Jonah and the Upside-Down World.

[@JonathanPageau]

Telling of the story starts at 01:13 Interpretation starts at 08:23 For the image of Jonah on apparel: teespring.com/shop/Jonah-color2 For the Jonah image as a print: fineartamerica.com/featured/jonah-and-the-sea-monster-jonathan-pageau.html

[@vansantosdaddy]

@Jonathan Pageau You may already know this, but just in case here is an addition to your already favorite story. Jonah's name in Hebrew is יונה and it literally means dove. As you know, the dove is a symbol for the Holy Spirit. When Yeshua (Jesus) came out of the waters of baptism the dove descended from heaven and rested upon Him (the Holy Spirit) and then lead Him to the desert to be tempted by Satan. My point is that the message Jonah gave to Nineveh in human understanding was very poor and biased because he didn't really want Nineveh to repent, but when the Holy Spirit reaches out to people and they recognize it, then repentance is almost inevitable unless the people harden their hearts. Jonah didn't save the city my friend. He tried his hardest to do the opposite, but when we are convicted by the Spirit, the it doesn't matter how awkward the messenger is... God's Word doesn't return void.

[@Robbya10]

Hey Jonathan, I was meditating last night and i felt these symbols and patterns speaking to me. I was pondering revelation, earlier in the day I had listened to Mohammad hijab who had spoken of how Jesus in revelation is described as a warlord. And it made me think, what if revelation is a prophecy that is meant to make us all false prophets? What If the point of the story is for us to remember how much we all have in common and to strive to avoid needing Christ to return and lay waste to evil. I believe he wants all the monotheistic religions to unite against atheism and avoid total destruction of our city.

[@Robbya10]

I came up with the acronym goop haha guaranteed opposite outcome prophecy

[@MrCRACKINSKULLZ]

I like the carelessness but simultaneous honesty of this Jonah guy.

[@lastni]

Its also why he is my favorite bible protagonist, such a root of a man with inherent transparency of his thoughts and honesty and i think god himself found thay part of him charming

[@yourwisdomtooth5938]

Yo based?

[@jordanheath5258]

Great point xD

[@andrew9800]

I just realized that the "fish" depicted in the iconography of Jonah is the same beast that is swallowing people in the icon of the Last Judgement 🤯

[@papercut7141]

"But he replied to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves a sign. Yet no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah" 😳

[@antoniocoppola3185]

@@papercut7141 mindblowing

[@jonersauce]

@@papercut7141 what verse is this please

[@papercut7141]

@@jonersauce Matthew 12:39

[@jonersauce]

@@papercut7141 thank you

[@corettaha7855]

Jonah is my favorite prophet. He struggles with what we do: having to do right by his enemies whom he doesn’t even like for the Lord’s sake.

[@alisaruddell3484]

The symbol of “the garments of skin” is endlessly fruitful, it’s showing up everywhere... now in the fish and in the city. I’m familiar with Jonah, but I hadn’t perceived the connection before. Thank you, Jonathan!

[@timfiles4842]

i love this word fruitful

[@lnb29]

The aspect I still appreciate the most in the story is its strong Prodigal Son elder versus younger son vibes. God was reaching for the foreigner, which is what people that love the house too much can never easily accept. Jonah was willing to feel sorry for a tree before feeling sorry for people outside the house

[@CarlCallmer]

There is something very funny about someone naively demanding their own death. "I am just gonna lay down and die over here"

[@corettaha7855]

He was having a rough day. It can’t be easy when the lord saves your enemies just because they repent.

[@xjmg007]

I feel this ha..

[@animula6908]

Of everyone in the Old Testament, I relate to Jonah. The ingratitude, the desire to watch other humans suffer but wanting yourself to be delivered, the doing the opposite of what the Lord commands, not even being surprised when it brings down disaster upon yourself and everyone around you. Above everyone but Christ, and maybe Peter and Paul, Jonah gives me hope. If such a man can still be called by God then a sinner like me can too. I love my symbolic world Jonah tshirt too. May we all remember our blessings and be grateful.

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

I never noticed how Jonah fled to Tarshish, which is St Paul’s final destination in his ministry.

