Jordan Peterson - Equity Is the Worst of All Tyrannies

Jordan Peterson explains why equity is the worst of all tyrannies.
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[@Liberty-Vault]

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[@brianfunke981]

Equity is based on vengeance.

[@mustang607]

People following these cults tend to be religiously vindictive.

[@illbeyourmonster5752]

And justifying that just existing is enough to deserve whatever they want.

[@mylescasey8914]

Its more based in Envy. Vengeance implies a harm done to another.

[@illbeyourmonster5752]

@@mylescasey8914 They dont love the poor and disenfranchised. They just hate everyone and everything they see as better than them.

[@illbeyourmonster5752]

@@mylescasey8914 They dont love the poor. They just hate everyone doing better than themselves.

[@rogeralsop3479]

Jordan Peterson is a most thoughtful person. Almost never mentioned on the BBC.

[@markwaters4582]

The whole BBC would not have the capacity of understanding and true lived wisdom that JC has. No one with half a brain would would agree with the propaganda of the BBC.

[@daniellebcooper7160]

he doesent fit their narrative.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Equity is pure socialism. It's all about equality of outcome, which is an absurd and impossible endeavor.

[@matthorrocks6517]

Don't let them divide us against each other. We are stronger together then they are attacking us as individuals.

[@jameslindsay24601]

Equality of outcome is impossible in a free society. You cannot force equity. Freedom needs to be generally available, but policy cannot force it.

[@AlexReynard]

I just had the sudden realization that, the history of failure that follows attempts to enforce equality of outcome, that's the metaphor that explains why, in order for there to be free will, God must allow evil.

[@paulthomson2786]

Envy and resentment by those who have been useless $hit for the past 10,000 years, now that their betters have created a comfortable civilization for them.

[@illbeyourmonster5752]

Pretty much that. All I ever see from the l e ft end now is the lazy self self-entitled hissy fits and lying over why they should get everything they want without ever having to work for any of it.

[@techbricks5300]

I'd much rather listen to just Jordan Peterson than someone trying to argue with him.

[@archlich4489]

You're hearing her getting a clue.

[@geoplaten337]

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C. S. Lewis

[@undermuscled7381]

this is what happens when you have prepared questions and are unable to follow a line of argument.

[@nnotny]

Concerning equality of outcome, who is qualified to engineer a society of hundreds of millions of people, with all the complexity that suggests, so that there is no disparity in outcomes in any aspect of life? As Thomas Sowell has asked regarding many issues of this nature, "who gets to decide?" The Soviet Union thought it could completely control their economy from above, and the result was misery and disaster for all but the "deciders".

[@andynovak8347]

Soviets fucked it, yes, but don't pretend like this means that people Couldn't do better :)

[@longWriter]

To quote Prinnies from Disgaea: "You'd need to be God to plan all that, dood!" Human beings can't handle that kind of complexity, but they sure can (and are inclined to!) rake in loot for themselves. Capitalism capitalizes on that inherent greed to create forced altruism and incentives to lift all boats; communism and socialism result in the very oppression the marxist students think they're fighting.

[@nnotny]

@andynovak8347 Well yes, so far that's what it means, and there's nothing to indicate that centralized control could work if it was "just done right", because it's all based on an unrealistic, Rousseuian, Utopian view of reality that is just totally out of touch with reality.

[@brianfunke981]

They could also do worse.

[@nnotny]

@@andynovak8347 Keep on hoping!🤣

[@reinhardbeck1482]

I need to live in a meritocracy because how else would an idiot like me survive in a world run by fools like me?

[@marklanahan7289]

Well you're living it now.

[@bolo2393]

This was a great interview. At first i though she was the typical leftist media type trying to smear him. But she actually does a really good job of gettin JBP to articulate some of his more "controversial" statements and then gives him plenty of time to work it out. Watch the whole interview.

[@blueberrymcphuckerson9821]

Lmao; no this wasn't a great interview. The interviewer clearly had an agenda and wanted to get JP in a "Gotcha!" Moment to ruin him. She never was really listening to what he was saying: she just wanted to smear JP. She sorta did because this is the interview where she misconstrued in bad-faith his use of the anthropological term "Enforced-Monogamy" to mean that JP believed all cultures should force women to he assigned-wives or like for men - not cultures that highly value marriage.

[@fuzz9547]

This lady was insufferable

[@user-yx9se1wl4j]

Could not agree more. Another Human Dellusion.

[@RichardEnglander]

1:40 this is why Socialist Orwell wrote about the perils of Left gone too far, not the Right, the Right is obvious. If that still doesn't make sense then read Harrison Bergeron

[@reinhardbeck1482]

Equity means nothing has any value.

