He got Top 4 with Maths

[Streamed Live on 18th June, 2024]
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[@alberosaggio5142]

This guy is the Mathematician fr

[@avatarmufasa3628]

He is. I went to university with him. We played Yu-Gi-Oh there The guy has a maths degree

[@denzelnatha9075]

​@@avatarmufasa3628you can see by the way he explained how the card worked, really cool

[@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl]

@@avatarmufasa3628 and he is your boyfriend we know you are both gay it's too obvious

[@poteresurreale5781]

@@avatarmufasa3628crazy lore

[@xCorvus7x]

@@avatarmufasa3628 That is what it looked like when he just moved the Fusion monster row over to demonstrate the different levels/ranks to which x+y can add up.

[@nial1396]

a judge dropped word of players using simultaneous equation cannons to other judges during the event and every time i went back to the judge's area, there was always someone reading simultaneous equation cannons and trying to understand it, lol

[@ProtossTempest]

Ghost of Algebra teach being like: "SEE?! I told you this woild be important! But you didn't listen!..."

[@CMaxoknight31]

this isn't the mathmech I'm used to💀

[@L3w157]

Fun fact - in game 2 I actually had SEC set the entire game. It was a big shame that my opponent was actively playing around it, otherwise I would have resolved it both games in the match. This is also why I activated welcome in his draw phase, I was trying to bait him into triggering temple on the lovely summon.

[@L3w157]

It's easy enough to modulate the card count. For example punishment by itself can reduce the card count by 1, 2 or 3 depending on how you time it. To reduce by 1 chain punishment to the SEC. To reduce by 2 activate punishment to pop and then both punishment and the card you popped will go to Gy. To reduce by 3 send n'tts and pop 1 more card.

[@TheFrenchZarrior]

well done on 4th place friend. May i ask what is the watch you are wearing its really nice

[@babrad]

@@L3w157 i see, so that's why you used punishment. I saw my comment was removed lol. Thanks for the answer

[@DarkCT]

credit to you for running this, because i am so impressed.

[@Gilgamesh-em6ru]

@@babrad not surprised

[@ruryz]

imagine in the future, your opponent started doing math on your full board and you dont have negate

[@A-G-B]

Or you negate and then they witch strike u 💀

[@stayflyxx]

This player is really something else. The way he explained the extra deck was like a really good teacher going through it. The card immediately clicked with me after that. As long as you know the meta (And don't screw yourself with prosp), you can reliably fire it off.

[@Mashearelly]

So this is what my teacher meant by "You're going to use this kind of math one day" 😮

[@ProtossTempest]

*starts looking for old high school books*

[@cyber5787]

Player: Judge! He already spent 10 minutes reading my card Judge comes: *spent another 10 minutes reading the card*

[@ProtossTempest]

Judge, after 10 minutes: "It's clean. Your cards are banished." Player 2: "So i'm dead huh?" Player 1: "You're dead bruh."

[@colorfulmoth]

For those interested, simultaneous equation cannon equations can be simplified to the following: Rank = Total cards - Monster level Fusion Monster Level = Monster level - Rank For example, if there are a total of 10 cards and your opponent control a Kashtira Fenrir, it would yield the following: Rank = 10 - 7 = 3 Fusion Monster Level = 7 - 3 = 4. You'd need to banish 2 rank 3 and a level 4 fusion.

[@Joac0ck]

7-7=4?

[@davidraisa-yg3tm]

The more i read the card The more complicated is

[@Cosmo102]

I don't get it.......am I dumb

[@quintonclothier6171]

No. The card is just a complicated one.

