John Mayer

John Mayer is an American songwriter, guitarist, and musician. He has won several Grammy awards, including Song Of The Year for “Daughters.”
In addition to his successful solo career, Mayer is also a member of the band Dead & Company, which features former Grateful Dead members. He joined the band in 2015 and has since toured extensively with them until this summer when the band announced and just wrapped their final tour. Mayer's contribution to Dead & Company has been praised by fans and critics alike, as has his dedication to the guitar in a time when its cultural resonance has been challenged.
John also remains dedicated to his own songs, past and present, having recently finished an acclaimed solo tour.
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[@KarlRock]

I met John once in his dressing room when I was working for Sony. He’s one of the few genuine artists who’d ask you questions and get to know you a little. Listening to this interview, he’s a clearly a great story teller and very chatty/friendly. It was an incredible performance that night in Auckland, New Zealand. Thanks John 🙏

[@matguerra333]

and what did you do to him?

[@mariaalvarez256]

I love to one day meet John in person!

[@slow.starts]

Mayer interviews at length are pretty rare these days. This is incredibly valuable.

[@danielandrewgrant]

Does give tips for picking up famous girlfriends?

[@SatyamNeelkamal]

​@@danielandrewgrantthe trick is being John Mayer

[@jeremy.thejeweler]

@@SatyamNeelkamalnailed it. No pun intended.

[@drbaker3845]

OMG he wouldn't even say the interview is of much value lol

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Fucking big time.

[@owendaviesotd5909]

For any songwriter or aspiring musician this is absolute gold dust.

[@g.o.9513]

Explain what's of vaue.

[@atreesto5002]

​@g.o.9513 listen to the podcast.

[@maxtylersmusic]

some if the best insights into songwriting I've ever heard. John has a gift of putting things into words that exist only in other people sub conscious. @@g.o.9513

[@jamespiper5317]

absolutely. well articulated.

[@rcdmrl]

John is amazingly good with words. I really like how he always finds a metaphor and a way to convey complex or abstract ideas in a great way. That’s also a gift.

[@LozBlain]

The man talks in lyrics and poetry.

[@roderickbalt8993]

He also stands himself in the way with that if you ask me

[@rcdmrl]

@@roderickbalt8993 Possibly because he ends up revealing that overthinking, sometimes messy, brain of his? Or are you still referring to those outrageous young-Mayer interviews? :)

[@roderickbalt8993]

@@rcdmrl Well no not specifically I mean he sometimes seems to float away in his world of concepts and ideas in thinking and away from feeling.

[@LONEWOLF..314-S-T-L]

👍🏾💯

[@j.d.culbertson4265]

John, thanks for loving and playing Grateful Dead music. These last 8 years were a wonderful ride, one I didn't expect to get.

[@Arden7one]

This conversation has been incredibly healing for me. Just wanted you to know that. So much love ❤

[@wrenbisson4760]

"The greatest therapy in the world is to play music, and say as you hear yourself play...I am not a piece of sh*t" -John Mayer I appreciate this interview so much!!

[@willsevy7836]

100%

[@nickg7738]

I'm a young Dead fan. When dead&co formed it was finally my time to see the original boys play live together. My first concert ever was Wrigley 2017, at that time I was there to see Bob, Bill and Mickey. I went to every Wrigley show throughout the years, and by 2023 I was instead excited most for John and Jeff. John Mayer was always a big name floating around, but I never gave a true look into him. After those 6 magical years of my favorite concerts ever, I love the guy. I'll have to catch one of his solo shows.

[@VixCrush]

Very cool. I'm a Grateful Dead fan. It is funny when I started seeing Dead show I thought I had missed the boat pretty much and my first show was in 1989. It is this wonderful part of my life though that most people don't get.

[@nickg7738]

@@VixCrush perhaps I'm biased because I've only seen the new iterations (d&co, JRAD, DSO), but I truly believe it's more about the music than the people playing it. Of course I'm upset I'll never see Pigpen, Jerry, Brent etc, but the music is alive and well in my time.

[@papa_pt]

​@@nickg7738JRAD is so sick

[@S543-]

@@papa_ptabsolutely! I still loved all the Dead and Company shows and am a huge Grateful Dead fan. ⚡️

[@dayphaser]

Just gotta say I love the way Rick says "great". I need more people in my life that after I have an idea they say great the exact same way Rick says it lol.

