Jon Stewart Talks With Joe Rogan About His Switch to a Plant-Based Diet

Taken from JRE #1498 w/Jon Stewart: • Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@isabelchaparro2608]

Jon and his wife are good people, they take care of animals in their farm and mind their business. I went vegan after I saw how animals were treated in factory farms 😐 I could never do it again, the screams were too much.

[@eXolusiatious]

They might not be able to communicate how much harm we are causing, but we can listen to their screams. We betray the most innocent beings.. I wish the world would change faster

[@ldi1451]

chris anderson no gonna lie, kind of funny but in a really stupid way, anyways cure ignorance with information peace bud

[@johnbrzenksforearm8295]

I agree, we should have higher standards on how they are treated and slaughtered. For the most part, most animals are raised and killed humanely, but there are farms with bad people working in them that get off on making these animals lives worse than they should be. On the other hand, in the wild, most Domesticated livestock would suffer pretty similar if not worse treatment. Getting eaten alive is pretty gruesome and is almost every herbivores, omnivores and occasionally meat eating animals fate in the wild. I personally think an electric shock or quick bolt to the head is far more humane than being eaten alive.

[@FPInsight]

@@johnbrzenksforearm8295 there is nothing "humane" about killing someone who wants to live. Focus on the act of kiling, not on the how.

[@ldi1451]

FPInsight facts, Look up the definition of humane. Ask yourself if the definition fits in to the needless slaughter of animals

[@Lb-ri5wr]

Guns are natural - Joe rogan Its hard to argue with a genius, its impossible to argue with an idiot

[@stevenlindhorst7579]

Whats an example of something unnatural

[@Lb-ri5wr]

@@stevenlindhorst7579 a heart transplant?

[@stevenlindhorst7579]

@@Lb-ri5wr why isn't it natural because only humans do it? Or because we just started doing a few decades ago

[@scratchfg212]

I live in Chicago, the only thing I can hunt are rats. No thanks, rather be a vegan.

[@higler.]

Those rats are fucking huge though, so according to Joe they are ATHLETES

[@kshepard71]

Do you ever leave Chicago? I know people who live there and hunt. If you can hunt 1 deer or elk and it feeds you for a year, seems like hunting should at least be “on the table” rather than just considering it to be a non-starter. I get it though, it isn’t for everybody.

[@mikkokorperich4151]

Why don't you hunt humans? As Rogan says, they won't suffer. You give them a quick death.

[@johnulcer]

So in the town I live in, there was an abused horse discovered that had paintballs pelted at it by kids and all kinds of horrible stuff. I forget the exact details but it lost an eye and had not experienced a nice life to say the least. Jon Stewart and his wife adopted it and took it to their farm in NJ. It was in our local paper here a couple years back. Good folks.

[@Zach0451]

I was hoping this story would take a crazy turn where someone ate it to end its suffering, but I guess that's nice

[@coachbeach4964]

Must have been a democrat horse.....if it was a Republican horse he would have paid to have sent to the glue factory. Good ol virtue signaling Stewart! $50,000,000 from Comedy Central alone will go a long way and can buy a lot of virtue for the adoring public to see.

[@johnulcer]

@@Zach0451 well apparently it fell down at the farm and died, so it did kind of have a tragic ending after all.

[@eagle3676]

@@coachbeach4964 what?

[@Zach0451]

@@johnulcer I hope you're joking so that I don't feel too bad for busting out laughing

[@lukeshioshio]

Jon is a really good guy. I resonate with his response to Joe, explaining that he can’t fathom eating meat because he raises farm animals. I think it’s something Joe could understand too. Edit: nevermind Joe is too stuck to be able to meet him halfway

[@19Slim68]

Jon is not a good person. He will criticize Republicans and conservatives but will never say anything to criminal thugs who are terrorizing their communities. But blame the white man and the system for their despicable behavior.

[@carinaekstrom1]

So these beautiful, healthy, athletic animals in nature need to be killed so they wont keep suffering. Joe Rogan is so thoughtful. Shouldn't he morally just make sure that as many of them as possible die right away? I mean, it's cruel to leave some of them alone out there, alive and suffering. And those animals are not individuals with their own personalities and personal lives to live. Only the ones you give personal names to have that.

[@rjrparker6005]

If you don’t cull the deer herd with hunting, crops will be over-run. Bag limits and hunting season keep this in check. It’s an absolute must for farmers.

[@JoJo-ew2vm]

RJR Parker www.thoughtco.com/hunting-myths-and-facts-127898

[@elyasshussain5988]

ow wow a women thinking of someone else other than herself.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@Mountain Man It's not complicated at all. It's all about the fragile male ego.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@Mountain Man Better to have nutrition that the body can regulate to the needed amounts. "Bioavailability" is crude.

[@timhoheisel8939]

Sure there's a moral problem with hunting. The deer didn't wanna die.

[@Pontif11]

It depends on how much you care about deer. I happen to not care much if it can be done sustainably.

[@zrob692]

Nothing wants to die, but it’s just nature and the way the food chain works

[@jessereimer302]

@@Pontif11 Most hunters don't.

[@GaryHighFruit]

@@zrob692 "Nothing wants to die, but it’s just nature" Should we take murder off the law books? And if you're so big on nature like I am, you'd be a vegan (fruit-based)

[@NS-qc3bv]

I like the logic of killing the dear. That's like saying if someone has diabetes and there going to die, you might as well kill them because you know there going to suffer.

[@akash_goel]

No dude, it's different. Every deer isn't hunted in their life. They're not exactly fodder for carnivores. Lots of them just die off of natural causes, like hunger, poisoning, drowning or child birth. The food chain is a logical but not a complete picture of the ecosystem.

[@patdow4276]

What? I don’t think you get it. I have diabetes but I don’t want to be killed just because I may die earlier than the average person. I’d rather live my life as long as possible.

[@optimusprime4263]

@@patdow4276 exact same reason why the dear would want to live as long as possible

[@mk8vs]

Spot on

[@rjrparker6005]

As a farmer with only crops, if you don’t cull the deer herd by hunting, the herd suffers and there will be wasting. Deer multiply almost like rabbits. Not hunting them is not sustainable for any farmer. That’s why they have bag limits and specific times of the year they can be hunted. If you like veggies, we’re going to have to hunt with some frequency. Or no beans, corn, etc.

[@MrErock7]

Rogans argument for hunting is so ridiculous. Come on man

[@ZanciiiC]

MrErock7 Rogan is like a stubborn schoolgirl - won’t admit that meat is not necessary and is damaging us and our planet! 🌎

[@cathompson58]

Lol 😂 did you really say "Come on man?" This has become the Biden rant and I can't see these words without hearing him in my head 🤣

[@Pontif11]

Zane Kalnāja sustainable hunting is very much possible, how is that hurting the planet?

[@Muting_all_advice]

Zane Kalnāja Hunting existing wildlife isn’t damaging the planet-farming animals is though

[@Muting_all_advice]

I think it’s a great argument and I’m vegan. Veganism (real Veganism) isn’t a diet-it’s a lifestyle of least possible harm to animals. The life of a wild animal, especially a wild prey animal, is nightmarishly brutal. I’d much rather a deer shot than ripped apart and maybe eaten alive (which is what bears do to their prey). However I don’t condone hunting for its own sake-I will never get on board with humans just selfishly using animals. Edit to add: On reflection reading other comments, I have to be cautious about Joe’s justification. Of course it’s better to be shot than ripped apart (or die of starvation or injury etc etc) but this has to balanced with the enjoyable period of an animal in its prime.

[@TheHSIHP]

I have to agree with Jon on this one. Personally, I don't see any need to eat meat whether it's through factory farming or hunting.

[@jknewb6276]

Thank you!

[@RobertSmith-up9rz]

That’s probably because you’re fortunate enough to live in the Northern Hemisphere. Many nations don’t have a choice, and raising (or hunting) animals is the only viable way to survive. Farm animals’ existence is solely due to humans, so it’s not a smart argument to say that it’s immoral to kill (and eat) them. If not for us, they wouldn’t exist in their farm forms.

[@kikiflynn]

Animals die in vegetable and grain farming. In the millions.

[@Muting_all_advice]

Kiki Says And livestock eat the most of those crops, so meat eaters are responsible for most of those inadvertent deaths as well as the deliberate ones.

[@sunghyunkim8133]

In the wild when human species were having a hard time to get foods, there was a good point. But now in wealthy conditions?? Only taste.