[@peredurxiv9174]

​@@Cosmo102 ok, so "total cards" is the number of cards on the field and hand; "monster level" is the monster in the field you wanna target. The formula gives you now which fusion and xyz monster you have to banish. For the xyz monster, you need to calculate [Total cards - monster you wanna target] and thats then the rank of the two monsters; and for the fusion monster you have to calculate [monster you wanna target - rank you figured out previously] And then there is an example

[@Kojoizfreshz]

I played the trap card but it’s somewhat hard to explain it to your opponent so I said fuck it, I took it out

[@lusio1579]

so you basically nerfed yourself because your opponments aren't smart enough to do a calculus? that's sad for you

[@lapizinvertido6080]

That is kind of the point too it wastes time

[@GaussianEntity]

Use the sliding method the pilot developed. He showed it in the video when he was explaining how it worked with the Extra. No need to explain numbers when you literally line it up.

[@258thHiGuy]

You get to point and laugh at people who failed middle school math

[@TheColdestplay]

@@GaussianEntity ye but you wouldnt show your whole extra for no reason. its a great method to explain it for sure though

[@05stapj]

The second half of cannon being optional will make it very funny in master duel The card will be glowing even when it can't resolve 😂

[@soulstarved4116]

The way I use it is to recognize when it goes live. Wait until your opponent summons a monster with a level, preferably a high-level monster. Then, start counting the cards in play. Each level of monster has a range of cards in play that make the trap live. For example, the guy in the video was focusing on level 8. 2×3+5=11 2×6+2=14 His range he's looking for when there's a level 8 on field is between 11 14 cards in play. So, in short, you just have to memorize the range of cards in play with the popular level of your opponent deck.

[@joeqiao1691]

This is the best explanation I've read. I'm gonna start using this card. Thanks!

[@xCorvus7x]

22:31 matLab is a brilliant deck name

[@JC02102]

shout out to all the maths and engineering students that were forced to learn it and never used it ever again

[@mariobutcher1223]

@@JC02102 Fucking facts, fkn octave

[@armandonoriega681]

Mat Lab sounds similar to Mad Lad, so, yes, brilliant name

[@starfoxnes]

I love that name

[@soranobabel4474]

teacher: the math exam is going to be easy the math exam:

[@codybyers2043]

Some algebra: Equation 1 is 2x + y = A, where X is the Xyz rank and Y is the fusion level. Equation 2 is x + y = B, where B is the level of the monster. Solving the equations for X and Y gives: X = A - B Y = 2B - A So when X is between 3 and 6 and Y is between 1 and 5 (based on OP's extra deck config), you can activate and resolve the cannon. Keeping track of those two sums alone seems like the much easier way to make sure you can activate it at the right time. So for example, if there are 14 total cards and your opponent has a Flamberge on field, that makes A = 14 and B = 8, so you should banish two rank 6 Xyz monsters and a level 2 Fusion monster. (2*6 + 2 = 14, 6 + 2 = 8)

[@chittasticchitta1164]

Keep in mind , hugin also banishes itself. So thats more setup for maths

[@L3w157]

I did this in one game actually - should have mentioned in the profile.

[@alucard4344]

​@@L3w157 the man himself, congrats for making such a cool card work, are we sure tho, that prosperity and cannons don't synergize together? You can probably shark someone into believing it...

[@L3w157]

They definitely do not work together. As long as you're thinking carefully prosp is usually fine though. And prosp also helps you find cannons more often.

[@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl]

* Herself

[@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl]

@@L3w157 Thought of using Dimensional Fissure in this deck ? Messes with so many decks that need the graveyard , YOUR trap cards still go to graveyard and you don't really need the graveyard for monsters. Then if any of your fusions or xyz would go to graveyard they get banished instead which is good for you in this deck.

[@darkjak565]

When he moved the row of fusions along to show optimization for higher levels I started cackling. This man is The Mathematician. He cooked.

[@Pompoen796]

He's a math teacher

[@delta3244]

2x + y = C x + y = L ⇔ x = C - L, y = L - x x ≡ Xyz rank y ≡ Fusion level C ≡ total cards (hands and fields) L ≡ level of a given opponent's monster. TRANSLATION, ignoring fail condition: Banish two Xyz monsters whose rank equals the difference between the total number of cards in play and the level (or rank) of one opponent's monster. Banish a fusion whose level equals the difference between the level of that monster, and that rank. Return the fusion and one of the Xyzs to the deck, and banish everything your opponent controls. (edits - typos, and fixed an error in the translation)

[@EduardoOliveira-yr3ib]

This is so smart actually, congrats to Lewis

[@mrharvy100]

This card would be a pain in the ass to have to explain every time you use it. At least in MD it skips the explain part.

