if you stumble upon one of these or have one that needs help, here's how to get them tip top again. This video assumes the turntable has not had a motor failure or sustained an impact or fall.
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@julianzuazua7508Ай бұрын
I owe you a beer jordan. You helped bring my grandmother's disc player back to life.
@RC-74 Жыл бұрын
I followed your advice and ordered a new belt from Russell Industries last thursday. On the call with them they said the proper belt is the Fry23, not the Fry25.0. I told the guy that you said the 25.0 is the correct one so that is the one I want. I received the belt today and of course you were 100% correct! If I had ordered from them without viewing your video I probably would have to order again. Thank you for showing the bag with the correct belt!
@nuclearlo0ve Жыл бұрын
just found one of these at a resale shop for $50. cant wait to tune it up and ensure it works proper. ill be glued to this video! thanks much
@gsnfan Жыл бұрын
Got one like yours, had it nearly 2 decades, never had issues.
@ratboy717 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Mine got jostled around while moving, turns out the belt slipped off and got all tangled. Was able to fix it easily thanks to this vid
@randyrackley43407 ай бұрын
I just dug mine out of the closet after being stored for 20 years. I connected It to my soundbar. Records are sounding awesome. Enjoyed your video.
@michaelbyrne8860 Жыл бұрын
Great video very informative, I pickup Sony 250 at the Huntsville Goodwill a couple of years ago, for $4.99 and even had a 33 in it? I guess for test? But I was impressed how well it worked! Plays well I have other turntables but this 250 is easy to operate and now I've been shown how to turn it up I'll enjoy it more! Thanks for the video and I have subscribed be cool Byrne
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
Killer deal. I only ever see broken or incredibly expensive turntables at my local thrift stores.
@nuclearlo0ve Жыл бұрын
WOW what a STEAL!
@tarstarkusz Жыл бұрын
That cover came out looking really good. Great job as usual.
@maniatore2006 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that Video. I have an old player from 1982 it is an full automatic Player and even the speet can adjustet on the fromt. (pitch) buttons Start, Stop, Power, Up and down, and a Load, becours it is a drawer system. All Adjustment can be done from the top. that is much better serviceable. I have been build my own pre-AMP.
@tarstarkusz Жыл бұрын
You should invest in some mold making silicone and make copies of all of these common plastic parts. They will all go bad. It will brittle with age. It get brittle from age alone, so even NOS parts can be just as bad as parts coming in machines to be serviced. If you are in the business of repairing this stuff, the molds and plastic are cheap enough to make molds assuming each mold is not a single repair. If you have all the pieces, even if the pieces are broken, it's no big deal. Just glue them together and then mold the repaired piece. The repair will NEVER hold, but by molding the part, you can pour a brand new all one piece repaired part. You can also make knobs this way. Really, anything. The silicone is a fortune in small quantities, but the large container is much, much cheaper per ounce.
@edd1ejr Жыл бұрын
thank you for this awesome video, my son broke the needle off.
@johnhoog82798 ай бұрын
Thank you for the time and effort you've put into this quality video. Especially the belt and needle part specifics. I'll be able to get mine good as new.
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
I bought one of these at the low point of vinyl, around 2000. It was $99 at Circuit City. It still works very well, but I bought another one as a backup a few years back.
@mattantcliff5653 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Just got a 2nd hand one of these and after watching your video and putting the drive belt back on - its purr-fect :-)
@jasejj Жыл бұрын
These things have been around for decades, virtually unchanged. I had a Philips one, bought new in the mid 1980s that came with a midi system that, although outwardly it looked nothing like the Sony, was made in the same Hanpin factory in Taiwan and the mechanism was pretty much identical (no preamp of course, and it had a 12v barrel jack rather than a transformer). They had Sanyo cartridges at that time.
@rivards1 Жыл бұрын
This unit seems identical inside and out, including the same adjustment pots, to the Audio Technica AT-PL50 I picked up at Goodwill a few weeks ago.