[@solsticesummer982]

I’m sure, like the rest of us, they think.. what could I ever give John Mayer??!! Why would he want this??!! But, he’s exactly like the rest of us, there’s things that spark joy.. to steal a phrase. I have things from my grandmother no one else would care about. But I do.

[@miguel035]

Listening to John Mayer speaking is like a song itself.

[@annmarie3573]

well put!

[@eferro7903]

facts yo

[@kimberlykairo]

John Mayer is the best interviewee ever. I love all of his interviews and him

[@chutcentral]

Can I get your number hun

[@trogman43988]

John Mayer is so articulate and insightful. His long form interviews are the best

[@chutcentral]

You copied my comment 🙄

[@misterknightowlandco]

As a guitarist, John interviews are so helpful. I can get lessons on where to put your fingers anywhere, but why you put your fingers there is the REAL lesson and that’s what his interviews teach us. It’s all about the outlook.

[@LONEWOLF..314-S-T-L]

🎁👍🏾💯

[@PacificPlinker]

As a guitar player, John’s description of this secret armor that is playing guitar for yourself, is so true. Playing guitar in search of “the thing” is the best therapy there is.

[@JJJohnsom]

You should only play for you not as a gimmick or a way to get accolades. At the core it should be just for you if you want to add in others that’s anyone’s choice or option.

[@SEPHICHI420]

​@@JJJohnsomsome people are made of gimmicks and accolades. Alot of those people are musicians 😂

[@camshash]

"Trace back why you like the thing, and learn the thing that made the thing you like, and you'll be five times better every time you do that." John has explained this in other interviews including this one and it is so spot on. You can apply it to every instrument, heck even outside of music it probably has many applications.

[@fearfulbrave]

Never knew his dad was 50 when he was born. Makes alot of sense given his way with words and ability to articulate literally anything in such a unique and witty way with such colorful language. Almost as if he's from a bygone time.

[@andreasfalley]

What a treat this was for me as a guitarist. Rick Rubin is such a great listener and thus asks great questions, and John is so articulate and transparent about his process in a way few musicians are once they get famous. What an amazing combination! I had to stop the podcast many times because I was so inspired to play my guitar and contemplate each of the many wonderful insights he provides.

[@tattoofthesun]

I hear you. John is so conscious too. Self-conscious - he’s always reflected on what he’s doing. So he’s thought about this stuff and himself a whole lot.

[@JAMN2GD]

Very articulate. Love it. Simple man to understand. Very hard to find in the music business. Dude has his head on his shoulders. Love it. First smart move was to get the heck out of Hell A. Montana. That tells you he is a smart man right there. I am sure he may have 20 houses but I like to picture a peaceful place in Montana. I mean how cool would that be in an insane industry if you let it get to you. I would want to be as far away from the center of it as possible. Thanks for all you have done for us Heads John. THANK YOU. WE ARE EVERYWHERE. See you down the road..........

[@moose5206]

Rick Rubin producing a Mayer record would be sensational.

[@MikeKingJSM]

I needed this podcast more than I knew. A podcast from someone who understands the muse, can understand the metaphorical language that John always speaks in. Being a fan of Mayer as long as I have, playing along to Continuum to learn how to play guitar. Replacing Mayer and using his rhythm section as my rhythm section. To get this podcast and share it with friends has been special. I like this version of John. We have grown up together. Call Her Daddy pod was cool, but this was the one made for me (us).

[@fenderstrat2017]

Man…this is so relatable :)

[@drmedwuast]

Amazing that John is still getting better and better at interviewing himself

[@coonjamalay]

wdym

[@S3VENROY]

@@coonjamalayhe is probably referring to metaphors

[@grady_co]

was just about to comment this

[@aidenharker5139]

Dumbest comment I’ve seen lol

[@aathmpsn]

He's introspective. Questions himself.... people who don't question themselves worry me, they live a life of ego.

[@XXAbbott]

Althea at Nassau 1980 changed my whole perspective on The Dead, simply, amazing

[@mariaalvarez256]

I loved the part when he talks about anxiety and it’s OK to bring along the little scare 33:47 with him to the show. So beautiful!

