Jordan Peterson Talks to a Dopamine Expert Αbout Masturbation

#jordanpeterson
Watch the full video here: • Neuroscience Meets Psy...

[@Ddalu5]

"It's the big peaks in dopamine, that are not associated with any prior effort or organisation of self, that are particularly dangerous for the human being" 💯💯💯

[@The_Gallowglass]

Aka, it's a drug.

[@AdrianDeer]

I think i am too frustrated to actually care about this. I cant really connect with this society anymore. People dont even make eye contact with you.. It is hard to live like it is before the smartphone age.. it will never be like it was before.

[@Hunturds]

@@AdrianDeer Keep trying. Try to trust more in others. Be Curious of other, do you have family near to you?

[@AdrianDeer]

@@Hunturds thanks for the caring thought ^^ My family is something that really is taking energy from me atm.. aswell as that i feel like i should be more successful and feel like i am more of a let down to them.. kinda ambivalent isnt it? :P

[@Hunturds]

@@AdrianDeer it will Always be in Your power only to be better. Try not to stress yourself too much on feeling not as Succesful as you should be. I’m feeling in a similiar boat as you. I’m 22 and still living with my Mom, haven’t worked too much in my adult life. I can tell that you Do care about this stuff, by the comment you left. Try not to blame it on the smartphone age, and you’re on the right track I’d say by watching these videos. I can’t offer so much advice haha. I feel like a loser at times myself. Just know people Do care about you and, try to keep your eyes open for opportunities. Andrew Huberman has a lot of great advice about dopamine/neuroscience, and Jordan has opened my eyes to a good amount of things.

[@bigmyke2008]

Two of the most brilliant public intellectuals of our time

[@john_mckinney]

….talking about masturbaing

[@Yellowdigigod]

Woah! Awesome cross-over! I listen the Hubberman Lab Podcast every week

[@janecooke9151]

The problem with pornography before first time intimacy has been experienced is that that person then thinks that is normal sexual interaction between a man and woman. They don’t realise that it’s targeted at men who are visually stimulated, a lot of what happens in pornographic movies just isn’t real life, which in turn means young men enter a first relationship with unrealistic expectations/thoughts of how it should be.

[@amfarrell42]

It also makes you a much worse lover. Good sex is playful and affectionate and exploratory. Porn sex is exhibitionist and inattentive and often brutal.

[@svenboelling5251]

Mhh. . . the point with the rats reminded me that many years ago I said somewhere that I live in a cage, the way our society is built with all that stuff. In particular, this was to be understood in such a way that there is hardly any way to live with nature anymore. It starts with time, when you are woken up by an alarm clock and not by the first rays of the sun, and goes to the point that the seasons have hardly any influence on your daily life aso.

[@thomascranor9505]

THESE GUYS 🙌🏼

[@Rocket-rs1eb]

Why the VS thumbnail tho 🤷‍♂️

[@slimofbonar1978]

I must have had a ton of dopamine in my teens lol

[@Godsgurl]

SHIT, I know I did,lol...

[@g718ny]

I definitely read this title incorrectly

[@Red_AIert]

A good yank occasionally provides post nut clarity which may keep behaviors in line instead of waking up next to someone you don’t want to be there. 🤔

[@peperry8349]

Hes not talking about the odd wank, hes talking about debilitating addiction which i struggle with if you have any questions

[@InsanitysApex]

@@peperry8349 Sure, I have one question. When are you going to get serious about quitting? You want public sympathy and connection for your addiction (further forms of reinforcement and dopamine arguably) and yet I'm curious if you're half as commited to quitting as you are to putting your repeated failures on full display with no hesitation. So... when are you going to start taking yourself seriously (about quitting)?

[@yoyoholck]

@@InsanitysApex well said

[@HaasGrotesk]

@@InsanitysApex Damn bro! Change your name to Yoda! That wisdom man!

[@mrbluesummers]

@@InsanitysApex I'd like to know what places you in such a position to judge the depth and circumstances of someone based off a statement. Whether or not they are trying to progress in anyway isn't your business any more than he offered to oblige.

[@thelastofgus]

What happened to Dr. Andrew's eyes at the 13-415 second mark?

[@slimofbonar1978]

very interesting

[@svavar82]

What about prostate cancer? Studies have shown that to masturbate is necessary for males, but the most important talking point is how many times a month you should.

[@ciaranperry4677]

There's far too many variables, taoists all practiced semen retention, living until very old age was standard for them.

