Losing US Supremacy to China | Walter Russell Mead

[@8spores]

America politics is sick, but it keeps insisting China takes the medicine.

[@gunsumwong3948]

Hit the bull's eye!

[@josephguo3429]

US is nothing to China since long before. problem for China is too many foreign currency in hand.

[@zhoubaidinh403]

Bingo...

[@andrewlim7751]

If it's medicines did works, one might wonder what happened to its own backyard.

[@seekstruth5968]

The destruction of the American worker because of job loss to china is part of the cause of the present American political strife.

[@katprowler6805]

Henry Kissinger Quote - “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”.

[@nudisco7882]

​@President Eden The quote clearly went over your head but not the Europeans.

[@petergreen5337]

Precisely

[@Christian___]

@@nudisco7882 It's you who doesn't understand the quote; here it is in context: “Nixon should be told that it is probably an objective of Clifford to depose Thieu (South Vietnamese president Nguyen Van Thieu-ed.) before Nixon is inaugurated. Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”

[@nudisco7882]

@@Christian___ Ummm. I know the. context. Clearly went over your head also.

[@Christian___]

@@nudisco7882 He was saying 'if we back out of South Vietnam, then we risk getting a reputation for not being willing to intervene to back up our friends.' i.e. the quotation was designed to argue for more proactive use of American military power to support US allies abroad, which I think is literally the opposite of what you're trying to use it for.

[@tinatang1]

Please do not dismiss the Chinese people's immense contribution to China's rise. It is indisputable that the Chinese people are incredibly hardworking.

[@JunkSock]

Sounds like a shill, and you’re obviously correct: anything good that happened happened because of the people and not their political regime.

[@kimchiba4570]

White people beliefs.... When they buy something from you, they get what they want but they are doing you a greater favour.. Delusional

[@tinatang1]

@BrianT Yes, the role played by their government(s) is vital!

[@stewatparkpark2933]

China's rise is 100% down to the West transferring their manufacturing jobs and technology to China .

[@Christian___]

No one in the West thinks that the Chinese aren't hard working; if we didn't care about the rights and wellbeing of normal Chinese citizens then there would be no need to criticise the one-party system in China, we'd just shut up and trade.

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

My best friend is from Hong Kong. When I first met him many years ago, he used to have negative views on China. That is to be expected as people in Hong Kong were brought up under the British media to think negatively of China. But after many years living in Australia, he completely changed his position on China. And during the height of Trump's trade war with China, he gave up his Apple phone and went and bought a Huawei phone as a symbolic support of China! He, like me, didn't start off on China's side of this debate. We were pushed to China's side by the crazy media in the West.

[@WWLooi-js8rl]

I hear you, we have many people like your friend. It is not good for the collective West, especially the U.S. as many of us who used to think highly of them feel that they have been deceived. They will no longer trust the West like they used to.

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@BrianT I never said anything about China is better or worse. I was talking about the western mainstream media. (Edit : but yes I do think China is better in many respects. And the West is better in some respects)

[@georgening6083]

@BrianT Interesting...I guess you can reply here very good Chinese after "spent years of Chinese culture and ..." 既然这么了解中国也这么关心中国的话题，大家用中文聊聊呗？对了，不是你一个人到世界各地旅游，这句话证明不了你言论的合理性和理性，只能显示一个人的傲慢和无知！

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

Speaks for me too! I am from HK, 42 years old, and what you wrote completely describes me. I did give up on Apple after the US started its economic war against China, as did the rest of my family. I now only exclusively buy phones made by China. Long live the CPC - the guardian of the Chinese nation, the Chinese people, and our collective interests!

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@@pineapplesareyummy6352 👍

[@tyko2686]

The biggest downfall for US is its unwillingness to look inside and the courage to do what’s necessary for themselves within, instead US politicians only choose to blame outside forces for their own problems at home. It’s easier to blame others as one need not to take responsibility

[@AugustusOmega]

THATS NOT IT YOU GOOSE its much simpler than that. The international stage for a politician, especially a yank, is all upside and now downside. they can do and say whatever they want and nobody really cares. They might even curry favor but nobody will hate them in the US for taking a dump on Iran or china. ITS MUCH MUCH SIMPLER THAN A SOUL SEARCH...international politics is for the dumbest politicians because they cant lose, its a casino, say this, see the response...its about their personal fortunes not about the country or the health of the world

[@What.7777]

The USA trying to destroy a successfully developed country like China by all means in every area to keep their power instead of improving itself, that's the problem, every one knows play dirty doesn't work.

[@peacerespect98]

Yes, USA brings wars and sanctions to others.

[@51Sable]

Another reincarnation of McCain keeps winging about lost international influence. To regain status of world gendarme would cost USA all infrastructure programs for next 30 years. I wish I would see Americans living in crippled houses driving over collapsing bridges with pride of running world from Washington. 😅😅😅

[@steveperreira5850]

The fact is the USA is decadent. Pervert ls of every kind of thrive here, especially child molesters, and then there is the political orthodoxy, that killing babies is just fine. More than 1 million babies a year I killed before they are born in the USA. Something to be proud of?

[@leogeek]

This guy talked the world like the whole world belongs to US, and never realized the root of danger for this world is the existence and mindset of people like him.

[@junizhao]

The utter arrogance will lead the US to total destruction!

[@HerrschmannNachmann]

... and, he has forgotten that "it is not a country, but just a business..." → kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4eZeHukrap9oMk

[@scottstevenson8989]

He ignores the fact that the US military been turned into a money making machine, not for the common good, but for the good of those grafters who profit from it. War is a racket! Stop trying to push us into conflicts by fear mongering. The danger for the US does not come from outside our borders but from within. Money has corrupted our political process.

[@viorica8402]

Hopefully China, Russia are now friends or at least partners, to make a multipolar world. America (usa at last) is a genocidal nation from the beginings

[@dryeoh2023]

I agree with you!

[@casteretpollux]

Why on earth does this person think he should rule over anyone ?

[@angelxxsin]

Typical neocon.

[@fallennarcotic6981]

Because he comes from the U.S. I wonder if that was the attitude of the ancient romans too

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@antpoo]

Ppl need to be ruled. Not just due to the fact that most people are followers, But due to efficiencies of scale, the world always gravitates toward empire as a scientific fact. Multi polar worlds are no where near as efficient as empire, However empires do tend to abuse their power. Iran is a natural hegemon of the Middle East, China is a natural hegemon of Eurasia, and even possibly the world. The US cannot sustain global empire across the pacific, it’s too energy inefficient.

