Joe Rogan | Why Wrestlers Are So Tough

Taken from JRE MMA Show #54 w/Din Thomas:
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[@Dan-vz7xu]

My friends that called me gay for wrestling when we were in junior high and high school, are the ones that say they wish they had wrestled in junior high and high school.

[@draco_1876]

@Na tu Or were the kids that played some shit like Soccer and basketball

[@SyndicateAllTheWay]

Na tu I did both Swimming and Water Polo, and there was definitely a lot of gay moments, but even we all came to the consensus that wrestling had the big gay

[@draco_1876]

@@SyndicateAllTheWay How is it gay? We are out there to kick ass not to be gay.

[@Wesleybaker2012]

Ugh brother I feel that, I wish I had wrestled. Now playing catch up with BJJ, asking politely for people to start spars on our feet rather than on knees/in guard

[@omarkhamis523]

@@Wesleybaker2012 wrestling is only good while standing once your on ground bjj takes the role

[@bailmasterflex]

I ran more in wrestling practice than cross country.

[@shenaniganz9443]

Spencer Leon says a lot about the type of conditioning wrestling requires

[@haydenwigle2098]

We didn’t run as much but Jesus Christ fire men carries up a stadium suck ass

[@sethwilliams8625]

how? I was a slightly above average runner and I’d be running 40 miles per week

[@bailmasterflex]

Seth Williams ok. Were you running on your own time as well or just in practice? Cause either you’re not very bright or your coach didn’t know what he was doing. That’s way too much running. I did both cross country and wrestling in middle school and only wrestled in high school so I don’t know what it was like at that level but when I did it we ran maybe 2 or 3 miles 5 days a week including the actual meets. In wrestling it was I don’t even know how many miles in a bunch of different types of running exercises. Sprints, shuttles, Indian runs, intervals etc. my cardio was ridiculous.

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Spencer Leon if your cross country practise only consists of running a few miles a day, your coach was retarded tbh. There is absolutely no reason you should be running more in wrestling than cross country.

[@limpingtortilla3132]

Wrestling for 6 minutes after fasting for a day helps you learn who you are very quickly

[@Bballer12ification]

Please no

[@cryhfox-gamingandanimenews9992]

😂

[@serkomaani4346]

Blake gee pretty much😂 its soo hard. But at least u dont have to wrestle until the day after the weight in

[@XrayTheMyth23]

Wish I woulda stuck with wrestling when I was young but I was too skinny to be a real threat :/

[@joshuahaynes2573]

That's the truth man . I had to cut down to 150 from 160 in 4 hours to wrestle a freshman that was a 3 time junior high state champ . My coach didn't want our 150 to get man handled and we had another solid 160 . I was so drained . It was a straight chess match the first round . Shoulder clinch fighting . I caught him with a Greco-Roman throw to pin . I caught a Charlie horse pinning him in my fucking calf . Had I been on the ground second round he probably would have got me from exhaustion and being dehydrated

[@eddiehuff7366]

Wrestling is the most exhaustive activity I ever tried. Played fullback, have boxed 6 rounds more than once, have swam 2 miles a few times. None compares with trying to pin or my case just survive a wrestling workout. Those guys are in great shape.

[@CuddyTG]

10 seconds feel like an eternity in wrestling

[@mrigue56]

Lol

[@OhWisha]

Lol dude my senior year I was so out of shape I won 23 matches that year and I pinned every kid in those matches. I would always die after the second round. I wrestled like 3 full matches that year and lost them lol

[@GrowingDownUnder]

would you rather fight a wrestler or fight a guy who can break metal poles & baseball bats with his kicks? all I know is i'd rather tap out than have my leg snapped in half

[@brandono.3307]

😂 that’s a fact. People don’t understand how intense that sport is

[@montinyek6554]

As a striker, i admit that wrestling is practically superior. Idc how good you are at punching and kicking, once you go down it's over

[@ttlover7490]

Montin Yek agreed, wrestlers and judokas kick my ass during training every time we spare for fun

[@arandompersonlol1202]

not always, but most of the time

[@krule8352]

I think boxing is more effective than wrestling on the streets.

[@aaronsimpson5417]

Krule Can’t box from your back bud

[@joshuahaley4367]

Krule Joe blow can get lucky and knock out a good boxer but you can’t say that about grappling

[@hyperionman420]

Hair levels are critically low sir!

[@chrisreaves6399]

😂😂😂

[@justbeconfidentbro5816]

@Nobody Unknown So would you like me to hold the spit? Sir?

[@RunawayNomad17]

They're like baby seals 😂

[@gaspergomez4499]

Quality

[@taylorowens3721]

Bro. Go take care of Butt stallion. Not be watching KZbin.

[@electropentatonic]

I grew up wrestling. I wrestled through highschool and most years, did freestyle after school practice. All my friends were wrestlers and even on the weekends we wrestled nonstop for hours and hours in the living room. It will teach humility and to break your own limits. Today, my son is wrestling in highschool. There has been no single greater mental challenge in my life than wrestling. Everything else is easy

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Wrestling is definitely tough, but I disagree that wrestling makes "Everything else easy." Let's see you swim out into massive surf with no swim fins and no flotation device, and there's a strong rip current pulling over sharp coral reef. You'd get dragged into the impact zone and get smoked! No human is tougher than the ocean, my friend. I don't care how physically and mentally tough you are. The ocean will just swallow you up, and suck away all of your energy like you're insignificant.

[@therookie8895]

Dudes scull rockin the mohawk

[@harrycarter2832]

Fucking LOL

[@Bom-pff]

F F S 😂

[@hughjohnson4071]

Skullhawk, my next heavy metal bands name.

[@jackiechan4AAR]

Shepherd Fanatic ...lmao

[@therookie8895]

Hugh Johnson with singles like 'I cant keep my hat on'

[@Izzy-zf1fl]

Wrestling is the most dominant martial art. Even if you're a mediocre striker but have wrestling you can make it far. Wrestlers are a different breed. 6 out of the 8 UFC champs come from a wrestling background. That's mad.