@pedromartins841111 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation, I'm sorry I only saw it now... I confirm what you say at minute 7:08, I put an Amazon strap on, it played for a couple of hours and the engine died... :) I think it's time to buy a device more modern, maybe try a direct drive.
@debbiespalding5039 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. My turntable is not working at all. Not used much. I will try a few things.
@jonezyrugby9618 ай бұрын
Awesome video mate, having trouble with my on off switch. Any chance you have any photos of a working one and how the push/pull wire runs? Thanks
@davidhennig967 ай бұрын
Same Problem hier. The stop button isn’t working.
@LilStJames-dm7yc Жыл бұрын
Mine does not want to turn on at all and the motor does not spin. Do you know where to get replacement motors ? I am guessing it is the motor
@mu2359 ай бұрын
This is my issue. AC in is 127 Vac, get approximately 28 Vac on motor pins. Unsure what voltage SHOULD be.
@MrPede1001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great video. Easy and simple instruktions. Nice work…..
@JIMMMYJAYMZ197110 ай бұрын
Thank you this was very informative and helpful
@INTERNA99 ай бұрын
Thanx
@atommachine Жыл бұрын
If you have a Cd version and a Record, you match the speed like that if the Cd speed is Studio Correct.
@gianfrancodisimone27565 ай бұрын
thank Jordan, but I have a another problem. the stylus always remains on the same groove (it's doesn't move). How can I to fix the anti skating? Thanks in advance
@Harlan-yw5bz8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I was able to get my turntable up and running using your recommendations for the belt and the stylus. However I was going to clean out and re-grease the spindle bearing and instead of a set screw with a slotted head found on other turntables that I have worked on (as you mentioned) I found a pin with no slot and what looks to be a spot weld. I assume this is best left alone if it works fine?
@shailynfaf4 ай бұрын
Very helpful video!! I have the same turntable and my current issue is that the motor won't stop spinning when it's plugged in and 'start,' 'stop' buttons do not stop the spinning either. I have to unplug it to stop the turntable and to get the record off. Any idea how to fix this?
@JordanPier4 ай бұрын
Sounds like the switch that activates the motor may be stuck or broken. You'd have to open it up and look
@ArthurJS123 Жыл бұрын
I brought one of these into a trusted servicer recently. They told me it needed a new motor, which they could not get. So they scrapped it. I have the feeling they only looked for a brand new motor, which in the supply chain is unobtanium. They may have wanted to Jack up the profitability of the repair. Thoughts?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
THE replacement motor is hard to find. However, other manufacturers used the same motor or one that will work just as well with minor modifications. The Audio-Technica at-lp 60 motor will work in this machine, and is available if you're willing to wait for backorder. Part 704-F706-7303 Sonys original part number is 1-763-247-11 if you want to Google someone who may have it OEM part MMI-6TRWKO 176324711
@ArthurJS123 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier Thank you. Likely too late at this point. They made it sound like they were performing brain surgery, and that the original was the only suitable part. In the meantime, I secured a very similar Aiwa, for $4, which works great except for auto stop. Assuming the internal mechanism is the same as the Sony, I may try to open it up and fix that bar that you showed on the bottom. This repairer, who I once trusted, would likely say the machine needed “major work”.
@seckler179 ай бұрын
I have one of these, it worked for years all of a sudden it would just keep resetting as soon as the arm goes down to the vinyl. The record almost starts playing then the arm goes back to the home position. I'll check the end of play trip, it seems like its tripping the second the needle hits the record.
@florianrothmann8910 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the detailed Instruction - really helpful :) i got some Problems After a Transport Session with my ps-lx250h… is the Long straight „end of LP“ arm inside - 6:00 just laying on the „Triangle“ of the Sound Pickup Arm? And the „stop“ Button -> is it anywhere fixed to do something? It would be Great if you had these Infos for me… thx!
@glassvolta Жыл бұрын
Do you happen to know how to solve the issue of the arm dropping too fast ? Mine comes down super hard and makes quite a loud sound
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
You would need to disassemble the cueing mechanism, clean and re-damp with new cue fluid.