[@billgates1212]

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[@thefourthrabbit9516]

As a Chinese who observed over the years the "human fallacy" Prof. Mead talked about unfold, let me humbly point out what might be the true human fallacy here. (1) The idea that you can change the ideologies of other nations using military force and coups, rather than following a natural course of development-reform-change. This caused the US to repeatedly engage in useless foreign interferences that disturb a region, adding to its own problems. (2) Nowadays there seems to be a belief in the West that China never changed since 1949 and never "westernized". That is simply not true. In China, even today, most people are greatly impressed by the development of the US (still do) and admire the achievement of the US like people in any other country. Many aspects of our society are modelled after the US (except in some core aspects) or other Western countries (including Japan). (3) The diplomatic idea of "balance of power", which can be traced to 17-18 century European geopolitics, will not help to achieve peace or the long-term interest of the West. Not only will this "balance of power" strategy inevitably clash with "rules based order" but will also bring about dangers of nuclear wars. The once "brilliant idea" of stirring up regional conflicts and reap the benefit as mediator no longer works in a globalized era where everyone stand to lose from such conflicts. (4) The most fundamental fallacy is the belief that the rise of China, India, and other developing countries is a zero-sum threat ("they win, we lose"). One notable fact about China's economic growth from 1978 to 2018 is that it did not come at the cost of Western economies (as Donald Trump seemed to suggest). Instead, it was driven by open sharing of innovations in the West (e.g., computer science, the internet, the automobile industry), the growing consumer market of the West, and the industriousness of its 1 billion labor force. From 2010s, China's economy is also partly driven by indigenous innovations but still greatly reliant on exchanges with Western countries (like Japan and South Korea). Yet political scientists in the West today seems to exaggerate the innovative prowess of East Asian to such a degree that their reaction is more like a panic attack than a rational response. It does not seem to occur to them that to play a zero-sum game (against a player like China), you cannot starve it to death by isolation. Instead, both sides will have to relinquish all the accumulated growth in the past 30 years and rebuild entire economic models (just to replace the parts played by their "opponents"). You must first turn a "win-win" into a "lose-lose". And this is the idea that is being preached everywhere (even in China) and we are truly doomed if no one believes the alternative is possible.

[@dkblack1289]

I think you are too cultured and educated for this man I have never heard of to understand you. This is the greatest stupidity for mankind to come to the piblic and say that white supremacy, which he labels as "American" was a given. These kind of people are not at Quincy, Hudson, Brookings or Foreign Affairs because they are bright, but because they are supremacists, racists, and honestly, low IQ. "They are chinks, and they cannot do better than us!" that is the message as they engage in white tribal mentality.

[@Christian___]

I agree with 1, 2 and a lot of 4... The problem with Liberal Institutionalism is that the rules-based order runs over the top of stable power structures created by power balancing. You can see from the history of the League of Nations how rules mean nothing in an unstable asymmetric system.

[@udhayakumarMN]

American will choose (lose- lose) situation then a (win-win) situation....

[@Christian___]

@@udhayakumarMN We're having the discussion in the video precisely because US policy for a generation has been based on a win-win approach. The concern today is that, while western markets have been almost completely open to Chinese, the Chinese have not reciprocated. Further, Chinese innovators can rely on Western authorities to protect their IP rights, but western innovators know that as soon as they contract manufacturers in China, their IP will be stolen. The current situation is lose for the West and win for China--it's not sustainable, especially with China's more aggressive foreign policy under president Xi.

[@thefourthrabbit9516]

@@Christian___ I completely agree that stable power balancing within a polity is necessary for a rule of law. This is the case in most Western democracies and this is something that is unfortunately absent in China's politics and political philosophy (this would cause periodical troubles within our society, but it is mainly our problem to worry about). But balance at the between-state level is entirely different. Balance of power in a divided world is actually dangerous because it only postpones wars that are potentially far more devastating than wars between unequal powers as both sides will try to win at all costs. In a sense, today's Ukraine is just the lastest victim of this "balance of power" game, which Russia used to its advantage in the past 20 years.

[@jdg7327]

Breathing the air of "Superiority" is the downfall of every empires.

[@2841guilherme]

they are literally: OMG we’ll have to speak another language, people won’t listen to our songs anymore and we won’t have a final saying on everything that happens around the world 😭 I mean, I like the USA way more than China but the way they think they are superior and can’t be beaten is funny af 😂

[@seanou2837]

@@2841guilherme why do you like the USA way more than china? are you brainwashed to like america? think about it before answering...you are in your early 20's I bet.

[@lingwengyeap5993]

Sri Lanka's recent foreign debt issue was due to debts owing to the West, not China. The debt exposure to China is only 10%, the balance is owing to the West and Japan.

[@ubermenschen3636]

As China resurrects from the ashes of WW2 and civil war and once again assumes its position as the “Middle Kingdom” the ‘Green eye’ West resorts to demonization of China. According to Martin Jacque, the author of “When China Rules the World,” the center of gravity has already shifted to the East from the West.

[@fauziachoudhry5312]

Correction it's less than 8%. The total breakup - Blackrock 23%, IMF 13% and China < 8%. Its not just West. Its private hedge funds who are responsible. They are doing this not just internationally but even within US. The idea is to gobble up assets dirt cheap and keep people in debt forever.

[@davidlim5]

Stop misleading the world. Enough of fake news & lies ya.

[@fauziachoudhry5312]

Actually they owe China 8%. 23% is owed to Black rock and 13% to IMF. None to Japan.

[@utuber88018]

China is different. China never invaded, interfered, bombed, or colonized any country in its history. In fact, China was a tragic victim of foreign barbarians for centuries and suffered tragedies after tragedies in the aftermaths, and never wish it upon even its enemies. What was the Great Wall for? For millenniums even when China was the sole super-power it only seek friendly relationships, harmony, prosperity and trade.

[@davidroberts6108]

Hello. Um, Tibet would like to have a word.

[@utuber88018]

@@davidroberts6108 Word from 6.7 million Tibetans enjoying the best period of their life in its history in China or tiny, tiny fraction or to be precise, traitors, who were paid handsomely by the jealous West to smear China? No rocket science!

[@beyondrecall9446]

@@davidroberts6108 Tibet is fascinating... Been to Tibet last year..

[@sepam82]

@@davidroberts6108 Don't know how well you know the facts. Lots have been from the west and the unhappy antagonists e.g Falungong and Epoch Times funded by USA

[@dimascennel2075]

​@@davidroberts6108 hello., texas also wants to talk

[@dordorfromhk-hj5vo]

The military expenditure of China is only 1/3 of US. China invests in infrastructure and business to gain monetary return and influence, while US overborrows to waste money in military. Should US reduce its military expenditure and spend the money on infrastructure and its poor people(build more social housing) ? 56% of Americans can't cover a $1,000 emergency expense with savings!! Reduce military expense can reduce the debt burden of the government. Can't just print money!

[@dnotleythere]

Very true. China builds bridges while the US builds bases and promotes endless wars. China encourages trade and peace through diplomacy in the Middle East and the Global South. China and Russia does not preach to them hypocritically or bully them as the US has or judge them. They do not sanction or weaponize their currency and commerce. China and Russia have convinced most of the planet that Ukraine is a proxy war for corrupt Western elites involved in the military industrial complex and it is time to detach from the western dollar. You see that in Brazil, India, Africa and the Middle East.

[@danhtran6401]

Is that why Chinese citizens can't withdraw money from their banks?

[@garysetiadi366]

Can and will keep on printing money!

[@danhtran6401]

@@garysetiadi366 they complain when the dollar is too strong, then when we print money to weaken its value, they cry like a little B... 😂, After a while, one would think they're just complainers.

[@andrewwotherspoona5722]

@@danhtran6401 This is all good until it isn't. Sooner or later the world will ditch the dollar...it is actively working on its demise. Living standards in the US will collapse just like the British did when the pound lost 25% of its value overnight. Once this happens America will undergo a massive cost cutting exercise...beginning with its overseas military.

[@colinlee9678]

The bulk of the Australian population does not perceive any evidence of any external threat to Australia , only the politicians keep perceiving huge fictitious external theats! Australia has fought as many wars as the US ever since the end of WW2 , such as in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan , etc. ! The only obvious question that needs to be asked and answered is which, if any, of these countries had ever threatened and tried to militarily attack, invade and occupy Australia and the US to justify Australia and the US to militarily attack, invade and occupy these countries and killed without any justification , many thousands and thousands of their citizens? Such brutal and wanton homocides of their innocent citizens are nothing short of horrific war crimes! The only country that had deliberately threatened, militarily attacked, invaded and occupied Australia and the US territory was Japan who is ironically embraced as the best Asian friend , despite its horrific war crimes against the citizens of Australia and the US!

