Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 - .223 & .22-250

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

No live stream tonight. Working on the video for Wednesday night.

[@jeffallen3382]

What do you recommend for filling the rear bag with? Also, how full do you fill them?

[@johncashwell1024]

I would like to know the same info. I bought a prefilled bag set and when they arrived...no filling! I bought a "Sand Tube" which is supposed to be used for extra weight in the trunk of a car or truck bed in winter. It wasn't sand it was dried dirt!

[@johncashwell1024]

Some news! I was able to buy New Production Remington Small Rifle Primers at my local D&R Sports. I haven't seen new production components from Remington in a long time.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

​@@jeffallen3382 There are a lot of options but I like the feel of sand. I have a bag of "play sand" from the hardware store. I spread some out on a baking sheet and dry it in the oven on low temp for a while. After it cools, I use a long funnel to add it to the bag. It is a pain in the butt and takes a while to get it packed in there. I usually have to add more sand several times before I'm happy with how full it is.

[@mattchilders3123]

@@jeffallen3382 Git-Lite is the fill I used. Expensive but really good stuff.

[@maxchalice5625]

Had me rolling with the sprinkles😂

[@todddelevan9488]

Agreed was about to comment on that

[@ammoiscurrency5706]

Damn near choked on my lunch. Didn't expect that from Johnny's

[@vinmow]

Thank you so much for showing the bullet when it hits the cardboard again. is visually and informative much better. sorry for my bad google translate

[@waynemayle865]

A early morning video from jrb good way to start your day

[@ryankarrar6107]

I love 15.5 on my service rifle so far! 25.6 grains with a berger 80.5 in lake city brass gets me 2826 fps with SD's under 10 (20" barrel). This load shot sub-half MOA at 300 yards from a sling with a 4.5x scope. Don't be afraid to crunch it!

[@jasonreilly4006]

Love the content johnny keep up the great work and I'm glad to see the .223 content always love that caliber 👍

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks!

[@8626John]

Excellent video. Some reloading, some shooting and some analysis. Vintage JRB.

[@cheese0794]

Sprinkles got me good. Rolling for a good bit!!

[@8mmmauser896]

Johnny you seem to be an enigma with finding primers and powder what is your secret

[@DrewWhitehead]

Years of stockpiling.

[@nk-dw2hm]

You have to have all the alerts on every website, I've only seen them pop up a few times on brownells midway or other major sites

[@8626John]

@@nk-dw2hm and be willing to pay an arm and a leg.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Buy them 5-10 years before you need them. It's a foolproof strategy. I don't have some gigantic stockpile...I just don't shoot much volume. A brick goes a LONG way for me.

[@Coldasjones]

I’ve been seeing powders and primers at almost everywhere I go. The places I’ve seen powders at $60+ I’ve been able to talk down with some price match Nonsense to $40

[@gavinmiller1858]

Love the videos. Your the reason I got into reloading. Now I got my .270 group down from a little over an inch at 100 down to .412”

[@whfrazier]

Probably auction sites

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

That's awesome to hear!

[@gavinmiller1858]

@@whfrazier what about auction sites

[@8626John]

I haven't seen any Alliant powders in a couple of years. Some Hodgdon and Winchester is starting to be available, but no Alliant.

[@DummyRound]

What a great treat for a Monday morning. Thanks for sharing, Mr Bench!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks!

[@austinalbright9837]

Have you ever tried the Speer 52 grain flat base H.P. Not the match 52 just the regular bullet. It shoots extremely well in several of my 223's as well as a Ruger #1 in 22-250. Very reasonable price too. Just bought 10 boxes from Midway on sale for less than $10.00 a box with free shipping about a month ago. I can't even begin to express my appreciation for the enjoyment you have given in the last few years watching your channel. I think you are the "gold standard" of reloading channels.

[@elkhunter6746]

I've never even heard of that powder but it definitely seem like a good powder. Great video

[@WaderHunts]

Good stuff as always! Looking forward to the 308 video. Thanks for all the effort you put into this, not for just the entertainment, but the quantity and quality of information.