[@Dagfari]

"Tarshish" in the OT is often a euphemism for "Somewhere far away" the way we today use Timbuktu or Upper Musqueduboit

[@omglolzbbqsauce]

Jonathan "Doesn't know the difference between his left and right hand" Pageau 25:50

[@jamesrossi1910]

Symbolism happens again

[@sjl5187]

Also, the worm that destroys the tree is similar to the snake in the garden, which reminds me of a concept I heard about in a video on Christian Italian paintings----artists would include creatures such as snails and worms in the margins of the paintings in order to exemplify Jesus by contrasting with him. I wonder if the worm is actually a caterpillar, which would suggest not only destruction (since caterpillars consume plants) but also subsequent transformation (crucifixion then resurrection & ascension). Caterpillar would make more sense because earthworms and maggots aren't found in trees.

[@JonathanPageau]

Yes, I realized I forgot to mention that as soon as I finished recording... good catch for the worm. Not sure about caterpillar... maybe... snakes already shed their old skin.

[@parkerscottmusic]

WHY DOES EVERYONE TALK IN RIDDLES IM JJST TRYNA FIGURE IT OUT AHHHH

[@VRI]

twenty one pilots' jumpsuit & leave the city MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW Tyler Joseph truly is a genius

[@brizbizel]

I somehow always regarded Jonah as the righteous without love, law without spirit of the law... maybe that's why even when he moves "up" into the light and spirit his mind still plays the dominant role and perhaps that's why he wants to die. The destruction of the city seems to him as the right thing to do and when reality (God) contradicts his mind, he is rendered useless, there is no meaning to his existence anymore... Uniting Love and Law in one person is a hard thing to achieve but maybe only then we start to perceive what Justice is. One without the other is torment...and we can definitely see that Jonah was tormented.

[@TheTealTurtle]

Thank you!!

[@buckanderson3520]

God is so amazing that regardless of how far we fall all that we have to do is call out to Him to experience His love.

[@theoneoutofnazareth]

Great video JP, I love your work. I feel I’ve always had a natural inclination towards symbolic thinking but felt I never quite fit in at any of my Protestant church experiences. The Orthodox world has welcomed me with open arms and I finally found my native habitat! Thank you for your work and dedication to Holy Scripture and Tradition. God bless you and make His face shine on you!

[@PraetorClaudius]

Great stuff as always Jonathan, Thank you.

[@ramonbenedito728]

Such a delight to listen to you Jonathan... I go through your material over and over (same with Matthew’s incredible book). Thank you and much love 😘

[@buckanderson3520]

I think about the story of Jonah in the context of the end times. It seems to be suggesting that there is still hope for the world. I think about all the people, children, and animals that will suffer. God loves them all and does not want them to perish. And as Jonah was rebuked for wanting Nineveh to be destroyed we should not wish for the world to be destroyed.

[@danielseleguim]

I once had a dream in which Jonah (the name) was constantly brought up... it happened in the most difficult time of my life, when I was in the process of trying to save my marriage while my wife at the time was just doing whatever she could to ruin it... I woke up and didn't even remember about the biblic history of Jonah until some days later... I took my bible, read the story, and went to the internet looking for interpretations of it an how I could put it in the context of my life at the time... To me, it was about enduring the path ahead of me and understanding that I must do the "right thing" and accept the outcome, whatever it was going to be... or, in other words, it was about accepting that sometimes we are just the God's tool to something we might not want or understand, and fighting this is meaningless... Thanks for the video, Jonathan - like all the others, it is fascinating!

[@hesternoronha1]

Can u please let us know if you did save ur marriage ?

[@danielseleguim]

​@@hesternoronha1 no, I did not - but I walked out of it knowing that I did everything I could to save it, so I have no regrets and I don't feel resentful or bitter about myself... If I have walked away of it earlier - as I should - I would probably feel today that things could have been different had I not given up... So, I did not give up; it didn't work but I feel absolutely in peace, knowing that I did what God - through the vows we exchanged - asked me to do...

[@Carlos-sr8km]

@@danielseleguim Rejoice Marriage Ministries

[@Thomas...191]

I would put money on our good host here having a liking for Tom Waits. He has so many songs with these themes.

[@iandavies2298]

Getting close to 100k subs Jonathan, congratulations!

[@Erthradar]

Jonah was always my favorite too. I always volunteer to read it on Holy Saturday. Chanting the question at the end is always a challenge.