[@karljonson3287]

Eeeeeeeh not exactly. That's just the time we're in. For example in women's division are there female wrestlers that are champions? DJ is pretty good. Max too.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

@@karljonson3287 He made a factual statement and you still had some smart ass comment

[@YaGurlshanaenae]

karl jonson Exactly, if Joe and Din were talking about the most dominant art back in the days of the early UFC, they would be talking about BJJ. In my opinion every style has potential if it is drilled and practiced correctly. That’s why we see many wrestlers who have been in shape and drilling since they were little kids and much fewer from other styles as they haven’t got the same amount of mat time and competition that wrestling gives.

[@MaxRai7]

@@JJ-te3yf Just because they have wrestled in their teens doesn't mean that their mma base is wrestling . When you talk about Jones and TJ the first thing that comes to mind is great striking not wrestling .

[@seanmer5273]

Max Rai their wrestlers tho dude. Obviously Jones style isnt going to be wrestling, he’s taller and longer than every person he fights. They all have tools in their toolkit but they came from wrestling

[@norbertomilan1906]

Imagine teaching wrestling to mike tyson in his prime

[@Svin4y]

now that would be thavage!

[@MrBolanchaw]

Thats was murderous machine ever made

[@jakbak3566]

Lets assume ufc was around back then. The issue is that he would be below the average skill level even if he had 2-3 years of training, so when it went to the ground he would be outwrestled even if he knew how. However, if he had wrestled for years on top of the boxing hed be a fuckin machine. Imagine his punching power in 4 oz gloves

[@dzimikes]

@@jakbak3566 first ufc tournament was in 1993. MMA came even earlier. But the difference is that everyone knew only 1 martial art.

[@AnteNDH1]

@@dzimikes thats not true at all, haha

[@ericv5615]

Joe was extremely upset and triggered on the inside about the jiu jitsu comments.

[@CheeksOfButt]

Jiu Jitsu and weed he hit all the right chords

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Yep. You can see him swallow hard at that point.

[@AlexTorres-lr5ih]

For sure.

[@flipgsp]

Nah. I'm a jiu jitsu lover, and I agreed 100% with Dean. Most Jiu Jitsu guys have zero problem acknowledging the difference in approach and mentality. I've never met a jiu jitsu guy who had a problem admitting that wrestling is way more physically demanding and mentally tough than jiu jitsu. I can be on my back for 10 minutes playing guard and not get tired. Where as a couple minutes of wrestling will wreck me (I am NOT a wrestler lol). So I highly doubt Joe would be soft enough and irrational enough to deny the obvious. The video literally starts off with Joe praising wrestling and saying it's first on the list of necessary and efficient martial arts for mma. You really think he hasn't ever analyzed the differences?

[@MrRazmut]

@@flipgsp Exactly. JJ is technical af and it´s not easy by any means, but just in terms of sheer grueling-ness, wrestling (especially standup wrestling, imo) is sooo fucking hard. I can roll on the ground for minutes but 45 seconds of wrestling on the feet with some real effort, and I´m about to throw up.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Wrestling 3 minute rounds is the most exhausting thing that I have ever done.

[@skmalaujitra9580]

that right ..

[@jayvdub5390]

15 years of it. You are correct. Dont care at all what your conditioning background is. Most cant even go for one 2 minute round without wheezing

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@jayvdub5390 or barfing

[@jjsmithlago1234]

2 minutes was HELL for me. I've never been that tired in my life again.

[@Josh-cf5xs]

So you musta started in high school lol same here fracturing my l1 and l5 in college now my son wrestles in high school did 2 mins bout died couldn’t really do anything after words and thought 19 years ago I’d do this all day then come home and practice on anyone that let me grueling sports but at 45 years old most the young bucks at work can’t keep up with me

[@kurington.blogspot7876]

I remember from my wrestling days one particular: Elimination. We started from the lightest to the heaviest. You won, you got a heavier opponent. If that doesn't teach you your place, nothing will.

[@extoxico277]

Is called King of the Mat lol

[@aaronkennedy1765]

I was heavy so I always ran through my opponent’s

[@777Skeptic]

I remember shark bait. You wrestle someone, the whistle blows, and immediately without stopping, that someone leaves and a fresh guy that had plenty of rest charges at you. You do a few rounds of those and then someone else is the shark bait.

[@santiagosegovia8756]

We played a game where u had to be on base and try to pin someone else and my 300 plus lbs coach who go play with us

[@spiscold50]

King of the Mat

[@jonmills6927]

A friend of mine was a wrestler in high school and then joined the army. Boot camp was a breeze for him because his wrestling training was harder than bootcamp was.

[@c_rock3512]

My brother did the same and said this as well. “The DI’s can’t put hands on me like coach could!”

[@grappling.enthusiast]

A lot of soldiers wrestle, boot camp should be easier for them. Don't know about special forces tho.

[@c_rock3512]

@@grappling.enthusiast that’s a whole different level; having wrestling experience can’t hurt though.

[@grappling.enthusiast]

@@c_rock3512 True that conditioning should be handy.

[@Ronald1324]

bruh

[@robmangeri777]

They are right about wrestling. BY FAR hardest sport I was involved in. Hard to take certain people seriously from weaker sports after wrestling.

[@tile1522]

@@bornfree8073 So you mean dominating and beating other strong and in shape people is gay? What sport do you play? The only thing as hard if not harder than wrestling is swimming. Maybe you should stop acting like a tough guy and being homophobic

[@howdyjoe2367]

@@tile1522 he's just a lazy midget who sits on his ass all day in front of screen. Don't take him seriously buddy.

