JonBenet Ramsey - Psychiatrist Analysis of the Family Pt. 1

[@TheMary0831]

I used to send my family parody Christmas Letters and also satirized chain letters. They loved 'em. LOL.

[@dollinterrupted]

This letter sounds like satire I can’t believe it’s real it’s so insufferable 😂😂😂

[@CristinaF210]

youre kidding right?

[@TheMary0831]

@@CristinaF210 No.

[@robinrainmaker7232]

I did the same when my kids were growing up. It got a lot of laughs. Great minds!

[@poindextertunes]

thats a phenomenal idea 😂

[@bethscott4330]

Little Miss Sunshine is a must watch movie!

[@Lizzie-h3j]

It is absolutley brilliant! It's one of my favourites and was one of my dads too, we would watch it together and laugh our heads off.

[@kathrynpaigebabin]

I love your style. Smart, simple, no frills, Feels like a conversation with a good friend at the top of their field, Subscribed!

[@ladyvanilla3]

I feel exactly the same ❤

[@Elzie-Nou]

Precisely!

[@bethryan9077]

He's just another loser who's repeating the same old BS due to that bogus CBS show that was released in 2016. The Ramseys were Proven innocent way back when the wheel was invented & then finally officially & very publicly exonerated in 2008. The investigation continued & subsequent DNA results from 2016 reiterated that they did absolutely Nothing to their child. A cold case team was put together by the CBI last December & the FBI are finally involved in this investigation. Justice is coming.

[@sharonconstan8234]

Agree! Refreshing. Honest too 👍

[@mosaicgirl4002]

Yes, bit of a find- this channel.

[@Bob-jm8kl]

I always thought those Christmas card letters are obnoxious. Several people in my extended family do them. They’re upper middle class with high achievement expectations. What they omit are things like Ed continues to beat Melanie or Leslie and Jeff are in counseling due to his porn addiction.

[@truthteller5521]

😂😂😂😂

[@phillypersonpretzel]

"Jim is still an undiagnosed malignant narcissist and is now on week 3 of giving the silent treatment to his wife."

[@CL-xh6wt]

@@phillypersonpretzel 😂😂😂

[@MimiRAM0NE]

I thought they were a nice way to catch up with people you might not have time to personally talk to a lot (or follow on SM). For some distant relatives, it's all I really care to hear about, but it's nice to know they are doing well. It doesn't surprise me that it's not full of bad news because most interactions with people aren't that unless it's someone attention seeking online.

[@tinaschultz9371]

I love this comment 😂

[@Tatti2202]

As someone who has followed this case for years I can say I've watched every documentary, film, read every book and listened to nearly every podcast. That being said I thoroughly enjoyed your fresh take on this case. Very well done. I'm going to watch part 2 now. Thank you

[@sonjastanger5858]

I agree

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah he's just Another a##wipe who repeats the same old claptrap about a case that he Also knows Nothing about for the Same reason, Money.

[@BrenMurphy1]

There's no way little Burke didn't break her neck.

[@silvio.r8443]

John is guilty

[@bethryan9077]

@@silvio.r8443 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@Sbarfly13]

As a Southerner (the “deep” variety), I had to chuckle at your intro to the yearly update letter disguised as a Christmas greeting. I always found them repulsive. But, yikes, this one may be prize-worthy. The yachting; John’s billion $ company; the Today Show appearance; no fewer than 3 of JB’s pageant titles; the Better Homes and Gardens reference; etc. It definitely oozes Patsy’s long-suffering insufferability.

[@lindaolsen7089]

And now we have FB. My joke about it when I went on it and decided it wasn't for me was, "I tolerated the annual Christmas letter that never had any resemblance to the reality of the people I had regular contact with. It was only once a year. Daily and smaller versions of the Christmas letter I can do without."

[@susanjohnston8973]

I enjoy getting Christmas letters because that is often the only way I get updates. My friends and family are pretty down to earth and honest though. Patsy’s letter was beyond insufferable.

[@robertafierro5592]

@@lindaolsen7089 its called Fakebook.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

My mom still writes the Christmas letter and we aren’t even from the south! I always cringe to see how she portrays my life because she absolutely paints an idealistic picture and if I had the choice I would be left out of the whole thing altogether!!

[@arleighbarley]

As I watch this, I’m scrolling facebook and seeing that the Ramsey house (I live nearby) is for sale for $7 million.

[@clonaztevedreamkiller5277]

I love it when I find awesome smaller channels. Hope it blows up

[@ahermannblue]

In my mind there is an additional reason why Patsy mentioned an orthodontist for Burke besides wanting him to immediately have perfect teeth. Orthodontists are expensive and many families cannot afford orthodontic work for their children or struggle to pay for it. She wanted it known that the Ramseys could afford it.

[@bethryan9077]

So, their massive 4 storey mansion, 2 private planes, the yacht, the Jag & the centrefold holiday house in Charlevoix wasn't a clue?

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

Patsy communicated via her subconscious that they would need help straightening something crooked in 1997.

[@bethryan9077]

@@79bewareofpuppies97 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is Evidenced & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. ** BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, these never-ending ‘shows’ will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

@@bethryan9077 Your world is gonna come crashing down on you so hard when John's confession of incest and murder becomes publicly known by January 2024.

[@erichagan7153]

None of the people receiving those letters would be having problems affording orthodontia.

[@jenvaher]

A very good dissection of Patsy Ramsey and her need for adoration, applause and attention. I am moving on to part two.

[@bethryan9077]

Patsy was someone who was the life of the party. Isn't that Shocking.

[@charliekane135]

@jenvaher She was raised with two sisters and a VERY strange domineering mother, Nedra. Lots of competition. Her mother frequently spoke about inappropriate topics regarding the children. Might have some bearing on Patsy's psyche.

[@jenvaher]

@@charliekane135 How did you hear about that-Patsy’s mom, sisters, etc.? In a book? Interview? I’d like to learn more. Please let me know.

[@charliekane135]

@@jenvaher I've read a massive amount about this case over the decades and watched loads too. It may have been in the 'Perfect Murder, Perfect Town' book. I'm sorry I can't be more specific.

[@ZoAnne-lm3tb]

Being currently 66, I recall my own mother writing these 'Christmas' letters. When I grew up, I started to write one of them, but quickly realized that they were only a way to brag about how much we had, how great we were doing financially, in order to rather slyly show how much better we were than the others in the family... a way of looking down our noses at them and making them feel inferior to us, without being seen as being overtly obvious and condescending. I threw this letter in the trash, and never attempted to write one again.

[@marciaborst8026]

Exactly!

[@dennistrull1475]

I used to get one from a cuz out west. After I read it.. it's like good to hear the news..But then you're standing there with it in your hand like...wth?😂

[@nordwithnovelty]

My grandmother still sends these out, and while I appreciate hearing about their adventures, it's sometimes interesting reading her perspective on family functions. It's a yearly humble brag for sure, but it's usually funny.

[@dennistrull1475]

@nordwithnovelty treasure your grandmother ♥️♥️

[@nordwithnovelty]

@dennistrull1475 oh, I absolutely do! This year was our first without my grandfather, and while I have always been close with them, it's even more so now.

[@pbohearn]

As a retired, PhD psychologist, who is familiar with a number of the psychoanalysts and books that you mentioned, I appreciate your coming from that approach in enlightening us, as to the intrapsychic and intrafamilial issues and dynamics at Play. You may know that Patsy was also a beauty pageant, and won Miss West Virginia so clearly, this is always been a key part of her that she then projected onto her daughter. You mentioned JB´s problems with enuresis, and encopresis, my understanding was that Burke would leave his feces on chocolate candy that JB had in her bedroom. That clearly implies significant rage towards his sister.

[@bethryan9077]

To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.

