing game, this isn't nearly as important. Hell, giving the ball carrier a couple inches so that your team is in better position to gain possession is actually encouraged.

[@bradleylong3466]

Herb looks like he smoked some herb before he left home

[@cashuflakbreakdancer]

Lol not back home, him and joe Rolled up right before the podcast

[@MarceloHenrique1404]

He light up on the show

[@SirGrit]

😂

[@jackyoung2576]

Here’s a herb, I season dean with the herb, Herb Dean (running away while screaming)

[@rickyrick9328]

how long did it take you to think that zinger up? smoked some herb - wow....

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Herb is very difficult not to like, I find. Great ref, humble demeanour

[@tonytaylor4553]

This is why Herb Dean is worth every dollar .. Integrity

[@milosradicic584]

'Tegrity.

[@garyj6743]

Herb may have integrity, but he didn't have much to say.

[@PickleRick91x]

I love him. Was my fave ref

[@sumsolution5113]

Herb Dean's the type of guy that says... "Hey man.....you dropped your weed. Here you go."

[@FunkBastid]

Ya, he seems like a stand-up guy

[@fractalspace1111]

"you fight or you don't get paid" hopefully they clearly stated that in the contract, otherwise they are looking at a lawsuit

[@IllustriousCrocoduck]

This is all very similar to the various levels of fencing. From like Olympic style with masks and blunt tips, to kendo, to HEMA, through mixtures of all; armored or not armored, grappling allowed or not, live blades... It all changes significantly the techniques used and the pace.

[@JosueGonzalez-if2ty]

4:35 “they’d fight that way in a Walmart parking lot” 🤣

[@edt8489]

03:02 - 03:12 Now that's a smart man, with intelligent and clear perspective...

[@Nowhy]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoiao555h9Sta5Y

[@kirkw95skate]

"they would fight that way in a walmart parking lot"

[@bigeazymc]

Knight probably has fought in a Walmart parking lot.

[@nohandleneeded50]

The gloves appear to be reducing the amount of cuts the fighters receive based on what I’ve seen so I guess you could say they do more then just protect the fighters knuckles.

[@sjcobra84]

Their faces. It's like the game over continue segment in street fighter. 😟

[@Frank074]

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.

[@nsabotage1217]

Those post-fight pictures remind me of the hockey goalies before helmets picture

[@slavonac6]

adrian barceli Terry Sawchuk

[@johnyac60]

Hockey sucks

[@JP-tn2ro]

Man JRE is growing on me.great clips.

[@deasttn]

You give a bonus for added action (knockout of night, etc), but you don't dock pay (you just drop the fighter from future fights).

[@IncredibleMD]

Depending on the contract they agreed to, it might actually be legal. The UFC has a clause in their contract basically making throwing a fight a breach of contract.

[@samsheps6636]

Joe used to say the ufc should be bare knuckle 🤔

[@alexback3395]

He just said "Maybe I need to reconcider my position on Bare knuckle".

[@hivenind913]

Joe has gotten a bit... softer over the years. when he calls fights now and a dude is hurt, he will damn near yell for the ref to stop the fight.

[@samsheps6636]

Alex Bäck commented at the start of the video, admittedly I should have waited before commenting

[@cainandnikosadventures3786]

Joe use to say the moon landing was fake too

[@babycakes6994]

Sam Shepherd so edit your comment? Or are you like hungry LOOL 😂😂

[@danielhunt9533]

I like the point made by Joe, that fighting with out padded knuckle make you think about self preservation. Similarly if NFL players did not have helmets and pads they would have to play the game different or your career would be shorted dramaticlly

[@BODYBAGxPAT]

I have a Scottish friend and he said the same analogy between American football in Rugby. He said since they don't wear pads in rugby they don't hit as hard as you think they do, and definitely don't hit as hard as Football players, who can hit hard because they have pads and helmets

[@Creees]

@@BODYBAGxPAT rugby tackles are a lot tougher. They definatly do in Australia but those Aussies are tough bastards

[@KobyMathews]

Yeah in football they use their helmets like weapons and lead with their heads a lot. You have a false sense of security with a helmet. I honestly think it would be a safer sport if they removed pads. Players would have to tackle properly

[@justinmopavich3685]

I use to box an transition to mma just fine there a couple difference such as ducking your head. But boxing does work in a street fight a golden gloves will eat any street fighter alive hell even some mma fighter if he's able to keep it standing

[@jameswagner5098]

Herb is a solid dude...much respect to him.