[@Sergio-P-A]

Rob Mangeri what about football ? The best athletes in the USA play football

[@TurfDoe]

Sergїo arcїga Jr Football is not as hard as wrestling. I played football and wrestled and most football players who tried wrestling out couldn’t hang and ended up quitting after their first practice.

[@vgman94]

This thread has me ROLLING.

[@JonSmith-oy4bi]

As a wrestler, it’s something different. I’ve done Basketball, Track, and Soccer, none of them compare with the uncomfortable condition. The practices are hard, to really do a wrestling season, showing up to every practice, knowing you likely want to skip the next practice. It’s honestly about being tough, offensive, working hard, little to know breaks. Live wrestling, and learning some life skills, it’s just crazy, and wrestling gives you a high like a runner’s high. And you sometimes miss it, but you almost don’t miss the hard workouts, and during this quarantine, many like me are missing it so bad! Wrestlers, who want to be there in the room, not just there to lose weight, or stay in shape for the next sports season, or because someone told them they had to do something to get out of the house, are something special, something different. And I’m my opinion, wrestling is the most underrated commonly found sport in high school and college.

[@CazWitDaCash]

💯

[@777Skeptic]

I have never looked forward to a wrestling practice. The warmups combined with the smell of chlorine as the freshmen were cleaning the mats was always eerie. It was the calm before the storm. Once the mat dries, and the warmups are done, a hellish practice was about to begin.

[@nicholaslopez6384]

Is there a Sunday league for wrestling lol

[@farcenter]

Facts, miss that too

[@boiiiiii4285]

@@777Skeptic fr I hate the smell of the mats

[@Crest28]

If you think you have great conditioning, go wrestle live and you'll be shocked how bad your conditioning is

[@zsxdemon]

If you're a wrestler go box and see how pathetic you are.

[@BenJohnson0531]

The Dapper Don I’ve done both extensively. Wrestling is more taxing.

[@abukhalid222]

So true .. Recently I wrestled Two Guys ..picked up the win but Damn I was Exhausted and it kinda made me not to try wrestling again

[@princenaseem6123]

@@zsxdemon boxing isnt fighting either is wrestling but in mma using wrestling hart

[@ppvplug3940]

The Dapper Don haha dumbass. Wrestling is WAYYYY more grueling. Bet you can’t do 10 rounds of 3 minute wrestling.

[@thatindiandude4602]

And wrestling is an ancient martial artist. I mean the ancient civilisations had that as a sport.

[@LibraWrite]

It Is Probably The Longest Existing Martial Art. Look At Every Continent. All Have Some Ancient Form Of Wresting/Grappling.

[@azizka9177]

And it’s the most natural one: animals, especially kids, wrestle too.

[@StrikeforceJedi]

Ancient Indian "mythology" is riddled with legendary wrestlers.

[@boxcuber]

@@azizka9177 you forgeting the knuckles on your hand bruh? boxing is ancient too..

[@johnnyflorence219]

Wrestling and boxing the oldest

[@appliedperformance773]

Wrestling practice. You had to get your head right before you entered. Never ever an easy day.

[@sugawolf1592]

Athletic Performance Shooting every fuccin day 3+ hours you’re right I wud have to get pumped up for practice just to get thru it

[@Tikimohn]

The worst would be your straight conditioning practices... Soon as you're done with your stretching and warm up jog coaches just blow the whistle and scream "PAIR UP, GROUPS OF 3's". You know you're fucked... No drills, No technique... You know it's going to be 2-3 hours of straight wrestling, and then an hour of straight sprinting/jogging and whatever other fucking exercise like Burpies, wheelbarrels, fireman carries etc... you can think of..... Ugh.... Took me so long to leave the locker room after those.

[@Ciscoviana]

@@Tikimohn I remember when we had fucked up as a team, we would finish doing our warm ups in the track and would walk in to the wrestling room thinking it would be another day in the office til we saw a red flag hanging somewhere in the room. We knew we were so fucked lmao. 3-4 hours of intense conditioning. At least 1 person would throw up everytime.

[@yo2stix]

My freshman year...4 hour practices. So brutal. I was a complete fish. Took beatings all year.

[@Tikimohn]

@@yo2stix I remember the first week of practice was always brutal, our second most brutal series of practices. Was always to weed out the guys that couldn't hack it.

[@NorthernRiderOffroad]

Dillashaw is a wrestler who became a striker. Really the complete package.

[@1994Trill]

So is his training partner Aaron pico. He's only like 6-1 but he is a fucking nightmare.

[@ganggang2314]

Facts

[@MrJM540]

@@1994Trill That kid's got body shots from hell. So impressive.

[@Piesfan35]

Dillashaw is incredible to watch man, in my opinion he could be the Pound for Pound number 1 right now. Especially after he starches Cejudo. Like Joe said, Wrestlers don’t like facing Wrestlers who can really strike

[@boomidctv6017]

@@1994Trill Pico is a little different he's been boxing since he was a kid so technically striker turned wrestler turned mma fighter

[@jordanbaker44]

Brings back those memories of getting up at 4 am just to shed off those last 2 pounds before weigh ins, it was a brutal sport but molded me into a young lion

[@jordanbaker44]

Lol good one mate, now go back to your moms basement trolling people on your keyboard 😂

[@mcdutch1017]

I used to wear a track suit and a letter men and jump rope for those last hours before weigh ins lmao

[@celab9360]

With the trashbag underneath the sweatsuit at 6am the day of weigh-ins cutting those last few pounds of waterweight.

[@mando8263]

"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy"

[@sonsofvirginsempireofhydra1393]

I wish 😢

[@ichichu]

How things have changed. Back in the day, I used to argue with my classmates all the time about wrestling being a much more physically and mentally demanding sport than basketball in high school, but everyone used to disagree, saying wrestling was easier because it is only 3 6-min periods, where basketball was 4 12-min quarters. Nice to see more respect for wrestlers.

[@cdrtej]

The full body 120% cardiac output. Nothing like it

[@davidluther2355]

The longest 6 minutes of your life.