[@Daxkalak]

Bonjour. A main symbol of the Jonah story to me is the act of sackcloth and ashes. When I heard that part of the story for the first time, I pictured the King of Nineveh and all his citizens sitting humbly on the streets of the city covered in rags and black ashes.

[@logoimotions]

the sailors were themselves like Jonah. They refused to listen , tried to struggle and in the end had to give in before the calm

[@jonneil3086]

I have listened and read so much commentary on Jonah. So many people say “Don’t be like Jonah” completely miss Jonah the “false prophet” was also the most powerful prophet to bring the most feared city to its knees. This power came to him at the bottom of the ocean when he remembered God as you so eloquently explain. God brings repentance to the nation that had wiped out Israel the northern kingdom. It’s the kindness of God that bring men to repentance.

[@lnb29]

God is powerful. Jonah was but his servant. Repentance brought the city to its knees, as you said it yourself by the end. I don't think we're saved to be "powerful like Jonah", but to be humbled as he was.

[@MJsholocron]

18:14 - resentment and bitternes - fragmentation to death remembering your origin, what you recieved, then you mentain your wholeness.

[@thebealers2102]

I love your work, thanks so much

[@JasonShermanYouTube]

This is beautiful.

[@seekingthetruth5972]

Very good man. I sincerely enjoyed this. thorough enough to hold true, and obvious enough to dig deeper myself. Thank you greatly sir! Praise The Most High

[@patriothippie5881]

Hello, is there a title for the painting used in your avatar ? Thanks

[@adamvalentino3295]

Love that Picture..Nice place of Art!

[@johnmattison1209]

Getting the hands wrong while explaining that they couldnt tell the difference between the right hand and the left hand should not have been corrected. It demonstrated the idea better

[@windyday8598]

right on!! you are the first person i have heard tell the story correctly. jonah did not tell them to repent. he said what God told him to say, and they repented in hope that God may relent, and not destroy them. and yes, yes, yes, jonah was made to look like a false prophet. excellent, he was most concerned with his own reputation. awesome how the lord disciplines and teaches us to mature as he uses us for his purpose. cheers!

[@academiabocault]

Oi! Saudações do Brasil. Obrigada :)

[@kennyblobbin]

Amazing. Beautiful. 🙏🏼 Thankyou.

[@acemanhomer1]

Thank you for sharing the story of Jonah. I think I needed to hear that.

[@acemanhomer1]

Happy Thanksgiving... peAce.

[@lynnlavoy6778]

This story reminds me of sabotage archetype, however the history of that word is post industral revolutionary. This video gave me insight, thank you

[@brandnew4451]

God does have a sense of humour 😂 poor Johan, I could picture a movie with Nick Cage playing Johan.

[@TheTealTurtle]

Thank you so much!!

[@darasto2023]

any plans on doing a symbolic interpratation of the tv show Dark by any chance? Seems perfect for your content!

[@shawnfreemasonog]

I doubt it. Jonathan is not a pop culture commentator. He only talks about it enough so that people can relate and understand he is in the same world as them.

[@ronishchaudhary]

That series is just dripping with symbolism. There’s so much in it!

[@lGalaxisl]

Quite happy to see a video dedicated to Jonah! Read this story quite a few times so looking forward to having a deeper understanding of it :)

[@dannybbolt]

Perhaps the best video of yours I've seen

[@calsamuelson]

Profound! Thank you.

[@bobthrasher8226]

Having a messenger show up from a fish would be rather convincing!

[@omiorahman6283]

does drawing fish symbols during roman times count?

[@ibelieve3111]

Thanks

[@tedclemens4093]

I liked it when you related the story directly to Jesus as the "clown/outcast" and "false prophet." Yes! Skip the right and wrong biases to just follow the patterns, and this "sign of Jonah" becomes an "Inside Baseball" view into Creation and Salvation-with "the firstborn of many" leading the way to be fished from the sea (Matt. 4:19). God explaining himself (John 15:15).

[@StephensCrazyHour]

Jonah is probably my favourite story of the old testament. He's a protagonist that is very easy to identify with. He's been tasked by God to go to the heart of the enemy of his people and tell them they're going to die. He probably personally hates the city of Ninevah and would certainly be fearing for his life. I'm pretty sure I would want to run too. Then he's proven false because the people of Ninevah repented, which makes him even more upset. And then God schools him in how much God cares about all people with the example of the vine. The story ends in such a way as to let the reader/listener to ponder how they should react to all of this. It's an amazing story that works on so many levels. It's unfortunate that the mainstream perception of this story is that it's simply about a man swallowed by a whale.

