How to choose a beginner catamaran

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The perfect catamaran for beginners?
Ultimate 1st cat?
The anatomy of a beginner catamaran
Rotomoulded
Dart 16 - 125kg
Topaz 14 - 110kg
Hobie 15 - 155kg
Hobie getaway - 177kg
Hobie Wave - 111kg
Hobie T1 - 120kg
RS Cat 14 - 125kg
Topcat K4X
Nacra 500
For the Aussies:
Maricat 14
Windrush 14
Features:
Skeg Hull
Loads of volume
No boom
Smaller less powerful sails
Simple design
Easy to sail!
What you should also look for when buying:
- trailer
- trolley
- cover
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[@JoyriderTV]

WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CATAMARAN? HOW DID IT WORK OUT FOR YOU?

[@Jebarus13]

Prindle 19. It is a giant, might not have been ideal as a first cat for a new sailor. I wanted something fast that could take many people on board. I got more than I asked for, but it is fun :)

[@JoyriderTV]

@@Jebarus13 Ha, yes certainly some good volume on there!

[@craiggibbons3268]

Hobie Wave for life.

[@nicko6710]

Hobie 14. At 60kg. I was way over powered.

[@alainlamothe6934]

1979 yellow Hobie 16. Learned the hard way with 3 rescues from Canadian Coast Guard.

[@woodsskiier68]

Learned on a Hobie 16. stayed with the Hobie 16. Still have a lot to learn about how to sail a Hobie 16. Easy boat to learn basics on and infinite room to improve. Has given me about 40 years of fun. Great boat for beginner to expert.

[@JoyriderTV]

That's a great summary of the 16. Thanks

[@tootbarkley7276]

*I always learn with you. Thanks Joseph.*

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks!±🤩

[@RL1911]

I'm learning on a Hobie 16. I've had great success with Joe's awesome help. Thanks Joe!

[@JoyriderTV]

Great to hear!

[@Konfliktloeser]

...not to forget the Dart15... I still have mine as a "spare- boat" to share it with friends that want to go out solo on a cat for the first time

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah for sure - perhaps i'll review this video in a year to add all of the boats that I missed!

[@robertosgood961]

Started with an '89 H14 two years ago. It had a broken mast and was in need of a lot of love. Watching your videos taught me how to inspect and adjust virtually every aspect of that boat. Sold it and bought an '85 H16. It also had seen many years of use and needed a complete rebuild to bring it back. Sailed it last year and have continued to work on it and make improvements for this year's sailing adventures. Can't say thanks enough for all of the work and information you have put into filming and editing so many videos!

[@JoyriderTV]

You're very welcome, It's always great to get more people into cat sailing.

[@jonathanalea]

Looking to get my first boat and first cat to learn how to sail… great stuff Joseph!

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks, great stuff, good luck!

[@cristosanto815]

I just bought a Hobie cat 16. I only had 6 lessons of sailing plus your channel. This year I will learning on a lake and next straight in the Mediterranean sea. Thanks! I found your video very helpful and also the reason I bought a 16.

[@JoyriderTV]

Great stuff! You're going to love it. Congratulations on becoming a cat sailor!

[@joaquins90]

I've recently scored a wildcat as my first cat and it's been great, proper beens given on the 3rd session. 2h of previous experience with cats on some holidays, and a lot of joyrider tv which proven seriously helpful! Very helpful the chute ring answer in the live Q&A. Some sanding, then teflon spray and it's finally doing great!!

[@JoyriderTV]

That goes to show that anything will work as long as you don't go for too much wind straight off.

[@ryangusmeroli331]

For the aussies would also recommend the nacra 4.5 slightly smaller than the nacra 5.0. Can run no jib for the first few sails, does make tacking a bit harder though. Plenty of hull volume for 3-4 people. Good fun with 2 in 10-15 knots. Easy to single hand once you know what you’re doing.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for that - I never saw a 4.5

[@mmannfol]

Great advice for learning, if you have a selection of beginner boats to start out on. I bought my Hobie 14 not knowing how to sail at all and learned on it. I have since upgraded to a Hobie 16 and feel confident and proficient. I definitely wish I learned on the 16 though….. HULL VOLUME is definitely worth a consideration!