[@makaelaness]

I was prediabetic, overweight and had high blood pressure at 23. I went vegan and within 6 weeks I no longer had to take medication for my blood pressure and within 6 months I lost 20lbs without exercising. Today I am no longer in danger of becoming diabetic and it runs in both sides of my family. Veganism saved my life. Veganism is better for the planet, the animals and our health.

[@dylansevitt]

the whole hunting argument is super dumb, no one is eating elk for all their meals... it's just a bad faith argument, if all you did was eat elk fine, but Rogan is consuming milk eggs and everything else too 🤦‍♂️🤦

[@higler.]

Nah man he's eating ATHLETES lmao fucking bro rogan at it again

[@ldi1451]

higler Phase 1. let’s clear massive amounts of land for gmo soy for feed and for grazing land and other super useful things, killing and reducing numbers of natural predators (and an ♾ amount of other species) that hunt these certain animals. Phase 2 have no backup and let animals overpopulate. Phase 3. Justify Hunting over populated animals by saying they’re overpopulated without knowing why and saying they’ll die anyways. Phase. 4 wait what

[@akash_goel]

Yep, he's the worst hypocrite I've seen so far

[@redlemur7944]

He’s also eating TRT

[@higler.]

@@redlemur7944 yeah from eating ATHLETES!

[@chrisregan7639]

Factory Farming is systematically killing people as well as causing people to go on lifelong medications. I stopped eating meat about 7-8 years ago, for a number of reasons. As a result , I lost about 25 pounds and no longer have cellulite, (cows leg). I look alot younger. My blood pressure stabilized and i went off of blood pressure medication. My taste buds changed and i can taste the process flavor in packaged food. Their is a distinct flavor that you would never notice unless you stopped consuming it. Headaches gone. Inflammation no more unless im stressed. The taste of fat in my food is noticeable and undesirable at this point. Meat is addictive bc of the hormones and more?? from factory farming. I am in fact much less hungry daily. My daily nutrition levels are higher bc my diet is higher in natural vitamin, my body absorbs nutrients much better and my body is not slowed down bc of the long duration of digesting meat in my system. And finally im not causing pain and suffering, just because Im hungry.... as well as not supporting the bogus secretive factory farming trade, that i should mention here. I used to sell meat in corporate America. I learned alot. I worked their for 3 years. I quit my job, and stopped eating meat.

[@jeremybell1607]

Something tells me you still have cellulite...

[@1StepForwardToday]

@@TG-kt9vg Imo.. If you eat a diverse, balanced whole foods plant based diet, you wont gain weight. Fats, carbs, protein, fiber, are all good for you in balanced proportions. Ultimately, weight is gained from consuming more calories than you expend.

[@chezsuzie]

Right! Beware, people, of the love Joe Rogan touts for his meat-centered diet. It doesn't come without risks. I went vegetarian 31 years ago, then vegan 17 years ago. In contrast, my sister has been an avid meat/animal products-eater all her life and even did Adkins for about a year when it was popular in the late 90s. She NEVER ONCE asked me why/how I was vegan, and I never preached to her, figuring live and let live, right? It's her life, she's free to do with it what she chooses. Well, guess who had to go on dialysis 2 years ago? (Irony, of course, is that now she's trying to guilt-trip me into volunteering to be her live donor! She was free to fuck up her kidneys but if I want to be free to keep mine, I risk being ostracized by the family for not helping her out.) Anecdotal? Maybe. Except everything I've seen researching my sister's condition on her behalf, points to animal protein SPECIFICALLY damaging the kidneys--and the scary thing is that the body is so adept at compensating for the damage that symptoms don't surface until the kidneys are often too far gone. And apparently, as far as conventional medicine is concerned, the kidneys don't regenerate like the liver. Once the cells are dead, the damage is irreversible. With the privileges Joe's fame affords him, I'm sure he's got doctors that constantly keep tabs on his kidney function so that he can continue to eat meat to maintain his unnaturally exaggerated muscle mass for his image as a MMA fighter. Unfortunately most of us regular folk don't have that luxury.

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

good luck on infertility, diabetes, heart disease, loss of hair, receding gums, loss of collagen in the skin, destroyed gut, farting all over the place, .....

[@Ivanskiin12]

John Stewart is a smart guy. You should listen to and follow what he is saying Joe Rogan.

[@Ivanskiin12]

@Allahu Akhbar No. John Stewart is smart. He would destroy you in an intellect conversation.

[@c.s.804]

Joe went out to dinner at the Antler restaurant in Toronto (with Phil Demers, the "save the aquarium animals" guy). Everything about that place is meant to give the illusion you are being served hunted meat, but that's not the case at all. They also serve fois gras, one of the cruelest dishes. Nothing ethical about that place.

[@burnertrump875]

He's literally talked many times about how restaurants can't serve wild game?

[@thepreacher7703]

So what? Have you ever seen a pack of wolves drag down a moose? Or a great white shark bite a seals tail off and let it bleed out? Nature is a cruel bitch.

[@c.s.804]

@@burnertrump875 what is your point? First of all, he was in Canada and maybe could've been under the impression that laws are different here. But even if Joe was aware, that doesn't make what the restaurant is doing right. And Joe is kind of a hypocrite if he says he's against cruel farming practices, yet supports a restaurant that force feeds birds and puts them through hell for some pretentious bullshit dish. Especially since he and Phil literally only went there because it was in the news over a bunch of protests (the protests were against antler calling itself ethical meat while serving fois gras).

[@pcaul8156]

The Preacher yes nature is cruel, but you do not live in nature, you have removed yourself and don’t lay eyes on what you eat. ‘So what’ great attitude, hope you don’t have kids, since cruelty is natural in your eyes.

[@wademt]

The Preacher does that mean we as individuals need to participate in that cruelty?

[@conniewaczkowski2961]

well stated Jon. Jon Stewart is light years ahead of Rogan intellectually and spiritually.

[@ErikPukinskis]

I think probably overall true. But it also seems clear to me in this interview that Stewart is not really listening to Joe. While Joe is answering questions, Jon seems to be waiting to make the arguments he wants to make, not having a dialog. Which, all respect to the man, is an intellectual weakness. Joe, to the extent he's able, is trying to talk about the conservation role of hunting. That seems to go over Jon's head entirely because that's not the conversation he wanted to have.

[@gardencookeat22]

Its the 'roids joe "doesnt" take. It puts an animal mentality about everything....

[@jessereimer302]

@@ErikPukinskis I do not agree. Joe retorted with his go to talking-points.

[@MetallicAddict15]

@@ErikPukinskis Because it's a dumb argument. Hunting animals isn't great for conservation like Joe claims it is. Earthling Ed had a great response to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eICneoijd7mKoZo

[@theyeticlutch3486]

Lol no

[@TheBub26]

joe eats only deer that he's put down with a choke hold

[@pavlovsworld9122]

Rear Naked Choke! 😂😂

[@etiennescarbinski7890]

All mountain men did

[@ShadowCraft1195]

You mean kicked in the head. Joes kicks are insane

[@lordquas4442]

No, that’s Bryce Mitchell

[@buckeye9252]

@@ShadowCraft1195 Would prolly rather get kicked by a mule than his spinning back kick.

[@jackpumpkinpatch2119]

Jon’s story sounds exactly like mine. Wife, buy farm, animal rescue, meat free

[@karsonerp206]

@The Deathless 😂😂

[@1StepForwardToday]

@@karsonerp206 If you cant be content with that then you must add one more to the list (a psychiatrist).

[@joopdaloop5840]

there is 100% fear on factory farms. the animals suffer living in factory farms not just at the slaughter house. As long as Joe supports eating meat he is encouraging his followers to eat meat too and contributing to the demand and need for factory farms, whether he likes it or not

[@therealdaftaida]

I’ve got no problem with hunting if one lives remote and needs to eat but the vast majority of people live in cities and rely on factory farmed animals which inflicts terrible suffering , it’s bad for the environment and we will all pay for the cost of antibiotics resistant bacteria.when you next take your child to the doctors with a scratch and are told they will die because the antibiotics don’t work any more remember you will be partly to blame. Plant based might not be popular but its the future.

[@marboz2969]

simon courtney looms and let’s not forget that eating meat is what gave us the coronavirus.

[@dancatalano4177]

Marcy Bosworth u mean from a factory farm also the coronavirus might had come from a bat in asia

[@marboz2969]

Dan Catalano they say that it’s only a matter of time until it comes from a pig or a chicken. We can’t pat ourselves on the back too much. We have wet markets and treat our animals horribly.