[@nfisher5685]

A PhD in dueling

[@dabarker.y7465]

He talks in perfect 2x speed it’s tripping me out 😂

[@1gnis1337]

it is sped up by josh tho

[@yuseifudo6075]

We should make an exception for him and let him play circular at 5

[@Freshy2811]

imagine your oponent doing their combos if you could activate this card from hand during your oponents turn xD

[@BDPnix]

but you can, arias will do that for you

[@MarioLopez-xs3vc]

Yeah, that's the whole point of Arias, to turn ANY Normal Trap into a makeshift Hand Trap. And then as a bonus it gets to Special itself if your opponent tries to interact with said Trap, which is pretty cool support for any Trap focused deck, not just Labrynth(which just has the most consistent access to it but sometimes plays too many monsters to use it optimally ironically enough).

[@Practicalinvestments]

@@BDPnixwhat’s the full name of this card? It seems genuinely good not just for this but for other trap focused decks like traptrix, I definitely want to get a few copies to keep around for play testing stuff

[@BDPnix]

@@Practicalinvestments Arias the Labrynth Butler

[@sdedy379]

Oh i thought this is linear equation cannon. Simultaneous cannon isn't that complicated of a card to basically board wipe banish all your opponent cards. It's unrespondable by your opponent monster and you basically use it when the total cards in *BOTH* player hand and field are pretty low so it's manageable. You playing runick so that you have variety of fusion monster for the cannon and basically almost never use extra deck to summon meaningful monster so you can have a bunch of random cards to yeet out. This isn't that crazy of a deck now that i think about it😅.

[@KingoftheAbyss]

Duel logs would be proud

[@DirtCheapFU]

There were some pretty fun Common rarity cards played between both majors. Like, Blink Out in the plant decks.

[@Earthbound524]

Does anyone have the spreadsheet? I might give it a shot and it would be helpful to use for future reference.

[@chestnutmouse6823]

Judge! The card

[@forget3100]

If your opponent chains something like I:P in response to the activation of equation cannons, do you pick the monster during activation or resolution of equation cannons?

[@SuperSox97]

The monster would be chosen at resolution

[@maxwellabelson7794]

During resolution of Cannon. There is no cost on the card

[@denzou0]

The first linear equation cannon can work well in a mill deck. You just have to pay attention to every move your opponent makes while using it.

[@YugiZO]

i think you could get this to work reliably by finding an activation condition. Like you calculated before that once a certain level/rank monster is on the opponent’s field for how to make it work. Then you’re just counting cards on the field until it hits that pre-calculated mark. You wouldn’t even have to think about it

[@adantihir8953]

how does equation cannon works with rollback ?

[@thunderhogTH]

The coolest aspect i think about this being in Lab is that they have a lot of means to actually manipulate the "total cards in control" aspect by triggering a trap to add the furniture and welcome back out the grave. With enough math you can even opt to not add one or the other to hit the sweet spot needed to make it work.

[@k0ch1]

this is gold

[@oof7734]

That is pretty awesome

[@zenbozic6184]

shoutout to the guy in chat who said "Runick engine Pog" when skill drains hit the field

[@aminy529]

25:40 Can't count to Five he said.. Poor summer child

[@darkolos5836]

dude I KNEW this card was good

[@BloodsCaress]

rank 2,3,4, xyzs and level 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 for the fusions. can hit 6, 7, 8(2), 9, 10(2), 11(2), 12, and 13 for cards on field and hand. then levels can be anywhere from 4-10

[@gamliel2782]

josh you have to try this

[@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174]

I am going to play it to make sure it is actually really resolving

[@four-en-tee]