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, it's the low volume of the 14 that makes it so difficult.

[@stephanvanrooijen2971]

Started on a dart 18. Easy to sail, simple and fast also single handed with Just the main. Then a Nacra Inter 17 because of the spi. Bit nervous boot wih a long small sail. Love my hobie fx one! Also sail a dart 15 single handed if I want to be in control under all circumstances. Easy to handle on the beach because it is light. Even thinking going back to Dart 18. Like your channel ! Keep on going...

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks! I also started on the Dart 18, such a great boat and possibly still the best for true solo sailing + 2 up

[@kevinburger590]

I learned cat sailing on a HC16, but since we were too light we switched to the HC14 Turbo. Now I'm back on a HC16 and in a few years i'll maybe switch to a Wildcat or a Nacra 17. As kid the Dragoon was also a lot of fun. So easy to handle and to upright after capsizing.

[@JoyriderTV]

Great stuff! The 16 is good for learning on as it doesn't accept bad technique - good for the future of your cat sailing.

[@kremcap]

Going through the list of criteria it sounded like the exact opposite of a Hobie 16 and I agree that it is not the best beginner boat. Yet the H16 was my first boat and I was happy with it. So if you are a beginner and considering to get one cause it's cheap and accessible, don't get discouraged. Better a H16 than no boat. Great video though to understand what makes a good beginner boat.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah for sure, Like I said to Kevin: The 16 is good for learning on as it doesn't accept bad technique - good for the future of your cat sailing.

[@jtmchannel7640]

Hobie Wave is by far the best beginner friendly in my opinion. I learned on them and now I teach other people on them too. My recent first catamaran buy is a Hobie 14, and it is certainly not beginner friendly despite being a solo boat. I love the 14 though, once you figure out how to sail it, it’s great.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, the Wave is ceratinly the most user friendly and simple. The 14 is possibly at the other end of the scale!

[@hunteyvonne]

@@JoyriderTV Thank you, your channel is amazing! Is the Hobie Bravo worth considering?

[@hunteyvonne]

@@JoyriderTV This would be for total noobs learning to sail in a bay on Lake Simcoe. Our goal is to not capsize.

[@JoyriderTV]

@@hunteyvonne that's a good goal although you can't rule it out happening at some point unless you stick to low winds.

[@dumbcat]

wow. you posted a video about the subject within 24hrs of someone suggesting it. here is another possible topic of interest for beginners... why chose a beachcat over a dinghy sailboat?

[@JoyriderTV]

That's a good topic. Mono vs Cat - could be a good video. Thanks

[@joslouisnb2]

I sail both frequently depending on who I'm going out with and they're experience, both are lots of fun but they definitely each have they're positives and negatives.

[@yarryrob]

Minicat Guppy was my first. Big advantage not having to use a trailer, set up in 15-20 mins. Nowhere near as good as any of your recommendations but a good little boat to learn the basics. Next boat for me will be a Hobie Wave or, maybe, a Seawind 24.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for sharing, I'd love to try a Minicat at some point having never sailed an inflatable.

[@pascalblotiau]

I have a dart 16 it’s a great boat but here in New York it’s hard to find parts like sails and rudder parts It seems that the plastic used is different from hobie plastic Great videos Thank you

[@JoyriderTV]

Interesting that they're different. I dare say that the parts would need to come from Europe.

[@iamdaveyc]

First cat was a Topaz 14CX (as on Show as your cat episode 8). Now have a Dart/Sprint 15 (yet to send an updated SUYC video) 😁 Topaz was a plastic, bomb proof design - perfect for learning on

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah, very nice not to have to worry about maintenance so much when in the early stages. The Dart 15 is a little ripper!