[@nudisco7882]

Australian population definitely felt the economic threat of China trying to buy out Australian companies, real estate assets, natural resources on unfavorable teems.

[@colinlee9678]

@@nudisco7882 Economic threat is not a military threat and that distinction needs to be made! There is factually and truthfully no perceived military threat from any country to Australia , unless of course , Australia allows its US bases on Australian territiory to to used to launch attacks on the countries! against which the US govt wants to go to war!

[@mandrews1245]

@@nudisco7882 -- China does not believe in military war where innocent lives are taken. But it will challenge any country economically. Therefore, AU should be creating economic partners in their region, not across the Pacific where they have an "America First" policy.

[@nudisco7882]

@@mandrews1245 you might want to check with India on that. Do your homework

[@bessiebassey-vp4nb]

Australians are just a puppet and together with Britain they jumped when America says jump. Their history has alot to do with their mentality shameful.

[@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102]

The best way to understand how someone thinks (ie: The Chinese) is to ask them. The Chinese have such a long written history that they are able to compare today's challenges to similar events that have happened hundreds of years in the past. So studying and understanding Chinese history is key here.

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

The loss of supremacy to China is inevitable, primarily because they are… better people. They are better educated, they work harder, they are more tenacious. Also, China today has way better infrastructure than the US, way better supply and distribution chains. All this will translate into military superiority in due course too.

[@sew_gal7340]

All you have to do is look at a walking video of chinas mega cities to see the level of futuristic technology they have...just the fact that their health system is better than ours is already a big red sign that something is wrong here in the US

[@mrmalcolmification]

That's the dumbest un thought out thing I've ever heard

[@BaronTaiwanese111]

No, they don’t. Please don’t become china’s propaganda machine here

[@cringelord7542]

Respectfully disagree. Although I do think that the american led alliance will lose out relatively compared to the rest of the world. But that‘s more so because of india, ASEAN countries and potentially africa. The way things are going right now I have a hard time believing china will surpass the gdp if the US. Ofc china may inplement reforms to fix their structural issues like debt and money supply spiraling out of control, total factor productivity that has collapsed in the 2010s and their demographic issues. India has a shot at overcoming the US in the next half century. I‘m very optimistic about india.

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

@@cringelord7542 China has surpassed the US in GDP PPP already. China's is $33.015 trillion, ours (the US) is $26.855 trillion. This difference will inevitably grow to double-in favour of China-within a decade.

[@louistan7560]

Why the need for supremacy instead of peaceful coexistence and cooperation?

[@khubza8999]

ABSOLUTELY!!! Playing with 19th century MINDSET

[@gunsumwong3948]

This is the sickness of the US. The simple answer is the west, unlike China, has no morality! They do not see anything wrong to invade a foreign land, exterminate the indigenous natives, take over it as another country, give up their original culture, identity and root. China assumed the west had morality and nearly being colonised. Now China has learned the lesson, has the military modernised to defend itself and is now being accused taking away the US supremacy! when the US military budget annually bigger than the next 9 to 10 countries put together. So don't don't be fooled by the speakers of this video.

[@annabellelee4535]

We, the US, has to force other countries to do cross border trading in approved Western currency. It makes trade much more expensive but it floats the US, UK, and EU economies. It's the only way we can print money without hyperinflation. That is why we have the US proxy war in the Ukraine, trying to reestablish supremacy and control over the Eastern Hemisphere. Our colonies have revolted.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

Because America doesn't like sharing power. What it says, goes.... until now.

[@annabellelee4535]

@@sleepyjoe4529 Yes, and the US isn't handling the fall from world domination very well.

[@ruggeddiscipline6026]

The arrogance of the Anglo-Saxons is incredible

[@karimwylde2987]

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[@khubza8999]

Not only ANGLO-SAXONS, but their FORMER COLONIES. Amazing imperial self-congratulatory arrogance on display.

[@charmainewong6087]

It never fails that I want to puke whenever BBC comes to view. Shitloads of Arrogance and Propaganda.

[@wondererasl]

You just nailed it Bro🎉

[@annabellelee4535]

@BrianT The US is a third world country with Canada following at our heels. We have some of the highest homeless rates in the world.

[@yaoypl]

Empires rise and fall, and the US Empire is no exception. No doubt, the US is in decline. Like the collapse of the Soviet Union under its own weight, the United States' problems are also self-inflicted wounds. The US spends $800 billion on the military annually which is larger than the next 10 countries combined while more than 50% of Americans have less than $1,000 in savings and the US government amassed $31 trillion in debt. The US has overreached with 800 military bases around the world. The US foreign policy of interfering in other countries affairs has only resulted in debacle after debacle...the US has fought many wars since the end of WW2 but has nothing to show for it. If the US warmongers are thinking of going to war with Russia and China and at the same time, they are out of their minds! The world has changed, a conventional war (goes nuclear we all die) with China and Russia will not save the US Empire and it will end the US hegemony even faster.

[@nudisco7882]

​@BrianT It wouldn't be better for the West if the US empire ended. US exports it's security blanket to the entire West. When they stop, the decline that's already happening in the West will accelerate. Europe would go back into constant warfare.

[@Christian___]

The same people who say that the US cannot possibly maintain its pre-eminence indefinitely seem to believe in infinite economic growth for the Chinese Communists...

[@DionisoBaco.]

@badofi Or maybe states like California might want to secede from the US and proclaim independence. This can happen.

[@PeteHagen-sm4tn]

There's one thing your post misses. If the US is going down it will take China and Russia with it.

[@JT-cm9di]

​@badofi why US is panic? because they so called elite well aware that the end of the supremacy means they no longer have any power to sustaince the stability of their country, no more way to hide the real inner threat & corruptions, no more outer enemy to blame to divert and their own people will see what a failure their country really is. Imagine what their citizen will do to the goverment, and they all have 🔫 👀

[@jojoeverycat7726]

Listening to two dinosaurus talked about western superiority makes a great morning fun day!

[@nopt1118]

Çouldn't agree more; self- assuring monstrosity.

[@sabejreid2072]

Fool I'd rather have wise men than sicko young guns / traitors - Trudeau, Macron, Newsom, Albo. Get Real Dude 🇺🇸🇦🇺🇺🇸🇦🇺🇺🇸🇦🇺

[@garybusey7625]

Mead looks flushed with a combination of frustration, fear, & cheap American whisky. He forgets that Taiwan is part of China.

[@petergreen5337]

Precisely

[@aihong2971]

Aussies like me believe we should be collaborating with China not America. Let’s get on the right side of history. Do Aussies want to be dumped like Afghanistan. That is a fact.

[@HS-PGA]

Just a friendly reminder it’s called COMMUNIST CHINA . just in case you forgot . 🙈

[@pasofino9583]

@@HS-PGAread up on what the Australian did to the aborigines see if they any better.

[@pasofino9583]

@@BrianT-jj3ei primitive people says the convict dropped on a continent.

[@annabellelee4535]

You don't want to die for the US dollar? The US is disappointed with you.

[@pasofino9583]

@@BrianT-jj3ei those people were free now you them are all slaves.

[@shamoo260]

A big part that you miss is America and China relationship in Africa. America is so occupied in spreading their social decadence they are losing sway in Africa to China, Russia, India and Iran.

[@danhtran6401]

Like China helping Sri Lanka collapse, Russia is doing really well with the war,lol, or Iran smuggling weapons to Russia...are you talking about those three clowns ...