So just making sure i understand this: in the Snake-Eye match-up, that means you're trying to return to the extra deck a combined level/rank of 7, correct? Because this wouldn't be able to target level 1s, the lowest possible number you can make is 2. Its why Millennium Eyes is in the deck and its why he's running XYZs of incremental ranks. He's performing addition to be able to target whatever level/rank monster he wants with that trap card in order to blow up their board. All he has to do is wait until the amount of cards that are collectively in both players hands/field match the combined number of the levels/ranks he wants to send. For example: if he wants to target Diabellstar, he can't activate the card until there's collectively 13 cards in the fields/hands because 6+6+1=13 and then 6+1=7. Its also why he's not playing any cards that are neg 1 because he wants to have as much cards in both players hands/fields required to activate the card if he opens with it. Its a stupidly convoluted activation window, but i guess the payoff is big and he's playing a pretty patient/grindy deck (and it still covers other decks he'd run into like Branded for example, which run a fair amount of level 4s and 6s). Functionally, its just 3 more copies of Torrential without telegraphing to your opponent that you're running Torrential in your deck (otherwise he'd just be playing the Torrential searcher spell). And like Josh mentioned, it does have synergy with Hugin. I'm kinda half-tempted to experiment with that in my own Lab deck since I don't really use my extra deck with it. I figure that the formula wouldn't be hard to remember after i've performed it enough times.

[@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl]

Wow Sherlock thanks for telling me something I understood from the first second. Point is the card sucks cause it is too hard to use but if this starts seeing play making the game more luck reliant then I can simply use my 3 Imperial Iron Wall again and laugh at their faces.

[@four-en-tee]

​@@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl No, i was asking to confirm whether or not "I" was understanding it correctly. I really don't care how long it took you to figure it out because that's not beneficial to me whatsoever. My comment wasn't about stroking anybody's ego, but thanks for the snobby response I guess, lol.

[@GaussianEntity]

Yeah this is a good understanding. He wants to hit mainly level 7s and 8s while also matching up the number of cards in hand and field. 13 is a high number though, the better estimate is 11 once you consider player minuses and there's quite a few in Lab. For reference, 2 rank 6s and a level 1 is for 13, but 2 rank 4s and a level 3 is 11 while still targeting the same Diabellstar.

[@babrad]

@19:15 if you see how they paired the XYZ and the fusions, they all make 8 total (rank 3 + lvl 5 etc). The goal is to keep this constant and activate when a lvl8 monster is on the opponent's field. Then we count cards on field + hands, and pick the correct pair. For example 2 rank 3s + fusion lvl 5 mean 11 cards total. So you can activate this for lvl8 when the total cards are 11, 12, 13, 14. You have your 5 cards, while the opponent has 6 cards (so the total is 11) and you can use this immediately for example if the opponent summons a lvl8. if the extra deck had 16 slots, they could have also used 2 rank 2s + a fusion lvl 6 so this works for 10 cards. From that point, when they shifted the fusions 1 place to the right, pairs targeted level 7 monster on the opponent's field (like Diabel and Fenrir). That's why on stream we got Ceasar (6) + Hugin (1), while the card total was 6+6+1=11. If you shift them 1 more to the right, they target lvl6 etc. Hope this helps

[@babrad]

for a lvl 2 face up, you would need 2 rank 1s + a fusion lvl 1, so when you return 1 fusion and 1 xyz you have 1+1. That would mean the total cards in your fields and hands are 3 so it's very hard to work. As you said it doesn't work with lvl 1s, even using Xyzs that have no rank printed because they have a clause to always treat them as rank 1 or rank 12.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

This game got so complicated that we have to use literal algebra calculations in it

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

glad to see the world is waking up to how garbadge furnitures are

[@izsan9070]

That's not a cannon, that's a nuke. 🔥

[@unorevers7160]

Terrence Howard reinvented math just to play around the simultaneous equation cannon.

[@Throrma]

When your extradeck becomes resource

[@xenonim]

We can test the card in MD. Luckily we have a place to test it out. Once it come out. Currently in MD we can put a test for linear equation cannon.