[@TheKnightPatriot]

The wrestling coaches at my old school did not recognize any other sport as a tough sport. Football was for babies in their eyes, and after seeing the level of competitiveness and dedication our wrestling team had all I could do was nod in agreement. They won state almost every year, and cumulatively the school has the most titles in state history.

[@XeraYT]

What school?

[@redlizerad8268]

@@XeraYT Probably Perry High from Oklahoma

[@adamsmith3413]

Dan Gable : “after wrestling nothing in life is hard”

[@anthonyalbarran7683]

Not saying Brock lesnar is the best but the only reason Brock did somewhat decent in the ufc was because of his wrestling background

[@seheadhunter50]

He won the belt in his 4th ever mma fight. That's great, not decent.

[@seheadhunter50]

@Dinero He won against the best fighters after barely training and having less fighting experience than all of them. That's skill.

[@seheadhunter50]

@206- Sea He was half his WWE size. Other fighters were taking more than him.

[@markwhitton8785]

....the massive amount of steroids he took might have helped too....sorry, but no respect for that guy, complete doping cheat

[@dzimikes]

@@seheadhunter50 eh,ufc heavyweight roster sucked back then

[@TheAcolossus]

If you're reading this you should know Jamie got an A in physics

[@xxxgames4458]

No he dropped out hahaha

[@roddyrodrodrod]

So why is he employed as Joe's Google looker-upper?

[@tommyboy1986]

thanks for informing me

[@noneofyourbusiness747]

What school did you go to Einstein?

[@roddyrodrodrod]

@Elon Musk Joe's Google looker-upper.

[@flintrocks]

Fun fact: Most knights and people in the middle ages trained wrestling rather than striking when it came to empty handed skills, due to the prevalence of daggers, since if you were not not armed it was more important to be able to grapple and take someone down in order to secure a disarm. Strikes were most often used to set up take downs

[@TheHannibalTV]

Hahaha about smoking pot at Jui Jujitsu school!

[@flaindiantownflaindiantown7171]

I trained at Dins mma gym in stuart fl and mostly all his coaches and students smoked weed

[@pableras1095]

Leg lock for you bitch

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

@Brian Moore Better have a brain of a 12 year old, than a body of a 80 year old. haha

[@Daddydeathv2]

I wrestled 4 years in Highschool. I've done mma after and had about 7 fights. Won them all, nothing was as hard as wrestling. I dont fight or compete any more I just enjoy it as a fan but these guys are not kidding. Wrestling breeds a different type

[@Joseabh24]

Hey bro i have a question, i want to be an UFC fighter, im a good striker because i practiced kempo since i was 12, now im training MMA. Can i be a high level Wrestler (to be in the UFC) in 2 or 3 years? Im 20 years old lol

[@thorn3807]

@@Joseabh24 Just depends on u. I'm planning to become a professional MMA fighter and I have no background. (I live in a very small town in Nebraska, so the closest MMA gym is 100 miles from where I live.) So I've got a late start but I'm gonna see how quick I learn and what my style is. I personally hope to hear ur name in the MMA community. Good luck!

[@everythingsfine1395]

@@Joseabh24 You can , it depends if you will

[@aymankhali904]

@erhhqw the ufc scouts talent from other places ig, if you're good enough and win big amateur matches, and pro matches, mma organizations will probably notice you

[@St1cKnGoJuGgAlO]

"Wrestlers are tough. Look at khabib" Khabib- "judo"

[@bartwilliamspupperlover1420]

Haha exactly

[@davidbalazs347]

Yeah so many people don’t know he’s a judo black belt

[@djbobby224]

People really sleep on judo. It's way harder than anything. It's like wrestling and bjj combined. Especially when you get slammed the wind gets knocked out of you.

[@uddhavsurve2974]

"Judo is another class. You know class? "- khabib to cejudo on anatomy of fightet

[@mpforeverunlimited]

@@djbobby224 it's like gi bjj combined with wrestling but without single or double lega

[@TheSpacedCowboy13]

Shoutout to all wrestlers 🤼‍♀️

[@quadzilla561]

I wrestle also

[@yuseftumli5923]

🕳

[@mewmannamwem6087]

My man✊

[@intermaths1128]

🤼🏻‍♂️👍🏻

[@dgs266]

Let’s go states are soon

[@ox4556]

The grind those guys go through is on par with what those early vale tudo guys trained in the 80's and 90's. It is something about having another man trying to impose his will on you.

[@gregorystenseth8238]

I'm about to impose my will on you.

[@omgitsjoetime]

Ox not just having him impose his will on you. He does it while you do the same to them. Any one can work out a little and end up being able to bench or lift their own body weight but now try to struggle against your own body weight for 10 min trying to pin it to the ground while it fights back with the same strength as you. Nothing feels better than a quick pin.

[@The10thManRules]

I ran track, wrestled, play football and basketball in high school. The wrestling program conditioning was exponentially harder that the other sports.

[@stumpyalloy]

“Jon you really think I’m gonna sit here and let you kill me?” -Picograms to Jon

[@mr.lundb.6512]

Underrated comment XD

[@INKovari]

Comment thief

[@spacentime7]

Lmfao

[@StannisTheMannis305]

Lmao that’s good.

[@nicholascolace228]

I started wrestling when I was kid, I’ll always remember starting varsity as Freshman at 160, my coach bumped me up to 189 being under weight and I was beating juniors and seniors, and a lot of it came from just having mental toughness, no other sport teaches it like wrestling And I’ve done all the other sports and love them but nothing compares to it, also being mainly a wrestler growing up it made playing other sports a lot easier and not just in sports but in life too

[@CorneliusPRhoades]

Seems to be true. Sakuraba beat all the Gracies. His background... wrestling.

[@pasxidhs627]

Submission wrestling *

[@hunainh3766]

@@pasxidhs627 but still wrestling type.

