Top 10 Good & 7 Bad Changes in The Thousand Year Door Remake (Paper Mario)

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Күн бұрын

Hi everyone and welcome back to my Paper Mario coverage! I've just wrapped up Paper Mario Month so be sure to check some of those fun videos out. Today I'm talking about the 10 things I loved, and 7 things I was less enthusiastic about in The Thousand Year Door remake. Do you think the original or the remake are better? Let me know in the comments, and be sure to subscribe!
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@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Hey everyone! Thanks for watching! Let me know which game you prefer and don't forget to subsribe. I have a tonnnn of Paper Mario stuff uploaded this past month.
@guythomas5275
@guythomas5275 3 ай бұрын
Man where did you get your shirt it's amazing ❤
@Jay7707
@Jay7707 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making a very hypocritical video.
@WayWardWonderer
@WayWardWonderer 3 ай бұрын
No mention of Luigi appearing on the title screen once you buy all of his books? Shameful.
@dbv8600
@dbv8600 3 ай бұрын
The reason for the train switches thing is that it is supposed to be funny! As a kid I was easily amused and I laughed a lot at this. The train station looks realitively realistic, the 1st switch looks exactly like what you would expect from an old fashion train switch and for a breif moment I forgot I was playing a Mario game much less a Paper Mario game. But then at the very end they throw in an unrealistic and stereotypical Mario switch with a cartoony reveal and I was broght back to reality or non-reality as I laughed and said oh that kind of switch!
@BrokenKeyboard14
@BrokenKeyboard14 2 ай бұрын
I think I love you 😳
@llamaboy
@llamaboy 3 ай бұрын
I sort of just assumed that the switch thing in riverside station was intended as a joke - you expect that physical switch to be the one to close the drawbridge, only for it to completely arbitrarily summon a new button which is the one that actually closes it - and contradicting sensible design, won’t allow it to be opened again
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 3 ай бұрын
That's a good take on it.
@evanseifert8858
@evanseifert8858 16 күн бұрын
The fact that it's so unnecessarily elaborate is kinda funny.
@christopherrobbins2600
@christopherrobbins2600 3 ай бұрын
21:33 I also miss the scream the audience members would make when you'd hit them, usually the x-nauts. I was disappointed to see that missing from the remake
@FlickyShot
@FlickyShot 3 ай бұрын
Yup I agree! another unnecessary change...
@nicolemonrue
@nicolemonrue 3 ай бұрын
I noticed that too yesterday when I played the original....wondering why did they take that out?! It's hilarious
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
@@nicolemonrue I can only guess since all characters use a unique sound instead of generic sounds, they probably didn't think of making "scream" versions of each audience's sound.
@Obstagoon862
@Obstagoon862 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason you use the Switch keyboard when naming the baby Yoshi is so that you can't name him anything inappropriate.
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 3 ай бұрын
but you can name doopliss assface and the game just pretends you didn't
@PianistTanooki
@PianistTanooki 3 ай бұрын
Definitely not the case. I named him Dick Wad in my first playthrough of the original game (don’t ask, I was a teenager), and have defaulted to that name every time I replay the game. I decided to try that name in the remake to keep the tradition going… and it worked! So I don’t think there are any filters there.
@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf
@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf 3 ай бұрын
@@PianistTanookiMaybe it thinks you mean the name Dick?
@somerobloxdude3699
@somerobloxdude3699 3 ай бұрын
@@nascour5991honestly he deserved that
@captianblitz
@captianblitz 3 ай бұрын
It might be a technical thing. Doopliss and the fortress door are a “do it once and forget” input. Yoshi is a permanent addition to the dailouge, so it might need to be something refrencable in Switch OS. I don’t know WHY, but it’s just a guess
@NotsilYmerej
@NotsilYmerej 3 ай бұрын
The best part about the fast travel is the pipe between Twilight Town and Creepy Steeple, eliminating the last two trips.
@darkestmoonoriginal
@darkestmoonoriginal 3 ай бұрын
The… what!? Where is this pipe? I was dying with the backtracking 😅
@NotsilYmerej
@NotsilYmerej 3 ай бұрын
@@darkestmoonoriginal farthest house that’s still in town, it connects to the hallway just out of Dooplis’ secret room (with the parrot and letter p), there’s a super hammer block that wasn’t in the original blocking the steeple end of the pipe. It only eliminates the last two trips, the trip back to town alone, and second trip to the steeple (the first one with just Vivian) are still required
@darkestmoonoriginal
@darkestmoonoriginal 3 ай бұрын
@@NotsilYmerej aahhh yes I remember that pipe now, when I first found it and tried to go through it it said that the pipe rejected me or something similar. I then forgot about it. I’ll keep it in mind for my next playthrough, thanks for explaining!
@NotsilYmerej
@NotsilYmerej 3 ай бұрын
@@darkestmoonoriginal I realized after using the pipe under the block, I didn’t remember it from the original
@Nyahahameha
@Nyahahameha 3 ай бұрын
@@darkestmoonoriginal How in blazes did you manage to miss it?! You literally can't exit the Steeple after getting the letter "p" without breaking the block it's hidden under! O.o
@levthelion71810
@levthelion71810 3 ай бұрын
Other random changes I feel like are worth noting: The danger sound now fades out after a few seconds Yoshi feels not great to control now You can hear luigi cheering when he is in the audience, which is cool
@exode7414
@exode7414 2 ай бұрын
No yoshis good to control but I mis his noise he'd make in original
@MorosSilverwing
@MorosSilverwing Ай бұрын
@@exode7414 i also enjoyed Yosh's control and noticed the lack/change in sound. but all I could feel on that was the silver lining is that it's less obnoxious than the original.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
yeah they gave him acceleration rather than instantly changing his speed, kind of like Majora's Mask 3D's Deku Shrub, BUT Yoshi does feel like he moves a lot faster now than before. It takes some getting used to though. Especially when lining up jumps. Definitely hit or miss.
@OriginalElysian
@OriginalElysian 3 ай бұрын
I had no idea people called TEC "T-E-C". That's just...wrong. It's TEC! TEC! Pronounced like "tech"! Also, regarding the Riverside station switch/blue switch. I always liked that. It was a big joke. You think the realistic looking switch will be THE switch, but no, it just gives you access to the real switch...which is a Mario-esque blue ! switch. I love it!
@RedStoneMatt
@RedStoneMatt 3 ай бұрын
Here's an uninteresting fact for you: in the french localization, TEC is literally called Tech, so I agree with you!
@itslegiTim
@itslegiTim 3 ай бұрын
​@@RedStoneMatt same goes for the german localization. His Name is also "Tech" over here.
@RedStoneMatt
@RedStoneMatt 3 ай бұрын
@@itslegiTim Interesting. I wonder how it is in the OG Japanese
@snausages43
@snausages43 3 ай бұрын
I remember the Game Grumps called him T-E-C. It really bothered me.
@snausages43
@snausages43 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@RedStoneMattIt’s テック (Tekku) in Japanese, which is how they say “tech.”
@brandonbranchaldo8079
@brandonbranchaldo8079 3 ай бұрын
The Riverside Station drawbridge switch leading to a theatrical blue box is a visual gag. It's a joke. And every time I see footage of it, I laugh. I don't think I need to explain the joke any further, I know you get it. But the point was for the developers to play off the player's faculty for logic and deliver a quick little comedic bit. This is also how other speedrunners and challenge runners of the game have seen it, though I'm not sure all of them do or find it as funny as I do lol.