[@bethryan9077]

Hopefully the relevant authorities are monitoring the comment sections & you will Never be contacted to sit on a jury. Jeez.

[@lilcajunqueen888]

You sure told those PhDs how it was BR 😂​@@bethryan9077

[@ericj3331]

I agree with most of what you said​@@bethryan9077

[@gaildavison5180]

I am a retired mental health nurse & found your summary of the family dynamics insightful.

[@Duckiemomma1205]

24:15 I also believe the cover up was also to save face for their family

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys..

[@ShmaylaRay]

If this was a cover up, it was a very self-sabatoging one. If they wanted to distance themselves from the crime, why on earth would Patsy use her own belonging (paint brush) as one of the weapons used? Why would she use the same notepad she wrote the ransom letter on for her sample handwriting? And if John was in on it, why would he bring her body out? Why would they still even have it if she wasn't supposed to be there? These are the questions that keep me doubting that they did it.

[@megalou6567]

@@bethryan9077womp womp womppppppp

[@5wisher5weet]

What was the psychology behind naming a daughter JonBenet in modern America?

[@vickymc5106]

I get the impression patsy wasn’t too pleased that John had a son from a previous marriage named John and couldn’t name her own son John. BUT she wanted to find a way of naming one of her kids after him because, well, just because 🤷🏼‍♀️ (strange woman)

[@zacshifler]

The dad's name is John Bennet ramsey. It's a play on his name. He also had another son named John Andrew

[@jennifergiannantonio7764]

she is named after her father and her mother. because JonBenét comes from John Bennett and her middle name is Patricia. She is directly named after both her parents.

[@LE-zy2od]

​@@jennifergiannantonio7764poor child disnt have her own name

[@juliaconnell]

@@vickymc5106 interesting - cause my thinking on this - given her father was John Bennet Ramsey - and it's a combination of HIS names - JonBenet - that it was about the dad (though either parent could have come up with the idea - a slightly narcissist move really, either way or maybe I'm biased by my own experience with an abusive narcissist - he named his daughter ... (dammit - he's dead now - his daughter isn't) - it was very much about *him* - his daughters name. he TOLD his (then) wife what their daughters name was - was upset when she got it 'wrong' ( *very* much all about him)

[@vessela7484]

I would have rolled my eyes so hard to receive this Christmas update from Patsy. John’s other child is an actual doctor, gets a passing mention, but her precious offspring gets a whole paragraph on the achievement of losing his baby teeth 😆 Come on, lady

[@lilcajunqueen888]

Insufferable comes to mind.

[@caseyw.6550]

Everyone who sends those kinds of letters in their christmas cards are insufferable...and I hope they know that. NO ONE CARES.

[@sabrinalynn9339]

When she starts writing about Berk in the Christmas card she mentions the timing as “1997” for when they will visit the orthodontist. Looking back at the ransom letter, the way they describe timing is exactly the same way. It mentions ” if you want her to see 1997 you must follow our instructions”

[@bethryan9077]

Firstly, the letter was Hand written, that typed letter is a Fake. Next - Patsy gave one to the Barnhills, where Glenn Meyer was living in their basement apartment & the Ramseys had no idea he was there.

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

Good catch; it's as obvious as the nose on your face that Patsy wrote the ransom note.

[@thisisme3238]

@@lizfinkelstein1323 Agree wholeheartedly!

[@bethryan9077]

@@lizfinkelstein1323 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@bethryan9077]

@@thisisme3238 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. BTW - Burke, was Never even a suspect. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@robertafierro5592]

This is the only channel.that I take seriously. His knowledge and observations are Spot On. I wish I knew more about Patsy's younger years and a little about her family..she's still a mystery in many ways.

[@PoeLemic]

Loved this. These are some very new insights into the psychologies of the members of the Ramsey family. Thanks for sharing from your training and domain of knowledge.

[@CPAndy-x5x]

I think Patsy was living vicariously through her daughter.

[@bethryan9077]

I think you're jealous of beautiful classy Patsy.

[@nottthereyet4872]

Like a lot of men encourage their sons to partipate in similar male based activities?

[@NickanM]

​@@bethryan9077 *_Hi Burke!_* 👋 😎

[@bethryan9077]

@@NickanM Obviously I insulted your intelligence but umm that's Your fault.

[@acb5245]

Patsy was Beautiful 👍

[@jimmyzhao2673]

I think those child 'beauty pageants' are creepy af, and should be banned.

[@JenniferNewLife144]

same

[@LivLovePray-f5o]

My mom always used to say no children should EVER be placed in situations like pageants. Imagine back in time when we didn't know how many pedos were out there stalking those children. Their minds are warped and twisted and they get off just watching the little ones. Absolutely disgusting.

[@poindextertunes]

Some of them are fronts for child prostitution. Which is what the Ramesy’s were doing on the night of JonBenet’s death

[@jacquelinehunt7794]

Perverts paradise.

[@TheMary0831]

What is so stunning to me is that A LOT of the people who revile the type of pageants that Jon Benet was in (and I agree 100% - they are creepy, gross and inappropriate) are OK with young kids doing drag. Say what? I don't get it. How about let's not exploit kids and introduce them to adult pageantry based on sexuality at all - K?

[@cherylbommarito5569]

Your analysis is not only thoughtful but very informative and I feel accurate. Don’t let the apathy of the “ image “ of life at its best “ lie discourage you from forward travel !

[@joybowerman6236]

Just wanted to say I’ve become obsessed with your content. I’m a clinical mental health counseling grad student and consume a lot of true crime. You’ve really helped me with conceptualizing and applying theories ! Pls keep posting ! I’ve learned so much from you

[@bethryan9077]

Oh pleeease, this con artist makes it all up as he goes along. The world is full of people like yourself who pay people like him to spout Rubbish. He knows Nothing about this case which has Actually been about a Proven innocent family for over 25 years.

[@Yourfavoritehermit]

@@bethryan9077 you like Mariah Carey Christmas music!? Opinion discarded.

[@1_Bad_Z]

In Steve Thoma's book; it's mentioned that he requested hand writing samples from both Parents. What the Parents didn't know is that he had already collected samples from both their writing for the previous 10 years. The Ramseys samples given to Detective didn't match their writing from their prior writing. Hmmmmmmm...

[@bethryan9077]

None of that is True & BTW - lowlife Steve Thomas is a Proven Liar & besides being Sued for that full of BS book, he is a Proven Liar in more than one Court Of Law. FYI - that very morning, detective Patterson asked John for something that had writing, from him & Patsy. Patsy used to buy those notepads in packs of 5 from the local store. John & Patsy had one each. John Handed the cops Both notepads & he wrote something there & then on his notepad. The Ramseys thereafter submitted Multiple handwriting samples deary that did Not Match the Note. Clearly you believe everything you read off the back of your cornflake box as well. LOL. You know, that I know, that is true. Aww.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@1_Bad_Z]

@@bethryan9077 🎻 🎻 🎻...

[@melissasw64]

If I understand correctly, there were several analysis of the handwriting. I think I read that in Thomas' book. There were a couple that said Patsy was a likely match and one that said she was the writer. Only the analysis by people hired by the Ramseys came back in their favor. I am no expert, but when I look at the handwriting---it does look similar to Patsy's.

[@1_Bad_Z]

@@melissasw64 keep in mind; we don't have to be experts. What intruder is going to enter the Ramsey's home and before they leave, without the child, is going to leave a lengthy note? You mean to tell me that they will leave clues via note; that way, Law Enforcement can eventually catch them. Hmmmmmmm...

[@larrydirtybird]

I think it’s ironic, that in 1996, Patsy was so excited to be in the audience of the Today Show, to be on TV for a few fleeting moments, and to have Al Roker and Bryant Gumbel speak to her. Little did she know that in 1997, in 1998, in 1999, etc, she frequently be on TV, and not for fleeting moments, but being interviewed by the biggest TV personalities in the USA.

