John MacArthur calls out Mark Driscoll as a Charismatic fraud / Recalls discussion with RC Sproul

After his own cult kicked him out Mark Driscoll tried to reinvent himself. Despite all we know Rick Warren just posted a video defending him. #smh

[@RandomDay247]

John MacArthur calls out everyone but himself another deceiver

[@ForthrightForChrist-ts4io]

You should be careful to so lightly accuse an elder of the Church of the Lord Jesus.

[@daniellecruz2917]

​@@ForthrightForChrist-ts4io he's not God. He's a man in error

[@loganross1861]

It’s pretty crazy. Literally every single preacher is a false teacher, according to every other preacher. Every single denomination makes compelling cases for why the other denominations are fake teachers. It’s literally 🤯 for me, as a sincere believer who wants to go and do the right thing with the right doctrine. Everyone thinks they’re right and tells you everyone else is wrong. What in the world are we supposed to do

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

That's not really true, those who teach salvation by grace thru faith in Christ alone, that is the truth. Look to Evangelical / Fundamental churches and follow the Spirit's leading.

[@coreylatham9236]

It's like rappers that dog on other rappers lol

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

@@coreylatham9236 every organization and institution on earth is to be held accountable. Happens in music, church, politics, education, media, literally everywhere.

[@coreylatham9236]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 In this instance; accountable to who?

[@southerngal9374]

I keep going back to.. all modern churches tend to follow men's theology instead of God's. They put more stock in an academic's opinion than the Bible. The simple fact that most protestant churches are meeting on Sunday and never the actual Sabbath speaks volumes. Only 8 got on the boat! You have to ask WWJD and look for yourself! I was raised southern Baptist, but even that denomination has allowed CRT and homosexuality to gain a foot hold. We need to bring back home churches and meet on the Sabbath. That would be a start, because organized religion has failed!

[@wg7644]

A Calvinist is someone that falls down a flight of stairs and says, "I'm glad that's over with". - former college professor of mine

[@person6768]

What's the implication?

[@M.L.7]

@@person6768 ​I think what is trying to be implied in that statement is that nothing accidental ever happens in a person's life. Everything that happens was meant to happen. It's a mockery of Calvinism in suggesting that it's wrong to believe that every aspect of our lives is ordained and planned by God, including falling down the stairs.

[@Setapartbytheking]

Despite the labels, and debates, what does the Bible say over and over again? That “Jesus was delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God,” that “no one can come to Jesus unless it is granted to him by the Father,” and “that certain people were designated for condemnation.” Isa 46:8 “Remember this and stand firm, recall it to mind, you transgressors, Isa 46:9 remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me, Isa 46:10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’ Isa 46:11 calling a bird of prey from the east, the man of my counsel from a far country. I have spoken, and I will bring it to pass; I have purposed, and I will do it.

[@Bitcoinfam]

I feel really uneasy about how much pastors have been calling each other out since the Internet has given such a massive platform to them. You gotta be so careful what you say about others. Especially if the people that you are “calling out” have other flocks and are actively leading them to Christ. My suggestion is to do what God‘s word says, and go to them in private and address your concern before you slander them publicly.

[@chrisdiaz577]

These are wolves leading people astray. "Leaders" of churches . I think its appropriate to warn others especially when it comes to God's word.

[@laurarose2412]

Many many pastors have gone to Driscoll in private. He currently has ZERO oversight at his church. He is a minister dictator.

[@paulremnantone1102]

Mark Driscoll had problems like everyone else, including me. However Mark repented and God is using him today. To heal families, talk about the end times. Spoke about Israel war, the sermon was made one year prior the war. He gave it on the Sunday of the war. This man hears from God!

[@dannyh.2861]

Yeah...he sure does. God even spoke to him and showed him pornographic images (according to Mark)!

[@voolforyou]

I'm sorry but I do NOT believe he has repented. His spirit is haughty and cocky and he now preaches far right ideology and tries to disguise it as Christianity.

