Jordan Peterson: Hope for men who've lost their way

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This video comes from professor Peterson's: "2017 Maps of Meaning 11: The Flood and the Tower"
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[@ultimatesin3544]

This guy understands what's happening with men better than anyone in the mainstream

[@familyaccount6491]

Ultimate Sin Pretty sure he is the mainstream now

[@vitaliybakal7356]

you should try dianetics test

[@arvid8642]

The mainstream is a joke in a lot of cases.

[@FyouThatsMyName]

Tv is dead. JP is the mainstream.

[@clintonthe4th245]

"Responsibility man, that's where the meaning in life is" Indeed!

[@nightfangs2910]

CLINTON the4th purpose not responsibility, big difference seek your purpose in life find happiness, pursue responsibility find yourself married with children and no options but to work for everyone else but you

[@clintonthe4th245]

I will have to watch it again, but I am pretty sure Peterson said responsibility. I am married with a child and happy to be supporting them. Would I rather be out riding a motorcycle from town to town playing guitar? Nope. I love my trade though, glad to have interaction with people who value it.

[@fwijffels]

I have found so many talks from Jordan Peterson after which I thought: "Yeah this is the best one ever", only to find another one that is at least as good.

[@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt]

Freek Wijffels sit down and pipe down !!!!!

[@laserflexr6321]

Aye I feel the same way. Then I think to myself, is this guy some kind of Svengali or has he diagnosed the root causes of the decay of western society?

[@QuarterMan88]

Heck of a lot of overlap now. Think Even ET may have posted this same talk once before.

[@__-ci7kf]

Yeah no...hes still too fucking moderated....imagine that means that you need to barely be semi realistic like this guy to be offensive....the truth is that we need to understand women in only one way...they need to be brought down..repeal the 19th amendment, the duluth model, no fault divorce, every last single mother welfare program...i garantee then theyd take their place because they know they would die otherwise...

[@shredder213]

I like the guy but while he's no idiot I don't find him incredibly insightful all that often. This one didn't do much of anything for me.

[@GreatSmithanon]

This pretty much details half the reasons I'm suicidal. I can't find work, society blames me for everything, and I hate everything including myself. Thanks, Canada.

[@breadman5048]

So pick a small load that makes sense in your current context and build from there. And don’t give up brother

[@SimpleMinded221]

Same here, also from Canada.

[@sebsebseb1905]

This wonderful man tries to fix an entire generation, God Bless this man and all of his work.

[@Erzkreutz]

As somebody who is in his late 30s - Everthing this man speaks is true and i wish i had this in my early 20s.

[@nenume00]

Erzkreutz i guess the most important thing now is that you acknowlege things even if it's "late"

[@albertodeulofeu5277]

Same. Shit I even would’ve been happy with this in my mid 20s. I’m 33.

[@ovterb3665]

I literally cried after listening to this man's lessons about life and goals as a man, a living legend which cleared up some things in my mind

[@breadman5048]

I’m glad for you brother

[@GodspromisesRyes]

Glad to be one of the small percentage of women listening! You sir are helping me change my life

[@barbaramiller9660]

GodspromisesRyes I have to say I am a fifty year old woman and from the first video I knew two things 1) I knew I loved him 2) I knew he would be a great success when others heard him because I learned from my past people are starved for truth and real men anyway I say we are both woman of wisdom lol

[@stickmanymickmany]

Wait, you don't like guys failing university and playing video games for 80% of their day?

[@GodspromisesRyes]

stickmanymickmany I watch him to help my own life.

[@crazyr605]

Magic vagina

[@alliemw]

Same here

[@horticulturalharry9246]

I've been suicidal several times in my life, had pain syndromes, achieved just for the approval of others, I've read every book, had years of counselling, still not out the woods. Worked in Uk public sector, had it ingrained that, as a male, i was less deserving and less capable. This guy, today, has given me a simple message that really resonates. Please people, listen to this guy, he truely seems to understand.

[@limitless1692]

I am forever grateful to this man.

[@TimothyRyanFisher]

I’m a 45 year old banjo teacher/performer in Chicago. I’ve been obsessed with music since I was a child. My life is definitely on the razors edge of chaos and order leaning towards the chaos side. Most men I meet are lost, hate their job, have no passions. I suffer economically to persist and grow musically. It’s a beautiful nightmare. But, I’m not bored, love what I do and feel privileged to be in my lowly position. I literally play the banjo all day, every day. Some times weddings, corporate events, even with orchestras and sometimes on the street if I need some extra fast money fast.It’s very hard, but rewarding. I love JP’s idea that you shouldn’t search for happiness but meaning. I have a wife, two boys, Bull Terrier puppy, house and huge vegetable garden, and play the shit out of the banjo, practice at least 4 hours every day. I created a job for myself with this vegetable garden inspired by JP, there is a lot of meaning in growing your own food. I’m so tired and sore from digging but it’s a good tired, an Iowa farm kid tired. I practiced so much because I did hard labor on Iowa farms from a very young age and did not want to be a farmer, ironically I feel like one again, and love it, it brings me back to childhood when we produced all of our own food, fixed our cars, tools and equipment, built our own buildings, did the plumbing, electrical, everything was done by Us. Things have changed, people don’t know or even seem to care where their food comes from now.