[@pasxidhs627]

@@hunainh3766 yes but submission wrestling is different. You can turtle in wrestling. Doing that in any submission competition is giving a free W

[@CorneliusPRhoades]

@@pasxidhs627 He started as an amateur wrestler.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Dude it’s still wrestling, it’s like saying sambo isn’t a form of wrestling 😂. So many people are in denial that’s its the strongest base form of MMA and I’m formally a strike because of my body type and athleticism but it’s true. Khabib world class wrestling beat a world class striker in conor. Jones, Cormier, stipe, woodley, gsp, tj etc all began in wrestling. The competing in wrestling, as they said during the video is on a higher level, hence why it’s the oldest Olympic sport. A complete/perfect fighter is someone that can execute wrestling, submissions and kickboxing to a high level.

[@yohankim5577]

I only for a semester in highschool. I'm 27 now, I'm an amateur boxer. I've done taekwondo, swimming, rugby, American football, cross country, and I have to say, wrestling was by far the hardest most draining sport I've ever done. Anyone who's ever wrestled competitively for a couple of years, I respect the hell out of you. You guys are the toughest dudes in the world.

[@gquina5328]

Wrestling is the most grueling thing I’ve ever done in my entire high school sports career

[@boliussa]

why? what about judo?

[@shredgod6394]

@@boliussa Take a judo class. Then take a wrestling class. Then you’ll understand why.

[@boliussa]

@@shredgod6394 i'm too old

[@friendlyspectr]

@@boliussa the attitude and culture in the room

[@m3rtos]

i wrestled 1,5 hours a day during ramadan, that my man that was hard

[@KGaming-sb9od]

Props to you brother cant imagine the exhaustion

[@user-dt9jr3db7d]

Me too

[@danieljohnson6623]

Stop following that shit religion.. lol.. be an atheist.

[@taylorowens3721]

Daniel Johnson bro. That ain’t cool. We all have what we believe in, even if it’s nothing. As a Christian it’s great to have other religions out there. We all believe in the same thing, just have different understandings of how it came to be.

[@king-yp9wm]

@@taylorowens3721 hes a dummy

[@user-hc7ry8qp9o]

Ahhh the glory days. This convo takes me back...Up early before school training/running around the lake sweatin my ass off with trash bags under my clothes as a sweat suit. 💪🏽

[@cdrtej]

Yep

[@midget_spinner8449]

I did football then did wrestling and I’ll say wrestling is easily the toughest thing I have ever done

[@mueez2873]

this guy looking like he boutta grow another head

[@rak4643]

😂💀💀😂😂💀💀💀💀😂💀💀💀💀

[@brandongamble8311]

😅🤣

[@sigmamaleonhisgrindset]

Current D1 wrestler here. I’ve been doing it for nearly 17 years and have 2 years of eligibility left. Let me just tell you walking into a college room for the first time was nuts. The talent gap is so thin. I remember getting paired up with a few upperclassmen and getting pounded on for a few weeks before I got my first takedown. It’s the greatest honor I’ve ever had in my life though. The bonds you form through the sport are life changing, and I wouldn’t be the man that I am today without it. Seeing other combat sports legends talk about it is awesome. I love the sport and love talking to others about it. I’m getting to live a dream that few have, and it’s truly a blessing.

[@mrpringle9479]

Is wrestling only available in college or are there places you can learn? I wrestled in highschool but recently graduated

[@solodolo_mma3971]

Man I regret not start wrestling as a kid .I started 6 years ago at 26, at my mma gym.I fell in love with it. I couldn’t believe I went all those years not training. As soon as my kids are older, I’m definitely putting them in wrestling, over anything else first.

[@jpc3984]

Oh same 100%. I started wrestling junior year in highschool and I was really bummed out that I missed that opportunity. Definitely putting my kids in wrestling early.

[@solodolo_mma3971]

@@jpc3984 Yea man, it sucks that wrestling isn’t part of my family. I cant blame my parents though, all they know is baseball and football lol. We’re Puerto Rican, we’re not known for 🤼. My daughter is 11 and son is 5 now, i want to get them involved ASAP.

[@spiscold50]

Same

[@spiscold50]

@@solodolo_mma3971 Get ya son in when he's about 8 fam🦾

[@stevengalentine-mv1ut]

​@@solodolo_mma3971 put the younger one in a gymnastics or tumbling program first.....will really help them get a head start

[@isaiahcollins3451]

I wrestled in high school and I only did for two months because I need to help my family and now I work security and the wrestling moves I learned have helped me a lot more than I thought they ever would

[@stevanaldape3424]

How long ago were you in high school? I’m wondering to see because it’s been 4 years since I wrestled and wonder if I still got it.

[@isaiahcollins3451]

@@stevanaldape3424 you probably still do

[@spiscold50]

Same here

[@dolemeals8943]

Joe "Wrestlers are so Jackkked... so jacked" Rogan

[@dn07rtc9]

Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjaaaaaaaaacckkkkkkkkkkkked

[@robloxgod6945]

Badoooooosh

[@Innovate22]

One of my favorite bits in JRE history. “Wrestling is about dominating...”: Din rings the bell with his take.

[@ezra4517]

Man, even in high school wrestling was absolutely brutal. Wrestled in middle school and high school. It felt like that’s all you were focused on year round. Practices in the morning before school, practice after school, then on the stationary bike or jogging a couple hours after getting home to eat and study. Then you did it all over again the next day and the next. The thought of quitting enters your mind but you shake that off and keep at it. When you’re varsity you got several other guys constantly trying to get better to take your spot. No only that, we had drills where the varsity guys stayed in the entire time while the JV guys rotated in “fresh” while we stayed in exhausted as all hell. Wrestling is an experience I’ll never forget. I joined the military after and graduated boot camp with honors. Getting up early to PT, then trying to deprive you of food, or making you study after a long PT session was nothing. I fuckin gained weight in boot camp lmao.