[@MatthewDrennen-wf7bp]

@@voolforyou his spirit? or flesh? he recently said he struggles with arrogance and it’s something he has to work be mindful of. is there anything he has preached to your knowledge that is unbiblical?

[@Fullsendfilosophy]

@@voolforyouJust because you think it’s far right doesn’t mean it isn’t in the Bible

[@67L48]

I think one of the chief issues people have with Driscoll is precisely due to the fact that he has not repented. If you believe otherwise, please post a link to the video or discussion of that repentance. I'm not necessarily arguing that he needs to -- I was just struck by your assertion that "However Mark repented." That's not a sentiment I had ever seen and I see constant lamentations to the contrary.

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

Mark Driscoll is low hanging fruit. John should focus on his own ministry.

[@jamesmcallister9645]

Exactly, and repent wholeheartedly for saying if anyone takes the mark of the beast they can repent and still go to heaven when the bible states the opposite, John mcarthur said this and it contrary to God's word but he has never repented?

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Driscoll is not low hanging fruit. He is doing a fantastic job sharing God's word. Highly recommend listening to a few on his teachings. He is doing outstanding work.

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

@@eliara-thevoice8430 No.

[@TheBigCheeseTP]

​@Michael-Archonaeus yeah... he is killing it. Mark isn't one of these weirdo televangelists

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

@@TheBigCheeseTP Oh, he is a weirdo alright.

[@jahnotdead]

Nobody else sees a problem with pastors calling each other out from the pulpit instead of teaching God’s words?

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

No, Paul called people out in his writings which were read in churches as sermons.

[@jahnotdead]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 Paul wrote to HIS churches to remove false teaching amongst those who were HIS sheep. John just sounds bitter at a pastor who has nothing to do with his flock.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

@@jahnotdead false, today with internet, radio and TV a false teacher can get into every house and church with the pastor never knowing so they must do things like this so the sheep are aware of threats.

[@jahnotdead]

They MUST? I disagree. With the word of God in plain access to everyone, from Genesis to Revelation, this notion of needing your pastor to filter and vilify certain people on a personal level instead of actual false teaching is strange and reeks of arrogance. I'm not even going to get started on the "being charismatic". @@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454

[@coreylatham9236]

So who is in authority if we are just calling other churches out? No one has a clean closet here.

[@organicharvestministries]

Im new to this conversation ... I just discovered Mark Driscoll and I absolutely love his teachings at Real Faith. Can anyone suggest a good 3rd party resource for info on what led to Mark leaving Mars Hill? It doesnt sound like the "Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" podcast is unbiased. Thanks for any help

[@67L48]

You won't find an unbiased reporting of such a dynamic, massive, and complex organization like Mars Hill. That's not possible. Christianity Today has a post-modern, feminist bias to its organization and favors progressive ideologies. As such, this bias does, in fact, show up in the podcast you mentioned. With that said, I'd still recommend starting there. It's a pretty good deep dive into why the church imploded and the production quality is among the highest I've ever listened to. There are some objective sins that disqualify Driscoll, such as unrepentant plagiarism ... which is both lying and theft. From an administrative perspective, including managing teams, organizations, and businesses, Driscoll was riddled with problems and fault. From a personal style perspective, Driscoll was a mixed bag who blurred lines between righteous anger/bullying, convicting his congregation/yelling at his congregation, boldly stating facts/using profanity and other inappropriate language, and so on. From a theology/doctrine perspective, Driscoll mainly gets it right and continues to get it right. In the end, what made Driscoll so good at Mars Hill (boldly preaching, calling people out, stripping away worldly excuses) is exactly what mad Driscoll so bad at Mars Hill (crossing lines, bullying, arrogance).

[@Christfollower89]

Watch Alan Parr's video on him. He explains a lot about Mars Hill

[@4thFloorFitness]

I’ve been following Mark/watching his sermons since the Mars Hills days. You’re right, the podcast you mentioned is extremely biased and is the only “evidence” anyone against him seems to give. He is repentant, he’s talked about snippets of it across many sermons since then. And the evidence is in his current ministry and teachings - absolutely solid biblical preaching.

