Why Does China Want To Invade Taiwan? | Steve Tsang

[@joseluisaguilaralonzo6374]

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[@vietnguyen4312]

Firstly, just because Taiwan is not legally recognized as a state does not automatically hand sovereignty of the island to the PRC. There are no internationally recognised treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. Also, historically, China has had minimal control over the island of Taiwan, I will explain further below. Now some facts about Taiwan: 1: The island now known as Taiwan was inhabited and ruled by the aborigines for approximately 30,000 years. 2: When the Dutch arrived in 1626 most of the population of Formosa were the Yuanzhumin or Gaoshan people (who have no DNA link back to China) 3: The Qing had minimal control of Taiwan in fact the Qing only managed to rule less than 20% of the island while the aborigines ruled and controlled over 80% of the island. The Qing created a border in 1750 with rocks which was called the Tu Niu Red Line. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure.. 4: Due to the lack of control, the Qing did not declare Formosa a Province of the Qing until 1895 as the Japanese was encroaching on the island. The island was handed to Japan soon after. 5: Over the past 400 years the island has been partially ruled by 5 different governments but it was only the Japanese and ROC who had full control of the entire island. 6: Historically the CCP recognized Formosan independence. In 1936, when the Republic of China (ROC) was China’s government and Taiwan (Formosa) was a Japanese colony, Chairman Mao Zedong offered support to Korea and Formosa if their peoples wished to gain independence from Japan. Mao’s internationalist position suggested that 1) both Korea and Formosa have a right to independence, and 2) this is based on the right to self-determination. Mao did not claim that Taiwan has been an integral part of China. (look up Edgar Snow interview)) 7: The Cairo Declaration 1943 discussed the possibility of handing the island of Taiwan to the ROC. This discussion required a treaty to become official and was never implemented. 8: The PRC constitution was formed in 1949 yet Taiwan was not added to it until 1978. 9: The ROC were granted a caretaker role of Formosa after WW2 but when the ROC escaped to the island it still legally belonged to Japan. 10: When Japan relinquished its sovereignty of Taiwan with The Treaty of San Francisco after the ROC invaded the Japanese island, China was not even invited. The treaty was signed by 49 nations but both the ROC and CCP were NOT present. 11: The One China Policy, Un Resolution 2758 or the Treaty of San Francisco do not declare that Taiwan is a province of China. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. The only legal way that Taiwan can amalgamate with China is if they agree to a treaty ceding their sovereignty. Whether Taiwan is considered a country or not does not automatically grant China with sovereignty of the region. I am happy to provide evidence on any of these points if needed.

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@zed2711]

And similar arguments, based on history, geopolitics, international law and ruling, can and should be apllied to matters concerning South China Sea. All this "distraction" and "vision-ambition" should not be used to negate the fact that China has massive and crippling internal issues and struggling with them.

[@mightymouse9098]

100% spot on. John is wish the geo strategic implications of Taiwan control was more widely understood

[@soma4u289]

And if Taiwan succumbed would Australia be 'looked' after by the U.S or China?

[@Ragerian]

same reason why germany invaded poland in 1939. territorial shame

[@VMorgenthaler-yp6yz]

After Taiwan, will the PRC next lay claim to all the Chinatowns in the USA? They're not legally recognized as states either. And what about large ethically Chinese populations in other countries?

[@biggpicture2930]

I dont think chinatowns have any constitution declaring it is part of china?

[@scottowensbyable]

Older Chinese have explained to me that China expects all persons of Chinese ancestry to give first preference of loyalty to ancient homeland. Taiwan is viewed as an errant, disobedient child. This is hard for someone with a Western mind to accept, but to the Mainland Chinese way of thinking, it's time for Taiwan to come home.

[@scottowensbyable]

I suppose its possible that China could develop a "Pan China" idealogy that includes large populations of Chinese immigrants as an extension of China. China is on a global mission to secure resources.

[@Andy-P]

​@@scottowensbyablecommon destiny of man kind under Chinese leadership

[@Andy-P]

​@@scottowensbyableGlobal Chinese Civilisation Initiative

[@triper02local79]

In all historical evidence (except those written by CCP), the CCP has never ruled Taiwan for any day in history, never. Taiwan has its own independent passport, currency, government, democratically elected president, military, tax system, democratic education, flag, national anthem, and complete medical system. They have everything a country should have, and all of this is completely separate from CCP. Although officials in many countries dare not say loudly that Taiwan is an independent country because of the CCP's suppression, in fact Taiwan still has 12 diplomatic countries and actually recognizes Taiwan as a country. Many countries have also refuted China's distorted 2758 Agreement this year. It is only a matter of time before Taiwan is officially recognized as an independent country by the United Nations. Taiwan's latest poll in 2024 shows that 72.1% of people consider themselves Taiwanese, not Chinese, nor CCP people.