[@karljacobson7811]

I wrestled for 5 years - all year long. It is one of toughest sports. Most of the football players dropped out after 2 weeks. Cutting weight is difficult too. Having the wrestling background is so important in MMA. Joe is correct, you get to control the fight.

[@nmc725]

Wtf what bjj schools is din Thomas been going to😂😂😂😂😂🤔

[@rodneycampbell2030]

Alfredo Barragan 502 I wouldn’t necessarily say that

[@crunchiest698]

Alfredo Barragan 502 idk everything is trash compared to this gun

[@seheadhunter50]

@@crunchiest698 Pussy

[@gamerepic4760]

Alfredo Barragan 502 it’s just different they are for different parts of fighting

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

Joe should get Tony on the podcast

[@md.fazlarabbichowdhury4564]

Tony doesn't like Joe

[@hadan8792]

Nah. Fuck tony . Hes horeshit. Gets dropped 3 times by d level fighters

[@paytonnewsom4430]

Tony's the type of guy to invite Joe to the JRE podcast.

[@artcore9886]

Tony is cringe.

[@num1Jaysta]

@@hadan8792 Yet he still wins...

[@silversparrow6656]

I wrestled for three years as a 'cadet' (scrimmage partner) at a Canadian university. The earliest months were exhausting - I was brought to puking several times. The constant bursts of energy and arythmic scrambling and defending made 2 3:00 minute rounds seem like a half-hour. It really is the closest you can come to a streetfight without fighting.

[@jpc3984]

Yeah I remember my first few matches and when I talked to my dad later he was like “that’s the closest thing to a brawl as you get with out punching each other”

[@patrickkanas3874]

When I was in high school, the star of our football team decided to try wrestling because it was getting more popular in school. He spent the whole season bitching and complaining about everything from how much conditioning we did to the 25 year old mats we practiced on. Mental toughness is what separates wrestlers from other athletes

[@AT-db9gu]

Wrestlers are super tough dudes for sure, but the current rule set in the UFC also favors wrestlers. The cage aspect is a huge part, no knees to a down opponent, no upkicks, etc, 5 min rounds etc.

[@goldenbaster22]

I haven't wrestled in 7 years and it is the most exhausting thing I've ever done and its the one thing I've missed the most in my life

[@paintballjunkie65]

As a wrestler, I think the only reason why it is so dominate, is because it is so common in the US. Especially the amount of people who start it at a young age. There are 100 kids who grew up wrestling, for every 1 kid who grew up boxing or in BJJ etc.

[@alainerookkitsunev5605]

But coudnt part of why wrestling is so popular compared to other martial arts be that it is very effective and professional? Karate juijitsu etc, the coaches are often not combat experienced and the methods of strenght endurance and agility training are not nearly as sophisticated in other sports than they are in wrestling.

[@spiscold50]

That's not the main reason why wrestling is superior

[@grappling.enthusiast]

Jiu Jitsu, yes, boxing??? no. There's a lot of boxers around the world, even in here Australia there's like one wrestler to 1000 boxers.

[@sayan1667]

I love wrestling. The feeling after 5 minutes of non stop wrestling is exhausting, but addictive.

[@shanehammer]

Wrestling is the best sport for many reasons, anyone who's ever been to a tournament and watched the youth compete knows how humbling this sport is. I wrestled for 8 years and I've seen more kids broken down than you could ever compare to any sport. The reason is you can't blame your loss on anyone other than yourself, its extremely personal. When my daughter turned 8 i made her wrestle, she did it for 2 years and it tought her a lot. If you want, go watch any youth tournament and i guarantee you will see it time after time.

[@DuskoRuzic]

You gotta love how passionate Rogan and Thomas are about the sport of fighting. So much knowledge...and that only comes from learning about something you love. It’s infectious just watching them talk!

[@taylorwilliamson9265]

I honestly dont think any other sport can make you lose 14 pounds in 2 hours on a daily and consistent basis

[@tristanmccray6211]

I think in terms of the ufc it’s the judging. Cause I’ve seen lots of wrestlers get in someone’s guard try to get out to advance but can’t and get sliced up by elbows or get hit by lots of strikes only for the judges to give the wrestler the round cause he was on top

[@aaronscott4984]

Not always true Randleman vs Rutten comes to mind

[@jinruizhang]

If you are in the guard, its usually you who deliver the ground and pound, not the opposite.

[@cristobalbrown-salinas9548]

Dominant position is always taken into account

[@mrzed2349]

I've trained as a boxer for close to 35 years. I have tried wrestling a few times . The next day almost every joint in my body was aching.

[@D00Rb3LL]

Just a different stimulus your body ain’t used to

[@spiscold50]

Your body ain't used to it that's why

[@thehh5118]

Then there's the casuals (e.g. Conor fanboys) saying it's "boring" cause their favorite fighters get destroyed when going up against a wrestler LOL

[@koalanectar9382]

Yeah but..... it IS boring.

[@thehh5118]

@@koalanectar9382 wrong. If you just want striking, watch boxing!

[@deltrotter3371]

Koala Nectar Conorsexual detected.

[@koalanectar9382]

Yeah Conor is like fifty times as entertaining and has an extremely good record and is an amazing striker. Should I not like him for some reason? Cause he lost to khabib? He also lost to mayweather, knowing full well he probably would going into it. It's kind of part of his MO. I'm not saying khabib isn't fantastic I'm just saying his style is boring to watch as a form of entertainment. He's very good at a boring thing.

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

@@koalanectar9382 He's s dumb mick bastard.

[@seabeebillm]

My son was an all state football player who decided to start wrestling as a sophomore to “stay in shape” for football…after his first practice he walked in the house, stripped off his sweat soaked workout clothes and went straight to bed…I walked in and asked him how wrestling practice was and he said it sucked worse than anything he’d ever done!! 😂😂😂

[@the-ironclad]

I’ve done both, wrestled and boxed. Wrestling really helps you build that mental fortitude but boxing shortens your life expectancy.