[@ATastyEnd]

Joe "I prefer hunting but still love going out for fried chicken and going to steak houses" Rogan

[@blackprincegt]

And Joe " do as I say not as I do " Rogan

[@OhItsLuCa]

The Wraith he literally said “this is a personal decision and I make no judgements on others for their decisions” but go off bro

[@The_Gallowglass]

@The Wraith He wasn't though. He just said this is my perspective now. He literally said I'm not here to judge anybody.

[@blackprincegt]

Stop arguing you bad bad men. Love one another ❤️👨‍❤️‍👨

[@The_Gallowglass]

@Zen Master He never said that though.

[@adriansarduy4151]

Joe "I know the reality of the life of a deer" Rogan

[@Timduo]

Or it can live a happy life and die of old age lol

[@stevend481]

Yea i dont get joes logic...this deer will die tragically anyway so I might as well kill it lol

[@monster762]

@@stevend481 and let's not care about the animals that need to eat deer.

[@Dwellerz]

Tim Duo Ha! Deer in the wild do not die of old age. “Dying of old age” just means getting too slow to outrun predators.

[@Dwellerz]

Steven D What don’t you understand? If a creature is destined to be consumed by predators anyway, and almost all deer are,(except for those that die of parasites, or freeze to death because they couldn’t gather enough calories) would you rather be shot once through the heart and lungs and die almost instantly, or eaten alive by a pack of wolves?

[@jamieshows1564]

Jon Stewart is a good dude. Say what you want about him, but he's always rooted for the underdog. He's got my respect for that.

[@elpistolero9394]

Jamie Shows Sometimes the underdog is a dick.

[@19Slim68]

Rooting for the underdog does not make you a good person. What if an underdog is a criminal?

[@iamthereinforcements1972]

How is it that Joe says 1 elk last a year, yet he's always hunting every weekend?!?!?

[@javarithms]

Because most hunts end up being unsuccessful.

[@dylansevitt]

it's bullshit people don't hunt in order to eat... people hunt because it's fun...

[@danielszymanski772]

A lot of celebrities donate their excess game to the needy ! Hunters sharing the harvest donates thousands of meals worth of game meat a year to homeless shelters

[@danielszymanski772]

Also regular hunters

[@wadereeser3054]

@@dylansevitt plenty of people hunt for meat, I know them. Educate yourself

[@VeganFTA]

Those terrifying orangutang predators with their forward facing eyes! 🤣

[@te9591]

I'm pretty sure Orangutans are omnivorous, yes?

[@NicoleCScott]

@@te9591 all extant apes are frugivores

[@santaclaus3077]

I stick to a strict diet of milk and cookies and I'm healthy as a horse.

[@freetheuyghurssupporthongk1278]

Milk will give you osteoporosis drink safe santa

[@owennano6403]

Yeah well, Santa, dairy farms are pretty evil places. Also, milk is 80% plasma. Kind of gross, maybe. Thank you for the Sega Genesis in '92.

[@oscarsantillan5553]

I would get my insulin checked

[@AnandMagic9]

Not everyone can be YOU, Santa.

[@madpop17]

Can you bring me a bicycle this year?

[@robdiamante7543]

"Thou shalt not kill" needs to be looked at again. Thanks Jon

[@nikonxxx]

For humans. Not food.

[@wademt]

Once you’ve successfully switched to a plant based diet, killing starts to feel evil.

[@nikonxxx]

@@wademt yeah you btainwashed your self at that point.

[@GregVidua]

@@nikonxxx there is no larger brainwashing than carnism.

[@mikkokorperich4151]

* Joe Rogan playing God: "In nature animals die a horrible death. I give them a quick death." * "Eating only vegetables." Are there actually vegans who eat only vegetables??? I eat vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, grains etc.

[@vinzenzmay3469]

I want to see 300.000.000 US citizens go hunt for two weeks and then return to factory farming as every single wild animal has been eaten.

[@alpertugrulcelik211]

Believe me when I say, the actual population that could/would actually bother is probably less than 1% of that

[@draw4kicks]

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-06-01-new-estimates-environmental-cost-food Yeah, but if we eliminated animal agriculture entirely we could reduce the amount of land needed globally for agriculture by 76%, half the food grown on earth is fed to livestock. Gotta find a better way to feed 8 billion people and eliminating the middleman (the animals) seems like a good way to go if I'm honest.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@alpertugrulcelik211 And the rest would be plant eaters, and much healthier.

[@danielszymanski772]

Most would starve ! It's not as easy as you think ! Especially with a bow like Joe uses

[@daze3o5]

yep, there's already various limitations on hunting seasons, and licences, to prevent things from getting out of hand. it wouldn't be a sustainable way for everyone to get their food.

[@caiofernando]

The problem with hunting is that it's totally unsustainable. If we would only eat hunt game, people would be plant-based 99% of their meals, which I'm totally okay with, by the way. I think hunters and vegans should unite against factory farms, but I really doubt hunters really care as much as they claim.

[@alexandernorrie]

That's impossible vegans are retards who are on a starvation diets. It would be better just to hunt down the vegans. I kid though

[@solidstream13]

I hear hunters say all these reasons it’s good but they all also go to the grocery store and eat factory farmed animals also.

[@thepreacher7703]

"Hunting is unsustainable."? Every predator on earth has been hunting since before dinosaurs. Most places are overrun with deer to the point that they are a nuisance. Please please please to avoid looking like an idiot find out about what you are talking about before you talk.

[@thepreacher7703]

@@solidstream13 a standard deer is not a lot of meat. By the time you skin it gut it and bone it, you got 40 pounds of meat. Doesn't last long.

[@caiofernando]

​@@thepreacher7703 "Most places are overrun with deer" lol yeah, sure. It's unsustainable because it's impossible to feed the entire world with hunting. There's simply not enough land.

[@deniselauzon1010]

Joe Rogan's thinking about hunting is completely absurd.

[@KikiAndJeffreyPearl]

Great interview! It’s Jeffrey, I’m 56, I went Vegan for health reasons, wanted to better the numbers(blood tests) and did! The biggest surprise was the increased spirituality. This guy gets it......

[@bartkl]

Nice, respectful conversation. I agree with Jon and the connection/insight he mentions has made me choose the same path he did. The topic of veganism is so much more interesting and enjoyable this way (mutual respect). I also respect Joe's perspective. Whether he's right or not about the exact consequences of hunting: he definitely thinks and cares about animal welfare and thinks critically about it. Great stuff, made my day.

[@barbourX]

bartkl I agree, it's nice to see two polar opposite opinions have a meaningful and respectful debate about such a sensitive subject. This is the way conversation should be, neither side was trying to convince the other they are right and you are wrong. It was just here is how I see it. I think this is the problem with our society today. Everybody is trying to change anybody that don't agree with them. And if they can't change them, then they are idiots.

[@HousePeople]

This

[@labbyshepherdpuppy5943]

Well if you want examples, on an ecological stand point if you remove predators, Yellowstone elk over grazing was harmful to the whole ecosystem, deer all over the United States also over graze as well as develop diseases like CWD because predators are not removing the old and sick, and you have the wild boar population literally outcompeting everything and destroying ecosystems and agriculture land. Just somethings to consider when thinking about hunting in general

[@GlennTXstate10]

Their mutual respect is a quality more of our society should have. I'm a hunter and totally respect an individuals confliction and reasoning for being vegetarian/vegan. Understanding the work involved to be in the position to take an animals life is one part and the other is the mental aspect of ending an animals life. You come to respect animals more and become aware of what is involved in taking an animals life. It's not easy or joyful. The caveman inside us later appreciates the payoff for the work spent to provide this food for self and family. I think every person that eats meat should have to take an animals life to understand what is involved in the process and how their meat ends up on their plate. I feel this is taken for granted and not realized with the regular American. This is why I totally understand the vegan/vegetarian mentality and not being able to take an animals life.

[@bartkl]

@@labbyshepherdpuppy5943 Thanks for the info. I was vaguely aware, yes. For such reasons I'm definitely open to the possibility of hunting being something that can reduce overall suffering in places. There's complications though. Hunting should be highly regulated in my opso we have 'full' control over how we affect the ecosystem. Maybe this is already appropriately in place, I simply know too little about it. I know that here in the Netherlands you need a permit (which you don't obtain too easily) and there's all sorts of regulations. Also, and I would like to hear if you agree, if everyone would eat exclusively meat they hunted for themselves, I would expect only few calories we take in to come from meat.