@Duxdude10 ай бұрын
I’m finding the same issue with mine. Not making a bad sound but it’s dropping a bit too fast/hard for my liking
@Amy-bk5rj Жыл бұрын
Having issue with my practically brand new sony LX 310 ( just over a year old)- play button wont push in and click into place and start playing record. Has power , able to connect to devices via bluetooth, Up/ down button works and so does stop - I've removed button cover - no obvious damage other than small silver wire attached to start button is sitting loosely - though is secured in black brackets, possibly jiggled free of its spot - if its meant to connect somewhere on white piece (I ve moved house in last year). If I attempt to click play button wire doesnt have ability to move white lever - which operates turntable - in your video its hard to see where start button wire sits and how its operates. Any videos showing correct position and action start button should cause beneath cover would be appreciated.
@_Ramen-Vac_ Жыл бұрын
a hard case of a turntable is what i got. a wooden plinth Pioneer that needs to dive into a chipper.
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
Ahh the good old record player, the majority of them do the job well enough :-D Not quite dead and gone yet.
@davidkornblatt851 Жыл бұрын
It’s a first gen Audio Techniqca ATLp60 in a different package
@Harlan-yw5bz8 ай бұрын
Hello again. The "mechanics" of my turntable do not seem to be working. The platter spins once it is plugged in. I was able to adjust it to the proper speed and LPs play fine manually moving the tonearm and setting it down and it lifts up at the correct point at the end but does not return. The start and stop buttons do not seem to work. The center white gear disc does not rotate fully. Is it supposed to? Advice?
@JordanPier8 ай бұрын
White cycling gear should make a complete rotation. If something is stopping it, there is a mis alignment with the guide pin underneath and the track it rides in. You can unscrew the gear and lift off, position the pin with your fingers to what you believe to be the right spot, then install the gear and rotate it counterclockwise through a complete rotation to check that its not binding. If not, see if the set will move the arm correctly. If so, great! - if not, and its not binding then further investigation and disassembly as to why is needed.
@CesarMontanez-wh7ou6 ай бұрын
Good night Jordan Pier, what would be the setting for the needle to sit soft on vinyl? My turntable has that flaw, the needle falls overwhelmingly on the vinyl, in free fall. damages the vinyls and of course the same needle.
@JordanPier6 ай бұрын
You must take the cueing mechanism apart and replace the silicone dampening fluid . 300,000 cst is what should be used.
@CesarMontanez-wh7ou5 ай бұрын
@@JordanPier: thank you very much
@GFMPH6 ай бұрын
I have this same table. New problem: When I play a record all is well. At the end of the record the tone arm returned to home. Frequently it moves back to the beginning of the record then returns back to the home position repeatedly. Is this possible that plastic trigger your showed in the video?
@JordanPier6 ай бұрын
If yours has a repeat button, follow the linkages and make sure nothing is binding or sticking
@JasonHalversonjaydog Жыл бұрын
whenever someone uses those speed diagrams, it must be my eyes cause they never seem to be standing still for me. they're all spinning always. maybe my eyes just don't focus on the strobing light effect?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
You have to use a lamp that flickers at the AC line. A fluorescent lamp or cheap led lamp usually works fine. An incandescent lamp has too much persistence to work
@sleavesleather Жыл бұрын
Great video; just didn’t cover my issue. I have one of these that works great other than the stop button not working as expected. When I press stop the arm lifts, returns to the holder and then starts again. Any idea on how to fix that?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
There is a mechanical flip-flop near the cycling mechanism that determines whether its a start or stop cycle. This may be stuck in the start cycle which is why it repeats.
@beardization Жыл бұрын
i have the same problem
@sleavesleather Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier good luck finding the “mechanical flip flop” - just putting up with the issue still as the response I got didn’t really offer much in the way of actual advice on how to fix the issue.
@sergioflores71693 ай бұрын
Well, in the video when he puts his finger on the big white gear, he is touching two flat plastic pieces that are sandwiched together. He explains that they need to move freely from each other. I believe that is the "flip flop" he is talking about. Old grease will cause too much friction. They need to flip flop freely.