@brandonbranchaldo8079
@brandonbranchaldo8079 3 ай бұрын
I did not see @llamaboy's comment before I wrote this but yea, same. I should add that having someone man the station who is too afraid to go into the station to operate the bridge is also just as absurdly comedic.
@njyankeesfan
@njyankeesfan 3 ай бұрын
I really miss the loud crowd reactions. Used to make you feel more immersed in the battle.
@FlickyShot
@FlickyShot 3 ай бұрын
Fax that shit got me hyped up back in the day! What a shame they did unnecessary changes
@jamiecal11
@jamiecal11 3 ай бұрын
Also, anyone else notice how much more annoying it is when you have to hit someone in the crowd now? Just feels like busywork rather than something you detect naturally.
@ShyGuyXXL
@ShyGuyXXL 3 ай бұрын
They don't even clap at the end of a battle anymore. Hearing the battle won jingle without the clapping is so weird...
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 3 ай бұрын
The massive crowd made the late game bosses feel so much bigger and grand than they had any right being, and it's a really bad fumble imo to be missing out on that. It really made you feel how far you've come since the beginning of the game too.
@Pearl_Blossom
@Pearl_Blossom 3 ай бұрын
The character name: "TEC," like "tech" JoPro: "teee eee sceee"
@FizzyCocoaMan
@FizzyCocoaMan 3 ай бұрын
only thing i didn't like is that you STILL can't find crump and grodus post game..
@freshphilip410
@freshphilip410 3 ай бұрын
26:50 this is one of the games best examples of it’s sometimes dry sense of humor. after getting through the whole station, you finally find the big important looking switch, and it’s actually just a switch to reveal another generic looking switch
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
That makes sense! I never saw it that way haha. Definitely very silly.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
@@JoProGaming Hehe sometimes you just gotta learn to laugh when the world acts silly. Given many people feel that way, I'm glad you found the humor in it too! XD
@oddishsmile7368
@oddishsmile7368 3 ай бұрын
My best guess for the extra save blocks is that they were added because the switch is supposedly portable, but also its original model has a battery life of 2 hours. I have become very familiar with the pitiful battery life of the Nintendo Switch.
@sonicthehedge
@sonicthehedge Ай бұрын
They could of added temporary quicksaves like every other game though.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
@@sonicthehedge I'd have liked that... my game randomly crashed after getting to the end of Chapter 3 just before the Grubba fight....and i had to redo ALL of chapter 3... cause I didn't save. What I'd have GIVEN for an auto save that you could load from if you didn't hit the save block like Mario RPG remake had (heck when you die and game over, you get something similar where it starts you in the previous room you just entered, so auto save technically existed). After that I literally hit every save block at every point just out of fear it'd crash again.
@CaelenSawyers
@CaelenSawyers 3 ай бұрын
It’s so aggravating that they have the capability of having fast, skippable text IN GAME already. Example being when Frankie says I love you 100x. I can positively say speedrunners and mega fans are not going to be as drawn to replaying this version repeatedly if they don’t allow text skipping. Period.
@sunnyta1990
@sunnyta1990 3 ай бұрын
Maybe people can petition to get Intelligent Systems to enable it as an option
@robertlauncher
@robertlauncher 3 ай бұрын
I do like shipping my text
@CaelenSawyers
@CaelenSawyers 3 ай бұрын
@@robertlauncher lol fixed ty
@robertlauncher
@robertlauncher 3 ай бұрын
@@CaelenSawyers I’m sorry I couldn’t help myself
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 3 ай бұрын
The game clearly doesn’t respect your time and forces you to sit through dialogue the very first time and I can see this hurting the want to replay the game after beating it once, if it had a text speed option and snappier quick menu selection then this would be a perfect remake, but hey nothing and nobody is perfect.
@intrepid1160
@intrepid1160 3 ай бұрын
20:46 The replacement of the sound for presenting a crystal star to the the Thousand Year Door has to be one of the worst changes, the GameCube version stood out so much.
@undertaker150000
@undertaker150000 3 ай бұрын
I wish the remake let people read messages they missed just like in the old game. Mostly for the speed text moment with shop keeper's wife in Twilight town. Ya know?
@sbkeel5639
@sbkeel5639 3 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing I remember I just rewound her text speech which was very funny to read! Missing the shopkeeper's wife's speech is a game crime!
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, I noticed there's no "Rewind text" feature in this game, despite one being in the original version. I missed some text I wanted to read cause I was tapping too fast (I thought the character was done with their speech but they weren't) and skipped the next box. Kind of strange.
@nickk3077
@nickk3077 3 ай бұрын
I wish that they didn't remove the ability to name your profiles. I thought that was a cool feature from the original.
@ProxyHaxOO
@ProxyHaxOO 3 ай бұрын
I actually like the checkpoint system in the game. Yes, if you lose in the pit, you would normally have to start all over, but it's a nice, less frustrating change. I remember dying at the very end several times in the original game and had to start all over again. Having to spend an additional hour or so to do it over again was very disheartening. This is a very welcome change.
@devin5124
@devin5124 3 ай бұрын
If you play the old game on dolphin emulator, you can add in save states to restart from, and you can enhance the graphics a good bit
@Pearl_Blossom
@Pearl_Blossom 3 ай бұрын
It's definitely not the "baby easy mode" this person is making it out to be, not going back to the start means you have to live with any mistakes you made in the preparations and the previous battles that lead you to losing. It's a time save if you lost due to a few mechanical fumbles in the same battle, but if you lost from coming in unprepared, mismanaging your resources, or growing exhausted by the length of the pit then not going back to the start is an active hindrance
@randomjar6934
@randomjar6934 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t even know about this change. I never completed the pit before this remake, but did it on my first try both times. It was a lot more intense thinking I had to restart. Glad I found this out after I already beat the secret bosses.
@SuperSimmerGal
@SuperSimmerGal 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I remember many times getting near the bottom of the pit (which took me at least two hours) and then dying and having to restart from the top. I'm glad they went the Mario & Luigi route there (the later games in that series also allow you to retry battles- or even retry them in easy mode). Plus it's entirely optional, so if you want the challenge of the OG game, you can.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
@@Pearl_Blossom Every time I hear someone say "Baby mode is not wasting an HOUR of your life because the enemy had a Stop watch item and you didn't destroy them in one turn" I seriously have to question if they still go to school or do thier parents pay for them to sit at home playing video games all day.... Remind me of the pokemon elitists who preferred when the only way to get Max IVs and EVs was to hatch eggs for days straight and still to this day complain about the new EXP share mechanic as if we don't just farm raids and get our pokemon to Level 100 that way....as if there's ANY reason to not have a pokemon at level 100. Just time wasting elitism...
@Toadthefungi
@Toadthefungi 3 ай бұрын
I agree with some of the old sound effects being removed, especially the sounds for FP and HP those are so iconic and now they are both just replaced with generic healing sounds from the newer games
@tobiis-a-good-boy4960
@tobiis-a-good-boy4960 3 ай бұрын
One thing I haven't seen much mention of that I miss very much, the Chapter End curtain call doesn't have the same "oomph" as the original does with the letters smashing onto the screen.
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
I mentioned it! I miss the old so much for this.
@tobiis-a-good-boy4960
@tobiis-a-good-boy4960 3 ай бұрын
@@JoProGaming Oh my bad, I must've missed that part lol
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 3 ай бұрын
My 3 biggest complaints are 1. The Text Speeds 2. Audience doesn’t boo or cheer you on in battles 3. Butchering certain music tracks and removing specific character sfx like Yoshi’s sprinting and flutter jump
@FlickyShot
@FlickyShot 3 ай бұрын
The audience was the best! I can't believe they messed that up as well...