[@DanielBoone337]

I've got to the point I use Vihtavuori powders in everything. I've tried a bunch of others but I always come back to Vihtavuori they're extremely consistent and everything I've used is a nice short cut which is something I really wish more powder manufacturers would give us especially in powders good for cartridges like 223, 6mm ARC, or 6.5 Grendel. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@jamesluke5910]

Ready for more 250 tests already!

[@BG-gr7fh]

The Morgan Freeman drop in was unexpected and pretty dang funny. First drop in l've seen from Johnny, well done

[@ryankobilansky2500]

Immediate thumbs up for gold dots in 22-250. Thanks!!!

[@reaford2004]

Don’t blame you a bit for stopping with the heavy bolt lift. I can’t wait to see this in 6arc

[@troyfeltz8213]

This is a powder that everyone in the 6 ARC community is waiting for. If it gets good velocity it will be the first temp stable powder for the 6 ARC to do so.

[@perrytilton5221]

I will love to see the 308 Win and 6mm ARC vids with 15.5.

[@R1j0hn]

@ 10:55 ---> When working-up a load, isn't it recommended to always seat at a consistent length in order to eliminate "jump" as a variable ? Then you adjust seating depth after you've found the "node"..? 🤔

[@BoltActionReloading]

Interesting first look. I wonder if you were using a drop tube if the powder would settle enough to make a difference.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I'm sure it would have helped a little. I don't think the difference will be dramatic like it can be in larger cases. I'll give it a shot when I do the mk 262 video.

[@afroghair6793]

Thank you , best show on the web.

[@hk91762mm]

Curious -==Have you ever shot without the "Muffler" to see if that tightens groups .! Randy

[@tuckthefide74]

When you say "Don't screw it up" before the last shot, it always screws up. Next time don't say it and see if it does good.

[@afroghair6793]

I was expecting similar results to n140 and varget, and got it. Still waiting to see either of these powders on the shelves around here.

[@scottlamp3097]

I like seeing the chicken hanging out in the background.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

They're fun little things to have around!

[@trev1388]

I was on the fence about buying 15.5 as I was worried it would be lackluster like the StaBall was for the 6.5s. I'll grab some now. How do you train your chickens to stay behind the firing line? Mine never listen. 😄

[@stephenroach8033]

Mine too

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I just quit worrying about them. They were 30 yards downrange at one point while I was shooting. They don't seem to mind the noise whatsoever. I'd love to know how the structure of their ears is different from humans to allow them to tolerate it. Crazy animals!

[@scottgrubaugh5361]

Do you mail order a lot of your powder and primers or do you have a local reloading shop other than big box stores. I have only ever seen one CFE223 and one STAball 6.5. I bought both.

[@ShootingUtah]

It's basically cheaper to buy ammo today than reload, which is really insane.

[@orangerider2827]

I'm just curious what are you reloading for that the ammo is cheaper to buy then reload? I mean yes maybe if your spending 80 plus dollars on a pound of powder like stated in this video. I still with inflated prices can reload match grade and plinking ammo cheaper then I can buy it.

[@jesseiancassidy]

I have tried something new for me and that is 218 bee 46 grain bullets in 223 brass. Only have one powder but would really be interested in what you could do with it.

[@tugboat_actual]

Sages reloading supply, keep this in your arsenal

[@normanthebull7766]

I don't know, the pressure seemed pretty high on the 223 loads. The 5th price of brass completely vaporized. Good video as always, thanks.

[@Manwich526]

I'm in the process of building a 6 ARC upper for coyotes and range fun. The manufacturer says checking headspace isn't necessary, it's going onto an Aero M4E1 upper. Should I still get a Go Gauge and make sure I don't get blown up? Also, what kind of load data would you recommend with Superformance for 85-108 gr hornady bullets

[@jmh3571]

In the temperature stability test it would be cool to put it against Reloder 16 and maybe H4350. Just a thought.