[@Tzaltochnie1]

I like Joe a lot. But everytime I hear him talk about hunting it reminds me how ignorant smart people can be. Jon even hints towards it. People get very hostile and ignorant when it comes to a personal change they have to make. Especially if you do it everyday. The next guest who talks food with Joe should really point out that its freaking impossible for everybody to go out and shoot some wild life.

[@Santa1936]

Way to make the best the enemy of the good. Everyone isn't out hunting. So how exactly is him hunting any less sustainable?

[@burnertrump875]

@@Santa1936 Because when you talk about sustainability you have to apply it across large populations/most of the world. Thats the whole point of using that word.

[@ldi1451]

burner trump lmfao

[@thejuiceisloose1566]

I think Joe knows that lol.

[@mattr372]

Why does Joe think that personally killing a deer is better than a mountain lion killing the deer?

[@allanj4576]

Speed

[@shannamathias4176]

The mountain lion will eat it alive. Which way would you choose to go?

[@Laurenpclarke]

Shanna Mathias soo let’s just fuck with the ecosystem where this mountain lion starved to death?

[@MrTiton536]

Why is it that you think killing plants is any better then killing animals. You must kill to survive period

[@MrTiton536]

Lauren Clarke dumbest comment

[@RJLupin-zu9xv]

I hope that Joe Rogan has the same profound realization that Jon has had. I also hope that he can live with himself when he does.

[@aryinc]

why not. 90% of vegans killed and still kill. Would be hypocritical...Aggain to blame it on the meatguys.

[@shelleygarza8472]

Love how confident and assured in his position Jon was all while keeping it calm and respectful. I agree 100% with his position. He’s being the change he wishes to see in the world.

[@higler.]

No living being wants to die to be your meal. It's that simple to understand.

[@ynot4136]

Yep. Though eat other living beings that eat other living brings........

[@andreafalconiero9089]

And yet... every living being dies and becomes someone's meal.

[@gilbertogomez2678]

I don’t like Joe’s argument. The animal might have many days, months, years of life left before you shoot it. You’re not putting it out of its misery...you’re just cutting it’s life short. Just stick to the fact that you can feed yourself and your family for a long time, and quite frankly, that you find it fun. It’s a better argument.

[@carinaekstrom1]

Slowly poisoning himself and his family during a long time would be more accurate.

[@robertdabob8939]

Good intuition because he doesn't have a clue about health. He argues from his conclusion. Love him otherwise though. He is open minded, but is super stubborn on this issue. the science is clear that whole food plant based in the superior diet for health and longevity.

[@evanstowers8529]

That's the truth, you can feed your family for a long time and that's the only argument I see has holding weight and it's a good one because people in the country often benefit greatly from that cheap influx of food.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@evanstowers8529 Cheap, cruel and as unhealthy as junk food. We can do better for people in the country.

[@smilebot484]

Playing god with the lives of other animals is the height of arrogance and an ethical non-starter for our treatment of animals.

[@thePANDEMlC]

Ole Joe, with the same tired non argument time and time again. Hunting is not a solution as it's not sustainable for everyone to do, hunting(especially when you're rich) is not a moral answer to the ethics of the question at hand. It's a shame John doesn't push him on this, because it's such a weak point. Animals of all kinds die, but that inevitability does not give you a free pass to do what you want with a sentient being. Just as people dying does not give you a free pass to murder. Rape existing in nature not giving you justification for you to rape, etc. Joe does not hunt for survival, he's rich, he lives in LA(the vegan capital of the world), this man can get delicious healthy food made for him, delivered to him for free if he wanted at all hours of the day with no detriment to himself or his health. YET he continues to needlessly kill sentient animals for pleasure. There's no justification, apply any excuse you make to anything else and you'll see how quickly that logic falls apart. It's tiresome to hear someone with this much influence time and time again dodge the question at hand and answer with a non answer, hollow lip service that the rest of his meat eating fans can just hear and quickly forget about any moral contradiction in their own life. Be logical and you'll quickly realize there are no distinguishing traits that these animals do not have that makes them deserving of our moral consideration. In all the ways that matter animals are the same.

[@Mimsie]

Does this value you have extend to rodents and other small animals? Because monocropping slaughters a lot of them come harvest time.

[@hawke123]

I have some sympathies towards veganism. However, I must push back against the claim that animals have equal moral worth as human beings. I don't think you've yet recognized the absurd ramifications of animals and humans having equal moral value.

[@joe94c]

Stewart's A 57 year old, on a badly lit webcam, who's simply not a fitness fanatic. Rogan's audience, 'hur Hur he look sick, eat meat, meat good' He's not even looking that bad. Give him a shave and a suit and it would take 10 years off

[@js0001xg]

@Christmas house lmao how does he look like he's dying in any way

[@MrUgahcanada]

Exactly what I’m thinking, he could have rolled out of bed 30 minutes ago and people are like “THE VEGAN LOOK YUCKY”

[@Sagradia]

Saw him on last year's Mark Twain Award presentation for Dave Chapelle, and dude looked like he was dying. I suspected he became vegan and looked it up, and ofc I was right. It's much easier for vegans to be anemic than it is for meat eaters. Living at half vitality with your brain at half functioning strength is not the way to live, dead animals or not.

[@woblobsterbeatboxer5124]

With big respect to Joe and his determination to spread conscious conversation. By Joe's logic here, killing him quickly tomorrow would be a favour that'd save him from slow death by old age or heart disease or being eaten by wolves, whatever.... nevermind that the wolves would just eat then another animal, you are still robbing an animal of years of its life. That it has grown to love and appreciate and wants to live, same reason killing a human or dog isn't ok. Compassionate Awakening is coming, don't let that ego stand in the way

[@traveler65]

"The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world". Paul Farmer.

[@traveler65]

@@williamhaddoc I think it is pretty clear

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

yes animal lives are worth a lot. they are the basis of human nutrition lol

[@traveler65]

@@ricardodelacrvz1400 "My body is a temple not a tomb"

[@traveler65]

@@ricardodelacrvz1400 Animal flesh & dairy are full of antibiotics, hormones, saturated fat, GMO corn and soy fed. 🤔

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

@@traveler65 yes if you buy them in the supermarket lol buy grass fed, invest in the community and local farms lol saturated fat is the most precious food ever in history of mankind. its actually what your humans organ feed themselves to thrive

[@austinechomusic]

Since when is bleeding out a peaceful death?

[@EARTHSPACENOISE]

so true. I understand Joe has skills, but I dont think he is on the level of an olympic archer and find it very hard to believe he kills elk with one arrow instantly in the heart. I heard him talk about hearing his prey scream out so not peaceful. I totally understand Stewart. He is trying to explain that he feels these animals’ fear and sorrow since he started rescuing them and could never contribute to their pain again. By having the compassion to rescue, you understand every animal’s life is valuable and important to protect. The bond is made stronger by nursing sick animals back to health. Jon Stewart is good people.

[@jimbo9305]

Bleeding out from a gunshot versus clawed and bitten to death (which also includes lots of bleeding).

[@michaeld4861]

true, also I like how joe assumes that every deer is mauled slowly to death because of one deer he came across. If that were the case they would go extinct. remember predators fail like 95% of the time in nature. Most deer just run away and continue living lol Plus shooting the strongest animal in the group brings down the genetics allowing the weaker and sicker ones to breed more

[@Grombrindal91]

Vs being eaten alive ass first.

[@The_Gallowglass]

@@EARTHSPACENOISE Being shot with an arrow or gun is a far more merciful way to go out than being eaten alive, piled on by giant furry muscles with teeth and claws.

[@serenaofvenus]

I'm seriously in love with Jon Stewart

[@WackoMac]

Joe acts like no wild animals die of old age lol. I love Joe's openness to discussing veganism and the problems with factory farming.

[@HappyCatholicDane]

Most don’t, they die from predators, injury or illness. Either way, it inevitably ends up being eaten by some other creature. Nature doesn’t waste anything.

[@basesketch]

@@HappyCatholicDane including us

[@HappyCatholicDane]

Kirk coffee man Kind of, yes.

[@ldi1451]

h. s You really think most get killed by predators? lol. That’s the whole point of hunting is for “population control” I mean no offense but your just wrong. Most predators have been cleared out, for farms, feed fields, and grazing lands for cows. Nature has an automatic population control, the only time it gets out of hand like that is through artificial intervention aka humans

[@edwindano]

Listening to Joe's argument makes me wonder how hes worth millions? Its like you're debating a five year old

[@MeandThee]

Thank you, Jon, for looking forward-the only route to our survival.

