The Top 10 Non-MVP Seasons of All Time

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A list of what I think are the most impressive seasons of NBA history that did NOT win the MVP award.
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[@jonnyarnett]

Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/jonny to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment. What’s your top 3?

[@RealClutchMcGee]

Kevin Durant 20-21 is the best obviously

[@reidb6327]

@@RealClutchMcGee huh

[@pogchamp2106]

LeBron averaged 27.5 PPG in the 17-18 season, not 27.2.

[@sportswikipedia5739]

Good video. I enjoy your videos

[@BobJohn-qx8cm]

make more wilt vids

[@zak2809]

I feel like lebron's '06 deserves honorable mention with him averaging 31 7 7 with 50 wins at 21 years of age.

[@dashboardmoney5743]

age doesnt matter in mvp conversations

[@almightyyeezydab5149]

Should’ve won that year if we’re being honest

[@SaintFrenchy]

Could have been the youngest mvp of all time

[@tjrichards9025]

@@almightyyeezydab5149 no he shouldn’t of his team was bad

[@kamuswar184]

@@tjrichards9025 and MVP stands for Most Valuable Player or Most Valuable Team????

[@user-bs2ed8ke6c]

The disrespect to KD at the beginning, lol. Always makes my day when Jonny or Jxmmy uploads.

[@MistaP13]

Was that real? Funny either way.😳😂

[@sparda198]

Completely agree. Best NBA KZbinrs.

[@rainman4766]

Jonny, jxmmy and heat check

[@watdood6905]

@@rainman4766 the three best basketball youtuber

[@rainman4766]

@@watdood6905 absolutely

[@danielbutton3198]

Kobe averaging 35+ ppg in the mid 00's is like Harden averaging 40+ in today's era. The pace was so much slower back then and nowhere near the 3pt attempts compared to present day. I remember watching Kobe that season, it was clear he was now the best player in the league.

[@lukaz1034]

Agree. But considering the amount of threes shot today, I'd say Kobe's 35 ppg is closer to someone averaging 45-50 ppg today.

[@triptychlux]

@@lukaz1034 45-50? lmfao stop it

[@lukaz1034]

@@triptychlux Kobe averaged 35 ppg in a lowest scoring season, when teams averaged only 97 points. And when today team scores below 100 points it is guaranteed loss in 98% of cases. In other words, Kobe scored about 37% of points of his team that year... Yes, 50 ppg is probably too wild, but I needed to put emphasis somehow 🤣

[@666marrin]

Not even 40. More like 50,since teams avg was low + they dont play d,anymore.

[@triptychlux]

you both don't watch games I'm not gonna bother.

[@ryanvangramberg7343]

Chris Paul 08 season where he averaged 21.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 11.6 apg and 2.7 spg on a 57.6% true shooting percentage with a 56-26 record. He was doing this at just 22 years old.

[@yallaretrippin8604]

literally lost it because MVP was a lifetime achievement award that season

[@nounicorns1087]

Kobe never was the clear cut best player in the nba. There was shaq, then duncan, garnett and then lebron.

[@nonyobussiness3440]

@@nounicorns1087 there was tmac, iverson, Yao, Chris Paul, Williams, kidd, Yao, dirk, kg, Shaq, lebron, melo, wade, Dwight, Duncan, billuos leading Detroit, waiters, mj the being off the 2000’s his last season before he got hurt he was averaging 27 ppg. The PF was hella deep. With all those guys balling out during 2000’s. I don’t think Kobe was more impactful on his teams during that era and he certainly didn’t drive them to succeed more then those guys. He also was never the best player.

[@woo_shynen8805]

@@nonyobussiness3440 facts. Kobe never deserved the '08 mvp. Maybe in '06 but I dont think he deserved any more mvp's. Ofc he is a legendary player, but so many players were balling out of their minds in the 2000s impacting their team.

[@killablackmambakbm7593]

Kobe Lakers won more games Kobe was better on defense. Lakers were number 1 in the west. Had gasol for half a season and Bynum for half a season. Got to the finals too

[@tord2354]

"trailing only Wilt Chamberlain" must be one of the most common phrases in the NBA ahah. Great video, Jonny! Keep up the amazing content! :D

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

Anyone who doubts Wilt Chamberlain's greatness should count how often that gets said. And they should note the number of times a stat is quoted incorrectly, such has "Hakeem has the most blocks in NBA history" without the word "official".

[@ahankumar555]

@@UnconventionalReasoning And the amount of times stat records have "since 1972" in them to exclude Wilt Chamberlain

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@ahankumar555 Very true. Though to make it a little less blatant, it seems that many use "since the merger" or "since 1980, the arrival of Magic and Bird".

[@DuranmanX]

Russell said his favorite award was winning the MVP over Wilt when he scored 100 points and Oscar when he averaged a triple double all season

[@brum23]

He deserved it too

[@jackokjack6650]

@@brum23 not a chance

[@mlikonline]

@@brum23 if Steph gets 2nd team all NBA for playing with kd, bill doesn't deserve MVP.