[@Whookieee]

I was thinking the same thing, like you're about to get your wish ma'am

[@mekylieme]

That makes me so sad to think about.

[@lisakaye3919]

She seemed to enjoy them very much with the exception of the very first interview where she was obviously sedated

[@christineellsworth4164]

I am wondering if Beth Ryan and Vettelover69 are screen names for John or Burke.

[@loismailletlynn6079]

yep or some random auntie

[@bethryan9077]

I wonder if your aged 9 or 10?

[@Trinkette__00]

Ramseys PR firm probably. All good though, the amount of replies she leaves makes for lots of reporting, which will eventually get bethryan banned😊

[@bethryan9077]

@@CuteLittlePuffyCheekBabies It's really amusing that you live in the delusion that you're investigating this case. LOL. Umm deary, the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the banner of Law Enforcement who include - seasoned expert investigators, expert crime scene techs & expert DNA scientists. Your 'research' is watching TV & believing all the garbage. Stick to the Cartoons, true crime is way over your heads. To say that my account is bogus, also shows the level of your Desperation, so much so, that you're inciting hatred Against me also & duly Noted. The fact that you want someone to Find Me, also shows the level of your criminality.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Trinkette__00 It must be soo terrible for people like You, to Read that some people Know the Truth about this crime And, the Truth about the Case & the Truth about what Actually happened to JB & post those True Facts. As Opposed to all the hate-filled & idiotic garbage that 1000's of people post on all sites. The Same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. These Same people call names At the Ramseys & accuse them of disgraceful & vile acts against Both Kids, Including this sadistic Murder of their 6 year old Child. Then those who are even Worse & do Same to the 9 year old Kid because of a TV show. You all post your Garbage about this fine upstanding family who were All Proven Innocent a Long time ago. FYI - All have the Right to Defend Them. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? Only morons believe Patsy Did That! Not everyone is guilty of being an absolute imbecile deary. There are people with Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes who can envision scenarios of what may have happened. Then there’s Loads of you who Clearly aren’t very bright & repeat all the Garbage that started from tabloid magazines & that shite grew legs into books of BS, TV shows & so onto YT videos. Y’all then post about your Baseless ‘observations’ due to your Ignorance, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to something called Evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does Not Mean that it doesn't exist. The Exoneration was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important, yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial, so the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like Yourself. Doh. Like soo many others, You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If fact. At The Same Time, you all Make Up a whole lot of Other Shite & post that As If factual too. Yawn. I do something called Research lovey, isn’t that friggin shocking. LOL. You & your like watch TV & read books of BS, copy other highly Ignorant victim basher’s BS, then repeat it all like well trained monkeys. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003. Which Means, NO Ramsey at all. You highly Ignorant kids need to understand that you do Not own these comment sections. BTW - those like Yourselves who Gang Up on others is what will get You banned.

[@sandrab2589]

To me it looks like two narcissistic parents who had the inability to empathize and/or couldn't be bothered to have a strong connection with either child as individuals (not mini versions of their parents). The children were merely performers within the family. Burke acted out his frustration and loneliness with the defecating, lashing out at his sister and JB with the bedwetting. My mother (like Patsy) had a vision of who and what she wanted me to be. In addition to the snarky comments she would lob at me about my appearance, this came out in birthday and Christmas gifts. I loved books, sewing, knitting and crafting, but my mother would give me perfume, jewelry, and make-up (things I never used, never asked for, never wanted). My mother wanted me to be more outgoing and popular, and couldn't accept me for the quiet, reflective and sensitive person I was. Introversion was seen as a fault. Everything about JB's life makes me so sad.

[@pennybourban3712]

Must have been awful, I'm so sorry. Introversion is not a problem that needs to be fixed. Reminds me of when children were punished for being left-handed. It caused behavioral problems.

[@Dustandfuzz]

From the outside looked like the perfect family. Inside is was dysfunctional as heck! Patsy always on stage except for inside the home. Absent father. Favoured one child over the other. No wonder kids were nuts. The parents ruined them.

[@thetwitchywitchy]

No one has ever been happy to receive one of those “after Christmas letters”, it’s always “our family is rich and wonderful, we thought you peasants would be brought joy in imagining you were us” sorry but people who write these letters are soooooo not good people…

[@AlexaLake7]

Andrew, I found the family photo of the Ramseys a bit unsettling. Burke is placed BEHIND of the rest of the family (specifically behind Patsy) while JonBenet is seated on her father's knee. It would have been a warm family photo if Burke had been next to Patsy, with her arm around him.

[@taniaearle4457]

Important point, he's at the back behind Patsy, like a tag on.

[@grwoobie1297]

They didn't like Burke before this happened. I always felt he was somewhere on the autism spectrum and Patsy was all about appearances so he was a disappointment.

[@bethryan9077]

Haven't you ever Not wanted to be in a family photo, for whatever reason, I have, many times & since a kid.

[@bethryan9077]

@@taniaearle4457 Pick pick pick - do you Ramsey bashers pick your noses too? Hmm.

[@AlexaLake7]

@@taniaearle4457 exactly.

[@ZoAnne-lm3tb]

"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." ~ Arthur Conan Doyle

[@dennistrull1475]

The family is so improbable. But they're all that is left. Geraldo asked John about that a couple of days ago, but Coumo drowned John out on the answer.

[@ginamarie6664]

Have you seen the interview where they ask Patsy about her own writing? Captions from photo albums and she won’t recognize her writing there either.

[@AndPsych]

Yes… what do you make of that?

[@angelaz20]

@@AndPsych she’s full of 💩 I’m from Ukraine, for 24 years I was writing in russian and for 26 years I’ve been writing in English. When I am looking at my writing or my parents writing from a long time ago I immediately can distinguish, whose handwriting…

[@bethryan9077]

Firstly, you're just someone else who knows Nothing about this case & so, you have No Clue why John & Patsy said what they did at Any stage & one needs to realise that TV shows are Edited. Next, Patsy did Not write the note & that is a Very well known Fact. The keystone cops 'leaking' to the media that Patsy wrote the note has been The biggest money spinning factor since the very beginning & all the Stories grew arms & legs for headlines & so, into the Imaginations of those in the public domain who are not very bright. Then all the so-called experts who jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money also, from this Still high profile crime & Clearly they're as Daft as each other. Fake writing 'samples' have been on your TV screen from TV shows that had an Agenda for the same reason - $$ & so, onto utube videos & these never ending podcasts full of the same old False information. There were only 3 photos that had writing under them in One album only. Strange yeah? Glenn Meyer wrote under those photos to include some letters, as in the note & to add even spaces in between the words, as in the note - even spaces in between Every word in the note - which None of you have Ever Noticed because people are too lazy to Think. Patsy wouldn't write that stupid crap under her photos & there were no names, where or year. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. The DNA from one of the 2 killers has been in CODIS since 2003. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@ginamarie6664]

@@bethryan9077 Never once said I thought Patsy was guilty of anything! I believe we have been misled by the media for sure. I'd love to speak with you at greater length about this.

[@5wisher5weet]

This channel will blow up, good work

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

Andrew, This is SUCH a great, interesting video, It's so refreshing to hear the individual (and combined) psychological mechanisms that may have been at play in the Ramsey family (Patsy especially) rather than throwing the blanket of "narcissism" that has become way too common. One interesting tidbit about Patsy's pathological need to display perfection while the inside is in decay, is the state of their home. It was a total mess. Outside looked great, they had a gardener/landscaper who came regularly, they had all their Christmas decorations up, but photos and videos by police of the inside show complete disarray. Even accounting for some mess for Christmas with 2 young kids and accounting for more mess because they were leaving early the next day for vacation, it was still pretty shocking to detectives. All was not well with this family.