[@wilmeramadoraguilar47]

Due to historical reasons, the US is fully aware their engagement with África is bound to be expensive or futile

[@danhtran6401]

@@wilmeramadoraguilar47 nah, it's not that, US won't start a project if they knew their partners are unreliable nor have the means to cover the debt.

[@crescent4996]

Chinese efforts in Africa have smelled of Neo-colonialism though, so far they mostly just wasted a lot of money there with poor return on investments.

[@JS-ih7lu]

@@crescent4996 China is playing the long game. It’s investing in Africa’s future with short term losses. China wants to build Africa’s middle class so they can afford to buy Chinese manufactured goods. For this Africa needs infrastructure and capital, which China can provide. This is a win-win situation for both China and Africa. Africans know this and are jumping onto the BRI bandwagon with their eyes open.

[@gregwong2132]

America didnt let Ukraine negotiate for peace last year, which is why the conflict is still going on.

[@kye4216]

How can you negotiate while the invader is still burning your homes? If Russia were interested in peace they would leave no?

[@Max-jv4gi]

Another pro-Kremlin expert. Let me rephrase it for you, America didn't sell out Ukraine to Putin last year, which is why the conflict is still going on

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@oscare014]

Here we go again... John and Walter want us to believe that America is saving the planet.... 😂😂😂😂

[@petergreen5337]

Agreed 100%

[@isoboy2125]

And portraying that one country that successfully lifted hundreds of millions out of extreme poverty as dangerous. I guess having less desperate workers to exploit is dangerous for the capitalist class? 🤔

[@didyoumissedmegobareatersk2204]

😂😂😂democracy incoming

[@lamrof]

This is no better than two thugs talking, no less bad.

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@ngatatan2597]

Similar to Ukraine and Russia red lines that were while ignored by the USA, the Taiwan problem will come to the USA ignoring China's red lines with equal impunity as Russia redlines were ignored. Until a couple of US carriers are sunk with thousands of fatalities, the hubris of the USA will go unchecked.

[@OzixiThrill]

Taiwan's real value to China is the microprocessor manufacturing titan that it is. They start a war there, chances are, they can kiss that asset good-bye, ultimately starting a war that they have a very legitimate chance to lose, only to gain nothing in return. And America has a far better tolerance to the Taiwanese microprocessor industry collapsing than China does. In fact, China acting like Russia did with Ukraine could very well cause the brains behind the Taiwanese microprocessor industry to move to the USA, resulting in China giving up the status quo for an infinitely worse position; Should that happen, China almost immediately ceases to be a power on the global scale. In short, the situation with Taiwan is radically different, and military action regarding Taiwan can only put China in a worse position.

[@lorenaledger6547]

Not the world between Ukraine and Russia is been going for over 8 years, and the US provoke the war. Us is the most agresive country in the world

[@JS-ih7lu]

Mead refers to “national security” as the goal of US foreign policy. What does that even mean? Is there a single country in the world with the intent or capability to invade the US mainland? The answer is a resounding NO. Not even close. The Chinese and Russian military are structured for regional conflict. Every other country with a sizeable army is a US ally. It requires foreign military bases to engage in long-distance warfare, the US has 800 military bases and China has 1. So who is the aggressor and who is the defender here? So why does the US NEED global hegemony? This is because the US political and economic system is based on colonial exploitation, not only of Global South countries, but of its own citizens. The US forces the world to trade in the US dollar, so it can buy foreign goods at undervalued prices. It uses its military, regime change and sanctions to overthrow the govt of any country that doesn’t play ball. Despite all of these, the rest of the world is uniting to free themselves from the shackles of US neocolonialism and moving towards a de-dollarised multipolar world. At home, the US has hypnotised its own people with the “American Dream”, so they overlook the fact that they have no affordable access to healthcare or higher education, their infrastructure is crumbling, wages have been stagnant for the past 30 years and 40+ trillion dollars of wealth have been transferred from the bottom 90% to the top 1%. The US political system is ultimately a system of corruption. US elites are afraid that their own people will wake up and see there are better models of governance in the world. Hence the propaganda machine goes into overdrive with nonsense like “national security”.

[@diceman999]

I think your spot on with this assessment

[@mandrews1245]

Absolutely right!

[@jacklouie8096]

The US are using their allies to fund their war by selling weapon to their allies

[@zartic4life]

The huberous of this man is awe inspiring.

[@terryl858]

This man should read a history book he would benefit amazing ly

[@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt]

You assume he can read.........lol

[@ObeyNoLies]

This guy is exactly the personality type that is causing people to turn away from the US as a world leader. Arrogance, narcissism, dismissal, short sightedness.

[@dampergoldenrod4156]

@@ObeyNoLies creepy zionist ghoul is what this freakture is

[@georgekostaras]

7:40 it's important to mention that after the cold war, the USA military budget blew up. It never once got cut. And the number of foreign military interventions by the USA also went up.

[@mandrews1245]

Because the US only knows how to dominate. It does not know how to negotiate. It perceives they must be the only hegemony in the world. They planned the Ukraine/Russia attack thinking Russia was weak. Admitted they had no intention of honouring the Minsk Agreements while for 8 years, they built up Ukraine military. They also did not understand the number of Russian allies. Soon they will blame Zelensky for the loss and Ukraine will be required to surrender.

[@astroganov]

This guy just really doesn't know what he is talking about

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@UpperZenith]

Speaking with some old colleague back in 2018, I told my colleagues then that the story of America will be first of a kind in all of history, denoted as a historic decline based solely on the fact of greed and turning over the very industrial prowess that made us magnificently powerful to China, and losing our superpower status to them. Not defeated by war, but defeated by our own loose standards and unquenchable greed to offshore.

[@mandrews1245]

Absolutely right!

[@haroldong4616]

US copied wat Britain did. Now she (Britain) couldn't even built a proper aircraft carrier.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

That’s because US government serves the Capitalist oligarchs, they don’t care if jobs are outsourced. Than later the government deflected their sold out to corporation and BLAMED CHINA for ‘stealing’ Americans job, and dumbed down Americans believed that BS scapegoating. China didn’t put a gun America’s head to ‘force’ anyone to move their business to China, it’s all done with legal trade agreements. Now the corporations just need to hire lobbyists and politicians to protect them from being targeted, so the easier thing is to blame a foreign country who can defend itself from US dominant international media narrative, if all medias tell the public same lies, the public would believe they ‘must be true’. This is how deeply interconnected US imperial mechanism works.

[@MrMSalexanderMK]

The rest of the world wants equality for all not. Excluding the USA

[@user-ju1qd3ok2g]

China has no future. Just like the Soviet Union it will have disappeared in 2 years - 8 years. China has begun an economic and demographic collapse. China thus has no future. 😊 The population is approx. 900 millions ( not 1.4 billion) the real GDP is 40% - 60% lower than the official Stats.

[@user__100]

Britain took $45 Trillion from India over 200 years of rule

[@gunsumwong3948]

Let's hope the Hindu in Downing Street finally does something for India.

[@wondererasl]

Yes, concrete fact.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

skill issue

[@sleepyjoe4529]

@BrianT India was never under the Chinese tribute system so why bring that up.

[@mandrews1245]

@@BrianT-jj3ei My God do you not know that Britian enslaved and killed more than 144 million Indians? They still haven't returned the jewels they took. They left it with a British approved Raj...

[@verymarrano]

Superiority is what he just keeps saying and thinking, yeah that attitude is what eventually is gonna bring you down

[@gunsumwong3948]

Don't worry, the supremacy of owning $31.4 trillion national debt will never be lost or taken away by China or any nation in the world!