[@egggge4752]

Imagine this becomes the meta? Its jover 💀

[@esrohm6460]

i would love to see the face of someone when you activate cannon banish 3 cards and while they still try to understand the card you go effect resolved, MAINTAIN PRIORITY, activate the second also is it staling for time when you pull up in the middle of the game a piece of paper and do calculus to figure out if you can cannon or not?

[@meathir4921]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but note taking isn't allowed in YGO outside of mandatory triggers to maintain gamestate (eg you can take a note to resolve Destroyer Phoenix Enforcer coming back because it activated last turn). That said, it's really not a complicated simultaneous equation.

[@esrohm6460]

@@meathir4921 but what if you need to resolve 1 to get the banished cards so that you can get the banish effect of the second. then you not only need to do the equation as is but for the second one you lose certain ways of making the current card count. not impossible but just easier with notes, but holy shit of you cant take noters. thats like the most bare bones basic thing to do in a card game

[@meathir4921]

@esrohm6460 It's just how the game works. Yugioh is not MTG or Netrunner, note taking is strictly prohibited for recording info for example.

[@kuma9239]

Scary tcg moments: In the middle of the match, your opponent goes"let me look at this spreadsheet real quick".

[@jaimehernandez4962]

I need a damn formula cheat sheet.

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

I noticed someone in chat saying the might try the card in Dinomorphia. Problem here is Dinomorphia relies on the ED, the ED monsters are level 6s and 8s. So, you'd need extra trash cards in Dinomorphia that are better off being used for actually useful XYZs, alternative Fusion monsters, or even the Zarc package.

[@dragonofdesteny5767]

I find it weird we dont play the chimera fusions or SKull fusions. Since we can punishment dump those and then banish them for a cannon use later

[@mekahans3678]

Imma instantly surrender if i see someone play that trap

[@SheruMuko]

I was so expecting it to be Mathmech Lab

[@Practicalinvestments]

SIMPLIFIED FORMULA FOR EVERYONE: Formula’s 1: Fusion Lv = 2x(Monster Lv) - CoF XyZ rank = CoF - Monster Lv (CoF = Total Cards on Field and in Hands) Formulas 2: 2x(Monster Lv) - CoF = Fusion (CoF - Fusion)/2 = XyZ I find the first formula the fastest but either should work

[@widchaponjearaphunt5452]

oh this one isn't liner, it easier to use, just build extra deck around, but Liner is hard one

[@philwendisch4894]

The question is: how can we use this in the paleozoic deck ? And how would the thumbnail be looking like?

[@hoshi314]

I'm gonna need to make a simplified chart to use this card LOL

[@jkid1134]

Mathmech I sleep, pure math real shit

[@SSCJCASE]

You're telling me that not only do I have to read but now I have to do maths?

[@ProtossTempest]

Not just maths. Algebra. Mrs. Hernandez was right?!! It would come back to haunt us one day!!

[@cypheriaty1510]

You can replace Dogmatika Punishment for Terror of the Afterroot. While the cards is not a minus 1, 2, 3 like Punishment, you can summon something from their GY that is legal for SEC, or Torrential tribute to pop off their field. And a nopt non target banish is good anyway.

[@Nex123]

next thing you know, he would be adding Transmission gear

[@gumbspleengle5270]

This card is insanely funny in numeron bc u dont need to banish or to do maths and you can sunya for significantly more damage if u banish acid golem and like hugin or smth and then dont return anything

[@carlosmtraverzo3121]

I haven’t use so much math since high school

[@MizuAstrum91]

Luke Tyler, the GOAT

[@liviousgameplay1755]

If only there was a good generic Void S/T, infernoid Evil as the level 1 could add it to hand on banish/punishment send

[@weckar]

This mostly made me realize how bad nats coverage was. Remember when viewers got a display with both players' cards in hand?

[@bl00by_]

Wasn't the last time they did it in like 2019?

