John Mearsheimer: What’s Behind Biden’s Blank Check Support for Israel? | Endgame

This is the second interview we did with Professor John Mearsheimer on wars and great power politics. Watch the first one here: • John Mearsheimer: Is C...
In this second interview with American political scientist and international relations scholar John Mearsheimer, we discussed the current status of the war in Ukraine and prospects for resolution, moral issues around Israeli military campaigns in Gaza, deterrence and risks of conflict in the South China Sea, and whether ideology is declining in importance when it comes to international relations.
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Chapters
0:00:00 - Intro
0:01:53 - Why Ukraine is in Big Trouble
0:05:16 - Guns, Troops and Air Power
0:18:28 - Winning the Peace in Ukraine
0:23:37 - ‘The Blob’
0:29:03 - Israel Lobby
0:35:52 - What Will Iran Do?
0:37:46 - Cleansing the Palestinians
0:42:28 - Containing China
0:50:02 - Conflict in South China Sea
1:02:47 - Is Ideology Dead?
1:08:42 - Tools of Great Powers
1:13:22 - Future of Nuclear Non Proliferation
1:18:28 - Hubris-Humility Index

[@gwirjawan]

When the definition of morality is ambiguous, and when violence is easily justified, what logic will you use to guide your course of action?

[@gha9543]

The lunar eclipse 😅

[@RandyMorris-wq7tr]

The reckless and unrighteous actions of your unrighteous goals.

[@numbersix8919]

United States foreign policy since 1897!

[@AuditorInvestor]

Read the Bible. Judge a tree by its fruits.

[@roboldx9171]

@@AuditorInvestor Despite the US claims of freedom founded on liberty. Those roots of the tree were in fact founded on the inhumanity of slavery and violence against the Africans. and the disposition of the Indigenous peoples of North America. Evil is indeed in the DNA of its founding fathers and to this day.

[@LouisWaweru]

When Witjawan says Indonesia dealt with multipolarity in a good way, he seems to completely ignore the CIA coup that installed Suharto and wiped out millions of his citizens for supporting neutrality. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him deal with this issue on the show, which makes the constant passive agreement anti-Sino remarks locate his loyalty in Washington rather than Southeast Asia. Good interview though. He got Mearsheimer to clearly illustrate the most key points on all of the issues.

[@bernardiaVEVO]

The smartest comment I found here. 🎉

[@jillesdjon]

Excellent observation 👌🏽

[@richiesd1]

So true

[@richiesd1]

Many who were educated in the west have a western bias. Prisoner of colonial mentality.

[@alexmae2300]

You hope someone whose life is connected to USA will be against it ?

[@looseshoulderssumali7311]

"...be intellectually curious in the extreme..." Now that's a good thing to live by.

[@niCEwan]

Agreed

[@leonardo__dicaprio]

Who said the quote?

[@marrks]

@@leonardo__dicapriowatch the video

[@MenelikAlkebulan]

Probably that’s his advice to young people. (Just started watching )

[@wangjim5839]

The sad thing about wars is that those who start or instigate a war are never in or even near the battle field themselves.

[@devianadkar7969]

Yes and those who go to war are not brave men and women fighting for their country. They are paid assasins fighting fir a few powerful individuals.

[@markusmaximus629]

never

[@benitopepolini1249]

Zelensky was near the front plenty of times 😂

[@RennyChan]

This is the biggest issue with modern warfare and our current politcal leaders. In the past, when there were kings and queens as leaders, they went to war and their entire families were on the front lines fighting and defending civilians. That entire equation has changed, what we have now is a system where our world leaders never have to put their lives on the line. They sit from afar and press a button and people die. There is a complete imbalance in what war entails and what is risked by those who call for war.

[@thewedge8823]

not true. Stalin's son was captured by the Nazis.... The Nazi's tried to exchange him, but his son was too low ranking for the Nazi that Russia had captured. Imagine that!! He said no to his own son.. How's that for nepotism?

[@bheamla]

One of the best interviews of Professor Mearsheimer. Thanks to the gentleman who is conducting the interview. He knows how to interview without any provocation and interruption.

[@daseokamenis]

Zionist🤢🤢🤢

[@motivationultra01]

Yea he is better than Teers Mongor!😂

[@kunfayakun10]

Tiap kali buka YT, headline algoritma YT saya isinya konten pak gita, sebegitu seringnya hampir tiap hari saya menonton end game 😅. Terima kasih pak gita atas tontonan gratisnya dan sehat selalu🙏

[@CHIPIONES]

If I hear Dr. Mearsheimer I cannot stop listening. He is really a smart and an erudite man! Tks a lot fof this interesting interview 👏👏👏

[@youssefelmrabet7033]

the same.