[@agoodchow]

The guest speaker does not believe in multi-polarity and Global South. Keep on saying how isolated China is, How isolated Russia is.

[@chaitanyakada1341]

He won’t speak about a multi polar world because he LOVES his “ overwhelming superiority”

[@mengsiongkheng113]

India, often cited as the next China. I think India needs to sort out various internal and domestic issues before one can seriously consider them as the next China. china has far higher GDP growth and for many years at the early stage of opening up. 1. Corruption - this was a major issue in China and Xi has to actively purge the tigers and flies of corruption. He was accused of using this as a tool to remove his competitor. It was not easy as corruption is widespread and seen as part of a Chinese culture over thousand of years. 2. Protection of domestic industries. This is endemic in India. Hiw often have you seen a successful foreign companies. India is littered with failed foreign investments. The local state will ignore any country wide direction. 3. Education - both general and STEM graduates. China is far ahead even at similar stage of development. 4. Women - equal opportunity and treatment of women in general. You cant ignore almost half of your population. 5. Discrimination / Caste system - liberate your people. 6. Hardwork - more work and less talk. You will know what i am talking about if you have worked in China. China speed is frightening. 7. Intelligence - dont know anything can be done with this. Go google IQ by country and see for yourself.

[@seowlingwee4693]

India can't be the next China, such horribly messy country.

[@xena6894]

​@roro Agree ! I just wish India would resolve its issues with China. I hope they (India) sees very well that the US is trying to drive a wedge between them in order to devide andconquer

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Chinese has much more DISCIPLINE and GOAL oriented, and motivated and driven by their pride for their long culture and long history, and their LOVE for their LAND and ANCESTRY, they are deep rooted civilization that bond them strongly.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Very well said! 👍👍👍

[@slc801]

@roro cooperate together they will be unstoppable !!

[@inuwooddog3027]

I really do not agree on the part of the US reduced its military spending after WW2.

[@joey3291]

He spoke for the military companies, just watch Fox news, their US politiciant guests are still crying for more military spends everyday...3 times that of China's apparently isn't enough, really ridiculous

[@Killane10]

Thanks for the interesting conversation. We are moving into a multipolar world. All need to down weapons, high morals, hatred and ego to start a dialogue about how we can live together peacefully on this tiny spaceship.

[@goranmiljus2664]

The problem is, war is VERY profitable for some individuals, and very often those individuals have a grip on warring governments.

[@robertholland7558]

@@goranmiljus2664maybe so but those seeking power and control remain a tiny minority! The general population do hold the absolute power, if only they realised such, and stop subscribing to the devising tactics of the above mentioned minority.

[@petergreen5337]

Precisely

[@havencat9337]

mentality needs to change and accept that a country with 5X population has the right to be overall producing more GDP. This is something natural but people in US cant accept.

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@andrewbaldwin4454]

Near the end of the interview Mead makes the extraordinary assertion that India, now the most populous country on earth, has a GDP only 17% as large as China’s. This is a number consistent with the IMF’s estimates for nominal GDPs by countries in 2022. In fact, India’s GDP, based on IMF projections for GDP on a purchasing power parity (PPP) basis for 2023, is 39.5% of China’s, or more than double what Meade has said it is. This is really not a contentious subject. The most recent international System of National Accounts manual, dating from 2009, in its section on international comparisons, starts by briefly discussing nominal GDP estimates adjusted to a common currency, pointing to their obvious inadequacies, before switching to the far superior GDP on a PPP basis estimates. It is endorsed not only by the UN, but also by the IMF, the World Bank, the OECD and the European Commission. Meade is not an economist or a statistician, so we should assume that he is genuinely clueless about the proper way to measure economies. It hardly justifies, but partly explains, his neo-con warmonger views on appropriate US foreign policy. In his world, China still has a smaller economy than America’s, although in fact, it has a larger GDP than the US, Mexico and Canada combined. In his world, Russia has the 12th largest economy in the world, when in fact it has the world’s 6th largest economy. (Condoleezza Rice, the former US Secretary of State, and alleged Russia expert, has actually opined that Russia may have the 12th or the 15th largest economy in the world. I am a Canadian, living in the country that actually has the 15th largest economy in the world. It baffles me where that ranking comes from. People who make their living as experts in a particular country generally talk up its importance rather than talking it down. But I digress.) Richard Connolly has noted that Russian military spending never rises above 14% of America’s from 2005 to 2018, while if one converts to necessarily crude PPP estimates, Russian military spending rises to as high as 35% of America’s, in 2016. Meade obviously lives in a world where he thinks Russian military spending is less than half of what it actually is. If we haven’t bullied the Russians into accepting American hegemony, let’s just bully them a little harder. Meade is wrong in thinking that 2014 was the hinge year in international relations since the Cold War ended. The hinge year was 1999 when unindicted war criminal Bill Clinton launched a war of aggression against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, a war that ended with the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from the Serbian province of Kosovo, and led to the breakup of the FRY into three states: Kosovo, Montenegro and Serbia. This led directly to a previously obscure Kremlin apparatchik named Vladimir Putin becoming president of Russia. Putin was, in a sense, an American creation.

[@bazs7669]

Great post thank you

[@petergreen5337]

Well said and well OBSERVED. Thank you for the clarifications.

[@randycrownover5580]

1999 was a an important date but I would argue 12-26-91 is more important for the events we are witnessing today. And before that, the fall of the Berlin Wall.

[@sizif717]

Well, you pointed that out - it is the difference between the nominal GDP and PPP GDP. It is obvious that they refer to the nominal one - where still the US is number one and Russia is 12th and not 6th.

[@andrewbaldwin4454]

@@sizif717 Kiril, you miss my point, although I think I made it clearly enough: all the major international institutions that matter prefer GDP on a PPP basis to nominal GDP for ranking the economies of countries. If nominal GDP estimates were better, no-one would bother calculating GDP on a PPP basis estimates, because they are costly and time consuming to calculate. It is especially silly to do so in a case like Meade's, where he is trying to get a feel for India's fitness to be an American ally, and its military potential is an issue. There is a strong labour component in military spending and any comparison of the labour component of military spending for China and India based on nominal GDP estimates adjusted to a common currency (by convention, American dollars) is going to exaggerate the spending of the higher-income country, China. This is hardly a theoretical construct. It is exactly what Richard Connolly found in his comparisons of military spending among countries: "The most notable difference between using market exchange rates and PPP exchange rates is seen in the position of India, which in 2018 was comfortably the third largest military spender in the world ($250 billion)." Russia doesn't look like the 12th largest country in the world when it is fighting a war against Ukraine, even though Ukraine is supported by NATO, because it isn't the 12th largest country in the world.

[@maxdc988]

The fact that the world is in chaos and beset with conflicts is because people nowadays have forgotten what are virtue and sin, hence they have no self-discipline, self-control or self-restraint. They don't distinguish between humane and inhumane. And do things without regard to the consequences. They pursue money and power as if those things can last, but somehow they themselves cannot last.

[@madogsioux5636]

Very simply, their Creator in heaven has created everything for them, the chosen race, so why would they need self-discipline or morals?

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@gareafu5622]

China had been through many many great power competitions in our history, whereas Americans only with Soviet Union. We see the competition in a very different perspective, most distinctively is that we do not believe that competition with great power which will inevitably lead to over extension of power will only weaken your position as a great power, sooner or later. Bear this in mind would u understand the meaning of China’ approach of living in harmony.