[@lavatramp]

The main struggle is finding something, a weight worth pulling as he says. I think that's where the problem comes from. Many smart educated young men knew this growing up, it isn't news to them. They had dreams to study x and y and pursue whatever career. But they graduate college to find themselves in a job market that sucks, failing to use their degree. So they find whatever work they can to fill the time while they search for their 'real job' or their 'real load'. But it's never going to come, not in the way they imagined it would when they started college.

[@RogerBarraud]

Unfortunately true for many people. Never rely on 'the system' to make things happen for you. Make your own way, don't trust employers to do right by you.

[@Sebastian_Hahn]

well, for most people, you get to choose between going your own way, or having a roof over your head and food to eat. Some people don't even get the choice. Not everyone can be an entrepreneur or a freelancer. We really need like an extra-vocational union or something.

[@ayy2193]

lavatramp Yeah i've struggled with this on an emotional level, but logically there's weights you know are worth pulling and that's enough to attempt to build momentum to gain the reward. Financial abundance for example in a way that grants more freedom betterment and options. Becoming healthy so you gain more clarity energy effectiveness. Self improvement & Meditation for bettering perspectives, gaining a more positive mindset, inspiration, willpower & space around thoughts & actions, focus, empowering beliefs, etc. Talking about an overall passion for direction though I still don't have this (our education system fails us here so it's down to us to develop one). The actualised life purpose course I'm doing is good so far, you might wanna have a look at it if you're lost here as well.

[@nightfangs2910]

The reality of Western society is we are losing jobs to technology, on all levels I.e. pharmacist, not only blue collar and no collar jobs are disappearing due to technology, so are white collar jobs, in the near future things are going to get very bad looking for a job regardless of education

[@lavatramp]

ron sylvia Agreed. People talk about the consequences of automation as if it's effects are still 20 or so years away. The truth is it's already happening at all levels, middle class jobs are becoming fewer and fewer. That's why young people are embracing nihilism more. Because they can't find worthwhile responsibility. I think most semi intelligent people are capable of hard work and pulling a weight if it provides for them. A house, a car and money to eat and pursue leisure activities. It's no wonder someone with say a law degree who's been stuck in a Starbucks job for a couple years decides 'fuck it'.

[@Freeman3692]

This is dad advice- simple, manly and to the point. That's why Jordan Peterson attracts so much attention from young men today. He's a father figure and he's not concerned with fame or fortune. You may disagree with me on his motivation. However, his results speak volumes which I need not. He is reaching a generation of parentless children grown into principally manhood and that comes from a concern for the person not the fame.

[@alliemw]

True but it's needed for those that aren't getting it otherwise.

[@BrianHallmond]

I've lost all hope. I feel numb. Not sad. I just don't want anything anymore. I've fallen so many times and the time is flying past and more wrinkles are forming every day. I've wasted my life.

[@allinmybackyard3988]

The best time to start always is NOW. The lost time accounts to you learning how bad doing nothing is.

[@mikecurran468]

Listening to Peterson reminds me of listening to Richard Feynman. Both make an observation and say "this is very interesting," then explain their observations in detail.

[@supahsmashbro]

Man this is good stuff.

[@ogbrown1073]

you are amazing.. i've doubted myself for a long time because i tought the same way as you are speeking.. now i see i wasn't crazy for seeing things clear... thank you..!!!

[@Robert-ri7mt]

Same for me aswell....

[@Quinefan]

Either that or JBP is crazy too 😉😂

[@ImEverythingYouCrave]

I'm so grateful we can watch this for free

[@Arbitros1]

This explains so much. When i came back from deployment and I took my 2 weeks of leave the first few days were great sure, but after that I was depressed, miserable, and worse than i ever was during those 8 months. I thought it was weird that I was actually better when I went back to my shitty job on my shitty boat working with my shitty co workers. I thought that was just how I was wired, but this clears that up. I need to DO something with my time. If i'm just sitting around then yeah I might as well be depressed and suicidal. Even if it's stupid, even if i get to get out of work early, even if the work that day is easy and easily forgotten, I need SOMETHING that I HAVE TO do.

[@vladiputin4904]

Live your life my friend, much love to you

[@writerconsidered]

Jordan Peterson covered that once, he said human beings do best mentally when they are working. I think he said we are natural workhorses.

[@Deridus]

Shit, man. Garrison sucks compared to deployments. I admit that I was the REMF of all REMFs, but still... a year at Fort Drum was murder after a year in the Sand Box.