[@lindaolsen7089]

By way of contrast, the Watts home after the good friend Nickole Atkinson called police to do a well-being check on Shanann Watts and the kids was completely organized and clean to the point where on camera people remarked about it. So it looked too clean and THAT seemed sus to people. Some rich people are clutterbugs and don't care about certain things. Their basement was like an old school basement and not that organized, but the guests didn't go down there. Some people about to go bankrupt again are neatniks and give the appearance of wealth and success. To me, none of that makes me put level of house organization to indicates guilt or innocence. Now, evidence of recent and unusual deep cleaning, strong chemical smells (not just of the Saturday morning Windex smell ) etc. Now that makes me think twice . . .

[@bethryan9077]

Soo many have seen the Same house deary. Exactly what part of that 4 storey mansion was a total mess & in complete disarray? By saying that 'it was pretty shocking to detectives', is not only a Blatant Lie but really, to try & use detectives as your Means of validation, is pathetic indeed.

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

@@bethryan9077 you need a hobby.

[@bethryan9077]

@@lizfinkelstein1323 It is very clear to the whole World that You can't Back Up your Mouth & so, you Tried to deride me Instead, which Also shows the level of your Intellect. LOL.

[@bethryan9077]

BTW - the housekeeper was to have been there on the 24th but cancelled. She was due to arrive that day of the 26th after they had left for Charlevoix. The kitchen had some items from their Xmas Day late breakfast feast. How Shocking! Patsy was flat-out getting ready for Two concurrent trips away & the Xmas dinner party that night & they had to leave at about 4.30 p.m. She also had 2 young kids to chase around plus some of their friends who arrived to play. I hope she found some time to Rest before they left for what was to be her Last Xmas Day dinner Ever, with her little girl.

[@taniaearle4457]

Best Jon Bennet Ramsay case advice ever 'If your in the rabbit hole, leave and get on with your life, it will never be solved'

[@Lkhrobertson]

Yet, here you are.

[@kellyjacquin715]

I believe we are getting one step closer daily. There may never be an arrest, but i do believe we the people will find out the truth. I hope sooner than later.

[@kandykaye9981]

I don’t live in the rabbit hole but I do dive down into it every few years just to see if there is anything I missed. 🤷‍♀️😇

[@kellyjacquin715]

@@taniaearle4457 it will be solved, we are almost there! There are still several people investigating this case! Do more research, you will figure out who took JonBenrts Ramseys life!

[@AdrienneMint]

You’re

[@christiannusser9976]

A prosecutor showed John and Patsy a family photo where Patsy had written something on it and asked them independently if they recognize the handwriting. Both lied and claimed they do not recognize the handwriting at all. If they lie about unnecessary things they probably also lie about the important stuff. They claimed that they were just a normal family and that Burke and JonBenét were best buddies. Their attempts to distance themselves from everything that happened and from any evidence is over the top. Deception, distraction, half-truths and even some blatant lies. There are a lot of red flags about the family.

[@grwoobie1297]

Friends of the family have said Burke was a strange child, definitely not a typical.

[@bethryan9077]

Firstly, you're just someone else who knows Nothing about this case & so, you have No Clue why John & Patsy said what they did at Any stage. Having a totally brainwashed Biased attitude, you have a very biased perception. Next, Patsy did Not write the note & that is a Proven Fact. There were only 3 photos that had writing under them in One album only. Strange yeah? Glenn Meyer wrote under those photos to include some letters, as in the note & to add even spaces in between the words, as in the note - even spaces in between Every word in the note. Patsy wouldn't write that stupid crap under her photos & there were no names, where or year. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. The red flags are that - people like yourself may have already served on a jury.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@grwoobie1297 Name those 'friends'. Put up or shut up.

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives there that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive & within 6 minutes of the start of the 911 call. He had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom & he did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived. The Whites, the Fernies & the pastor arrived at different times & sat in the den & sunroom. It was going to be a long wait that, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called two victim's advocates to come who were also present from early that morning. Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night. Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cop's Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails. Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper. *It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’. Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer of her precious child. Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were out. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them has written a Book. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. *Burke did Not move from his bed til he was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m. His next interview was with a police child service’s officer that his parents Allowed 10 days after, no lawyer. The public have seen a few snippets of that. He was 11 when interviewed by another detective, over 2 days, that his parents Allowed, no lawyer. The public have seen a few snippets. N.B. That was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. The perps Staged all items on that table & lots more, Everywhere. One needs to think about the Major Players behind this Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven Liars.

[@blazingstar9638]

Interesting to hear your perspective !

[@shelbyhunkler9259]

Interesting that Patsy brags about her husband's yacht. Who are good at making knots? Sailors. Having been over and over and over this case for years, and having seen the chaotic, hoarder-style interior of the Ramsey house (from police video footage) I am convinced that this family presented a public "front" that was nothing like the private reality. I believe that the evidence of chronic sexual trauma to the child made it necessary for them to cover up her acidental sexual asphyxiation and head trauma (possibly from dropping her post mortem.) I do not believe there was any intruder, especially after seeing the interior maze of the messy house.

[@ruthdianneschoch5583]

My thoughts, too.

[@Cherrysmith2809]

JB never exhibited signs of chronic abuse. She was outgoing and happy, by her teachers accounts. She did experience her brother’s passive-aggressive and aggressive outbursts from time to time, the significant one being when he broke a facial bone by swinging a golf club at her head. Sound familiar?

[@ASMR4calmmoods]

I grew up on the west coast (CA and Oregon) and these letters are also a tradition here. So braggy. To this day, I want to see how much (little) mention I get in my mom’s letter. It tells me a lot. 😢

[@shaunpeters]

Great review of the Ramsey case. Beyond the facts, this case also triggers a "...something is just off here... guilty" vibe.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys..

[@Iridescence93]

@@bethryan9077 An intruder writing the note makes no sense. If it's someone who planned a kidnapping he would obviously have the note already prepared. If it's a S offender why would he care about ransom at all and drastically risk getting caught when he already had what he wanted? It only makes some sense if whoever wrote the note felt very comfortable being in that house, Handwriting analysis isn't DNA it can be wrong.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Iridescence93 Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of what was actually a calligrapher’s tool that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That item did Not belong to Patsy. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.

[@brettmitchell8014]

Just found your channel. Very interesting and well put together. I'm definitely watching part 2. You gained a sub. Much love from Texas.

[@rhondachavers7543]

ditto

[@DelaniaAndTheDogs]

Same. Also sending well wishes from Texas.

[@Duckiemomma1205]

13:30 patsy did really seem to want attention. She would definitely get it from the world for the rest of her life due to the tragic event.

[@hippiesoul9222]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Awesome job. 😁👍

[@bethryan9077]

Nah, he's just another who knows Nothing about this case & he too believes all that he sees on TV shows that were from way back in the day.

[@lunaumbra]

Spot on! Protect the family image at all costs, especially when trying to convince everyone you are the Brady Bunch ☝

[@bethryan9077]

Exactly how did they 'protect the family image at all costs' lovey? Before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, I'll let you know that they were Proven Innocent a long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts who included Forensic Scientists.

[@janetdenton6674]

I may be commenting too soon, I haven't listened all the way through. You are surely aware that Patsy was Miss West Virginia but didn't make it any further up from there. Her sister did the same , but advanced to the Miss America pageant. I think the next big thing Patsy achieved was marrying well. She was quite a bit younger than John, marrying well is the southern euphemism for gold digger, but with great taste and manners.

[@LinaMEW]

Patsy and her family pushed Jonbenet into doing pageants and probably were hoping she would become Miss America.