[@Future_looksbright]

I always thought the part where it says “couldn’t tell their left hand from the right” was referring to the children and possibly the ignorance/innocence related to them

[@beateifarta]

Thank you for sharing this! I have long been fascinated with the midrash version of this story. There, Jonah has already had another task from God. Almost the same as with Ninnive, but then the city was Jerusalem (!). There also the people repented and nothing happened. After that Jonah was made into a laughing stock of the other prophets, and called a false prophet. He did not want to be made a fool of once more, that was why he tried to escape. Wesley Jones in his book What the Bible says about people of other faiths makes a point of the people of Ninnive not repenting in a Jewish manner, but in their own religious customs. Their god was not considered the god of Israel, and they are not becoming Jews, they are not leaving their own religion behind. They are not only foreigners, they are also of another belief.

[@chonkerbonkers5496]

I am very much inspired by your artwork

[@lisaonthemargins]

That's fascinating and difficult to wrap my head around

[@4truthlovefaith]

Excellent! Thank you!

[@drewcochran4197]

Wow, thanks for this video!

[@kwall1464]

Thanks!

[@svetlanalaurenbirthisel7461]

I was taught that the animals around the throne in Revelation were not only representative of the four evangelists, but also symbolic of Creation. Isn’t “... and also much cattle...” not only redeeming the dead skins but part of the redemption of Creation? I mean, when we look at the icon of Theophany Christ goes down into the Jordan (the flood) and the waters flow backwards renewing the fallen world.

[@oneangelbug]

"driven away from Your Sight" - like the scapegoat

[@homemdosaco2000]

I find it interesting that the prophecy was unconditional. In portuguese and also in king james' version, the word used is not destroyed, but overthrown. When the king repented, the Lord became king. Of course, had he not repented, the outcome would be different, but the city was overthrown either way.

[@deBarnik]

I just realized that Shinji Ikari is Jonah.

[@theauntless]

Huh

[@MT-ho8zq]

There is another meaning of the fish throwing up Jonah. This happens only after Jonah repents and humbles down. The belly of the monster fish (hell) cannont hold this within itself, repentance means connection to God, and that is poison for hell. It is a prophecy of Christ being swallowed by hell in death, as Christ Himself tells us in Mathew 12:40. On a much larger cosmic scale, hell will also "spit out" Christ, as He was poison to its belly.

[@c_3116]

Thanks, Jonathan, you've helped me understand a lot about many Biblical concepts- recently it has given me a few ideas about Jewish customs as well. I have a few incomplete and slightly disconnected thoughts, which I've written below. It may well be that I'm severely mistaken or even dangerously wrong about one or all of these, so I welcome criticism. Adding to the Garden of Eden symbolism is the part where the ship's crew cast lots- this is an allusion to the story of Esther, and the festival of Purim (lots). Jews read the story of Jonah on the Day of Atonement, which is called Yom Kippurim in Hebrew, but another way to read it is Yom Ki-Purim, meaning 'Day which is like Purim'. This seems incredible at first, because there couldn't be more difference between the two on face value: - On Yom Kippur, we fast, but on Purim we feast. - On Yom Kippur the High Priest would pronounce God's name, but in the story of Esther, God's name is not mentioned. - On Yom Kippur we wear plain white clothes, but on Purim we wear funny costumes and masks. But there is something deeper about the festival of Purim, beneath the masks. There is an interesting custom on Purim to drink alcohol until one forgets who was the good guy and who was the bad guy in the Story of Esther (this isn't really practiced by most people!). This might be like going back to before the tree of knowledge so that we become like Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, the aim of increased holiness being to get back to that time when we were closer to God by nature, not only by choice. We necessarily had to leave that state where we were 'at one', but one day we will return. This is the meaning of the Hebrew word for repentance: 'Teshuvah' - returning. Right now it is the festival of Sukkot, Tabernacles. Shortly after Yom Kippur, we leave our homes and go into a temporary dwelling made from natural materials with leaves for the roofing...

[@markschmitz5038]

Deep.

[@MHAFOOTBALL]

We read the whole book of Jonah on Holy Saturday morning in Orthodoxy.

