Rose Is The Villian In Titanic

[@joshuafranklin7488]

Titanic, a movie about a elderly woman in her final days that reminisces, not about her family, but about a guy she only known for a day or two and she lets him hit it.

[@lowwoutchea]

She had the hottest of hot girl summers then made it her whole personality 🤣🤣🤣

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

Doesn't reflect good on Jack either. What kind of man sleeps with an engaged woman after knowing her for 2 days. 2 days!! 2 frigging days

[@AcaraDain]

@@Brenda-ny1gwHe couldn’t sleep with her if she didn’t let him. She’s the one that made the promise, not him.

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

@@AcaraDain He could've been an honest man and say no. She was an engaged woman. They both behaved dishonestly, but I think most of the fault lies with Jack

[@AcaraDain]

@@Brenda-ny1gw That’s absurd. Jack didn’t have a promise to uphold. Rose was the one in a committed relationship, not Jack. Your morals are twisted and wrong.

[@TheDashingRogue]

Rose is a textbook example of a female protagonist with borderline personality disorder.

[@TheNotverysocial]

In other words, extreme black and white. The whole portrayal of Jack and Cal as pure evil and good is almost certainly a fabrication of hers, as sure as this film is a work of fiction with its A plot.

[@martincurran6432]

How? She didn't love a man who she was being forced into marrying (Cal). She fell in love with her soulmate Jack. It's that simple. This is how it is in movies. It's not real life lol

[@TheNotverysocial]

Of course.. But there is no denying the main body of this movie's plot stretched the truth about as much as Cameron stretched it with the facts. No matter which way you slice it, Rose is not ultimately a good person, given she clearly thinks the ocean is a dumping ground, and will cast things to its floor where no one will ever find them, and she was under circumstances no one would see or catch her in the act. No evidence. This is highly disrespectful. But she can't be busted for them, even if she hadn't passed away shortly afterwards. @@martincurran6432

[@Herkario]

@@martincurran6432 the mother was the real villain, cal had real feels for Rose but she doesn´t, but the mother force rose to be with him because of the money, she was broke.

[@dawnwinter-wi4ps]

She's not bipolar she just didn't want to marry a creep twice her age. And then she saves jack from drowning because of him. Cal isn't a good guy he framed a man and he didn't care that a whole class of people would die. Good riddance incels.

[@arnavthegreat4483]

If you take a deep note You will find that cal never cheated on rose He always tried to get her attention He bought an expensive ring for her He was basically a simp who had enough of her bs

[@sweetplaysclaw7084]

I mean if you’re engaged with someone you’re gonna do all those things obviously

[@justinp5661]

The neclace could have paid for St. Jude cancer treatments. It could have fed the poor for decades

[@jessicaholting2362]

I agree. This is the part of the movie I don’t understand. You just don’t throw away money!!!

[@bigol9223]

​@@jessicaholting2362 it all makes sense with the character being so self centered and ditzy.

[@UncleJamie]

Rose: "I'll never let you go!" Also Rose: *Let's go*

[@UncleJamie]

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[@Everyonesbuddy829]

You guys just don't understand Rose's promise to Jack. He never said to Rose that " Rose don't find another man in case I die in this frozen ocean. " no, what he said is " Rose I know that you're gonna die but not here you're gonna die an old woman warm in her bed your gonna have kids lots of kids and to the part when he said you will never let go he ment of her life she must never commit or attempt to commit suicide ever again. Not let go of Jack's corpse.

[@NoriMori1992]

For the love of… She meant she won't let go of him emotionally, as in she's not going to forget about him; and she won't let go of her attachment to life. (Remember earlier in the movie at one point she was thinking about killing herself.)

[@anniebananie7887]

I about peed my pants when you said she's the reason they hit the iceberg! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@winpupu]

Part of the reason..... That's what I heard

[@brandenburg2388]

On closer analysis, I believe that Rose suffered from Narcissistic Personality Disorder..............

[@TheByteknight]

Who also has 8 pictures of themselves on their dresser, likely taken by her husband who is forgotten in the afterworld...

[@abcdeshole]

It’s absolutely nutty of her to pack a bunch of framed pictures and take them with her when she travels. Who the fuck does that?

[@davidradich9342]

My fantasy alternative ending would have been to see Bill Paxton see her throw the diamond overboard, freak out and throw her ass overboard in a fit of rage!