[@trigerfingers1911]

Really liked the video Johnny and appreciate the 22-250 data. Could the reason the middle charge in the 223 Remington went low left be to the fact that the round sat in a hot chamber for a longer than normal amount of time? Keep up the good work!

[@vee_emm_jay_ess]

Can you please do a SHTF scenario 223 load? Use grounded up match stick heads for powder and develop a load on Bobs' bullets.

[@paulharveu526]

I want to see what happens in Gel when a 55gr GD hits it at 3600 fps. Wondering if they are tough enough to stay together. If it does, it would make for a very dead deer.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

My new gel blocks are on the way and that is one of the things I want to test. I bet they hold together! It's going to be wild.

[@danwilliams1132]

That’s going to be a interesting sight!

[@aah4764]

Hi Johnny! I was wondering if you’re ever going to work on the Reloader 15.5 Mk262 anymore? I’ve been rewatching your Mk262 series and really appreciate all of the work and info! Thanks!

[@texpatriot8462]

Johnny - Can you use the 22-250 seating die on 223? Hornady told me I could use my 6.5CM seater for 6.5 Grendel.

[@Super-Kuper]

Really curious to see these with the 75gr Hornady

[@CorwinBos]

Ive been looking for an 8# of this stuff since they released it. Its checks boxes for me: Heavy bullets in 223 Heavy bullets in 308 6mm wildcats, I have a 6 Grendel

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

The Alliant site shows that it's only available in 1 lbs canisters. I'm sure if it's popular they'll start offering jugs. We'll see.

[@CorwinBos]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench The original news flash I seen on Accurate Shooter showed some real promise with the testing they did. If they can get the Varget temp stability and velocity, I think they will have a serious winner. I do wish it was smaller kernels like the AR-Comp, AR 540, or 8208 XBR though.

[@jaredp4483]

@@CorwinBos available at midwayusa right now if you still looking.

[@jeffreywilson690]

I like 7828ssc&H1000 for the heavy bullet for the 22/250 , bolt gun long action

[@lemonaid1605]

Thanks testing out RL15.5. I had high hopes for RL15.5 as RL15 is one of my favorites for 6.5 Grendel but I read that it is bulkier than RL15 so you can't fit as many grains in the case. JRB, can you confirm this?

[@treece1]

I hear that this stuff is good. Also head that pressure in 223 is low. But I also though at maybe it might not show pressure in 223 is because it can't burn but so much up. It's the slowest power right basically would use in 223?

[@G5Hohn]

I’ve tested 15.5 with bullets up to 88 ELD in .223 jammed into the land and super compressed. In my brass, it’s physically impossible to create excessive pressure.

[@HighPriestVaticanAssasin]

What is your COAL?

[@G5Hohn]

@@HighPriestVaticanAssasin I'd have to check the COAL since I use CBTO. My chamber is only a 0.090" freebore chamber, so it's not the longest out there. (about 30 thou longer than a WYLDE).

[@HighPriestVaticanAssasin]

@@G5Hohn whats your CBTO? How fast did you get the 88s going?

[@G5Hohn]

@@HighPriestVaticanAssasin CBTO with my Hornady comparator was 2.026. Didn't chrono but the 600y drop back calculated to 2750 in a 26" bolt rifle. This was a very mild jam in my rifle (bullet comes out of rifling easily).

[@HighPriestVaticanAssasin]

@@G5Hohn so you don't think you can fit anymore in there to speed it up? I typically stay away from compressed loads if I can. Unless the 88s are going 2850-2900 the 75gr Eld is actually a hair better wind and drop wise. The 88s still have the edge on splash though.

[@rustynut1967]

My 6mm ARC didn't get along well with AR-Comp. I'm curious to see how this powder does.

[@kennethtephabock5634]

Great video

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks!

[@1clnsdime1]

They have some SMK 77gr on the shelf at Cabelas in Bowling green for some reason I think you are close to this area.

