John Boyega is done with Star Wars and talks about how Disney handled the Mosses Ingram backlash

[@1johpo]

Lemme put it this way; I bought a Finn replica jacket back in 2015 when TFA released and EVERY time I went out wearing it I received praise and compliments. But by the time TROS released and I’d reluctantly wear the jacket, I didn’t even get a second glance. It really showed how quickly the Finn fan base died out.

[@greenliongirl07]

To be fair, while I did have afew issues with TFA it was an okay Star Wars movie. TLJ . . . You don't want to hear my rant.

[@1johpo]

@@greenliongirl07 OH…yes I do. Rant away! 😏😏😏

[@sneedmando186]

I’d high five you if I seen you

[@greenliongirl07]

@@1johpo 1. The lack of a cohesive story, not just as part a trilogy but as it's own story it came across if the writers didn't even know what they wanted the film to be. It was like they wrote a bunch of ideas in a hat and pulled out a card so they could use the ones still in the hat for the plot. 2. Rey is boring. She doesn't change, she's too perfect and too skilled with the force for a random scrapper with zero training. She can't even get injured. The one moment that hinted she might get tempted by the Dark side was wasted. (Also, calling herself a Skywalker is a slap in the face, but that isn't til Rise of Palpitine.) If not for Luke, I couldn't have cared less about her. 3. Finn was wasted potential. I was more excited for his story than that of any of the other new characters, Kylo being a second by about a mile. Him being sidelined and stuck with Rose, who's getting her own point, on the dumbest/pointless mission written. 4. Leia was done dirty. Her character suddenly had force training that hadn't even been hinted at and came up out of the blue. Her treatment of Poe was horrible and she trusted Holdo, who can't even dress like she's military on a mission-- I'll get to her next. 5. Holdo is the dumbest character ever. Her character design looks to have ripped off both Power Rangers in Space and Star Trek, however they made her look more like a diplomat than a commander. She refuses to tell anyone her plan, which results in a mutiny. She just exists to make Poe look like an idiot. 6. Rose made no sense. Her costume was laughable, her character felt like a crazy fan girl and honestly the only time I actually liked her was when she was mourning her sister. Her free the animals on the casino planet actually caused more problems for those kids. 7. Plasma-- this character has no story, especially for one that was implied to be important. 8. The longest, slowest space Chase ever. . . The logic behind it makes no sense, not even in science fiction terms. The Rebels should've been over taken, if logic were at play. It drags out the run time and ultimately is pointless as nothing that happens with this storyline that really affects the overall plot in a positive way. 9. Luke was done dirty. His character in this film made no sense. He found good in Vader, but one bad nightmare and he wants to off his nephew and give up on the Jedi Order that he was trying to rebuild from scratch. It also makes less sense that he would leave a map to his location if he had no intention of being found. 10. The hit you over the head feminist bs. I hated it in GB2016 and here it was turned up to 11. They purposefully made all the women "right" and strong and perfect while making all the men weak, lazy or dumb. Their costumes for the women were ugly and some lacked shape. Sorry I only have enough time for 10 points right now.

[@raeldri5867]

That's rough buddy

[@dereklopez9060]

I don't blame John Boyega, his character had so much promise and it's unbelievable that he was made into an utter fool in later two films. he was completely wasted in the sequel trilogy. Disney has the audacity to call fan's racist because of the Moses Ingram situation, and look what they did to John Boyega's character. Disney: Moses Ingram is getting backlash, we must stand with her. Me: Like you stood for John Boyega?

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

I mean Walt Disney was *SUPER* racist, and he formed the companies hierarchy. I don't think Disney's ever had a black person or a woman as a CEO... soooooo, I don't think it's possible for a corporation to be anti-racist, as monied interests will always come first.

[@BladeValant546]

I mean people were bitching about a black storm trooper lol. No anti sjws and those morons aren't th voice of star wars critique.

[@yourstruly4817]

He's a straight man, so in Disney's point of view, he's 2/3 evil

[@sneedmando186]

Honestly it’s both and it’s nothing new. Liberal vs conservative racism, it doesn’t matter. It’s for someone else’s benefit. Look at all of Disney’s history

[@BLACKandZEN]

"Fin" started off as a great character with great potential , but they turned him into a weird Rey fan boy. I wish that Disney 's push for Inclusiveness was extended to black men not just badly written stand inside for the main villian.

[@starwarsvault4154]

I feel for John Boyega, he’s voiced his displeasure on several occasions for how Finn was handled. That character had a lot of potential

[@deathpie24]

@em they weren't racist, they were greedy for the China money

[@ChristianGabino]

Same 💯

[@shadowofhawk55]

It fucking sucks. I hope whatever next bit Sci Fi series that kills Star Wars does Boyega Justice.

[@sneedmando186]

It was one of the biggest problems of the sequels, along with forgetting Poe

[@justbob333]

@em nah diney was only caring about the color green, that is why in foreign (china) markets Finn is de emphasized, and full on relegated to the background in the films

[@LaughtersHouse]

They messed up his character. He was the face of the trailer. First character on screen

[@deathpie24]

With a jump scare lol

[@jackbits6397]

except in China of course, Disney is perfectly fine with racism if brings in a few more bucks.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@jackbits6397 Black people don't care about China's racism either dude. Don't try to rile up people who don't care

[@theimperialist2686]

Don't blame him. Disney did him dirty over the character arc of Finn.

[@liberallatino]

It wasn't Disney. Rian Johnson was the one who took him off the board and put him in the background.

[@theimperialist2686]

@@liberallatino Rian Johnson may have done the crappy writing, but overall it was the decisions Disney made.

[@deadeye4047]

What character arc?

[@deadeye4047]

@@theimperialist2686 Correction: it was the decisions Kathleen Kennedy signed off on. Everything had to go through her or an appointed trustee. Disney and LucasFilm are to blame here.

[@shawn092182]

@@theimperialist2686 in other words, it was Rian Johnson's fault.

[@Kimberly-hb1om]

It's heartbreaking, because he was such a genuine fan of the saga, and they treated him so poorly. I thought his character should have been the lead, the hero. A former stormtrooper turned Jedi? Now THAT could have been interesting! Plus, he's an amazing actor that could have done a brilliant job portraying all of the complexities of such an arc. I can't blame him for being done with SW.

[@muigokublack6487]

It would've been! They could've also played into his former status as a stormtrooper to help free other troopers of their brainwashing. He could've been a symbol that would inspire people to defect from the FO.