[@owenhill-vf7ko]

If you can find a former associate pastor that is willing to talk. That will be your shocking truth.....

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

There is nothing anyone needs to know. He went on his own because of disagreements and disharnony. No one needs all the details. His work speaks for itself. God Bless 🙌 🙏 ❤️

[@gabewalker7604]

Mark repented, spoke openly about his sin like in Matthew ch. 7, and NOW calls out fake Christian’s. The people at the conference saw that and wanted him back on stage!!!! There is a revival in this world of Christian’s and mark driscoll sees it and I think is spearheading it for us gentiles. He spoke truth! GOD Bless mark

[@Maryismymom2]

😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Amen. He is handling things...righteously....the others....not si much. Mark Driscoll is an excellent disciple.

[@owenhill-vf7ko]

Mark goes way back before this last publicity stunt! Buying His own books to boost sales, look into the debacle He left us at Mars Hill. Never apologized, you shall be known by your fruit. PS, Mark is a Speaker not a Pastor.

[@HD-vy4vz]

As brothers in Christ let us give attention to who our First Love is and faithfully serve Him Jesus, with all our heart mind and soul. Love never fails....😊

[@blazers1177]

I don’t know when this was made but Mark Driscoll is doing a great job today preaching the word of God particularly the role of Christian men in the family and society. This is a slippery slope bc the classic reformers like Calvin and Luther would not consider a “reformed” Baptist like MacArthur with a dispensational bent to be truly reformed either.

[@BigBrand777]

Denominations are NOT the same as THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST

[@ResisterCIO]

The Church Visible - what we see driving around and the people in them. And the Church Invisible, all the Believers in Christ.

[@brankachristopoulos9609]

I don’t see Pastor Mark Driscoll as being a charismatic Pastor. He speaks the truth and it’s a problem with people because they don’t like hearing the truth.

[@s.garywerley3580]

Mark Driscoll is the best preacher I know and have loved for 20 years, I am slightly charismatic, the Holy Spirit lives in me

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Driscoll is a cult leader, him, Furtick and that class that came up around the same time, they all claimed direct revelation from God and at least with Driscoll he was a self appointed pastor who got kicked out of his own cult. The man is a proven liar and manipulator.

[@s.garywerley3580]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

[@purplepigfarm5391]

⁠@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454What's this proof that Driscol is a liar and manipulator? Surely you must have factual sources to back up your claims.

[@AdrielPR22]

It’s funny how he calls mark out yet John McArthur teaches that the gifts of the spirit are not for by today! John u look best with your mouth closed! 🙏🏽

[@jcgoldsmith6515]

Oh geeze, I like both of these guys and I think both of them want to exalt my Lord Jesus Christ. 😂 Stonger together yall, Jesus is our focus.

[@person6768]

Mark gave his church books for "free". And then said they confiscated them. Luckily someone was recording so they could prove he was lying.

[@jcgoldsmith6515]

@person6768 what books?

[@theinformativelawyer4619]

Too many "theologians" and not enough Shepherds. Why doesn't John reach out to these other pastors and help them if he believes they are off track? Instead he is tearing down others and likely causing confusion among people who felt blessed and helped by some of the other teachers or pastors.

[@christianhartmann24]

J.M. Seems like such an unhappy man. Don’t think I’ve ever seen him smile

[@DanielMamora]

As Chuck Smith says, Calvinism is Christianity without Christ, which is what is shown in every clip of John MacArthur. How ironic that the name of his church is “Grace” Community Church

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

If Chuck Smith said that he is a false preacher. He also set a date for the rapture, and encouraged a woman to get an abortion on live radio - nobody should listen to chuck smith

[@jhavensmobile]

Well, if John claims Mark is a fraud, then that tells me Mark is legitimate.

[@alopez4564]

I love how this spiritual lukewarm pastor calls out everybody else for believing in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit specially when he himself hasn’t experienced them is like a person criticizing or talking bad about a city when he has never been there !!!!!