[@vansantosdaddy]

@Jonathan Pageau You may already know this, but just in case here is an addition to your already favorite story. Jonah's name in Hebrew is יונה and it literally means dove. As you know, the dove is a symbol for the Holy Spirit. When Yeshua (Jesus) came out of the waters of baptism the dove descended from heaven and rested upon Him (the Holy Spirit) and then lead Him to the desert to be tempted by Satan. My point is that the message Jonah gave to Nineveh in human understanding was very poor and biased because he didn't really want Nineveh to repent, but when the Holy Spirit reaches out to people and they recognize it, then repentance is almost inevitable unless the people harden their hearts. Jonah didn't save the city my friend. He tried his hardest to do the opposite, but when we are convicted by the Spirit, the it doesn't matter how awkward the messenger is... God's Word doesn't return void.

[@letruweldonothsa2622]

When you spoke about Cain and Rome it reminded me of something. Is there a connection between Peter and Paul and Romulus and Reamus as founders of Rome?

[@codemancz798]

No wonder it's your favorite story, Jonah is three letters away from Jonathan. The surname Pageau even means servant.

[@Mike.....]

Abarim: There's something deeply peculiar about the name Jonah. Pretty much all sources derive it of the root יון, and render the name Dove./ The name Jonathan consists of two elements. The first part is יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which is the commonly accepted abbreviated form of יהוה, which is YHWH, the Name of the Lord. The second part of the name Jonathan comes from the verb נתן (natan), meaning to give www.abarim-publications.com/NaLi/A-MaleBig.html#.X4MxuNkza1s

[@copyninja8756]

yeah thats why

[@jamememes4114]

"So, the humor continues [...]; here is Jonah as trash on the side of the sea." :laughing_while_crying_emoji:

[@haraldwolte3745]

I thought the reference to not knowing right from left was a reference to children, or the innocent

[@JonJaeden]

Jonah ben Amittai was a prophet in the Northern Kingdom of Israel during, or possibly prior, to the reign of Jeroboam II. 2 Kings 14:23-29 notes that he accurately prophesied the restoration of Israel's boundaries. In that passage, and connected to Jonah's fulfilled prophecy, we're also told: "The Lord had seen how bitterly everyone in Israel, whether slave or free, was suffering; there was no one to help them. And since the Lord had not said he would blot out the name of Israel from under heaven, he saved them by the hand of Jeroboam son of Jehoash." While I'm not convinced by the symbolic interpretation of the Jonah story, I found it interesting and enriching. I'm wondeing if it is reflected in any way in the historic passage from 2 Kings 14. I note the idea that Jonah feared being a failed prophet whose words would not be fulfilled against his successful prophecy back at home. Also, the juxtaposition of God's threat against Ninevah followed by mercy, and God's mercy to Israel without a threat. For what it's worth, Gath-hepher, Jonah's hometown, would have been known to Jesus. It is located about 5 miles northeast of Nazareth and Jesus would have passed by the town while going from Nazareth to Capernaum on the Sea of Galilee.

[@omiorahman6283]

beautiful

[@davidhoffman6980]

Do you think that Jonah sleeping in the belly of the ship is foreshadowing him being dead in the belly of the wale?

[@rathernotsay8510]

Jonah died in the belly of the whale. Typology for the death of Jesus Christ. Dead for 3 days.

[@hegel5816]

Loved it.... subscribed...!!!!💓☦️✝️

[@j2b348]

What is the relationship of Peter and Jonah to the city of Joppa?

[@todormia]

Thank you brother for your video lectures! May I ask you to share with me the icon of Jonah with wale where the Christ is in the sun? I saw it on your wall. My wife is an icon painter, and we would like to have a reproduction on our wall. Is it a canonic one, or did you organised the space? Greetings from orthodox Serbia!

[@shadowbody]

Hm, also reminds me of link with 1st and 2nd beast. The fish: first beast and Jonah: second beast.

[@logoimotions]

Just listening to John 4 at the moment. JC asks the samaritan women for water and later says if you had know who you were asking you might have asked for living water. what does this mean in the context of falling into these waters. Need to think on this.

