Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts | Lex Fridman

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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Munk Pack: munkpack.com and use code LEX to get 20% off - LMNT: drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get special savings - Rev: rev.ai/lex to get 7-day free trial 2:07 - Nietzsche 7:25 - Good and Evil 22:37 - Joe Rogan library 24:35 - Catch wrestling 34:41 - Anarchy 53:10 - Hitler and Stalin 1:10:11 - Karl Gotch 1:18:36 - Mike Tyson 1:26:58 - Violent victory 1:35:07 - Fedor Emelionenko 1:37:28 - Greatest MMA fighters of all time 1:47:25 - Early UFCs 1:52:09 - Advice for young people 1:56:02 - The value of competition 1:58:40 - Blade Runner 2:09:32 - Meaning of life

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Topics asf

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Lex, you're amazing! Your output is insane, brother! Thank you so much! You put all other podcasts, (Even the $100 million ones!), to shame! With Love, from The UK.

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Try to get Aubrey De Grey lex.

[@richardrallo6605]

No Lex, nature IS cruel, AND that's just the way it is. If nature isn't cruel, first of all then nothing is, but second, then it isn't beautiful or anything else either, cause it can't be, it's just the way it is. See? (Edit) I know what you meant though: it can't MEAN to be cruel, etc...

[@Dsksea]

Any possibility you'll do Jony Ive from Apple anytime in the future? I've watched a few of his interviews, and it seems like it would be a fascinating podcast.

[@danielcoyle7740]

Lex, the timestamping is SO useful. Thanks for being one of the folks who does this. I love the conversation about the place violence has in humanity. It DOES occur that you often bring subjects back to some overarching goal of "Love" or "Love as the main thing". Without doing more to really articulate and elaborate on this sentiment it comes across, for me, as well intentioned and naive. Anything you can do to flesh that out further and in a more crisp or concise way is helpful.

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this podcast is insane, everything from MMA to Computer Science. Worthy successor to the Joe Rogan podcast, love it

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Lex Friedman podcast is a real interview & has mostly serious tone to it. Slow and Robotic for me its boring. Feel sleepy everytime 😅 JRE its more of a conversation than an interview and tone depends on the conversations with guest. Good pace easy to listen without getting bored and sleepy

[@urjeshutthasani3714]

Not a "successor to the Joe Rogan", lex is far superior to Joe in every sense of the word and his podcasts are far more intelligent and educated in comparison with that of Joe. No disrespect to Joe.

[@urjeshutthasani3714]

@@dranreb1118 his way of speaking can be improved, I agree with you but dont you think how unctuous Joe is , how obsequiously he prevents himself from disagreeing with the guests and how forced sometimes his dramatic reactions are. That is not a defense to Lex. If you look at the depth of the discussion I believe you will agree with me about the superiority, (definitely not the presenting style ). Thank you for responding.

[@urjeshutthasani3714]

@@dranreb1118 thank you for responding.

[@broluxgigantos89]

Lex might take over for Spotify Joe. Spotify Joe sold out...and now I need someone else to listen to

[@daskook2656]

I found you on JRE and find myself watching this show more, Josh Barnett is always a great interview.

[@sigigle]

I knew Josh Barnett wasn't exactly a dummy, he's obviously quite bright from what I've seen, but I didn't know he was on this level. Insightful, philosophical, thoughtful, learned, articulate, knowledgeable, intelligent, etc. Good stuff. =)

[@fives.]

HOLY SHIT this might be a dark horse for my favourite episode

[@NinjaofApathy]

@@sarahwestwood3003 report this guys account it is not lex fridman.

[@amol5613]

@@sarahwestwood3003 get barnett to let rip on this guy

[@dodgyxd4772]

agreeeed

[@randysingh9334]

Josh's intellect, knowledge and logic is high level. Great interview.

[@frankh1829]

Agreed. Also, I learned Josh is a clinical sociopath.

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

Had no idea Josh Barnett would be such an intellectual treasure trove and such a pleasure to listen to! One of my fave Lex podcasts.

[@dannyh5937]

Josh is one of the best interviews. He's incredibly smart and well read.