[@MrJypsye]

pat yourself on the back because you have officially passed the conditioning test of society. you are now a submissive machine to everyone but yourself. a well oiled cog in the system of counters other gears and pullys. you have lost your individuality to the hive

[@Deridus]

Okay... What are you going on about, Beef Rat? Who's unable to think/act for themselves? Seems to me you're spouting nothing but trafe tripe.

[@ogbrown1073]

you took away my fear for responsability.... thank you for that...

[@rocksparadox]

OG Brown Now you have the ability to take your responsibility for spelling the word right too! Go ahead bucko, work towards a unified and clear way of communicating!

[@17shdqkaixc5bkiye7]

Ass

[@Deridus]

Today, I was about five seconds from quiting my job... The only reason I couldn't allow myself to follow through with it is that I have the responsibility to provide for my daughter. Then I come home and see this. Makes me think that perhaps I am doing the right thing after all. There is little more praise I can give to an intelectual than to say, "I considered what you said." I have judged this lecture and found it not wanting. I look forward to watching and hearing more!

[@aosabi]

Keep your job, but search for another in the mean time if you feel dissatisfied with your current work. However, this is coming from someone who has never had a legitimate job in their life. So I may simply envy you.

[@jodybanks5344]

Deridus how does it feel when your daughter looks at you and smiles ? Because of you she has the ability to smile ! Stay true to her and the happiness. And everything else in this cruel sick ass world doesn't mean shit! Love gentlemen is what I live for today .

[@2bUSA]

You may be dealing with this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3eXmHecqLlrmJo

[@MrBenji0]

idk man, this is sounding like a cope

[@Deridus]

I got what I wanted, y'all. The scheduel still sucks, but that's not too bad. No job is perfect, but there are times when it is too late to cut losses. I'm not there yet, but I'm still looking.

[@erso3302]

A man needs a purpose.

[@nightfangs2910]

er so all people need purpose, what are you without it ?

[@charlotte8659]

And women don’t?

[@horizonb1744]

Charlotte I don’t think the purpose of his comment was to say women don’t need a purpose

[@aaabbb-pg2zk]

@@charlotte8659 Women don't need purpose, right.

[@hynjie]

@@aaabbb-pg2zk You're gonna have a hard time finding a girlfriend if you don't decide to grow up.

[@ohyeahfilm]

My eyes just lit up ...

[@drooleybob]

This teared me up. Thank you Dr. Peterson.

[@amberfun9148]

We love you Mr. Peterson!!!!!

[@NicholasLashway]

Whenever I feel burned out from my audiobooks and want to listen to something inspiring, I put on one of Jordan Peterson’s lectures. Even if I’ve already watched it a few times

[@IAmNotYourFriendXOXO]

Thank you, Essential Truth. I love this guy. I could listen to him talk all day. :)

[@notsquirrel8141]

This made me cry.

[@alliemw]

I like him very much because he doesn't falter in his beliefs when challenged, he doesn't back down to suit who he's speaking to. I'm closer to his age and most of what he says isn't news to me, but I think to younger generations this may be brand new information.

[@Edd25164605]

Love this man's videos.

[@mattlourer9692]

Haven't lost my way but have decided to go it alone. Pay off my debt. Work all the time. No dope or alcohol. Just tired of paying the way for others. Then go see the world alone. No waiting on someone else. Course I'm an introvert that lives in the middle of the woods and life is grand.

[@tripjj8662]

this was the video that changed it all for me nearly a year ago

[@britshell]

Great Video!!

[@wyattE415]

Every now and again I enjoy taking a quick scroll through the KZbin comments on a Dr. Jordan Peterson video. It is so interesting/cool to see just how many people are getting red-pilled by him. It happened to me several months ago, but the farther you go with his material, the more there is to see into his remarkable knowledge and wealth of wisdom.

[@ignatius7979]

Wow.. simply the truth and only that

[@daryll4645]

This guy has no idea how much he is improving my life

[@anxietyebriety6553]

I feel everything he's said in this clip.

[@robertferreiro3466]

YES SO TRUE....

[@harshpherwani6590]

FML Mr Peterson is amazing

[@tonybaratta9264]

this is truly amazing. it is such a simple idea but it explains so much about human nature

[@swirlcrop]

This is a very good talk. He really does such good for our changing society.

[@gorgormany14s]

He should write a book for men. I think we need it.

[@hhoward14]

Brilliant...

[@shadow50HD]

I cried man...

[@breadman5048]

😔

[@SonBrimmer]

Watching Jordan Peterson be himself is really inspiring.

[@bagofsteel9152]

What Jordan Peterson didn't realize is the reason why those men are showing up to listen to him is because of the lack of nonfictional decent male role models in this world.

[@Sebastian_Hahn]

+Jonathan like what?

[@alliemw]

I think he does now...