[@mikebaker2436]

17:08 This particular symbolic pattern repeats itself a third time in the synoptic gospels as a perfected synthesis. 1. Innocent Noah passively rides out the flood in the ark that destroys the world... both people and animals perish. 2. Guilty Jonah is asleep in the boat heading to foreign lands when a storm of judgement arises and the crew is distressed. Jonah is sacrificed to the sea to passify the storm. Jonah then calls Nineveh to repentance where even the animals fast. Everything avoids desctruction in God's mercy. 3. Innocent Christ becomes sin for us (Noah and Jonah together). Christian baptism instituted by Christ was prefigured by the flood of Noah (1 Peter 3:20-22). He is asleep in the boat heading to foreign lands when the storm comes (Mark 4; Luke 8). The disciples are distressed and powerless like Jonah's crew. Jesus rises from sleep and calms the storm with His words. The disciples are amazed. They reach the land of the foreigners. Christ drives the legion from the demoniac, authorizing the possessing demons to drive unclean animals into the sea to drown. The healed man wishes to follow Christ. In the Luke account, the locals are frightened like Nineveh, but instead of repentance they send Christ away. Christ eventually completes Jonah's death in the sea ("the sign of the prophet Jonah" Luke 11:29-32) through His 3 day death and resurrection where He enters the bowls of the primordial serpent and tramples down death by death.

[@Dan-yy6tt]

The veggietales version is so good

[@liviatomi]

hello jonathan. thank you for this work, it is very good, clear and dense in content. i'd like to ask if you could spare a few words on the symbolism of the fish? why is it a fish, not any other being? does it relate to other passages where fish is involved? thank you, livia

[@t.l.ciottoli4319]

Thank you Jonathan. God be with you.

[@ronishchaudhary]

Jonathan, could the left/right hand, order/chaos, good/evil, inhale/exhale, etc reference be about rising above the duality? We’re called to climb beyond both so that we can realise and understand the necessity of both. Heads and tail cannot exist without the other but when united in purpose, the coin can buy bread.

[@debbieculley7532]

This is the great lie of Satan and his band of fallen angels. Jesus said: "24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6:24 (KJV) God bless you in Christ Jesus.

[@Bibbzter666]

Yes. Rise above!

[@theauntless]

@ronishchaudhary That is the great temptation. Christianity doesn't have a dualistic view of good and evil. They are not "equal" or mutually "dependent". Evil is a corruption of the Good , a negation of Being, it doesn't have a substance in and of itself.

[@debbieculley7532]

That is Satan's work trying to mirror what God has already done. He is the Father of all lies. He is fooling the masses. God created angels to protect and help guide humans. However, one of them rebelled because he was jealous of the humans, and was thrown down to Earth, along with 1/3 of the other angels along with him. They are now ruling the Earth at the present time. However, God, in his immense mercy and love for Humans, sent down his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, as an offering for our sins, so that we may have everlasting life with him in Paradise. I know this for a fact, because I have felt his presence, and have actually seen it as a child when I was sick with a fever at 10 years old. A very bright golden yellow white light entered my room. I immediately felt immersed in an intense feeling of unconditional love, peace, and bliss, unlike anything I have ever known. So, I know this exists and is real. I am trying to tell people they need to listen and know the story of Jesus is true and to listen and acknowledge his teachings and get saved now, before it's too late. For more videos about what is really happening, please visit my facebook page. facebook.com/debbieculley1

[@annoybot]

@8:12 You forgot the blessed elements

[@ja_aq.ov_]

19:59 a little error in interpretation: a prophet is no oracle or soothsayer; that his prophecy does not come to pass, is not a slight against him. A prophet is to be heeded, not used to tell the future. Edit: I should note: - Jonah did in fact fear being called a false prophet by the idolators of Nineveh ("And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country?") -- he suspected this would happen! And yet, we recognize him as a prophet.

[@JonathanPageau]

"If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously." Deut 18:22

[@ja_aq.ov_]

@@JonathanPageau the two issues here are, "Nineveh will be overthrown" (nekhpakhet, rather than destroyed nekhrabet), along with more important the recognition: that Jonah is a prophet! His prophecy was attributed to God/gods (elohim), as even at the end they were unrepentant idolators, whereas the Deuteronomical statement was with respect to those statements made in the name of G-d (the tetragram)

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

My son is called Jonah.😍

[@marvalice3455]

I often times cannot tell my left hand from my right ;-;

[@omiorahman6283]

make something about Ichthys

[@cuthbertsboots5733]

What is the symbolism of the Ninevites slapping people with fish?