[@Godsgurl]

@@ciaranperry4677 Yeah, and they lie. Waking up wet down there, oh my ,whatever could this be?? 😆

[@dasein9980]

@@Godsgurl exactly. I don't see how you could practice semen retention and not have wet dreams. It would happen eventually.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

really , how many times per week is more realistic

[@Godsgurl]

@@kantraxoikol6914 To me,and I'ma no doctor, but, if it feels good ,do it. Listen to your body,it never lies..Gets rid of toxins too. Like poop and pee..Cheers!!

[@davidsonmg]

get that rush just thinking

[@mikeballard8404]

Part of the meth problem is the manufacturer is hooked on cooking the drug, he's a popular person in the junkie world.

[@wendypoisson_2222]

yep drinking alone is not good!!!!

[@danieltaylor2693]

If your an introvert by nature it's amazing

[@scrock8621]

Debated whether to watch this, knew it would ruin my favourite pastime

[@jonlogan1093]

I have some good news for you, men who ejaculate regularly are far less likely to physical problems like cancer, heart problems etc. So while psychologically there may be an argument to made about masturbation - when you consider the human body as a whole, men having orgasms is extremely good for them.

[@t54df12]

😂

[@Godsgurl]

@@jonlogan1093 That goes for women as well. I never go more than 3 days ,without loving my body and satisfying my lady parts..

[@urlocalproducer]

@@Godsgurl ok wtf

[@Godsgurl]

@@urlocalproducer I'ma lady,and yes, I masterbate. So what? I eat and drink food too. A natural part of living in this body.Keeps everything running like clockwork. I'ma 65 and a widow.Feels good..

[@wendypoisson_2222]

creates dysphoria

[@missionpupa]

Show me a great man who is a son of a great man.

[@d.j.russel4029]

So if I understand this right, and correct me if I am wrong, but as long as I clean my house after a good shake 'n bake, I will not experience any dopamine lows...

[@md3d519]

No because the dopamine lows happen right after you wank but cleaning your room would rise the base dopamine levels

[@adamnshame]

Clean your house before the shake 'n' bake, I think

[@david-stewart]

What's the DW logo? It's not Deutsche Welle. I wonder what it means

[@ksj4922]

Daily wire. Its a media company that Ben Shapiro and another dude found together.

[@ismaelnunez6402]

Daily Wire

[@david-stewart]

@@ismaelnunez6402 thank you!

[@paulhowden720]

When Ur Saks full get it out .

[@svavar82]

You should, unless you want to invite prostate cancer.

[@Josh-sj9ig]

Wow... What a sexy title...

[@njoe5721]

seems like you could argue that NoFap movement actually has some scientific validity

[@frolieberg]

Is Dr. Peterson wearing a willy wonka style suit?

[@celestialsounds8313]

Does it have the same effect if youre in a sexual relationship as well?

[@The_Gallowglass]

It probably can, esp if you're having a rough patch with your partner.

[@distributistsshrekvideo]

it neuters you a bit but its good for having children and taking care of your girl. The thing is, after a while your lust goes down with the same partner.

[@Tion_Dudley_Gaming]

Mmm i always have felt that this topic is not a negative as if used right can be so beneficial, i take this from a viewpoint of transferring of sexual energy and using this desire and turning it into something else. I think alot of men just do it wrong . Your not suppose to ejacuate but just have an orgasm, orgasm are the key to the release of sexual energy and when your conscious enough you can move it. As a man i have practice this technique to just only have orgasm without the excess lost and my life is if not transcend, its so much to explain but it really has its benefits . I feel that this release of dopamine if channeled correct is important

[@kantraxoikol6914]

that's what anti depressants do...they take your sex, and give you motive supposedly...all it did for ME in particular, was be MORE depressed. so the pill they gave you needs another pill to get an errection, because the other pill that's supposedly making you happy , emasculated you. how's that a freaking help?

[@billybilly1284]

Peterson wins. What a surprise

[@firecrossstudios7040]

6:22

[@kashourikatsu2543]

Too much of anything is bad for you

[@Godsgurl]

Not sex, once a day for me is just right.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

exactly. howard stern proved that by killing someone with drinking too much water

[@user-pc9xc4ib5o]

@@Godsgurl that means more than once a day would be too much though

[@Godsgurl]

@@user-pc9xc4ib5o Yeah,sweetie, I get it. But sometimes, I just need to orgasem more than once a day. Weird bodies.

[@jesusruiz4017]

You 😮

[@halcyonzenith4411]

Why do we have this quasi religious idea that it is a sin for a man to enjoy anything unless he jumps through hoops to get it? Why do I have to beg permission from society to enjoy my own life?