[@jopo7996]

Brendan Schaub is a huge advocate of bare-mooseknuckle fighting.

[@bigmoneykilla]

😂😂😂 moose knuckle

[@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights]

Brendan Schaub is an advocate of submission grappling with no submissions or grappling

[@raybanvleet]

Jo Po lmao

[@jackfahy2283]

Bare back moose knuckle fighting.

[@aaronfram7501]

@@jackfahy2283 sounds canadian

[@squirtle8060]

Glad Artem is still the undefeated Goat in multiple combat sports. 🐐

[@Anonymous-lm2ou]

Avery Overton undefeated in both mma and bare knuckle, all praise lord artem

[@splashman2235]

Undefeated u jokin right ?

[@squirtle8060]

@@splashman2235 no Artem is technically undefeated and no doubt the greatest to ever do it.

[@frankierandall186]

@@squirtle8060 artem unstoppable

[@BornBrothers]

@@splashman2235 You clearly haven't gotten your eyes checked in some time. Lord Artem, the king of combat and the GOAt Lobov has never felt defeat. He delivers defeat.

[@christopherbernard9330]

Wow I swear I've always been curious as to this guy's story simply because he didn't look like the most athletic guy but he was entrusted to STOP these monsters incase the got TOO PHYSICAL. He must me a legend .

[@peterroberts7684]

There is reason gloves were invented in boxing,your hands will eventually be destroyed over time,the top of the skull is incredibly hard,bare knuckle fighting will take its toll,eventually a boxer hands will be crippled,that they won’t be able to hold a fork..The ancient Greeks invented boxing,but I’m sure like MMA,that in that era there was some kind of padding on the hands..

[@sebasdavis8081]

Yep, that hardcore attitude is what the appeal is. It's pretty insane, but to each their own ig

[@SNOREOFF]

Joe "when I laugh I look at Jamie's approval if it is actually funny" Rogan

[@zaodedong9935]

I've noticed that for a while, lmao.

[@starmorpheus]

Why would Joe give a single shit what his employee thinks lol. He's just checking to make sure Jaime is laughing too, so he doesn't get the belt.

[@spiralbones]

It is human nature when you laugh to look and see who else is laughing. Step your psychology game up before you judge.

[@AllSystmsGo]

He probably enjoys laughing with him because their friends, or feeds off the laughter from him. Or they enjoy laughing together. Who cares

[@AjayPatel-so8zs]

@@starmorpheus BRUH 😂😂😂

[@piedewdie5080]

Joe always wanted no gloves so its interesting how he changed positions after it actually happened but maybe MMA could be different since the grappling would increase while decreasing the punches landed.

[@TheIrishMugFug]

Hey, id imagine he knows more than most of the people in the comment section. A man is allowed to change.

[@Trrippy_Shades]

Interesting? He looked at the results on their faces lol

[@XMetalChefX]

No he said MMA SHOULD BE. Strictly boxing is way different.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Joe Rogan always switched his opinion on things depending on who's on his show

[@astrospect]

UFC started with no rules, no gloves, no weight classes. The first match was like a heavy weight or something vs a fucking sumo wrestler. The sumo got kicked in the face and had a tooth knocked out.

[@jayrex690]

Herb is so cerebral, and that's just his personality, it's very refreshing.

[@TheWok1336]

I think fighters should wear padding on their heads, with installed impact sensors, the idea is you reduce the actual damage done to the brain and replace it with indicated damage from the sensors. Registering a few concussive blows wins the fight or registering a knock out blow wins the fight (could do similar with the torso). I would like to see something similar with joints, but that would be very bulky i imagine.

[@patrickmoran4994]

But than it’s no longer realistic

[@boogiestreet594]

Just cover the knuckles with 1 wrap of the tape to sligthly reduce pure knuckle on skin cutting, but still not allowing cushion.

[@OneTeeGlory]

At the end of the day, most sports are dangerous. Its up to the athletes to decide if they wanna participate or not. Nobody’s forcing anyone to fight without gloves, thats the choice the fighters made.