[@rebat7564]

He is a teacher and he has experienced the gifts of the Holy Spirit because otherwise how can he exposite the word of God in such a way? He said he does not believe in the manifestations that are prevalent in the churches now like jumping , rolling , languages with no interpretation , which clearly go against the fruit of the spirit, namely self control

[@punkydamonkey989]

MacArthur has a lot of room to talk about someone else when he thinks that homeless and mentally Ill people should be institutionalized

[@marleneg7794]

This man is a powerful man of God. His words are heavy and true

[@justinchamberlain3443]

Hes really only just a little better kenneth copeland and bc hes not as slimy as copleland is he seems "heavy and true", which is just because our society is so far in the trash can that you don't have anyone better to compare w/

[@mattng4707]

Don't give any man or woman this power .. that's what they want.

[@brubanville690]

I no longer want to be associated with any one church any more. I've grown so weary of the "pick your flavor" Christianity.

[@lisaklockow2482]

I lose respect for anyone that calls out a pastor with nothing to back it up! John MacArthur has sermons out there proclaiming that God only picks some people to be saved as if the others aren't good enough! I'd say that is a false teacher!!! Mark may have made mistakes because he is human but he repented. I've never heard him preach anything that wasn't biblical.

[@geothepoly]

Funny how he calls Driscoll out for calling himself reformed while he himself is a Baptist. (Nothing wrong with being a Baptist btw, I'm a Baptist myself, but being "Reformed" is more than just believing in TULIP)

[@FutureMemories1983]

What’s wrong with just calling yourself a follower of Christ

[@indianseibel123]

Because than the only teaching you can follow is the Bible and it really hard to get rich and have your ego stroked preaching Jesus Christ

[@FutureMemories1983]

@@indianseibel123 you know prosperity is all. thorughout the Bible right? Old and new testament

[@indianseibel123]

So is Hell Whats your point ?

[@raising5kiddos]

They didn’t throw him out. He ran off before facing discipline from his body of elders. Accountability is only a word after accountable in the dictionary to mark Driscoll, unfortunately. I hope that changes one day.

[@jbonaful]

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

[@rebat7564]

Jesus also discussed people called the pharisees white washed tombs Small mind ?

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

I guess Jesus and Paul were small minds because they called people out. Epic fail dude

[@leonardwitucke1]

Mark is awesome. I pray for Calvinists.

[@OkieAllDay]

Interesting that MacArthur doesn't see a problem with him being a dispensationalist and a Calvinist. But heaven forbid somebody is a charismatic and a Calvinist

[@wolverine114]

Difference between a Calvinist that is a charismatic (which there are plenty), and a Reformed Calvinist that is a charismatic. MacArthur for example is called “reformed” by a lot of people, but he’s definitely not. Dispensationalism being 1 reason..

[@KennyG920]

Driscoll is solid. MacArthur is a punk

[@coreylatham9236]

How is Driscoll a false teacher? He is imperfect to be sure. Maybe grossly immature; why fasle teacher though?

[@MrLegionofman]

Well Mark did say that God spoke to him to leave Mars Hill during the investigation because they were setting a 'trap' against them. Listen to 'Raise and Fall of Mars Hill'. Crazy stuff

[@Jericho-xs3ju]

Coreylatham Driscoll is a narcissistic fraud. He commited fraud using church funds to artificially boost the sale of his book. Pure deception. Then he was found in contempt of all of those church abuses. Just bailed on mars hill leaving his faithful employees holding the back of the church he destroyed. Then plays the victim and starts a new church like nothing happened. On top of that he got a parting year’s separation pay of over 600k. He’s a manipulator and a charlatan. He knows what to say to control peoples emotions particularly women. MacArthur is a multimillionaire who loves his doctrines and traditions of men more then what the Bible actually sais

[@paulremnantone1102]

God spoke to Mark and his wife at separate times. They both heard the same word. Leave!

[@nyeahgarner2420]

A quote from Driscoll, "our battle is not just against the flesh but against the powers and principalities of this world"

[@matthewpolishing7294]

I agree mark driscoll always call men out and says men are cowards but never calls women cowards for murdering children through a process called abortion

[@RobbieRad]

You haven’t listened enough then

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Wrong. He is adamantly against abortion. Yes....he calls women out for this.