[@Christian___]

China owes its existence to the US and its allies defeating the Japanese; the Chinese would have struggled to defeat the Japanese on their own, they may have failed altogether. The whole American led post-war order is focused around the UN and living in harmony. In order to do that, states need to conform to expected norms and behaviours. In its history, the US has competed with many great powers--most obviously against the British Empire for its independence, but also against Spain and the Ottoman Empire.

[@gareafu5622]

@@Christian___ oh existence how arrogant you ? To say owe its existence…….. US never deployed any troop in China, and Japan never was able to occupy China even when China is at its weakest point, China may benefit from US fighting Japan in the pacific, while obviously US also benefited from China for pulling JAPAN main power or at least a large proportion of their military in China mainland which made Japan not able to focus all its might on fighting America after attacking the pearl harbour, which would remind you that US went into war with Japan for Japan’s attack on US.

[@Ballardian]

​@@Christian___ "The whole American led post war order is focused around the UN and living in harmony" Ha ha ha ha, what an absurd fairy tale. First off, the US has often gone against or ignored UN based international law (see it's sanction policy towards Cuba, which is only supported by one other country). They only side with international law when it suits them. Secondly, the US has often violated the sovereignty of other countries, often via sending the CIA in to create topple leaders (including democratically elected ones). The US led 'harmony' has often been acheived through force, and with a huge cost of lives.

[@beyondrecall9446]

​@@Christian___ UN and living in hrmony... aham... i can't believe that peopke really have these deranged thoughts

[@Christian___]

@@beyondrecall9446 I was just putting it in the words used by the original poster. Do you think that the PRC has adopted the approach of living in harmony?

[@姜磊-n5h]

So the line is really drawn between the the races and colors of skin. I do appreciate the occasional honesty amongst the instinctive lying. Reminds me of the "blond hair and white skin" a year ago. Here let me do some more translation our commitment to the world = we will bomb whomever not submit to us and make an example so that no one else dares to defy balance of power = trick people everywhere to hate and fear each other and go to war with each other so that we can be more important that we really are human rights democracy and freedom = whoever controlled by us and falls into the line of empire Why should any country have "supremacy" in this world? Unless of course, the order is based on the rules made by the one with the biggest stick. Oops, another truth splipped.

[@davidoffice9922]

All empires end this is just the way.

[@mijmijrm]

thinking within the US Empire is full to the brim with concerns about "superiority" and "domination" - which makes it important it be brought back into reality and eat humble pie.

[@bazs7669]

Well said, America is just another country and has no moral or real superiority over anyone else.

[@isoboy2125]

The mainstream media has peddled so many lies for decades that our ruling elites in the West have effectively disengaged from reality. 😥

[@DestinyAwaits19]

@@bazs7669 Is that why you're using an American- made invention like the internet? Or eating at MacDolands? Or drinking Coca Cola? America dominates. Accept it. Loser.

[@patricknavas3532]

Lame commentaries. He talks realistically and eloquently about the prospect of nuclear war and then goes on to advocate a policy (confronting China over Taiwan) that dramatically increases the likelihood of nuclear war. A war with China is unnecessary (China is not about to invade or attack Nebraska) and would be totally catastrophic. China will only use military force against Taiwan if the US continues to double-down on antagonizing China via Taiwan. The answer, if you sincerely don’t want war, is to stop antagonizing China. The interviewer also engages in shameless projection. It is the US that wants, and that ruthlessly pursues, global dominance, not China. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@havencat9337]

when India will rise they will def want a piece of action and US wont like that.

[@gandhi9936]

Mr Mead is wrong about Putin’s initial objectives for the SMO. Putin, imho, hoped to reach an agreement with NATO, hence the Istanbul discussions in March last year, which were scuppered by America.

[@cathysmusic4919]

This conversation is geared towards the uninformed, America has never ignored the outside world, American foreign policy is as aggressive as ever with wars every where, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Sudan, Asia... Most wars tiday are American driven and funded...so Americans people are the most philanthropic in the wold but American foreign policy is aggressive and brutal so they make no friends just his stage regimes. Meanwhile at home the middle class is nearly decimated by bad very selfish policies... That's the sad part, our children's future looks bleak with student debt and inflation. Sad very sad..

[@mz4420]

He is the expert sponsored by the US military complex industry.

[@s.c8410]

US politician focus all their attention on maintaining their power instead of solving proplem the society needed. The US national interest now a day changed to the interest of big defense complex, not the interest of general public.

[@hotbird3]

The problem with being at the top is that the only way forward is down .

[@charleschen1408]

China has enormous trade surpluses every year. Before BRI, China put surpluses in US bonds for a few % yield. After BRI, China put surpluses in BRI partners. I guess is that BRI overall yields should be no less than US bond yields. In addition to China’s overcapacity in infrastructure buildings. If China can find a customer in needs, it is a really a win-win arrangement.

[@Erin-dw9vx]

Wow, you really know, I want to get to know you, I'm coming to China

[@繁星-j6s]

🇨🇳美国国债并不是我们愿意或有预谋想购买的，是当时你们的布什总统、奥巴马总统和现在的拜登总统强制要求中国购买的！

[@charleschen1408]

@@Erin-dw9vx I went to grade school in Shanghai, middle school in Taiwan and college and graduate schools in the US. Want the US and China to be friends.

[@havencat9337]

@@charleschen1408 talk to the US, they can't accept China to do well. think about that and how can you change this mentality for the sake of the peace

[@klchai7884]

The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher. The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU

[@timetraveller885]

China is Spending Trillions of Yuan on Infrasture, High Tech, Education, BRI, SCO, BRICS, RCEP, all in the name of PROGRESS, for GREATER FUTURE MONETARY RETURNS!!!

[@danhtran6401]

Is that why they are trillions in debt?

[@HS-PGA]

Friendly reminder it’s called COMMUNIST CHINA

[@jarednovel]

Context is often ignored.. A decade ago North Korea did not have capable nuclear weapons and now they do..When the US ruled the waves China was still a poor developing country..Things have now changed forever

[@katprowler6805]

Don't forget that when China ruled the waves, America did not even exist.

[@nudisco7882]

​@@katprowler6805 No doubt

[@nudisco7882]

US still rules the waves

[@kshen7485]

Walter’s colonial mindset showed up here.

[@dmitrye3212]

China may not be self sufficient in energy. But Russia and Kazakhstan can supply oil and natural gas through pipelines and via railways. Even Iran can supply it’s oil through Caspian Sea and Russia. The US has no means to blockade these routs.

[@jinsoonchin5205]

America is famous of bombing them.

[@Shubham89453]

Future is solar

[@thomaslee2783]

A redneck / hillbilly view of the world !!! Learn a lot from these two's conversation !!!!

[@paddioche]

The decline of America All points to one place, ukraine. soros/davos

[@olli-anteropetterharju158]

But, that wasn`t "one place". Be more specific.

[@mimiginkgo]

wumao

[@mandelbro777]

As long as the MIC can charge $20,000 for a hammer and $100,000 for a toilet seat, they're going to need a warzone somewhere from which to stamp the invoice. Funny how as soon as Afghanistan winds down, there is NATO embedding itself in yet another geopolitically significant region rallying a puppet leadership placed in 2014 during a Washington initiated color revolution, and baiting this puppet to 'join NATO', knowing well the ramifications of this for Moscow.

[@sylviam6535]

The decline runs far deeper than that.

[@mimiginkgo]

@@sylviam6535 then comment on China and Russia’s status if you dare

[@tonysu8860]

The only people who believe in the perspectives of this video are those that watch and read Murdoch journalism. Full of questionable facts, superficial if not disputable and really bad analysis. Enough things that are reported by Murdoch "news" to make the opinions believable but unsupportable for anyone who actually does a bit of research. Trades of fears and feelings of inferiority and lack of understanding of the world we live in when with a modicum of courage supplanted by really digging out the facts should not have trouble understanding the world we live in and lessen the need to have the world interpreted by people who might not really know what they'e talking about, either.