[@zetristan4525]

He's in the catbird seat

[@UB2K]

John is worthless no life living spreading conspiracy go and touch grass

[@user-cu9tp8dp1p]

Dem möchte ich mich gerne anschließen - habe bereits 2007 ,Die Israel Lobby' gelesen und bin hoch erfreut. dass diesem Mann, die Aufmerksamkeit zuteil wird, die ihm zusteht. Wenn unsere Politiker nur einen Bruchteil der Übersicht. der Ahnung, des Wissens besäßen, die Hern Maersheimers auszeichnet, wäre schon einiges gewonnen. Mehr Maersheimer - jederzeit immer gerne. Danke für dieses Interview.

[@RoEl-od9hl]

Keep hearing John talk about how much superior Russia is, 10x more artillery, Russia Air Force vs no Air Force, manpower advantage, industrial advantage.. so why haven’t they won yet? Been hearing this for 2 years now

[@justactonfact]

So much respect for him and his courage

[@fjordhellas4077]

Professor Mearsheimer is one of the most respected intellectuals, historians, geopoliticians in the U.S and the world! He’s among our most notable thinkers and visionaries just as Professors Noam Chomsky, Jeffery Sachs, Stephen Walt, Norman Finkelstein, Stephen F Cohen …

[@user-cg1qq2er8x]

Finkelstein is an abject fraud and moron. Chomsky is brilliant but a zealot with a personality disorder. Sachs is a lightweight. Stephen F. Cohen was a brilliant man. Mearsh. is a knock off of Cohen and not a very good one. Mearsh is only right about Ukraine.

[@YourFavouriteiA]

Named only jews like there are not american professors.

[@user-ou8sd1iw4b]

I personally prefer Professor Sachs hands down .

[@oceanlambert3325]

​@@user-ou8sd1iw4babsolutely. He is all the theories ! He has a severe lacking of understanding of the history of China & the Chinese ; so typical of the academics!

[@victordobin5918]

He knows nothing regarding the situation on the ground. He would have to come from the Eastern Europe to understand and comprehend what's going on on battlefield.

[@libertarianbydefault]

I am so delighted the way Professor addressed the ludicrous "win the peace" argument of Kotkin who clearly was delusional when he rambled about it in a previous program. The exclusion of Russia and Russian interests is a recipe for war. It has been the case in 2022 and it will continue being the case until someone wakes up and gets the balls to negotiate for real.

[@Mesamedusa]

Lose/Win the war/the peace is a framework for looking at things and understanding them. It is not an argument. JM had no trouble expressing his own (grim) views within this framework, demonstrating it's validity.

[@ajtexas1100]

Kotkin is a fraud, i don't get what people admire about him.

[@dangin8811]

​@@ajtexas1100He possesses a sort of scholarly charisma that is uncommon by academics. But youre right, he is ideologically blinkered and has various 'simpleton' moments.

[@Mesamedusa]

@@dangin8811 Could you pin such a moment?

[@ajtexas1100]

@@dangin8811 Charisma ? I don't see it, and don't care about it when it comes to historarians. If i want to learn about the history of a country, i don't want to read again the white/western version/vision that we're told about again and again. I read local historians. How on earth can people believe the history of Russia or China written by AngloSaxon people ? Pure nonsense.

[@fajar_siswandaru]

And one of the reasons that the United States usually obeys the rules is that we wrote the rules, and if a situation arises where we don't like the rules, we disobey the rules or rewrite them. That's the way international politics works. 1:11:00

[@pr0newbie]

It's called Rules-based order vs International Law. The US doesn't abide by international law.

[@josephsilkstone7535]

⁠@@pr0newbieUSA don’t abide by its own domestic humanitarian law. That’s scary.

[@fajar_siswandaru]

My rule based order

[@jameslum8822]

If you ignore the rules you wrote, then don't expect any other to adhere to it or respect you. In fact many will view you in contempt. That's what's facing US.

[@JayaMadhavadas]

PROFESSOR JOHN MEARSHEIMER A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND TRUTH,,,GOD BLESS HIM.

[@harisk6733]

Terima kasih banyak Pak Gita sudah mengundang kembali Prof. Mearsheimer. Saya salah satu pelajar yang mengidolakan beliau karena pandangan beliau terhadap isu-isu internasional. Melihat situasi Israel-Palestina yang memanas, saya sangat menantikan pendapat beliau mengenai hal tersebut. Alhamdulillahnya, Pak Gita menghadirkan beliau di Endgame. Luar biasa!

[@MC-1976Mei]

Sometimes it's best to walk away with your losses and not lose it all.

[@victordobin5918]

Show us and walk away from you home and your community!!....

[@hAI_2024]

I'm glad to see this man again and listen to his intriguing opinions about global geopolitical. Thanks, John. Stay healthy always.

[@bassocantante51]

Judge Napolitano has him on his show every week

[@lebladful]

"The Congress is Israëli Occupied territory" Pat Buchanan Bring AIPAC to justice for legalizing corruption, instead of improving people's lives,education and healthcare

[@JH-pt6ih]

@@lebladful Pat Buchanan - Trump 1.0 from the 90s.

