JOHN DUDLEY'S HUNTING BOW & ARROW SETUPS

[@timbow50]

John, as an old bow hunter I would say “ ride it while you can “. During my best years there wasn’t the awesome equipment of even the last 10 years. The last five years we have the best archery equipment EVER. I am disgusted that I now have to shoot 60#’s or less. My skill level is only like 280 of 300 on a 40 yard max 3-d course. I shoot some arrows at least 5 days a week. Some days 10 shots some 30 to 40. At 72 years old this 2023 season may be my last, who fricking knows. You are on the ride of a lifetime which I’m so glad for you. Young and strong but it will be gone. The information you pass along is so valuable to thousands of archers because it’s facts you present from years of getting it done. I personally applaud your hard work to have gotten to this point in your life. 👍👍

[@tacticalskiffs8134]

I competed with compounds, but have always been a trad hunter. At 64, a lot of the trad crew that split off around 1980 are 10 to 20 years older than me, and were still hunting with sticks of 40, sometimes 30 pounds. These guys still nail a lot of deer. They are probably shooting 400 grain arrows at 150 fps, and still getting it done on whitetails. So with a modern 60 pound bow, you can trim a lot off your current setup before you have to worry about calling it quits. Extreme FOC arrows and COC single bevel heads are really helpful when these kinds of power losses are a reality. Yet there were people doing this stuff with 30 pound hickory stick bows and regular trad wooden arrows also. Really helps to get close, and old timers know those tricks.

[@Gibsonlife573]

You're a true inspiration John Dudley

[@savedgesurvive]

Yeah buddy. Whitetail season has been a go here in MN. Kind of sucks rifle started but a well. Just got to be a little more careful

[@savedgesurvive]

Just ordered the Levitate yesterday.

[@nockonarchery]

awesome!!

[@shawnb6944]

How do you go about finding the ideal arrow length when adding weight up front?

[@unadillariveroutdoors9690]

Dud ur lookin swoll brother! Killer bows man!

[@jefferymorgan8135]

Hey John love your videos ! I just have a quick question on my arrow setup! my bow poundage is 65lb ! arrow length is 29.5 ! Arrow spine is 340 FMJ ! my bow draw length is 30 in? This is my first year of really trying to dial in my setup I usually just relied on my bow shop to do this for me but after watching your videos it made me more interesting and doing it myself. Looking forward to hearing back from you ! 💪 Just wondering if you think i need more weight of front ? And how much with this setup ?

[@shabbublii]

with the length of your draw and arrow, if you add anymore weight to the front you more than likely will have to bump to a 300 spine in those fmjs. even if you are at 65 lbs, and depending on how efficient the bow is, down to about 62ish lbs you may even want a stiffer spine. but if youve been shooting the 340s and havent seen/experienced any inconsistent groups id say keep shooting!

[@yfz450rider39]

I just built my first set of arrows. I need 31" ish arrows so it was a hard time making a light arrow with good FOC. 31" Sonic 6.0 300 spine, 50gr brass insert, 125grain point, 3 AAE Max Stealth vanes. Ended up 483gr roughly with 12.5-13 FOC I think. Only shoot a 60lb bow right now.

[@Nurquhart88]

You should build a couple with a 4 fletch. I need a full length arrow and I tested 4 fletch this summer and it tighten my groups up alot. I should 32in draw 626 gr arrow and 79lb

[@yfz450rider39]

@@Nurquhart88 was really trying to keep the weight down in the backend. That heavy of arrow for my 60lb bow won't have a very flat trejectory though. I definitely do want to try out 4 fletching though!

[@Nurquhart88]

@@yfz450rider39 the 8gr on your setup might loose you 1fps at most but I think you'll gain way more beneficial accuracy. Your already in a nice foc spot and again that shouldn't change a terrible amount.

[@yfz450rider39]

@@Nurquhart88 fair enough! Will have to pick up a Bitz. Using an EZ Fletch atm.

[@kylergiroux2831]

That seems low for what ur stating. 175 point weight with a 300 spine arrow should be higher foc then that. I would look at Black Eagle Carnivores in 300 spine. Work great for me my arrows are 30.5 and with Black Eagle the straightness is measured end to end or the arrow not 28 so they will be more consistent for you vs other brands where the ends are wonbly sometimes.

[@diablerouge9896]

Hi, does fletching colors are important? Are they some colors see by our prey?

[@qacz71]

Hey Dud does your arrow wind up being around 29-30” since you have that condor wing span? 😂 I have been experimenting with the 5mm for a bit, but seems you wind up on the weaker side of spine in comparison to others. Thank you for all the vids especially the bow build/tune/repair ones you done over the years!