@sperryyoungerjr.3985
@sperryyoungerjr.3985 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of the sfx. I prefer the sound effect of Vivian pulling Mario into the shadows in the original rather than the new lame sound in the remake.
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 3 ай бұрын
I hate Yoshi's sound effects in the original, it gets on my nerves especially when you use him for fast travel.
@ARod3
@ARod3 3 ай бұрын
Yeah #2
@SuperSimmerGal
@SuperSimmerGal 3 ай бұрын
​@@jeremyknight9980 I'm guessing that's why the removed it. It never annoyed me personally, but I can totally see how it might grate on some people's nerves.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I really don't like how they changed "END OF CHAPTER" to "CLEAR!" Like it doesn't even make sense. You start off every chapter with it listing the chapter number and name and when you complete it, it's just a simple "CLEAR" like you just played through a small level. I don't know why they did that it made the end of the chapter seem less dramatic.
@princessyoshi1337
@princessyoshi1337 3 ай бұрын
I disliked that too, I did the chuggaaconroy thing whenever I played the original😆
@Lt31337Luca
@Lt31337Luca Ай бұрын
The sfx that plays during it is pretty wimpy, too. The original smashes each letter into the white bg while the remake just sticks each letter out of the bottom of the curtain.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
They did that cause literally TWO chapters have stuff that happens after you get the Crystal star. It's Chapter 4's entire gimmick and Chapter 5, you have a boss fight after defeating Cortez. So the Chapter isn't over yet. Personally I'm seeing this complaint way too much from people who aren't paying attention to the story of their favorite game and realizing there's a VALID reason for this change.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 23 күн бұрын
@@MarioMastar Or you're just being ignorant. Did you miss the part of the entire game being told as a story by Mario to Luigi?
@froakie1404
@froakie1404 3 ай бұрын
imo I have jus a lot of thoughts abt this topic so imma just list them Pros 1. New Animations 2. New soundtrack is fire (Ive grown to like it a lot) 3. Pipe Room is a godsend for troubles/cooking 4. 2 new super bosses are really great and play with the combat in unique ways that it actually makes me kinda hopeful that this team can make solid fights in this old combat system 5. Game is SO pretty, I love it, combining the old style with the new style was a perfect choice imo 6. New/Updated cutscenes are perfect I love em 7. So many cool little details were made that enhanced scenes (the final boss cutscenes are so perfect) Cons 1. Text Speed being that slow is REALLY stinky for replays, alongside battle ui bring more of a slog, didn’t bother me on first play at all but after going back to the original it is VERY noticeable, it doesn’t kill the game for me but it singlehandingly makes me prefer the original ngl 2. 30fps, not as bad as I thought but def makes the game feel more choppy than before Otherwise I love this remake a TON, hopefully this is a sign of things to come and gets nintendo to wake up lmaooo
@the-NightStar
@the-NightStar 3 ай бұрын
Frame rate has never mattered and it never will.
@lanzhu.zhong_
@lanzhu.zhong_ 3 ай бұрын
​@@the-NightStarit does tho, some games REQUIRE to be on 60fps to work, framerate does matter
@MusuemBucket
@MusuemBucket 3 ай бұрын
@@lanzhu.zhong_They changed the timings lmao, most turn based rpgs ran at 30
@Monkey1990100
@Monkey1990100 3 ай бұрын
whats the big deal about it running at only 30 fps anyway. doesn't bother me at all. never will understand why so many people complained about this when it was first announced that this game would be running at 30 fps?
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
@@the-NightStar It literally does in this case, the timing for many attacks is half of what it was before since it only reads your input every frame. It doesn't matter from a pure visual perspective, but when they program the inputs and have visual cues, it can make a difference. I and many others can feel the super guard timings are notably tighter.
@AiToYumeNoKaze
@AiToYumeNoKaze 3 ай бұрын
5:27 A personal complaint I have about the audience thing as well is that pulling the focus down to the audience forces your attention to them and interrupts gameplay, forcing your attention also removes the skill that was involved with always keeping an eye on them yourself. It’s no longer this interesting mechanic that is always hovering over you and YOU need to keep an eye on things and learn to do so in the back of your mind the game literally stops to warn you about it AND give you time to identify, it was more interesting when I actually could miss it and get hit because I wasn’t paying attention, or panic because I didn’t know how long they’d ben holding the item up and in my panic hit someone throwing help…. I have NEVER messed this up in the remake or even had to panic. The stage stuff feels like the same issue, it is no longer about staying aware and ready for anything, but something that slows the game down
@Redpoppy80
@Redpoppy80 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they defeated the whole point of audience participation in the first place.
@sonicthehedge
@sonicthehedge Ай бұрын
Really hate it focuses your attention when that happens because they'll never sneak one. Honestly they should of just removed the mechanic all together if they wanted to add that feature
@CountShaman
@CountShaman 2 ай бұрын
"The Remake is too easy" Original TTYD: Haha, infinite Power Rush in Pianta Parlor go brrr
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
XD TTYD was always "too easy" but of course the Remake is EASIER when most people watch Koops's videos on peril strats then literally do that and go "At least it's not DANGER Mario" Like they didn't just get someone else to trade them a level 100 mewtwo and brag about how they can steam roll the game cause it's "a SHINY mewtwo"..... I personally banned Peril and danger strats cause I wanted to make the most of what the game offers. You'd be amazed at how much more interesting it is when you try to max out FULL HP Mario's attack power and see what you can do. I was even legitimately using Ms Mowz's def piercing slap and had to use Bobombast a few times. SO much more fun than just "Lol Danger Goombella/Koops/Yoshi go brrr." like these so called "Veterans" do.... (actually I never used Multibonk more than like twice the whole game, and never equipped Power bounce, but mostly cause I just don't like those badges... not because of a restriction, just personal preference).
@CountShaman
@CountShaman 23 күн бұрын
@@MarioMastar True. Granted, even without danger strats, you are never really short of options to demolish the game. Power Lift alone flattens the difficulty like pancakes, especially when used for Yoshi Kid and Power Bounce, and Sweet Treat can keep you alive pretty much forever. I honestly think Paper Mario could use more bosses that really challenges your resourcefulness and doesn't just get flattened by one strategy every time. Heck, the first time I played TTYD, which is a casual run, the only thing that actually posed a threat to me in the main story was the X-Yux. Prince Mush's fight is an amazing addition that gives us the exact type of challenge the game needs, but it could've been more of a commodity. Same case with Culex 3D, where the Mario RPG remake could've taken more advantage of the fact that you can swap allies on the go like that boss did.
@PatrickGilland
@PatrickGilland 3 ай бұрын
My complaint about the Nostalgic Tunes badge is that it shouldn't have been a badge, but rather an option in the menu, like what was done in Mario RPG and Xenoblade. That means you can't listen to the rest of the old prologue's music up until visiting the thousand year door for the first time when you can even buy the badge.
@Rediscool9
@Rediscool9 3 ай бұрын
I agree and disagree. I agree with the fact that it sucks we can’t listen to the OG prologue music at the beginning due to it being before you can even buy the Nostalgic Tunes badge, but I disagree with tyou saying it shouldn’t have been a badge because I think it’s a far more charming addition to make the OG music swap be a new badge with the GameCube design as opposed to just a generic menu option swap.
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 3 ай бұрын
they just wanted you to experience the new ost for at least one chapter you can get it after chapter 1 for 1 coin. Really isn't that much of a issue.