[@discoverer7175]

I think this debate would be a lot fairer and unbiased toward China if Professor Jeffery Sachs and Kishore Mahbubani are also invited. Their opinions would be significantly different from Professor Mearsheimer and that of the moderator.

[@echozhang4486]

I think one flaw in Professor Mearsheimer’s theory is that he assumes China will rise and becomes another hegemony like America even though China has been saying no we just want to rise peacefully and peacefully co-exist with other countries, including the neighboring countries.

[@jameslum8822]

The moderator has barrowed himself in the US anthill and is naturally biased against China.

[@successcollege4283]

감사합니다.

[@gwirjawan]

지원해줘서 고마워 🙏

[@metugeekane8454]

People think of Mearsheimer as an academic, but Mearsheimer is also a soldier, which makes his analyses quite intriguing.

[@robhaythorne4464]

Mearsheimer was an Air Force Lieutenant who served five years in a Los Angeles office. He couldn't wait to shed his uniform.

[@Roberto-de8xv]

​​@@robhaythorne4464Your post history is smearing John as a supporter of Russia. My man the world, particularly geopolitics, is not binary. If you were going to accuse him of a bias it would be anti-Soviet/Russia if you've read any of his literature. If someone observes country X has an advantage over country Y in a war, it doesn't mean the observer is biased towards country X. *You'd probably agree China has an advantage over Tawain. Does that mean you support China for acknowledging that advantage? Of course not.

[@Truthorfib]

@@Roberto-de8xvChina has an economic advantage over the US and have stopped buying US bonds. Hence the Treasury Secretary went to China out if panic 😂

[@Truthorfib]

@@Roberto-de8xvthe US Dollar though is still a major trump card the US has. But as soon as the BRICS currency is implemented the US economy is going to implode

[@MaskedUpActivities]

@@Truthorfibare you drunk? China is an a economic pooper they lost 90% of foreign investment the Chinese economy is literally about to collapse 😂😂😂the property market has fell too

[@LeonEdwards-lt1bn]

Thank you Professor Mearsheimer

[@osamuikeda3953]

Survival of the fittest doesn't necessarily come through raw strength. Offering mutually beneficial relationships can be a source of real power.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

That’s how China has moved 500 million people out of poverty the last 30 years without fighting a single war

[@hisham1269]

‘The reason u need a lobby … is because there’s a lot of instances where isreal’s interests conflicts with American interests and lobby wants to go to great lengths to make sure isreal’s interests prevail’ wow, quite simple but never thought of it this way.

[@eddiefu3727]

Thank you Projessor Mearsheimer

[@paulheydarian1281]

What's a projessor? 🤔😁

[@BallyBoy95]

@@paulheydarian1281 spelling mistake

[@user-cu9tp8dp1p]

Dieses Interview sollte Pflichtlektüre für die deutsche Bundesregierung sein. Diese kann meinetwegen weiterhin der Meinung sein. dass Israel kein Apartheid Staat ist. Ich selbst bin da voll auf der Seite von Prof. Maersheimer.

[@halifaxeh]

@@user-cu9tp8dp1pIsrael is not an apartheid state?! Did you sleep through that part?

[@halifaxeh]

@@paulheydarian1281you’ve never made a spelling mistake, eh? So obnoxious.

[@audrajones]

Oh Mearsheimer, how wonderful you are.

[@oswarz]

Would you please give an example of where China is trying to rewrite the rules?

[@ChrisZ901]

China has been advocating international law based order instead of the (US/Western) rule based order which has been used by US and her allies to attack China. China does not want to be ruled by those laws which in the US's book is rewriting the rules

[@lyq232]

Not yet, because they're not powerful enough to do it just yet. China would love it if they could repeal EEZ and lau absolute claim over South China Sea

[@UrMediaIsFake]

China is not trying to rewrite rules at all, it just wants to be equal and not be ruled by foreign white imperial power. Most of Asia is the same except they are too weak to resist. This is what he means by "threat", you and I would see it as threat but these global empire fanatics think they own the world and any country can't rule over is considered a "threat"

[@MrSilv55]

You forget that China Has hypersonic missiles that can sink all the US warships.

[@astfgl1265]

It is such a pleasure to listen to Prof. Mearsheimer. Great conversation, thank you both!

[@ruudgreat9810]

Thanks to .....USA elites, despite all non proliferation, Pakistan got nucleair weapons and missiles. The US is the most dangerous country in the world whch showed many times that it is impossible to hold it serious for any agreements..

[@daseokamenis]

Zionist 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@Jean-rg4sp]

*John Mearsheimer is easy to understand and he appears to be correct in his assessment of international relations.*

[@zetristan4525]

That's a bold assessment.

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@zetristan4525 Thank you for noticing my comment.

[@j.sarnak1391]

Really how is his assessment of China's intentions any different from US foreign policy?? China has not attacked anyone in this century. They are building a defense against the Empire of lies. Think about the prosperity China has brought to other countries without forcing regime change on them.

[@zetristan4525]

@@j.sarnak1391 What is your (differing) assessment of how China will proceed, proactively, in the South China Sea, in the decade ahead?