[@bvhnightmare]

Johnny. Please don't hit me with tiddy sprinkles like that. My rum and cokes is now spit all over the floor. 🤣

[@ahiraband3939]

No idea how your scrounging up powders. Only thing I've found lately was accurate 2460 have to play with it see if it does OK in ar15 and 55 gr slugs

[@griffoutdoortv5882]

Have you had any experience with the sierra 77gr tipped match king looks like it has a slightly higher bc than the bthp

[@Ab-om9qe]

Sorry if this has been covered before but... what accounts for the difference in velocity and SD as they show on the tracker and what you are saying the averages are?

[@ls2005019227]

Very interested in a temperature sensitivity test; that's the main reason I don't use RE-15, is how finicky it is relative to temp. Thanks!

[@jimhans1]

In 22+ years of using RL15, I’ve never once had an issue with it appearing to be temp sensitive. Even when finding a max load in winter and again trying the same ammo in the dead heat of summer, it was basically exactly the same performance. It shows less temp swing for me than even Varget and other supposedly stable powders.

[@joegschwind431]

You owe me a new keyboard, just spit coffee all over it…”titty sprinkles” bwaaahahahaha

[@jenpsakiscousin4589]

I was hoping to find this stuff more available than it has been. I still shoot regular R-15 in Palma for the 308. Temp sensitivity is not a big issue for me as I don’t shoot that much in winter. The 15.5 propellant didn’t see much different as far as temp stable. Still good stuff tho. There will always be R15 and Varget fanboys out there

[@Coldasjones]

Speaking of mk262 series… do more!!! Or at least a summary/conclusion/final load selecting video

[@michaelmoffit1423]

Going from ball to extruded or vice versa, back to back without cleaning is never recommended. Additionally, your stiff bolt lift is most likely brass related and not necessarily a pressure sign for the charge weight. It can definitely be an indicator, but at only one sample you could have moved onto the next charge weight.

[@wadesipes9321]

Commenting to boost the algorithm

[@nk-dw2hm]

How much time do you take between each shot and between each string with the 22-250?

[@EtherFox]

Maybe load up some 224 Valkyrie? Berger 80.5 or Nosler 85 have a fair bit of promise, but anything on hand would be nice.

[@RatelLaw]

Thank you for sharing

[@oldschooljack3479]

May 2024 and RL 15.5 has been MIA for a while now... And Alliant powders are now the highest priced powders on the market. Sad times folks.

[@davidlee50]

EABCO makes a 308 Sabot in 224. Can you look into this?

[@amoseaton9854]

Wish you were closer. I would loan you a 22-250 improved.

[@TexasTrained]

Those log powders don't do much for me.I l I added some H1000 this week and had compression problems in my 6.5 PRC. I like VihtaVuori better..

[@robinsok]

Johnny do you upload anywhere besides KZbin?

[@ItsDburch]

I want this to be a grendel powder, but I suspect it's just to bulky.

[@treece1]

I shoot this in 6bra 12 twist and 7.5 twist. I saw a 28 shot group from a dasher at .25 inch. Shot my personal bests with this stuff

[@bernardcochran9709]

On the 5th shot of the 24.5 charge on the 223, you waited too long with the round in the chamber and allowed it to heat up too long.

[@ack495]

Feel like you’re screwing up that fifth shot because, one you’re getting in your own head and two, your letting that bullet just sit in the chamber and soak. It’s heating up no wonder why the point of impact shifts. Love the videos by the way.

[@CascadingDream]

Alliant should have used a different naming convention because, as you found out the hard way, Reloader 15.5 is faster than Reloader 15.

[@treece1]

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[@johnwhitty9069]

What ever happened to your other 223 predator barrel. It didn't seem to do as well. Is this you og white oak barrel that you gave away or did you get another? Good to see ya bud.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

This is a new 18" WOA SPR with maybe ~500 rounds on it. My old SPR barrel (1:8 mid gas) was given away to a family member. It still shoots great after A LOT of rounds through it. The predator barrel was also repurposed and given to a friend. You are right that it just didn't seem to do as well. It didn't do bad by any means, but some of my favorite bullets (like the 77s) just didn't shoot as well as they did with the SPR. Instead of learning about that Predator chamber and figuring out what it likes, I just decided to go back to an SPR.