[@jostone6808]

John MacArthur should've retired a long time ago.

[@GDEVADASEN]

Its so sad tha jm condemns everybody who has a different view from his.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

@@GDEVADASEN no, he doesn't. He just speaks the truth

[@jeremiahbennett2629]

Remember to remove the rod from thine own eye before chastising those for the speck in there’s, for every judgement and finger you cast upon another you have 4 more pointing back at you. We all fall short of righteousness but the lord is the only true righteous judge. So I recommend you hold your tongue and let God sort the wheat from the chaff, don’t fall prey to the same flaws of the Pharisees and sadducees.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Mac has no rod in his eye. Take your own advice pal

[@doughadaway9873]

I see the men Pastor Mark is reaching. I can’t say the same for pastor MacArthur. He seems to call out everyone. I sure hope his closet is clean. 🤔😳🤔

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Like your work, John...but you are wrong about this one. Mark Driscoll is not a charismatic.. I highly recommend listening to some of his recent work. He is on the mark. He follows the Bible. He is not apostate. Please focus God's word...not calling out a dedicated pastor. There are a plethora of false pastors ...there are many...Joyce Meyers...Benny Hinn....Kenneth Copeland...TD Jakes. Focus on them...not Mark. This criticism is undeserved. Thank you. God Bless 🙌 🙏 ❤️

[@GDJSHS777]

All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God! Peter denied Jesus 3 X. We Christians have got to get better and unite instead of dividing ourselves, least we fall into the Devil’s trap.

[@OkieAllDay]

I'm not a Calvinist or a Charismatic, but they definitely are NOT mutually exclusive terms. You CAN be both a Calvinist and a Charismatic

[@rauldelarosa2768]

I'm neither as well, why I haven't heard him critique Wayne grudem or Sam storms I wonder..

[@rauldelarosa2768]

That's a good question..I wish I knew the answer.. I'm neither continuationist or Calvinist myself..

[@roboparks]

Calvinism is not a single demmantion . It is a form of Church Governance. Meaning the Local Church is run by a Council of elected Elders , Not a centralized Institution or Not by a single Pastor - Calvin Institutes on church Governance. . But you would have to hold to the teachings on Calvin Charismatic is a form of worship not Governance So yes you can be both Mark Driscoll is no Longer a Calvinist Because he Runs his new Church as if he were a Dictator. And no Longer Teaches Saved by Grace Alone.

[@fredrolinners8903]

That's what heretics like to do - redefine words.

[@oldhickory4686]

And the gov't.. "Fetus". "Inflation reduction" Act, "Patriot" Act, Homeland "Security", etc..

[@loganross1861]

Weird because Driscoll makes the best case for Calvinism

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Driscoll now rejects Calvinism, by the way the devil's plan is to sow confusion so people don't seek the Lord. Don't fall for it.

[@coreylatham9236]

Focus on Jesus. The other stuff is debatable.

[@chris.b6902]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 Calvinism has caused more confusion in the body of Christ then it has ever in these last 20 years. Mark Driscoll is the same guy who says free will isn't real and its a demonic deception. Does he speak for majority of Calvinism? no, of course not. Ive met so many different Calvinist who don't all believe the same thing. Yet a lot of Calvinist are always in despair of whether if they are actually ever saved, every time they sin. The biggest thing satan wants to do to the body of Christ is to destroy the foundation of the Gospel which is we are all sinners in need of Savior. Jesus Christ is that Savior who came not to condemn the world but save it through him. Calvinism focuses more on the "elect" and in my opinion self-righteousness , then they do on the Love of Christ. Again, of course not ever Church will say these things to a T. but anyone whos been a Calvinist long enough, knows what i'm talking about. I praise the Lord he open my eyes to the deception of Calvinism and how on the surface it looks nice, but on the inside its ugly.

[@hesstribe]

Dump that Calvinism, garbage, and focus on Jesus dying for our sins. And let’s all do our job as soldiers for Christ.