[@wendiwonderly1419]

My mother had some old neighbor who married a prominent local minister. Or they thought they were prominent. Every year she would send these form letters at Christmas to people she barely knew anymore. They were filled with every good deed they ever did. They were really into social causes. They used to just be into themselves. We couldn’t wait to get these letters so we could pass them around and laugh. Especially if we had a little too much holiday wine. It was our Christmas entertainment

[@toma5153]

HaHa. We get one of these letters every year from distant relatives. They have no idea how foolish and selfish they make themselves look. It's our Christmas laugh.

[@dollinterrupted]

Omg I was thinking about how if I had received this letter by patsy I would have shown it to everyone I know just to laugh lol

[@3rrlia661]

That ransom letter sounds like the Christmas card letter and sounds like Patsy.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. BTW - Burke, was Never even a suspect. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@amyllarsen9299]

I just found your channel and I am impressed with your analysis of this family. I am really enjoying your thoughts and especially appreciative that you include the psychodynamic angle. I think Patsy's use of single quotes when referring to friends was due to the context of being thrown a huge surprise birthday party. As if she was suggesting that she was put on the spot and did not like having a surprise party, so she is jokingly or passive aggressively calling those responsible so-called friends. But I think she did it tongue in cheek, as she sure seemed to like being in the spotlight! The kind of person who would love nothing more than having a huge party in her honor and being the center of attention.

[@bethryan9077]

Umm, the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago so all this utter Garbage coming from Another a##wipe's mouth is, just That.

[@catspajamas2961]

Exactly. You're supposed to be "upset" that your friends went behind your back to plan your birthday party and must have lied to you to pull it off. While you're secretly happy they did it.

[@BrenMurphy1]

And that depth of wealth completely confused the initial investigation. Of course it was Burke going Berzerk 🚨

[@barbaracollins5605]

You are much smarter than the behavior panel. "The lady doth protest too much me thinks" on the handwriting, exactly!

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@dennistrull1475]

At least some of the behavioral panel say they're ex government operatives.

[@ziggylaurie2268]

@@dennistrull1475they claim that. One of them is a bit sketchy imo

[@dennistrull1475]

@@ziggylaurie2268 just leads me to think... If there is a tie in to John's business... with Lockheed Martin, do they have reason to interfere with the investigation? Then these guys say they're government operatives. What's up.

[@Khnole6619]

The “friends” is faux anger at being surprised, like pretending to be overwhelmed at being the center of attention when someone actually relishes it

[@billy2807]

I'm glad I scrolled to find this before (redundantly) pointing it out myself. Well said.

[@sj9410]

Yes, I thought this was pretty obvious and was surprised this psych Dr didn't get it.

[@reconstructingleslie4597]

I have been obsessed with this case from day one! That Christmas card / letter was freaky! Patsy was a brag queen for sure! I guess Christmas card letters were how people bragged pre Facebook era! I rarely sent cards when my sons were growing up much less did a big ol Christmas letter! I traveled hither and yon to work and the grocery store 😉😃

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

It is how people bragged pre-social media. We had a family friend who actually discussed her two girls IQ test results. I was young but my mom made me aware of it and what poor taste it is.

[@karenjewell6543]

The super achieving adult kids got 1 line..Burkes fascinating dental journey was more important it seems. I know people who write these letters... usually my eyeballs are rolling so hard they Slam in the back of my head by the second line..

[@reconstructingleslie4597]

And like Facebook people love to brag ! lol

[@novelist99]

But that doesn't make her a killer. Also, that kind of Christmas card is still common in my family.

[@INatalkaI]

Tbh, as someone who's not American and did not grow up around this, in my opinion, it only looks "freaky" in retrospect because one or more of them killed that poor girl. If this was just your friend's family showing you old family mementos, you would maybe think it was funny or braggadocious but not "freaky."

[@ElizabethSmith-yf1be]

OMG lightbulbs going off hugely. I was meant to be my mother’s idealised self. She would whisper ‘ you’re my little me.’ 😢 She told me I had ‘kicked her out of shape’ during the pregnancy. I was too scared of her to rebel, apart from weeing on my bedroom carpet.

[@vickieva2927]

I have been obsessed with this case since it happened. I have a son the same age as JonBenet and a daughter the age of Burke so at the time it really hit hard. I have read many books. Including John and Patsy's and have gone back and forth on who took JonBenet's life. The most confusing piece of evidence is that stupid Ranson note.

[@AndPsych]

The ransom note is bizarre

[@johnhwallace8091]

Ooikkkmm in in Jo Jo of

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives there that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive & within 6 minutes of the start of the 911 call. He had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom & he did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived. The Whites, the Fernies & the pastor arrived at different times & sat in the den & sunroom. It was going to be a long wait that, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called two victim's advocates to come who were also present from early that morning. Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night. Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cop's Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails. Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper. *It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’. Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer of her precious child. Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were out. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them has written a Book. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. *Burke did Not move from his bed til he was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m. His next interview was with a police child service’s officer that his parents Allowed 10 days after, no lawyer. The public have seen a few snippets of that. He was 11 when interviewed by another detective, over 2 days, that his parents Allowed, no lawyer. The public have seen a few snippets. N.B. That was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. The perps Staged all items on that table & lots more, Everywhere. One needs to think about the Major Players behind this Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven Liars.

[@bethryan9077]

@@kandykaye9981 What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? It amuses me to see that soo many of you victim bashers Pretend that this case happened recently & yet it is 26 years down the track. LMAO. Lots of people with obvious Intelligence, common Sense & Logical thought processes can work out many scenarios of what may have happened when someone Got In Their House & then there's the rest, hateful, mean & not very bright.

[@maureenwilson6031]

I've accepted that we will never know what happened in that house, but, I love your videos,and will always watch them!

[@Kirsten_is_cursed10]

I moved to Boulder the year this happened, and was also in the Core Knowledge program in kindergarten. The Ramsey’s lived in the nicest neighborhood around, like literal mansions. One time someone dared me to ride my bike past their house but I was relieved to find it gated off. Boulder police might not have had much experience with homicide, but they were actively involved in the community and not nearly as “inept” as the Ramsey’s painted them out to be. The father did a recent news interview, in which he dodged every question and brings it back to police incompetence. The vibes are all off, and he gets visibly agitated when asked questions that don’t suit his narrative. Boulder was a great place to grow up, and I’m heartbroken to think that JB could be a thriving 32-year old now 😢

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. BTW - Burke, was Never even a suspect. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@charliekane135]

@@bethryan9077 why do keep leaving the same inaccurate garbage on everybody's comments?

[@bethryan9077]

@@charliekane135 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is Evidenced & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. ** BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, these never-ending ‘shows’ will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

Well, you wouldn't Know how inept the cops Were, because none of this happened to You. Nor were you Present at that house that day. Nor were you involved in any part of the Investigation at Any stage later or knew about anything Else. Clearly you know Nothing & so, you have No Idea what John was Thinking when in interviews. Doh. FYI - he's been telling the narrative for 26 years on National TV deary, you have a totally Biased attitude, so you have a very biased Perception. Of course he brings it back to police incompetence, because those who Were involved in this case & all those who still Are - Know that the cops WERE, totally incompetent & the Cops, have been Hiding the Fact that the cops there early that morning, Should Have Caught both highly sadistic child killers who were Still in the basement Then.

[@HappyRoach1]

@@charliekane135 I think Beth Ryan, might be Beth Ryan Ramsey, a cousin of the Ramsey family😄. I mostly believe in the IDI theory, however I am open to RDI or BDI. But I'm not giving 25 page responses as to why I believe the Ramsey's are innocent.

[@mslillian4232]

I think you analyze them perfectly

[@ruthdianneschoch5583]

It’s not just that the handwriting is so close to Patsy’s, but also the language in the document. I’m from the South, have read extensively on this, and the “Listen carefully” and other language used is so like Patsy’s.