[@aaaaaa-hd7zp]

Joe Rogan needs to have James Aspey on here

[@flipmcflop2]

agreed!

[@Sophiasisi]

Yes!!

[@lasseskov3369]

he already has - twice

[@gargameel007]

Some meatprocessingfactory couple weeks ago, they filmed undercover footage. There were to many pigs to process and they couldnt kill them fast enough so thousands upon thousands of pigs were unusable for so called consumption. They put like 50000 pigs together, closed off all air intakes , turned the heaters to max and started pumping the building full of steam. The pigs slowly died overnight screaming beeing boiled alive and sufocating getting no air... in the morning some guy comes in and shoots the pigs that made it and are still barely breathing completely burned suffering all night...then they drive a bulldozer trough the building pushing all the dead bodies out with even then some surviving pigs just beeing crushed to death after all that... this is what is happening so you can eat your meat. This is not a 1 time thing, this happens the whole time around the whole world!!! It has to stop. If you know what realy happens with your food... its horrible... truly heartbreaking.

[@OceanicMemory]

Sometimes I think maybe Hinduism is right, earth is the real hell for those who repeat their mistake and not learn anything, Maybe we are forced to reincarnate as these animals and get crushed, burned and eaten again and again because we do the same mistake when we had the human awareness! eating ourselves to death! imagine what a joke we are playing on ourselves! heh

[@nmcooke]

P3rp. That's a coronavirus issue. When governors shut down the businesses (and applicably restaurants in this scenario) in their state abruptly, which is where that bacon and pork chops were destined for, you end up with business owners that are already losing their life savings being forced to try to decide how to cut their losses. It's a crap situation but what would you recommend be done with the animals? Should the business owners that got screwed keep buying food (losing money) for them. Life isn't a fairy tale. Try spending some actual time on a farm. 🤷 Shit happens dude.

[@nmcooke]

Also, your claim of 50,000 pigs seems like a big, fat (kind of like a pig) lie. 😁🐖The largest farm in the US has 24,000 pigs. www.statista.com/statistics/194371/top-10-us-states-by-number-of-hogs-and-pigs/ Care to elaborate on this 50,000 pig farm?

[@rawlee2668]

I cannot stand when hunters pretend they have a caring relationship with the animals they kill. Kind of like a rapist saying he has a loving relationship with his rape victims. Just say you love to kill.

[@theotormon]

Better than buying a dead animal that grew up in a factory.

[@sqdtnz]

If you take a vegetarian or vegan diet, the biggest issue you might get is with B12 and iron. Check your blood values and take supplements for these as needed. Besides that it really doesn't matter. About hunting, I understand what makes it morally better than farm animals, but you can't have hundreds of millions of people hunting. That would become crazy. And animals killing each other, that's their struggle, we surpassed that. We have the capacity to empathize with other creatures, which is maybe our biggest achievement as humans.

[@MrUgahcanada]

sqdtnz the fact that we don’t need to waste resources on raising livestock is reason enough to cut the crap and stop eating them.

[@moegreene7940]

Couple things. Some animals are invasive. Wild pigs in Texas are destroying farms en masse that grows grain and plant based foods. You have to hunt them. Also, the deer population was out of control in some areas because of lack of predators but also hunting restrictions. Deer destroy number of orchards and small gardens. Hunting is necessary even if it wasn’t made for “kill what you eat”

[@armchairquarterback2672]

Research anti-nutrients like goitrogens, lectins and tannins. Humans aren't meant to eat a plant based diet, these anti-nutrients are a plants defense mechanism and our digestive tract aren't designed like a cows to ferment these plants. Research the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz, and go check out Goatis and Frank Tufano's KZbin channel.

[@Hoeskiesvideos]

@@MrUgahcanada we waste the same if not more on fruits and vegetables. We destroy 100s of thousands of acres of land just to plant fruits and vegetables and chemically change them to eat them all year round. Large Commercial farming as a whole is terrible and should be stopped.

[@aidanalfaro5930]

Hoeskiesvideos the reason so much land is being destroyed is because we feed out livestock so much plant produce. 97% of soybeans are fed to cattle. we could cut down on so much farming if people went vegan. Cows on average eat 24 pounds of food a DAY imagine how many people we could feed with that.

[@damien884]

An interesting read:”Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows”.

[@ronchojohnson2869]

Germans ate dog during and after WW2. Stewart would eat dog. Just need the right circumstances where dog meat is more important than petting the dog.

[@tylertyler82]

My dog would give up her life to feed me. Dogs are great like that.

[@heno86]

@@tylertyler82 did you ask her?

[@pleasefeedmewaxworms]

Pets are really only a result of well fed people.

[@Kanglar]

@@pleasefeedmewaxworms Not really the case with dogs, their relationship with humans is really symbiotic. Even if you're in a famine, you're better off using your dog to help hunt or protect you than just eating it. The dogs aren't smart to get enough food on their own, and humans don't have good enough senses.

[@joephillips5594]

I would LOVE to see Dr. Michael Greger on Joe Rogan's show. Yes, eating wild game is better than eating factory farm meat, but its not better than eating chickpeas.

[@jasoncora1]

John looks like he just got back from a vacation in Miami

[@elmerbeltshire7599]

Looks like he crawled out of a morgue.

[@BangkokBound]

John is 5 years older than Joe and he looks like he’s 70.

[@WackoMac]

@@BangkokBound he still has hair

[@alexmiles32]

Bangkok Bound this is what happens when you have a plant based diet...eat meat

[@vaughncolasanti2398]

@@alexmiles32 animal flesh is GMO soy and corn fed/antibiotic and hormone saturated , casein in dairy products, mega cholesterol and saturated fat. Just saying.

[@joopdaloop5840]

not enough wild deer to feed everyone unless you factory farm them 🙄 Plant based diet is so varied and nutritious. #govegan 💚🌱

[@90210146]

Starring in the Bambi remake, Joe Rogan 🦌

[@samus598]

Bambi's mom was humanely put to sleep to save her from the cruel world.

[@plantbasedethos5726]

I wouldn't be able to hunt, not in my nature but I understand Joe's perspective, he's doing better than most folks who eat meat or animal products from the store. Although I don't believe he consumes 100% of his food just from what he hunts. Especially when going out what he does quite often

[@akash_goel]

I don't believe him for a second though. Think about it - so apart from eating the so called hunted animal at home - does he and his family eat vegan when they go out? No right? So doesn't that mean that he's stuffing hamburgers just like the rest of the other people? This hunting lifestyle argument is bs

[@ajflife46]

How is becoming plant-based tougher than any other diet switch?

[@akash_goel]

They don't serve vegan cheeseburgers everywhere duh

[@Liz_Alfano]

It’s easier and easier all the time. Most restaurants have plant options and cooking plant based at home is way easier.

[@audreyhayn1794]

It just requires a bit extra knowledge about protein/amino contents and planning for micronutrients and supplements. I don’t think it’s that hard though, it takes like an hour of research to find out whats really a staple

[@Pontif11]

Because cows are delicious. Also nearly every human on earth comes from a culture of eating meat. Also because we overestimate how much people in general care for animal suffering

[@toris5605]

It’s socially unacceptable, which makes it more difficult than other diets. My family and friends bullied me when I first went vegan in 2016 but now they’ve accepted it

[@orellaminx3530]

The dude is literally yellow to the point it can't be blamed on lighting and bad equipment alone. He doesn't look healthy at all.

[@Rose_Ou]

He looks terrible. True.

[@Rose_Ou]

@Kazanova Capone my mother is 75 and she looks younger. Sorry but he does look old and sick.

[@jamescrud]

That's just bad white balance because of the shit webcam he's using.

[@stevenpaplan7154]

I think your used to him being shaved, 10 years younger, and not holed up in his house for 4 months

[@swisstrader]

I went plant based 6 months ago...never in a million years did I think I would be feel healthy as heck. And lost 20 pounds in the first 3 months. I initially didnt do it to save the planet or save the animals. Started it just for fun, just like I did with keto and a few other diets and this was the one diet that changed my health and how I felt in dramatic fashion. I don’t pass judgement on others for being meat eaters...live and let live.