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@j.sarnak1391 I agree with you and I heard John Mearsheimer say the same.

[@hswilly236]

salute dengan Anda Pak Gita bisa mengundang akademisi dunia tentang power politics Dr. Mearsheimer, terima kasih Pak!

[@asthadwivedi6749]

Thankyou so much for bringing this great man again.

[@JhonJhoni-py6vc]

Great prof. Gita..l am listening from Australia..

[@hassu2149]

What are your opinions on USA

[@underblackflag3335]

@@hassu2149 USA is great

[@ajtexas1100]

@@underblackflag3335 No it's not great at all.

[@ewilson0223]

​@@ajtexas1100great is an understatement. 😊

[@zhuoli2139]

Amen to the hubris-humility part

[@sitihajerah7606]

Terima kasih pak Gita, Indonesia butuh orang2 yang menginspirasi seperti bapak

[@gungadi1860]

Udah 2x Pak John Mearsheimer jadi narasumber Endgame & saya selalu suka bagaimana cara beliau menyikapi sesuatu dengan konsep realistis yang beliau gunakan. Meskipun beliau warga negara USA tapi bisa memberikan pandangan secara menyeluruh tidak hanya dari sudut pandang USA saja.

[@Mzmk155]

Ini temubual kedua dengan Prof. Mearsheimer. Syabas kepada Gita Wijawan

[@anthonyfx100]

Good dialogue but Gita disappoints in not pushing back on John’s well known hawkish views about China’s potential aims in East Asia, I think.

[@Justin87878]

Agreed! like other commenters said.

[@wawanhermawan-sz7gl]

it's not gita's style to push or challenge his guest, he always lets his guest offers their views without being confronted. for example, 42:00 gita is correct that zionism was not meant to commit genocide, but john wrongly stated that they know from the start they're going to cleanse the palestinian because they couldnt have established a jewish state among palestinians. well, zionism started in late 19th century was to find homeland for the jews, not to establish a jewish state, therefore it's possible to live side by side as long as they're not praticing apartheid as in the original zionism. first generation of aliyah among zionists in 19th century was relatively peaceful, things gotten worse only since balfour declaration and jewish businessmen (rothschild etc) who bought many lands etc. but then, gita didn't try to debate john either though i think he knows john was wrong here.

[@casteretpollux]

​@@wawanhermawan-sz7glThe British army trained up genocidal Zionist forces in the 30s and they were unleashed in the 48 Nakba slaughter and eviction of a substantial part of the population. They have continued step by step since then.

[@shelonnikgrumantov5061]

@@wawanhermawan-sz7glI’d say, the idea that Jews could live peacefully among Arabs and under the Turkish rule was either totally naive and delusional (which would be strange for such a clever nation) or disguising the real goals. If you want to have Jews settling and living en masse while surrounded by Arabs, you need to carve out a state for them - I suspect, Jews realized this from the beginning just at the initial stages did not proclaim this openly for the obvious reasons.

[@fasha7747]

​@@shelonnikgrumantov5061You don't understand Judaism. Jews back then didn't have the idea that there should be a 'Jewish state,' at least until the Messiah comes according to their beliefs. In fact, it's prohibited. Traditional Jewish belief holds that the establishment of a Jewish state is linked to the arrival of the Messiah and the Messianic age.

[@CharlesDogworth]

Best interview of John Mearsheimer ive seen. Interviewer did an outstanding job, and John really captured some important perspectives. 👍👍

[@elwoodgroves7848]

Bravo for Dr. Mearsheimer for his courageous expose of the Israel lobby. His books and public statements have done much to document the power of the Israel lobby in American politics and the government of the United States. He is to be commended!

[@ninelegyak]

Mearsheimer assumes Asia follows the "balance of power" rules of the Westphalian system. But for 1000s of years, China was dominant in the region and no other Asian power sought to "balance" against them, because that was simply unrealistic. The only way there is any "balance" of power in Asia now is if the US is included, but that just creates unnecessary potential for war. So, his analysis of power politics kind of falls apart in that context, or is simply an argument to maintain the US reach.

[@keyser021]

A country founded on the principles of the 2nd Amendment and the Monroe Doctrine doesn't get to determine the "balance of power" on the other side of the globe with a country five times its size and equivalent military capabilities. The US doesn't belong there in the first place. Committing mass murder through the use of nuclear weapons on an island nation that was in the throes of defeat rather than waiting for a blockade to seal the deal crowns them kings of evil who forfeit any claim of "belonging" anywhere that's beyond 2,000 miles of their own border. The fact that 4% of global population is deluded to the point that they think they control the other 96% percent of the world could only be reinforced through the fantasy machine of Hollywood where men in pink leather sing about dolls and Scientologists play make believe that the US wins wars. The US is in Asia because they can't build GPUs like the Chinese do in the Republic Of China. Plain and simple.