[@ExecutiveChefLance]

Bare Knuckle is safer then actually Boxing or MMA though....

[@GlazzedDonut]

@Jesus is Fake because the gloves typically protect your knuckles and not the other person not sure how many fights you've been in but just from experience

[@GlazzedDonut]

If you ever smashed someone in the face and caught your knuckles across their teeth and get a big gash you would know right away well at least once the adrenaline wears off

[@decespugliatorenucleare3780]

@Jesus is Fake by padding your hands you can strike at full force at the top of the head, who contains the brain - causing, on the long run, permanent brain injury

[@LegendaryGooseling]

Andrew Sprague bare knuckle is bone to bone fighting, it’s bad for both fighters

[@nvm7438]

Joe: “This unethical” Proceeds to describe how pride did the same thing but it slightly different so it’s ok

[@iaccusegodforthemurderofet8406]

He's such a hypocrite

[@kyliecooter5769]

@@iaccusegodforthemurderofet8406 Rogan is such a clown.

[@davidzamora3244]

His main point was BK cutting fighter pay for performance moron. Prides yellow card was about overall action

[@Cicada-oj4xq]

Ok I have fought in the street and in a match with and without gloves while I don't agree with the rules I do wish bare knuckle boxing is more common because despite common belief gloves make knockouts easier because it puts more weight into your hands and extends your reach.when you have extended reach you have an easier time knocking the chin around and more weight means heavier punches.when your bare knuckle all that's potentially risky is knuckles can cut more often.the entire reason that UFC doesn't go gloveless any more is because the common people don't understand gloves actually provide more risk towards brain damage and life threatening injury but because the gloves are padded so therefore they are safer than bare knuckle

[@boshirahmed]

less people will train or watch fighters who have become ugly because of broken noses and scars on the face, no pretty boy mayweather, no sex symbols, people want the fantasy of looking cute when fighting. old school fighters all had broken noses.

[@luisdealba4126]

4:43 Jason Knight has the best nickname ever

[@zachmorgan6982]

Wooooowwwww that's CCCRRRAAAZZZYYY. GOD BLESS HERB DEAN

[@peaceofcompassion]

the bkfc clips are probably some the most insane things on KZbin. They are so brutal, but not going to lie find myself reacting out loud to the ko's. next level achieved

[@classydays43]

Sometimes I want to learn how to fight, just so I have the ability to hospitalise someone at the first opportunity. And the craziest part is if it's ever caught on video, they'll be fighting for their life and I'll be respected by the masses.

[@TreyIrwin]

something wrong with you dawg, like did you not read that out loud? craziest part is you put someone in the hospital you catching a case and getting sued, have fun being famous for 10 minutes tho

[@classydays43]

@@TreyIrwin if I get in to a fight with anyone, I wouldn't be the one to instigate it. The fact remains that if they're not the one in hospital, then I am. Given how everyone seems to be talking about the subject, there's no respect earned in being hospitalised after losing a fight. You're considered weak, a pussy, someone who can't take a hit, someone who needed to be humbled by a better man, as in the one who knocked you down. Rather than it be an infortuq the thing, you're to blame for losing rather than the other being to blame for beating you up.

[@Lore_Wise]

Herb: MMA athletes are the most honorable and.... Everyone: JON JONES!!

[@Fifabeast389]

LMAO and Conor

[@cookj6899]

Nothing wrong with a lol bump

[@stopdropandnopodcast1413]

Robbie lawler Lyoto machida Chuck Liddell Randy couture Daniel Cormier George Saint Pierre Mark Munoz

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

@@stopdropandnopodcast1413 Those are the old timers. The new generation of fighters are cancer ie Colby Covington

[@TheClinchMagazine]

And Rapist McGregor

[@MrRJC1991]

I think gloves are more for hand protection than anything.

[@seanclements6206]

Which in turn allows you to throw more and less careful punches because of all the extra protection. That's the argument

[@MrRJC1991]

@@seanclements6206 that is not a good argument. At the end of the day, you don't want your fighter with broken hands all the time. That is bad for business.

[@seanclements6206]

@@MrRJC1991 I'm not for or against it. I am pointing out you literally stated the argument in itself. Do you want the fights as is or do you want fighters to take more consideration for each punch they throw because they might shatter a metacarpal.