[@floydparr8006]

Russell only won the award because players were jealous of Wilt's dominance. It is like when Rose was given the MVP because everyone was pissed at LeBron for "The Decision." Wilt should have won 9 straight MVPs.

[@CavsFanDallasFanSinceFebruary]

@@floydparr8006 Lol no. Players knew that winning meant more than stats. Wilt dominated the stat sheet, but couldn’t get wins. “But his team was inferior.” If he’s so incredibly dominant as per the stats, he should more than make up for any talent difference. He wasn’t a winner because he preferred stats.

[@tunanorth]

My favorite stat line from Wilt's magical year was his 78 point/43 rebound game.

[@jasonwebb5964]

That's a 3 game total for a star player and he did it in one game. 🤣. That's obscene. I just did the math. 26 ppg and 14.3 rpg would be the average for 3 GAMES to get that total. Wilt was a man among boys.

[@simonbischoff7840]

Which makes a good double double in each quarter

[@dusk6159]

@@simonbischoff7840 Pretty insane production

[@po1odo1o]

There's teams who have failed to match that stat line

[@leolovelife]

I thought his 2nd most pts ever was 73? Where did u get that stat? Source?

[@PumpkinBreath]

You should do “top 10 guys who didn’t regrow hair with Keeps”

[@yea9996]

bron wouldnt be on that list

[@CJ-nn7it]

LeBron would be #1 😐

[@shoukatsukai]

Alex Caruso

[@FusionRider85]

I like how Robertson’s and Wilt’s are both from ‘62. It’s absolutely insane that Russell won MVP that year.

[@brum23]

Shows you how good Russell was. He deserved it.

[@jackokjack6650]

@@brum23 how?

[@facelessandnameless]

@@brum23 I disagree. Russell had by far the best team.

[@tj5180]

@@facelessandnameless people have no idea how valuable Russell was on the celtics

[@the757general2]

@@facelessandnameless Russell was a big reason why the Celtics was so good. He made everyone around him much better. Just look at how they fared before and after him.

[@janiilola6499]

Do top 10 playoff runs that didn't result in a championchip

[@kyleterri5412]

‘01 sixers

[@anonymoususer2080]

Good idea

[@MrNiceGuy1818]

Houston rockets 2018

[@Lord_Jebus]

93-9 warriors

[@brum23]

2002 Sacramento Kings

[@nightnight3064]

Steph Curry 20-21 season was insane he average 32ppg and have ridiculous performances but lack of team success.

[@f.t.sgoldtron7442]

Facts

[@Hazz1405]

He should of won MVP that year over Jokic. He averaged 32/6/6 on almost 40/50/90 with frankly a horrible team with a bunch of G league players. He had the warriors in the 6th seed with 8 games remaining. He missed those 8 games and the warriors went 1-7 and fell Into the Play IN

[@tacho9427]

Wilt was so unfortunate to be playing when he did. No blocks were recorded, no DPOY award yet, and he was basically trapped on his team losing to Bill Russell's stacked Celtics each year.

[@TheDesisgarf]

Honestly Im convinced that if you count blocks, Wilt has AT LEAST 2 triple double seasons

[@emeanuele]

2 quadruple-double seasons you mean? He had 11 bpg for his career, there's no seasons in which he had less than 10 ppg and less than 10 rpg.

[@universalplayz7496]

@@emeanuele not quad since he never had a 10 assist average but got tons of game with 10

[@emeanuele]

@@universalplayz7496 that's just because assists were only direct passes then. Modern assists would certainly be around 10.

[@sir_sack]

@Serhio the blocks aren't confirmed. But he did average 8.8 blocks over a 112 game stretch for the Lakers

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

Wilt would have many more quadruple double games than every other player combined.

[@Jxsteel8]

2006 Kobe season must be there...

[@MichaelCorleone_]

1964 Wilt, the perfect balance between Scoring(1962), Passing (1967) and Defending Wilt (1972). A terror on the defensive end, wilt was also dominant on the offensive end, although reduced his shot selection and opted for a more balanced game. Went to the finals and lost to Russell’s Celtics.

[@anonymoususer2080]

I always heard that wilt was just a ball hog until 1967 and then started chasing assists after that so this is an interesting take

[@revxl722]

@@anonymoususer2080 people always say anything to discredit Wilt so you shouldn't be surprised.

[@arianparker2482]

Wilt will always be in the conversation as The G.O.A.T. The man was a monster.

[@revxl722]

@@arianparker2482 absolute demon on the court yet people always try to find reasons why he wasn't good lol. Like it really doesn't matter the era at all, if anyone in any era averaged 50 points a game they are insane. He could've been playing high schoolers and that would still be ridiculous.

[@arianparker2482]

@@revxl722 I don't disagree. Bill Russell had better teams more often then not vs the whole league. Wilt had to beat a stacked Celtic team all the time.

[@macnolds4145]

Not sure about the order, but after watching my initial impression is that it's a very good list. I feel like Olajuwon's was very underrated, for example.

[@goranACD]

MJ was DPOY while averaging 35 during 1988 season, so the fact regarding Kobe is not correct

[@GeoChalk1981]

Yes! Thank you!