[@GamerNxUSN]

Amen. Calvinism never got a guy off drugs. Calvinism never brought a single mom contemplating suicide back from the brink of dispair. ​@@hesstribe

[@sstewart03]

Seems like you are labeling John. Did God give you that gift or did that one too cease?

[@NorCalAggie]

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:11 KJV

[@marshalllucky7020]

What is Driscoll’s false doctrine?

[@AllureKing]

It really sucked realizing that none of this is true and all pastors are lying.

[@ellachristina7730]

amen, pastor John.

[@ronhanish]

SAVE YOURSELVES ACTS 2:37-40 . BECAUSE THESE PREACHERS WILL NEVER TELL YOU. THE BIBLE DOES .

[@TexasHoosier3118]

Johnny believes that dreams and visions of Muslims are not from God. Bubba needs to get out of the pulpit. He is teaching a third covenant. The second covenant according to the book of Acts came with many signs and wonders. Cessationism is a false gospel. There are those who hold to a form of Godliness but deny its power.

[@ladybug7967]

What is exactly ‘false’ in Mark Driscoll’s teaching? I am not a fan of clips with just name calling…

[@Christfollower89]

This is what I want to know

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Mark is doing righteous work. You have some work to do, John. You are completely wrong about Mark. Casting stones at others doing their best work is wrong. You are off the path on this one. May you find truth.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Nobody "casts more stones" than Marky Mark

[@rachelfree1083]

This doesn't make sense.

[@paulmaguire3155]

Well this didn’t age well 🤣 I can honestly say and I’m not a mark Driscoll fan John McArther is a frud and wrong in so many areas

[@KennyG920]

MacArthur likened folks that want to keep the Sabbath to the Pharisees of Jesus day.

[@dpd8774]

Dear Calvinists: does anyone ever get to heaven?

[@SallyScrimgeour-zl8tg]

Pastor, Shouldn’t you have taken that up with Mark, rather than speaking that publicly? Pastor Mark is confident and speaks truth shamelessly and unapologetic. I don’t think he cares what you or anyone else thinks, but he cares what God thinks and at the end of the day that is what is most important for us all.

[@whynot1548]

Pot calling the Kettle black

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Don't be so hard on yourself

[@1ChasingRays]

YOUR LABEL IS DECEPTIVE: Baxter referred to George Wither's poems as prophetic, literally: not just FORTHtelling but FOREtelling.

[@jtimmontgomery7023]

It’s time for John to sit down. He has moved from expository preaching to attacking others. It’s sad.

[@zombiewarrior88]

Then you will hate the Bible for calling out false teachers as well.

[@rebat7564]

Last sunday sermon was expository . Did you watch that?

[@tonyeslick5544]

You can’t trust a preacher that is a cessationist

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Actually you can't trust a preacher who thinks his own thoughts are the voice of God. smh

[@NDCCMTX]

​@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 **Jeremiah enters the chat**

[@rebat7564]

says you but i say you can’t trust a preacher that advocates strange words and erratic behavior and says it is if the Holy Spirit One of the fruit of the spirit is self control

[@urzmontst.george6314]

John Macarthur has mad a fortune preaching against the prosperity gospel.....

[@thegatheringqc8982]

Yeah, kinda like yourself there Johnny! You place Calvanism on the throne of God, usurping God Himself. Good luck with that

[@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor]

Straining at a knat and swallowing a camel huh What about him calling out sin oh thats not sin according to justin 1:48 Peter'is it ? There are a lot of events with shirtless guys Boxing! But I have never Considered a stripper pole,and upside crosses sports Hedonism is a better term. My advice to the discernment crowd is walk away from this,you are giving a pass to the stripper act and worrying about Driscoll so what if he left reformed theology? Is it worth the compromise to attack him?

[@damongeiger1630]

what he is saying is just gossip. nothing else. no glory to God only bringing about division amongst groups and people....

[@ButchJones-do4ns]

So this same guy is against prosperity while charging a big price for a conference???? Got some balls for calling others out while ignoring your own beam.