[@ChilleDxFighteR]

It does me and Dudley are close to the same draw length and the closest I can get away with at 30.5 was 29 when I shot that draw length I’m now at 31 to 32 depending on the bow and if I’m at 32 I can’t shoot anything under 29.5 and that’s like almost point touching the rest

[@savedgesurvive]

@@ChilleDxFighteR that's strange. My draw is 30. I get my arrows. Shaft to shaft at 31. Then with the Nock and HIT insert and bar (on 5mm). Right under 31.5. On the 6.5s sa.e and those have the orange 6.5 hit inserts that come out a little.

[@TheKevinwildman]

As a new bow hunter can a 310fps bow with a 500 spine with a 125 grain broadhead work for moose

[@matthewholmes8638]

Why were you trying to keep the speed at 280fps?

[@jons7e]

Is that light bow much better for your shoulder? I would think that alone would be a game changer

[@BigGamePursuit]

Whats you thoughts on the 75gr stainless halfouts? Im shooting the 260 axis with 125gr head and they drop like crazy. Probably best to use them for tree stand hunting only and find something flatter for elk.

[@tacticalskiffs8134]

Sounds like you are reaching way out if you are are worrying about 125 grain heads and drop.

[@buildingfreedom2127]

What kind of kickstand are you using John?

[@jasonknapp3637]

What spine FMJ did he shoot when he went up in poundage? Did he stick with 300 with FMJ at 80lb anyone know?

[@duggaboy]

How about you ask HIM.

[@JacksExoticReptiles]

Does anyone know how to setup a tradional bow so that i dont hyperextend my arm to try and get the full draw back? I have mine just slightly off so that i need a couple more inches in order to get a full draw back to the back of my mouth. If i try to pull all the way to the back of my mouth than my arm has to be hyperextended in order to get the power i need to hit a shot.

[@2Boutdoors]

untwist your strings

[@cazeeaustin1790]

Thanks!

[@F22Ra]

I have the exact same setup 🤘

[@TedBunnndy]

May I ask what your FOC is? With only 150 grains up Front, I feel it's hard to get around 15%ish.... Cheers

[@80whitetail]

What brand and model arrow is he shooting?

[@GodsLandDownUnder]

I so bad want one of these bows. I live in Tasmania, I don’t think anyone has seen or used one here.

[@joshuasweet1532]

Do they have hoyt or mathews over there ?

[@GodsLandDownUnder]

@@joshuasweet1532 obviously we can order anything and archery shops will stock what brands they stock. Here in Tasmania there isn’t a single archery shop in the entire state so seeing anything before a purchase is impossible. I currently have a bowtech invasion (oldie) and last years elite enkore. But the LEV is my dream bow.

[@OutsideIRL]

Any info on the stabilizer?

[@nockonarchery]

I use the stabilizers I helped designed called RIDDANCE. They are the best stabilizers I have shot. You can find them on the Nock On Store. Good luck!

[@johannel7018]

Mr Dudley, now that you shoot the best bow, please try shooting the best broadhead, Ramcat 125gr.

[@colemontsandy3424]

Im a big guy im 6.2

[@russelllangworthy8855]

John Dudley is the greatest bowhunter that ever lived.

[@interestedmeow]

False. His name is Cam Hanes.

[@russelllangworthy8855]

@@interestedmeow Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he went by John Dudley. It even says John Dudley on the title of the video.

[@milkrvr4088]

One vote for ol Fred bear 🐻

[@russelllangworthy8855]

@@milkrvr4088 Fred Bear doesn't count.

[@wswillett]

Fred Bear Chuck Adams Randy Ullmer and many many others know better...oh, when Dud is in the Archery Hall of Fame, call me.

[@wayneeden98]

Why in the hell does it have to cost $1900 ,I need lottery money for that bow

[@ct5465]

No point in shooting 80 pounds. People get pass through on bison with 50 pounds but some dudes think compensate shooting as much as they can tell their friends about.

[@tjblackforest69]

You can stay further away, cant ya?

[@willdesorcy5868]

Your so full of yourself.

[@ct5465]

@@willdesorcy5868 you’re* and your comment makes no sense. Didn’t mention a single thing about me.

[@brandonwilliams5766]

You apparently don’t understand how physics works.

[@virgilwilliford1581]

Ain't America great CT,nobody even asked for your idiotic opinion and you gave it anyway!!!

[@TheKevinwildman]

As a new bow hunter can a 310fps bow with a 500 spine with a 125 grain broadhead work for moose