Joker 2 is TERRIBLE

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@Rayhotspur 2 ай бұрын

The first one was so successful they tried to force a sequel . They tried to make what was already great better but broke it instead

@bozcoustics5448 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was looking forward to a sequel to the first one as I thought it was done really well and deserved to have this story expanded but after seeing a lot of reviews on this second one, it doesn't look like something worth watching. Also, apparently it's a bloody musical too

@ryanmozert 2 ай бұрын

lol. better?????

@tigerlancer 23 күн бұрын

Joker 3 plot: Harley gives birth to arthur fleck's son who she names ben fleck. She raises ben to become an actor. ben fleck lands the role of a live action batman and fans affectionately nickname him batfleck to differentiate him from other batman actors. The circle is complete.

@bozcoustics5448 23 күн бұрын

@@tigerlancer Perfect! He obviously has Arthur as his middle name too but a misprint made people think he's called Afleck not Ben A Fleck. I think you're writing the film I want to see mate

@TommyIbarra-mastersaur9000 2 ай бұрын

I still can't belive that we went from a billion to the worst movie of the year

@SpammytheHedgehog 2 ай бұрын

Just like Captain Marvel. The 1st one made a Billion dollars in the box office, while the sequel did terrible.

@muhammadmufly23 2 ай бұрын

@@SpammytheHedgehog The difference is that the Captain Marvel movie is also just ordinary, unlike the 2019 film The Joker which is a masterpiece.

@TommyIbarra-mastersaur9000 2 ай бұрын

@@muhammadmufly23 exactly it's like making the dark knight and then you follow it up with batman and robin

@spider-manunknown9193 2 ай бұрын

Worse movie of the year? Thats a stretch.

@tigerlancer 23 күн бұрын

@SpammytheHedgehog 2 ай бұрын

Tou know what Joker & Captain Marvel have in common? - Their first movies came out in 2019 & made a Billion dollars in the box office. - Their sequels were awful.

@theodorecarter6601 2 ай бұрын

Except Joker was better than Captain Marvel, which makes this even worse.

@Kruthin-cu6cq 2 ай бұрын

But joker 1 is watchable but captain marvel was hit because of infinity war

@haiderraad468 2 ай бұрын

Let's be honest , Captain Marvel made a billion just because it was between the Avengers films but the movie itself is bad just like it's sequel

@rajeshyadav-fp5py 2 ай бұрын

So if captain marvel 3 become success so ut means joker 3 also will be successful Wow

@haiderraad468 2 ай бұрын

@@rajeshyadav-fp5py Both of these will probably never exist so we will never know

@haiderraad468 2 ай бұрын

Madame web and Borderlands : looks like we have competition

@SakurakoLover 2 ай бұрын

The Crow Reboot: Hello there

@KazzKobb 2 ай бұрын

Also Megalopolis

@JavenVirtudes 2 ай бұрын

We need a Two-face movie that's better than this one.

@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024 2 ай бұрын

Joker 2 is the proof that some movies dont need a sequel

@PR1ME98 2 ай бұрын

Yes blame warner bros/DC Todd didn’t want a sequel

@greentoesbstatus4325 2 ай бұрын

Same with Megamind.

@ironlion4054 2 ай бұрын

There are just some great movies that just don't need sequels.

@MusicLover-my6fo 2 ай бұрын

Between Madame Web, Borderlands and Joker Folie a Deux, the 2024 Razzies are going to be a spectacle over who's going to be crowned the worst film of 2024.

@Lerz_1 2 ай бұрын

At the last scene, everyone abandoned Arthur because joker doesn’t exist, it’s all Arthur himself. Outside the movie, everyone were excepting joker, when we realise it’s just Arthur, we abandoned him like people in the movie, no one actually cares about Arthur, its deep and sad.