[@davidhinze5739]

So he calls out mark infront others because he said mark did that? 'Mark said it was an observation and not calling anyone out. Why was this act allowed? Thats what happens when pastors worship money as an idol John

[@chuckthebuck6108]

Might be a sign jesus is coming Time to clean up

[@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor]

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

[@cjnav7832]

@janetdead So you're saying that in the teaching of God's word, in All His Word, That men who were false teachers or obstructing God's justice, were NOT called out by name?? (by Moses, by Paul, by Luke, etc) Never? This will take me some effort but do you want some biblical examples? Also, what does Ephesians 5:11 say? And what does the word "expose", mean to you anyway? And why are you watching this and not reading the Bible in the first place? Sounds hypocritical

[@buck_maize111]

And then john macarthur prints a bible with his name of the front cover. If any other preacher did that.. john would call them out. Only john macarthur has the truth and everyone else is false.. It's stupid.

[@gusangulo3992]

This is kind of silly because MacArthur isn’t reformed, he doesn’t hold to any of the Reformed confessions and is a Premill Dispensationalist. But I know you are too DW, and you’re both still brothers!…. Just wrong brothers 😂😅

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Those Reformed confessions didn't come until 1500 years plus after Jesus died so it can't be an essential issue.

[@AllSven]

Driscoll is witnessing his own deconstruction and there is nothing he can do about it. Don’t ever underestimate the judgment of God. He gives people over every day. Forever.

[@rauldelarosa2768]

Actually he's thriving as a minister.. much to the Dismay of many Calvinist people..

[@coreylatham9236]

I was going so say it seems like hes getting way more views and exposure now. Idk, to me it seems the Spirit is carrying his work.

[@brianwhitacre4558]

Mark will one day be accountable for the things he's done in his church, God sees all and just as Paul said whether Christ is peached from pure or impure motives he rejoiced that the name of Christ is peached. Leave all judgement up to God in the end but we are to judge within the church as Paul did in Corinthians and Mark ran off from his church before he was disciplined. Good can still use him, doesn't mean he won't have to pay the piper when it comes to rewards as we all will one day🤷

[@markp-yt6bv]

What about taking the beam out of your eye first?

[@grahamrogers3345]

Anyone who teaches eternal tormyis teaching a wicked and evil lie whether willingly or not.

[@user-ud2pu8ij6b]

Is Driscoll doing something now? I have not heard anything about him since he crashed and burned like a old school vh1 behind the music episode

[@rauldelarosa2768]

He's ministering..I think that the Calvinist folks are in their feelings and it shows because he's not a Calvinist anymore..

[@coreylatham9236]

Hes at trinity in AZ. Hes on youtube. I honestly really like his sermons.

[@dianefitzgerald]

He has a church in Phoenix

[@brianwhitacre4558]

Yeah he ran away from his church discipline and started a church in AZ.

[@LarryXLR]

John MacArthur fell off.

[@DNYS8N]

I just can’t see any thing that compels me as a believer to even consider Calvinism.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

Acts 13:48, John 6:44, Ephesians 1:4-12

[@DNYS8N]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 Is that what they mean by throwing out Bible verses even at believers,? Ok. My military mentor was Col David Hackworth. He said of the trouble in the Middle East, let’s build a wall, give them weapons, and let them destroy each other instead of us, I’m not saying that at all but I do think all these million dollar preachers focused on dogma especially those with big names and big egos, could just get into the octagon and hash it out. I’m seeing now why obscurity is a gift. Peace

[@so2829]

You should also consider Romans 9:15-26. Add to that the book of Job, particularly God’s reply to Job when he questions God.

[@stephenmelton2532]

By his own rationale John should repent, stop protesting and join the Catholic Church.

[@tdanielskiss]

I like John McCarther, but he is such a Pharisee sometimes.

[@00hunterlover]

What an apostate! Praying for Driscoll

[@johnsainz3056]

Lol...Calvinism is a very false teaching

[@ExaminingAdventism]

Preach it, Pastor John!!