[@MegaKootz]

This was one of my favorite interviews of all time. Warrior Philosopher time!

[@rennhoalohaloren6211]

Barnett comes off as very well-spoken, articulate, and highly intelligent. Thanks, Lex for yet another fantastic episode!

[@edbn24]

Barnett might be the most well-spoken MMA fighter (current or retired) out there

[@dontwantid]

which is insane, given his career.

[@edbn24]

@@dontwantid true

[@brianomoli4]

His buddy Tait Fletcher is the same way. Smart and thoughtful..... until it’s time to NOT be.

[@dontwantid]

@@brianomoli4 no no, it's insane that he even retains the ability to be so well spoken and intelligent in light of his career. There are inherent dangers with his career choice and long term mental function and capacity due to head trauma is most likely one of them. Glad to see it hasn't got to him.

[@nicholasholmes5109]

Canonized is the word Josh is looking for at the beginning. Great guest. Super smart. Super fucking badass.

[@TheOriginalJAX]

Josh is the man, He makes points that iv tried to get across to people for years. I'm only 15 mins or so in.

[@huntercoxpersonal]

This is one of my favorite guests you’ve had on... and that’s saying something because you’ve been absolutely killing it lately.. I have to say, you are King of the Hill now with 1-on-1 intellectual podcasts. Keep it up man!

[@jaredcherry7593]

Only heard Josh speak a few time, always enjoyed it. But this is the most clear-headed and well-articulated I feel he's ever been. Great episode guys, really enjoyed this one.

[@jaredcherry7593]

@@sarahwestwood3003 What?

[@osirisosiris4955]

Not sure why Josh doesn’t have a show of his own yet. Easily one of the coolest dudes that came from the UFC and let’s not ignore the fact he’s rocking a Watain T! 💯 🤟

[@christophertiftickjian9053]

Thanks Lex. Josh is great. One of my favorite grapplers of all time and super articulate. You two played off each other very well. Brightened my week.

[@perkyporkpie]

When I was 13 we used to be taken out most weekends doing army training with an ex SAS guy. I was very nervy kid -full and anxiety and OCD. The reason I mention this is Mr Barnett reminds me of him. We were all from council houses and he talked to us about a huge amount of subjects none of which we really knew about or even had the background to understand. Combine this with a huge amount of physical work and I think it fair to say he saved us all that went with him. People like this are ultra important to young men-more now than ever.

[@individuationportal]

wow. 3 mins in, I am HOOKED by this man's mindset

[@individuationportal]

@Lex Friedman uhh... thanks? not understand the context for this reply

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[@marianaespinosa3890]

@Maxwell R. 😆

[@killians4927]

I feel such an intrinsic connection to Josh's thoughts on violence and human nature. I've never had a desire to be a bully or to hurt someone that didn't accept the risk but there's a lust for violence that I think many people have that is separate from evil. Something that I didn't understand growing up and I wish I had Josh to look to for guidance as a kid. I thought my desire for battle and evil was one in the same and I grew up shunning that side of myself for fear of becoming a monster. I even joined the Army in the hope of gaining an outlet for some of those cravings. When I couldn't get on a deployment despite trying to go, I took it as a sign that I should bottle my base nature and move on. This has helped me realize that maybe I shouldn't be ashamed of how I feel and maybe join a Jiu Jitsu gym or something to have a positive outlet instead of always having that nagging voice in the back of my head. Thank you Lex, for all the great conversations.

[@killians4927]

@@thegoodlife5205 I will, thanks man!

[@JC-xk8vh]

One of my most favorite podcast out of all of my genres. Please bring him back ASAP.

[@ohyabuddy12]

Jesus, i can't even keep up Lex. This has been some amazing content and I will have to go back and listen to each one multiple times lol. thank you !

[@TheMongolianMage]

Not even 10 minutes in, but have already decided Lex needs to have this guy back on the podcast He's awesome, in the truest sense of the word

[@Ggldoork]

Having watched Josh fight over the years - I had no idea he was an intellectual. Cool! Also diggin “The Beard” cool two tone. Dude is a beast in the cage!