@Vixis6 2 ай бұрын

Call the movie jester then, and disassociate it from the already established comic book ip. maybe then the social commentary idea your suggesting would have some weight, but don't piggyback off an ip that attracts an audience attached to it, then back pedal so hard because of backlash that you believe you could get away with pretending from the start the intent was to subvert expectations. If this was 2 movies about a clown called jester same plot without any batman connection i think the point you just made would be sick because the payoff wouldve been uncertain from the jump. But you cant give it credit for it being both while ending up being neither. - minus the musical shit i aint ina all that

@kostantza1 2 ай бұрын

Well the movie didn't care for certain, since it treated him as a stepping stone for the "actual" Joker and denying him any sort of final self-realization. Not to mention, most people were actually very interested in Arthur, and would have liked to have gotten more of a look inside his head and have him have an actual conclusion.

@MusicLover-my6fo 2 ай бұрын

Arthur Fleck in Joker - Can you introduce me as Joker? Aurthur Fleck in Joker Folie a Deux - I'm not the "Joker" I'm just Arthur Fleck. I swear, it's like Todd Philips wanted to punish the audience for liking the first film. James Gunn said on Threads that Joker Folie a Deux isn't a part of DC Studios and I'm very glad for that because now James Gunn knows that Todd Phillips can't cook.

@MusicLover-my6fo 2 ай бұрын

Willem Dafoe gave Todd Phillips a better Joker pitch than what we actually received; his pitch was having someone be inspired by Arthur's Joker, but this Joker would be slightly different. It's like having two different Jokers in the same film, like simplifying Geoff Johns' Batman The Three Jokers with Arhtur's Joker being the criminal and the other being the comedian. But at the end of the film, Arthur is the clown because the inmate calls him a "disappointment" as Arthur lays dying realizing that his life was nothing but a bad joke. Ironically, Todd Phillips took Willem Dafoe's pitch but made it completely suck.

@Phantomiam 2 ай бұрын

There is something interesting about, like, if there was a Joker imposter. So it would be possible to have not dueling Jokers but someone that says to be the Joker that isn't the Joker. And that kind of opens up the possibility of an interesting story, particularly if you had Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, and then you had someone who was either imitating or riffing off what he did Exactly what Dafoe said.

@Phantomiam 2 ай бұрын

Dafoe’s Joker most likely would have had different beliefs and different motivations for what Joker should be which would have led to a stand off between the two but this would have definitely been better for Joker 2 and I’m surprised Todd Philips didn’t do this 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

@kostantza1 2 ай бұрын

Ah, Willem Dafoe. Him giving you advice about acting work is like Diddy giving you advice on baby oil brands.😁

@BlorbusUnimax 2 ай бұрын

very strange how they make movies to spite the fan base, almost like they have another completely independent stream of income telling them to do just that

@Dreadeyeknight 2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's pretty weird

@Dreadeyeknight 2 ай бұрын

So they basically went the "alternate universe" route One where fleck chooses to walk away from being the joker and he also dies Pretty weird direction to go

@Wongel_mit_Hut 2 ай бұрын

I dont know why so many people get this wrong. Its NOT a super hero movie.

@charlieandstuff7305 2 ай бұрын

yea its a supervillain movie

@meraj5393 2 ай бұрын

Sadly, Nowadays superhero is synonym for comic book movie.

@meraj5393 2 ай бұрын

Sadly, Nowadays superhero is synonym for comic book movie.

@Luke101 2 ай бұрын

It's still a comic book movie. You don't get to just use comic characters in name only. This movie is a disgrace to the Joker as a character

@meraj5393 2 ай бұрын

@@Luke101 This joker feels like a version that joker would fabricate to avoid execution/Death penalty

@OathKeeper1506 2 ай бұрын

It was terrible and had nothing to do with DC. Phillips played a terrible cover to a song that he’s only heard once. What an incorrigible dumpster fire.

@rocketguardian2001 2 ай бұрын

You know what might have worked? The little-known Pennies From Heaven. Similar in concept but the musical numbers meant something. The plot is really dark but contrasted with bright 1930's songs.