[@LexLucario7922]

There is an alternative ending that was cut because it was cheesy. Bill Paxton and Rose's granddaughter see Rose on the rail and think she's going to jump, so they run and see she's got the diamond. "Don't come any closer. I'll drop it." The rest of the salvage crew join them and they all see this, Bill Paxton wants to hold it, she lets him. After he's done holding the diamond, she tosses it overboard much to the dismay of the rest of the crew there. The bearded guy goes "That really sucks lady!" Bill Paxton is laughing, meanwhile the bearded guy is pissed that the thing they had spent so much money to find was just tossed into the ocean.

[@elisabethhutchinson2987]

honestly cal was overbearing but he flipped a table cause he found out she was spending time with another man

[@soioioioioioio34]

Someone should flip you over a table

[@ruturajshiralkar5566]

Judging by his behaviour, I highly doubt that it was the First Table that Cal ever flipped.

[@arnavthegreat4483]

​@@ruturajshiralkar5566it wasn't the first time rose smashed another dude lol

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

​@@arnavthegreat4483atta guurl!

[@Piromysl359]

And that makes him the bad guy how exactly?

[@thub7637]

She was infatuated with jack. If he would have lived, that life he lived that she thought was so great would have gotten old real fast.

[@NoriMori1992]

You don't know that. Sure she doesn't know it would have been good, but by the exact same token you don't know it would have gotten old.

[@thub7637]

The only thing she ever knew was first class living. There were a few times in the movie that she gave a look when he did things or some of the people she was around. At that time she was a teen that was not truly understanding what would happen if her and her mother did not have someone to take care of them. That’s what her mother was trying to say. Was it fair that she was in that position? No but at that time there was not choice. It would seem maybe a novelty to live like he did for a short time, but not knowing where you would sleep, what you would eat would be very hard for her having had everything handed to her.

[@erickeegan5999]

@@NoriMori1992I’m gonna ignore your comment

[@DavidDavid-yp3ln]

Wow. Everything you said about Rose is factual.😂 And people think this character is a saint.

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

She is not a saint. But a woman I can respect

[@gibbethoskins8621]

​@@Brenda-ny1gw She's a make believe character lol

[@c292r89dvbh]

I first watched Titanic as a child, and I never liked Rose. I hated that she dropped the diamond necklace into the ocean. As I got older, I realised that she spent the entire film narcissistically recounting her life to a group of people that she knew were searching for the diamond, all the while she had it herself! She made her mother out to be the villain, whilst knowing that their future depended on her marriage to Cal and that they only had "a legacy of bad debts hidden by a good name". I'm glad you mentioned that Jack could have survived if Rose had not jumped back onto the ship. She gave up a coveted seat on a lifeboat and caused Jack's death, when he could have found the door by himself and stayed afloat. Why people waste their time speculating about 2 people using the door is beyond me. Even in death, her selfishness continued. Rose had a husband, to whom she was presumably married for several decades. She had at least one child and grandchild. Why were they nowhere to be seen in her Heaven? She romanticised her 3-day relationship with Jack to such a degree that she disregarded all others. I love the 'Rose is a sociopath' theory the best. “Poor little rich girl, what does she know about misery?” is a great question.

[@frosinicapandispan5534]

I get where everyone is coming from, but I believe Jack was her soulmate and her husband was a lesser love. You can just meet someone and feel like you've known them forever, it's happened to me and it isn't infatuation, it's a rare connection.

[@Dilley_G45]

​@@frosinicapandispan5534then she shouldn't have married and stayed single after. Her behavior to her husband and father of her kid(s) is humiliating

[@bigol9223]

​@@frosinicapandispan5534 "soulmate" lol i bet you check the stars to know what your personality will be today.

[@alejandrosanchez3465]

For us to understand how selfish she is... just remember she only had picture of herself moments before dying

[@jerem5103]

"She took up with her fat ass" lmao😂

[@crazycatladyann390]

😂

[@knox7945]

I find it funny that she is partially responsible for the Titanic to sink

[@pacoramon9468]

Rose literally killed 2 people with her selfishness.

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

If she really was the reason they hit the iceberg (in the movie) then she actually killed over 1500 😃

[@Joseph-xt3el]

Yes, ive been saying this for years. Cal is a victim from the start. Then she brags about his suicide at the end.

[@Mike-im5bo]

My ending of Titanic; Rose and Jack survive and stay together for a while. One night too many sleeping under bridges in the rain and cold, Rose kicks Jack to the curb and she seeks out Cal. Opps! Too late, Cal has married someone else. Rose lives in luxury as Cal's mistress. Cal eventually gets tired of Rose's shitty attitude and kicks her to the curb. Living in poverty one day Rose sees that Jack has become a famous artist covering the World War in Europe. Rose, wishing to re-connect with Jack now that he is famous, joins the Red Cross and goes to Europe. She arrives in France the day after Jack gets killed at the front.