[@dianebig7857]

Great advice, right?

[@entheogenetic]

This conversation should always be Legendary, and pointed to and referenced as one of the best conversations ever. Thank you both!

[@chutcentral]

Wow, this is great! So relaxing to listen to, and just totally absorbing. Mayer is the perfect guest for this, articulate, insightful, and just has that kind of spellbinding voice. I'm coming off Dead and Company's final show just a couple of days ago, and this is exactly what I needed. Therapeutic.

[@PoohTheDude]

Same here. Great shows at Oracle. Still riding that high. John Mayer was a great fit for the Dead family NFA🌹💀⚡️

[@2n4alteredminds]

John's " thank you" to the dead family and dead heads is an amazingly insightful and beautiful said. Thanks John. Again Rick your inspirational path shines a light in this fogged world. Thank you

[@sergiocamacho8221]

Time stamp? 🙏🏻

[@2n4alteredminds]

@@sergiocamacho8221 sorry the thank you , isn't in this interview. I read it, then reposted it on @2n4alteredminds .

[@timmcdonald2177]

Love how these two light each other up and came late to the Dead. Some people are calling Mayer narcissistic, I totally disagree. He says he overthinks and is completely honest to a fault. Good for you John. And thanks for taking on the Jerry role.

[@ImmaFlamingo]

As an over thinker. I get this. I overthink which leads to over explaining to over talking. And then I look like a douche.

[@S543-]

@@ImmaFlamingoI’m the same. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jimmirow]

I qualify. This topic is so relatable to me.

[@baldbearded9601]

This is one of my new favourite musical interviews online. Rick has his own views and enough experience to be able to receive the ideas and expand on them without having to agree or disagree with the artist, and who better than John to pull nuggets out of nowhere to develop on. This was amazing.. thank you! 🙏

[@antonyhurley8809]

Complete gold. From overcoming the anxieties of performance, to Rubin coaxing words and then songs out of Mayer in situ, to the philosophy of taking things seriously in your practice so you can finally let go and create from a place of freedom, just a remarkable conversation. I’ll be coming back to it for a while!

[@mdougf]

Yessss!!! Nothing better than Mayer interviews!!

[@LONEWOLF..314-S-T-L]

💯👍🏾

[@guitarfulness]

As a musician/guitarist/songwriter/producer this is one of the most important conversations I've ever heard. Nugget after nugget of truth bombs about making music. Wow!

[@andymorris15]

The fact that this conversation is free on KZbin is just mind blowing. It was nice to see Mayer be more of a student for once too - Rubin’s energy is that of a creative Yoda.

[@chickendrop]

Listening to these two dudes having such a candid discussion about music, and the feelings in and around music, is the most refreshing thing ever. Incredible.

[@dianebig7857]

Ditto. :)

[@atrinae]

Instant favorite ... "Stop this train" has always been about my kids growing up and wishing it would slow down... Almost cry everytime it plays. ❤

[@ImmaFlamingo]

I get you. When it was first released I was 29 as well. I just felt like it understood me so well. I’d hyperventilate listening to it, but at the same time it brought me comfort knowing someone else (John Mayer) was feeling the same way I felt. But now… at 45, I look at my kids and even though I am so proud of them. They are such good kids… I wish I could just slow things down. They are already almost 11 and almost 9…. I wish I could just slow it down a little. I wish I could just go back to when they still needed me for a little bit.

[@S543-]

I cried when he played this a few months ago at his solo show.❤️

[@sterkurmeningsson5305]

"the greatest therapy in the world is to play music and say, as you hear yourself play, I am not a piece of shit". That was beautiful ❤️

[@pedroaguirre258]

I love how John understand and explains songs, composition and music in general. These conversations are a treasure.

[@queenofthenight3518]

More than 2 hours of Podcast with Mayer is a true feast

[@ryangunwitch-black]

This podcast is like gold. And, speaking as a guitarist, singer, songwriter, this episode is particularly valuable. Thank you for this. ❤

[@thesunman108]

This crossover is so freaking good. Rick is no BS. Man, I'd love to hear an album produced with RR.

[@ACMendez]

He's produced an insane amount of albums from a wide range of genre's. I'm not even kidding when I say he very may well have helped produce one of your favorite albums.