[@inthedeepstate]

Interesting how so many great people from all walks of life have been influenced by thinkers like Jung and Nietzsche and by philosophy in general

[@158-i6z]

A requisite is that their writings are coherent and pleasing to the ego of the readers. And I mean that in a nonnegative and neutral way (i.e. I'm not saying that most people will only follow a philosopher that flatters them, because most are not narcissistic and/or stupid). What I'm saying is - who's going to follow a thinker whose conclusions don't lead to better emotional outcomes for themselves? Nietzsche, Wittgenstein (especially), Camus, and Schopenhauer resonate with my own thinking because while they reject implicit purpose to pursuit and the absurd materialism that belies our motivation ("man can do what he wills but cannot will what he wills"), they offer their own solutions to nihilism. Camus most notably championed the absurd and Nietzsche said "fuck it" and live life like a champion if you so desire, without fear. Schopenhauer and Wittgenstein were more depressing and dismissive of meaning. But their rational arguments (Wittgenstein on language, Schopenhauer on will) are appealing to me. In essence, I'm saying that there's a NICHE (ha, get it?) in the minds of people to be configured by elaborate arguments on existence and purpose. And these thinkers happened to do that. And that's what I think.

[@deadsypadilla]

Knowledge is 🔋 power.

[@djkillstreak33]

Good example of worthy teachings and teachers of philosophy if there ideas stand the test of time

[@nickbosman5]

I really like Jung.

[@GhostofFranky]

@@158-i6z wouldn’t the mark of a good philosopher be positive emotional outcomes for the vast majority of the people they influence? It isn’t particularly useful if it doesn’t improve your life in some way. It’s also even less useful if it only applies to a specific type of person. Let’s say I came to some conclusions that were useful for a schizophrenic structured mind. It wouldn’t make it very far because it would only be understood and useful for a small subset of a broad population. It’s wonderful that the philosophers you like appeal to you but it isn’t particularly useful if you are quite different than most people on the planet. It also kind of bolsters the claim that there is some kind of “collective unconscious” from which the vast majority is influenced by.

[@BroncoC206]

Probably one of the most profound and inspiring MMA fighter I have ever seen. Articulated and strong AF, IM IN! Thanks Lex,

[@gdgrim]

I watched Josh fight since the early days of Pride. I'm happy to find out he is such a well spoken and "thinking" individual. I really enjoyed this talk.

[@TheDreamDetective888]

Josh Barnett, you sir are a legit philosopher 👏👏👏

[@adwaitkulkarni3567]

You're the best person to do a talk with Naval Ravikant. Get him on, Lexi. Lots of love & best wishes!

[@fubarexress6359]

The look on lexs face when Barnet slowly but surely smashes his idealistic, “love, kindness and empathy way of life.” I take a very pragmatic, very realistic approach to life. Stay out of my way, don’t use aggression/violence and neither will I. If you do. I will be more violent and strive to eliminate you. This is why I’m remote a remote worker. And removed from most of humanity. Makes my life easier.

[@dseednorwayn47]

Josh is up there amongst the best mentors and influencers in the categories "nobullshit", "honesty", "hardwork" and "willingsness", a true pioneer and just a pure bad ass dude. Something the youngster in these days should have a good look at. Josh for president of the world ))

[@CMHC]

What a great convo. Listened to the whole thing. Worth my time. Thanks gents!

[@franchyspb]

This was the best podcast I have listened to in at least a year, maybe longer. Thank you @LexFridman and thank you @JoshBarnett for sharing.

[@REP300]

The Clutch lyric quote was amazing. So glad Josh likes Clutch.

[@henrylicious]

As any reasonable person should...

[@ricgarcia_art]

Josh is so smart. Does he have a podcast of his own? He’s great at it. Great interview Lex!

[@didierbarradas1581]

Lex this is one of my favorite episodes of your podcast, this is the second time I'm listening because of the end segment "the meaning of life" it's priceless! hahaha. The whole thing is great

[@SimonScottSteel]

Where was he gonna go with that? Please explain?

[@rodrigotstipp1283]

One of your best podcasts!

[@daveorenstein7802]

Josh Barnett is a very wise man. I'm a former mma fan so not really into mma at the moment so I was pleasantly surprised the topics were so stimulating. Enjoyed his perspective and ideas.