[@pemtinify]

Most news media in Oz present the basic facts in reportage news. It is how they curate the facts in terms of context and disclosure that makes the difference. The astute and informed observer can discern this bias easily. In regard to editorials and opinions pieces, there is the clear divide in Left and Right thinking or the two views of what is happening and what has value. I do not see much difference in the substance of respective opinions between the "Murdoch press" and the Left-orientated press: they are preaching to two different congregations who buy in as the spin appeals to their prejudices.

[@mandrews1245]

This is same news paper and British system which believed Johnny Depp was the violent abuser in the relationship...

[@ortforshort7652]

There's a fundamental difference, at least so far, between the US "supremacy" and the Chinese "supremacy" US supremacy stems out of the old European colonial model of interfacing with the global southl. It's based on domination, exploitation and militarism. Chinese supremacy stems out of it's need for more trade with the global south since the west manufacturers have started leaving China in droves over the past decade due to higher taxes and higher wages and, now, due to supply chain disruptions caused by covid. The global south is much more engaged with China and much more interested in dealing with China because of the nature of the relationship. With China it's more of a peer relationship albeit that China is bigger and stronger. With the US it's more of a vassal to master relationship. The loss of US supremacy is because the global south is running towards China as fast as they can and away from the US as fast as they can (altho' they know they have to watch themselves because of potential repurcussions). The only way for the US and Europe to get back in the ballgame is to start treating the global south the way China does - as trading partners not pseudo-colonies. But, realistically, what's the chance of that happening? A more likely result is that the US will try to act militarily and economically with sanctions. A bad idea, but it's hard for a leopard to change it's spots.

[@chaitanyakada1341]

Global south is not rushing towards China.. Look around and you will see…

[@phillipchan6044]

He seems to be living in a twisted parallel reality

[@madogsioux5636]

For fifty years the only thing about the world that Americans are interested in is: How much is it worth in US dollars?

[@0711mama]

Most of our problems today are self-made.

[@Boudi-ca]

People are self sabotaging bc they can’t deal with having everything at their feet.

[@Nat_Ryder]

The greatest, only and current threat to Australia is political and economic isolation. "Friends" are geographically far away while neighbors are antangonised and despised and belittled because of their trade with China. However Australia cannot survive if it hopes to interact and trade only with their "Friends" Correction: Australia has a nearby "friend" Singapore, let's hope Singapore can "save" Australia.

[@chadjcrase]

Really good comment Nat. In fact though, I think many Asian countries are turning away from China regardless of ties to the West, such as Vietnam and maybe even Indonesia. That is driven by self-interest only, perhaps, but the World is a dynamic place.

[@kartalpencesi2000]

Although we are a NATO country, we Turks wholeheartedly support the Republic of China. America, which invaded weak countries under the name of democracy and persecuted for years, will take a good lesson from the Pacific and will be referred to as the strong country of the past like England.

[@JS-ih7lu]

I think you mean “People’s Republic of China”. The “Republic of China” fled mainland China in 1949 when they lost the civil war and now resides in Taiwan 😂

[@kartalpencesi2000]

@@JS-ih7lu Whatever you understand, don't get too caught up in the details. you know what i mean, or i would say taiwan, right?

[@JS-ih7lu]

@@kartalpencesi2000 If you made the effort to put “Republic” in front of China, you should at least refer to the right “Republic”, or drop the “Republic” altogether and just call it “China” 😂

[@tonivang123]

When the rules of law is decaying and corruptions is everywhere in society, the empire is slowly in decline.

[@Oldienow]

Fast in decline

[@maync1]

John, you are wrong. The sanctions did nothing. Russia is doing well, business is up and they are laughing. Instead, the way things went, they imposed a kind of bleeding on the Europeans, economic attrition. Great conversation and Walter made the right points. Much impressed. Thank you.

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

People everywhere get the government that they deserve. The US is no different, which is a real problem, when the US is so powerful.

[@spartancrown]

Here’s the biggest concern about China versus the U.S. in a Cold War turns hot scenario that never existed under the Soviet threat. Economic power. The Soviets never exceeded 44% the size of the US economy. China isn’t far behind and unless you’re willing to build more shipyards and strike Chinese mainland targets they’re capable of out producing us in the short term certainly and potentially the long term if they can get around sanctions and blockades.

[@2841guilherme]

correct but let’s take something else in regard China is not Russia in economic terms, you can’t severely sanction it without being severely injured in your economy Even some countries in EU have been maintaining or even strengthening relations with China, like France Germany might do the same Even the BRICS have a BIG share in the world’s food support, Brazil, India, China and even Russia are all top 10 in most categories when it comes to food production

[@robertgittings8662]

*Nomial GDP subjects to currency pricing and inflation - high inflation usually associated with inflated nomial GDP*

[@user__100]

Britain killed 4 million Indians in Bengal in 1943 by imposing a famine

[@user__100]

@BrianT Literacy rate in India was 11% at the time of independence. You want to defend that too?

[@sleepyjoe4529]

@BrianT whataboutism

[@JK-ix8zi]

From year 0 to 1800, the world was not Western in its overall disposition and economic heft. We are reverting to that world once again.

[@good2freelance1]

Sort of one sided and the US empire is never at fault. All the horrific war crimes done by the US and its ''allies'' are ignored here.

[@tangyokechoon9709]

America having gained their supremacy through militarism over the world and especially by economic growth that had probably left the rest of the world under economic growth for a couple of hundred years. However,China having gained tremendous knowledge in economic growth by industrialisation and technology has been able to emerge as a challenger to America. 48:56

[@colinlee9678]

It is a no brianer that Russia is the winner of this Ukraine war from day one , as it could have finished this war on day one by deploying its weapons of mass destruction but it showed its utmost restraint by not deploying them and instead go for a war of longer attrition!

[@mandrews1245]

Russia only increased its weapon power each time US/UK/EU increased its supply of weapons to Ukraine. After the clumbsy attempted take out of Putin, Russia has unleashed its more advanced weapons. Also striking in several cities at the same time across Ukraine. One missile killed more than 100 Ukraine and NATO commanders. Everyone is silent about this. The 6 bloggers who independently had video of the strike, have been arrested. Luckily for us, they all posted it on social media before their arrest. So NATO cannot denying it took place... just outside Kiev. Will be interesting know how many different country commanders were in that bunker? Doing training???

[@pouyabahrami7669]

During the unipolar moment we chose continuous wars instead of continuous investment around the world to improve human life and our own influence. That choice has damaged our brand.

[@sitthapromwasphornsaran5736]

How many wars has the US made with all small nations like Iraq etc., how many innocennt people have died? Now all the karmas are coming home to roost, ain't no escape so on your knees and bow your head !

[@demonslayer1196]

China is a worthy adversary for the US to lose supremacy to. China has shown guts, resilience, wisdom, talent and most of all true leadership enhancing cooperation and world peace. Well played China. Congratulations!

[@phyllisthompson4207]

China has learned a very valuable, and important lesson. It is better to sp😅with honey in its mouth, than vinegar. Africa is not the same as it used to be. China did not bring all its workers from China. Anywhere China do business, they understand that the locals has to be involved, while learning from them.

[@juliecheung5278]

Question to the guest: - I wonder why there were so many foreign ministers and country heads wanting to meet President Qi recently, especially the U.S !!!

[@yongdeng1813]

U mean president Xi..