[@thesunman108]

@@ACMendez Yes! I meant with JM!

[@subhanbasit2695]

The sheer vocabulary John has at his disposal is mind-boggling! There’s not just one thing he does well. Everything he’s done in life, he’s done wholeheartedly which is why he’s not just a complete musician, he’s a complete human being.

[@tracymccormick7792]

I find myself searching for Mayer interviews to help me restore mental positivity,listening for motivational phrases.He said earlier that playin guitar can make you tell yourself”im not a piece of shit” so far that has stuck because he is completely right.Ive played since i was 12,chased the dream twice, 10 years,twice so 20,got close both times but life.To stay on subject in having a mental struggle at the moment and my guitar in my hands and talking to my son and listening for Johns wisdom are the only things that i do,constantly,all day today especially,didnt go to work,didnt even call in…my point is that there are so many aspects about music that connect to your soul(if you get what im saying) that can literraly save you if even momentarily, from falling off the edge(im not suicidal) my edge at the moment is my tear ducts are leaking because im not gonna allow my self to break that dam.So,thanks Rick and thank you John for the extra long interview,headed to the back porch with my Dads Strat,yall be cool.

[@sachasoude]

The best thing about John is his integrality in a total being, as a musician, human and someone with continuous creativity, something that makes me enjoy his evolution and he earns my true admiration.

[@elftower907]

So psyched for new John music.

[@kellystorm6760]

Thank you so much for this brilliant conversation it is a beautiful gift of unfolding the creative process and finding the treasures wrapped inside the lovely layers of emotions there and discovering life force energy in the form of flower buds patiently waiting ,ready to be watered with the delight of exploration and with the confidence of certainty that they will bloom and that is all the trusting required for the magic to happen and just allowing it to be the unfolding of the gift there in . ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊 thank you again for this vibrant imaging that came through me as a feeling and I did my best to find the words to convey the satisfied sensation within me . Lots of love .🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@timhaynmusic]

Will Rick Rubin PLEASE produce a John Mayer album?! This interaction is nothing short of amazing

[@Nickpetronio]

They were doing it after the 1.5 hour mark right?! So cool.

[@matthewabiy9808]

As a 22 year old guitarist this hit different 🔥🙏🏾I’ve been playing blues bending on a classical guitar for the last 2 years and used to be angry for not going out and buying an electric but I realised if I can bend with precision on a classical and play blues solos. When I get an electric I’ll be even better. So I accepted that I’m not ready for the electric and am still on the grind on the classical guitar! Making the classical guitar bend flawlessly and sound like a voice is my goal for the next year🙏🏾✌🏾

[@xa9590]

I love listening to Mayer talk like this, he’s so smart, thoughtful , introspective…etc, I learned a lot. Rick a great interviewer too…

[@user-gl2uy8jg2j]

John really needs to do a Master Class in songwriting.

[@s4mcote]

I relate so much to the part where he says he bought back his parents ‘piano. I’m keeping the electric guitar my dad bought me when I was 15. Haven’t played it in 10 years, but when my dad will be gone, the guitar will remind me of the time we went at the guitar store for my 15th birthday. 🥹

[@ImmaFlamingo]

💜

[@davidwebster6252]

Not finished the video yet. Really enjoying it. Love the part about growing up and going home to play from school. He was like building a solid blues foundation at a young age. Could listen to those and Berklee / post berklee stories all day.

[@LONEWOLF..314-S-T-L]

SALUTE 👍🏾💯

[@seanmccanna]

i feel like this interview is adjacent to all manifestations of love, the ways they talk about creating

[@lucasmarchetti7378]

a 2 hour length dialogue between these two incredible minds is something so unique, amazing interview, Rick ask always such good questions and Mayer is beautiful with words and the way he finds to describe answers, thank you for this

[@celestehull8914]

John has a Beautiful sexy voice,I loved this interview,john is a very Beautiful old soul,And a fantastic musician he is so blessed,I love him with Dead and Company John God Bless you on your next tour❤

[@Nickpetronio]

After the one and a half hour mark, we get John Mayer and Rick Rubin writing and producing songs! This is great! Lol so much good stuff in here. I love it

[@Echho1]

excellent interview. I love how John thinks in analogies. and great to hear him discuss personal stuff like giving up drinking. great stuff! 👍🎸

[@LONEWOLF..314-S-T-L]

👍🏾💯

[@bridgetashmore7063]

Thanks for this interview and for John’s recognition of his own growth into this age-musically and personally.