[@gokublack5620]

No biased point here

[@jpemydura4860]

Very true.

[@jpemydura4860]

In that I mean some boxers brains are mush by the time theyre 40.

[@roberts.8389]

Yea, I got mad at Ortega for trying to trike with Max early on. Bro your a BJJ expert.

[@DTS_I]

He couldn’t take max down

[@watchingyourvideo8029]

But he was getting punched in the face lol

[@substitutelife1326]

The toughest thing for fighting is having the skill-set yes Wrestling Striking but if you can't TAKE the PUNISHMENT ...take a punch take a kick, do not gas out tired and avoid submissions OR it's all for NOTHING

[@jinruizhang]

What a champion analyst, you just discovered the golden formula to mixed martial arts.

[@rudolphangel5455]

I do boxing and wrestling, when I wrestle live 3 minutes straight and the end of class, that is one of the hardest thing to do and boxing workouts felt easier after wrestling

[@joshua-to1fb]

How do u do both

[@wergar_the_warwolf6834]

At a gym or in high school? At my team we wrestle for 12-18 mins just live depending on the day(b4 sprints after drills more live etc)

[@nicolay3187]

Yeah wrestlers usually have a lot of unity with their bodies when they move so usually stronger than they look

[@MrOpticBlade]

Wish I could go back in time and start wrestling

[@floydharrison2000]

DC, wrestlers yoel romero, wrestlers Khabib Tryone woodley mighty mouse Cain Velazquez need i say more?

[@Mr47CRO]

Stipe Fucking Miočić

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

+Floyd Harrison Henry Cejudo too.

[@Luka-vl3wj]

Askren. 👀

[@Owen_O-Quinn]

Jon Jones?

[@LionHeart09]

Brock lesnar, Randy Couture, Dan Severn, Don Frye

[@empireofchaos3770]

Khabib's striking is underrated, kicks and punches.

[@razzprince2877]

Yep! People constantly talk about his striking being weak yet he's beaten everybody on the feet including the so called best striker in the world (Conor Mcgregor)

[@williammiller1536]

Khabibs wrestling is the only reason his terrible striking comes even close to working. If he were to just straight up kickbox he would get his ass owned even by amateurs. When Conor got knocked down with that one right hand if you look closely it only landed because he had his hands down for trying to block Khabibs shoot for a double. If Conor would have ignored the shoot and just kept his hands up like usual he would have never gotten tagged. He would have gotten taken down more. He was actually doing pretty good against the take downs u til his crappy cardio got to him.

[@kyehutchison1553]

I think u guys are over rating his striking. He isn't that great it comes from the element of suprise. When u think khabib u think wrestling poor striking. What he does is he takes his opponents down or fake the takedown so everyone becomes so focused on that he gets them cause they forgot that he can punch too uno.

[@razzprince2877]

But doesn't everyone consider Kevin Lee a very good striker? Because Iaquinta beat him in striking with ease yet Khabib beat Iaquinta with ease. And before you make the argument, Kevin Lee was just as threatening with his wrestling as Khabib was

[@franciscopizarro5424]

Empire of Chaos it’s the threat of his wrestling that allows him to strike . In a straight up boxing or kickboxing match he would get hurt badly

[@nickdannunzio7683]

I wrestled 7th through 12th grade... broke my HS (overhand) pull-up 44 and shoulder dip 45 record in 1974 (I was told last year that my dip record still stands) my Dad taught me to box / fight (including fighting with his Fairbairn Sikes, as he was OSS WWII)... I then wrestled at Slipper Rock U for Fred Powel (assistant Olympic coach) at 174 lbs. (rolled with the Ben and John Peterson brothers, Wayne Wells, Dan Gable, even Chris Taylor a few times), worked out and spared with the boxing team, fenced, did yoga, and weights (Bench 325, curl 175, military 165), ran more at SRU then I did in HS CC, ran a sub 5 mln mile and an 11 flat 100... after college I pushed Nautilus at Gary Reinl's Gym in NJ, (you may know him as Dr. No Ice) when I moved back to the Philly area, I worked out at Pat Croce's (of 76ers) gym, and had further weight lifting and work-out instruction from Eddie Coyle (Gold in the Para Olympics 1972 and 10 national championships and 23 world records)... shot hoops with Phil Maratelli (St Joe BB coach)... as we (Gary, Pat, Ed, and Phil) all grew up in Lansdowne, PA together... Was a Navy Seabee from '89 to '03, and held the NMCB 21 battalion position of forward observer... at 66 I still go through life healthy without fear, working out with a Gracie BJJ team... Andy Russel (BBJ instructor), Greg Ellis (shotput gold) Mark Wunderlich, (NBA ref), Charlene Morett-Curtiss (Olympic Gold, PSU Coach field Hockey) were all friends from Lansdowne too...

[@colehanna4063]

Wrestlers don’t fuck with wrestlers, we respect each other, so if a wrestler that can throw hands, I’m gonna respect him more, I loved that sport man. Damn

[@spiscold50]

Exactly, this.

[@hunterturkington6204]

Love this show

[@brayandannunzio3797]

My biggest regret about high school will always be that I never did wrestling.

[@vincentcrowley5196]

I know a former wrestler , a colleague of mine in his early 60s , he's a former car mechanic, recovering from cancer, rides his motorbike to and from work daily, about 30 minutes each way, used to ride in the annual London to Brighton bicycle ride for 10 years , is still very fit and strong. He credits his fitness for his recovery

[@MentalHealthMMA]

MMA wrestling is quite different than sport wrestling. Some wrestlers adjust easier than others of course. The mindset brought to MMA from wrestling is the most helpful aspect in my opinion; from a coaches standpoint.