[@MrRJC1991]

@@seanclements6206 I think they take enough consideration. They know if they make a mistake, they will get knock out. That is enough risk for me

[@MrRJC1991]

@Terry Dermott that could be true. But I have also heard that bigger gloves are worse for the brain. Because you take more shots to the head in order to be knocked out

[@hoop6988]

. The problem with boxing are the gloves, because they exist punches to the head are more prone shaking your brain inside leading to brain damage. Some gonna say so shit like “the human skull was meant to take impact”. Hears the thing, your neck is what bends when talking the force. If you put beans in a metal container and punch it the container isn’t broken but the beans inside still shake .

[@edburr3227]

Crazy to think both these men have seen legends trade in person! I could picture a grand pa Herb with stories for days

[@Aztllan]

I rather get punched than kneed or kicked in the face

[@TheBranden415]

Kneed is the worst

[@Meeminator]

Oh yeah for sure. No doubt in my mind.

[@lisadesin2471]

But it still depends on the fighter, would you want a knee by henry cejudo ir a punch from deontay wilder ???

[@venomousgas3300]

@POOR PIRANO True that there would be a lot less strikes landing, but those that do land are much more devastating. Take Evangelista Santos vs Michael Venom Page for example.. Santos took a career-ending knee to the forehead that literally crushed his skull. A punch isn't going to do that.

[@lightweightlucas3207]

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[@zakf6104]

I don't think it should be solely boxing. I feel that it should be integrated into MMA rather than solely hitting with fists. Like Joe said, we don't pad knees and elbows, but we also don't fight with just our knees and elbows, it's nonsensical.

[@swalther10]

Jason knight is from right up the road… kid is talented, should be able to go far, but hopefully not a long future in bare knuckle

[@alexblois8667]

Herb is a genuine guy and a great ref

[@JAGUARR1]

Bare knuckle fight is a very dangerous game, it's a lethal game.

[@stevens392]

It works like this in muy thai they bet money in between rounds for kos and then they tell the fighter they'll get bonus if they ko their opponent the next round.

[@Osprey1994]

Yeah but is that on top of what they are already supposed to be paid?

[@BuakawPorAdi]

Yeah they are given a bonus, not having their money taken away

[@stevens392]

@@Osprey1994 yes but if u pussy out they can cut ur cheque.

[@dannass5]

@@stevens392 that makes sense. Work is work. If you're gonna get paid you need to finish the job you signed up for.

[@marcoslaureano5562]

Bare knuckle fights have always had less action because getting hit with a bare knuckle AND hitting someone with a bare knuckle fucking HURTS way more than gloves. Simple.

[@user-he4ef9br7z]

As a guy who has been in real fights, I think the argument for bkf being closer to the actual fighting is a real slippery slope. In a real fight you are not punching someone in the face because if you hit the teeth you can kiss your hand goodbye, you are throwing chairs at people, driving peoples' heads into door knobs, almost guaranteed to have opponents who are not in your weight class, and sometimes are in really sticky situations like trying to protect somebody who can't defend themselves. It's really dark stuff and not something to make entertainment out of. As for cutting the man's pay for running.... 70% of the time in real fights, you're running, either to chase someone down or to get the fuck out.

[@lewisc1924]

Lethwei includes headbutts too so is more brutal than bare Knuckle Muay Thai.

[@BKFC]

Joe Rogan vs. David Feldman on your podcast.

[@outlaw-199]

Joe would Steam roll that coke head

[@holdenkimura5034]

In what fucking sport? Dumbass cokeheads

[@billgober2]

People forget that bare knuckle boxing was huge and was all over in the 1800s early early 1900s and before. There are still underground pit fights going on today.

[@ericwoodlee9745]

Gloves help protect people’s hands so they don’t get broken so often and allows them to punch harder than they would without gloves.

[@apples4255]

Increasing brain trauma

[@MCSubZero1]

Lethwei you headbutt. Lethwei is a miminal hand wrap. The most vicious sport

[@AlexXDiety]

Kinda funny to re-watch this after hearing Dana talk about how he's only "looking for killers" he's definitely just as greasy.