[@uzard3860]

My eyes were light up

[@prowland8471]

I wish I could have had him as a teacher in college.

[@ernasabbel8762]

Hes great!!

[@79masshole]

Smart man.

[@Starbat88]

I wish I could like this video ten times.

[@sameerroshan9542]

you can.

[@WillTheFrozen]

accurate 100%right i the head

[@MrTigracho]

If only I had seen this video three years ago. . .or anything from this man

[@Aklemvaeo]

His message applies to me, but perhaps not in the negative way. I carved my way through Canadian college simply to be able to fund my own hobbies - such as my desire to improve my understanding of what I studied (electronics) on my own terms, using my own resources, outside of a politically charged educational climate. On top of that, my career provided me financial access to my own house and shop/garage in which I could branch out my knowledge into things like welding and metal work.

[@henrywalker630]

Wow, literally everything he says makes sense.

[@Shmandalf]

One of my favourite quotes is by author Andrew Solomon. "Forge meaning, build identity." This says to me, that meaning isn't something that is given to us, or revealed to us, but rather that we make our own meaning in life. Part of that is indeed taking responsibilities for ourselves and the things that matter to us, because those things not only help us define who we are, but also give our lives a sense of purpose we otherwise may not have. One of the most meaningful things that has gotten me through a lot of periods where I lost my way, was the responsibility I took on when I bought my dog. She was a puppy, and from the way she turned out, one of the greatest successes of my young life. If I hadn't taken on that responsibility at all, my life ultimately would feel less meaningful, I imagine. Giving her a great life has given me meaning in some small way, and that's something that will stick with me forever. What is something that you took responsibility for, that has led to giving your life meaning?

[@dcworld4349]

I really wish I could find a way to actually lift that load, I promise I'm not trying to make excuses or run from responsibility. It's just that my daily life is literally nothing but physical pain from the moment I wake up until I fall asleep at night. And because of the pain I haven't slept through an entire night for over 8 years now. Once it got pretty much concluded that the fight to get back my normal body wasn't one that I was going to win I thought, "well ok, if I can't fix my body, then I can at least try to elevate my mind". And I did, I couldn't take as many courses as I wanted all at once since alot of my time is spent just trying to get by, but forced myself to even on bad days either read 100 pages or write 5 pages. For a while it worked, I felt I was still wasting away but I got to do it on my terms. Then things went from really bad to a complete nightmare and I actually started to resent people if they told me something positive about what I had done. Because it feels hollow, I don't feel that I'm actually contributing anything or have en responsibilities that I can be proud of. Why does it matter that I can know these things I have been studying, or the things that I have written when I can't actually put it to use in the real world. So I calculated what the rest of my life would look like however long that may end up being and came to the conclusion that I would be sparing myself and my family alot of pain and yes money by simply not being in their life anymore. If it wasn't for the fact that I calculated the dose incorrectly not taking into account how much tolerance my body had built up, I would be dead right now. I was actually happy that night I went to sleep, I put on my favorite audio book, took the pills and it felt like I was going to sink into a sleepless slumber. The next thing I know I'm seeing some crazy shit that I haven't told anybody cause their going to think I'm more insane then they already think. Then I wake up the next morning and I felt such disappointment, shame and then a dread came over me cause I would have to explain why a bunch of pills was missing. Took them six months before they trusted that I was no longer suicidal, only problem is that I still am, I have days that I want to die, but I couldn't tell them that cause for some damn reason whenever I tried to talk about how good I felt when I thought I was going to die, they started throwing all this bullshit that life is sacred and one doctor even said she would never do such a thing and would be doing the same job even if she was paralyzed from the neck down. And people with disabilities can accomplish things, which is true, but I'm not a Hawking that is smart enough to know how to utilize my mind in a way that feels fulfilling. I just know enough to know that I'm not normal, even when I felt I wasn't challenged intelectually when there was a period of my life where I did grunt work, I actually felt happy doing it. The feeling of having done something in the company of others even though it was fairly simple made me happier then any bloody school day (which in my case where literal at times depending on how hard the bullies hit me), or self studying. I'm not just lost at sea on a boat, I'm floating on a wooden door with not even a paddle, and the only reason I haven't drowned myself is because I now feel guilty about what my family went through. It's a treadmill that is extremely tirring but you get none of the self respect from it.

[@Quetzalcoatl_86]

Your words deeply pierced me. I wanted to check on you now. I hope you can find happiness in each day, even if it's just a small happiness. I am deeply depressed myself, to where I see no light sometimes. I don't want you feeling that way. I know all too well the feelings of wanting to just end it all. Keep writing, keep listening.