@MC-bo6ql
@MC-bo6ql 3 ай бұрын
​@@nascour5991 *during Chapter 1.
@EricIsfeld-ho6mr
@EricIsfeld-ho6mr 3 ай бұрын
Boohoo
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 3 ай бұрын
@@nascour5991 Yeah, this is a silly complaint.
@Hutch2Much
@Hutch2Much 3 ай бұрын
i think the ability to restart the scene after a defeat was put into place _because_ of the pit of 100 trials-specifically, the whacka fight. yeah, i definitely wasn’t about to go through 50 annoying battles all over again just for a chance at that boss
@tylermercado1445
@tylermercado1445 3 ай бұрын
Especially since 2 fights between levels 81-99 have 2 Amazy Dayzees in the fight. If you don’t kill or damage them enough early on at a low or medium level, you’re as good as dead.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
and random stop watch enemies that will just kill you for free if you don't kill them. As I said elsewhere, I HATE when people complain about stuff like this that's PURELY meant to save you time. If you literally can't beat the fight, restarting in the same room won't make a difference. TTYD is generally a fairly easy game though, so why punish the player with hours of having to redo most of the pit for dying while all the "Top players" run around doing Peril strats while complaining about how cheesy "Danger Mario" is?
@19_LuiSal_95
@19_LuiSal_95 3 ай бұрын
The bridge switch at Riverside Station always bothered me. If the Switch is a one-time use, how did Beldam even raise the drawbridge? Also, the credit scene is my favorite change. I always hated the credits in the original. Paper Mario 64 and The Origami King had my favorite credits scene and to see the remake’s credits be similar to theirs made me so happy.
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Riverside Station switch bothers me so much for some reason. Makes noooo sense.
@Obstagoon862
@Obstagoon862 3 ай бұрын
There is one thing I don't like about this remake: Everyone has back sprites now... _EXCEPT_ for Toadsworth and Doopliss. And there's one thing I hate with every bone in my body: You can't play Luigi's adventure in the Waffle Kingdom.
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 3 ай бұрын
nintendo hates luigi unless it's sidegames or luigi's mansion it's never gonna happen buddy
@GeoshiTheRed
@GeoshiTheRed 3 ай бұрын
You know what's weird? In the reflections of Mario riding the Yoshi kid they made a back pose of the two but for some reason it is never used in the actual game but the reflection.
@A_Ali173
@A_Ali173 3 ай бұрын
@@nascour5991Nintendo hates Toadsworth so much more than Luigi
@Magic_Ice
@Magic_Ice 3 ай бұрын
@@A_Ali173they don’t hate him, he just died after Dream Team that’s all
@tetermc
@tetermc 3 ай бұрын
Luigi's adventure is better as a story in game.
@bencarrington3743
@bencarrington3743 3 ай бұрын
In the subject of Riverside Station, I didn't like the fact that they left it as it was in the original Gamecube version. The awkward Goomba room was originally going to be a Shadow Sirens battle.
@MariobBro1
@MariobBro1 3 ай бұрын
21:32-21:36 “You’re in a better place, you adorable little- *Insert test noises*” I died of laughter lmao 🤣
@baconlabs
@baconlabs 3 ай бұрын
Slow text speed, yes; slow UI interactions, yes; there's one more element of slowness that really gets my goat, and that's movement. I do not understand why Mario has to slow to a halt in midair if he falls too far, or why the little Yoshi has to accelerate from zero. Neither of these feel consistent with the spirit of Mario's platforming roots. The Yoshi thing is especially problematic and I have to wonder how it made it through testing; so many things were made easier about this game, but going over gaps has never been harder! I had to redo the ones near the Twilight Town pipe and the Keelhaul Key ? Block so many times.
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Me too! And Yoshi goes down ledges and stairs soooo slowly!
@Jay7707
@Jay7707 3 ай бұрын
Way to go you overexaggerate a little thing.
@kozu44
@kozu44 3 ай бұрын
@@Jay7707 uhh have you tried 100%'ing both games? Having your speed hindered so nonsensically will always feel like shit, especially on your second or third time playing it gets so fucking tedious to hop on and off yoshi 3 times in the same room, or enter a long, unskippable cutscene to get yapped to by your fourth curse demon for several minutes giving you a forcefully interactive lesson on how to press a single button then give you the option to start the cutscene over again with the default answer being 'do it,' all while acting like he's getting the best of you (with this unintentionally being accurate just because of how painfully slow the cutscenes are)
@Jay7707
@Jay7707 3 ай бұрын
@@kozu44 You can skip cut scenes in the remake and not only that there are pipes that cut down on backtracking. So in the end of the day, it is faster than the original.
@Jay7707
@Jay7707 3 ай бұрын
@@kozu44 Not only that it’s not even that slow to get off and on Yoshi.
@jumpmadmadness1222
@jumpmadmadness1222 3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe they got rid of Mario’s cursing and guns. Mario’s iconic line in the game where he said *”Where’s that Damn 4th Star crystal”* is gone.
@PaperBanjo64
@PaperBanjo64 3 ай бұрын
They also removed the scene where Mario jumps in the shower with Peach and they have some naughty fun.
@chiloto4630
@chiloto4630 2 ай бұрын
They also removed when Bowser brutally mauled Kammy after she came back of Glitzville with balloons.
@vtubermissingno
@vtubermissingno 3 ай бұрын
That shirt is INCREDIBLE. where can i get a paper mario shirt like that?
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
It is no longer sold I think! But red bubble back in the day.
@yellowwinner1
@yellowwinner1 3 ай бұрын
​@@JoProGamingI'm jealous
@zackwoods5077
@zackwoods5077 3 ай бұрын
The text speed is definitely the biggest issue with the remake compared to the original. It also wouldve been nice to have a Hard Mode that boosts enemy stats, significantly nerfs the chances of applying debuffs to enemies, and you start at your last save block on a game over.
@SuperSimmerGal
@SuperSimmerGal 3 ай бұрын
You still can start at your last save block after a game over. The option of redoing battles is just that, an option.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
WEll the issue is in the original you could skip jingles like collecting a star piece, but in the remake, you have to watch the WHOLE jingle before you can move again. Also instead of restoring HP, FP and SP at the same time, it now does it one at a time for even God doesn't know what reason....
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 3 ай бұрын
You say you don't care about the frame rate change much, but it honestly probably contributes heavily to your issues with the menuing from your first issue, so it may be affecting your enjoyment more than you realized. I always prefer menus that run at 60 fps+. Just that much more snappy
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
actually the menu issues aren't caused by framerate, but by delays in when the game chooses to receive input. Rendering graphics 30 times a second vs 60 times won't slow a game down for more than 1/60th of a second at most. The issue with the menus is that the developers force you to wait for cues to pass before you can advance the state that you were able to skip in the original. like you have to wait for the entire star Piece jingle to finish playing where as before you could skip it, same for the emails and ESPECAILLY when you heal HP and FP. Before, they would all restore at the same time, but now, for reasons beyond knowledge, they all restore ONE at a time. turning a 3 second animation to a 10 second one. It seriously adds up over the course of the game, to the point I'd sometimes deliberately avoid getting triple shines just to not waste the time (I'm near full health anyway).