@RC-74 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you still monitor this video. By the way, it is excellent! Two days ago I brought my PS-LX250h out of the garage and cleaned it up, and bought a new cartridge, exactly the one you say to use. I attached the RCA cables to my amp and it plays ok through it, but there is a lot of what sounds like static. Can you give me a clue as to what causes this? I can attach my PS-LX300USB and it plays with no static sound. Could it be the cabling or possibly something else? I appreciate your assistance.
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Could be bad cable, loose ground on cartridge body, improperly wired, dirty preamp switch under the platter, bad phono preamp. Cant know without seeing it
@RC-74 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier Thank you for the insanely fast answer!! I will check it out as best I can!
@RC-74 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I re-watched your video and lo and behold my internal light switch came on. When I first used this turntable I did not connect it to an integrated amp. Now I am. So guess what fixed it!?!? I flipped the eq/amp to off, and the static went away. Sometimes it is just basics. Thanks for your help. The speed seems a little off so I'm going to order one of the new belts you spoke of and see if that fixes that particular problem. If it doesn't, I'll follow your instructions and find a strobe disc and speed things up a tad bit. Thanks again for your video and your suggestions. Couldn't have done it without you!
@dado1904 Жыл бұрын
Dear Jordan, for which adjusting RET and SW are used? Video 20:14
@mitchard_nixon Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend's cat knocked my turntable off the shelf and now i can only get the motor to stop if i move the arm an inch beyond its resting point. I'm trying to adjust the SW screw but it won't reach from the resting point no matter how i adjust it. I've watched your whole video a couple times and can't figure out my next step. Do i need to disassemble the arm and realign it or something?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
You answered your own question
@mitchard_nixon Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier so after losing a little patience I just twisted it back that direction I thought it should go and it popped back into place. Probably not ideal since it probably risks rounding off whatever it's attached to in there. Anyway, thanks for the in depth video. Now I've gotta look up how to make a cat skin slipmat...
@ZwiebackandTreeTalk Жыл бұрын
I just inherited one from my grandmother. I was told the turntable has been working so I'd have to fix/have it fixed if I wanted it to work. Upon taking it apart, it seems all of the circuitry and mechanisms are in tact, but when I plug it in and press start, the motor doesn't turn at all even with some oil added. I also noticed that the two little metal arms attached to the start button area don't hook up to anything, and I don't know where they hook up to. On your video it seems to show them hooked into little holes in one of the tension arms. My tension arm doesn't have two little holes for them to fit in.... Could it have been a bad repair? It is the same model! Would you be able to help me out with this one?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
If you lift the arm over manually does the turntable motor spin? If so, examine the linkages to the start/stop buttons. May have been someone was messing with yours. if the motor does not turn, check switch continuity with the turntable unplugged from the wall. observe how the tonearm base linkages interface with the switch and the like.
@TechCrazy Жыл бұрын
What is that rubber grommet near the motor other than the two screws?
@gianfrancodisimone27565 ай бұрын
Hi Jordan, My turntable has a damaged belt, but I noticed that without the belt, as soon as I plug it in the 230V, the motor starts to turn and the start/stop switches don't work. Do you think there are other problems or is it enough to change the belt?
@JordanPier5 ай бұрын
It's probably stuck in a cycle. Rotate the platter until the motor stops
@gianfrancodisimone27565 ай бұрын
@@JordanPier thank but I have a another problem. the needle always remains on the same groove. How can I to fix the anti skating? Thanks in advance
@JordanPier5 ай бұрын
@@gianfrancodisimone2756 sounds like the arm has issues if it's sticking no matter where you place it. More serious troubleshooting is needed
@daeds.paints Жыл бұрын
Hello Jordan! How can I fix the tone arm not going back all the way back to rest? It comes up but goes back to mid record, everything is working a-okay. Thanks!