[@davidschmidt1793]

Jordan actually averaged 34.98ppg,which they round up to 35ppg. That's why he didn't mention Jordan. Although,in the end of the day,34.98 and 35 over a whole season is pretty much the same. Not to mention Jordan should've been in the 1st defensive team in 86-87,when he averaged 37.1ppg

[@jonnyarnett]

Exactly. David has is right. It IS absolutely correct, but some people will consider Jordan’s as “close enough”. Whether you want to consider it as only Kobe, or as only Kobe and MJ…. It’s reeeally impressive either way. Haha

[@timtresch4848]

@@jonnyarnett kobe fans will twist any number to make him look superior round down on 9 and 8, out two decimal places to validate one factoid that honestly is pretty cherry picked, theirs no chance Kobe was actually the top SG defender in 05-06 I know he was voted all-first team defense but just like this entire list proves the most deserving player almost never wins the awards, theirs 3-4 lays of narrative that the league puts out every season to "share the love/make sure everyone gets their turn " which is why Westbrook, Iverson and rose all got undeserving MVP's, and how KG, Shaq and Kobe all wound up only getting one each all while Tim Duncan, who from the moment he was drafted till the day he retired dnam near was worthy of a DPOY and never got that because media has to play patty cakes and make sure everyone who ever makes a couple of all star games should be a "serious MVP" for like 2 weeks in November. Night in night out Raja Bell, Iguodala and others where putting in more defensive work at the 2 guard spot in 2005-2006 then kobe who was going nuclear every night on offense, sure maybe you could say a max Kobe defensive effort was better but you can't really commit that hard defensively while carrying your teams offense so hard especially as a guard btw technically Kobe and Jason Kidd tied for the 1st team all defensive guard spot. I would argue night-to-night Kirk Hinrich(who was defending most teams 2 Guards while Ben Gordon was mostly taking the Point guard defensive assignment, Wade, Stephen Jackson and I would even argue Rip Hamilton was close to kobe night in night out even tho Tayson Prince would always draw the tougher defensive assignment and Bruce Bowen was probably the best perimeter defender until lebron over took that title IMO in 2007

[@jacoblee5796]

@@timtresch4848 You had me until the Kobe ONLY has one MVP nonsense. Like you said, players get awards they don't deserve and Kobe didn't deserve the 2008 MVP and there isn't another year Kobe was MVP or deserved it. You are right about Kobe defensively though. Kobe did not put that kind of effort into the defensive side of the ball. He should not of been winning defensive team awards after the 2003. Also Tony Allan was emerging is the best defensive gaurd in the league around 05-06 season. But i do agree with Bruce Bowen, he was a stud defensively and players like Bruce and Tony should be the people winning those awards.

[@joaohenrique7128]

Useless fact about wilt chamberlain: So, we all know that in February 2nd, 1968 wilt had the first 20 20 20 game in NBA history, with 22 points, 25 rebounds and 21 assists, what many people don't know is that, one month later, wilt was 1 ASSIST away of having ANOTHER 20 20 20 game, in that game he had 22 points, 27 rebounds and 19 assists.

[@derrikwilliams2718]

You know he was getting quadruple doubles casually every other game

[@jimjim3979]

' useless '. Poor choice of words

[@joaohenrique7128]

@@jimjim3979 what should I say? Is just a random fact that can't be used for anything, is just cool

[@joaohenrique7128]

@@derrikwilliams2718 yes I do

[@yezzir8929]

Probably had 20 blocked shots too! hahaha

[@not_nathankim]

Still can’t believe Wilt didn’t get MVP with 50+PPG and 25+RPG. Guess the NBA back then had it’s different definitions of “valuable”. Great video Jonny!!

[@wosile]

It was voted by players back then. That's why Bill Russell won it.

[@c99kfm]

Nobody cheers for Goliath.

[@blackphillip564]

You could easily do a video of just MJ's great non-MVP years of '87, '89, '90, '93, '97. He was the best scorer all those years and basically the best defender at his position while playing almost every game. '87 was Magic's year because of Showtime and team success; '89 was because the league was in denial of how great Mike really was; '93 they gave it to Chuck because the Bull had a hiccup in the regular season and only won 54 games; '97 was pure robbery to the point where they gave MJ the '98 MVP just to make up for '97.

[@universalplayz7496]

U could basically say every non laker year by wilt deserved an Mvp because it’s a regular season award and he is by far the greatest regular season player of all time with no competition

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

I think the Kareem snub was the worst. His team still won 60 games that season and he was by far the best player in the league that year. Don't care about voter fatigue, he should have def won the MVP that season.