[@Nova-pw8bn]

Jordan Peterson be my dad ❤️

[@RogerBarraud]

Ewwww

[@joejones9497]

Jeez... the sheer level of clarity and insight just out of those simple curves on the blackboard and a few observations about what they mean. The only thing that he doesn't seem to be stressing at all is not just rights/responsibilty, but there also has to be balance. He tends to dump all the responsibility on men. It can't be like that. It has to be balanced. Not necessarily about the same things. But with reciprocity. E.g. if you want men to stop doing things women don't want it has to be balanced with women being asked to take responsibility for making it clear what they want and when and when they don't not to be brutal about it, etc. etc.

[@danarochelle35]

It's actually much simpler than that... If both males and females would simply DO what they are inherently designed to do, there already IS a natural balance in place called complementary competencies. It's all in the biology, which is what drives the psychology and the sooner people would quit fighting for things that they've never been designed for, the better off the whole world would be.

[@begreat6896]

I don’t think he’s dumping all the responsibility on men. I interpret it as women have been cared for and taught what they’re supposed to do, so they have and know their responsibilities. Men have been left to their own devices, so we don’t know our responsibilities. Boys have far less masculine role models than girls have feminine role models. It just seems like he’s dumping all the responsibility on men because men are the focus of the lecture

[@therenz31]

the information you provide is free. females are getting their information directly from their universities or institutions

[@ihurtmyi90]

I was disagreeable as a teen to the point I did mostly what I wanted to do and nearly none of what I didn't, I'm truly glad I've changed alot took awhile to grow up for me almost 28 now do all the things I hate doing at least 65% of the time, but have realized I have time to do what I want as well and the truth is doing what you want all the time gets old and makes even new things unenjoyable. Me at 23 would tell you where to go and exactly how to get there. Found a good woman had kids, worked my ass off to keep it, grew up, found true ethics and morals, started to work on myself as a human that you have to care about.

[@lucasgill7819]

Wow...

[@JR-eq4vv]

It's funny, even when I hate my job or where I am, I always feel like I go most insane when I'm at home with my dad, unemployed. It's like, even at trade school, I was just bloody exhausted all of the time and really didn't like half the people around me because of their generally degenerate behavior and attitude about things, but even there I managed to keep my head above the water. There were some days where I felt like collapsing from exhaustion and boredom at training, but I always kept going because I was a part of a brotherhood on campus, and amazingly, they, or at least the guys in the group, thought I was a great man, and like, I didn't even understand why. All I did was show up to PT, make sure no one was doing something or saying something they shouldn't, keeping our dorm clean, following orders, enforcing rules, and that's it. I actually got annoyed with myself and stressed out because it felt like I was just constantly going, but people admired me so much for it they gave me good nicknames, so I kept going, and never snapped on anyone, because I didn't want to let my team down, and I wanted to be good leader, and a good influence. Also, I just hate it when people call me or try to talk to me while I'm typing something like this. I know they're just checking up on me, and I love them for that, but it's just such an intrusion on my thought process while I'm in the middle of having what feels like some grand revelation, and then out of the blue my attention is taken off of it and put onto something completely mundane and routine and completely irrelevant. And then I get back to my thought process and have to make sure I'm not missing anything while also trying not to ramble in a desperate attempt to recapture that last train of thought, and it's like the worst case of philosophical and emotional blue balls ever. Anyways. And then I go back home, out in the middle of the country, with no job. There's nothing that NEEDS to be done, except in sporadic bursts, usually when I'm right in the middle of something important like a thought of story, or at least something enjoyable like a game. Then I think "Damn. I could write a story, but I don't have a job, and I need a job so I can be a proper man, and not be a burden on my dad's house, and so I can have a structure to base my plans around. Because if I do nothing all day but write or play video games, I feel guilty, like I'm freeloading, but I don't know what else to do. There's no rec center or anyone my age to hang out with within 50 miles of where I live, and even if there was, I severely lack social skills and find myself getting bored VERY easily when just hanging out with people. What am I gonna do? Run or skate up and down the highway and possibly get hit by an 18-wheeler? Run around in circles in my dad's yard? " So then I try to work on something creative, but I'm daunted by it, because not only do I have the guilt of not working, but I think to myself, if I can practice playing the guitar or write all day long, then damn. That's a lot of writing. That's kind of intimidating. Even though it brings me as much joy as playing a video game, but the thing is, I for some reason, want things to be perfect when working on art, and at home, there's a lot of distractions and interruptions, both externally, and inside my guilt-riddled mind that feels it needs to do something more work-oriented. So it's like, if I have a job and a place of my own, at least I'm fully in control of my own life. I know that there's a set time frame during the day that I have to work, and there's a set period before and after work where I prepare for the next day, unless tomorrow's Saturday. So I know that after I get all of those things out of the way, I've done the very base things that I need to do to stay afloat and fulfill my role in society, and now there's a set, fixed, specific period in the day that I can devote to more creative pursuits guilt-free, which I believe is that structure Jordan Peterson talked about. And then I think "Ooh! If I had money and a place of my own, not only will I have more control over how I spend my time and will no longer feel useless, unworthy, and easy to take out, but I can get more creative with my hobbies and how I spend my free time, and I can practice learning new skills and gaining more information at a community center or community college or library, and I could maybe start socializing with people my age and do things I really want to do like learn how to rollerskate, or deliver food to the homeless, or start a community garden, or volunteer to build and repair homes in the community, or get involved with a church ministry and maybe play the drums for them, and then I'll have an even greater sense of purpose, and maybe I'll get to be around people that I can talk to about spirituality and life and God, and maybe I can meet a woman or at least someone in general that I can have meaningful conversation with and actually feel equal to and worthy for and can actually see them regularly", and it just goes on. It's just searching for a job is genuinely frustrating, and triggers a fight-or-flight response in me. I assume it's because every time I fail to get a job, that's just one less option I have in way of providing for myself, which means I'm less likely to get away from home and be useful, which means I'm that much closer to my student loan debt swallowing me whole. Before watching this video, I was dreading the idea of getting a job working at a fast food restaurant or grocery store because I hate the idea of putting myself in a position where I'm going to get treated like shit while only making $7 an hour and barely able to pay my monthly bills and expenses, let alone pay back my student loan debt. And then I start comparing myself to others and thinking of all my friends who have gotten to travel abroad and work big-wig jobs, even though I know not all of them could have gotten that lucky, and surely all of them have at least some problems in their own life. Now, I think I would find it a relief just to get any job possible.