[@libertarianbydefault]

I am not sure you understand Mersheimer correctly. What do you mean by "balance of power in Asia"? Is there a balance of power in western hemisphere? His point is that China is looking to become a regional hegemon and the US is doing all it can to prevent that from happening. That all fits perfectly with the Professor's theory of offensive realism. The US is trying to balance against China but it is a tall order given the geography and regional balance of power within which China, being on good terms with Russia, feels pretty comfortable. That is why Mearsheimer always says that it was stupid of the US to screw up the relationship with Russia as the latter could have been a major balancing factor against China. Alas, the US chose to make an enemy out of Russia by pursuing its idiotic policies in Europe. China is the main beneficiary of that foolishness. Lastly, the statement that China has been the dominant power in the region for 1000 years is simply not true: Japan was a great power until the end of WW2, it more than challenge China. Have you heard of the "Century of Humiliation"?

[@ninelegyak]

@@libertarianbydefault Before the Europeans came to Asia (1500s), and even for few centuries after that (until the Opium War), China was the dominant power in Asia. Did other Asian powers (Edo Japan, Korea, Siam, etc) try to "balance" against China during those centuries? No. There's no "balance of power" in the Americas, either, after the US attained dominance. So, what is the point of balancing in Asia? Seems the only point is to keep the US in a central position in the region. But at some point the balancing will prove more dangerous/provocative than protective.

[@libertarianbydefault]

@@ninelegyak No nation in Asia can effectively balance against China of today (and I shall gladly concede the same for the past long gone), that much is true. The point here is that the US does not want China to be a hegemon so it does all it can to prevent it from happening, that in itself if the "balancing" act. The US DOES have the means of balancing against China, at least to a degree. So the US goes to Asia and gets itself very, very deeply involved with all the nations it can to balance against China. It is apparently not quite enough as China keeps getting stronger (and the US - relatively weaker) hence the call in the US to "pivot towards China", i.e. spend more of everything to double-down on the balancing act. Balance does not mean an immutable status quo, it is a never-ending power struggle between the bigger nations to position them selves - relatively - better than others. At least that is the way I interpret Mearsheimer's theory and it makes plenty of sense to me.

[@ninelegyak]

@@libertarianbydefault The problem with the theory is that it explains why the US is balancing by linking with the security architectures of various Asian nations, but it doesn't really explain why the Asian nations should link with the US if China will be regionally dominant anyway. Consider, what benefit would Mexico get from linking its security to China to balance against the US? None. Such an action only dangerously antagonizes the regionally dominant power, so why do it? There's no threat of the US attacking its neighbors, just like China has no plans to invade anyone (except Taiwan), but it would do so if it felt an outside great power is seriously threatening its sphere, like why Russia invaded Ukraine. Seems like it would be better, even from a realist perspective, for Asian nations to not be overly linked with the US.

[@johnstack5008]

I'm amazed how sharp the professor is at 76 years old.

[@paulheydarian1281]

Thankfully not everyone ages like Joe Biden. 😅

[@halifaxeh]

That’s a rather ageist comment! Most people don’t have dementia in their 70s.

[@brianbutler3318]

Not fair to compare really smart people with average IQ people

[@lisabahouth8893]

Unbelievably ageist comment.

[@user-kz8my6kf3w]

Makes Biden look 139. Guy is a disgraceful. The people shoving him in front of crowds is just utter cruelty. The guys suffering and being belittled through no fault of his own. Another term. The people around him should be arrested. It’s utterly humiliating to watch him. This guy is sharp as a tack. A total pleasure to listen to.

[@e.errami2284]

One of the BEST INTERVIEWS you can find on KZbin. Amazing Channel and interviewer! You can tell Mr. Mearsheimer enjoyed it as much as we have... props to you. If that's the Indonesian way of speaking i wanna be Indonesian!

[@matrixemperor36]

Thank you Prof. Meirsheimer. You are a great American hero and a gift to humanity.

[@dev5392]

Professor is a knowledgeable man and has been telling us this for years this was all predictable

[@vkerametlian3]

You are correct

[@GaryGraham-sx4pm]

@@vkerametlian3 the professor is a defeatist, appeasement with a belligerent adversary never ends well

[@LP-zr4iq]

so beautiful to listen to these carefully spoken words, thank you!

[@cresenciashamsoddin2942]

Great man with Reason and wisdom John Mearshiemer truth Matters to the whole world your voice Echo and heard by the righteous people around the world

[@crisisbliss2462]

the question that has not been answered as of 36 minutes is if AIPAC has to lobby for things, how does AIPAC hold so much power over US politicians that they "fear" for their jobs if they don't capitulate to them? Who are the people that make up AIPAC?

[@BigMu365]

it is by exploiting them video tap them with sex tapes with minors etc ... Epstein case is best example

[@GMATveteran]

19:00 - Vietnam is hardly an "ardent supporter" of the US; it's simply pragmatic & realistic enough to stay equidistant between the US & PRC, so as to maintain its own independence, & play big powers off against one another for its own benefit.