[@sj9410]

Also, she speaks a lot of French. Hence the attache. No ransom note ever in history has ever been so eloquent.

[@toma5153]

After reading the Vanity Fair article (October, 1997) on the Ramsey family I was convinced the parents knew what happened. Among the many inconsistencies, there is also the collusion of the Ramsey's attorneys with the Boulder P.D. The district attorney's office was steam-rolled. We'll never know what really happened. Good vid. Thanks for your efforts.

[@bethryan9077]

October 1997. LMAO. Doh.

[@dennistrull1475]

Meanwhile Hunter retired to Hawaii

[@specialk1627]

Only in Colorado!

[@melissasw64]

@@dennistrull1475 Did he really? I didn't know that. I read Steve Thomas' book and apparently he retired because of the whole debacle. Sad situation.

[@melissasw64]

It really did seem like that at the time. There is just no getting around that absurd ransom note. Those poor people. If it was truly and accident they could probably have avoided prison if they had just come clean. Instead, in those few hours before the sun rose, they condemned themselves to a life of hell on earth.

[@TruthSeekr2662]

Great analysis!!

[@staceyfloyd4009]

I’ve followed this case for years and have felt completely confused every time I watched something new. I just could not figure out who was lying and who was telling the truth. In the last 4 years, I have done a lot of introspection following a big life change. And wow. Listening to your analysis, I get it now. I realize I have been viewing everything through the eyes of someone without NPD. If Patsy is a narcissist, it finally makes sense. Because when you are hearing her pain and seeing them all grieve, you are thinking “who kills their adored daughter because she wet the bed or didn’t like the doll?” But if she is NPD, that changes the game.

[@HEllis-qu5nn]

You never saw what an obscene Narc she was? That is almost unbelievable lol

[@danmcn61]

For someone like Patsy, any problem or failure that the children have is a reflection on her. Hence, if her children aren't perfect then it drives her into a psychotic rage.

[@TeaSpiracy]

Narcissists see children as sn extension of themselves. If this "other self" is not up to par, nothing good comes of it, and there is almost always long-lasting effects from the turmoil the parent caused the child to suffer.

[@dennistrull1475]

Whoever did it, mental illness would explain a lot of it.

[@dennistrull1475]

​@@TeaSpiracyI'm thinking multiple personality or Ambien use. Seems health records might help to rule in or rule out.

[@CRM394]

Orthodontists are expensive and elective, so the mention there is just to show that they can afford such a luxury and that appearances are important to their family.

[@michaelfrank5239]

Maybe it was a joke.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Thank you for your insights. Thank you for examining the possible significance of the bed wetting incident. Others have suggested it was a frustrated discipline motive. Patsy was not an immature young parent, so that didn’t seem to fit. Failure to meet the mother’s need for perfection, in behavioral regression, is a plausible explanation. Now I understand why this scenario was considered. I don’t have a pet theory, but have read several books and followed the case. It’s tragic that JonBenet’s murder is still unsolved. I hope you will make a Part 2, and more. I would love to hear your thoughts about the rest of the theories, and more of your thoughts and conclusions (if any).

[@bethryan9077]

FYI - John's eldest daughter from his first marriage, was also Patsy's daughter as she very lovingly helped raise all 3. Elizabeth was killed with her fiance in a car accident 4 years previously. Patsy had not long gone into remission from stage-4 ovarian cancer, not long before the murder of her 6 year old little girl. Both JB & Burke as Very young kids, watched that battle, which very nearly killed their mother. But people such as yourself, go into all manner of pathetic scenarios about a woman who You Never Knew. Hmm.

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

IMO, the reason this case has remained unsolved is that right from the start the police were pointing fingers at the parents, the parents were pointing fingers at an intruder, and NO ONE was pointing a finger at Burke- he slipped right through.

[@bethryan9077]

@@lizfinkelstein1323 Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon of the 26th when he was still at the Whites, by detective Patterson, who was on the scene at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither parent was present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to the where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that Bogus CBS show was aired in 2016, Patterson publicly stated on national TV that Burke didn't know Anything & he was very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed 10 days after the murder of his 6 year old sister, by a child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer was present with him & the parent's Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer was present with Burke & the parents Allowed that interview to take place as well. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. Science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The faeces Stories are Not true. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that most people Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used. The 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole & the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to that believe that Garbage because they’re not very Bright.

[@coconow1]

I’m so glad I found your channel and have subscribed. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, intelligence, humility and compassion. You are also an excellent communicator.

[@artphotognh]

Excellent psychological insights here, both on this fascinating family and more universal information.

[@LilyfromUruguay]

I had never doubted the Ramseys, not even once... until I listened to you.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. BTW - Burke, was Never even a suspect. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@LilyfromUruguay]

@@bethryan9077 Impressive report. So many facts I knew nothing about...

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys..

[@chittyluv2651]

Patsy definitely was the epitome of that Southern cliche where we can say Bless her heart which usually is just a way to be condescending without cursing. It can also really mean Bless their heart but in that case we feel sorry for the person. Just my observations from here in the South.

[@nolagirl2458]

Bless your heart is absolutely a dig 😂

[@rainbowgirlism]

@@nolagirl2458 Usually..but not always..when I told someone once I had to go to three schools in one school year once, they said "Bless your heart that's a hard enough age anyway ." And I think they truly meant it sympathetically..of course, they weren't southern.

[@jerimiahwinkler7676]

Bless your heart, can mean i understand and feel you or, what an idiot

[@Girlytang]

I was searching for new videos and yours was fortunately recommended. I appreciate your expertise and laid back presentation style. I followed this case contemporaneously as a young mom with a son of the same age as JonBenet and have kept up with the various updates through the years. All that you’ve stated resonates with my lay person views. I am from North Carolina and have a couple of relatives who once sent those tortuous family updates at Christmastime. I always felt second hand embarrassment reading them. Now I am off to watch part 2! So tickled that you have more content. ☺️

[@Gailey379]

👍 Very interesting, great presentation. I’ve been following this case from day one.

[@bethryan9077]

In rebuttal to Andrew van der Faart, this latest full of BS video - *Firstly, 2.20 - there's a whole Lot that 'disturbs' Me about Your behaviour deary. Jeez mate, I sure hope you are Not a psychiatrist. FYI - the letters went to friends from their church who actually Knew them. Burke had problems with his teeth that had mostly all come through & as their Friends did Know about that - so the reference to the Orthodontist & most people know that kids Hate to go to the Dentist, so her mentioning all that is about some Drama that will occur soon & it's kinda like a joke for all, who Understand such issues & her. They had only been in Boulder for 6 years & their church friends didn't know John's adult kids from his first marriage, that's Why Patsy only wrote one line about John Andrew & Melinda. Add to the fact, about the Pain of not being able to include Elizabeth, because she had died 4 years previous. Right, so according to Your 3 brain cells, kids shouldn't do ballet recitals or be a standout in the baseball team either, just in case the parents decide to be Proud of them. Patsy would Hand Write all her letters a cards, as she did This One. As per the MO in relation to all aspects about this case that soo many Dafties bang on about, you put up a fake Typed letter & FYI - Patsy did Not put - friends - with the single quotes around it ' ', as you said she did, as Typed on that page. Whoever typed that up & it was put on Screen for a TV Show, did Not want the viewers, the World, to See for Themselves that Patsy's Writing did Not match the ransom note. As a highly Ignorant person, you too should get off the merry-go-round about a 'bang on the head' being a Precedent for further events. Go find the photo of the X-ray taken of this little girl's Skull. Then you can find the autopsy photos, are shoulders up only, & have a good look at the dig marks from JB's nails in her skin at the front of her neck At the Cord because she was Actually - fighting for her life when strangled to death. The Two severe fractures to the skull occurred just After that. It is a Fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, it Wasn't. The Precise acts to cause those fractures were also Preplanned if the cops were called. Again, Fake pages of writing on a screen. Do you Really believe that Patsy Wrote that note out for the cops? LOL. And you also actually believe that she wrote it out with her Left hand next. LMAO. Why don't You try & Write 3 pages with your Left hand & see how you go. Yawn. Of Course you believe the letter 'samples' were done by Patsy too. Jeez pal, you're just not very bright & you could use some sort of therapy about Common Sense. FYI - the interviews from TV shows were Edited to suit whatever Agenda the producer had going on & as per, back at that time & since, none of their thought processes were in a Positive light towards the either of the Ramseys. The footage is Edited & Fake pages such as those that You included, are put on screen as If Patsy & John are seeing those & answering about Those. Ever heard of 'smoke & mirrors'? The exact same thing was done for their other interviews, certain producers Edited the conversations. Dr Phil pulled that shite also, as well as putting up photos on the screen that Burke did Not actually see. Like the Ramsey's interviews, unless the public know Exactly what happened in relation to Many of the aspects, you don't follow let alone Understand what they're actually talking about as-in Meaning & your perspective is totally Skewed. Then there's the usual, cut them off mid-sentence, as Dr Phill constantly did to Burke. They both denied the writing was Patsy's writing because it Wasn't. The writing on pages on a Desk, that y'all did Not SEE. Yes, they sure were intelligent & very Classy & they faced endless adversity with a whole lot of Dignity. Maybe you could do a course & learn what Exonerated means.