[@Max-ij2rs]

Tmacs 02-03 season where he averaged 32.1 points 6.5 rebounds 5.5 assist 1.7 steals was nasty

[@tiktokexposed898]

He couldn't stay healthy and that counts against him

[@walterreed5849]

@@tiktokexposed898 that season or his career? cuz he played like 72 games that year

[@tiktokexposed898]

@@walterreed5849 his career

[@tj5180]

@@tiktokexposed898 but he said season lol not his career

[@clevercode30]

@@tiktokexposed898 he didn't get injuries till the 05-06 season

[@trell2100]

you know it’s a good day when jonny upload🙌🏾

[@MisticStyles]

Love your content Jonny! Sincerely, An NBA fan of 30+ years

[@ND-OPS]

Please make top 10 non-DPOY seasons of all time next

[@MyLifeRemixed]

It'll mostly consist of Tim Duncan seasons 😂

[@canbaykal3070]

Pleaseee

[@HashBrown99Gaming]

Definitely Duncan and Pippen on there

[@reimixo]

@@MyLifeRemixed since he ONLY uses One of each person it's probably Jordan Duncan pippen Garnett hakeem Robinson shaq kareem Rodman Kobe? LeBron and Gary Payton?

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

I've been wating for this video for long time. Thank you Jonny, you are the best😁

[@Northsidebaby32]

tbh curry 2021 season shoud have made in the honarable mentions he was averaging 32/5/5 on 48/42/91 splits

[@rapper8737]

hmm tru but no bc due to team record

[@poly_g6068]

It wasn't winning. That's like saying LeBron's 30ppg 2022 season deserves MVP consideration when he was a statue on defense

[@TheCosmosAwaits]

@@poly_g6068they were a 6th seed until he missed 8 games and they went 1-7 and fell into play in. That’s not winning? That’s not valuable to even get an honorable mention?

[@choward5430]

Excellent Jonny! It's not just the information you provide, it's how you articulate it.

[@AH-bm5xs]

I definitely think Michael Jordan’s 1988-89 season should be number 1. But I can forgive giving it to Wilt considering his monstrous numbers, even if it was in the early 60s. I always struggle deciding between MJ’s 1988-89 and 1987-88 seasons, about which one is the best single season in NBA history. Either way, one of those two are definitely number 1 for me and the other is number 2. And in my opinion, MJ should’ve been league MVP almost every full season he played for the Bulls. I give him 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93 and 96. I even take away his 98 MVP though. Going by statistics and more objective measurements, he should have 8 season MVP awards, with 7 consecutive MVPs. Best basketball player of all time for me, no doubt about it, nobody else is even close.🙌🏼

[@ahmadfaisal6267]

🎯

[@lucasrego3874]

That is the problem with the MVP voting because lots of greats deserve WAY more mvps but lost them because another player had a better team record or because of voters fatigue

[@ahmadfaisal6267]

@@sdfishinn 😂

[@ahmadfaisal6267]

@@sdfishinn 🤣

[@tiktokexposed898]

Agreed hes better than everyone except lebron

[@kenari5763]

Thanks for another great video. This channel is amazing. Just a suggestion to improve this video: mention who won the MVP and include their stats for comparison (you did it for some, but not all). Keep up the great work!

[@ExactoKnife]

Haven't watched the vid yet but Bird '88 better be #1. 30 pts 9 reb 6ast on 50 40 90. Edit: 3rd is respectable.

[@grinchoi1]

Compare that to Wilt in 62

[@jubjubhenry5612]

Ye was thinking this exactly. MJ won because he was at peak ball hogging era for him 😂

[@moistsqueegee9567]

Chamberlain never receives the credit he’s due. The man would’ve destroyed the competition in any era, but if he was only born 10 years later, there would be no discussion about who was the GOAT of basketball, because we’d have tapes of almost every game he played.

[@mcdonaldsworker5548]

Will Chamberlain is overrated

[@JonathanPaspula]

@@mcdonaldsworker5548 why? So many people discount his achievements, he seems anything but overrated. If getting his numbers were so easy why has no one done it? Greatness transcends era. Besides, the average heights back in Wilt’s era was virtually the same as to now, so saying he just dunked on gym teachers is just flat out wrong

[@dododump3144]

@@JonathanPaspula his stats were inflated due to his era, he had way more possessions per game and the pace was way faster so he got the ball a lot more than people in any other era. He also played every minute of the game so he got more time than other people to put up those stats and in the playoffs his stats took a drop

[@emeanuele]

@@dododump3144 so just because today is a less talented era in which everybody get tired after a couple of possessions, it's Wilt's fault in Wilt's era otherwise nobody got tired. Come on

[@dododump3144]

@@emeanuele this era is way more talented than his era and it’s not his fault but people overrated him just because he put up stats if you blindly look at stats you won’t get the same conclusion

[@pjtheory]