[@Warstub]

@@muigokublack6487 Yes, even if he didn't turn out to be a Jedi, the whole former-stormtrooper could have had a major impact on the entire story ... Both he and Rey could have played a duel part as inspirational leaders: her for the regrowth of the Jedi, and he for the citizens rising against the (what should have been a diminishing) empire.

[@DrakeBarrow]

He basically should've been Kyle Katarn (not literally, though I'd not have objected if he was). I wanted a Finn/Poe movie so much, but...

[@noiwontsignyourarmpit5263]

So disappointing that instead of getting an interesting idea like a Jedi stormtrooper, we essentially got Disney screaming "HEY GUYS LOOK IT'S LUKE SKYWALKER BUT A GIRL!".

[@JaphethOmmodaheus33]

It could've been amazing, but star wars decided that it was more important to sell out to a feminist narrative then make a decent film...

[@HighHeelKnight]

Boyaga's teaser trailer reaction was so strong, it was like he didn't know he was in the movie. 🤣

[@Wackaz]

He's such a wonderful man. 2015 was an exciting and beautiful time - a simpler time.

[@jperigo95]

@@Wackaz before the dark times, before the entertainment empire....

[@vidarhjal]

@@Wackaz 2015 was when things started getting bad, at least in Europe.

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

Years later and I’m still so salty about this; they did him so dirty. Imaging being a lifelong Star Wars fan; landing the role of your DREAMS, and being part of a new cast that’s supposed to mark the triumphant return of Star Wars movies to the media landscape. The first big installment since the original series ended with episode 3. I remember how excited and happy he was; seeing videos of him hugging his dad after watching the official trailer release for episode 7. It must suck so unbelievably hard to feel disrespected, used, and undervalued after everything. He’s right to be so upset and want nothing to do with Star Wars, and that’s a real shame.

[@liberallatino]

Agreed, but remember it was Rian Johnson who put him on the backburner and blew up everything Abrams was working towards. In Rise, Abrams said that what Finn was trying to tell Rey was that he could feel the Force. I think if Abrams had made the second film, Finn would've been at least a Jedi in training by the third film.

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Reva is so terribly...forgettable lol. Not a peep since the Kenobi series ended except analyses of just how bad her character was.

[@sneedmando186]

Because they made her a plot point, not a protagonist or antagonist

[@zelithfang2365]

I'm not gonna lie, I had to take a minute, constantly repeating her name and pronouncing it in different ways in my head, to see if I could recall who the heck that name belonged to. Of course I finally remembered, after a hilariously long time mind you, who the heck she was and what she was in. I honestly think I subconsciously suppressed the Kenobi show deep down in my mind. I haven't though about that thing in awhile. So needless to say, yes she was definitely "terribly forgettable". Oh fun fact, she was actually supposed to *die* . At least that was the original person in charge of the show plan was. He said with all the horrible stuff she did he couldn't honestly think of a way she could be redeemed.

[@kareemsmith8957]

@@zelithfang2365 oh but Darth Vader is redeemable though right? 🤡 Wtf did Vader do to earn redemption? Save his son, who he turned over to the emperor in the first place?

[@kareemsmith8957]

No character is more forgettable than Rey. What a shit show she was

[@zelithfang2365]

@@kareemsmith8957 hey, it wasn't me who said it dude, it was the previous person in charge of the show, I'm just saying what he said lol. Either way not important, what was important there was how forgettable Reva was.

[@Avarn388]

John Boyega was done dirty. Whatever one may think of his personal politics, he is a fantastic actor and having rewatched Attack the Block I forgot how good he was,. Instead he was reduced to a nothing burger of a character and worse his backstory. He was a Storm trooper but was a janitor. WTF. Lando and Mace Windu and Joelee Bindo were all black but had positions of authority and leadership. They weren't stereotypes. This is why I find ti hard to take LF progressive message seriously. Progressive when it is most convenient. Not one bit sincere and worse they create props instead of people. LucasFilm deserves to be on trial for the cultural vandalism of SWs but they especially need to be reminded of how they did Boyega dirty. He deserved better. The entire ST cast deserved better and SWs fans deserved better.

[@mrrandrade]

Jolee Bindo is amazing and I'll totally consume extra content with his side story. Also color was a total non factor on making him incredibly interesting with his views of the force, even if the game itself only rewards those who go extreme light/dark.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@mrrandrade Makes one wonder why didn't Cris Avellone used him in the story of Kotor 2 given it's introspective critical analysis of the Star Wars Mythology and George Lucas's worldview regarding a spiritual power which controls all things. I can only assume he didn't use it to avoid contradicting either of the 2 endings where Jolee either lives or dies.

[@whitelasagna6786]

The only solo movie I would show up for is Finn.

[@scifiguy26]

@Neil your comment was perfection👍🏾

[@javiervasquez625]

@@whitelasagna6786 I mean a "Ben Solo" prequel movie COULD have worked if only to show the early days of Luke's time as Grandmaster of the New Jedi Order alongside Han and Leia's family life with Ben but due to the sad passing of Carrie Fisher this is the one story worth telling that we'll never be able to see.

[@RogueFox2185]

No one can really blame the guy after how his character was handled throughout all three movies, (who should have been the main protagonist) Finn was the only other character of the new cast besides Kylo who had some potential.

[@dereklopez9060]

The sequel trilogy is so disjointed in many ways, but Kylo Ren was the only decent character thanks to Adam Driver. I hated the way he was killed off in TROS.

[@ImJustTen]

Poe had potential

[@Stlaind]

I honestly think most of the characters had real potential, if they were written well. Poe had a real heroes journey, with actual failures and growth. Phasma could have been a fantastic secondary villain... But was immediately turned into a joke with just a couple of scenes. Rey, if she had only had actual failures, meaningful loss, or real struggles could have been fantastic. Instead, she succeeds immediately at everything. Finn could have been a more intense examination of a former stormtrooper, but was turned also into a joke of a character.

[@merafirewing6591]

@@Stlaind Yeah. Many of those had a lot of potential.

[@MrBrothasky]

Finn TOTALLY should have been the main protagonist!

[@Adam_X78]

I don’t blame him

[@chasehedges6775]

Same

[@MCsCreations]

No one can blame him.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@MCsCreations Go support his latest film, he is doing Indie movies like Rob Pattinson from Twilight did to shed off Twilight fame

[@vitus6302]

@@MCsCreations blame him for what? For constantly changing his mind whether he is open to act in another Star Wars movie?