[@blueberrymcphuckerson9821]

This is an old interview - think it was before him trying to overcome his severe benzo dependency and his wife getting a rare type of kidney-cancer. This is the interview where the interviewer clearly was trying to smear him in a "Gotcha!" moment and she sorta did by misconstruing what he meant with the use of his term "Enforced-Monogamy". JP was using an anthropological term used to refer to cultures that highly value marriage and she claimed he meant that women should be forced by violence to be wives for men.

[@jeffcriswell4410]

Dr. Peterson should sell his doodles from these interviews.

[@matthewdonoghue321]

Why do I get the feeling that... like most men... his doodles are all phallic symbols. If I was a shrink that's what I would do... all day long.

[@thefuturist8864]

I’m confused as to why JP redefined equality as outcome-based when the interviewer clearly asked about opportunity-based equality.

[@carlonardone2134]

The problem is the 7% of feminists in this example will never be satisfied even if 93% of women were happy based on expectations of career / family balance. The most puzzling things I’ve heard is women want to be paid ‘as much as a man’ but desire to be with someone who makes more than them.

[@illbeyourmonster5752]

Narcissistic types are never happy unless everyone else is seen to be suffering more than they feel they are themselves.

[@dannysullivan3951]

Hardly

[@williamhall667]

Let's just say that I now only work 4 days a week. Not because I'm old enough to retire. But I'll never be able to afford a house, and if I earn that bit more I'll have it taken from me in the form of taxation. Then that money will be given to someone who can but won't work, who'll then spend it all on drugs.

[@awax43]

Go Jordan!

[@lawrencevandenberg7725]

Yo, professor -- you were right on about God NOT being our Butler.

[@jrgenbentzen9181]

I understand Jesus more now.

[@benwinter2420]

Mars closer before

[@yoe91]

@@benwinter2420why do you keep insisting on your Mars thing on this thread lol

[@benwinter2420]

@@yoe91 Lol ? . . are you infantile . never been here before . . oh Jesus is Mars chat . . well Jesus caper is old Mars worship rebranded political purpose , hate to burst your little bubble

[@jrgenbentzen9181]

Jesus was humility, he accepted the world the way it was

[@Tim.Hammer]

He called people to repent. He turned over tables and humiliated the wicked on multiple occasions. He didn't accept anything - He told the world to turn from their ways and accept HIM, not the other way around. And none of that contradicted His perfect humility, because modern people have no clue what humility even is.

[@longWriter]

@@Tim.Hammer Reminds me of a bit from The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis: "You must therefore conceal from the patient the true end of Humility. Let him think of it not as self-forgetfulness but as a certain kind of opinion (namely, a low opinion) of his own talents and character. Some talents, I gather, he really has. Fix in his mind the idea that humility consists in trying to believe those talents to be less valuable than he believes them to be. No doubt they are in fact less valuable than he believes, but that is not the point. The great thing is to make him value an opinion for some quality other than truth, thus introducing an element of dishonesty and make-believe into the heart of what otherwise threatens to become a virtue. By this method thousands of humans have been brought to think that humility means pretty women trying to believe they are ugly and clever men trying to believe they are fools."

[@Tim.Hammer]

@@longWriter you hit the nail on the head. Exactly right.

[@TopsideCrisis346]

He accepts us how we are, yet He loves us too much to leave us that way. #Repent #LiveGodly

[@longWriter]

@@Tim.Hammer Well, _Lewis_ hit the nail on the head, technically... ...I just realized that I said _that_ in a discussion about humility... ...Ha ha...?

[@robinsonmitchell9995]

Harrison Bergeron.

[@andyjay9346]

She's not listening. More concentrating how and when to interrupt.

[@archlich4489]

Equity is tyranny, sure. I could be a worse tyrant than equity. Believe it.

[@hansweissmann_xviii6754]

Jordan Peterson sounds so sad now….

[@benwinter2420]

He bit his tongue in Moscow nearly died drug rehab . . said before that those with drug habits have no hope & need to make their beds only hope

[@benwinter2420]

Not one to jump on the bandwagon . . but lessons about barbiturate (barbs) learned hard by Peterson . . who lectured about substance abuse before & fell to addiction of the worst drug later , the crying game vid Jordan Peterson made just after release from Moscow (!) rehab clinic . . one of the more anti drug vids out there . . his daughter an WEF global young leader in training , or maybe I'm mistaken

[@benwinter2420]

He literally fried his brain with barbiturates . . there is no springing back from that class of drugs . . perpetual sad sack now shadow of former self

[@DigbyOdel-et3xx]

Equity is akin to every NHL hockey team, all 32 teams finishing the season with the same 82 points in the standings. Making sure the better teams are held back and the poorer teams being artificially boosted. In both cases what fans would want to watch such nonsense?