[@weckar]

@@bl00by_ Maybe? Covid made things weird.

[@arbitrary5226]

will this be on the test?

[@dudeguy8686]

So, L + 2R = T L + R = O ..? Key: (L)evel of Fusion, (R)ank of Xyz, (T)otal number of cards in hand and on field, (O)pponent's monster's level. Then, if the first equation can be solved by monsters in the Extra, and the second equation solved by banished monsters (after solving the first equation), the card can resolve. I think.

[@kechitiabderrahmane6357]

Yes The hardest part is assimilation the correct combo of T and O to be able to activate this card in the first place, which is a job your opponent does for you So it can be considered a torture card just like floodgates

[@dudeguy8686]

@@kechitiabderrahmane6357 I suppose they all torture both players, at the same time, eh? "I gotta do math, you gotta banish everything, we both ache"

[@kechitiabderrahmane6357]

@@dudeguy8686 no I meant he needs to play around it (since the player who used this card mentioned that 1 opponent kept playing around it the entire match, so SEC was always set)

[@SiNKarnage]

2x + y = A x = Rank of Banished Xyz y = Level of Fusion A = # cards total in Hands and on Field Now say your opponent has a level 7 monster but there 9 cards in hands/fields. You'd need to banish Two Rank 2s and One Level 5 to meet the criteria in order to Banish your opponents field. So if your opponent has an Odd Number monster their has to be an Odd number of cards in hand and field to banish it and vice versa for Even Number monster unless your fighting Sprights or Purrlys then youre SOL

[@thepoweroftheweed2215]

Resolving SEC in a IRL tournament has the same emergy as those 5Ds characters (team Taiyo) being the first to ever summom Zushin the Sleeping Giant

[@alexemp6201]

This is NOT what I need before my math exam and the last time I'll touch math ever in my life before I go to college lmfao (tomorrow's gonna be so stressful but I hope it's over soon)

[@colomarox5386]

You’re French ?

[@alexemp6201]

@@colomarox5386 no? I'm italian. Why do you ask?

[@Oloistogamersloungeeistepisogl]

@@alexemp6201 Probably cause he wants to date your Sister

[@louis_cyphre_69420]

@@alexemp6201 in bocca al lupo per la maturità

[@alexemp6201]

@@louis_cyphre_69420 grazie mille

[@kosigisa]

I hope when this card comes to MD it holds my hand when it does the math

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

I can see that happening. Kinda like small world sounds complicated but it really easy to use in MD

[@years-gq6dy]

Here's the general equation: (assuming you ignore your other faceup banished Fusion and Xyz monsters) Let f = Lvl of Fusion (f > 0) x = Rank of Xyz (x > 0) H = # of cards on hand and field for both players L = Lvl/Rank of 1 of your opponent's monster f + 2x = H f + x = L So t x = H-L f = L-x (or 2L - H) note that x,f should be greater than 0

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

This deck is so funny XD

[@Kawaiisikkusu]

MathTech

[@manuelsalazar4373]

So is this playable with Floowandereeze?

[@simonkwok736]

we have mx+c=0 and ax^2+by+c=0,. aside from the higher orders, next time we can have differentiation and integration. It is still about SAT level maths

[@manjackson2772]

Find the area under the curve of my hand slapping your shit

[@258thHiGuy]

But I thought there were no EU events

[@badkyat4life]

The card needs to be limited to 1

[@yamizakygo5869]

sanest mathmech player

[@LIGHTLORD_MASTA_RAWRGER]

More cards you gotta cross out 😅😅😅

[@BigCheechin]

Freezing curses should’ve been droplet ngl because it stops puppet lock

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

Nah freezing curses is better, bc you don't have to discard and you can summon hugin to block duster

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

POST THE SPREADSHEET

[@paulkrex8129]

Use this with transaction rollback at locals and see new players quit the instant you try to explain the scenario

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

Doesn't this only have the return effect with rollback? so you would need to already have banished fusions and xyz. on the plus side you wouldn't have to worry about cards in hand or field