[@williambeaumont1312]

Jonah knew that God would forgive the people of Nineveh and he wouldn’t do what he said he was going to do. Jonah headed to Tarshish because he knew if he prophesied the destruction of Nineveh and then God didn’t do it, then Jonah’s reputation as a prophet would be ruined. He would be mocked as a false prophet. The Ninevites worshiped a fish god, so When the giant fish coughed Jonah up on the beach at Nineveh the people were shocked and said, “This guy is serious. We better hear what he has to say..

[@JoachimMuratsGhost]

Jonah didn't admit right away that his God's anger was the reason for the storm. The sailors drew lots and he drew the short law, implicating him. "The sailors said to one another, ‘Come, let us cast lots, so that we may know on whose account this calamity has come upon us.’ So they cast lots, and the lot fell on Jonah."

[@mutedplum465]

More on Jonah here for those interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4jcen-rjKiFhZI

[@shanefife5639]

So Jonah is the first Tenet.

[@JonathanPageau]

That is hilarious. I actually debated whether I would mention Tenet in the video.

[@tarheelcatholic3394]

@@JonathanPageau what is a tenet?

[@tarheelcatholic3394]

What is a tenet?

[@blaizewood1871]

nice

[@dennisfowler3860]

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[@shotinthedark90]

It's interesting that Jonah doesn't tell them to repent because the text doesn't explicitly say what God told him to prophesy. It also doesn't say that God makes him a false prophet. Jonah is angry, not because he's been made a false prophet, but because he knew that God would forgive them if they repented when they heard his message. It's one of the textual arguments against a classical understanding of God's exhaustive foreknowledge. Either Jonah is a false prophet (which is reading something into the text), or God lied that he was going to destroy the city (which he can not do), or God's plan of destruction is contingent upon the response of the hearer (which is the open theist position we are told is heretical but is the only viable alternative, if we are not reading things in to the text).

[@DinoRamzi]

More obviously, how can an unchanging God change his mind?

[@shotinthedark90]

@@DinoRamzi Indeed. All "anthropomorphisms" which mean exactly the opposite of what they seem to indicate, I guess.

[@peppy619]

An important element to remember is that the sea represented chaos and death, and the sea monster is Sheol/Hades (rather than the garnment of skin, in this case I don't think it applies). In fact many paintings depict hell as the mouth of a monster. As we read in Matthew 12: 38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees told Jesus, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 But he replied to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves a sign. Yet no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah, 40 because just as Jonah was in the stomach of the sea creature for three days and three nights, so the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights." Also, Jesus walking on water is a sign that His power is above death.

[@JonathanPageau]

You don't think it applies because you do not realize that the garments of skin are garments of death.

[@peppy619]

@@JonathanPageau fair point, I was thinking of garments of skin only as mammals skin

[@wuwei87]

@@peppy619 Mammals' skin are also garments of death because you have to kill an animal to wear its skin...

[@avu_metalsmith]

Can you do one on “Kingdom” the Korean Drama set in olden times with a zombie epidemic?

[@lionofapollo4636]

Isn't everyone their enemy....?...

[@riggel8804]

From the thumbnail I was hoping you were going to talk about the woke symbolism in contemporary children's stories. I have a 5 year old daughter and this is something my wife fe and I have been grappling with. I listened to the whole lecture regardless. Good stuff. I will be on the lookout for the , "return of the king" narrative.

[@markm2092]

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[@TommySOM]

Jonah means Dove in Hebrew. The Dove is a symbol of the Holy Spirit. In Revelation 17:15 Waters represents people. So can the story of Jonah be a Symbol of The Holy Spirit Coming the the Nations ( Jonah going into the waters )Outside of The Covenant people

[@kaesar69]

Imagine if Monty Python did a Jonah movie. Or maybe one starting Bill Murray

[@oneangelbug]

I love the part where Jonah is vomited out when God speaks to the fish. It's the Creator commanding one underworldly creature (who unlike humans, instinctively obeys God). Also, for Jesus as the true and greater Jonah, death could not digest His divinity. It could only hold him (being human he could physically die for real), 3 days but death could swallow but not integrate Life! Even in death, Jesus never lost his divinity.