Wilt Chamberlain's 61-62 season was not only the greatest non-MVP regular season in NBA history, it was the greatest season by an NBA player in both the regular/post-season and the greatest single season performance by a professional athlete in any sport. It's important to note that in that time period, NBA players voted for the league MVP, not basketball writers. Chamberlain was voted by basketball writers as the leagues 1st Team All-NBA center and Bill Russell as the leagues 2nd Team All-NBA center, but the players voted for Russell over Chamberlain as the league MVP. My guess is that the players who voted for Russell either focused on the Celtics TEAM winning more games or they were healing their egos after being embarrassed by the Big Dipper. Jonny covered all of Wilt's insane numbers and the Warriors winning a then team record 49 games, but in the 62 playoffs, Wilt continued to play incredible basketball. In 12 playoff games, Chamberlain averaged 35.0 points, 26.6 rebounds, and 3.1 assists. In the deciding Game 5 of the 62 East playoffs, Wilt put up the greatest single game playoff stat line in NBA history. The following stat line came at the expense of 3 time all-star center Johnny "Red" Kerr...56 points, 35 rebounds, 1 assist, and 12 blocked shots. In the East Finals, the loaded Celtics were favored to win in 4 or 5 games, but Chamberlain battled league MVP Bill Russell to the final seconds of Game 7. In Game 7, Wilt blocked 14 shots and scored the Warriors last 5 points to tie the game at 107, but Sam Jones, not the league MVP, won the game with a jump shot at the buzzer. Considering the competition, this was arguably Russell's finest playoff series, yet Chamberlain also had an outstanding series on both ends of the floor...Russell 22.0 points, 25.8 rebounds, .398 from the field...Chamberlain 33.6 points, 26.8 rebounds, .468 from the field.

[@Says_me]

Keep doing the good work Johnny. Bias free analysis and commentary is a previously rare commodity. I love it.

[@UNBEaTABLe64]

Love the video but it would've been cool to see the stats for the players that did end up winning MVP that season too

[@tom51202]

Yeah you'd think it'd be common sense to put them in. In one he didn't even say who actually won it lol

[@jp3813]

The MVP races between MJ, Bird, & Magic during the '87 & '88 seasons were the greatest, imo.

[@universalplayz7496]

The 1962 was def the best mvp race that top 3 in terms of stats is just unmatched

[@jp3813]

@@universalplayz7496 Legit candidate.

[@zorskins]

That Jordan post up in the opening where he fakes out David Wesley (I think?) Shakes and shoots over Anthony Mason with that beautiful fade away is just beautiful

[@tj5180]

That was anthony Mason

[@zorskins]

@@tj5180 yes

[@aaronvirdee5813]

The 18-19 Harden one still hurts me to this day- TO THIS DAY! TO THIS DAAYYYY!!! (Deontay Wilder meme)

[@thsu8]

It's a complete joke that Giannis won the 2019 MVP over Harden. Other years at least had viable debates.

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

@@thsu8 Giannis team had a better record, he was great on offense and extremely dominant on defense, something you can never say about Harden. Giannis def deserved that award. Maybe the NBA needs an offensive player of the year award like the NFL. They already have a defensive player of the year award.

[@patrickpritchard7667]

This video is solid 🙌🏽 but would be waaaay better if we got the stats of the MVPs that won it that season. I was interested to see Giannis is stats after hearing Hardens for that season

[@piusherbert]

ive been hyped up for this vid since the community post lol

[@JStarNewYrk]

8:46 Didn't MJ do the same in 1988? 35+ PPG, 1st Team All-Defensive, plus DPOY

[@jonnyarnett]

34.98. Most sites just round it up to 35. If you say that’s close enough, I won’t argue it. www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_season.html

[@JStarNewYrk]

@@jonnyarnett fair enough. Thx :)

[@EricGraham1987]

I've seen this video like 3x. Great content and KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheDesisgarf]

I have a crazy Wilt theory for you Jonny From the 112 games that he has blocks recorded, he averaged 8.8 blocks, but this was OLD Wilt Meaning that in his prime he couldve averaged more. Also, in the 66-67 season with Philly, he dedicated himself more to team play and defense, meaning that he couldve easily averaged over 10 blocks that season, thus being just 1.4 APG shy of averaging a quadruple double.

[@tunanorth]

Interesting thought, and probably true!

[@thompsonappliance3078]

8.8 block shots in his later years. Wilt was a beast

[@khaliljelliti6751]

I can say that I at least heard Wilt's name at least 7 or 8 times in this video that tells how great he was

[@bruceleeroy8302]

Thanks for this video! *You're the real MVP!*

[@turbosraigeturbonitro3370]

Video idea: top 10 season of all time including playoffs. Love you vids btw ❤️

[@connorcox3066]

next video should be the best non-dpoy season of all time

[@evandupree6085]

Fun fact: Wade is the only person on this list who never ended up winning a regular season MVP. I think it’s pretty clear he’s the best player to never win one.

[@garrettlittle5335]

Elgin Baylor ,Jerry west ,elvin hayes , John havlicek ,John stockton,Scottie pippen are all better than wade.

[@evandupree6085]

@@garrettlittle5335 nah Wade’s better than all of those guys

[@AustinMulkaMusic]

@@garrettlittle5335 disrespect to Wade. Wades peak was higher than all of them and I’m not sure any of their longevity + peak is great enough to surpass that except for maybe Stockton or Pippen.

[@AustinMulkaMusic]

@@garrettlittle5335 but Stockton never had a championship

[@tj5180]

@@garrettlittle5335 shouldnt be a debate and I agree but not pippen tho.