[@masonclaybrook1437]

dana knows that action isn’t going to happen 24/7 tho. obvi he’s always on the lookout for exciting fighters, but not as bad as BKFC where he’s going to take half the fighters’ money for not being exciting enough lmao

[@FedorManiac90]

I'd love to see wilder vs Ngannou in bkrules.

[@husseinhassan7984]

fury vs wilder in bkf rules makes sense

[@davidwilliamson8502]

lol someone shoulda yelled back to the owner “YOU don’t fight, YOU don’t get paid!”

[@lu77xiaojun37]

You dock half my pay, you better spend it...and a whole lot more on security.

[@MAGA-vd9wp]

I will say there is a massive market for this. People love fighting and knockouts. If this guy can package this right it could compete with MMA and regular boxing no question.

[@garycurrington5495]

Not a chance in hell will bkf compete with either boxing or mma, first of bkf is just to brutal absolutely rips the face to bits and countless stitches are needed, leaving big nasty ugly scars all over the face, plus in bkf you won't get as much knockouts like you do in ufc fighting because they wear gloves which protects the opponents face much better especially against bk, basically bkf is not ever going to grow like ufc because we live in a very different world compared to say the 80s where bkf would be much better accepted because society back then tolerated violence much more than today's society does.

[@oranges557]

​@@garycurrington5495there are knockouts in bkfc left and eight you mor*n hahahahah

[@tbupnexttruths1355]

@@oranges557not on that level still 😂😂

[@DA-to6gi]

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEEEEHHH" RIP headphone users...

[@briancranford8110]

It was in Biloxi Mississippi and they did it, knocked out from there on

[@XymomeyYT]

Joe “they would fight that way in a Walmart parking lot” rogan

[@AnnaLVajda]

Yeah well guys don't wear gloves in street fights.

[@scottfarley3106]

I agree with Joe on this part- I was there and we didn't hear what David said in the back. The fighters all fought the way they did because that's who they are. I totally agree with Herb that the fighters are some awesome people. They are respectful, friendly to their fans and want to show they are not barbarians. Plus they love the fans and say they wouldn't be able to do what they do without their support. Not all of the fights look like Jason and Artem's. They didn't block at all and threw hands for 10 minutes. Each fighter has a different idea of what defense works best. Some block with their wrists and taking damage. This works in boxing with gloves, but not bare knuckle. On BKFC 3 Elvin Leon Brito showed what works for this sport. He modified his stance to block with his forearms and elbows. Out of any Bare Knuckle fight I have seen he is doing it best. Everyone is an amateur in Bare Knuckle, no matter what they have done before, this is different. Bare Knuckle is going to explode. People thought the same of MMA when it got popular and a lot still do. This looks bloody mainly because of the main event alone at BKFC 5, not all fights are that extreme, they just came to throw down hard and they did. Jason and Artem both are super awesome guys and badass fighters.

[@GodblessyouchildAmen]

a year before this joe rogan was talking about how gloves don’t do anything and how it should be bare knuckle. i literally just watched the video and it gave me this as a suggestion. i’m confused 🤷‍♀️

[@andrewkovacs1867]

He did say that looking at these guys faces after the fight was making him re-think his decisions on it.

[@jamestrellu9043]

Na he’s just a company man and a pussy that can’t hold word .

[@justinthunder6284]

@@jamestrellu9043 fanboi mad

[@jamestrellu9043]

@@justinthunder6284 Justin Thunder

[@lestercross5123]

BFD i wish the UFC had this rule. (Derrick Lewis vs Francis N, Ken Shamrock vs i don't remember)

[@Gruff46]

He didnt mention DMT!

[@bluesilkdesigns]

Gruff - How about an LSD fighting league? Lol

[@seemslegit2412]

They pad knuckles because you'll throw more punches with padding.

[@gerryrockwell8758]

True that

[@mattreyes4803]

@Bersker Bare knuckles actually is safer for your brain but you'll cut easier so it appears more violent cause they bleed more often

[@MrRadical87]

Padded knuckles also reduces the risk of fighters breaking their hands when punching.

[@JamieReynolds89]

@@MrRadical87 no shit sherlock

[@MrRadical87]

@@JamieReynolds89 lots of shit actually, Watson.