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 22 күн бұрын
@@MarioMastar oh, that makes sense. Thanks for that. I just remember playing some games before where the menuing didn't feel good as the frame rate dropped on Switch, then I played them on PC or Xbox X and it felt better. Maybe it was just some cue running slow cause of the frame rate drop in that situation. I wonder. Either way, I feel like I learned something really useful to know. So thank you so much 😁
@dr_meth
@dr_meth 3 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I actually think the original credits scene is much better: Luigi leads the parade (as a reference to Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario 64 parades), and the music makes you feel satisfied but also sad that your journey ended. Overall, it has sort of a "farewell" vibe since your adventure takes place in Rogueport and not in the Mushroom Kingdom. Anyways, great video man :) I hope Paper Mario 64 gets a remake as well.
@alexhirsch5738
@alexhirsch5738 3 ай бұрын
I think for me which is better depends on what you want. I think the remake is undeniably a better casual experience, especially for first time players. But I think the hard-core fans, the modded community and challenge runners are still going to prefer the GameCube version for its faster text speed, ease of modding, and tenure. I'd reccomend the remake to anyone whether they've played the original or not, but the GameCube original isn't going to be beat for purists. Unless they patch the game with text options, then maybe there's a chance.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
Mostly elitism... i swear if I watch one more TTYD remake video spend the first 5 minutes going "THis beautiful game is the BEST game ever without any flaws, lets start our journey on this game that marked history!" as if these aren't the same people who started a HOLY war because Sticker Star came out.... These aren't Paper Mario fans... There's nothing wrong with the 6 games, yet these guys act like you castrated thier mother if you mention any game after TTYD, even if you're enjoying it. They need to seriously knock it off with that foolishness.
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing the remake on a new much larger tv and I thought it was just input delay on the tv I’m glad to know it’s not just me…
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 3 ай бұрын
10:07 I like that they made the game more accessible, starting where I left off so I don't have to go through a tedious area, sit through cutscenes, solve a puzzle again, do annoying tasks or start from the pit all over is way better imo. I don't get a thrill from challenge or going through something again unless it's fun, I find it disheartening to straight up annoying.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
This... most people don't have time to repeat hours of gameplay because they made a mistake. and I'll never understand the freeloaders who have the time to do all that and complain. Look at how people react to EXP Share mechanics in Gen 6 Pokemon and on. acting like "I'd RATHER do switch training (which is only slower), or when people got mad that IVs could be maxed out by using bottle caps instead of having to breed eggs and gamble for it then do some math to check the stats to see what the IVs likely were... If people got that kind of time to waste.... I seriously question who's paying their bills.
@Redpoppy80
@Redpoppy80 3 ай бұрын
I have to admit the only thing that has perturbed me about the remake has been the slow text. If the idea is that a new player needs to read it so it can't go too fast than why can't we speed past text that was shown already!? I am an above average speed reader myself so having to wait for the text was beyond annoying for me.
@SyrisDuhVyris
@SyrisDuhVyris 3 ай бұрын
Same bro, i played the original paper mario months prior to this it’s lightyears faster. It doesn’t really kill the “pace” i guess, so it doesn’t bother me. Although glitz pit was a tad slow.
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 3 ай бұрын
Repeat Playthroughs are not gonna be fun and TTYD remake is going to suffer that common RPG problem of having a slow start just from not being able to speed up the dialogue.
@cultofjenova5653
@cultofjenova5653 3 ай бұрын
Two biggest issues I had were the SFX (especially in battle) were so much flatter, and the general gameplay flow feels less kinetic and fluid than the original, after beating the final boss in the remake I popped in my GC copy and did the same fight and i was thinking to myself, "Oh yeah, this feels so much more snappy"
@sirskylight7901
@sirskylight7901 3 ай бұрын
This may sound sort of nitpicky, but there were certain animations in the game that felt sort of off. Don't get me wrong, the new animations are great. It's how the remake's version of some of the old animations looked. Mainly, the animation for the superguard. It looks a lot slower than the original. The original had Mario and co. spin fast multiple times then gradually slow down, but the remake's superguard is just a single slow spin. I know this is a small detail, but to me, it felt like the superguard lost some of it's original charm because of it.
@damonrichardson1999
@damonrichardson1999 3 ай бұрын
This really makes me admire how beloved the original is. I have yet to play either one until I save up and I'm actually torn between them. They both have really strong points. The original holds up so well that it can be compared to the remake.
@sapphire_rose08
@sapphire_rose08 3 ай бұрын
My opionion is probably influenced by how I play the game, but I would bet the higher amount of save blocks is because the game is technically portable now, with the switches handheld mode, so people will want to save more frequently
@trumpeterjen
@trumpeterjen 2 ай бұрын
The censorship of the Goombas hitting on Goombella wouldn't bother me on its own, but then they kept Flurrie's intro completely intact. The Goombas creeping on Goombella was used in the original specifically to show they were the bad guys, but a "good guy" protagonist is still allowed to literally assault Mario on-screen? That sends a horrible message. Why in the world is that still allowed?
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
Oddly yeah, the Goomba trio flirting wtih Goombella is the ONLY change they made when it came to the characters flirting... they literally kept every other instance of it intact, even the Goomba who's trouble is to literally date Goombella. (though in fairness, every other partner absolutely wants him destroyed for insulting them). Yeah it was odd to change that. Though I AM glad they softened the "addicted mother" scenario with having her instead rant about her husband being a terrible writer and the kid agreeing with her. The original hit way too close to home for a lot of people and wasn't appropriate as humor.
@danielcurren2119
@danielcurren2119 3 ай бұрын
Your reaction to the TEC’s sound effect loss is the same as my loss to the pedestal seal sound effect… I loved how crisp it sounded: 20:55. Though I LOVED the build up and anticipation of the thousand year door music, every chapter I had to go back just to see what instrument they’ve added
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Yeah the crystal star cutscenes are far inferior now due to the SFX changes.
@danielcurren2119
@danielcurren2119 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@JoProGaminga lot of those SFXs were very iconic. Another one I really loved was my favorite part of the palace of shadows: the tower of riddles. The mysterious, indescribable shadowy sounds from the chests/ pillars were gone. It added so much to the tower. The sound oozes mystique and adds to the connection between the crystal stars’ creation and the shadow queen
@metaskully382
@metaskully382 3 ай бұрын
As someone who never played the original. It is aggravating how you can’t speed up the dialogue unless you are repeating a cutscene.
@prismaticseal2553
@prismaticseal2553 3 ай бұрын
Mashing B used to be the option to speed through dialogue even before repeating dialogue, now its all kinda slow
@livingdead4855
@livingdead4855 3 ай бұрын
I always expect a remake of a beloved classic to have super nitpicky negatives that people act like ruins the game completely ignoring how the positives outweigh the negatives by a landslide
@hoesayohlay
@hoesayohlay 3 ай бұрын
it’s so annoying tbh
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
The slow text is a valid reason to be upset though... it really slows the game down cause it really adds up over time. Every time you get a max heal, you have to watch the HP, FP and STar power all fill individually where before it happened at the same time. and getting a starpiece used to let you mash through the jingle, but now you have to wait for the jingle to end before you get control back. It really adds up... The rest of the complaints though... yeah others are schooling the guy on complaining about things that really are just foggy nostalgia glasses. The Riverside station thing was a joke that went over his head, and the game being too easy cause you don't lose hours of progress when you die is just elitist talk. No one PREFERS to waste hours because the enemy had a stopwatch, nor do they want to hear "git gud" from someone who just watches peril strats and steamrolls through the game anyway.
@Gold_Yoshi
@Gold_Yoshi 3 ай бұрын
I've heard that a lot of the text changes are actually made to be more accurate to the original Japanese script. Though I am not sure if they changed anything *again* when adjusting for the modern version.