[@Jenna_TLS]

Lex I fucking love you. Keep up the amazing work.

[@boky7731]

@@sarahwestwood3003 you trippin man

[@MrX-wd8cm]

Came across this by accident but truly glad I did, what an interview, the Warmaster has depth and wisdom - I learnt a lot.

[@BlakeMitchell1]

Love this interview, didn't hear from Josh Barnett before and he's got a lot to say! Get him back on!

[@sunejrgensen8516]

should listen to his apperances on Rogans podcast too. it´s worth the listen :)

[@AmericanArgonaut]

@@sarahwestwood3003 scammer!!

[@RodGrom]

GREATEST INTERVIEW EVER!!! WELL DONE LEX!!!

[@AmericanArgonaut]

I honestly am sitting here trying to think of one. I’ve watched Rogan since Redban. Seen Josh many times.... but this is an expanded version of him either he’s never expanded on or someone hasn’t brought out. Either way, it’s definitely Top 3 Podcasts I’ve watched in a while.

[@georgeprice92]

i just realised that Josh is the embodiment of Yes Chad.

[@y0gokvlt]

Memes immitates lifes, Lives immitates memes

[@christianwolfart3290]

Wow, i had no clue how cool Barnett is. Def going to check this guy out! Great show, boss!

[@totoro360]

Thank you Lex for sharing with us

[@gunnermatthey847]

Such a beast. So well spoken and so smart. Huge fan of Josh

[@PavltheRobot]

Great conversation, hope to see Josh appear in the future podcasts as well! He is such a chad and brilliant person overall

[@mrzed2349]

An amazing interview.

[@TheChavez1976]

Never Knew Josh was so intelligent. Great insight here. Both you guys. One of the best Podcast.

[@AeonsONE]

Lex you have become my favorite podcasts this last year. You are the highlight of my curfew ridden life. Keep it up !

[@jimpayne9545]

I really enjoyed this conversation. It had so many different elements, and Josh is a very eloquent speaker. I hope he becomes a repeat guest.

[@gopibble]

Thank you, Lex. Just phenomenal.

[@samp.a.3445]

Wow, this is epic. Josh brings it REAL!

[@samp.a.3445]

@@sarahwestwood3003 Thank you, will do

[@PepeFuego369]

I get so damn excited whenever I see you upload. Keep doing your thing. Start a membership for your channel. You are leaving way too much money on the table. Also some merch

[@tonymorgan8397]

Lex interviewing Paul Chek would be 🔥

[@JesseP.Watson]

Amazed often how retired fighters make for such incredibly insightful spiritual/philosophical teachers... ...Not to mention calming influences... I just love the complete reversal of expectations in that reality. ...Proves an understanding too often lacking, I guess... you get wise by being challenged... Get good by learning the bad. ...Maybe.

[@XenoTravis]

Uh no one told me he can walk circles around a psych professor (at least the sad mofos I had in college) and then walk octogons around Brock lesner

[@oscarzamora819]

@1:07:05 you hit home for me brotha. That's exactly what I've been thinking about lately. I go to war with myself everyday through wt, cardio and bjj training and I've never felt so alive now. Ty for that sir. Have a wonderful day

[@jaredlind2888]

Lex, your guest list is simply the best. I would love for you to interview Svetlana Alexievich. You would probably have to do the whole podcast in Russian (but I think we all would read our way through just fine) as I don't think she speaks English. Her books on life in the USSR and the experiences of hundreds of people across those decades are truly gripping to read.

[@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners]

Great video. Josh is such a fascinating and impressive human being.

[@EmperorNerox]

"The world is a work of art constantly giving rebirth to itself" - nietzsche

[@bardoface]

Josh rules. From Metal, Nietzsche, Heidegger, War and MMA.

[@charlesmoerer2394]

Thank you gentlemen for your time very much enjoyed

[@aperson4051]

Oh Wow, this is a conversation I didn't know I needed in my life!!