[@andreafalconiero9089]

Congratulations. I'm sure that 20+ pounds of human flesh was very nutritious. Endocannibalism can't last forever, though -- eventually you'll start to develop nutrient deficiencies, and that will be a good time to start adding back into your diet some external sources of (hopefully non-human) meat. It sounds like you're not dogmatic about diets, so I expect you'll have the good sense to do so when the time comes.

[@oraziohall2969]

I was plant based for 4 years. Mostly 'health' foods of high quality. I ended up tanking my testosterone and feeling completely depleted of nutrients. I'm now 18 month into high fat animal based and it is 100% easier to digest and easy to avoid processed foods. My cravings for PB'n'j sandwiches and pizzas was gone pretty much immediately. Saturated animal fat was the largest source of calories for every human being outside of a select few areas where animals were scarce. India worships the cow for a reason. If it weren't for the cows milk they would not exist. If it weren't for saturated animal fat, humans wouldn't exist. It was our drive to find a more dense form of nutrition that allowed our brains to develop allowing us to hunt large animals. Apes eat small bugs and mostly plants because they developed huge guts and relatively small brains in contrast to our smaller guts and larger brains. The vegan diet goes against our natural inclination to eat the best fuel for our large brains that is also the least taxing on the digestive system. An animal based diet is easy to digest and high in nutrition and calories compared to a diet full of indigestible plant fiber. Sorry to burst your bubble but just take to red meat pill if you want to live.

[@Christopher81820]

Joe: "Eats for survivability, sustenance, and gain". Jon: "Well I'm an old jew."

[@Heavywall70]

Stewart; very common Jewish surname

[@egodominustuus9167]

@@Heavywall70 It's not his real name. He's even joked about changing his name in the past.

[@Savings_and_Grift_Plan]

@@Heavywall70 Formerly Jonathan Leibowitz.

[@ronchojohnson2869]

We know Jon, most illuminati puppets are.

[@tylertyler82]

Roncho Johnson just because you failed in life doesn’t mean those who are successful are taking from you. You put yourself in your position. Personal responsibility

[@dlehmann8353]

I AM SO PRO- LAB MEAT.... for Cat food etc.. Although I am a Vegan and am Happy with my lifestyle

[@CeciLegerCTA]

And may all humans become increasingly as enlightened as Jon

[@Sophiasisi]

It's weird to me that you would go through the whole effort to hunt when you can just eat plants :P

[@wademt]

The effort is the fun. I eat vegan, have for nearly 10 years. But I live in Montana, and hunted for the first 40 years of my life. I had to replace hunting with mountain biking.

[@7vanave]

Yeah it’s clear from his other hobbies that Joe is entertained by causing damage to other things in a competitive fashion. If you listen to him speak about animals, he actually believes he is competing with them, and then wins when he kills them. It’s his most deplorable trait, at least it isn’t directed at people.

[@dripllc5088]

Plants aren't athletes 😂

[@EmanualBAvery]

I just started eating plant based meat.I actually feel better eating it.

[@stevenpaplan7154]

Those products can be really good. I became vegan the first time I made vegan alfredo pasta. I was amazed how good it tasted. How creamy it was, and how after eating 2 huge plate full, instead of feeling weighted down and sick like I just ate a bunch of cream and cheese with heavy pasta, I felt really good. Now when i eat, I eat till I'm not hungry and I stay full. Of you eat food, and you feel sick or weighted down after, that's really bad. You need food to live for energy, if your food is making you feel bad, that's because its destroying you slowly. I can eat for 2 hours straight and instantly jump on my skateboard in 100 degree weather and spend the day being active. Its awesome

[@EmanualBAvery]

Yes,that's great.You're right that if you feel bad after you eat,basically bad food it can and will destroy you.My eating habits has changed.I feel better about myself.I used to weigh 240.But that's because I lifted weights.I weighed that amount off-season during the winter then start cutting down around February and drop down to 195 or usually 190.I did bodybuilding principles.I looked like a bodybuilder but a not contested competitor looking like they're on steroids.I learned about grass fed meats from a UFC fighter who stated that his recovery was faster than a regular recovery due to grass fed food.He felt better and did his research on vegan and plus grass fed foods..My diet has changed a little.As of now I'm 181 in weight.I ate grass fed food and was able to drop down 173.I always feel better about myself when I eat healthy.Today I have an athletic build due to working out lightly and eating lots of green foods with very little grass fed meats.

[@stevenpaplan7154]

@@EmanualBAvery you almost bring a tear to my eye. I think your awesome. No one is perfect, and in no way could anyone (including myself) not have a way of improving there diet and overall health. What's important is that you at least limit things that can be harmful. I personally am a good cook. In 6 months I will have spent half my life cooking professionally. I've worked at a Michelin star restaurant where I cooked dry aged rib eye steaks for 160 dollars a plate. I know throw down when it comes to food. As a professional, I do believe I've had the privledge of having food so good, most people will never experience it in there lives. And I've had the privledge of being taught to cook by people who have cooked for kings. I feel so lucky and thankful to have these experiences. What it comes down to I believe, is we have to est for enjoyment. But theres so much more than just flavor. My priority when it comes to food, is to eat the most amount of food I can eat possibly and still feel really good when I'm done. I know how to cook a steak to perfection, but typically a meal for me is shoveling in rice, beans, and a veggie. I do believe meat has health benefits, but the cost is too great often. The leading dead weight lifter is a vegan guy that intermittently fasts. Very interesting person.

[@ynot4136]

Until the inflammation becomes noticeable.

[@EmanualBAvery]

No inflammation yet,but will keep a lookout 👀.So far so good,everything is fine.Thank you for sharing😎😊👍.

[@randythrockmorton7032]

I had two vegan and one vegetarian life long friends. They were awesome and didn’t push their views on anyone. I miss them, RIP.

[@scoop2448]

Funny. Too bad the less meat you eat, the longer you live.

[@akash098204]

Most people in India are vegetarians.. Duh.. Western food has no diversity. And i am a meat eater.

[@thePANDEMlC]

Unlike those meat eaters who literally kill for their views and push it everyone around them and harass anyone who doesn't eat their food.

[@tann_man]

scoop245 that’s such a twisted bad faith claim. The implication that meat consumption reduces life span is wholly untrue. The fact is the general population eats meat. The general population is not as health conscious as those who actively adopt a vegetarian life style. Vegetarians are not more healthy than health conscious omnivores

[@ThatThing1675]

@@scoop2448 Higher cholesterol is associated with longer life. And nothing boosts cholesterol more than a carnivorous based diet. Its unbelievable how the amount of soy deposits in your brain is making you spout this trash.

[@NinjaOnANinja]

No wonder he lost his competitiveness, he eats plants. He turned into prey. Oof. 😎

[@shawnpringle8191]

Joe, has become a rich intellectual. Yep, not everyone can afford to fly out 2 idaho and hunt bison with my rich hunter friends, really Joe? Money and fame make wackos of us all!

[@mikek8729]

But you can hunt within 10miles of any city, there are woods everywhere. Rabbits Deer Pheasant Fish Turkey.....etc. You dont hunt the volume to fill a grocery store. You dont waste the other things the animal provides. You dont have to glorify the kill, its a hard thing, it should be. Take what you need and no more....while being thankful and appreciative that you weren't the food today

[@brianmurphy5313]

So don't hunt animals. Eating dead animals not out of true necessity in indefensible in this place in time. Roll out the scroll of reasons to be 'vegan', and I'll check each and every one. Been 'vegetarian' for 26 years, 'vegan' for 15 years. It's a no-brainer. I'm 46 and look easily ten years younger. I swim a mile every day, do Pilates and calisthenics every day, ride my bike an average of 100 miles a week, etc etc - and I've been doing Brazilian jiu jitsu daily for nearly 20 years. "We need meat"... yawn.

[@TangoNevada]

@@mikek8729 For people that can do it, have the ability and access to hunting (However they obtained it) is fine. But it's impossible for 8 Billion People to survive that way. It's too late.

[@OrganicGreens]

@@brianmurphy5313 We only evolved for hundreds of thousands of years eating it... But i'm sure we don't need it tho...

[@ncrtrooper3841]

@@OrganicGreens dawg, look at our close relatives. You ever see a fucking gorilla eat meat? Plenty of primates are vegan.

[@va8658]

Love Jon. Creating meat in a labs and thinking it’s healthy 😖... still processed food. The food that grows from Mother Nature was designed for human (of course non-gmo) but we’re so disconnected we can’t see it but all other animals can. Eat a cow to get protein 🤦🏻‍♀️ and where does the cow get’s it’s protein? Grass!