[@TheJacrespo]

much better movie than the utterly nonsense garbage made by J Cameron.

[@Rotionu]

I have a suggestion about the end of the story of yours. Rose appears as a nurse, Jack who meanwhile became to his senses about love and so on tells her to f...k off, she goes away, wanders into a battlefield and meets wounded German corporal, called Adolf Schicklgruber, they have an affair and as a result Rose gives birth to a baby.

[@btsarmyfan5392]

​@@TheJacrespo if Rose would have married Jack then he would have sold her as a concubine in the ottoman harem for money 💰

[@soioioioioioio34]

She later becomes a street walker and gets aids and dies on skid row 😂

[@Mike-im5bo]

@@Rotionu BRAVO!

[@crazycatladyann390]

If this was real and it was me back in that time I would have gladly stayed with Cal.

[@jessicaholting2362]

Me too.

[@kellysnyder1405]

I've always felt that too! 😊

[@ashutoshyadav7385]

@@kellysnyder1405 any sane women in this whole world would have chosen Cal

[@martincurran6432]

@@ashutoshyadav7385 who'd want to marry a man with no empathy. The scumbag even threw someone off a mostly empty lifeboat.

[@NoriMori1992]

You all would have gladly stayed with someone who hits you and verbally abuses you? Y'all need therapy, wow.

[@jessicaholting2362]

Rose didn’t love Cal. Her family was forcing her to marry him. That’s the problem. She was not choosing to be with him. Now me personally if I were in her position I would marry Cal. He’s a good looking guy and he’s financially stable. Also I could love him. There is nothing wrong with having both love and money. You actually have more time to enjoy love when you’re not worried about money. I wouldn’t choose poverty. Also Cal was a good guy until Rose cheated on him and then he snapped and turned bad. But I think if Rose loved him he would have stayed good.

[@raimeyewens7518]

Cal seemed to honestly love and adore her. He was practically begging for her affection when he gave her the necklace. She comes off as a bored little rich girl when you look at it from a different perspective. If she wasn’t so bitter towards her mother she probably could have loved Cal. The only reason he got upset with her was when he found out she was off flirting with Jack. Before that he was nothing but doting on her. And Jack looks like a boy compared to Cal.

[@BK-is5fj]

The fact Cal reacted the way he did shows what kind of person he is, he’s abusive and controlling. Rose shouldn’t have to be with him if she doesn’t want to, she was being forced. His violent outbursts are on him, it’s his fault he acted that way, not hers. He is responsible for his own actions. If he really loved her he never would’ve slapped her, he never would’ve done any of the things he did. This is a misogynistic mindset many people have. “If only she behaved better he wouldn’t be doing this” “It’s her fault he hit her” Its textbook victim blaming gaslighting. The belief that the victim is responsible for the abusers actions. Honestly I wouldn’t even call it what Rose did cheating when it was a forced engagement. Women had little say back then, she was basically being sold to Cal, she had no say in the matter. Cal wanted control of her, he wanted her to be his little possession, you don’t treat people you love that way, you want them to be happy. Cal would’ve been abusive and controlling even if she stayed with him, that’s the kind of person he is. You guys are clearly young. Please change the way you think, it’s harmful and dangerous.

[@LordOfThePancakes]

Cal let rose off easy. Back in the old days cheating on your husband warranted a death sentence.

[@BK-is5fj]

@@LordOfThePancakes And that makes him a saint? He’s still a scumbag and he tried to kill them.

[@crazycatladyann390]

They weren't married they were just engaged

[@Kaylor_Ryan]

Jack was a clever man and im sure he would it find the way out and survive. So yes, she killed him 😂

[@jamesonfitsimons5988]

Rose sank the ship she distracted the lookout, all the history u need

[@jamesonfitsimons5988]

She also killed the old couple the dude could’ve had her seat

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

The lookout's fault for not doing his job properly. But if you blame Rose, then you'd have to blame Jack too.

[@Herkario]

the mother was the real villain, cal had real feels for Rose but and she doesn´t, but the mother force rose to be with him because of the money, she was broke.

[@losrevolucionarios8858]

Securing your daughters future is a sign of a good mother.

[@Herkario]

@@losrevolucionarios8858 she was securing his own ass.