[@billc2147]

“You need music, I don’t know why. It’s probably one of those Joe Campbell questions, why we need ritual. We need magic, and bliss, and power, myth, and celebration and religion in our lives, and music is a good way to encapsulate a lot of it.” - Jerry Garcia

[@lisashoesmith8723]

Holy shit! Two hours of long-form conversation with these two at the helm! This is such a treasure!

[@omw2flvrtwn]

y'all were ruthless with the ads

[@tannermartinmusic]

Just finished it took me about a week. So great. Two bright minded people and great conversation.

[@handsolo1546]

"Gambling with self esteem" is bloody brilliant

[@mikasihite5346]

This podcast taught me so much about my creative life. I'm not even a musician and I learned so much about what it means to really believe in what you're doing. How many more day and nights of feeling reliefed you didn't do a good job instead of just keeping the focus and just doing it ? Then they even mentioned about how these days we take everything personal when it comes to what is expected by people and also how we go from one spark to another instead of working on one when you have that spark. God John is truly a humble human being and so is Rick Rubin.

[@theresevanwyk2000]

Incredible interview! Thank you and bless you Rick and John ❤ I've listened this one seven or eight times right through, and will probably come back to it again. First time in my life that I listen to the same interview more than once. This is a masterclass!!! ❤❤❤

[@RobertNolan]

I like how he works an idea or thought process out of his head. You can appreciate any interviewee who gives substance to an answer.

[@fiercekrypton]

58:25 back at a bourbon festival in Kentucky I heard Jon and thought to myself, “I think all anyone here wants to hear is Jon take risks”. Glad he’s rolling with it on stage now.

[@ilkenjohns]

If the result of these two just talking about music and the creative process is this enthralling just imagine what the two of them collaborating on music in a studio would produce… 🙌

[@noahguttell1953]

This is one of the best conversations I've ever heard. It really conveys the excitement of the moment of creativity. It is so hard to do, but the real moment of creation is there. Amazing and so rare to be captured. Both parties are open enough to make it happen. This is special.

[@coryburns13]

What an amazingly insightful conversation! You both bring so much to this, I listened at work but I wanna listen again and almost like…take notes, because there is so much here that I caught in the moment that really struck me…thank you!!!

[@mikem668]

John Mayer is a philosopher of many, many things. The interactions, similarities and differences, in this interview offer wisdom and variations on ways to live a life, but also ways towards sanity and being at peace. It's hard to imagine I could have understood them at 18. I wish I'd understood them sooner. But I'm grateful to have partially absorbed them at 70. When he says he's a better guitar player now, but he makes more mistakes... that's my cure for perfectionism. It's path for learning anything. And for understanding that limitations are what makes us who we are, and that comparisons are ultimately fruitless in the many things that give life meaning. As someone who returned to music after many years, I finally realized that l would never be able to learn a song perfectly, but that my mistakes gave those songs my own fingerprint and clues for further explorations. John Mayer and his experience with the Dead alerted me to the possibility, but when it actually happened it was an epiphany. Thanks for this interview.

[@chutcentral]

TLDR

[@BlueFinch]

that opening themes music is really something else. Like, it's intriguing, light, joyful, ethereal, sure, strong, and compelling. Rick Rubin. the theme music is Rick Rubin.

[@carterwatson1949]

this is honestly one of my favorite john mayer interviews he continues too inspire me hes awesome! also I like that the title is just simply named John Mayer

[@jeremy.thejeweler]

I never would have thought about it, but what an incredible pairing. I think Rick seems to ruminate very similarly to John, and that combined with their rather esoteric shared experience with the music industry and production made for a really really great two hour conversation. I selfishly wish it were longer. They should definitely just start a podcast.

[@juanluchini5156]

My favorite thing is to be completely immersed in an in-depth dialogue with Rick Rubin and John Mayer about the subtleties of music writing and performing and suddenly and abrasively get pulled out of my train of thought by a fucking random ad about a pigfarm…. Anyone else miss the old, no-ad KZbin days?