[@TadiKAT]

Same

[@bethryan9077]

Nah, he's just another dhead trying to make Money from the still high profile case by repeating the same old False information about a case that he knows Nothing about & he clearly doesn't have the brain cells to Understand a damn thing about it anyway.

[@dorothyknabe6238]

"The facade of perfection."

[@Isuzu81]

"Keeping Up Appearances", on PBS, is recommended for additional exploration into the psyche of Patsy.

[@elizabethennis9407]

great show

[@ChickyDoodleAnnie]

One thing to consider is that sometimes, when children's toilet habits regress, ie, bedwetting or soiling, it is due to sexual abuse. In fact, any sort of regressive behavior, such as thumb-sucking, crawling, etc, is sometimes attributable to this. Just a thought.

[@archieil]

I'd be much more sure she knew about "child abuse" or something about "sexual behaviors" than that she was in any way molested above the things we know. she was showing a lot of extrovert traits, she was not hiding when sad/having moods.

[@raylenerusthoven9604]

Or just abuse

[@ruthdianneschoch5583]

Exactly. This is very true.

[@bethryan9077]

It is a fact that JB rarely wet the bed & she did Not do that on the night of the 25th, for a start. There were No 'soiling' issues At All. BTW - the earth works like a yo-yo so now you can spread that great story?

[@Jet-h7q]

First thing I thought of, having worked in the criminal justice field for over 20 years.

[@AApr1374Jo1881]

Excellent video.

[@Blissful.1]

This was the best analysis out there! Thank you for such an informative chat #knowledgeispower

[@lisarobbinslauve3825]

Remember in the end it wasn't about jonbenet it was about clearing their name..🤔🤔

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago. BTW - what guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. They put themselves through that in the hope that someone would come forward with information & so, to Save another child. John continues to try & get this case put into the hands of a Competent law enforcement entity & so, Continues to do so, on National TV.

[@bethryan9077]

So, would You want to go to jail for something You didn't do?

[@argosz8046]

A class above the christmas letter is the christmas letter inside a card with a glossy colour pic of the family, hair coiffed, makeup and clothes perfect on the front.

[@LishaV81]

That thing about handwriting was super interesting!

[@tbars1]

Good analogy about the handwriting

[@CokeysCasino]

does Patsy's stage 4 cancer diagnosis maybe excuse/explain some of her behavior as she may be in the mindset of someone who feels they don't have long to live?

[@copicgirl8057]

Your videos are so good, I am so happy the algorithm showed them to me!

[@leahhowell6270]

As someone once said in one of the many discussion threads I've read on this case, the Ramsey's pick the weirdest hills to die on. Maybe that's to do with the maintenance of perfection you mentioned. They take it to the point of absurdity. Thanks for the warning but, I fell down the hole long ago. Good video.

[@williamwinkelmann8554]

Enjoying your insights. I have watched many of your videos now. Good work

[@Lori_Hanna]

I was born and raised in Chicago. When I was 7 my mom moved us to Georgia so we could be near my aunt. This was 35 years ago 😆 this is what connects me to the "pageant world" We had a girl that lived in our new neighborhood. She did pageants and had a house full of trophies. She was about 10 years old. She always had to adhere to certain rules. No messing up hair, break nails, be careful not to get bruised. Had to rehearse daily. I was thinking wth... basically. I asked her why she did it. She explained that it was common in the south. She did say she enjoyed it. Idk if that was true or just had it drilled into her head. So I get why jonbenet did pageants

[@rochellekramer2080]

I read that jonbenet said that she did pageants for her mom. I think that she was cutest when dressed in normal clothes.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rochellekramer2080 From those who Actually knew this child - JB loved performing & she loved doing the pageants.

[@user-wi9hv2pb2q]

the 70s onward pageant world is super bizarre and creepy, making toddlers look like 40 yr olds.

[@BoxofRain-ff4td]

Using the word “hence” is unusual. The usage of “and hence” even more so, as it appears in the ransom note. And this appears yet again in the church memorial written by Patsy for Jon Bennet’s service. I’m not a big believer in coincidence

[@LilithsCosmicLounge]

But someone studied the letter and said it was her. Then later they took it back and claimed the family was innocent 🙄 Just like the first officer that was there reported the Father finding her body was odd because how he was “acting” smh so many red flags in this case of police covering up this case.

[@jennifergiannantonio7764]

@@LilithsCosmicLounge they may have been threatened to recant their claims

[@dennistrull1475]

​@@LilithsCosmicLoungethat's the reverse. Early on an expert said it wasn't her. Later he said it was. Tho he was one of the top in the field they discounted him due to the earlier assessment.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

Thank you so very much this is the second video that I watch the first one was about work and that was very good well done very interesting I believe both children were abused horrible horrific what happened to JonBenet rest in peace

[@bethryan9077]

Firstly, you're just someone else who knows Nothing about this case & so, you have No Clue why John & Patsy said what they did at Any stage & one needs to realise that TV shows are Edited. Next, Patsy did Not write the note & that is a Very well known Fact. The keystone cops 'leaking' to the media that Patsy wrote the note has been The biggest money spinning factor since the very beginning & all the Stories grew arms & legs for headlines & so, into the Imaginations of those in the public domain who are not very bright. Then all the so-called experts who jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money also, from this Still high profile crime & Clearly they're as Daft as each other. Fake writing 'samples' have been on your TV screen from TV shows that had an Agenda for the same reason - $$ & so, onto utube videos & these never ending podcasts full of the same old False information. There were only 3 photos that had writing under them in One album only. Strange yeah? Glenn Meyer wrote under those photos to include some letters, as in the note & to add even spaces in between the words, as in the note - even spaces in between Every word in the note - which None of you have Ever Noticed because people are too lazy to Think. Patsy wouldn't write that stupid crap under her photos & there were no names, where or year. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. The DNA from one of the 2 killers has been in CODIS since 2003. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!

[@tiffanyclark-grove1989]

I’ve read a lot about this case, and looked up as much as I could find on the Internet, but this was still really interesting and unique

[@ashleyswshr]

I am pleased and thrilled and tickled to learn the word braggadocios so thank you for that

[@trishs4503]

I usually toss “Christmas Letters.” Most are terribly obnoxious!!