[@paulkrex8129]

@@user-wx6ms9rv2m nah actually its easy because there is no ; symbol , so no cost i guess which means that you just apply the effect of equation cannon. But explaining both cards to a new player for one interaction might let them freak out

[@areono460]

I love me trap decks yum

[@gungnir382]

I miss Thomas Rose 🌹

[@solobugg5087]

Wait this is not that complicated, the values literally fill themselves. Say F = Fusion's level X = Xyz's rank C = Cards total in hand and field M = Monster's level on field All you have to do is find C and pick a monster on field for M. The difference, C - M, tells you what Rank to banish (X). Multiply X by 2, subtract that from C, and that tells you what Fusion to banish (F). You never have to guess what to banish this way. Another thing is that you have to pick a monster on field so that 2M > C. Otherwise, you'll have to banish a Fusion with a level of 0 or negative, which isn't possible. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

[@crt137]

Love seeing people shocked when someone plays no Furniture. Trap Lab >> IKEA Lab

[@realzionygo]

You literally have to metagame to make Cannons work. There are limits on monster levels. There's a max # of card slots for field and hand. But this also depends on matchups, how your opponent plays, etc. If you could successfully play cannons, you can probably pilot DDD with ease. Lmao

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

This comment is funny, because both playing cannons and piloting DDD are not very hard

[@realzionygo]

@@user-wx6ms9rv2m go away bot.

[@MrFaKePotato-tm2li]

I dont see why he doesnt have a rank 2 and 2 more lvl 1 fusions. When is a board going to have 11 or more cards on it? I dont understand why he needed such high level xyz and fusion monsters.

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

Its including both players hands as well, and with the amount of searching that happens in modern decks, seeing over 10 cards total is very very common. High level xyz is for a high difference between total number of cards in hand and field and the level of the opponents monster. For example, lets say your opponent has a flamberge on field, and there are a total of 14 card on hand and fields (not uncommon when you think how much snake-eye can do with one card). You would need to banish 2 rank 6 xyz and a lvl 2 fusion. The fusion levels are simply to facilitate the xyz.

[@MrFaKePotato-tm2li]

@@user-wx6ms9rv2m Yup, you are 100% correct, I somehow blocked out the hand size in my thought process. My reading capabilities have truly peaked.

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

@@MrFaKePotato-tm2li It's ok, this is average for a yugioh player :)

[@sinmethodical1837]

You got to monsters with 0 rank

[@giftedhippos]

I played this card in metaphys... this version is much better

[@dominikholzknecht8573]

runick is actually a really old tech in Lab, you played that even before big welcome was out, but to be fair, Lab wasn't a good deck before big welcome so why even talk about it?! XD

[@LS-qs9ju]

Runick and Lab are on the same set, it's not really out of realm of possibility that people try to combine both.

[@kppmusic923]

Based for calling it Maths instead of "Math"

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

The CORRECT spelling

[@stubbornpotatogaming6220]

Red Supernova is way easier to pull off than this card. Let's say both players have 14 cards in the field and in the hand, So the player banish Garura(Level 6), Abyss Dweller (Rank 4), and Dugares (Rank 4). the player can banish those cards, and return 1 of each Fusion and XYZ, (Their level and rank sums up theoretically to 10, and the opponent theoretically has a Bystial Dis Pater which is a level 10 synchro). The opponent then banishes all cards they control.

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

This card is not hard with a basic understanding of maths

[@stubbornpotatogaming6220]

@@user-wx6ms9rv2m, Its not that the card is hard to pull off because of the math, it's the dedication to strategy that is hard, all of the extra deck should be committed for the effect to pull off. Timing with the right quantity of cards present is also another thing as well.

[@stubbornpotatogaming6220]

@@user-wx6ms9rv2m It's really the resource commitment and timing.

[@user-wx6ms9rv2m]

@@stubbornpotatogaming6220 I'm aware it requires the extra deck space, but this is trap labrynth, so that isn't a big concern. Timing isn't very hard with proper thought as well