@rickyrichreacts9667 2 ай бұрын

I just recently saw what Tod Phillips said about the new movie. He was never meant to be the actual joker from Batman. He was just a crazy dude who resembled that type of joker but that’s not the actual character.

@anthonyt1t5 2 ай бұрын

Glad i read the wiki, the whole writing sounds awful. Todd was definitely trying to piss off fans of the original film. Those fans who helped make it become successful. Joker 1 was definitely a great character study kind of film. It didn't really encourage any kind of violence. It spotlights the dangers of neglected mental illness and how society does little to address it. Joker 2 seems like it's more focused on trying hard to be clever and thematic than saying anything meaningful.

@ryanmozert 2 ай бұрын

nope. it SUCKED

@PrettyboyAshtun 2 ай бұрын

wtf was that ending.. actually wtf was this whole movie.

@OmarOropeza-t1x 2 ай бұрын

I didn’t even know the movie release

@akshay_g_acharya 2 ай бұрын

i didn't know either

@gaming12678 2 ай бұрын

Joker 2 became the worst movie of the year compared to madame web

@Lerz_1 2 ай бұрын

It’s not a good movie, but it’s a deep one

@kostantza1 2 ай бұрын

Omg, I realized exactly what Arthur's regression in personality reminded me of! It's the undoing of Sansa's character development in season 5 of GoT, just so she could get abused more and relearn all the lessons she'd learned over 4 seasons, to justify her role in the narrative. And the end is as if Ramsay murdered Sansa just as she'd come into her own for good and left without any consequence whatsoever. No wonder it felt so despicable and unsatisfying.

@anayalator2140 2 ай бұрын

I mostly agree with you, but I disagree it's worse than Madam Web.

@wankawanka3053 2 ай бұрын

the first was an origin movie the second an anti origin movie lol

@abhinavsaha8158 2 ай бұрын

The rise and fall of DCEU/WB 🤡🤡🤡 vs the rise, fall and rerise of MCU/Disney 🗿🗿🗿

@8zone256 2 ай бұрын

I walked out it sucked really a musical totally garbage

@josecuestas7246 2 ай бұрын

Evidence that sometimes, a good movie doesn't need a sequel, because it could only ruins the original sucess.

@Luke101 2 ай бұрын

Imagine going from a billion dollar movie where the lead actor won an Oscar, to a box office bomb with the sequel. That's just embarrassing, especially for Joaquin. Why tf did he do this?

@JohnnyJustice777 2 ай бұрын

Well, he also did Napoleon

@SassybunnieYW 2 ай бұрын

Boring yes, but worse than madam web? Hell no. Acting wise, FAR

@masternoob9673 Ай бұрын

The fact that people call Marvel “Disney trash” and yet even they don’t burst into stupid musical numbers every 15 minutes. Hell, they don’t At All 😑

@MemerCopter 2 ай бұрын

Why tf they did a sequel the joker 1 was enough oh wait I forget about money

@patricksanchez5052 2 ай бұрын

WB just wasted the jokers potential and his character

@phantxm706 5 күн бұрын

The first movie he accepts himself at the end and we all felt bad for him and was voting for him… The Second movie… just nuked it. We should’ve seen joker be himself and find an escape that looks realistic. We should’ve seen him crazier and more insane than the 1st movie. Ahhh mannnnn…

@caveman-zd5yv 2 ай бұрын

Stick it to the fans? How about stick it to my own bank account.

@JS-my4jw 2 ай бұрын

I said this back when Joker originally released and I'll say it again now. Joker was a phenomenal standalone movie and absolutely DID NOT need a sequel. It works on it's own merit, and doesn't need anything else. This is just another instance of a sequel ruining a franchise because the studio saw nothing but $$$.

@maksymilianziele28 2 ай бұрын

The first Harvey ever whose transformation into Two-Face was not connected in any possible way to Batman.