[@codacreator6162]

Responsibility that is both meaningful AND sustainable. When the responsibility becomes overwhelming, untenable, crushing it amounts to the same thing. We are overworking few while displacing many. The responsibility of society falls on all shoulders, equally. That means a fair and even distribution of labor and the proceeds of labor. Instead, we have a few who hoard resources and extract a disproportionate level of wealth from the proceeds of those resources and leave the laborers broken and the dispossessed empty.

[@Martineztkttuchdapen]

Jordan Peterson: Hope for men who DO NOT KNO DA WEY

[@robbalderman3551]

Its not just responsibility that men need and desire; it's the appreciation, respect, self worth, and the feeling of a job well done that comes from managing those responsibilities. A man usually garners his self respect from his job; however, just working and being responsible, in and of itself, is a hollow existence. The fruits of your labor, hopefully to include a home and family, are what really makes the effort worthwhile... generally speaking.

[@brittonk13]

I relate to these ideas and I think I have suffered for most of my 34 years with this inability to turn the things I desire into reality. Some things about me you might not expect: I started quarterback for the top ranked high school football team in the nation for 2002. I enlisted in the US Navy and was awarded the top recruit out of 84 in boot camp. Finished 5.5 years as a Navigation Electronics Technician/Quartermaster. I only type these out formally because they are great accomplishments that I really don’t think I was able to feel personal gratitude for. Something is misprogrammed for me but I am hoping to get this settled so I can save my relationship. 🤦🏼‍♂️ Thanks for your great videos.

[@MrJypsye]

this guy speaks like meaning isn’t subjective to the individual

[@Belfreyite]

I hear everything you say Jordan. The bind seems to be does self regard come from without or within? Some of us are so damaged in early years that we are almost ruined for life and the realisation forces a damage control limitation exercise. What's needed is more "Brotherly" love. Maybe competition militates against this.

[@drania76]

Stephon Delvalle men know how to fix things and prune hedges which is useful.

[@discoveryman59]

Jordan Peterson can you give a little talk the the Toronto Maple Leafs? They are ?Men? without a propose in life. They have wandered around aimlessly for 50 years and I'm concerned for their future.

[@KedaiNasi]

the reason why males (at least for me) are interested in JP's lecturers is because we have responsibilities and we don't know how to understand ourselves to move forward to a better future. what we have today is expensive seminars or mediocre motivation that doesn't really teach you anything. I have been on a self discovery journey for 3 years, and JP seems to have completed my self discovery journey. go get his Self Authoring program, it really helps. what I need now is just make myself strong, be happy and fight the world again. thank you JP.

[@InsertNameHere73894]

"Up yours". Yeah, that sounds like me.

[@bannablitz247]

So Dr. Peterson, I need to decide on something I want to do and shoot for that dam star. I think I will do it, and I needed to hear it from you and not my father. It may have been the way he said it or maybe I have been rebellious and slightly resentful.

[@hhoward14]

Bart Simpson, when finding that the Santa Claus whose knee he is on, is really his moonlighting father, says" You must really love us dad, to have stooped so low". I am so glad that Jordan has studied the human condition, via the Simpsons... I feel validated.

[@dalunedravir5696]

Hope for men who've lost their way... to the plantation.

[@Vention1MGTOW]

We want to carry a load but the plantation these days is slavery.

[@dalunedravir5696]

If you want to carry a load, do it for yourself, not the owner of plantation, and expect getting paid for the energy, sweat, and blood that you put on it or leave and finding your own way to live as happy as you are. PS: Are you sure you're not a trad-con?