@brianking9424
@brianking9424 2 ай бұрын
It was crickets that hook tail didn’t like but this one it’s frogs? Unless I’m from a new timeline
@Gold_Yoshi
@Gold_Yoshi 2 ай бұрын
@@brianking9424 I believe the japanese version it was frogs, but it was a specific type of frog that people in other places don’t usually have and thus wouldn’t recognize as a “frog” so they changed it to “crickets” in the original english release. Here they changed it to a more recognizable frog sound and then they changed the text to match it.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
Well, mostly just the Frog thing due to a misunderstanding. ALL versions were changed to handle Vivian being transgender more sensitively. A thing that people miss is Japan didn't make Vivian transgender in the original to support LGBTQ+ before it's time. they did so to make FUN of the character, hence why Beldam insults her by calling her a "MAN". In the remake, Beldom no longer insults her gender choice instead choosing to drop the topic and complain that they need a more fitting title for the trio. Birdo had the same sh8t happen to her for 30 years and to this day people STILL insult her for allegedly being trans because of a JOKE that was meant to mock her. There was no respect shown back then, (heck being GAY in Japan was considered very taboo and oftne made fun of as well, it was NOT acceptable back then when they made the game no matter how much revisionists want to believe it). Though that said, I think the Spanish version did legitimately consider having her trans, but only because they translated it directly and not because of anything political. In modern time, all of them handle it respectfully. Spanish didn't have to change the dialogue much as it already was inoffensive though.
@Gold_Yoshi
@Gold_Yoshi 23 күн бұрын
@@MarioMastar I think Nintendo handled it pretty well. Didn’t change the original too much by removing the topic entirely (in the new version), but replaced the harsher part a bit to allow for a wider audience… But they did keep the thing where people hang themselves so idk
@skumsprjt9145
@skumsprjt9145 3 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint about this remake is when you Fahr Outpost and talk to the bob-ombs, the bob-omb npcs don't talk in the stereotypical russian-english way anymore, why did Nintendo remove that?
@ArynBendah
@ArynBendah 2 ай бұрын
The war
@skumsprjt9145
@skumsprjt9145 2 ай бұрын
@@ArynBendah yep...
@TheBeserkerLord
@TheBeserkerLord 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know, I think it’s very telling that most of your positives are huge gameplay/narrative improvements while most of your negatives are minor nitpicks, some of which I honestly didn’t even notice (like the text speed) or just felt were also improvements. (I can go without Yoshi’s obnoxious footsteps and having to redo the entire Pit of 100 Trials every time, personally.) But I get being a purist about these things. I’m the same way with the Banjo-Kazooie games and their Xbox versions.
@steam-powereddolphin5449
@steam-powereddolphin5449 3 ай бұрын
For the text, I say that in addition to re-adding the Dialogue Log, the Settings menu should have the following options added: -Music Volume: [0---------100] -Voice Volume: [0---------100] -SFX Volume: [0---------100] -Nostalgic Tunes: [Off|On] -Text Speed: [Slow|Normal|Fast] -Menu Sensitivity: [Slow|Normal|Fast] -Maintain Auto-Advance: [Off|On] -Maintain Fast-Forward: [Off|On] -Combat Difficulty: [|Normal|Double Trouble|Peril Panic|Impossible] Auto-advance would allow text bubbles to automatically advance within a short time after the current text finishes generating. Fast-forward would significantly increase the speed of text generation, advancement, and character animations during dialogue while enabled (think like modern Persona titles). The Nostalgic Tunes option would eliminate the need for a badge to enable the classic OST where applicable. The Combat Difficulty mode names are examples based on fan challengs from the Gamecube version: -Double Trouble: Double enemy attack. Double enemy HP. Quadruple Pain. (Unlocked by beating the game once) -Peril Panic: 1 HP and a dream. (Unlocked by beating the game once) -Impossible: *7* Crystal Stars. *0* advantage. *3* percent chance of victory is a generous estimate... (Unlocked by 100% completing the game once; must be chosen at start and is locked for whole playthrough) As for the particulars on Impossible: -Mario's level is set to 0 and enemies never give Star Points. --Max BP is set to 0 instead of 3 ---Attack FX G is moved to Boggly Woods. -Normal battles only drop 1 coin each, and Clear Bonuses only give 20% as much money. Shine Sprites on the field are invisible and uncollidable, effectively removing them. Inventory space set to 0. --The Strange Sack instead holds a unique secret; whatever is inside permanently improves Superguards (timing starts slightly sooner for every attack, and attacks that couldn't be countered this way before are now Superguardable). -Star Power is permanently set to 0. -Heart blocks are all invisible and uncollidable. --The only way to recover HP and FP is to sleep. -The in-battle Swap Partner command is disabled. -Merlee's charms all cost 1,000x as many coins. -Guard timing is universally set to 0 frames. (Superguards are unchanged, outside of the altered Strange Sack) -Game Over automatically kicks you to the title screen. Impossible progression concessions: -After defeating Gus at any point prior, talking to Ishnail in the Chapter 2-3 intermission allows him to tell Mario a secret code directly. Talking to Peeka in Westside Goods after this will directly trigger her questions without buying anything from the shop. -Both Iron Clefts now have only 4 HP each, but their battle dialogue occurs as normal. -As a bonus, all Journal data (including the Tattle log) is fully unlocked at the start.
@Shadowholocaust
@Shadowholocaust 3 ай бұрын
A lot of the extra inclusions (animations, sprites, extndd cuscenes) are so natural I wonder if they started as cut content from the original.
@MoonlitChris
@MoonlitChris 3 ай бұрын
As a long time TTYD fan and it being one of my very first video games; you absolutely NAILED everything that was incredible about the remake, down to the finest details that only a long time player would know appreciate and even complain about! This is the best video I've seen about the remake by far and I hope you continue to make more down the road, subscribed! PS: I always considered the Blue Switch in Riverside as a gag joke where the actual lever is just Blue Switch hidden behind a real one, absolute genius comedy imo
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Lots more Paper Mario videos I've done recently and many more to come. :)
@jamiecal11
@jamiecal11 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's not a great remake. It didn't need to be because tbe game holds up so well (generally) but they could've improved way way more. Probably a hot take too but a lot of the music is meh. I don't think real instruments automatically means 'better', they really butchered the rogueport and glitzville ones.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 23 күн бұрын
I like most of the remakes but I agree 100% Glitzville was ruined. Rogueport... it's 50/50. The original felt more grounded for the main central town while the remake felt overly remixed with the grandios instruments BUT... the remake still sounds good. And similarly I don't think the Excess express needed the songs extended, the night theme was perfectly fine with the loop they had, BUT others like the Puni March having an Arabian motif and Twilight Town having a kind of Kingdom Hearts motif definitely added. Plus the Chapter 6 Battle theme was a fantastic surprise!
@Joker3180Z
@Joker3180Z 3 ай бұрын
26:06 I agree with the not taking on more than one quest, Special bubbles and End Of Chapter text things, but not with the Crustal stars looking worse
@maxtubb8560
@maxtubb8560 3 ай бұрын
So I guess remakes whole selling point now are just small improvements over the original and apparently to some people that is worth the $60 just to play a remake of a game that’s 20 years old game.
@hyliastone286
@hyliastone286 3 ай бұрын
This was such an insanely good review. You've earned a new subscriber for sure
@Distraught0
@Distraught0 2 ай бұрын
"T-E-C" and "Moosh" hurt my soul
@wereElive1
@wereElive1 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the remake will get an update
@yellowwinner1
@yellowwinner1 3 ай бұрын
I REALLY hope it does, especially if it gives us 60 FPS on the supposed Switch 2, but I seriously doubt it knowing Nintendo. This feels like a one and done kind of game for them.