@alexgolde593 21 күн бұрын

the only reason they made joker 2 a musical was just an excuse to cast lady gaga in the movie

@fxriSSS 2 ай бұрын

You know what isnt terrible? Transformers ONE

@bof.Cutz1 2 ай бұрын

It really reminds me of the curse of chucky movie but DC version musical. Like oh I'm chucky but I have more chuckys etc horrible movie. Hope they give us the real joker 2

@issactmk50 2 ай бұрын

In the middle of watching the movie in theatre i was done with it - Joker stop singing and start stabbing and shooting like you did in prequel

@khellonstubbs3868 2 ай бұрын

They should have focus on Harley showing how had bad life tring to find mean and the joker manipulation making her go crazy in love and breaking the joker free that could be good first movie showing joker rise into madness and the second showing Harley fall into evil

@alifepug127 2 ай бұрын

This is the hardest decision ever. Which sequel is worst? A) Joker 2 B)Captain Marvel 2 C)Megamind 2

@jasonsimmonds3664 2 ай бұрын

Didn't they also lose 200 million on "Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League"?

@TheLocus343 2 ай бұрын

@criticascronicas eres tu??

@ionutcristian9650 2 ай бұрын

This thing had a budget of 200 mil, the only thing that makes sense to me is that the salaries were astronomical for this.

@UjerekreGoodnews 2 ай бұрын

I've finally helped todd Phillips to rename the movies give me your own title Arthur fleck:a taxi driver rip off Arthur fleck 2: flops de' clowns

@OJ_0709 2 ай бұрын

Even Arkham was shit thought it’d be some spooky asylum not an old people’s home

@RacingSnails64 2 ай бұрын

Harley being smarter than Joker actually worked very well in the Telltale Batman game. In that, Joker/John Doe is mostly weak and pathetic with occasional outbursts, and Harley is the more dominating gang leader who keeps him wrapped around her finger. So as John starts to evolve into Joker, Harley starts finding herself scared and outmatched by what he's becoming. It's quite good.

@trevorphilips9065 2 ай бұрын

He also is the one in charge when he becomes joker she even gets abandoned by him and even betrayed 😂

@noobfilmsproductions5635 2 ай бұрын

I honestly HATED that portrayal of harley. It didn't work at all

@VenomKing7584 2 ай бұрын

I thought Joker 2 was a decent movie. Also, it wasn't supposed to make sense because it's just like what he said at the end of the 1st one, which he said, "You wouldn't get it" Also the first movie is supposed to represent tragedy while the other one would be a comedic or less serious.

@motor4X4kombat 2 ай бұрын

what do you expect this was made by the same guy who made the hangover 2, a sequel infamous for repeating the same plot

@Whereareyouroam 2 ай бұрын

I think the script could saved if there were less singing. I was expecting Joker to escape and break havoc on the oppressors he had and shots of it like guards get killed etc. and finish it with a proper ending

@RacingSnails64 2 ай бұрын

Ooh, taking a bit of inspiration from the Arkham Asylum game? That actually sounds pretty cool

@VeraxMusic 2 ай бұрын

I haven't seen Madam Web, but it can't be bad as Joker. I'm gonna watch it this weekend.

@nicomal 2 ай бұрын

I like that you praised Lady Gaga despite the movie she's in. She's great.

@timm285 10 күн бұрын

Why did they make this terrible movie? What was Todd Phillips thinking

@TheGallery-g9n Ай бұрын

8:55 a perfect description of the DCEU and JOKER 2.