[@haunter93til]

This is cool concept. A video for same thing but with DPOY would be cool. Looking back at footage and season numbers I don't know how Hakeem doesn't have 5-6 DPOY awards. Not just his consistent blocks and steals but consistently holding his man to lower fg% and stats that aren't on the sheet like deflections, disruptions or shot alterations. Growing up playing handball came in handy lol

[@h0me344]

you tha real MVP Jonny 🙌🏾

[@lukaslambs5780]

Seeing the video title having not gotten past the epic advertisement (love the transitions btw) and I would bet my last dollar this list will feature almost all Wilt Chamberlain. Never mind you just said one per player 😂

[@jlee562]

You should've showed the stats of the MVPs that the snubs lost to for comparison purposes. I love your vids btw!!! Keep em rollin jonny!!!

[@jonnyarnett]

yeah, you're probably right. I didn't, because I didn't want to make it seem like those players definitely shouldn't have won MVP, I was more just wanting to give credit to the runner ups for their amazing seasons. Idk, maybe I just overthought it a bit. haha. Thanks for supporting my channel as always!

[@brum23]

This wasn’t a list of snubs though

[@karanveerdhillon7867]

My top 10(No order): CP3 08, Wade 09, Jordan 87, LeBron 2018, Curry 2021, Harden 2019, Kobe 06, Wilt 62, Oscar 62, Duncan 99

[@pasigiri]

0:28 whoa!!! man. Dat transition yo.

[@VincentVincent_89]

2018 lebron was a monster. The first time he’s been truly “alone” since 2010 cavs, with all that talent and knowledge of the game through all those playoffs run he was on another league compared to everyone that year.

[@alexanderadonyae7937]

Facts✔ and that was his last dominate season athletically! He was still great after but you can tell he didn't have the same springs on his knees like before

[@VincentVincent_89]

@@alexanderadonyae7937 now he’s dominating the game without a bounce, with more 3s and a more genius game to him, sadly the team isn’t clicking

[@20_foot_burmese_pyth0n]

2018 postseason LBJ was a monster. Man reminded the Raps and Pacers where they stand relative to him.

[@VincentVincent_89]

Update the team isn’t clicking what so ever with us being under 500 by 4 games, I want to comeback to this comment and say “damn lakers really figured it out” but I’m doubtful which I never am for lebron…

[@facelessandnameless]

Bird’s 88 season was MONSTROUS 🔥

[@TimWing23]

1993-94 David Robinson had a career year he led the NBA in scoring averaging 29.8 PPG. He also led in Win Shares with 20, led in Win Shares/48 with .296. also NBA high 11.4 VORP & 30.7 PER. He came in 2nd, won MVP the next year with slightly lower numbers.

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

This was good, can we get a list for non-MVP finals performances?

[@TheNeeks6]

Great list. I think you could argue that Jordan’s ‘90 season might be greater than 89’. He was a more complete scorer(made the 3 part of his repertoire), just as productive everywhere else. Most importantly, he carried that team to the 2nd best record in the east(55W). Many of those were close games against rivals that the Bulls had no business winning if MJ wasn’t a monster or his late game heroics. This includes a 69/18/6 game and more..

[@Hazz1405]

Any of those years tbh. The late 80s and early 90s MJ is by FAR the highest peak of a player ever. Scoring playmaking and defending at an all time level 🐐

[@hjcolon24]

You also can't forget that if Larry had one MVP that season, it would have been his fourth straight, an all time record

[@Nick-qq7lk]

As always nice content. Like.

[@Juice_plz]

The harden one is understandable because of because of far his defense ability was from his offensive output. Dude also took a gross amount of shots no wonder he scored so much

[@jonatanbarrang4353]

Absolutely 2020-21 Steph Curry Should be in the top 10 list! From productivity viewpoint. this season was better than his unanonimous MVP season and to adding that he gained his full confidence after after have an injury season. it is the best non MVP season since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant it could be arguably to be an exception for winning MVP without have a dominant team winning record.

[@busbus356]

He didn’t even put him on the honorable mention smh

[@ericlittle2369]

We need another video like this for Unanimous MVP snubs. 86 Bird, 87 Magic, 96 Jordan, 2000 Shaq and 2013 Lebron all come to mind. Curry never should’ve been the first one.

[@ov.1773]

Lebron was one biased new york media member’s vote away from actually being the first.

[@ericlittle2369]

@@ov.1773 Shaq was one vote away in 2000.

[@ov.1773]

@@ericlittle2369 oh was he? I had no idea, just saw a video ages ago about how some guy from the New York post or something of the sort voted for melo instead of Lebron

[@andrethomas9872]

Great list

[@titangrizzly7832]

Love your videos, but I think you should start looking into using true shooting and relative true shooting (true shooting compared to the league average that year) to look at how efficient someone was as a scorer for a specific season

[@oldeskoolnewsreels9927]

FG add(FG points added) and TS add(TS points added) do that. It is an adjusted shooting analytic. It's based upon volume and efficiency. The higher the score, the more efficien relative to the "average" player that year. It's a valid stat, but no one mentions it for obvious reasons. FG Add and TS Add take into account volume and efficiency FG Points Added Top Seasons Career Wilt(67) Wilt Wilt(62) Kareem Wilt(63) Shaq Kareem(72) Gilmore Kareem(71) Bellamy Wilt(61) Barkley Wilt(66) Lebron Wilt(64) R. Miller Wilt(68) D. Howard Curry(16) S. Curry TS Points Added Top Seasons Career Kareem(72) Kareem Curry(16) Gilmore Kareem(71) Wilt Wilt(67) Oscar Barkley(88) R. Miller Wilt(62) Dantley Dantley(84) Barkley Durant(13) K.Malone Oscar(64) Shaq Durant(14) West