[@GrievousReborn]

My only problem with their tweet defending her was them not clarifying that is a vocal minority and does not represent the entirety of the Star Wars fan base they made it seem like it was the entirety of the fan base

[@mikedrop4421]

As a white person I'm all for educating the ignorant white people who think racism is dead but by making a huge deal when a handful of people in any group are racist it really does nothing except help boost their racism signal and make black people hate us even more. It's a viscous cycle.

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

Shouldn't have to if you are not racist ppl sending racist shit then they are not talking to you

[@liberallatino]

@@revolutionarydragon1123 They SHOULD clarify the amount of racist tweets she received. Should the government NOT have clarified how many Muslims are actually terrorists? How many blacks actually commit crimes? They clarify these things all the time because they don't want to give the wrong impression of how many problematic people there are within a group. That's called stereotyping. You clearly have no problem with Star Wars fans being stereotyped as racist even if the overwhelming majority of them aren't.

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

@@liberallatino even if they did ppl would still bitch about it so what difference does it make? if you feel that called out by tweet saying "hey guys can y'all not be racist that would be great" that said more about then Disney.

[@physical_insanity]

That's the thing, though. They viewed any criticism towards Ingram as racist or being based in racism. Anyone who cried out against it was immediately a racist to them. To them, it does represent the entirety of the Star Wars fanbase besides a small minority. If that's how things are, might as well bite the bullet and go full racist.

[@TacticianMark]

I respect Boyega for standing up and wanting J.J. to come back as part of his conditions on coming back, but: I really did not like a lot of what J.J. Abrams did with the sequel trilogy. I'm personally hoping that Disney/Lucasfilm gives Denis Villeneuve a chance with Star Wars (assuming he's open to the idea of it, of course). His work with Blade Runner 2049 and Dune has been absolutely phenomenal.

[@artnull13]

Star Wars is dead buddy

[@karekarenohay4432]

Remember what Ron Howard said after his work in Solo: Star Wars was in risk to becoming toxic for the career of filmmakers.

[@e-satan9032]

Not everything is JJ fault. KK did the worst damage. For example JJ wanted to explain how palplatine returns (he may be foolish and careless with star wars, but he's not completely stupid, he's a director! off course he has the common sense of wanting to explain this) but it was KK who didn't allow him to explain in the movies, she wanted it to be explained in the books so people would buy them.

[@deadgalaxy1]

J.J. Had an idea it was Disney (and LucasFilm) who kept disagreeing with his ideas and stopped him from doing them

[@danielschoch4881]

@@e-satan9032 Bot that the books are explaining it more or properly.

[@FTChomp9980]

I remember when I was still excited for Star Wars that was when the episode 7 trailer was shown I thought Finn was gonna become the next hero then he was pushed over for Ma-Rey Sue. Disney treated John Boyeaga like crap so honestly I would love to see him in other projects because again Disney treated him and Star Wars like crap!

[@MrBrothasky]

How satisfying would it have been if the dark Rey vision came true, and Finn turned out to be the hero who would start a new Jedi tradition? I was so wanting that to happen. It seemed as though it was getting set up that way.

[@SuicV]

How they handled John Boyega's character was really crap, that's for sure. But lets be real, which sequel character did they handle well at all?

[@the_weed_in_your_garden9319]

Seriously. The characters and the plot were absolutely nonsense. I'd say it was a case of style over substance but the style was crap too.....

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Luke! LOL. I almost got you there, didn’t I?

[@shiptj01]

None.

[@ridensroom6957]

BB8? 😆

[@MikesGearGarage]

Babu Frick? Lol

[@stephenglowacz4981]

Fin and Poe should’ve had way more screen time together, even if they went the romantic route w them which I don’t think is the best option they had good chemistry in the beginning of the film I wish they would’ve became great friends like Luke and Han :(

[@staroceans8677]

To me the last trilogy was poorly written and the characters had no chemistry whatsoever, they were forgettable!

[@CyberYork123]

Both Finn and Poe were marketed as important characters to the story at the time of TFA. Then they were spilt up the TLJ without any need for thee story. It would have been so much better, if they had gone on Finn's mission together. The trip still would have been a failure. But their realtionship would have benifit from it. They had to waste their time in TROS on "female love interests" both of them had zero chemistry with. Just to make them both to appeal more straight. A romance always was too much to hope for, but they manage to give both of them so little new to do, that it was a utter disappointment - and the rest of the story wasn't working either. So I can understand that John Boyega has his reasons not to return to Star Wars. Because I have my reassons to do the same. Star Wars is stuck in the Episode IV to VI circle like forever now. And I don't need it's nostalgia over and over again. Moved on the fresher stuff.

[@barricadedpurifier]

Finn’s character was a former storm trooper and it would be nice to see insight as to what life as part of the first order would be like. Too bad it was squandered.

[@liberallatino]

Blame Rian Johnson.

[@PaulA-pg7jm]

I agree. Finn could have been a great character in his own right. Instead Disney has him running around the galaxy squawking "Rey Rey " like a damn parrot.

[@shawn092182]

@@PaulA-pg7jm you mean Lucasfilm

[@joeyiwuajoku3394]

@@liberallatino blame racist reylo's

[@Wackaz]

Your description of Twitter was absolutely perfect - and precisely the reason why I left. I don't think I've heard such an accurate and adequate summary of what Twitter is, who exists on it, and what behaviour people succumb to; truly the darkest sides of people are revealed, and it's so depressing... You hit the nail on the head man. Thank you.

[@AustynSN]

I've always thought the story should have gone towards having Finn and Rey as dual protagonists, but philosophical antagonists against each other. The story should have had Rey wanting to revive The Jedi Order of old, but Finn realizing their imperfections when he realizes that had they been around, they would have taken him from his family as a child, the same as The First Order did.

[@darko-man8549]

He got less and less screen time in favour of boring. His character had amazing concept with a chance to approach PTSD after breaking psychological indoctrination into a facist army

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

The traumatized stormtrooper rejecting his conditioning storyline could have been the most epic and grounded human-drama story the series has offered since the OT but IMO Disney just wanted to keep stormtroopers as dumb cannon fodder that people don't feel bad for. All about the $.

[@darko-man8549]

@@spaceghostcqc2137 IMO it could have been BETTER than the OT in terms of character growth. such a wasted potential

[@suzygirl1843]

@@spaceghostcqc2137 Rey is traumatized. Reva is traumatized. Why are they labeled Mary Sue diversity hires and not Finn? Misogyny at best

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

@@suzygirl1843 I didn't label them as such and share your revulsion at the ugly attitudes you're critiquing. I just felt like the most interesting (yet poorly realized) story set up in the sequel trilogy was the conscientious objector stuff that grounded Finn's character.