[@immortalis1001]

I have been a 90% vegetarian 10% pescatarian (wild-caught only) for 15 years now. My staple is sprouted beans , rice (mostly sprouted brown) and big leafy greens salads with soaked almonds and walnuts. I work out regularly, 6' 3", 250 Ibs of pure muscle. People tell me that I look 10 years younger than I am. I assure you that I am not "bragging", just telling you that it is absolutely possible to be in peak performance without being 90% carnivore. Confession: I do have an unhealthy relationship with dark chocolate.

[@ericvutran4140]

@immortalis1001 Just KZbin'd sprouted beans and rice. Never knew about this. So you sprout them on your own? Do you buy them already sprouted?

[@immortalis1001]

@@ericvutran4140 I do this by myself, depending on the bean time takes between 3-5 days. Very, very easy and well worth the health benefits. have fun! :) EDIT: The reason that it is not a big deal is because I make large batches so I only sprout 1-2 every 2 months.

[@elmerbeltshire7599]

I grew up in a strict vegetarian household. I felt dramatically better when I went away to college and started eating meat. I've never turned back.

[@eulalia3446]

Please could you tell us more. Were you strictly plant based from weaning? What effects did the diet have on your health and development. What improved after eating meat? There are quite a few parents feeding their kids vegan - to me most of the children look sickly and malnourished.

[@elmerbeltshire7599]

@@eulalia3446 Breastfed after birth (which I agree with). On the health side, no refined sugars, artificial colors, flavors, or preservatives, no white flour. On the meat side it was more traditional vegetarianism, some milk and eggs, proteins at dinner were derived more from the legume, grain, tofu, nut combinations. I went away to college at age 20 and added chicken, red meat, and pork to my diet. I felt stronger, more energized, and less lethargic.

[@elmerbeltshire7599]

@XVX Well that would be my mom. Her parents lived into their mid 90's (they were not vegetarian), while she is in her mid 70's and has been a strict vegetarian for 40 years. She has already broken both hips in the past two years, and has osteoporosis much earlier than her mom did. I don't think she looks as healthy as my grandmother did at this age though she exercises daily. She takes vitamin supplements in addition to a very balanced diet and has done so the entire time. I've mentioned these concerns to my sister but its such a religion to my mom that I can't talk to her about it. Yes, my upbringing has made anti-vegetarianism and anti-veganism a bit of an activist issue for me. I do have serious concerns over the long-term effects.

[@eulalia3446]

@@elmerbeltshire7599 Thanks for sharing - very interesting to hear both your experience and your comment about your Mom's health. It sounds like some people can't fully thrive on even a well planned vegetarian (never mind vegan) diet. Do you have Northern European ancestry by any chance?

[@MetallicAddict15]

The problem with Joe's glorification of hunting and eating wild game as the go-to diet/lifestyle is that there aren't nearly enough wild animals out there to feed any substantial fraction of the world's population with this diet. That's one glaring hole in his ideology that he'll never address because there is no rebuttal for it.

[@dripllc5088]

So Rogan's hunting is okay but Jon's rescue farm is cruelty? Ok Joe..

[@jokerjacknicholson2472]

Problems not farming. its the competition and concern for profit that makes these farm prisons and poor feed, filthy conditions, antibiotics etc...

[@GreatNorthWeb]

Except for human farming. Humans must be maintained in quarantined boxes like factory chickens. Free Range humans just roam around in nature.

[@smashleyscott8272]

You're both stooges. Competition isn't a problem... the lack of competition is what creates these large corporate factory farms, and almost ALL of that is created by government intrusion into the market. Freedom for you, but not freedom for others, huh....???

[@SamuelMM_Mitosis]

Its impossible to consistently feed 8 billion people meat on a regular basis without factory farming, change my mind.

[@MeganLynnBlanchard]

Damn Jon looks physically ill and like he's aged about 20 years since going plant based.

[@michelleamatulle6378]

No he just aged like we all age. Eating plant based doesn’t turn back time lol we all age differently

[@MeganLynnBlanchard]

Michelle Amatulle No, aging that much in 5 years isn’t normal. I was plant based for a long time and I deteriorated on it, even with supplements and superfoods. If it works for you more power to you. That’s awesome, do what makes you feel good. But don’t think it’s one size fits all, it’s really unhealthy for some people, especially if they have autoimmune conditions.

[@1StepForwardToday]

@@MeganLynnBlanchard I agree that we all need to learn to listen to our own individual body. However, imo.. Theres a reason(s) why your body deteriorated on your plant based diet, but it's not because a plant based diet is unhealthy for you. There are many factors to consider in regards to the causes of your deteriorating health on a plant based diet. Did you regularly eat mostly whole foods, was it diverse, was it balanced, raw vs cooked, did you eat junk n processed foods along with it. Did you eat organic and non-GMO? Do you have underlying digestive issues such as IBS, Crohn's, SIBO, colitis, leaky gut, etc. ▪︎There is evidence that plant-based diets can benefit people with autoimmune diseases. Plus, both the AIP and anti-inflammatory diets also focus strongly on fruits and vegetables. If you have an autoimmune disease, you might find you tolerate vegetables better when they're cooked, though. A growing body of evidence indicates that a healthy plant-based diet can positively impact certain autoimmune diseases. In many cases, individuals report a significant reduction-or even total reversal-of autoimmune disease symptoms when they cut out meat and dairy. The right diet can help ease pain and heal autoimmune diseases. In general, avoid caffeine, alcohol, sugar, grains, dairy and red meat, and focus on fruits, vegetables, healthy fats and fish. Try these six foods to make living with autoimmune conditions easier.

[@adaesco]

Love joe but hes wrong here. Would love to see him have someone like earthling ed on for a debate

[@AA99086]

So eating wild healthy animals is the reason Joe's head is getting bigger and bigger :)

[@higler.]

bro he's eating ATHLETES

[@exponentmantissa5598]

My meat guilt came out big time when I went to South America and saw what was happening to the rain forest. 1000s of square miles chopped down for animal grazing and it only lasts a few years before the land is used up and then they cut down more trees. It is not sustainable for everyone to hunt or for our farms to continue to use up the planets resources. Imagine if every household in LA went out and killed a deer, there would be none left after the first year. There is no way that nature would survive if we all went out to the wild and harvested. Humans have thrown nature way out of balance, our lifestyle is doomed to failure without some major changes.

[@labbyshepherdpuppy5943]

exponent mantissa you get the same results if we mass produce crops for human consumption: unsustainablility. What’s actually happening is the problem of over consumption which is Conservation Biology 101 It’s not about food choice, it’s about how much we consume. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed

[@brent9393]

China is buying and investing in South America for soybeans. Why tofu..

[@jd0604]

To be honest...palm oil is a huge factor too.

[@johnathonlivingston7573]

Seems like hunters are usually poor rural people or affluent. Hunting isn’t an accessible avenue for food for most people living in urban areas.

[@TheFreshPeddler]

Depends what you're hunting.

[@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies]

Plus you pretty much need to know someone with a lot of land who will let you hunt on it. There are public hunting areas but unless you want to drive 2-3 hours into bfe and hunt for a couple days it's pretty much pointless.

[@jaycvu]

Stick to the grocery store runs, please. With one hunting trip, I can get food for an entire year.

[@shanemeasor5474]

Livingstone seagull good book

[@o6uoq]

Joe “you’re eating an athlete” Rogan

[@pearlgirl5643]

I’m plant-based (I don’t like to say vegan because it’s so strict) but I do eat no meat, dairy or eggs and really appreciate Jon’s non-judgemental attitude because I never try to force my dietary/lifestyle habits on others or shame them for theirs. Some people say they don’t feel healthy without meat; who am I to judge?

[@SD-zx1uh]

Awesome! Went vegan in 2017 after seeing the truth in how the meat/dairy industry affects our health, the trillions of animals killed in factory farming every day, and climate change/environment. I feel amazing and will never go back to the typical American diet. What the documentaries on Netflix such as Game Changers, What the Health, Forks over Knives, Dominion and Earthlings....they will change your life!

[@cblaskoski]

John Stewart leaves a lot of sentences unfinished and moves on to the next uh like there's a point he's about to finish and it's like it never just he never really gets to the uh, and then um.

[@The_Gallowglass]

He's an old Jew though. It's alright. :D

[@shaunr5450]

Because Veganism deprives the brain of what it needs.

[@lorissupportguides]

@@shaunr5450 the brain needs carbohydrates.