@FlickyShot
@FlickyShot 3 ай бұрын
I hope they update it and bring back the iconic "END OF CHAPTER!" instead of the generic "cleared". It probably won't happen tho... what a shame
@the-NightStar
@the-NightStar 3 ай бұрын
No. No it will not. Because none of the changes were done by accident. Every single one was intentional and intended.
@Whelt
@Whelt 3 ай бұрын
​@@the-NightStarSurely laggy menus that aren't interactable for a second or so after they pop up is not intentional. That's my only real issue with the remake, I misclick things a lot because I expected the cursor to move and it didn't.
@zoewheeler3927
@zoewheeler3927 3 ай бұрын
​@@yellowwinner1Just like many others.
@ryo442266
@ryo442266 3 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure if this is actually one of the improvements, but I feel like managing lots of Punies in Stage 2 became much easier in Switch. It was always troublesome in the original one cause Punies easily get behind and lost.
@MDMcNugget
@MDMcNugget 3 ай бұрын
Nah I'll fully admit to being a clown who needs to reverse text sometimes, even with it moving slowly. I'll "read" it, but ADHD makes it tough to actually take in the text sometimes. So I'll try to scroll back like in the original, and now I can't.
@randln1_0
@randln1_0 3 ай бұрын
19:57 this is such a minor nitpick for me but i especially miss the old sound effects for gaining hp and fp. they just felt a little bit more charming
@xXHippoZillaXx
@xXHippoZillaXx 3 ай бұрын
somehow i didnt notice the TEC speech bubble thing but it's so true damn. RIP
@Allen1350
@Allen1350 3 ай бұрын
For that first one, I'm waiting for smash% to become a speedrun category for this game. 😂
@Celestia282
@Celestia282 Ай бұрын
"Let's compare the good and bad! The good: multiple genuine improvements in the areas that matter most. The bad: minor nitpicks. Hmm, I wonder which is better?"
@Joker3180Z
@Joker3180Z 3 ай бұрын
11:43 Say what you will about that but You can't deny that ain't QoL imagine getting to Bonetail and having to completely restart That alone made it impossible to beat that part of the game growing up, I finally beat it and even with the whole restart scene thing it was still very very satisfying when I did it
@HaydenKinsmanMusic
@HaydenKinsmanMusic 3 ай бұрын
I think my least favourite "Why the heck??" moment in this remake is the deceleration Yoshi experiences across every. single. staircase. and. ledge. I suppose it's time for tube mode's redemption, with its sharper turning angles! But ooohh boy this remake was a treat. That condensed and expanded fast travel system was incredible.
@Muetzi
@Muetzi 3 ай бұрын
honestly… i didn’t even notice that the game only ran at 30fps until you mentioned.
@the-NightStar
@the-NightStar 3 ай бұрын
I guarantee no one else would, either. Frame rate has never mattered and it never will.
@ovite1240
@ovite1240 3 ай бұрын
@@the-NightStar that's a straightr up lie, people would realize the game was 30 fps extremely quickly
@AnimalPuff
@AnimalPuff 3 ай бұрын
​@@ovite1240 yeah and in fact, it was a big topic when certain videos about the game came out. People definitely notice the difference between 30 and 60, I wish the people who can't tell for whatever reason would get it in their heads that that's *their* issue, not everyone else's
@speedyyoshi8
@speedyyoshi8 3 ай бұрын
I noticed immediately. The night it came out I was tipsy and thought I was trippin with how slow the fps and text speed was so I went to sleep. Then realized the next day I wasn’t trippin. Idk playing more current games then going to play the remake in 30fps still bothers me. The game is visually amazing tho. I would replay the original tho before the remake.
@drmagical4225
@drmagical4225 3 ай бұрын
Which I don't fully understood on why people are complaining I mean yeah there's a argument to be made that the remake in 2024 is only 30fps compering to the original in 2004, only valid reasons I could see for the complaint is at most 1 compering the remake with the original, 2 if someone played so much of the original when going to the remake it feels a bit off, 3 if the 30fp makes something like the combat or other part of the game worse. (for I don't know for never played the original or remake at time of this comment.)
@fawfulthegreat64
@fawfulthegreat64 3 ай бұрын
I think the surreal joy of them uncensoring Vivian and letting her be explicitly trans in the remake singlehandedly outshines any disappointment I may have had with other dialogue changes. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned.
@MasterFhyl
@MasterFhyl 3 ай бұрын
Because Vivian wasn't trans in the original, no matter how much you lie and say she was.
@empressbulby3761
@empressbulby3761 3 ай бұрын
Beldam speech bubble
@helmenhjelmen1955
@helmenhjelmen1955 2 ай бұрын
during the bonetail match was i never given a negative buff. i was constantly given the ghost blanket thingy, so bonetail couldnt hit flurrie like at all. and i used flurre to make mario unhitable with her ability.
@ProfesorPiper
@ProfesorPiper 3 ай бұрын
I first heard Flavio sing while playing the game on my lunch break was neat
@FreedomKid7
@FreedomKid7 2 ай бұрын
IMO the new room where you can go to all the worlds easily is such a massive improvement and while there's some slight negatives that room makes the game better, nostalgia factor aside
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 3 ай бұрын
Something else I really liked is the new scenes with all the partners together in addition to the Crystal Star door you mentioned. A similar thing happens in Super, but the partners are actual characters in TTYD so it lands much better
@Invariel
@Invariel 3 ай бұрын
One bit of detail I absolutely loved is how fake Crump's fake Puni pedestal is. Seriously, go back to it and use the Switch's zoom functionality to see how crudely drawn everything is.
@CakeKingYT
@CakeKingYT 3 ай бұрын
*LUNKHEAD!* Nah this vid is great. I never played the original and so far, this remake is great!
@nickk3077
@nickk3077 3 ай бұрын
You don't truly appreciate the distinct nature of the original soundtrack until you play both versions of the game. The original game's soundtrack wasn't afraid to be super weird and unlike any other soundtrack other there, making it super memorable! It felt like it used some "sound effects" as a key part of the song. The remade music seems make it sound more generic and makes the themes feel more like they belong in a modern Paper Mario game. It makes sense because the Origami King composer worked on this game I believe. Like for instance, a lot of the music has been made distinctly jazzier and have removed this "sound effect"-like nature to the songs. They even sometimes mix up the background melody and main melody which is crazy because how do you mess that up? The X-Naut Fortress was definitely butchered from this. It my opinion, it's a mixed bag completely, with some remade songs ranging from on par to some of them being even better.
@kennymichaelalanya7134
@kennymichaelalanya7134 3 ай бұрын
The audience changes for me is the real hiccup of the game.
@Cheerybelle
@Cheerybelle 2 ай бұрын
A few of notes for posterity: - The text speed thing seems to have been rectified, as I can speed up dialogue just fine. Perhaps there was an update? - It seems like the dialogue hasn't been censored so much as relocalized and generally more faithful to the original japanese version, as far as I can tell. It's also a fair bit more clear and consistent, and many errors have been fixed since the original, so that's good. Side by side, it *_is_* mostly the same, though-- it hasn't been "defanged", so to speak-- it's still charming, even in re-localized lines. - I'm honestly not sure if the stage hazards really strongly favour one side or the other. I've had streaks of good luck and streaks of bad luck with them. As with all things RNG, it's really difficult to tell if there's really any distinct "pattern" to it. Other than that... - It *is* really unfortunate that the Nostalgic Tunes badge wasn't more thorough. I wonder if it just fell through the cracks as a compromise for time when trying to get the game out the door. Getting it to work seemlessly with the changes to the music scripts probably would've taken quite a bit of time and effort to implement and test, so I guess we got a conciliatory compromise of a music option on that front. - I like a lot of the changes, but there's something that I wish had been changed but wasn't. 👏Why👏the👏hell wasn't Hammer Throw made accessible in, like, late Prologue / early-to-mid Chapter 1, at the point when it would actually be useful? You still can't get Hammer Throw until, like, *_right_* before you get Spike Shield (and long after getting Quake Hammer)! It's such an utterly mystifying design decision! It's like they actively didn't want players using it! Totally bizarre.