[@jamieclark4681]

I've heard your sermon on charismatic churches and Mark Driscoll is not a charismatic teaching Pastor I beg your pardon sir. He calls out weak men he calls out lazy men and calls out abusers of women. Now I understand you're saying these things to boost your own numbers but to lie about another Christian teacher who is a biblical believing teacher who sticks to the biblical gospels is absolutely appalling. You sir also have videos out there circulating about your own abuses in your own church where women have been victims and you have ignored their calls for help. Do your fact checking before you start smearing other people Sir John MacArthur! I pray for all that they will come to the truths and boost each other up instead of trying to drag each other down for their own purposes!

In the strict sense MacArthur isn't reformed either, so he sure is one to talk.

[@boldchick101]

John McArthur must be the most perfect man who ever lived, he has never sinned, never made a mistake and is the judge of every other human alive. Thanks, but no thanks John, your ego is way too big for me to fit in with, you are way too perfect in your own eyes for me to want to learn from you. I am human, a saved sinner, you are just too judgmental for me to want to be around you since you will judge me, gossip about me like you do many others publicly, instead of support and guide on the right path. I am unsubscribing from your channel and moving to honest teachers with humility, love and accurate Bible teaching who support instead of judge. Mark Driscoll teaches to follow Jesus, not to sin, not to support sin and not to judge others but to look into ourselves and lovingly guide others on the right path. I think I like that better than your high horse approach.

[@jayman1338]

Reformed? John you’re not reformed, you’re just a Calvinist. Nothing wrong with not being fully reformed but you don’t hold to the three C’s of reformed theology. Covenant theology Calvinism Confessionalism You are definitely do not hold to covalent theology but you still are my favorite teacher…🤷‍♂️💪☀️

[@roboparks]

But is Johns Church Governed as Calvin? You Can't call yourself a Calvinist unless your Church is Governed as Calvin which is a Body of Elected Elders. You can Preach the Tulip all Day. But if you run your Church as a Single Pastor having all Governance Authority then you not Calvinist. And the Term Reformed is a Historical Term and Often misused by Charlatans that are so called "Reformed" To Brand and use it as advertisement .

[@thetruthchannel349]

Isnt it interesting John MacArthur never says a word about Rob Bell? )

[@rauldelarosa2768]

I'm no Johnny Mac fan... But everyone knows that Rob bell is heretical.

[@superazmed3246]

Imputationists 😂🤣

[@melissaschubert1653]

Curious - a compromising fraud easily identifying the characteristics of a compromising fraud! Takes one to know one - and one who won’t answer - avoiding accountability to the public - scary false teacher

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

How so?

[@urbanvoice5323]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 exactly lol, arent pastors called to expose false teachers and warn the flock.

[@rauldelarosa2768]

​@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454when he taught you can take the mark of the beast and be saved and never corrected himself.. That's grave error.. Calvinistic people are guilty of placing men like Johnny Mac on a pedestal and they are quick to call anyone who renounced Calvinistic emphasis a heretic.. Why is that?

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

@@rauldelarosa2768 both statements are false, Calvinists do not call non Calvinists heretics for not being Calvinists and Pastor John never taught that, it was an off the cuff statement during a Q&A, if you heard the explanation why he said that it would make sense but people just spread rumors like this taking him out of context.

[@rauldelarosa2768]

@@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454 he hasn't explained it nor he has he accepted to debate Jacob Prasch about it..(the mark of the teaching he's taught) Why is that.. 2. John MacArthur didn'tn say it and i didn'tsay that. However, RC Sproul did in fact call arminians barely saved by a happy inconsistency..how's this not divisive and not a hindrance to true discussion?

[@HoustonYu]

Shame on you John MacArthur

[@romandaigle455]

Including you Johnny Mac! A huge false teacher! Mr “ you can get the MOB and still be forgiven “

[@David_Watts]

😂😂😂

[@lee-annebarrett366]

I have heard Mark Discoll. He has a foul crude mouth.

[@dutchboyslim5951]

When a conniving, calculating disingenuous fraud accuses of others of such They eat their own, I guess

[@selahrichardson]

May God have mercy on MacArthurs soul.🙏

[@731Chhairts]

This is a false teacher