[@haroldoluizrodriguesfilho7779]

Thanks for your considerations , the World needs to pay attention in your words and thoughts

[@faisalkamandobat3125]

Mearsheimer selalu logis dan akurat, seorang maestro dari sekolah realis. Tapi yang lebih membuat respek adalah integritas dan keberaniannya untuk bicara berdasarkan ilmunya, bukan berdasar keinginan penguasa.

[@RangKlos]

Such a complete wisdom. My admiration goes to the interviewer too.

[@yusufhidayat3149]

Pak kalau boleh adakan dialog dengan Yanis Varoufakis

[@kaeltkottmir]

Ditunggu nih hehe

[@ihsanrachid8763]

As noted in Haaretz, Netanyahu seems to boast of his knowledge of the US by saying, "I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in their way." He also boasts of manipulating the U.S. in the ongoing peace process, as the Washington Post points out: "They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]," he said. "I said I would, but ... I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue." America, apparently, is moved by the Israel lobby. Evidence to the contrary has yet to emerge.

[@solneeman518]

If you move to. Gaza for a while, you will change your mind.

[@irisheyes5890]

We even let him speak on the floor of our Congress!!

[@acommon1]

Total John Mearsheimer Fan & Follower!!! Realist Rock! Thanks 🙏🏽 you having a true statesman on your show. I plan to read up on your materials too

[@GeoffreyZhao-cw8sq]

John Mearsheimer, what a human being!

[@reginaldpoofta5]

professor Mearsheimer is the national treasure.

[@PhiloSurfer]

To the global majority, Prof is a national treasure. To the MIC, the US regime and the media, Prof is a traitor, and is shunned and ostracized.

[@roccos2311]

Don’t tell Nicholas cage

[@UB2K]

He’s absolutely worthless spreading conspiracy theories

[@user-xp5id1kh4r]

No he's not, lol. Half of his life's work was proven wrong when Russia invaded Ukraine. The only reason why his name is even known is because his theories fit the pro-Rus propagandistic narrative.

[@Mesamedusa]

@@UB2K Point to a theory and where can I here him talking about it? Be precise.

[@Qiushishuo]

There are three miscalculation there about China. 1. There is no trade are influenced in SCS. 2. China will respond the contain strategy from US. No one likes repression. 3. China is not US, who wants to grab all. China is fine with South east Asia for thousands of years.

[@philipemerson473]

China is imploding all on its own.

[@NoohCee]

Agree with you totally. But please improve your English, seriously.

[@putrapratama-sq8hu]

Bullshit... There are three miscalculation there about China. (ULTIMATE BULLSHIT) 1. There is no trade are influenced in SCS. ---------------------> YES THEY ARE $5.3 trillion worth of goods transits through the South China Sea annually 2. China will respond the contain strategy from US. No one likes repression.---------------------------> GOOD LUCK FACING JAPAN AND INDIA (They Hate You) 3. China is not US, who wants to grab all. China is fine with South east Asia for thousands of years.--------------------------------> LIKE YOU STEAL FILIPINO AND VIETNAMESE ISLAND??? OR STEALING OUR FISH!!!

[@ghoziakbar6410]

"For thousands of years" It's not like China was always this powerful for thousands of years, they have long history of collapses in every couple of centuries.

[@Pelerkuda45]

You don't see what China Coast Guard doing on Philliphine Coast Line

[@BindasBadshah]

Wonderful discussion..

[@hannahlouisefitzpatrick6742]

Thank-you for this wonderful conversation!

[@verdanaf]

the US should accept the fact that nations progress and develop. let each become superpower in each continent and focus on prosperity instead of wars.

[@tedwong7037]

john mearsheimer’s point of view based on the prediction that China is going to walk through the road exactly like how America did when it became a superpower, but he kinda ignored the history path of the chinese civilization, Chinese are just not the same like the Anglos. Chinese never had those colonial mentality, if they do, SEA are full of small countries, it should be easy for a elephant like China to manipulate those small states and exploit them, but on the other hand, China has only been building up economic connections and do more business with them.

[@Joaocruz30]

You said it ALL! greetings from Portugal!

[@sholrothaegis3125]

you might want to take a look at the history of china how it grows then you would know that what you say might not be concurrently true...

[@Joaocruz30]

@@sholrothaegis3125 that statement is a fair one if already known the future. We cannot accept the fact that we don't like the political values of a country but you cannot judge their future actions just by not liking them! We see their true colours by their actions and not by their words. If so then the austrian painter with a moustache was a great man...

[@chenqin415]

This is extremely foolish and ignorant of China's history. During the cultural revolution for example, China export its marxist revolutionary teachings to many countries, provide training and arms to native armed groups (thus they are known as maoist revolutionaries), host radio stations within China itself for these maoist forces. For example, the Communist Party of Malaya which fought an insurgency against Malaysia's government has its radio station in hunan China. This only come to an end when Mao died and Deng took over. He decide that China should build economic ties instead of export marxist revolution and ordered these forces to step down. And they did. With the way China is going today, who knows if Xi will revive the cultural revolution again and build a cult of personality for himself?