[@mandrews1245]

I LOVE IT. Xi refused the US from entry into China. He welcomed Macron. But the EU head, he refused Chinese air space to her plane, and she had to reroute and landed 6 hours behind Macron. In addition, no one welcomed her plane. Not even one journalist. She had to go thru the public gates and regular security... Xi doesn't have time for USA. They just want to lecture him about their superiority. He doesn't need US to have economic growth. His allies are South America, Latin America, most African nations, many in Middle East, OPEC and parts of Indo-Pacific. Even Mexico has expressed interest in joining BRICS!

[@JeanGunnhildr-q5t]

Xi not Qi 😂

[@burtonlee22]

Mead is correct re American folly and blindness

[@gunsumwong3948]

It is this kind of people that makes US today!

[@0animalproductworld558]

Someone said with the 2T that the US spent in the Middle East war. They could have built a good network of high speed rails in America with trains

[@Ryan49861]

It's not a shame to lose to China in GDP as China has 4x the people; it's a shame to seek loss-loss competitions in an attempt to stay # 1 .

[@siewkonsum7291]

The US Regime didn't lose any supremacy. The World is evolutionary so that nowadays, the global centre of economic activities is shifting back to Middle kingdom of Asia - where it was before the discovery of America!

[@gunsumwong3948]

Spot on!

[@JS-ih7lu]

The American century is an anomaly of history. The economic and power centre of the world is shifting back to the East where it has been for most of humanity’s history.

[@luljey1]

The arrogance and ignorance of these two guys is incredible.

[@TanChoonHong]

The question I ask is, why can't other countries rise to surpass the US and western allies? They didn't do it by pointing a gun at the West, like what the West did through colonialism, but through thrift and hard work, not mentioning the sacrifices of each generation for the one that follows.

[@vuxulu]

The issue is that the USA can't see how destructive its hegemony has been on the world. The west has not been a good union to further human progress, for every good they have done worse things. We need a multipolar international order.

[@hlim431]

Introspection requires humility & that's not just an American trait --- In the 30 year period when China's GDP went from $0.4 to $14 trillion and lifted 800 million people out of extreme poverty, the US went from $6 to $21 trillion, an almost identical rise in GDP. Only problem the rise almost exclusively went to the top 1% as wealth of American masses stagnated. If you are a US CEO what you are expected to do is out-source to China, Mexico, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam & India. If ANY CEO refuses to do what every other CEO is doing to enhance profits at the expense of working class Americans, he will be replaced with someone willing to sacrifice fellow Americans. John Anderson during the John Howard years had the benefit of 30 YEARS of China... unlike the Norwegians who banked their oil wealth now has a $1.3 TRILLION sovereign wealth fund but Howard & Co gave it back in Tax cuts to buy Howard a 4th term --- so AU was pronounced by the OECD as the most wasteful of Western economies.

[@theinfralink6598]

I have to say the guest is almost completely wrong in trying to identify lessons learned during the post Soviet period. America did not pay less attention to the world. In fact it increased military expenses many folds in an effort to further boost its hegemony. Look how many wars it has fought since 1991. The problem was the opposite. It got overly confident and didn’t pay enough attention to domestic problems particularly economic problems. In contrast China single minded lay focus on economic development of its own

[@alantran1914]

We have done it to ourselves and we only have ourselves to blame!!!!

[@Gemini73883]

If India is as the Prof says and is in the same situation or better (than China), then India will be in the cross-hairs too! Truth be told, America will take aim at whoever comes up in the rear view mirror! If Ozzieland (pardon me, Mr Anderson) came up in said rear view mirror the kangaroo won't be spared! Plaza Accord (Imposition), anyone?

[@jtan4493]

America is a relatively young country with very limited culture to offer the world but American politicians act like they're the centre of the universe

[@phyllisthompson4207]

Hope that they will listen to the voices of reason. The world needs peace p

[@jirik2435]

The US empire is over. Sic transit gloria mundi.

[@wilmeramadoraguilar47]

​@@SN-tv9eb chinese new how to read the times and aplied the maxim, if your opponent is greedy, take advantage of that and enbolden their greediness againts them

[@darrenvanginkel]

Shallow. Get Alexander Mercouris on.

[@sylviam6535]

Yeah. This was just the usual neocon BS.

[@benjaminocampo3359]

I'm so happy I made productive decisions about my finances that changed my life forever,hoping to retire next year... Investment should always be on any creative man's heart for success in life.

[@robertgreg6009]

I agree with you and believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don't know who agrees with me but either way I recommend real estate or crypto and stocks.

[@domenez]

Yeah!! It would be more beneficial and yield more profit if you actually trade on cryptocurrency, I've been trading since the dip, I've made so much profit trading.

[@wilsonrichard440]

I am interested to know more and invest in Crypto please

[@adamdouglas9888]

Well, you are saying the fact. I invested $4,000 with fergus Waylen. and earned $12,000 in 7 working days.

[@raphfelimax2713]

I'm honestly surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of his clients testimony last week in CNBC world news

[@ccarlopiu]

India and Japan can't wait to embrace aukus, given the glorious past they share... they will go where their interests bring them, and if UK and US happen to sink, they will not mourn.

[@samliew6610]

With system from the West, how prosperous is the African & Latin American countries?

[@samliew6610]

@BrianT Appreciate your opinion. Just FYI, I had worked for a Anglo-Saxon/French companies for many years and had also been posted to work in China for several years. I had travelled quite a lot and still doing so, read/follow a variety of independent journalists/Academics' works - Professor Kishore Mahbubani, Pro. Jeffrey Sachs, Robert Wrighrs, Brian Berletic, Chris Hedges, Hussein Askary, Turker Carlson, Don Lemon, Democracy At Work, George Galloway, and many more. I certainly know what I'm talking about.

[@mandrews1245]

@@BrianT-jj3ei -- Pharmaceuticals raw materials are manufactured in China. They are shipped to the West/ EU for packaging. Chinese prefer Chinese medicine. The Chinese population has not ballooned in numbers ... what they have done is age healthy.

[@darwel007]

We are kings of the world here in the West. We should never let any other nation prosper. Our success comes from keeping them down and in poverty!

[@decoloniz_afro]

Well soon..you'll be in that poverty..check the time from now...u might start eating your own children!

[@wendyshoowaiching4161]

Human must accept that they is superiority of levels. So are countries. There is no permanence in a fix state.

[@markusdittrich-rw4mg]

I would welcome if the USA would focus more on itself. Invading Iraq (illegally) and Afghanistan have not helped those countries. Delivering weapons to the rebels in Syria and Ethiopia has not helped either. Bombing Libya has divided the country, so many people are suffering there now. Inviting Ukraine to NATO against the will of the European NATO members has led to the war in the Ukraine. Ukraine in NATO is for Russia like Soviet nuclear missiles on Cuba for the US. It seems it would benefit the world if US focuses on itself, and are there not enough problems in the US ? You have banks failing , and need to raise your debt ceiling all the time. You do not need 800 military bases all over the world. The US is spending 38% of the worldwide military expenses. The US needs to reduce its debts dramatically to maintain a dominant position in the world. These debts make the US vulnerable.

[@yttean98]

The West must look at itself critically and reform both in the fields of politics and how its economy(*) is being run exclusively in the mound of neoliberalism. If not the deterioration politically, economically and worse still culturally will continue in the downward trend into the future. In the end, who suffers, the middle and lower classes, whereas the rich and elite upper classes will remain powerful and enjoy their wealth. * I can mention a few AREAS of reform but you would not agree.

[@morbid747]

No empires lasts forever.