@PieroMinayaRojas 2 ай бұрын

Joker 2 is the definition of character assassination

@Vixis6 2 ай бұрын

I dont believe there just,shouldnt have been a sequel. There are plenty ways it shouldve and couldve been done that wouldve complimented the slow paced psycho anylytical commentary of the first. But all they did was deliberately affirm the fears of those who thought there shouldnt be. Because hollywood are the lost qualified to educate the working ticket paying man on morality lol

@VoiceOfTruth8617 9 күн бұрын

I knew once lady gaga signed up...this movie would be toast

@phillipstilianidis1931 2 ай бұрын

I couldn't wait to see it...😢

@shilpac1141 2 ай бұрын

1 hour gang 👇👇👇💀💀

@atharvsharma607 2 ай бұрын

@RithwikVadul 2 ай бұрын

Not me

@RithwikVadul 2 ай бұрын

Not me

@RithwikVadul 2 ай бұрын

@Godzillaxdeadpool 2 ай бұрын

@RandomBitterMan 13 күн бұрын

Soon as he said a musical i knew it wasn't going to be good

@JavenVirtudes 2 ай бұрын

Proof that Warner Bros is a worse criminal than Joker

@j-555 2 ай бұрын

As time passes, Burton's interpretation of Batman looks better on an almost daily basis. These incarnations are just wrong and terrible. Burton would've made a wildly entertaining solo Joker movie -- but I wouldn't want to see this character without Batman in any case. Batman balances it out. There's no sympathy for Joker because he's evil and a liar. It's not that hard to figure out. These subversive movies trying to humanize killers are ridiculous. The only way it could be handled really cool is toying with this notion that he's an unreliable narrator and just going into surreal expressionist vignettes like a Burton movie or something. This joker is just a punk that deserves a beating from Batman.

@IIIII282 2 ай бұрын

Well that's the thing about killers - they're all humans. It's just that being human is unspokenly equaled to "being good". For which reason exactly, I don't know.

@j-555 2 ай бұрын

@@IIIII282 What you said makes no sense. Not sure what you're trying to say. What characterizes a killer is the loss of their humanity or perhaps the lack of any in the first place. Our humanity is based on empathy for one another. So obviously, a killer is not considering the pain and fear of their victim. The stupid joker movie is about someone abused by a city that lacks empathy and compassion becoming corrupted i.e. losing a sense of empathy for others. (The impetus for the "movement" was the subway slaying, leading to mass riots that clearly affected innocent people.) It's written manipulatively so that you feel sorry for him and think he's justified, but in reality most killing is senseless and done for pleasure or gain.

@IIIII282 2 ай бұрын

@@j-555 well all what happened in this "stupid" movie was confirmed to be the way it happened. And the riots were of a good chunk of gothamites themselves. It's clearly not of a doer fault the way the people do perceive their doings. Btw, all killers, from robbers to dictators, are humans.

@vishnuradhakrishnan1167 2 ай бұрын

Seriously Warner Bros. SUCK! They just ruin everything for milking a cash cow

@silverback1953 2 ай бұрын

Wish that it ended with him smiling

@cybersoldierforever 2 ай бұрын

This movie should not exist.

@WonderrrBred 2 ай бұрын

“In case you hate yourself” Depressed people :3

@mike_lim2020 2 ай бұрын

Right Era Wrong Movie or Left

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@Technologytechniquestv 2 ай бұрын

think youve missed the point of both films buddy

@sorahweiss5821 2 ай бұрын

Really????

@AIKXXVII 2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't see it for free

@Mightymelbournestars12 2 ай бұрын

Oh god no

@caitlinbarbery5260 2 ай бұрын

Main point you’re making is that you want to see an original joker instead of seeing a common mentally ill person. But here’s the point a lot of you have been missing about both joker movies: every version of joker makes it their own. Also, this joker is less about trying to rule all of Gotham to his finest, and more about that he’s a broken person and needs help. That’s the tragedy of this joker, that’s the sadness of Arthur’s story is that he has never had a normal life. And hey, I’d like to see a musical joker, because that’s actually apart of the jokers personality, is craziness, out of the ordinary. Sometimes id like to stop seeing the same old thing, with the bombs and car chases, and see something like that instead. It’s less highlighted with the Batman, and I think part of the point with this version, is to teach people about the real struggles that anyone can have, and Arther is one of them. They add a dazzle touch of joker, and more about real world problems into it. I find it fascinating, on top of a musical note. People are gonna hate me for this, but I’m excited to see it!