[@losrevolucionarios8858]

"his" 😂@@Herkario

[@Herkario]

@@losrevolucionarios8858 soy argentino amigo, no me rompas las bolas.

[@winpupu]

Don't be stupid I would agree if cal were a fat old man

[@Dunybrook]

She is a terrible person. That diamond could have gone to charity or something.

[@btsarmyfan5392]

Neha dhupia be like: It's her choice 😂😂😂

[@seraphthegatekeeper]

You’re not wrong.

[@sfm242]

Cal ended up suiciding because of the market crash, but Rose could’ve simply given cal back his property, the diamond, amd that could’ve insulated him against the market collapse.

[@bigol9223]

Were jewels recession proof?

[@TheJacrespo]

Irrational behavior is observed in some human young females, bored with wealth, who are tempted by the exciting dark side of unsophisticated rascals lacking style, wealth, and elegance. This girl, Rose, had she married the homeless rascal Jack, would have regretted it all her life. At least, with the rascal's death, he was idealized in her senile mind remembering those idealized times where rascals are good guys and the good guy is evil.

[@Firemarioflower]

Caledon a good guy? You can take this too far

[@martincurran6432]

Cal was evil. Rose didn't care about wealth. She cared more about a person's heart and morals.

[@dawnwinter-wi4ps]

He literally joked about hundreds of people dying just because they weren't rich.

[@NoriMori1992]

I dare you to explain how a physically and verbally abusive man is the good guy.

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

Not only young females. Young males too, and much more!

[@DKNY88fan]

This is flawless logic.

[@veldinjoeable]

Really enjoyed your video. Have a been a fanatic of the film my entire life. Some people might consider the story of jack and rose to be far-fetched. I always found it very believable. Love can occur in the oddest, and most unlikely circumstances. Love is also anti-rational in almost every way and people can murder over it. It’s a story of the power of love and memory, no matter how short.

[@gibbethoskins8621]

😂😂😂 This vid is highly underrated

[@TheJacrespo]

And just for the record, in human female ethology: In the end, what happens is that everyone who crosses paths with the destructive, neurotic Rose ends up ruined, dead, or betrayed. It is a good lesson for anyone who becomes infatuated with a bold, young, and unpredictable woman who behaves like a worshipped goddess. Do not worship any woman, or you will end up the same way.

[@nellgwenn]

And all those photographs on her dresser at the end of the movie only have her in them. Who is taking the picture? You would think she had a wedding picture. I agree with you that Rose was a villain. But she was not the reason the Titanic sank. Actually in reality Jack and Rose would have already been suffering with hypothermia from wading through all that cold water while on the ship. Both Jack and Rose would have been in a weakened state. When you know that it brings extra hatred for Rose for not staying in the lifeboat. I could go on about the flaws at the end of the movie story-wise. But that's not the topic right now.

[@martincurran6432]

How was she a villain by leaving a man she did not love, who she was forced into marriage with?

[@UncleJamie]

Just remembered. Zizek talks about this in one of the _Pervert's Guide to_ movies. You might enjoy it maybe I dunno.

[@UncleJamie]

It's Pervert's Guide to Ideology, timestamp 1:02:00. I'll post a link to a KZbin version if I can find one without annoying copytisms...

[@btsarmyfan5392]

Today after watching this movie, my mom said that Rose was evil herself only. Ruth wanted wellness of her daughter but she considered her only as her enemy. Cal was trying to save from Jack because he knew the nature of these vagabond people who used rich girls only for money. My mom also said that if Rose would have married Jack in reality, then he would have sold her as a concubine in the harem or kothha in India or any muslim country. There are many real life examples like this, where girls like Rose have suffered by being with boys like Jack. In Indian serial, tmkoc also Bhide said that why today's girls prefer useless and vagabond boys over educated and well- earning boys. They consider their parents as their enemy only but they forget that they always think welfare of their children more than themselves only. My mom said that if Rose would have struggled due to homelessness or hunger or got sold in any kothha or harem, then she would've have realized that if she would have obeyed her mother and Cal , then she wouldn't have to cry or be trapped for rest of the life.

[@ashutoshyadav7385]

She said she feels trapped, but she doesn't even know what real trapped feel like,

[@btsarmyfan5392]

@@ashutoshyadav7385 right. I think that my mom and teacher are right on Rose. Do you think so?