[@user-kn7bl5yv3d]

Kobe's one of my favorite players of all time. But I think CP3 should have won the MVP award in 2008. Chris Paul had significantly higher PER, Win Shares, Offensive & Defensive Rating, and Plus/Minus. His assist-to-turnover ratio was insane. 11.6 APG with only 2.5 TO. Not to mention the Hornets won 56 games (2nd seed in the WC) with David West being the team's second best player. If Kobe had already won an MVP award prior that season, I'm pretty sure they would have given the award to CP3.

[@tj5180]

Kobe was the mvp. Better on both ends also gasol and byum were injured. Gasol was traded to Lakers and only played 27 games. Cp3 had a good team and supporting cast. David west wasn't a bum also their defense

[@micahkiyimba8641]

The top 3 seasons are crazy..How did Jordan Not get MVP on 32-8-8 2stl? How did Wilt not get MVP on 50-25-5?

[@thsu8]

Because some voters, unlike you, are smart enough to recognize stat padding.

[@Kingbossdon]

I like that u put Kevin Durant 2013 James Harden 2015 LeBron 2008 Michael Jordan 1993 and Chris Paul season as honorable mentions because those seasons from them was on a different level. Glad u also gave D-Wade some love for his 2009-2010 season because he put that work in. Johnny big fan of the video 📹

[@camdengrant2948]

You should make a video on like the top 10 second option seasons or something like that

[@tonywong8134]

To be fair, Magic, MJ, and Bird (whom during a 9 year span each won 3 MVPs) had at least 2 cases during those years in which they were "robbed" on MVP.

[@jp3813]

The video isn't necessarily about being robbed of an MVP, but being a great non-MVP season.

[@averyce2]

The Big Dipper's 1961-62 season is the worst case of "Snubbery". The Dream's 1992-93 season is a 2a The Mamba's 2005-06 season is a 2b Kareem's snub was only based on voter fatigue as you mentioned

[@melvynsngltn27]

Kobe didn't deserve it

[@trollsworstnightmare3769]

@@melvynsngltn27 neither did Nash

[@TheEbencredit19]

Kareem's rookie season. Check out his numbers vs. Reed. Another LEGENDARY SNUB

[@aristosachaion1057]

Very good list. Could not argue against it.

[@justsayin669]

If this is just based on the regular season which he said it is since the MVP award is based on the regular season, then KG's 2002-03 season definitely should have made this list. His best teammates that season were Wally Szczerbiak, Rasho Nesterovic, Troy Hudson and Anthony Peeler... His best teammate Szczerbiak missed 30 games yet KG still led the T-Wolves to a 51-31 record. That is INCREDIBLE! He led that poor roster to that record while averaging... *KG 2002-03* : 23.0ppg on 50.8eFG% (55.3TS%) 13.4rpg 6.0apg 2.8TOVs 1.4spg 1.6bpg ...in the slowest paced era in NBA history. KG's 2002-03 and 2003-04 seasons are two of the very best overall seasons of all-time in terms of individual performance and in terms of helping his team overachieve.

[@2911_j_s]

08/09 D.Wade easily to remember return from injury and winning Olympics Gold And Scoring Title

[@tevincollins2869]

Should of been mvp they were in love with Lebron but wade balled out more than Lebron and Kobe that year

[@2911_j_s]

@@tevincollins2869 yeah,before bosh and james recruitment he carry the team on his own

[@greg2797]

Wilt is literally video game status in everything lol dude always on the top

[@j.d.wilkes7189]

Please post a video where you are talking about NBA legends’s best games (like Kobe’s 81 point game, Wilt’s 100 point game, MJ in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals, etc.)

[@Bilaldane]

Surprised Steph 2021 season wasn't even an honourable mention

[@younghova7657]

Didnt even make playoffs

[@Bilaldane]

@@younghova7657 yh right that's all his fault

[@zalanvancsura7173]

For me 93 Jordan is the best version of him, so that has to be in for me

[@jasonwebb5964]

I don't know man Barkley had a monster year in 93. As good as Jordan was every year, you take Barkley off that suns team and they're a 4-5 seed at best. Chuck was more valuable to his team that year.

[@alexolds9840]

'88 was definitely better if you ask me.

[@anonymoususer2080]

91 Jordan was his best imo

[@carlosvaldez3093]

91 jordan

[@javigar133]

MJ could be listed 5 times lol

[@cadecrusader3940]

Thank you Jonny for this video!