[@Stu31041]

The meaning of 911 seems to be lost on this guy. Who are you going to work for?

[@slivven]

GD this hits the nail on the head doesn't it?

[@benplus2053]

11:01 i believe some ones eyes have been lightning up

[@JoneseyTheCat18]

This resonates with me so god damn much. FUCK.

[@gregazajko]

Jordan peterson is simpy geniy. Respect

[@adamhorner3950]

I'm nearly 25 y/o and have never had a "real job," as I've been a student basically my entire life(successfully earned a B.S. in Biology). However, I wouldn't say that I enjoy having responsibilities, I've always just "done what I had to" out of obligation, perceived or otherwise. I've been out of school now for basically two years(I spent ~4 months in a Masters Program, but discovered I didn't enjoy it at all, so I dropped out. So I don't exactly count that.) and I do genuinely enjoy NOT having set responsibilities. I know that's really odd and probably abnormal, though. Can anyone relate to this and do they know how to enjoy/want to work/responsibilities? Currently, I'm just trying to motivate myself with the thought of "I can easily buy things that I want once I have an income of my own."

[@fwijffels]

Adam Horner But do you have something to live for? A GF, set of good friends, family, a passion for a certain hobby/sport/dreamjob etc? I have the same issue as you and it makes me useless, I don't really have any of such things to live for and feel the responsibility, so that's what I'm working on..

[@adamhorner3950]

I do. I have some good friends, a family that loves me, several hobbies that I love, and a dreamjob that I'm SLOWLY working toward. I just don't like the idea of a "real job" for some reason.. Plus it gives me a lot of anxiety to even think about. But I'm trying to work on it. WE will make it, friend. It'll just take some time and effort:)

[@fwijffels]

Adam Horner Then it would seem that 'longterm gratification' is the problem, but what do I know haha, yeah someday we'll figure it out✌️

[@shredder213]

I finished a 2 year degree in biotechnology in 2009 right after the economy collapsed. My plan had been to enter the workforce at that point before determining what field to further pursue. I also crashed my car on the way to school and my GF of 2 years left me, we were already finished at that point for the most part...ready to move on to the next stage of our lives...but at that point I had no life to move on to. I was turning 30 and had no career, no kids....ended up working at Starbucks and started getting into hard drugs. Not exactly my best decision making but at the time I was devastated. A couple of rough turns later I still haven't managed to find a career and it hurts. I would love nothing more than to have a "real job" that I loved, or at least somewhat liked...to be realistic here. I guess you are still significantly younger but work and responsibility do help give you a sense of purpose and fulfillment. Don't avoid it forever.

[@ukko8457]

Add social anxiety to that and emotional numbness really not much to do, hard to get to know people and nothing really feels good, everything just feels meaningless.

[@bubs436]

do something, not for the responsibility, but for the achievement.

[@EmmanAdventures]

To Jordan Peterson: I've been thinking about this idea of usefulness. The difficulty isn't so much as identifying things that will be useful in everyday life, rather; identifying what is useful without a moral absolute. If you have all your needs met, and a stable path for the future, what else is worth doing? If you believe in God, or are married, or have kids, it seems like a simple decision to keep moving forward, but with single men who don't have any close relationships, there is a form of Nihilism that takes place. Goal seeking seems like a logical step for finding meaning, but we get overwhelmed with the study of axiology. I've often thought of things I would like to do before I die, and many times of things that I aught to do, but I don't feel that I am obligated by society (or humanity for that matter,) because I feel I've paid my debts. Psychologically yes, I suppose it doesn't matter if the logic is sound, so long as going through the motions provides a state of mental wellbeing. I'm 34 and feel burnt out. I don't think I can find it within myself to try and find meaning by doing random acts of humanism. Thank you for the thoughtful content, I look forward to your future videos. haha I guess you would consider me high on the disagreeable spectrum haha Best regards, Emmanuel

[@maxnaz47]

@ 1:12 "Oh crap, i better do my job"...

[@lloydridges7560]

Ironically, I hit that point of there isn't anything worth getting a job for after a couple years of meditating. It was very freeing in the sense that I realized that I was completely in control of my life (if I wanted, I could die before doing something I didn't want), but it made me very detached from society and cynical of it. I have yet to come across anything (sex, money, power, drugs) worth burdening with a job/entrepreneurship over. I still have bills that get paid by other family members. I am riding the gravy train. Nonetheless, relying on others for money feels shitty. The fact that working for money feels shitty and relying on others for money feels shitty has made me often consider abandoning everything and living in the woods like an animal, killing myself, or just stealing from people.

[@donchello2128]

Lloyd Ridges what do you do when you have free time?

[@drummerboy737]

Sometimes I think personal expression or challenging onself to an extreme degree like sports or any proclivity can have an internal meaning with it. These things are outside the rat race but are fulfilling. It's all that comes close next to helping save the world.