[@ashutoshyadav7385]

@@btsarmyfan5392 Rose is an extremely spoiled and narrasistic person who is also very dumb

[@winpupu]

U are correct

[@abcdeshole]

No one ever mentions the fact that Rose neglects to give Trudy a heads up that the ship is sinking, just leaving her to die waiting for Ruth to come back for her cup of tea. And 84 years later, Trudy is faithfully wearing her domestic servant’s uniform in Rose’s heaven, ready to be enslaved for eternity to the spoilt daughter of the mistress who got her killed.

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

Trudy was sent to make tea wayy before Rose found the truth. And with Jack imprisoned would she have the time?

[@tkdmike9345]

Nothing but truth

[@LexLucario7922]

Rose is not only fine that her mother thinks she's dead, she prefers it. In the original script but this was never filmed, Cal actually found rose on the Carpathia. Cal says he and her mother had been looking everywhere for her, but Rose the selfish person that she is, blackmails Cal for his actions during the sinking (when he lost it and chased them with Lovejoy's gun when seeing his fiance jump back on the Titanic to be with a homeless man.) telling him to leave her alone. "What do I tell your mother?" "Tell her I died with the Titanic." She straight up abandons her mother. Maybe not the exact quotes but this is pretty much how this went down. You can look at the script yourself online.

[@justinp5661]

You spoke to me brother.

[@tortinelli]

She cheated on her fiancé, ditched her mom, got nailed out by homeless man on a random car, stole the diamond and the coat, and wasted the search crew's time instead of showing them the diamond necklace at the very beginning, poor guy who spended years of his life searching a gem Rose had all the time with her And what its worse, her most precious memories was two days with the homeless guy who drilled her on a fuck*ng model T instead of memories of her family or her husband who actually rised her children after the titanic incident. And thats a movie an entire generation watched and thought its the perfect love story aside Romeo and Juliet. Man, Titanic is a fucking BS on Rose's character development, its like she just came out of a NTR manga.

[@antonionalesnik4706]

This kinda blew my mind 😮

[@martincurran6432]

I'm pretty sure he slapped her before Rose cheated. Secondly Rose's mother was the villian. She's the one forcing Rose into a marriage, with a cruel man she doesn't love

[@inquizabletwinno]

Noooo he did slap her after she cheated he indeed threw the table over when lovejoy told him rose was in third class with Jack dancing

[@martincurran6432]

@@inquizabletwinno she hadn't kissed Jack or done anything at all with him before that slap. If what you're saying is true, what scene was it where they cheated before the slap? Hal was trying to control her.

[@inquizabletwinno]

@@martincurran6432 the Renault car scene after love joy chased just a few minutes after Jack drew rose picture and yes at the end of the day cal was in the wrong so was her mother Ruth

[@FleetAdmiral833]

​@@martincurran6432so dancing with other men behind your fiance's back is ok??? Its not controlling to call that poor behaviour. If cal had done it we would be calling him every evil name under the sun

[@martincurran6432]

@@FleetAdmiral833 if cal had done it, I wouldn't of had a problem with it. He was a person with no empathy though. The scumbag even threw someone off a mostly empty lifeboat and couldn't care less about all of the fact the poorer side

[@pinkmandymoo]

She let her mum experience poverty when her mum was trying to set her up to not be poor

[@JosephVice]

Also she never explained her mom's outcome cuz it would have made her look bad. Mom either became poor and abandoned. Or Cal took care of her.... Pick 1

[@skylarsartnphotography3450]

Roses mom was not exactly likeable character. In fact, the only characters in the movie that acted like people were the actual ones from the real Titantic.....like Mr. Andrew's, the ship designer, the captain, and not to mention those people who had died, like the older couple who went to their bedroom to await the sinking, the band members, the man that stated he was dressed in his best and ready. The poor man who told his crying children to hold onto mommy's hand, Molly Brown, etc....those people truly made the movie over the fictional ones

[@martincurran6432]

So she was supposed to sacrifice her happiness for the rest of her life? Rose's mother was the villain

[@tortinelli]

​@@martincurran6432 bruh Familiarity One of the reasons why proximity matters to attraction is that it breeds familiarity; people are more attracted to that which is familiar. Just being around someone or being repeatedly exposed to them increases the likelihood that we will be attracted to them. We also tend to feel safe with familiar people, as it is likely we know what to expect from them. Dr. Robert Zajonc (1968) labeled this phenomenon the mere-exposure effect. More specifically, he argued that the more often we are exposed to a stimulus (e.g., sound, person) the more likely we are to view that stimulus positively. Moreland and Beach (1992) demonstrated this by exposing a college class to four women (similar in appearance and age) who attended different numbers of classes, revealing that the more classes a woman attended, the more familiar, similar, and attractive she was considered by the other students By basic psychology, if Rose Married Cal, she would love her by matter of time.