[@johnwhitty9069]

Hey thanks for writing back. It's kinda cool you take time to right back to us. Your doing a great job and I look forward to your uploads.

[@alexduke5402]

Yeah I found some rl33 at the local rape shop and paid 55$/lb. They had a ton of it Alliant but 55/lb, 375/8. Limit (2) 1lb, (1) 8lb

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

It's hard to know who to be mad at. I'm sure their wholesale costs are climbing quickly.

[@alexduke5402]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench yeah you have a point. inflation and what not and uncle Sam looking out for his little nieces and nephews lol

[@SimpleLife1971]

I've noticed plenty of powder and bullets at newer prices. A local gun shop has 60 or so pounds of powders and a decent supply of primers. Powders are priced at $50/lb and CCI primers are $90 a brick.

[@wildeyshere5189]

Anybody else mentally betting primers ?

[@dvalinut]

😁😂🤣😃Sprinkles🤣😂😅😁

[@pipegang6497]

Is this reloader 15.5 a new powder?

[@mmelgoza1983]

0:52 💀💀💀

[@tacticalrabbit308]

I will be waiting on the 308 loads

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Wednesday night!

[@tacticalrabbit308]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench cool , are you still having the live chat tonight?

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

@@tacticalrabbit308 No, I am going to work on the video for Wed instead. Livestream should be back next week.

[@tacticalrabbit308]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench ok

[@xnorcal831x]

I got a mold for that 32 wcf I dont have a use for. Do you need one?

[@gtroxlar8597]

Great video. Now load up that 308😁

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Video will be up Wed night!

[@davisk1234]

GRENDEL!

[@glendavis9663]

Cool👍👍

[@justice1327]

How did you get RL15.5?

[@yojimbo05]

I don't know why your broadcasting this you can't even find this powder lol

[@clinkerclint]

Tty sprinkles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@articfox1066]

Dude, don't get high. hrmmmm.

[@michaelkaiser1864]

WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WOULD PRODUCE UNIQUE, 2400 AND SO FORTH LOL!

[@dr.pharma591]

I have 10 lbs of this and it sucks in 6.5 Grendel

[@dustinhudson933]

The only powder I've found that gives decent velocity in my grendel is leverevolution

[@thatguyoverthere2288]

I can send you an address for proper disposal if you're just gonna throw it out...

[@jimhans1]

Not sure why you think a stick powder that slow would work well in 6.5Grendel. I can tell you it does excellent in .22Grendel.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I think it might have some usefulness with heavy bullets in the Grendel. I'll test it just because I'm curious, but I'm keeping my hopes and expectations in check for 6.5 Grendel. We'll see.

[@jamespugh]

Nice find . Brother I got good score locally. Check it out I drop video 1lb of Little gun and 100 pc box of 110gr vmax and lube and primers for $123 out door. I have seen munch Alliant near me when do its super expensive.

[@Thorsaxe777]

Johnny, believe me, I don't crack a smile when you chant "Don't screw it up" because it isn't funny. that sort of pressure is a difficult self-control thing as your mind is saying "Care, but, don't care too much,, then don't care at all,,, back to don't care too much" the whole time you are disciplining trigger pressure and concentrating on the cross-hair intersection. It is tough, to say the least about it. However, I see what you were dealing with and those shots would have been in there, you were trying your best, it's all good. peace bro -Dave

[@montgomery6104]

👍👍🇺🇲

[@DTWCT]

60/lb?! Yikes

[@rmbettac]

😂

[@litesronno1shome]

what kind of drop tube do you use??

[@kencaz]

Cost per round is not even worth it with this powder...!!!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

The cost of this powder should be normal. I just paid 2X normal because the retailer is a dick and I really wanted the powder.

[@RMM--uv7uk]

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[@daneisenbrey9897]

Seriously you paid that much are you on drugs!!!??? You ever think prices are as high as they are because people like you tell the people who follow you yea it ok to pay $80 a pound People value what you do and don’t do I just stopped watching the video I just couldn’t 58 seconds and you lost me