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

He had such a good personality man it’s like Disney really knows how to fuck with their own actors in Gina Carano, John Boyega all of those guys got really fucked over it’s genuinely unfair

[@skyirwin1445]

Gina and John are not even close to being the same situation.

[@nocrtname]

Yeah Gina had it 10x worse, she was being bullied online and instead of calling out the bullies, Disney sided with them and fired her.

[@skyirwin1445]

@@nocrtname nope

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

@@skyirwin1445 well both were products of huge miss management and downright incompetent so I think it’s fair to compare it

[@osuka6193]

Totally agree with John here. The TFA trailer was deliberately trying to attract black audiences by deceiving them into thinking Finn was a Jedi. Meanwhile, his image was shrunk on the Chinese poster. When it came to the later films, his character was sidelined because they knew he would no longer attract black viewers who weren't already fans. The romantic tension he had with both Rey and Rose was glossed over in TROS I think because Disney, despite getting all high and mighty about racist fans and overblowing the problem in the fanbase, were legitimately concerned about the backlash a high-profile interracial relationship in the franchise could bring (to this day, there hasn't been one). So instead, a new black character was introduced for Finn to have that romantic tension with and his character arc was poorly concluded.

[@heintz256]

Why does Disney still pander to China anyway?

[@joshmay7921]

@@heintz256 one word…money. From my limited understanding, China has some of the largest audiences for film in the world. Thus many companies see Chinese filmgoers as their golden goose, and will bend over backwards to be allowed access to them.

[@osuka6193]

@@joshmay7921 and important to remember the OT wasn't screened in China when it came out so, outside of the niche sci-fi fan community, there isn't a huge love for Star Wars in China like there is in other countries. The Prequels and Sequels were their introduction to this world. So Disney is desperate to get that large and lucrative audience to care about Star Wars.

[@Arander92]

That’s not true. Solo featured an interracial couple involving a white man and a black woman. It’s only if the man is white

[@osuka6193]

@@Arander92 My bad only saw Solo the once

[@blackcloud4126]

I was super excited at the idea of Finn going from stormtrooper to Jedi when TFA trailer dropped. I thought we'd see Finn train to become a jedi, while Rey slowly fell to the dark side from jealousy/low self esteem at NOT having force powers. Captain Phasma could be the one to turn Rey evil (not having force powers herself) while Phasma rises through the ranks as Kylo slowly began to doubt his path down the dark side, with Han and Leia's heroic deaths to save him being the final push for him to rebel against the dark side. Or something more interesting that what we got at least. They had options. They chose the lazy route of Mary Sue-ing Rey and putting out a lazy story that made zero sense.

[@christinehancock5995]

Racism? Yes, it probably happens. But when Disney execs, the actors, or the twitter team start accusing the audience of widespread racism or bigotry ahead of the product's release, I take that as a strong sign that the movie or tv show is crap and not worth my time.

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

The only racists I can see are the ones who screwed over Finn's character arc for a white Mary Sue. Ironic isn't it?

[@Gamersunite2506]

I hate throwing around the word racism, but being a diversity hire is nothing short of demeaning

[@SportyGeek12]

@@Gamersunite2506 Our company has a Diversity and Inclusion Department with the Director being a black gay male...and they created several "Diversity Groups" composed of employees that want to sign up and they praise them on almost every single call. Every single one of the last 10 people promoted in my department all White with the exception that 2 of the white males were LGBTQ for "Diversity" metrics.

[@Gamersunite2506]

@@SportyGeek12 lmao

[@suzygirl1843]

@@Gamersunite2506 agreed. Like in Nope, Jupe was there for the Asian audience

[@bassmasta93]

Should’ve had Finn discover he has the force in episode 8, and by episode 9 be in full training with a green saber (and showed him getting his crystal) I blame rian Johnson mainly. But JJ is to blame to.

[@0311uli]

And I'll add Ray should have turned to the dark side by the end of Episode of 8 were it almost happened, but Disney chickened out and have both of them fight to the death at the end of Episode 9.

[@taqresu5865]

Of all the characters introduced in the Sequel Trilogy, Finn had the most potential for a creative nuanced character arc. There is so much a writer could do with an ex-stormtrooper who was drafted in as a child. I went into TFA thinking he was going to be the main character (based on the few trailers I saw). I didn't particularly like TFA but I still thought Finn was a character with immense potential... ...then Ryan Johnson attacked... Finn became a buffoon and a literal sponge for almost all the exposition and messaging TLJ forced on its audience (even the stuff Finn should have already known after being a child slave himself). And TRoS did Finn absolutely no favors. I don't think anyone could blame Boyega for being very upset and disappointed.

[@zachcurtis1283]

It's ok John. I'm done with Star Wars too.

[@nicholaszakus7491]

Finn could have and should have been so freaking cool.

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. What a waste

[@LastNameTom]

After The Force Awakens, Finn was straight up the Tokin black dude.

[@rachelpops9239]

I know so many missed opportunities

[@thecraplordsell4575]

More like a minstrel 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@joeclaridy]

John: I am open to return as long as it's Kathleen Kennedy, JJ and maybe someone else from the team? Me: THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SCREWING YOU OVER JOHN!!!!!!!

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Amen to that!!!

[@joeclaridy]

@@marsoelflaco5722 I mean between JJ lack of writing and KK "the Force is female" b.s. why would he want to do business with them again?

[@marsoelflaco5722]

@@joeclaridy Agreed.

[@Arander92]

Clearly they weren’t the reason he was sidelined if he’s still praising them. It’s gotta be a higher up white male Disney executive with racist leanings

[@Milothemighty10]

Poor guy thats all I can say poor guy. All the new cast must have been ecstatic and now most of them want nothing to do with Star Wars now

[@skits_3d824]

He could have been a STORMTROOPER JEDI that idea would have been AWESOME but no. They just had to do him dirty like that. Ugh that just depressed me 😭

[@bluebirdsigma]

Imagine him shooting blasters with the force like they were drones

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

He’s pulling a Gina Carano except he’s just canceling himself from Star Wars

[@skyirwin1445]

You couldn't be more wrong.

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

@@skyirwin1445 how so he saying he doesn’t want to be in Star Wars anymore

[@infinitespace2520]

@@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother This guy is a troll, he's been doing this shit to trigger other commenters.

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

Finn could've been the next Mace Windu a strong Jedi that could've taught the next generation of Jedi...but nope let's turn him into a minstrel show character. Edit: When I saw the first trailer I legitimately though John's character Finn was the main protagonist.