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Gotta take a look underneath and see whats impeding its return movement
@0Keef Жыл бұрын
I have one of these, worked great for the longest time. But now when I try to play anything, it starts and stops, starts then stop etc Anyway to fix this?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Check that trip pawl on cycling cam is not sticking or frozen
@larryseel900510 ай бұрын
Are those the two pieces at around 1:45? Mine move indepently but still the auto start/stop is not working properly. Everything worked fine but I let it sit for about a year. Now can only play using manual up/down control. Any ideas? Excellent video, btw. Thank you. @@JordanPier
@mrfredchew Жыл бұрын
I have the same turntable. The issue is that I only have music coming out from one speaker. I plugged it into another amplifier, and got the same problem. It played fine when I purchased it but one day it decided to drop a channel. Do you know what may be the cause of this problem? Thanks in advance.
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Check wiring to the RCA jacks under the platter. Check wiring at the cartridge. If both are good your cartridge may have failed.
@thepirategamerboy12 Жыл бұрын
One question. What's the difference between an ATN3600L and LX? Just Sony's name for the same stylus?
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure its a sony thing. The 3600 is a conical with aluminum cantilever. Max weight is 3g The 3600e is the same but an elliptical stylus. The 3600L is a conical stylus with carbon fiber cantilever with a max weight of 6g. This is why its used everywhere. It can take abuse too. Note that a Sony cannot do anything but the 3600L because of the 3.5g weight that is fixed. The 3600/e will just mash into the record
@myc05m3 Жыл бұрын
Hey, how can I solve this speed issue? I've tried to adjust it, but no matter how I can't adjust the motor speed with the holes, it doesn't mater where I rotate it
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Motor could ve defective
@zachifi7 ай бұрын
what if I cant get the 45rpm to adjust?
@JordanPier7 ай бұрын
Motor is defective
@Duxa_5 ай бұрын
Got an issue where playing start and placing the needle makes it just glide all the way across the center and stop. This started happening after not using for about a year. Any idea how to fix that?
@JordanPier5 ай бұрын
You need a new stylus. Atn-3600L
@Duxa_5 ай бұрын
@@JordanPier It does the same thing even with a new stylus. it like doesnt play the record, just glides from the edge towards the center, then returns and stops.
@JordanPier5 ай бұрын
@@Duxa_ glides on the record or above it?
@Duxa_5 ай бұрын
@@JordanPier Glides on the record to wards the center. I took off the stylus and yes it looks like that may be the issue. I guess I had 2 busted ones. Whats a good price for a new one these days?
@JordanPier5 ай бұрын
@@Duxa_ expect to spend about $40 for a good one. Lp gear and lp tunes have replacements that are decent.
@stephenboswell3085 Жыл бұрын
Jordan (or anyone else who might know) Hi. I have one of these and the speed selection has stopped operating. It's pretty much always at 45. I can occasionally get it to go at 33 by jiggling the switch, but when it does it then jumps back to 45 part way through playing the album. Is this (likely to be) a mechanical fault or an electronic one? Thanks
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Gotta open it up and look. Could be switch that needs cleaning. Could be linkage to switch failing.
@stephenboswell3085 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier thank you. I just wondered if it was a known problem.
@deathmarkcomicsincАй бұрын
I can’t get more than 2 rotations without the turntable throwing the old belt or the new belt.
@JordanPierАй бұрын
@@deathmarkcomicsinc gotta rotate the platter SLOW with the mat off and correct the belt path riding up on the pulley. Belt has to be an fry-25.0
@wayneg296 Жыл бұрын
👍👍😎✌️🤟
@josephsirois2353 Жыл бұрын
bon marche’
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
Yep, and surprisingly they keep on chugging along. Definitely not high fidelity.
@jugent2012 Жыл бұрын
I thought you said at one time Russell Industries was bad news.
@JordanPier Жыл бұрын
They were about 10 years ago. They started making precision molded belts around 2016 and have been my go to since.
@jugent2012 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanPier oh okay I must have misunderstood you sorry about that
@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez Жыл бұрын
At least the belt wasnt goop. I. Have a telefunken cs20 / sts1 on my bench tonight. PITA