[@JohnDoe-id1es]

Mad Max why such hate and anger??

[@laserflexr6321]

Just reading the way you express yourself I can tell that you have the capacity to think things through. I had a similar, ah call it a midlife crisis if you want, so I can relate to what your saying. I have a lot of confidence that once you have completed your self assessment, and come to know who you really are, you are gonna be fine. Then you can pick a direction, see a destination in the distance, , plot a course and go for it. Not for anyone else, but for Lloyd. And who knows you might bump in to someone else who is heading the same direction to share the journey with.

[@vladiputin4904]

Well, there you have the responsability. Staying alive, to experience the live as good as you can and still be a part of the society so everyone can get a chance to do the same.

[@optimisticallyskeptical1842]

Is this in reference to "the beautiful ones"?

[@optimisticallyskeptical1842]

Another factor may be that many men are, in my opinion, inquisitive and are naturally attracted to logic and logical thinking even with interpersonal politics that can occur in daily life and the "immature" behavior that we can engage in in our free time. I can appreciate insightful commentary or instruction whether you are talking with us, at us, or amongst us. As well, I have stated the same to others that why would I have to grow and interact on a higher level if all I can look forward to being called a racist and not getting credit for my hard work. Others are typically those that ask that question "where have all the good men gone". Simple: they got tired of being accused and belittled and withdrew, almost like "the beautiful ones". But I encourage the youth to improve themselves regardless of their situation and how they may feel. They should feel free to remain single but to at least obtain pets and hobbies if they do so. In other words, find something you are or can be passionate about.

[@anthonygenovese2371]

______ Brodozer! You're going to, like, totally win an award, or something....

[@RawHeadRay]

on the money, ouch!

[@wrathofme03]

Thank God....there is finally a pushback from the flimsy and whimsical ways that we are moving past as a society. May the pushback win. Society used to be very rigid and oppressive for some....and then the pendulum swung all the way in the opposite direction as a reaction and too many people decided that nothing was sacred or worth fighting to maintain. Now hopefully from the ashes of a chaotic society will rise some return to order but one more liberated, fair, and just than before.

[@truthsetsusfree5096]

Thank God . (And it was good)

[@jan-eriksandli6221]

I believe the Muslim chick in the front with the burka, jumped a little as Mr.Peterson said "Jesus".hehe.

[@EliasOwnage95]

Jan-Erik Sandli thats not a burka or burqa* dumbass, and why the fuck would she jump from hearing the name Jesus

[@truthsetsusfree5096]

Why the fuck ? Because the fuck . Jump for Jesus , you silly duck ! ~ Qwentin Qwerty Quantumlasers Quack Quack Quack

[@truthsetsusfree5096]

A day not jumped for Jesus is a day not lived.

[@darknightbegins85]

"No credit for bearing responsibility" Bingo. Fuck it, lets work with no reward, lets sacrifice with no outcome or respect. Fuck that

[@raumfahreturschutze]

2:03 fuck, is that what makes someone disagreeable? I'm 100% that person.... I thought I was pretty agreeable.

[@freddyfox5002]

It's society that lost it ways. That's why we don't even try to "fit in". JP lost his way when he starting taking anti-depression.

[@imawarrior313]

Lord save me please 💔

[@inhale.exhale.2527]

Don't wait for a saviour. You have to save yourself. ✌

[@SidLane]

wait, did Dr Jordan Peterson ACTUALLY use the words: "I deconstructed it"?!? I about spewed covfefe all over a Mac when he did that! :D

[@mikemetzgore2712]

Man I would have killed for a teacher like this. especially growing up, being the unagreeable little smartass I was. I did not want to be taught by a teacher staff that was 90% old ladies. It just does not work. I would have listened to him, however. A lot of Boys need a male teacher, who is competent and can be a good example to them. just my two cents on the issue.

[@ArkaelDren]

Don't cut out slow parts please. His facial movements and physical behaviorism I need to see.

[@anduinsargeras6607]

I wouldn't mind a responsibility if only I could justify it by plain "because I can". For now it doesn't give any meaning/sense of purpose in life whatsoever. I also find myself incapable of choosing anything to do, to reach in life, because whatever it is, is either next to impossible to achieve (some advanced physics studies for example) or utterly boring (IT/programming for example). The only thing I could actually achieve is getting as fit as I want, but again, what good does it, if it doesn't help interacting with world in any meaningful way? Can anyone relate to this/give an advice? (I apologize for my english mistakes.)

[@bubs436]

you cant argue with the youth

[@nightfangs2910]

Responsibility the ave to despair, like he pointed out when he said middle aged white guys turn to drugs when they lose their jobs, if they weren't taught being responsible is the be all end all they would not be desperate in the first place, purpose in life is important not responsibility, doing what is important to YOU not responsible to everyone else but you