[@deez583]

She is more Evil than Thanos and Darth vador , she sp evil that we didint knew she was evil

[@pablito4762]

Even more evil than Sauron 😂

[@nicoletravis8702]

Cal deserves better than a disrespectful and unfaithful woman like Rose! He's a wealthy and successful businessman, and he clearly adores her and wants to give her a luxurious life. But does she appreciate him? No! She's too busy drooling over some low-life artist she just met! 🙄 Cal Hockley, sweetie, you deserve better than that!

[@theevildrjelly4626]

They would of been no world hunger selling the necklace

[@M33t3y]

When you muh mentioned that she goes back to the Titanic when she dies...too emotional bro, why making water cone out of my face man😂

[@martincurran6432]

Is this video for real? Rose didn't want to marry Cal. It was her family wanting her to marry into riches. Its not like she chose to. Jack and Rose fell in love. Its that simple. The marriage with Cal was a sham and so what if he gave her jewelry and speant so much money. Rose did not care about riches but what was in a man's heart. Cal was the guy who didn't care about all the people who died. He even threw a man off a lifeboat

[@strongback6550]

You have enough spine to attempt suicide, but not enough to return the diamond to your suitor and say: "Yea, sorry I am not gonna go through with this." The man literally wasted his fortunes which could have gotten him through the great depression for a gift on that vapid woman just so she could cheat on him and throw that gift to the sea.

[@davidradich9342]

Thank God I am not the only guy who noticed this back in 97!

[@melanieb2132]

I was always bothered she dropped the "heart of the ocean".. it wasn't poetic at all. like, how many slaves died mining that thing out of the earth? . what artist made that? Who bought it.. Jack? No.. that piece of jewelry really didn't belong to her... not really, anyway. It was too significant to the time period. And the reason it was given to her (cals love and affection) she threw away. Not cool, rose. Not cool

[@JosephVice]

It belongs in a museum

[@melanieb2132]

@@JosephVice Indiana Jones morality. He would have fought her for that

[@Dani..663]

I can’t tell if your just trolling 😂 but if I was being forced to marry a complete abusive bore I’d do the same as she did tbh

[@psp785]

He only lashed out once after she cheated in fact all she got was the one gentlemen slap after she slept with Jack and had the nude picture

[@Dani..663]

@@psp785 gentleman slap 🤣

[@Piromysl359]

He wasn't abusive. And no, being angry and finding out your partner is cheating is not abusive.

[@winpupu]

U are probably 16 years old, I remember a beautiful girl that married this poor guy she was forced to work her ass off even when she was 8 months pregnant she dive a 800 dollar car believe me money is more important than love, she was beautiful is still beautiful she could easily got married a wealthy man so little one think twice

[@pablito4762]

He wasnt that abusive. Women hit harder when finding out their Boyfriend/Husband cheat but i guess thats ok because women are allowed to do it.

[@Tyln93]

Stupid Rose!!! He caused Jack's death!!! And threw million dollar necklace into sea!!! With that money She could help a lot of peoples in need!!! This diamond is based on real life Hope Diamond!!! Hope Diamond = 350 Million Dollar!!! 350.000.000 💲💲💲💲💲

[@curtislamarh]

I literally never paid attention to that one caveat. yes Rose is responsible for a lot of things but when you pointed out this detail regarding the whole entire ship sinking is actually her fault because of her shenanigans. there are so many fan theories but there are three that makes the most sense that Jack was killed because of her, other people died because she was Saved by Jack. if he'd let her jump over into the cold water to her demise everyone on board would have survived and made it to New York Safely lol

[@TheNotverysocial]

Really, this has more to do with the way the movie portrays the crew as incompetent and evil, like Fleet being a slacker, which he wasn't. If it wasn't her, Fleet's wandering eye would get caught on something else. But that isn't how he was.

[@jamesonfitsimons5988]

Jack cannot be blamed whatsoever that’s just a homeless transient making his next play, boy was a top G would’ve made it big time in the USA

[@mayhair]

basically the same points that were said on the rewatchables (kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKeQgKlseN2hZrM). the only major difference is that you do not believe Cal is bad from the start, he was just majorly pissed by Rose.