[@pisaukaratan]

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[@kuloglu6311]

When talking about the US return to East Asia to contain China, the guest becomes very excited.

[@jeankern2646]

Maersheimer wants more military bases around China? Now he completely lost me.

[@glebskakovsky9475]

Maersheimer is one of the most talanted enemy ideologists.

[@fadhlmohamed2896]

You missed the point he was describing and analyzing the geopolitical and military agenda of the USA not actually supporting it.

[@ramiramadan3578]

WHAT A GREAT INTELLECTUAL CONVERSATION BETWEEN 2 SCHOLARS EACH IN HIS LIFE JOURNEY ...

[@johnconstable1715]

His voice is being heard in Australia

[@halifaxeh]

Great interview! Very informative! Wish I could take a whole class from Prof Mearsheimer!

[@fajarliong]

The old man certainly enjoyed talking about the Ukraine losing in the war, as the reality proved his foresight. Well, he is right in many ways🍻, and deserves recognition

[@halifaxeh]

That’s fairly rude, as it comes across to me. I don’t think he is taking any joy in being right and watching Ukraine lose more and more territory.

[@sabinehahn9774]

"the Australians gonna defend Taiwan with us"? I wouldn't hold my breath on that one - the population is certainly not keen at all on doing so or being dragged by the US into another useless war, gonna be interesting if our government, whoever it may be at the time, is going to be able to force us.

[@lyq232]

The government can always mobilise their armed forces without the consent of their civilians. Would that then be a political suicide for said ruling government? That's a different question

[@glebskakovsky9475]

The war with nuclear capable enemy...

[@arifra2062]

It doesn't matter what the population think, Australia is literally the lapdog of the US.

[@alfanfajri409]

As an academic from a western country he speaks very neutrally and in accordance with academic values, unlike their hypocritical media

[@tohweecheng]

A lot of respect for the professor. What I would like to hear is the consideration of the cultures' influences in the decision making, rather than focusing on how the rest of the non-Western world would make decision based on pure Western thinking. Remember, China would have to govern Taiwan island once they re-unified, which is unlike Israel (who would just go ahead to cleanse), or Russia (who would be happy if Ukraine remains a rump state).

[@rusminnoer632]

Professor Mearsheimer is the BEST. Cerdas luar biasa...

[@richardhausig9493]

Gita does good stuff. Great guests and he asks good questions.

[@successcollege4283]

Thank you. Love & Respect from Seoul Korea

[@smokeydiamond489]

This is not your average low quality zoom debate

[@abdisujana175]

Saya sangat menghargai usaha bapak dalam memberikan informasi yang menurut saya sangat berharga untuk saya. Saluuut

[@bigtuna45]

I have to say I love the final discussion about the Hubris-Humility index, this concept allows anyone no matter their age to be mentally agile. Also you can tell he's from New York, he pronounces the word "Idea" as "Idear", reminds me of all of my relatives that do this.

[@rajatshrma3]

Professor is a True Legend.

[@suleimanjarara5379]

Thank you gentlemen for a great interview.I appreciate your time and thoughtful talk. It was a pleasure listening to you.

[@margaritadubrovina7063]

Appreciate the thought and insight on this matter

[@LordEdwards]

Thanks for your honesty Mr. Mearshiemer

[@charlieawesome2624]

wish i had Mearsheimer as my teacher when i was a student

[@jacksonxie6911]

The questions around South China sea are hard for John, as a settlement in South China sea will mark as an end to the US influence in South China sea. So US don't want to see it happens, or even willingly pushing for a conflict.

[@user-cu9tp8dp1p]

So war es und so ist es. Während die USA Kriege führen, kümmern sich die Chinesen um Handel und Wirtschaft.

[@clipwat1511]

Good point. I fully agree with your assessment. I don’t think that china wants a conflict. There are no benefits for them when the whole region is destabilized. It would stop the economic growth. And it would push all the ASEAN incl. Taiwan towards US. Therefore the only hegemon interested in a conflict or destabilization of the region is the US. It aligns perfectly with their containment strategy for china. Furthermore the conflict would be, not surprising, far from american soil. So I hope China, ASEAN and Taiwan can somehow find a solution which benefits them and not the US.

[@lyq232]

Huge disagree. Letting China do away with settlements will just make the SEA to China as is South America to USA. China just can't let the 9 dash line go, and as long as they insist on it, I can never trust China 100% as a SE asian.

[@fajarliong]

The publication of this video is rather late, close to one month after the interview. While it is interesting, the geopolitical situation changed day by day rather fast. Still kudos for the effort 👌

[@robertgriffin6668]

Professor Mearshimer has been correct about the macro geo political situation for the last 30 years, whether it be NATO expansion or Israel. The day to day trials and tribulations fluctuate.