[@merafirewing6591]

Same to!

[@TheLedonne3]

That character was boring AF. The only time I've seen Samuel Jackson absolutely void of personality in a role.

[@blaxpoitation8528]

Same here. Thought he was gonna be a solid soldier (even a kind of special forces commando type), or become a Jedi apprentice when the new Jedi Order was formed. Instead he was the comedy relief, captain simpy. He had so much potential as a character. They ruined Luke, Han, Poe, Leia and Finn.

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

@@TheLedonne3 I was thinking of Mace Windu from the from the shows not just the movies. I agree that in the movies he was incredibly shallow.

[@L337M4573RK]

John Boyega is a good actor, and he certainly did the best he could with what he was given as Finn. That said, the Moses Ingram situation wasn't about "racist comments"...Disney only wanted you to THINK that it was. If you actually read the negative comments (and I mean all of them; not just the few that Disney points out), you'd see that the main complaints were in regards to how her character broke per-established lore, how her character arc didn't make sense, how her character yelled and screamed at the most confusing moments, how her "goal" was never going to work, and/or how her character knew things that she logically couldn't have known. When added to the fact that some of the writers had never actually seen Episode III: Revenge of the Sith nor Episode IV: A New Hope, it just makes matter worse. Fans and critics are very much aware that Moses Ingram's character was primarily there for "Woke diversity" reasons, and they're simply sick of it. Disney, on the other hand, doesn't want to admit this fact, thus they've obviously resorted to falsely labeling ANY negative comments/critiques as "racist", "sexist", "bigoted", etc. in order to draw as much ATTENTION away from the truth as possible.

[@andrewhite4431]

I shouldn't have watched and most definitely not read the comments. I also have not watched any of the main Series after Episode 9. Reading these comments are truthful and triggering, because I loved the franchise. Now all that is left is the sour taste of blue milk in my mouth.

[@andrewhite4431]

I went off topic...You are right about Moses. I don't know if it's her acting or the writing and directing. The character just doesn't work. I may be critical in movies/shows but it's the truth. You have stated everything I thought about Kenobi and her character.

[@MagnusOrkzyd]

This I think sums up most of the outage or anger regarding recent events: Its never about their race or enthicity. It is just that their newer characters are cringey, poorly written, written just to cater to social or political atmospheres, or simply waste a huge amount of potential. Disney just uses the 'racism' card to blameshift to the fans for not liking the lack of quality.

[@MrLemon44]

I'm pretty sure Disney staged the whole Moses Ingram thing. And while I could very well be wrong, please hear me out. After the Priemere of Obi Wan Kenobi, at least within a couple days at least. We started seeing those posts from the official Star Wars KZbin saying "There are a lot of people in Star Wars, don't choose to be a racist" and while I've mixed up a lot of the words there most people should know which posts I'm talking about. Moving on, Moses Ingram also made a video on her Twitter talking to a Hollywood reporter, saying that Kathleen Kenedy came to Moses and asked if she had received any hate or racist backlash from the fans, and she stated that she in fact did NOT and if she does, she would kind of move on. And not but 3 days later, she makes another video on her Twitter talking about the supposed THOUSANDS of racist and hate mongering DMs from Star Wars fans. Yet only 3 texts were shown. The timing of it all, is a little suspicious. I know I didn't do a very good job talking about this but if you go to KZbin and type in the search bar "Disney calls Star wars fan's racist" it'll be literally everywhere. you can find a video that describes the situation in much better detail

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

Do you need to see every tweet every person said to her to believe that she got racist shit sent her way. It's say more about you than it does Disney that you think it's stage. I've seen some racist star wars fans in Twitter, it not hard to find and definitely doesn't need to be stage, because the racist do it so well on their own.

[@RandomInternetProfile]

Racism is a supply and demand system. There's more demand than there is a supply. People need racism because people like this guy above me thrive on it. Corporations know it and know it sells and brings publicity. They also know its a scapegoat for actually criticism for poor casting, writing and directing.

[@theatheistbear3117]

@@RandomInternetProfile Exactly this. It’s gaslighting.

[@dgeci]

EXACTLY. This guy completly misses the point about Disney pushing lies for some buzz and to cancel any critism towards this 200% SHITTY SHOW.

[@shawn092182]

@@RandomInternetProfile and yet, reality shows that there's no shortage of supply.

[@tomusmc1993]

I thought Finn as a character was done wrong on so many levels. I wanted to know more about that story. It never happened. Having said that, I'm pretty sure Mace Windu is "of color" soooo the idead that he was excited to see a black jedi feels about right.tge marketing was all about hiding or obfuscating Luke's part in the story. That's it

[@charleswalls1127]

Every fan loved what Finn could have been, and blamed the writers for the wasted the potential, but never had an issue with the actor.

[@toowingless9473]

“Finn didn’t get a good arc unlike the white characters” bruh did he SEE what happened to Luke

[@buskergirl]

Exactly. I mean, which character had a good arc...?

[@DrakeBarrow]

Nobody did in terms of writing, but Driver got a full arc and development and Ridley got to be The Last Jedi by the end of the travesty.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I think he was referring to the main characters. And even with Luke, he did have a character arc. A bad one but it still existed. Finn on the other hand didn’t have anything.

[@admiremymoonsault]

i think the plan was to eventually make finn a jedi at some point but the last jedi and lack of planning sadly pushed his character to the side 😒 he had such potential and he could see the bs disney was doing. thankfully he’s not afraid to speak his mind he deserved so much more than what he got 😤

[@MCsCreations]

Honestly, Thor, the only way to really defeat a troll is to troll him back in a humiliating way. Ignoring may be enough most of the times, but doing it this way put fear not only in the specific troll, but in all of them. But, still... I don't see how it would be right for a company to do something like that. They just need to ignore, really, or it could be worse for them. Either way... I don't have a solution either. Only more and more questions. 😬

[@joeclaridy]

In the case of Moses Ingram was their response made from sincerity or was a preemptively strike to get ahead of the reaction of Kenobi? Star Wars has been around for 5 decades with minority characters for 5 decades but now racism just now became a thing? I'm not saying this to downplay and wrong doing but come on the Moses Ingram incident is different from John Boyega incident and Disney knows it.

[@MCsCreations]

@@joeclaridy Yeah, I agree with you. It's too convenient now.

[@adamh6494]

I liked Finn in the first movie. My hope was after his injury he would start studying to be a Jedi, but was struggling with focusing on revenge. Also he had chemistry with Mary Sue but that was killed in the second movie. He should have been a bad ass in the series and a force to be reckoned with, but instead he was screwed.