[@brittaneybrownrigg5096]

Wrong. Brain needs fat and protein.

[@xONYXo1]

Brittaney Brownrigg how do you figure? Brain runs on glucose exclusively. Besides, those are both things you can get on a vegan diet just fine

[@davidmcintosh263]

Alot of people would eat very differently if they had to look at their food in the eye before they ate it.

[@jeremybell1607]

I'd have no issues knocking you off...and I wouldn't even eat you.

[@TheSonsofHorusx]

Johns right on those vegans who just eat lays chips. I was technically a vegan for a few years because I just ate dry cereals and diet coke, I thought that was like the ultimate diet at the time too!

[@stevenpaplan7154]

I mean, I've been vegan for 10 years and dont eat processed food at all typically. To me a healthy vegan diet is plant based and whole food. If your not eating real whole food, that's bad. But someone that lives off snacks, vegan mac and cheese, and fake meet products does not reflect veganism at all. In fact, your probably not gonna be able to be vegan if you eat that way. But yeah, I'm 31 I haven't been sick a day since I turned vegan. I honestly don't know anyone my age with my energy.

[@joshua6207]

I have been eating meat 3 times a week my whole life and haven't got sick in 3 years

[@libster9631]

You ate junk food vegan. Whole food plant based is no processed foods!

[@ErinThePsychicWitch]

The God of Hentai - Guy Fieri why would you think that’s the ultimate diet?

[@joshbono7455]

The God of Hentai - Guy Fieri exactly. Being a vegan IS the process of not eating any animal products, but it’s also eating a grocery list full of fruits, vegetables, beans, legumes, grains, seeds, and even fake meats. Just do some looking around, cause there are so many amazing recipies that are very simple to do. My favorite is a chili with black beans, red kidney beans, corn, garbanzo beans, pinto beans, tomato sauce, and some spices. I eat it with rice to get my complete proteins, and it’s amazing. It’s a really good filler too

[@John-Adams-Can]

Soylent Green is people!

[@ronchojohnson2869]

Soy princess Jon Stewart playing useful idiot to the global elites plan to force people into rationing meat. While increasing the worlds consumption of meal worms and beetles and crickets to replace cattle meat protein.

[@findingsolutions198]

Waiting for this comment

[@AerysTMD]

Soy militants: Meat is bad! Factory farming is bad! China (anything that breaths is meat to us): Say what? Soy militants: Sorry master. Kindly disregard what we said. Please don't defund us.

[@barrysmith5189]

And completely fictional

[@SmartDumbNerdyCool]

@Roy CHELLEMI 44 people from yesterday think otherwise

[@designthinkingwithgian]

There's amazing vegeterian food out there! If American simply had more OPTIONS...there would be less meat eating demand. Keep an open mind folks!

[@higler.]

There are options for everything. Lack of options is not the issue, the issue is lack of inner reflection and lack of care. All you gotta do is buy the plant based version right next to the dead animals version, if that's what you care about.

[@toris5605]

America has way more vegan options than other countries!

[@montanamanculich7188]

everyone on this planet should be required to watch this clip right here! GREAT CONVERSATION!

[@NaturalHypertrophy]

Sverige is about to make a video on Jon Stewart's accelerated aging caused by his plant-based diet and rack up 1M views, calling it now

[@LukeKoun]

@John Smith wtf lmao

[@LewisSharpe-fc6iw]

I did not even recognize John and I watched him for the last couple decades he has really aged and not like a fine wine

[@MrKiron12]

Is that the guy who ate spoiled meat

[@Veganphobic]

John Smith dude looks healthy compared to vegan gains and this guy that’s for damn sure

[@MrKiron12]

Vegan Phobic he has a receding hairline

[@barbourX]

Just once, I would like a hunter to be honest and say... "I do get a thrill from killing another animal". I believe all the other reasons joe lays out, but I'm sure there is an aspect of the hunt that hunters get a rush during the kill. That is a big reason they hunt. Don't lie to yourself.

[@mrmustard4478]

Really. I believe his reasoning too, but a big percentage of why people like hunting is domination. Domination over something they, most of the time, naturally (without a gun) wouldn't stand a chance at killing.

[@timluke8933]

Nothing better than Killin a moose and feeding your family for 6 months. The hunt is fun, but the relationship with nature is better.

[@davidcadavergagne1198]

Hunting is a lot more work and preparation than most people think, so of course when you finally get the ''fruits'' of your hard labor there's a rush of adrenaline and satisfaction coming in. Back in the days tribes would throw down a big ass party for a kill. Are you happy the moose is dead? I dont think so. Are you happy that prepping your hunting grounds for weeks then covering yourself in bull piss, then walking around in the woods or hiding for days in a cache actually paid off? Oh hell yeah! And now you got your freezer full of good well earned meat and you can avoid the factory farmed crap to feed yourself and your familly, + it didn't cost much money and it makes you feel like a provider.

[@immefcku1757]

Sure you get a thrill because you accomplished what you set out to do..But along with the thrill comes alot of work..Or you can take it to a butcher and pay to have it cut up..which to alot of people is cheating the experience.. pulling the trigger or slinging a arrow is the easiest part.. everything before that and after that is the hardest part..your shooting something to eat your not shooting it because you hate it's existence..for instance I have a garden..I get much bigger thrill out of killing a ground hog or a crow that I don't eat that's trying to eat my garden then any deer.. because I don't have to do anything but pull a trigger...I might shoot 2 deer a year and probably 8garden critters...and my garden is only a half acre..if life is life alot more is lost over growing vegetables than people ever consider..

[@thebeasters]

The hunters I know sit in stands and gun them down in a ravine at the only water source on the property. Sounds super exciting getting up at 2 a.m. for that but I think I'll pass. Totally pro hunting, totally pro-gun rights, and a huge meat eater, it's just boring to me that's all. I do have one friend who's a bowhunter and it's quite impressive his stories and feats so I do respect that

[@khalled2419]

It’s funny when Joe likes to repeat his fav arguments like for example the “animals u hunt are athletes” which he’s said many times and Jon replies with the “alright alright alright”

[@drestarman]

Empathy for animals is the glitch in Joe’s Rogan brain.

[@adampower9757]

@@drestarman lol

[@LAductions]

drestarman right??

[@c6q3a24]

@@drestarman Why? Do you have no respect for the crops that feed you? Why should a carnivore or omnivore be any different?

[@drestarman]

Alexander simple answer sentience

[@GlennMarshallnz]

Purely from a health perspective. Jon 57 years old. Whole food plant based diet. Looks lean, fit and healthy. Jo 52 years old. Hunter based diet. Overweight and bloated with poor skin tone. Many people from westernised countries would say Jon looks scrawny, because we are so used to seeing overweight people, as they make up 2/3 of the population.

[@fritagonia]

When you give an animal a name, they suddently became an individual, a living sentient being, they are not just meat. It really changes your perspective.

[@najbrzi28]

John Stewart for president!!!!!!!😊❤👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MilaDanceSport]

Joe, can you please have Earthling Ed on your show!

[@akash_goel]

I would fear for Eds life. What if he gets KO'ed by Joe if Ed brings out the hypocrisy in all his arguments?

[@CrayolaCoffeeBean]

I love how you guys are talking about this... it’s a very well rounded view of CLEAN plant based or an omnivore diet and educating ourselves on more than just the basics we always hear about.

[@tann_man]

what exactly is a CLEAN plant based or omnivore diet? what makes a food “dirty”?

[@faychel8383]

Nick Tann food that clogs the arteries isn’t clean

[@CrayolaCoffeeBean]

Nick Tann good question! CLEAN would be whole, natural foods like simply cooked vegetables, tubers, beans, or raw fruits and nuts (as opposed to processed plants that are turned into fake meat patties, deep fried, etc.) and meats that come from sources where the animals are fed higher quality foods, don’t live in their own feces, and aren’t injected with hormones and antibiotics. These things can lead to disease, tumors, genetic mutations that people end up consuming 😝

[@cookhousehero]

It's a great step to discuss personal stories and experiences.. next is doing a deep dive into plants, farms, climate, the FDA subsidies, pandemic links to animals, evidence based science, etc. Great starting points: nutritionfacts.org and pcrm.org... films: Cowspiracy and Forks Over Knives. Soooooo many more. Education is key, so let's not stop at "I don't really know about XYZ". Find out! The info has been public for DECADES.

[@edcooper1422]

Should get Dr Greger on....would love to see that....

[@aryinc]

depends is he one of those biased vegan docters??.