[@nicoletravis8702]

Ugh, don't even get me started on that part! It's so aggravating! Not only did she cheat on her wealthy and caring fiance with some random lower-class guy she just met, but she even had the nerve to throw away the incredibly expensive diamond necklace he gifted her! 🚮💔 And then she had the audacity to say "I want you to draw me like one of your French girls" to Jack, right in front of Cal! 😡 How disrespectful can she be??

[@TheRoguePrince0]

The same goes for peter and mj from spider man 2. Because of them an innocent man was humiliated at his own wedding. And spider man fans have the nerve to hate on paul, from the latest Amazing Spider-Man comic when spider man 2 peter, literally did the same thing as paul.

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

Notebook. It was actually a popular thing in the late 90s and early 2000s to make girl leave her attractive rich fiancee for broke guy.

[@Pascale5625]

Poor narc Cal. HILARIOUS! She's not perfect tho, I agree.

[@user-bu3gp3us8q]

She was lowley playing and fucking with Jack's life because he was accused for stealing the necklace that caldeon goons put their and when jack tells her to defend him rose doesn't trust him a person she slept with and let paint her naked but was so quick defend him for saving her when they accused of him bothering her when she barley earlier in the film when she wanted to kill herself jack almost died and she comes back and says she no but not to say to anything before he got got locked up and beating up by spicer 😅

[@evangelistbricescott7182]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, the whole video is funnyy

[@curtislamarh]

I really like the running theory that everyone's actually dead including Rose herself she died on the boat inject was just a figment of Her Imagination she suffered from grand delusions/depression lol which is probably why the people who were looking and laughing as she and Jack her "imaginary friend" were making out they were laughing at her making out with the air cuz she was by herself. everyone that is on the balcony staring at Jack and Rose kissare all actually did because the boat has already begun to think at this point when the movie

[@bigol9223]

Zero personal growth in 80 years. Everyone's had the misfortune of knowing some Roses in their lives.

[@Piromysl359]

Just imagine the hypothetical scenario if ship didn't hit the iceberg, wouldn't sink and everyone would live. In best case scenario Rose would cheat on Cel with Jack. If she would completely dump Cel and go with Jack, then this relationship sould turn toxic and abusive really fast.

[@tortinelli]

If the ship did survived, Rose betrayed her family to poverty by rejecting Cal. Her Mother just was looking for her Best after all, and the Best of Rose's Future Child.

[@bkdubs-the-dancer]

Cal was a abusive agressive monster. He tried shooting her, slapped the life out of her, tried convincing her to give love to him, they were 13 years apart, it was an arranged marriage, he was only there for the money (witch rose didn’t care ab), he framed several ppl, he steals a child to get into a boat, tried to kill several ppl, and many many other reasons.

[@JosephVice]

Rose was broke. Also it's cool to disagree but all of your points were covered in the video. You're wrong.

[@Ivone58]

Nahhh

[@jrdb04]

Ok no if u watch the first out or so if this move cal is genuinely nice treats rose well spends a shit load of money and is saving her and her mom from debt after her dad died and what does she do don’t even give him the time of day and try to commit suicide then while ie it’s excuse cal being absusive she did get with jack slept with him so cheating and then bragged I’m calls face insulted him and spit now listen u can say all the shit u want that’s cold and disgusting and she pretty much stole his diamond on top of that

[@Ivone58]

@@jrdb04 true rosé was just a dumb teenager girl cal was the real hero of titanic along with jack

[@tortinelli]

Man Cal just snapped out when he realized Rose got drilled by Jack on a fucking car, even when her parents was so attentive to win over Cal to Rose. Lol imagine the woman your going to marry just cheat you out of nowhere, what a b*ch

[@shirellx5471]

The iceberg: hold my beer

[@AuoraWolf5911]

You know Cal could have just cared about the necklace and nothing else

[@JosephVice]

Then she should have mailed it back to him.

[@samr8603]

What I love in the film is the Titanic has split in half, Rose and Jack are on the stern. She turns to Jack and says "What is happening Jack?". LOL. Urh.....the ship is sinking!

[@LN_Six_Pennywise_Fnaf]

I agree with everything you said. 😂

[@Jigmaster55]

Moral of the story. All women are Bi. Just have to guess if it's sexual or polar.

[@lazylefthand]

Bro, I've been saying this for years! She's worse than thanos.

[@dougbright4387]

I guess Cal just wasn't Kenough

[@JOHNNYCHICAGO8]

Lol 😂 Rose I'd the bad guy

[@bennyly7979]

So when the stern of the ship went up there was a girl who is hanging on the stern rose should have to save her.

[@JosephVice]

Rose just watches that blonde girl struggle then fall.....