[@user-grpa1]

LOL TOTALLY AGREE!!!!

[@henriettahope2209]

My Sociology teacher at College, the start of every lesson, felt he had to say something about the Grateful Dead because we HAD TO know about them ..that's what I remember from his classes.

[@rdmkeytohwy]

John’s art comes from everything I have enjoyed over the years from all of the blues guys to rock n’ roll and pop music. He blends it all together and has created something very special. His solo tour this spring was amazing, an evening of just John on piano or an acoustic guitar. There was one solo on electric guitar which was phenomenal. It was pure magic. Thank you Rick for your contributions to music and for some great interviews over the years including this gem. Just what I needed to hear!!!

[@rickm2061]

Great interview and moral of the story: be true to yourself and the art…the byproduct? Sure, fame and money…more so that you are lucky enough to affect millions and make this world a little something better than what it is.

[@scp025]

John's brain is a beautiful thing. If he ever wrote an autobiography (or any kind of book), I'd buy 10 copies.

[@nbassasin8092]

Why I get the appreciation, Im the same But the analogy isnt the best, 1 or 10 or 100 same books are still essentially only 1 book

[@scp025]

@@nbassasin8092 to give them away. To support him. It's not that deep man.

[@joseblanco2691]

Big fan of both of you! Thanks for this

[@eferro7903]

This made my day. Love both of these guys. More John interviews please!

[@timg2036]

Amazing interview. For those curious, at 1:49:30, the chord progression is F-Bb-C-F-C-Bb-F-Bb-C, followed by Dm-C-F-Bb.

[@drewprossermusic7053]

Thanks for this.

[@queenmellie72]

Those 2004 and early records/shows are TOTAL memories. Fan since 2002 your music clicked in step with my life (kids growing up, life happening). Beautiful memories for me 🙏🏼

[@tedboughter-dornfeld5281]

Beautiful. Thank you both - you created something unforgettable here (as you both have with your music and production).

[@annemarieeunice6083]

I love Peggy-0 its so hauntingly romantic . In the '80s and '90s I cried whenever I heard it. I was lucky to have just seen Fri. And Sun. In SF. Sounded better than EVER .... Soooo. Divine in nature, Goddess/God made manifest! Don't ever stop playing please~ you are the best !! I hope I can sing with you some fine day ! All of the Dead are the most beautiful thing on the planet ! Thank you so much !❤❤❤❤

[@JordanRowland]

This is just...ridiculously good and inspiring/helpful/healing. Thank you John and Rick.

[@sophiapde9369]

So glad John Mayer did this with Rick Rubin..grateful actually that he did.

[@acaceres5788]

Always great to glean from John's experiences and insight, thanks to both of you gents!

[@thedonrizzguitar]

One of the best interviews i’ve ever heard 🥇

[@natecorning]

Incredible. One of the best interviews i've heard.

[@brooklynboy1000]

John was in the right place at the right time. Napster. And girls gravitating to him for the social clique thing. Then his first two radio hits. Boom

[@debbiegreen7051]

John I could listen all day to your voice and this was a great interview🎸❤️😎

[@nickcejka242]

This was an absolutely incredible conversation.

[@washboy154]

Real gem of an interview. Thanks for this! Brightened my work day

[@simply6foot2]

I love this interview. Finally getting to see Mayer live this year and this got me excited.

[@kinsoundstudios]

That was incredible. Thank you

[@LaynoProd]

so many gems in this as a music artist and music producer working on their 4th album and discovering my sound evolving and becoming more authentically me after every release, thank you Rick Rubin and John Mayer 🙏🏽 with gratitude, LaynoProd

[@BillyGoat-kj7gz]

These two, with their inquisitive mindset, cerebral nature, and loads of experience are fascinating to listen to. Beautiful. Thanks to both for sharing who you are personally and creatively.

[@rebeccamackinnon97]

That was lovely hearing about your passion for music, John.

[@overtonesnteatime198]

I could not have asked for a better person to interview this person on this day. What a treat.

[@theREDC0de]

This episode is pure joy.

[@ipreferlonelinessincorporated]

Magical, wonderful interview. thank you