[@thecommentnews7447]

Ketika Mas Gita mengalihkan pembahasan dari Gaza ke Tiongkok, sepertinya menarik nafas yang sangat dalam. Barangkali karena terkait jawaban Dr. Mearsheimer bahwa tidak ada jalan tengah antara Palestina dan Is****. 😢😢

[@organizer14]

Thank you for your courageous sharing of the inconvenient truth re Ukraine and US foreign policy of military force...

[@dubu4016]

Thanks Professor ❤

[@mcs351]

"that's why the American has to be there" ... come on, the Americans are in the region Not to protect its friends or the SEA nations, it's to defend its own hegemony

[@annawarner1078]

Meanwhile we are getting destroyed economically. Already China is number one economic power in the world. US lost this position.

[@alexchristensen9712]

INDIA RAS A HEDGEMO Y WITH SUNAK AND our vice president

[@alexchristensen9712]

MERESMEAR IS AN IDIOT Kennedy was assassinated by Soviet indoctrinated Oswald and Jimmy Carter served one term of Liberalism till Clinton Presidency. R'S HOLE knows no history

[@Sams_Uncle]

What a beautiful, sane and logically sound conversation! Even though, I disagree with them on Israel issue, that’s why more wise dialogues are needed. Thank you 🙏

[@gheo.2641]

One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen

[@rachelmropp]

I wish he would explain what he thinks the "Chinese threat" actually is.

[@rolandwong9306]

He has done it elsewhere. China's rise threatens the US as a regional hegemon.

[@MegaSuehan]

Threat to the US hegemony.

[@naturalselection1203]

Almost all of the so-called geo political experts talk on the Chinese threat,but never care to elaborate on that.

[@MrSilv55]

You forget that China Has hypersonic missiles that can sink all the US warships.

[@ChrisZ901]

DR JM completely misunderstood the chicken and egg problem in SCS. China's military presence there is exactly because the US is there

[@HanS662]

He’s not misunderstanding. He knows exactly why. He just doesn’t say it but he knows it’s due to US provoking.

[@mouradbsiri3822]

John is the founder in Geopolics of a School of Thought '' Pragmatism'', based on a deep understanding of the various forces in presence with a rogourous evaluation of their main assets (Vision, Military, Economy, Energy,,..). He proved to be right on several occasions .He remains for viewers a great source of a credible Info in Geopolitics.

[@iqbalamarullah8]

Inilah salah satu hebatnya podcastnya Pak Gita dibandingkan podcast lokal yang lain. Beliau bisa mendatangkan orang-orang hebat untuk berbagi ilmu secara free kepada kita. ❤❤❤

[@BloodyPandas]

I think it is necessary to add to the arguement of Prof. John Mearsheimer saying China is unlikely to invade Taiwan. It was only mentioned by Prof. John Mearsheimer when interviewed by Chinese journalists "unless the Taiwanese is foolish enough to declare independence". As Prof. John Mearsheimer said nationalism is the most powerful ideology in the world, Chinese elites will be forced to start the war against becasue of the nationalism.

[@UrMediaIsFake]

The fact is always never mentioned that Taiwan is officially a Chinese province, it would never classed as an invasion. It's written in the Constitution, the same constitution that Taiwan follows is the Chinese constitution, the Republic of China. There is no threat looming, no war needed unless Taiwan declares Independence. Which would never happen because it doesn't makes sense politically or economically. Live and let live. The political reunification needs to be settled by Chinese people on both side of the the Strait.

[@Pitonisa]

Thank you both ! From Brazil.

[@adonixp]

I love listening to Dr Mearsheimer

[@GloWinGlo]

As a citizen of the world, it is imperative to be intellectually curious so as to use critical thinking to contribute to making the world better through agency! ❤

[@wantom14]

Thank you to the both Professors. I considered the session as a discussion session that save me from reading a pile of books to understand international politics. The students in related field would very much benefited from it.

[@bellatui2015]

Read the books!!! Use your own mind to come to conclusions.You are listening to opinions, not facts.

[@aumelb]

​@@bellatui2015there are quite a lot of facts in Mearsheimer's books.

[@nadiawheeler4772]

Thank you

[@tjoleary8738]

Hubris humility Index...I love it and there are boatloads of wisdom built in!

[@marke4640]

Can't we imagine a world in which EVERYONE GAINS?

[@richardmackenzie1878]

Who's "We" prof. Gita? Why do you automatically side with US over China?

[@zhuoli2139]

prof. Gita is a very professional interviewer, he automatically sides with the guest during the interview, not necessarily reflecting his own opinion. He does this in each of his interviews.

[@bangpitestea3889]

@@zhuoli2139yes , he did not comment when John said Indonesia also have claim in South China Sea which is not true . It seems that Gita do not want to contradict John (and guest) typical Indonesian behaviors

[@suadrifkoplak]

​@@bangpitestea3889Indonesia indeed have issue in SCS but in small territory making China not really pushing it againts Indonesia after Jokowi stance in 2021. Chinese think its not worth having conflict with Indonesia