[@wolfflow8972]

Taped up hands is like having clubs instead of fists. Seems legit to me that the fighters have to absorb the impact in their hands and really know how to throw a punch. It's true to the art of boxing minus the clubs.

[@kennystoner6485]

I watch bare Knuckle Fighting And I respect the hell out of those fighters for just doing it like it’s brave as fuck

[@rollinstromboli7393]

Joe starts really feeling the cocaine at 6:05 😂

[@jamiedunne519]

Rogan didn't take Cocaine since 2010

[@littlebro1818]

I hope people realise how bad a street fight can be and that's even with a ref.. I hope people go to fight in a professional area rather than street fights

[@maershkinschrabs7597]

Street fights dont usually go for that long anyway.

[@littlebro1818]

Still a lot of damage can be dealt, even in a small period of time

[@Unknownuser0901]

them dudes in the pictures went AT IT 😂😂

[@DJJOOLZDE]

Let's just go back to how UFC1 was.. Martial art style vs Martial art style. Karate Vs. Sumo etc, in their full attire. That was fun :)

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

No that shit was trash now when you look back on it. And the first couple UFC events with Royce Gracie were fixed , it's been known for years that they were fixed lol

[@TheRealAfrican]

Yeah it would be so cool if they had a tournament once a year that was voluntary and winner gets a big prize

[@ltakethefatlplease.3380]

@@drunkenmmamaster419 Ken Shamrock vs Dan Severn Tito Ortiz vs Guy Mezger Gary Goodridge vs Mark Schultz All classic fights.

[@ltakethefatlplease.3380]

@@drunkenmmamaster419 modern UFC is trash, all fighters look the same, and fight the same, the early UFC really represented the sport of fighting.

[@M-Murray]

@@TheRealAfrican a big prize would be coming out of that without becoming a Vegetable...

[@antnee8377]

But have you ever bare knuckle boxed a unicorn while on DMT ???!!!

[@iody247]

no but i bet joe rogan would bare knuckle box an elk on dmt

[@dylanslater83]

I grappled with a yowie on DMT

[@CMya018]

Nope. Tangled with a smurf tho

[@MrNick9044]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MrMagnaniman]

Bare knuckles increase lacerations, but reduce brain damage. There's always a tradeoff.

[@ronytheronin7439]

Magnaniman “quote required”

[@MrMagnaniman]

Bare knuckles increase the chance of breaking one's fist when striking bone (like the skull), which tends towards fewer punches thrown at the head and reduced power for the ones that are. The fights also tend to be shorter, ending in fewer hits. Additionally, bare knuckles precludes the possibility of loaded wraps and such. There's plenty of information out there. Do a web search if you don't believe me.

[@lilkurt19wok91]

whos here after BKFC just put on a spectacular event!!! well done mr feldman🙏one of the most entertaining combat sports events in recently!!!!

[@justinberg3616]

The comment section: "UFC doesn't get paid much", "bare knuckles boxing is/isn't more dangerous" Me: not even the point of the clip. The point of the clip is that the employer is not giving an inch of room for the employee to do their job. So basically these fighters go through what you go through at work...a manager that has never worked your position trying to micro manage you. These fighters need breathing room to work their strategy to with the fight...but the employers don't care about that, they simply want both fighters to engage as quickly, and recklessly as possible for excitement.

[@gagetaylor54]

Thank You! When doing this, technique is everything! Of course this is bareknuckle boxing, and boxing in general, so someone is bound to get hurt, but attempting to mitigate super-serious and threatening injuries by way of advanced and precise techniques should be mandatory. If you wanna see fast, bloody action, watch a cock-fight, because maybe the real people fighting for their money and wages first and other’s amusement as a close second don’t want to be treated like pit-animals of whom are being told something along the lines of “you don’t fight, ya don’t eat”.

[@keenanK9]

He redacted where he said and gave The Fighter the whole purse. Said and I quote it was a knee-jerk reaction

[@leolorenzo52raylewis]

Joe you should try to interview a rugby player

[@spiralbones]

Why?

[@Kazeshini11]

I like seeing this side of Herb Dean. Always seemed like a likable dude and now I know he is. I'd grab a beer with him if I could.

[@flowrepins6663]

is safer than regular. the skull gets damage but brain doesnt. with gloves the impact doesnt get absoverd by skull but the brain takes it all.