[@rt66vintage16]

Yeah, I've saved all since the 80s, idk why. People should stop writing those bragging Xmas letters. We're laughing at the letters, sorry.

[@loismailletlynn6079]

those letters make people feel bad about their lives

[@Jet-h7q]

“Dear poor relations, we will now outline the ways we are better than you…..”

[@dextro_daydreams2093]

Goddamn your stuff has given me a kind of introspection that I haven’t even touched with years of therapy. I just started this video, so I might not specifically be talking about this one, but your way of explaining things really clicks in my head. I was diagnosed with BPD , but ( and Im not blaming you for my self diagnosis xD) after listening to your basic explanations of BPD HPD and Antisocial, I realized I probably am histrionic because Im obsessed with attentions and I have no fear of abandonment. Its just super interesting. Maybe that doesnt change anything, but I appreciate your deep dives

[@monilangeKootenays]

Wow, cool comment.

[@Melly_z]

Omg I was thinking the same about the handwriting. As soon as you mentioned "writing with a pen/pencil attachment to your head" I'm over here making the gestures/movements (I wrote the lowercase letter d)

[@jazamaraz8029]

I just stumbled upon this video. I too, did a deep dive on this case years ago. The possible motives for a coverup of JB's lethal injuries at the hands of Burke (yep, that's my theory) in the books I read always seemed insufficient to me. However, when I re-read Patsy's Christmas letter, I had an AaHaa moment. The news about how JB died, would irrecoverably destroy her carefully curated image. Ever since, I have always thought that the best way to explain this case is to simply point to Patsy's Christmas letter and ask, What type of person would write such a letter? After receiving an answer along the lines of 'A person obsessed with self image', then I would ask: And what would that person do when they discovered the nearly dead body of JB at the hands of a revengeful Burke: A. Call 911 B. Get John C. Do whatever needs to be done (e.g. mercy killing and staging the crime scene to point to an unknown villian, contaminate the crime scene by inviting close friends over) to maintain her perfect self image? After getting halfway through this video, it looks like I found someone who thinks a lot like me.

[@alfredvalrie5541]

This kind of work is what this case needs. Not waiting, hoping, and praying on inconclusive DNA.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@charliekane135]

You're right Alfred the DNA was indeed *inconclusive*

[@bethryan9077]

@@charliekane135 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. BTW - Burke, was Never even a suspect. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.* **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that & read it Slowly.

[@bethryan9077]

@@charliekane135 You highly Ignorant kids don't even know that the DNA cleared not only the Ramseys but Loads of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. Doh. The Same DNA continued to Clear suspects. LOL. The DNA that has been in the FBI's national database since 2003. Yawn. The Forensic Scientists continued testing & in 2008, same DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. Next testing in 2016 - Two male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. Get over yourselves, you're just victim bashers who can't Stand being Wwwrong.

[@bethryan9077]

@@charliekane135 No it was Not deary. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. *The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed. Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply. Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since. All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales. *The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.* *Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today. And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.* The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.* The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. *Last year a cold case team were put together via the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They’ve been given the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & they can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, for the same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.* N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their writing, by Handwriting a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, would just plop the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table. More than one keystone cop was a Moron who fantasied about how to get a mansion instead of doing their Job & from there, the breeding of same morons, is evident at all sites about this case. Y’all need to Grow Up.

[@The28thfish]

This has been my favorite analysis of this case.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

Thank you so much great job well done

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@osjjdmmm1]

Thank you for your work. It is very informative and entertaining.

[@mikyl-fo8rh]

Burke appears to be an unwelcomed guest in the Christmas card.

[@JAB914]

Dearest Dr. Van Der Vaart, good morning from Key West. I found you, and I'm grateful. With my interest in true cime, serial murder, familicide, crime in general. I've found it necessary, to further my knowledge, education, understanding about why these various crimes occur. This is where you come in. I see these perpetrators as ill. I always have. Crimes of this magnitude can most often happen to perpetrators that abuse, or are addicted to drugs or alcohol, which is much more easy to understand. Most of us certainly think of inappropriate actions,or behaviors, never to carry them out! I want to understand, to be able to take action, do something. I don't think these murderers should receive the death penalty. We need them alive, so people like you can study them, better understand their behavior, so we can all be that much safer. I thank you for your work, I'll be following you on a regular basis. I find you competent, concise, welcoming, understated. Please keep your videos coming. Sincerely, J Antonio B.

[@AlexaLake7]

Andrew, yes, Patsy created a false self at a young age. She had been in many beauty pageants. As an adult, was she reliving that phase of her life vicariously through JonBenet?

[@bethryan9077]

Right, so jeez, I should have Never put my kids in basketball teams just because I was a great player myself when young. Hmm. I suppose I should have Never let them learn how to swim either because they both aced that sport as well. And so on. Who Taught you how to Type? What a Bad Move That WAS.

[@island4603]

I agree with you, Alexa. The mother made her daughter an extension of herself. All of her dreams and missed of opportunities, she wanted her daughter to fulfill. It’s very narcissistic way of behaving.

[@bethryan9077]

@@island4603 LMAO. Doh. You pitiful victim bashers look for Anything you can Imagine up to run down Beautiful Patsy. Envy is a sin you know.

[@island4603]

@@bethryan9077 we have different opinions on this. No need to be rude or condescending. I’ll leave it at that.

[@bethryan9077]

@@island4603 You are Victim Bashing a proven Innocent woman who is deceased &, who YOU Never Knew. There is Zero need for You to be shamefully rude & pathetically condescending Actually. Now You leave it at That.

[@sueherrod5817]

Andrew you expeess it perfectly , i thought exactly same as you said. The most perfect anbalised mention i seen online yet..

[@Wisteria_Lane]

Great video and great hair! Look forward to more!

[@sally180]

This was fascinating, thankyou for the insight, very enjoyable ❤

[@slumberland969]

New theory after doing a deep dive on this case and watching countless interviews with the Ramseys - I believe Burke accidentally killed JB that night striking out at her after some conflict occurring over the bowl of pineapple - a late snack set out by Patsy when returning home from the Christmas dinner with friends. Burke had a history of striking his sister and she had seen the doctor multiple times leading up to this event. In Burke’s interview with the psychiatrist he grabs and crumples the sleeve of his shirt when shown a picture of the pineapple, triggering obvious trauma. John didn’t witness the accident, but Patsy immediately calls for her husband’s help and after arriving on the scene, he ushers Burke off to bed. After assessing the damage to JB, the parents call a close friend for advice and that friend suggests writing the ransom note and staging a scene to protect their remaining living child. Still in shock, Patsy fixes her daughter’s hair and lays out her favorite nightgown and comfort blanket. John lends help in dictating the note to Patsy while Burke lies in wait in his own bedroom. The entrusted friend takes care of the rest and stages the scene in the basement, allowing for at least some partial surprise and authenticity when John eventually finds her. John & Patsy know more than they reveal hence the obvious discomfort in interviews but do not know the details of what occurred in the final staging since their anonymous friend manipulated everything purposefully without their full knowledge. This friend’s DNA is found on JB removing the parents and Burke from the gruesome (staged) part of the killing. I don’t believe the parents even if one or both had a well-hidden temper would stomach staging their own daughter in such a way but rather in the pattern of cowardly behaviors seen since JB’s death, instructed a friend to do their bidding. The parents were instructed to invite friends over throughout the investigation that first day, and those friends unknowingly contaminated the scene, wiping clean any evidence from the kitchen and dining room. Burke was removed from the situation and put into their friends’ care.

[@Daysleeper1000]

Thank you for such a unique insight. I'm hooked.

[@micheleclifford8969]

My first time here. I’m subscribed, 🥰