[@justinp5661]

I 100% agree

[@monkmode9853]

Yeah bro im a man but i cry on jack more than rose But the scene that she help jack on the buttom of the ship was made me a ❤

[@Legomoviefan2008]

Oh. Jewel from Rio is worst. It’s not her fault. It’s the men looking at the icebergs fault. No offence.

[@magicalpictures9626]

I will say this. I agree on most of it. BUT! With all that said, this resentment comes from her mother as she basiclly married Rose off for the soul reason of only saving their family wealth. So you really get why she wont bother to love Cal because she is forced into it. I'm sure Cal loves her because even when after everything she has done, and while he loses his temper, he still tries to win her back. But he will never be able to win her love because she has already decided to hate them all because of her mothers selfish act. I guess what it comes down to is that being selfish is a family trait 😅

[@Sam21345]

How can you say something like this shame on you😢

[@Sam21345]

You are wrong 😢

[@ChloeHogwarts]

This is exactly what’s on my mind when I first saw this film, but later I got quite confused for everyone is talking about it as a romantic story and they are so moved by rose and Jake’s love story.😂😂 Another thing I can’t get it Jake’s the handsome guy in the film 😮I mean obviously Cal is way more attractive but

[@Coach-ks5yd]

Actually that is Jack andfroze creating a distraction but the captains are responsible but their own actions. Professionals decide whether or not they will be distracted. It's actually tempting to say Jack and Rose are the problem but they are not. The guy's watching had a choice. Stop good at catching that 1 scene

[@sweetplaysclaw7084]

Yeah that’s true but I mean we can’t deny that Rose was also part of the problem too

[@kozmokramer7398]

even when she dies she is selfish

[@benzippos]

This is a very famous movie thats been watched by millions but the way you condensed its characters down down making it feel like a tumblr love story post from 2015 is funny af only thing missing is making rose gay.

[@Coach-ks5yd]

Jack gave Rose the door. The husband she spent her life with and that granddaughter and the ones we should actually feel sorry for

[@All-Round-Talk]

Rose is culprit and shown as innocent but she is good example of person with intolerance.

[@yoleeisbored]

Lol rose is helen of troy

[@chrisanderson9157]

The women usually are.

[@EpicZombieK]

You do realize she's a fictional character and the titanic was a real ship that did sink just saying

[@psp785]

I agree

[@Piromysl359]

I also liked how when Rose realized Jack passed away due to hypothermia, she casually, without showing any emotion detached his body from the door and dumped him into the water to sink like a trash, which would imply she didn't even cared about him.

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

She did it with all the pain in her heart. So much that for a second it seemed she wanted to die too. Did you watch the film?

[@tortinelli]

Everyone watched the film, everone saw Rose Pushing Jack's frozen body out of the plank.

[@lincolnworsham1085]

Based

[@arnavthegreat4483]

Jack would have never married her He did not look like a guy who would be interested in marriage imo he would have dumped her after coming to america

[@winpupu]

That's exactly why I hate this movie 100% agree

[@mba2ceo]

Who would have UNCHAINED JACK ?

[@JosephVice]

Yes he would have died an hour earlier without Rose's heroism.

[@AndreiPopescu]

He wouldn't be there in the first place if he didn't meet her.

[@Kls638]

Cal was physically abusive and controlling. She’s selfish because she didn’t want that life? I thought you insecure men hate when women marry for money and now you’re blaming her for not wanting to. Little boys. Makes up your sensitive minds, there is no winning is there?

[@juanmanikings]

Pff are you really defending that selfish woman and i know that cal is controlling but what about her husband? Shes selfish deal with it

[@martincurran6432]

​@@juanmanikingswhy what did Rose do wrong? She left an abusive man whom she was being forced to marry

[@juanmanikings]

@@martincurran6432 Like i said i know that cal is abusive but what happened with her actual husband that she had kids with why is so selfish thinking about about a guy only met a couple of days

[@martincurran6432]

@@juanmanikings because in romantic movies like this, people fall in love within days. It's not real life

[@juanmanikings]

@@martincurran6432 yeah i know is unrealistic thats why didnt like the romantic subplot

[@afterhourscinema782]

You know what's even worse?? She's not even all that 😂 I mean, don't get me wrong. She's a good 7.7/10 but she's no Margot Robbie

[@thebanished87]

Women ☕

[@LunarEclipse-eg1xq]

Your mom

[@PemLhazin-gs4pw]

I also didn't like her in the end scene

[@zyzzbrah154]

real