[@14bface]

When you think of Disney era lucasfilm that were involved with the movies, they not only failed the original canon they even failed their own. Planning, greed, and just incompetence is why we are in a place where an actor doesn’t want to come back

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Well said/written.✌🏽

[@wafflingmean4477]

I feel like John Boyega could have been such a good thing for the franchise in general, both through his acting, but also through how much he clearly cared for the story. Anyone remember that interview when he was talking about them saying "They fly now?!" And John was like "They've doing that since the Clone Wars!" He was clearly a fan. People who care deeply about the story they're in tend to give it their all and usually have good relations with fans.

[@Wackaz]

Man, this is honestly all so sad. John Boyega is such a wonderful man. Just seeing his vehement love for Star Wars is amazing and heartwarming - the fact he's a Star Wars fan and the fact he was so hype when seeing himself in that trailer, brings me back to an exciting and better time. 2015 was that exciting and beautiful time, my friends - a simpler time. I miss the state of the fandom back then, it was such a brilliant era in our lives. I miss it, I really do. Everyone was far happier, and the hype for that build-up was unmatched - it was such a warm time. As for Rian Johnson, well I don't think it was intentionally racist for him to diminish Finn's role in The Last Jedi - just a very poor mistake; in all honesty, JJ Abrams was the reason why the Sequels failed, ultimately, not Rian Johnson - he set everything up (which was pretty awful), and Johnson just continued what he thought was a natural progression from said set-up (like Luke being in exile for example).

[@JeneralGared]

JJ sucks but Rian killed the sequels. Having TLJ pick up seconds after TFA was the worst thing they could have done. Had they skipped some time she could have trained with Luke and most of the Mary Sue complaints would disappear. Rian is also the one who ruined Luke and made him a shell of what he used to be.

[@thaThRONe]

Solid content which is the case more often then not with this channel. The only thing I strongly disagree with is the idea that TFA didn't do enough to setup Finn for something much bigger in the 2 remaining films. The scene when he breaks his 1st order programming certainly gave reason to believe he had a greater purpose. Snoke scene about feeling a disturbance in the force came after that scene long before we would assume it was talking about Rey. Then the whole situation with Maz. Saying what she said about what she sees in his eyes. On top of giving him a jedis weapon and telling him to use it. There were other signs as well.

[@cora2658]

Watched the Lego Star Wars Summer Vacation on D+ yesterday. It wasn’t much to look at, but I did notice one thing….Finn had more interesting character development written in a throwaway lego themed animated short than in the entire sequel trilogy. *ouch* I really loved Finn’s character from TFW. But I dunno, I guess they didn’t really know what to do with him and he ended up getting largely forgotten. I can’t tell you how mad I was when after TRS came out, JJ announces that the thing that Finn wanted to tell Rey was that he was force sensitive. I’m sorry. But that isn’t the type of detail that you hint at multiple times in a story for a main character and then conveniently leave out in a film. And then need the writer/director to tell us after the fact what it all meant. 🙄 It’s awful storytelling period. Finn/John Boyega were done dirty, and that probably more than anything else is what bothers me the most about the sequels.

[@MaryAnneRosato]

When The Force Awakens came out I was hoping to see Finn as the main character. A stormtrooper redeemed becomes a Jedi.

[@egs_nicolas]

I'm sure Disney made the decison to make the character not prominent to appeal to the Chinese market. I mean they shrinked his character on the movie posters in China compared to the rest of the world. At the end Disney cares about how they perform to their shareholders. They will do anything to milk the franchise.

[@christophertaylor9100]

I don't blame him for being displeased with his character. He could have been the best character in the series but they treated him like a minstrel fool.

[@FiliusFidelis]

The Finn character held a lot of potential, felt he quickly though got downgraded to comic relief sidekick. As for Boyega, from what I've seen him in other roles he's a competent actor.

[@rogerpalsgrove9678]

This is why I love this channel. Your commentary is always level headed and comes from the heart.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Hey Thor, have you started on KOTOR 2 yet?

[@vincent207]

I can’t really blame him. I’d feel the same way in his shoes.

[@staroceans8677]

I am so tired of these Hollywood types whining, I don't care about their issue as they were lucky to have a part in such a legendary franchise. Quite frankly I thought his character and the trio of characters had no chemistry whatsoever.

[@lachieechoecho]

The fact you have to seperate the actor Gwendoline Christie from her character Captain Phasma, is a mark against those who would attack you if you didn’t. Thank you for your work, it is most appreciated.

[@kadomaix8698]

Disney did Finn wrong for sure. They also totally screwed up the characters of Luke, Snoke, Rey, Kylo and pretty much every character in the sequel trilogy and beyond.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Disney/Lucasfilm screwed up everything Star Wars. It's incredible.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ryandodrill6904]

Something that's been kind of bothering me and it made me think about it when we say things like "well there's millions of Star Wars fans so it's not surprise that some of them do bad things." How do we even know the people who do these things are actual Star Wars fans and not just literal trolls? What I mean is these are comments on a completely open and public forum with no restrictions on who can join or even verification of who the person is saying the things. I'm not trying to deflect or hide any potential problems in the fanbase but it's not hard to imagine either we have some bad people just going on any fan page and making stupid comments, or they say "hey look I'll get Disney to condemn their entire fanbase by making a few comments."

[@JoiskiMe]

Finn's potential with being an indoctrinated clone rebelling against his superiors was so interesting to me. He was the character that I wanted more of....such a waste

[@vader86davedestephanis]

You worded your beliefs perfectly could not have done it any better, well done great channel I don't always agree with you but that's why I think you're channel is awesome thanks for the videos

[@paulmaloney4387]

Out of everyone involved with the sequel trilogy, I empathize the most for John. He's been a hardcore Star Wars fan since birth (hopefully still is 😓) and his character was ruined by terrible writing. On top of that, he had to deal with a shitton of racism from "StAr WaRs FaNz".

[@sealionstudios8597]

I recently completed writing a treatment for my version of the sequels based on George's notes and outlines (that we know of) and I enjoyed it so much that I decided to write a standalone Clone Wars-type volume of stories to go along with it: focusing on characters and events from different eras and some of my friends will be contributing their own stories to it. The first thing I'm gonna do with it is give Finn a story where he joins with a former, older Imperial Veteran turned Resistance member and they lead a stormtrooper rebellion against the First Order. He also encounters the spirit of Luke who gives him a bit of Jedi training and Finn constructs a light saber in the workshop on Batuu before he and Kylo Ren have a duel towards the end. Sound good?