[@Lew114]

I'm leaning towards a Hobie 16. I have a little bit of experience and I'll be sailing on an inland lake in light winds. If I get killed I won't post a follow up.

[@JoyriderTV]

As long as you don’t try to give it too much beans in too much wind too soon you should be fine with a 16

[@fauxcatpaw]

Great video as always! Is there a difference in how the trampoline in rigged? Like the stitching in the fore or aft? My Hobie 14 has it in the aft but my buddy's Hobie 16 was flipped 180 degrees.

[@JoyriderTV]

On the Hobie 15 the lacing strip is at the front. I think it's a good design - with other boats doing it that way would lead to the problem of your pockets being at the back.

[@nicko6710]

In Australia the Maricat is a perfect entry cat, performance wise doesn't give much way to the Hobie but far easier to control.

[@JoyriderTV]

Much cheaper as well I would think

[@sgravina]

I'm a beginner. I bought myself an XCat. It's small, only 14 foot mast. You can put it on top of your car and assemble it at the water. It is almost impossible to capsize. Its really fast. But doesn't hold much, with more than one person it slows down a lot.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for that, I never heard of the Cat, I'll check it out.

[@ouralbox]

Hi. You are very happy. I am just choosing my first cat. My choice is xcat. Which one would you choose now after years of experience?

[@paulypaul111]

Oooppps. My first cat is a Tornado.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes!!! I would have done the same if I could have. Mine was a Dart 18

[@dumbcat]

for various reasons i don't think i will be able to get on the water in my area unless i buy an inflatable beachcat or dinghy sailboat. would be interested in any thoughts you have on these. might be a good video topic

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes for sure - I've been trying to get hold of a @MiniCat - the world's favorite portable sailboat , out here for a while now.

[@garyvoigt5090]

Hello. Great video. I was looking gor your email but cannot find it. Looking at a few hobie 16 Im going to buy and wanted your opinion if I could send you some pics. All I have sailed is a AMF sunfish and always wanted a hobie. I'm 67 now and just to sail around our q20 acre lk. On light to moderate winds. I did watch your vid. On buying a used hobie. Thanks, Gary

[@JoyriderTV]

I'll take a look [e-mail]

[@whynot1010]

I started with an Tornado, and still have him

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah!!!!

[@sylviedage1]

I just bought a Hobie Cat 14. It has a boom. Is it possible to buy a sail with no boom and put it on my HC14? Any suggestion? Thanks

[@JoyriderTV]

We sometimes use a Hobie 16 easy Junior sail on our 14 that is boom-less works well especially in a strong wind. For boom-less the clew must be further towards the mast than the back beam.

[@clivewright1333]

What about a Joy Ride on a 15 or Pacific?

[@JoyriderTV]

That would be a great way to see what is possible. I'll get amongst it!

[@manuelitowhiskey9560]

What Do you think about inflatable cats?

[@JoyriderTV]

I've never had the opportunity to try one. I think that the MINICAT range look great and really solve any storage or transport issues.

[@valley3621]

Just bought a 1978 Hobie 16". She is a delaminated wreck. Hope to bring her back from the dead. She is a lot of boat and a little intimidating.

[@JoyriderTV]

Good luck with the revival! As long as you start in low winds you should be good.

[@nickf5862]

Sounds like my 1st cat a hobie 18 is the opposite of all of these.

[@mikebrown1036]

I'll join you in getting it all wrong. 1st cat's a Tornado (but not 1st boat)

[@JoyriderTV]

These are of course just guidelines. Starting with a Tornado means you'll never have to change your boat!

[@mikebrown1036]

@@JoyriderTV It's a great boat. 30+ years of monohulls & I've finally seen the light 😁 Keep up the great work Joe

[@agustinyoga]

Aly G, weaked

[@JoyriderTV]

aye