[@AmericanArgonaut]

Holy shit this is a good podcast! I’ve watched Josh on Rogan many times. I’m not sure they ever had a conversation quite like this.... this is one of the most thought provoking /balancing things I’ve watched in a while. Well done gentlemen. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

[@michaelwinters2574]

Yeah I don’t think Rogan has the depth of thought to carry a conversation like this. Not knocking him, as his skills lie in other areas.

[@blakeisdope]

you got josh barnett!! haha this podcast is the best, such an eclectic group of people

[@chuautesuma]

I came in kinda Judgy of this guy thinking to myself: a fighter what does he know, only to be instantaneously introduced to a top bloke who understands that ideas can be misconstrued, such as the Ubermnenschen, and the guy just carries on with such insight.

[@RodGrom]

We should all listen to this interview with Nuclear Assault as background music!!! Best combination ever!!!

[@theresazg5722]

This was a great conversation. I’m not into MMA and no very little about it but super good podcast.

[@wilhelmhesse1348]

One of the smartest and toughest human beings on the planet, Josh Barnett!

[@onewillow8511]

Great guest! Lex caught me off guard with this one. 😄 Josh is such an interesting and curious cat. I followed him since the early Pride days. And his knowledge of general culture and history is vast, with emphasis on combat culture and all the nuances that follow and surround it's progress throughout the human history. Plus, he has a good sense for humor and empathy, which are prerequisites for a good human being. /imho 🤝👊

[@jonsavage4254]

Another fantastic podcast Lex. Keep up the amazing work

[@MrThidious]

Should be a great conversation! Thanks Lex

[@paulaponte1309]

Great job Lex, and thank you Josh for doing all the things in your past that led you to be you.

[@TheBwee123]

Love JB , favorite interview yet

[@lukthere2]

Great interview! Didn't expect so much knowlwdge to pour out of Josh

[@amarsaini1548]

Is it just me or he looks a lil like elder brother of Jan Błachowicz

[@thedonofthsht76-58]

Lol I could see that

[@althafmuhammad1283]

Exactly

[@Roarman57]

Wow what a well spoken highly intelligent bad ass!

[@AdobadoFantastico]

Great interview as always. Love Josh Barnett.

[@tmstani23]

God Damnit @Lex Fridman, you rock! And this podcast is fascinating and insightful. Much

[@SergioArroyoSailing]

omg what an interview!

[@youssef7694]

Never stop lex, never!

[@nunchuksteev9811]

Best episode. Not even close.

[@Razorice]

it would be fun to see them play magic against eachother :p

[@Monotheist137]

And dungeons and dragons

[@CursedMarkMedia]

I was hoping they would.

[@VeganJutsu]

You can unlock rage but rage is not Anger. Rage is the power you speak of Lex

[@toddbertram6556]

The baby faced assassin, the warmaster, the legend.

[@SuperMisque]

quote by matt buckner from the film green street hooligans "I've never lived closer to danger, but I've never felt safer. I've never felt more confident, and people could spot it from a mile away. And as for this, the violence? I gotta be honest - it grew on me. Once you've taken a few punches and realize you're not made of glass, you don't feel alive unless you're pushing yourself as far as you can go."

[@PrimeMatt]

I love Josh, could listen to him all day long.

[@thomasroussin]

Such a stellar podcast, Lex!

[@codybroken]

Lex seems so sweet and kind hearted.

[@imm0rtalitypassi0n]

Truly fantastic conversation.

[@Tegardener666]

Josh repping black metal with his Watain shirt 🤘

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[@jeremymurphy6095]

Original Sin, My Favourite Drum & Bass Producer. Now I know where that comes from. Sweet

[@xsqrewfacex]

lex platinum with the fire guests as usual.warriors in the house

[@bja311]

Thank you, Lex!

[@Nick5244-y5v]

Lex your so damn inspiration bro!! Love the positivity and the love you bring to this world!! Would love to be in your presence one day!! thanks for the motivation you bring!! Peace and love to all ☮️

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[@steve18946]

Looking forward to this, best podcast ever!

[@wilhelmhesse1348]

"Facts don't care about your feelings" Ben Shapiro Rewind a couple of hundred years back "Truth is not what you want it to be, it is what it is, you must bend to it's power or live a lie" Miyamoto Musashi