[@carloscabrera2830]

Glad I’m in wrestling

[@DreamyCreamyD]

Carlos Cabrera same

[@thatindiandude4602]

Keep at it and happy hunting fellas

[@Guccisteaz]

After wrestling, everything in life is easy- Dan Gable. I wrestled 7 years and I firmly believe if everyone had to endure a wrestling practice there would be a lot less complaining 😂

[@RellyBo30]

Keep at it bro. I quit my junior year in high school cause i took 2 losses and my ego took a hit. Leaving the team is stillone of my biggest regrets. But i left the mat with more knowledge to defend myself if i ever go to the ground

[@mylefnepple1936]

MilesDavis I fart a lot 💨 that’s why I don’t train. Because someone would grab me and I’d fart for 4 seconds.

[@jason4750]

My grandfather saw the titanic and he warned everyone that it would sink but nobody would listen. He told people a few more times and then he was kicked out of the cinema.

[@Moabd19]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 died laughing at work 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sunilpoojary7245]

😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ivanhernandez5306]

@@Moabd19 leiterly makes no sense

[@Moabd19]

@@ivanhernandez5306 estaba riendome mucho

[@rreach9463]

@@ivanhernandez5306 just shut the fuck off why are stupid fucks like you even on the internet

[@AxelArmentaMMA]

Strikers fall in love with the ground game and wrestlers fall in love with the striking

[@woodah33]

He said he disagreed, but said nothing to counter what Joe said about wrestling lol

[@rudai123]

"Embrace the gind"

[@barkercherry9936]

Love the gind

[@uwotm8634]

Strikers don't go through the grind of wrestling as often, the only ones I can think of are Thai strikers and the Kyokushin guys in Japan

[@ddvsgd9508]

Boxing is one of the hardest sports to practice, 98% of UFC guys would die just due to the amount of time you have to fight, 50 minutes of fighting with little breaks.

[@MrBolanchaw]

@Rukh there is a multiple world champion in muai thai that got beat up by grappler in one fc

[@MrBolanchaw]

@Rukh but some wrestlers and pure grappler are very tough

[@tmt1675]

Facttttts!!! Wrestled since three years old used to love when kids growing up would say I don’t wrestle I fight lmao. I would always say if I can control u in wrestling I can control u in a fight and that’s always how it went. It’s the most important base to have for fighting. It’s been pretty proven for the most part a wrestler can pick up striking a lot quicker than a boxer could ever pick up wrestling. If just naturally have heavy hands and are a decorated wrestler like Woodley or Hendricks in his prime you will probably be a champion! Every one that didn’t wrestle usually has a story or their friend had an experience where they tried a wrestler half their size and got scraped and learned their lesson for life!

[@nimanemat7507]

I would say wrestling is the mother-of-all martial arts; from both a historical and effectiveness perspective.

[@aleksisuhonen5433]

And not just martial arts, but all of sports!

[@DH.91]

The point being made is spot on a world class wrestler with no MMA experience will last longer maybe even win against some MMA fighters.

[@ddss6227]

Andy Kaufman greatest wrestler of all time. RIP.

[@choochdrews]

There wasn't a woman on Earth that could beat him

[@aaronscott4984]

@@benedictamezah7074 Aleksanr Karelin is his name the most feared Greco Roman wrestler without a doubt

[@sassythesasquatch1823]

Neil de grasse Tyson was captain of the wrestling team in high school, think about that

[@Dan-vz7xu]

Of a small science academy, he even acknowledged it's not comparable to being a captain of a high school team in the Midwest.

[@sassythesasquatch1823]

Dan but still he's still pretty cool and he was actually jacked when he was younger

[@donovanb9020]

Wrestling really does foster an alpha male mentality. It's great. Even in high-school. Constant misery made "worth it" by a few minutes of real competition. We lived for real matches, where we could prove we were top dog. Even the games we played in the room. King of the Hill, after everyone was absolutely dogshit tired, proved who was the best in the team. It was fucking awesome.

[@Dee2Righteous]

Its always better to teach a striker to wrestle than a wrestler to strike 🙌🏼

[@spiscold50]

Teaching a wrestler to strike is lethal lol

[@GymOwnerGuy]

Back in high school we had a guest coach. Dude was like an alternate for the national team and an assistant coach at Seton Hall U. He ran conditioning and I literally questioned if I would make it out of that room alive. I was a sophomore and decided THAT day I would never wrestle in college. RIP Kenser Defresne

[@jakemorrison548]

Khabib is the perfect example of “stick to what you know” or “Stick to what you do best”. Yeah he would trade shots, but that was just to set up the takedown. I don’t understand bjj black belts or high level wrestlers wanting to fight on their feet. That’s where Ronda messed up. You have to do what got you to the dance

[@motorve]

Also in wrestling there are many rules (like clasping of the hands, no head lock without an arm in, no spiking, no joint manipulation, etc.) that do not allow many things which forces you to adapt. So when you grapple under "no rules" like BJJ or MMA you go BUCK WILD.

[@markwhitton8785]

Started wrestling at 9 yoa, helped significantly in rugby, eventually was almost second nature able to dominate some of the bigger and scarier guys, once took them to ground, it was all over.

[@ddr_drogba777]

This guy's forhead has a story of its own!

[@johnathanvale8634]

The wrestling room is intense. Being an insecure 11 year old in the middle school wrestling room was intimidated man. Good thing is that no one on that team could beat me the next year

[@Guy-cs8yj]

Few things more dangerous than a wrestler who can strike. That’s some scary shit.

[@aaronscott4984]

Yup Randy Couture was the first that was well rounded at it in UFC

[@Guy-cs8yj]

Aaron Scott he’s in my top 5 favorites of all time. Having both literally means you’re dangerous at any time from anywhere.

[@BackyardBroadheads]

I wrestled with a friend 20 years ago and my heart rate has not been that crazy since then. My heart rate when I see a buck in the woods is crazy but it’s different.