[@antanasstanys2538]

Whoa 😧 that analysis on Kobe's season was on another level

[@chago3165]

Harden deserved that mvp over Giannis, Giannis had a better record because his team didn't have injured teammates other than Brogdon. Harden was starting Isiah Hartenstein who just came over from the rgv vipers G-league. He lost CP3, Gerald Green, Eric Gordon, lost House to contract issues and he was sent to the G-league, lost Clint Capela. And was able to tie the record for 3rd in the west. Giannis' season was great but he didn't have the load Harden had to deal with. MVP IS ALL NARRATIVES and Giannis just had the better one due to him being a golden boy of the NBA like Curry for example. I love Giannis and I loved his finals run but Harden deserved! that MVP

[@jasonmoukala8909]

Yeah no. Mvp is not about narrative and individual stats. It’s about having most impact on their teams success. Also Giannis dominated on both sides of the floor and was way more efficient and impressive than harden

[@chago3165]

@@jasonmoukala8909 ol it is about Narrative, if you don't think that you're stupid. Also does that mean giannis is automatically better than Durant cuz hes better defensively? No? Stop. Harden had to take the shots where giannis had a healthy team? Plus giannis is a big man, I'd want him 2 be more efficient since he doesn't shoot or isn't as small as Harden. 😂

[@ODMUSH]

I love this topic and this video, however this would be my top 10: 10. 09 wade 9. 73 Kareem 8. 88 bird 7. 19 harden 6. 93 Hakeem 5. 18 lebron 4. 06 kobe 3. 62 Oscar 2. 89 Jordan 1. 62 wilt

[@melvynsngltn27]

Take Kobe off. Dirk was a better candidate

[@ODMUSH]

@@melvynsngltn27 nah, 35 ppg in a low scoring era, being the best guard in the league and best both ends of the court and carrying a bad roster...

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@ODMUSH taking 35 shots per game

[@josephmangini465]

Good list, however you forgot John Havlicek's 1970-71 and 1971-72 seasons. I never saw a more most valuable player. This remarkable athlete and man has been left off many lists. Highly underrated.

[@kincamell2]

Heavy Gratitude for sharing Ps Jordan 1993 and Kobe 2003

[@-_--gr7ni]

Steph 2020-2021 season was phenomenal. Even if the record was bad the individual performance by Curry was almost identical to his unanimous mvp season.

[@omarhasan03]

I believe it ended up better than his unanimous MVP season.

[@-_--gr7ni]

@@omarhasan03 ig one thing is both seasons fell short in the end🥲

[@mikeevans4341]

So you are saying that Wilt possibly averaged a 50 point triple double in a season without assists?

[@teofemo7000]

Magic Johnson 1981-2 campaign was very tumultuous but after the fallout from getting Westphal canned Magic went on to have a legendary season. His regular season was all around brilliance with roughly 19ppg, 9.5 rebounds 9.5 assists. Not only that he found found a way to contribute on the defensive side of the ball by leading the NBA in steals. Not only was he effective playing the passing lanes but he could guard 4 positions and Johnson was also the key to the Lakers nifty new half court trap with 6-8 height. More or less the man averaged a triple double and league the league in steals.

[@brianholleran6340]

i dont put his 8th place in mvp race in the same category of what is being talked about here.. now if you were talking bird who was 2nd i would get it but this isn't really a yr where you can argue against the winner moses...

[@dwaynewade3711]

You should do a list of most entertaining teams to watch. Examples would be the 06 suns, lob city, showtime... Etc

[@JSalonsky]

Hakeem won DPOY while averaging 26 a game with 4 assists.. wow..

[@ranholic5027]

@@sonza68 the highest scoring season by DPOY winner of all time

[@melvynsngltn27]

The next year David Robinson averaged 29.8ppg with 4.8ast

[@3631956406]

This is a guess before watching the video... But the 62 season has to be one of them. Update:. I knew it!!! Oscar and Wilt 62 season were magic.

[@GabrielXander]

This is gonna b goooood

[@JonCom3dy]

80s Jordan was so insane.

[@Psiros]

Honest Feedback: Would have loved to have seen a stat comparison of who won the MVP for all of them. Especially, Oscar Robertson finish 3rd? How good were the other two 😂 Love the videos!

[@jonnyarnett]

I appreciate it! If and when I make similar videos, I'll include the other stats as well

[@dc7236]

Well that Wilton Chamberlain snubb came in the same year as Oscar Robertson

[@JSalonsky]

Even though Harden had 5+ turnovers a game that season his stats are actually unreal

[@cabraraptor1]

Honorauble Mentions: *Shaq 00/01:* 28.7 ppg/ 12.7 rpg/ 3.7 apg/ 2.8 bpg/ 57.2 FG% *David Robinson 93/94:* 29.8 ppg/ 10.7 rpg/ 4.8 apg / 3.3 bpg/ 50.7 FG% (71 point game and quadruple doble game) *Bob McAdoo 73/74:* 30.6 ppg/ 15.1 rpg/ 2.1 apg/ 1.2 spg/ 3.3 bpg/ 54.7 FG% *Chris Paul 08/09:* 22.8 ppg/ 11.0 apg/ 5.5 rpg/ 2.8 spg/ 50.3 FG%

[@jacintobriceno1775]

Next video like this can you put a comparison of stats to who they lost too.

[@pierococo4680]

Steph not even being an honorable mention for his 2021 season is disrespectful