[@Spyralkin]

"...to get black people excited for a black jedi." Mace Windu: am I a joke to you.

[@cerulee]

The thing about Mace Windu is that people weren't excited about him for being black. They were excited because that's Samuel L. Jackson. Who he was mattered, not his skin color.

[@laisphinto6372]

i really dont get the point that for some weird reason people think black people werent allowed in the white boy Club star wars. Lando Carlrissian literally blew up the second death star and was in charge of the rebel fighter force.

[@Spyralkin]

@@cerulee ah, so you mean a healthy, normal approach? Yeah, those were the times...

[@Spyralkin]

@@laisphinto6372guess some things can be easily overlooked for the sake of the agenda.

[@DarthApathy]

I miss when I could get excited about and look forward to screen adaptations of my favorite worlds or to more visual content for my favorite film/tv originated universes. Now I more look forward to KZbin video about those things, like yours or like DVD’s, or Midnightsedge, than any of the actual content.

[@bobthebonzo]

Thor, please with the Clickbait title. You’re the most reasonable SW channel on YT. He never said “I’m done with Star Wars”. It was all pretty low key. I heard the interview. Please stay on the qui gon path

[@Wackaz]

This. He also lied about China.

[@NightmareTroubador]

I'm sad because I'd like to see more Finn. But I don't blame him for his choice and I understand not wanting to come back after how things went down in the ST. He and the character of Finn deserved a far better story than what we ended up with. At least he and Oscar Isaac seemed to have become fast friends.

[@A7XKoRnRocks1]

John Boyega was wronged by Disney.

[@Area1313J]

I absolutely love how you articulate all your stances in these videos! Love this channel

[@slicerneons3300]

Far from the only guy disney Lucasfilm let down. But you would have thought they meant to do his character justice. I don't blame racism(except for the poster fiasco) but I sure blame incompetence. So Ditto, but shorter.

[@Arander92]

“I don't blame racism” That’s because you’re too weak to confront this hard truth that Disney is in fact, a deeply racist company

[@Loki_Yogi]

The more I think about and hear about this whole story of Star Wars and Disney condemning racism, etc.., the more I'm convinced that they truly were using those unfortunate comments to tamper and preemptively silence any criticism of the shows or movies themselves. Think of the "sword & shield" analogy and it's makes perfect sense. 🙏

[@MedalionDS9]

Excited for a Black Jedi... so I guess Sam Jackson's Mace Windu doesn't count?

[@bramderacourt9499]

I mean I get where he comes from; Disney first used him for a bait and switch and from the second film on banked entirely on Reylo. I usually roll my eyes when actors start to complain about white privilege and such but in this case Disney clearly prioritised Rey and Kylo while sidelining Finn and Poe, so I can understand why it comes across like that from his POV . Real shame as he was super passionate about being in Star Wars, too.

[@raiderlove5923]

I so feel for John Boyega. His character of Finn was apparently set up as a stormtrooper who defects from the Enpire. He discovers that he might be Force sensitive. And the various film makers end up doing their own thing with the character that doesn't even address Finn's force sensitivity.

[@liberallatino]

I think if Abrams had been in charge of all 3 he would have brought up Finn's Force sensitivity in the second film. But since Johnson did nothing with him in Last Jedi and also undid many of the things Abrams was clearly working towards, Abrams had no time to do what he wanted in the already overstuffed third film.

[@ltsmash1200]

100% agree. Incompetence and lack of planning was the problem with his character and with the trilogy as a whole.

[@dadetomric]

So Ewan Mcgregor will call out some people for racist remarks about Moses . But then he said nothing about Disney degrading John Boyega on the China poster. Hypocrite !!

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

Kind of ridiculous that they’re developing a show around Rey instead of Finn. The entire sequel trilogy *was* her story. John Boyega deserved so much better.

[@___David__]

There were one or two racist messages sent to Moses Ingram. That's all they ever shown. In MILLIONS of people who watch Star Wars, just a couple. But because Moses Ingram acting was garbage and her character was even worse, Disney used her as a human shield to try to minimise the very valid criticisms of the series. This is the new playbook of corporations when they produce garbage products and people reject them. Just look at the pathetic response to the criticism of the awful CGI in She-Hulk. Or to the criticism of how Amazon is raping Tolkien's characters by making them black or butch or anything else they were not. It's NEVER because the product is bad, it must be because the audience is "racist", or "misogynistic" or "homophobic" or something else. This is the "you're holding your phone wrong" argument from Steve Jobs turned up to 11. Fortunately, though, more and more people are getting fed up with it and these shows are facing massive backlash and performing terribly.

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

Don't know why people still make excuses for Jar Jar Abrams and The Force Awakens. Abrams basically made poor decisions for Finn's character. He made it the comedic relief character and a side character for Rey to shine. The sequels were destined to fail.

[@thefastmagician]

Such a shame. And they made him in charge of waste.

[@jimberjamber8540]

The whole twitter thing really just confused me when it happened. I totally believe that she would get racist and hateful messages, but like you said, why are we acknowledging the trolls? There are ALWAYS going to be people like this, in every franchise, movie, tv show, and there's no changing it. By shining a spotlight on it you'll only make it worse. I miss when filmmakers actually had confidence in their product, and didn't have to make a twitter post defending it.

[@Beeejamin96]

All the power to John, he’s a great actor and Disney doesn’t deserve someone with his talent any integrity

[@dwaynecuster]

When I first saw Force Awakens, I was hyped for Finn and Rey to become Jedi. It's unfortunate what happened after TLJ. Johnson destroyed the whole franchise in my opinion. As a Star Wars toy collector, I only buy products that represent the original trilogy. Don't get me started on how bad the Reva character was written. Ingram didn't have any choice but to play it the way it was written. I loved her character in The Queen's Gambit.

[@galenjoyce8452]

I think JJ Abrams made some stupid mistakes in The Force Awakens script but Rian Johnson by far did the most damage with the unwatchable last jedi. After seeing that I didn't watch Solo or the rise of Skywalker.

[@retsz]

It's easy to make the claim that he's not coming back for now, but wait until they burn thru all their ideas and need a Finn prequel series and drive a dump truck full of money up to his front door.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Only time will tell.🤑 Disney/Lucasfilm really screwed up Star Wars. It's unbelievable.