@TetraTheThief
@TetraTheThief Ай бұрын
Good: 1. New Animations 2. Updated Cutscenes 3. Quality of Life Changes 4. Amazing New Music 5. New Dialogue SFX 6. New Content 7. Updated Art Style 8. Random Encounter/Events 9. Excess Express at Dusk 10. The Credits Bad: 1. Bad Dialogue/UI speed (I hate the spectator throwing thing being a zoom in instead of a pay attention thing so i agree here) 2. Framerate being 30 FPS 3. Difficulty being too easy 4. Some Bad Music Changes 5. Old SFX Gone 6. Dialogue changes 7. Random [Small] Things
@JoshSJoshingWithYa
@JoshSJoshingWithYa 3 ай бұрын
I assume that the Switch version is best for a casual play through, while for speed-running and challenge runs, the GameCube version is best. For example, my friend wanted to do a challenge run on the Switch where he only plays as Mario and lets his partners get KO’d, but after beating an enemy or running away, he realized that the Switch version would give the partners 1 HP, so he couldn’t do the challenge run unless he let the enemy attack first to KO the partner for EVERY battle. Of course, once he told me this, I equipped Mega Rush P and Quick Change, and let my partners get KO’d before running away from an enemy. That combo was broooooken lol
@mickkelley3776
@mickkelley3776 3 ай бұрын
I really liked the Bow cameo in Poshley Heights as well as the Parakarry cameo in the intro (and now the ending and credits too!), but aside from those two instances, the appearances of the PM64 partners are pretty sparse - in fact the only one I noticed aside from the obvious cameos was the photo you pointed out, and even then you're the reason I even know it's there. I would've added the other party members from PM64 as cameos in the game as well - even letting you talk to Parakarry, who already makes an appearance in the game.
@rumbling9879
@rumbling9879 3 ай бұрын
Who else can’t tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps, like people always go “Oh no it’s only 30!” And a game looks perfectly fine and then compare it to 60 and I just can’t see the difference Maybe it’s just my eyes?? Not the best sight but I can tell the difference when it gets to like 20 of course
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 3 ай бұрын
You need to play more action games that make use of those frames and then you will notice it more.
@rumbling9879
@rumbling9879 3 ай бұрын
@@ActionGamerAaron I don’t even play Nintendo games out of watching them, in fact I usually play stuff that’s like Insanely high speed I Don’t get the difference though
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 3 ай бұрын
@@rumbling9879 Stop acting like it's such a big mystery, I just told you the answer! Play [not watch!] more action games and you will see the difference.
@toodamnicycold
@toodamnicycold 3 ай бұрын
Its the text speed that kills it for me. Other than that this remake is amazing
@trunguss
@trunguss 3 ай бұрын
Speed in general. Battle menus are slower to navigate due to having a pause before you can move the selection cursor every time you select a sub-menu. Also dislike the camera pan on disgruntled/excited audience members. (I didn't watch the video yet.)
@4ncientGu150
@4ncientGu150 2 ай бұрын
I also dont like how the game points out when someone is going to throw something at you anymore. Trying to find the item in a 200+ crowd and decide if you should attack or not is its own game.
@SearchingStranger
@SearchingStranger 3 ай бұрын
Man, videos like these make me glad I didn't have a Gamecube to play the original TTYD even though I'd always wanted to since I can just enjoy the remake as it is without CONSTANTLY drawing comparisons between the original and the remake.
@eliaslaier5273
@eliaslaier5273 3 ай бұрын
27:27 Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy!
@4ncientGu150
@4ncientGu150 2 ай бұрын
I agree, the game saying Cleared! Instead of End of Chapter is a downgrade. Im not to sure why honestly, its not that different. But it is.
@CinnaSwirls
@CinnaSwirls 2 ай бұрын
The reason the physical switch spawns a temporary switch is because comedy.
@Blizzard91
@Blizzard91 3 ай бұрын
What's that Bowser statue in the backround? where did you get it? also one of the sound effects they removed that I miss was the little scream the audience members made when you hit them. That was so funny I miss it.
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah I loved that sound too! Miss it so much. And that's the Lego Bowser!
@NerdyDad1995
@NerdyDad1995 3 ай бұрын
The only thing i wish they would have added Luigis adventure as a playable addition to the game, like how they did Bowsers Fury with Mario 3D World
@nj8833
@nj8833 3 ай бұрын
I have one HUGE gripe that might, admittedly, be a little niche. When you fall off a platform, including stairs, your horizontal momentum abruptly stops, and you fall straight down. This is so, so unsatisfying. It doesn't make any physical sense and feels awful to control. This is particularly annoying, slow, and clunky when riding Yoshi downstairs. I play a lot of 2D and 3D platformers, so the movement might stand out a little more to me, but I imagine this bugs a lot of people. The only reason I can think that they implemented this change is to restrict the player's movement, preventing out of bounds clips and other unintended physical exploits. This is a lazy failsafe that hurts quality and immersion! That said..... I LOVE this remake. A lot. Never would've expected it to be this well done.
@JoProGaming
@JoProGaming 3 ай бұрын
Yeah this drives me nuts. I hate going off an edge while riding Yoshi. His run speed also is so slow at first when starting to move.
@kyledahlquist9423
@kyledahlquist9423 3 ай бұрын
There are a few things I'd change (text backtracking, fps), but there are so many improvements that I would be comfortable playing only the remake from here on out.
@majesticespeon3126
@majesticespeon3126 2 ай бұрын
Rawk Hawk theme was so bad that everyone died the end😂
@FlickyShot
@FlickyShot 3 ай бұрын
26:15 I can' believe they got rid of the Iconic "END OF CHAPTER!" and replaced it with a generic "Cleared". I wasn't the only one that would yell END OF CHAPTER back in the day. That shit went so hard! It was so good. I just don't get why so many devs do so many dumb unnecessary changes for no reason at all. I really hope they update it and bring it back, but they probably won't. I loved this game on the GameCube and have so many memories. I was gonna buy this remake day 1, but decided to wait to see what changes they did. So, I'll probably buy it if it ever goes on sale or I may never get it lol Nice video by the way!
@jamesonshekmeister
@jamesonshekmeister 3 ай бұрын
I honestly didn't know TEC was in the ending credits scene until you told me. Great attention to detail, and a good way to show everyone in the game in person and on stage.
@benox50
@benox50 3 ай бұрын
You can fast forward the battle ending when you get XPs in the OG
@4ncientGu150
@4ncientGu150 2 ай бұрын
Your right aboit that text speed. And I was SO bummed out you couldn't reverse the text. Like it's not standard in games, but I DID like it in the original. I miss it.
@Monkey1990100
@Monkey1990100 3 ай бұрын
ok just came here to say this. only two things i don't like about this remake is the SLOW TEXT and the AUDIENCE NOT CHEERING OR BOOING. other than that this game is fine.
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