[@incaseinever]

Is she always trying to steer the conversation to some end that she desires?

[@11kravitzn]

I dunno, I think Nazism is worse

[@andynovak8347]

Truly something to think about :) thamk!

[@longWriter]

Hard telling. The USSR and Communist China had their mass killings, too. Don't get me started on Mao's "Great Leap Forward".

[@TopsideCrisis346]

Well, let's think about this. The Nazis went after those they considered "inferior," for whatever reason, mostly based on eugenics and Darwinian concepts of race - Jews, blacks, etc. By contrast, the Communists went after those they thought were self-supposedly "superior," that is, the bourgeoise - wealthy land owners, farmers, factory owners, bankers. Now, by odd coincidence, the very people who happened to be wealthy in Russia during the Bolshevik revolution also happened to be Jewish. Now, I suppose the real question remains - why do so many people hate the Jews!? Seriously, what have they ever done to you, directly, personally? My interactions with the Hebrew race have been few and far between. But, with one noteworthy exception, such interactions were always pleasant, and in many ways enlightening. These are a people who have an uncanny knack in finding and making the most of opportunities in virtually any given circumstance. To say God's favor rests on His chosen people isn't even the half of it. They just tend to be really good at what they do. And I suppose everyone else is just jealous. And that's precisely the point. Communism, Socialism, Wokism - all of these philosophies around top-down centrally planned economies, overseen by an almighty State that owns everything - all of them are rooted in jealousy, in the supposed "unfairness" of a world where many play and few win. Rather than try to be like the winners, those who advocate for equity would rather attack them, tearing down that which is excellent rather than trying to build oneself up to a standard of excellence. But you don't make yourself better by making everything around you worse. You just wind up making everyone else as miserable as you are. #WakeUpFromWoke

[@longWriter]

@@TopsideCrisis346 You know, what you've said reminds me of something I'd thought of a while ago about woke schooling: If they _really_ wanted minorities to be successful and generally build up wealth, what they'd do is they'd bring in adult minorities who _had become_ successful, let them tell their success-stories, and give the kids the tips and tricks to navigate the world that the wokies theoretically believe is hostile to minorities. I mean, there _are_ minorities who manage to build a business or a career and get rich; helping kids emulate that success is what the wokies _would_ do if they wanted minorities to find success. Instead, they tell minorities not to try to succeed because they'd be prevented from succeeding by a nebulous cloud of racism/privilege/whatever-buzzword-they-have-this-time. And when you think about it, the fewer minorities who try to make it in life, the fewer will end up succeeding. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, one that might well be put in place intentionally. The woke schooling _is_ one of the things holding minorities down and holding them back. Ironic, innit?

[@andynovak8347]

@@longWriter nobody's telling Anyone not to try, we just try to inform people on how You lovelies (mainly old straight white men) will make it feel impossible to do and even when they succeed will do Anything in your power to take them back down :) also there's no such thing as "woke" schooling, the woke thing to do with the school system is to blow it up and build something that actually works towards creating a more informed and critically thinking populace... don't you think?...

[@jamesarmbruster5942]

This guy is a socialist influencer. 😮

[@nnotny]

Wow, do you completely misunderstand everything this badly?

[@yoe91]

No no no. He’s a ballet dancer

[@andynovak8347]

hi! I admit I did not watch the vid, because as soon as I read the premise, I cringe at how ridiculous it is... sounds like daddy Peterson understands equity all wrong... Or (much more likely) merely wants US to understand it all wrong :)

[@longWriter]

To reduce what he said to a blurb, he more or less said that equity was "equality of outcomes". Does that do it injustice?

[@brianfunke981]

The title is click bait and you fed the algorithm by commenting here. So the fact you didn't watch doesn't matter. But hey, at least you could say, "Do better."

[@dehe82]

Sounds like YOU don't understand the difference between equity (equality of outcome) and equality (equality of opportunity). But you are apparently not alone. There are a lot of stupid people out there.

[@andynovak8347]

@@longWriter no, it actually sounds almost right, the problem I have with the premise is... how in the FUCK is that oppressive?! or rather how can You all believe that when all daddy Ps talks do is inspire people to opress others more? :)

[@andynovak8347]

@@brianfunke981 ye, I know, but also I feel like I should label bullshit as such wherever possible :)

[@awax43]

Equity between the sexes can never be achieved until the number of women equals the number of men who have earned a plot in Arlington National Cemetery.

[@umutcanustundag5427]

that colonization and oppression things... it is not only difference between men and women... that is why ...you dont have too much black achievements in history... history is crippled... and you can call everything legacy... socialism is also not you saw in the practicle sense... socialism is star trek... brave new world...

[@andynovak8347]

This guy Gets it :3 thamk!