[@Mr2tails]

中華民國就是中國！中華民國有二十三省。三民主義統一中國！台灣民國公民請離開中華民國! The ROC is China. ROC has 23 provinces. The three principles of the people will unite China! Will the citizens of the Republic of Taiwan leave the Republic of China!

[@MrEjidorie]

CCP has no justification to claim Taiwan as an integral part of China.

[@johnmaynardapostol2]

In contemplating the potential incursion of the People's Republic of China (PRC) upon its most substantial island, Taiwan, it is not uncommon to posit that China may undertake an ostensibly harmonious endeavor aimed at dismantling the separatist factions advocating for 'Taiwan independence.' Furthermore, I would assert with conviction that the vehement backing provided by certain American militarists to these aforementioned factions constitutes a significantly detrimental miscalculation.

[@MrEjidorie]

If the United States and other democratic nations adopted appeasement to China in terms of Taiwan`s status, people in the world would lose cnfidence Western-style democracy. US President should not repeat the same mistake as former British Prime Minister Arthur Neville Chamberlain at Munich Conference in 1938.

[@willfiala1859]

China will do what wants and does not have to use western timetable -

[@ditjow6]

Sounds reasonable 🤔 and what is the counter argument 🤔?

[@biggpicture2930]

Taiwan constitution declaring it is part of china makes impossible for any invasion to occur

[@biggpicture2930]

. To change constitution that declare it iapart of china , you probably need 75% but pro independence Taiwanese are only 5%...

[@biggpicture2930]

Is that a good counter argument?

[@humantravesty4603]

Maybe Taiwan should take over mainland China? Taipei could be the capital and run the show rather than Peking (sic). It has become a far better run country (in the same time frame) than what ccp has managed for the mainland….

[@kenreckless2757]

That is more or less exactly what the PRC is afraid of - that their citizens will reject the PRC's communism in favour of Taiwan-style capitalism. As the PRC sees it, this is an existential threat, and they will do basically anything to prevent it.

[@closertothetruth9209]

taiwan manufactures important things for America etc , reason enough.

[@MrBiggerdaddio]

imagine if china invaded russia and helped the usa!?

[@TheMileswin]

America may not support Taiwan but Taiwan could inflict massive damage to China's capital cities using Hsiung Feng III if there was the threat of invasion.

[@袁大陸]

In 1945 Taiwan drawing 11 line around the South China Sea helped by USA warships, now People’s Republic of China protects those lines for Taiwan against Philippine intruding into this sea territory.

[@stephenhunt_author]

Short answer: the same reason the dark Mirror Universe in Star Trek couldn't stand to see the Federation exist - it's a parallel world example of how of a democratic, non-authoritarian, capitalist, cultural-Confucianism, peaceful China would look like today. Never going to let that stand.

[@biggpicture2930]

Best answer Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@tonybennett638]

Why does Australia think Tasmania is part of Australia..

[@vietnguyen4312]

Australian Government has occupied Tasmania for over 200 years whereas no Chinese Government has controlled Taiwan. The Manchurian Qing government controlled 20% of the island at most and Formosa was a declared a Province of the Qing for 10 years. Japan is the first country to conquer Formosa. Go and invade Outer Manchuria and leave Taiwan alone.

[@yt.damian]

Because they voted to join the Australian Federation. They chose to join. And New Zealand chose not to.

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

Has the CCP ever ruled Taiwan ?

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

Why do you bot always use western names ? Are you ashamed ?

[@rais1953]

​@@buildmotosykletist1987 If you look at his channel you can see he's not a bot and he's not Chinese.

[@greatsky8226]

A country doesn't 'invade' its own territory. Learning some basic English can help you express yourself correctly. There is no country named 'Taiwan' in the world. U.S.: Taiwan is a part of China.

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then it is no invasion..,

[@biggpicture2930]

Until taiwan changed its constitution declaring it is not part of china, then there can never be any invasion... To change constitution , you probably need 75% but pro independence Taiwanese, like you are only 5%...

[@maggan82]

Over 60 peoples/languages occupied by the Han-people. Not really a country iń the first place.

[@greatsky8226]

@@biggpicture2930 Taiwan can never be independent from China. Don't forget that The PRC has veto right.

[@biggpicture2930]

@vietnguyen4312 Why waste time and effort concocting up mao's desire and ridiculously try to 'force' such absurdity down others'throats. .. The crux of the matter is Taiwan's independence. Faking up Mao's wish is immaterial and irrelevant to Taiwan's independence.. You enemy is your own Taiwanese people. To change constitution that declare it is part of china, you probably need 75% but pro independence Taiwanese, like you are only 4.5%...