[@aidankelley2696]

i completely understand his inconsistency of "wanting to be in starwars and not wanting to be in star wars" because sure if he can get a movie gig, thats a movie gig, but he probably would rather do something else instead so he can really show his talent as someone else, but if hes unable to find work, starwars it is

[@Blackdawn80]

I'm Hispanic and grew up with a black friend, and we still talk about how neither of us became fans of Star Wars because Lucasfilm represented our skin colors or cultures on the big screen. We loved the story and the characters with all their glory and flaws. ANYONE who has to see themselves on-screen somehow and specifically regarding their non-standard sexual preferences, YOU are an idiot and not actually a fan. Grow some thicker skin. Hollywood is also screwed up by pandering to any single group of people. Hollywood is based in Western white European culture. That's like asking Bollywood or Korean cinema to "diversify" their casts and stories. Stop complaining and get back to quality storytelling and character building. Start casting actors and actresses based on merit and not on woke checkboxes.

[@thejackal9834]

5:12 reminds me of Mr Plinketts bit about the Urban Market in the Phantom Menace review

[@Wackaz]

You're a good, righteous, honourable and intelligent man, Thor Skywalker, thank you for being the person you are. But I know you're intelligent enough to know that the whole "Finn shrunk on China poster thing" was a sinophobic lie told by Western media.

[@eq1373]

So what's the truth then?

[@mikestanmore2614]

Good on you, JB. You've joined the rest of us. Though, to be fair, it took a while. I gave up when the Force awoke.

[@kalzium8857]

Disney claims to be progressiv. But at the end the sequel triology was about 2 white characters (rey/kylo). Finn was okay in tfa, but in tlj he got rian-johnsoned.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Don't forget the lesbian kiss. Wasn't that romantic!🤷🏽‍♂️😉

[@dannyboyex]

I definitely took the bait thinking the guy in the trailer holding a blue lightsaber would be a Jedi at least at some point. I was fine with Rey being a lead character in the movies, but not fine with her being THE lead character, to the detriment of everyone else.

[@theangryimp1345]

I mean he's a bit childish as a personality. I don't want him or any of the sequel actors back. Thay are almost all toxic, arrogant and only cear for the star wars that suits them not the fans. I couldn't give less of a dam.

[@devinhargrave4723]

Speaking from the perspective of a star wars fan who is black, they did my boy dirty. Watching the trailers they made it out as if he were AT ABSOLUTE WORST the second main character. He gets more promo time throughout the trailers than basically anyone else. He's the one holding the saber to end the trailer off. It literally says "its all true, the dark side, THE JEDI" as the camera pans over to Finn, he's the one holding the lightsaber to confront Kylo. And that moment was the peak of the character over the entire triology. I don't think it was a deliberate targeting of black actors by the star wars team. But the photo shrinking thing was definitely a bad look and something that happens without ever really being addressed, or continuously black characters seem to be the one tossed to the wayside throughout hollywood in general I can see why he may have felt targeted.

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

Anyone feeling too sympathetic for him should remember he's one of the most egregious "activist" types out there, and only deigned to criticize Disney for how they treated his character once he was unlikely to do any more Star Wars films anyway. I've never liked him personally because I could plainly see how much of a hypocrite and a snake he is.

[@joeclaridy]

He took the money and became bitter. I would've been in his corner had he made this known 5 years ago and not mention Darth Kennedy as one of his allies

[@apstrike]

I was underwhelmed by Disney Star Wars from the beginning, and one of the primary reasons that is so is the handling of Finn. Who takes the child soldier and thinks they'd be great comic relief? Even that could work if it was dark, but not as a buffoon. I also feel like Disney and Lucas don't do black male characters well. Lando is a 70s throwback and Samuel L Jackson is just himself. Nowhere can I think of an excellent male lead character who happens to be black, or who plays their character to echo historic black male roles as a preacher or soldier without ruining the sci-fi element. Star Trek and Babylon 5 did this really well, starting with Captains Terrell and Sisko, and in Babylon 5 virtually all the black male characters are as well done as Captain Panaka, who's the only black guy in Star Wars, apart from Finn, who I would like to see get more screen time. I would also have liked to see more Lando, but the Lando of the books who is much more we'll rounded.

[@shawn092182]

You forgot Moff Gideon.

[@apstrike]

@@shawn092182 ​ @shawn092182 Fair point, I guess. As Star Wars repeatedly sucks it's hard to keep up with all the garbage. I liked Mando's final confrontation with him, but the show has enough weaknesses I have trouble seeing it as real Star Wars. I only count Rogue One and maybe the Mandalorian. None of it holds a candle to something like Arcane, which is very different, but it's important to note excellent writing is out there.

[@LesWalker2023]

Finn was, hands down, my favorite character in the Sequels. His story was the most interesting, and most compelling. The whole demasking of the stormtrooper and finding a person in there, and then them becoming a hero, was wonderful. They did end it well, to me, but not fully. And even though I liked Rey a lot, and I liked Poe too, and felt they almost missed his calling, but in the end, it did work out. Finn had the best moment to me, hugging and crying with his friends and rather his newfound, family at the resolution of the story. I just wish Finn had been more in the center of things. I collect 1/6 figures, and I had to custom craft a Finn figure that suited me, and keep him front and center of my Star Wars collection! Go Finn!

[@sterlingjones1187]

Honestly, it's not a surprise that John Boyega called it quits when it comes to Star Wars. As you can see in that short clip, he was excited and ready to take the character Finn to awesome places. We know how that ended up (wasn't his fault). This may sound harsh, but I don't want him to come back. I want to see Mr. Boyega just kill it with his versatility in a whole assortment of movies. In a way that will remind people like Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson (and others) how badly they squandered a golden opportunity. I do agree with you Thor: Star Wars is a great vehicle to bring in characters of every shade and creed. However, GREAT STORYTELLING, WELL WRITTEN CHARACTERS AND GREAT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS PARAMOUNT!!! If those things don't come first, it's the Sequel Trilogy all over again. I wish the very best for John Boyega and his future endeavors. May the force be with you...always.

[@muigokublack6487]

Obi-Wan Kenobi perfectly described Twitter all the way back in '77. "You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

[@MrChupacabra555]

As a Black Man: As much as I loved how many of my people loved what I have been told for all my life is 'Just a goddamned Comic Book [movie ^_^]", I fully agree that the persons behond green lighting the movie did not care about how the movie would be received by the black populace. However, I do believe that the writers and actors have that in mind when writing/portraying the characters. Likewise, I feel that the writers/actors for Black Panther 2 really feel that they are paying proper respects to Chadwick Boseman's passing by having the character pass as well (he so defined the character, it would be hard to accept another face as the same character), even though there is/was a movement to keep the Character of T'Challa alive, even if the actor is no longer with us.