[@donovannufable6285]

So, did you actually open the brain to see what happens with dopamine receptor!

[@DocOrtmeyer]

So you’re not talking about masturbation but porn

[@andrewdavis6955]

HAHAH , if you are seeking Sexual release through pornography & you go through the whole cycle and you get a prolactin release, Do you bond with yourself ? 🤣😂 4:36

[@Principles_of_Psychology]

Nice theoretical talk. But where is the empirical evidence that porn/masturbation have adverse effects? As far as I know, there is no such evidence for the general population. There could be extreme cases of porn/masturbatuon addiction. But for most people, these things don’t seem to have demonstrable negative effects.

[@Godsgurl]

I've been with with two men/ boys like this. Both narcissist..

[@peperry8349]

Every single man i know at my age struggles with some form of porn/masturbation addiction and we all say it has negative consequences in our metal health. i know this is anecdotal but i feel it is something that has not been picked up on in tbe literature yet as is a tabboo and most men will not admit to this out of shame.

[@Godsgurl]

@@peperry8349 Exactly. With what the feminist and democrats did to masculinity, is a wonder the United States has any children made at all ,from a loving home. Absent fathers and neglected boys will grow up with a distorted view of themselves. Thinking they are not worthy of the love of a beautiful woman. Even if she openly adores him.

[@jawaherimohammed7955]

I'm not an expert on this. But just by observing my own self i can note a few. It's barely noticeable since a person consumes this media for a long time and the changes occur accordingly. Addiction to pornography and masterbation did not affect my physical behaviour however i can already see it is badly affecting my mental state. I went from getting a kick by just watching nudes to slowly getting the urge to raise my bar. This might be my own thought but personally i think long term addiction to these can lead to watching abhorrent/abnormal contents, resulting in fear,social downfall and at worst real life crimes.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

because like over eating....people can fat shame you, that's bad, but apparently masturbation shame is a deeply religious tactic of control. don't seek an outlet for it by doing what's natural....surpress it to the point priests have to molest little boys... go ahead...try to justify celibacy in that light.

[@lindav1189]

We women know that when we are "with" our men, they are likely comparing us, physically, to the erotic women on porn, or totally mentally concentrating not on US, but remembering his favorite porn. This is heartbreaking for us women, who, as you agree, feel sex is emotional, as well as, sexual.

[@Godsgurl]

You are dead wrong. Beauty comes from within. If you lack confidence,in your body, to please a man's body, then cultivate it. YOU MASTERBATE. Then, you will feel sexier,thus empowered. Love deeply, laugh loudly,kiss slowly..

[@felixcooks5435]

Absolutely not true and I know nobody that does that so it's highly unlikely that a high percentage of men do that.

[@kashourikatsu2543]

Lol where did u get that idea? we focus on whats infront of us, i mean u have to be super fat and discusting for us to picture a pornstar..sounds like u got some insecirities.

[@dasein9980]

Linda that is your own insecurity speaking.

[@Godsgurl]

@@felixcooks5435 Exactly, I called her out in this bullshit. She drank the bitter drink of the narcissistic , mean faced, clipped haired feminist leftist, that are far from acting like a lady ,instead they want to act like they hate men..

[@notinterested8452]

No such thing.

[@ubayyd]

sure thing.

[@maribethcondrillon1079]

please stop pretending like a out drugs it's to much that motivation is nonesrnce because another humility of my self that is over and over again pas is AST it's sad to exerece why say about my privacy walangbsunu man and I'm not selling it and my reputation and dignity that's all

[@sterlingforbes3872]

You can get me to give up carbs, start exercising, make my bed and work on my mental health.... but this... it ain't going to happen. I enjoy it way too much.

[@patrciaclemons8183]

2

[@lindav1189]

BTW, I have a huge crush on the man who JP is talking to. He is an alpha male for sure. If only I were 40 years younger!!

[@g718ny]

You women always say these things when it's too late but when you are young and in your prime we don't exist 😜 😂

[@Godsgurl]

Poor excuse. I was just with a guy,for sexual release and friendship, a sweetheart, once and awhile he comes over.. Me,65,he 31. No excuses..

[@kantraxoikol6914]

and this is why your relationship fails...because two comments ago you wondered why you can't be the mans ideal women he sees on porn...well, there ya go...you're not 20 anymore are ya?

[@mohammadazer5923]

Who said he was going to accept you if u were 40 years younger?

[@Godsgurl]

We chose our mates.

[@tbgHercules]

Could’ve just called him Andrew Huberman lol dummy