How to beat Ryzeal and Maliss

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

What deck are you going to use this format?

[@firebrandygo]

Playing Salamangreat this format and I'm loving it. Thanks for the advice on Ryzeal I'll change my deck accordingly. This was a great video and more like this would be nice.

[@duelistzach]

Personally gonna be on Memento. Dark Blade alone forces out so much interaction from Ryzeal, and the deck as a whole can play so much gas that it can push through Ryzeal’s end boards.

[@vidkarlic7770]

Machina 😎

[@NyxDemiseMusic]

Red Dragon Archfiend, or Spirit Charmer Dogmatika

[@brittis_n3xus]

I'm currently piloting Maliss, but its a version that isnt common here in the TCG. I am a fan of chaos space with the smaller chaos-like cards (valkyria, chaos creator, levianeer, etc.) so testing around with that. it is weaker to lancea, but against most oppositions (even the mirror match) its very well positioned and interactive, and fun!

[@ReeceSantana]

The fact choke points exist again and also not actually turbo dying if they hit the choke points is such great design

[@contagious_noob3651]

This is why ive always loved unchained yeah i can play through handtraps but generally my board will be worse when i do. Wow interaction from the opponent actually matters and the games fun imagine that Konami lol

[@Hirokal72]

Bro was so done with MD tenpai format he started cookin up a ryzeal vid right after dropping Chundra DC

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

💯

[@NinthSettler]

Grinding this MD format is a fool's errand. It's the least i've played since MD release. It's so dogshit, that it got me back into magic, hardcore. Helps a lot that Magic (standard) is pretty healthy, and limited (foundations) is exquisite, and one of the best limited experiences ever.

[@colossaldonut5190]

Tenpai DC is my favourite

[@ccjl9160]

Probably the worst MD format since launch format, and maybe it's worse than even that

[@BlackBeartic229]

@@ccjl9160 I haven't played MD in ages but if you're saying that then it must be horrendous cuz launch had Carrier Herald Drytron, VFD turbo and Eldlich stun LMAO.

[@PeTr0o0L]

I feel like at a core, the problem with snake eye was the value of extenders as starters. Picture this: Aleister searches invocation, meltdown searches aleister. If you draw them together then that still counts as 1 actual play and if your aleister gets negated you have no access to invocation anymore. Now to flip the script a little. Imagine if meltdown could search aleister OR invocation. Now if you open meltdown and aleister together, you can easily do what 1 aleister normally does through 1 imperm. This is the main issue imo with snake eyes. Opening a hand of bonfire, wanted, and snakeye ash all individually do the entire combo by themselves except through 1 handtrap, each starter is an extender that fully nullifies the handtrap. Pair that with an end board that’s near impossible to break consistently and you have what 2024 was essentially. This isn’t as much of an issue with ryzeal. Even a full combo is breakable, and a choke point exists. Overall honestly looking forward to 2025 formats.

[@141dandy]

As someone who stopped playing the game back when links came out, came back and saw all my old fundamentals were useless, videos like this help a lot. So yes, please make more!

[@Harrowing999]

I love the Ryzeal deck even more than I expected to. It’s not difficult to play against and even playing the deck is super fun because it doesn’t do anything oppressive nor does it get blown out (aside from Barrier). Games can go for multiple turns and it’s so much more fun to play now

[@ArseneLisandro]

À bit expensive but not too much

[@mrevilducky]

It's a very linear deck

[@friskydrinklunkybank1108]

​@mrevilducky nothing wrong with that. What matters is both side are able to interact with each other

[@vincedehaven8139]

You’re one of my favorite KZbinr’s to watch. Your knowledge of the game is just unmatched

[@Powerman293]

Unfortunately Imperm and Purge are the only Handtraps that can hit the Duodrive, as all my Ryzeal opponents have protagonist powers and just hard draw the field spell.

[@whendelgabriel6772]

not even imperm, since they can still open crossout

[@AuthorTheIdiot]

I do not think it will actually work. Because if they detach 1 material for the Field Spell to negate Ash/Veiler et cetera, they won't have 2 materials to detach for search. And, given how Ryzeal usually plays, they do not have another Xyz/Ryzeal in GY when they use Duo Drive.

[@OsirusHandle]

you can always lava golem them

[@yutawirasena]

Honestly might as well playing board breakers since ryzeal is so resilient to HT

[@Endershock1678]

@@yutawirasena Once Twins of the Eclipse hits TCG, they are gonna be resiliant to breaker too.

[@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw]

Tbh, I still hate playing into Detonator. Imo we're simply not accounting for the raw board control Detonator gives you. It doesn't matter if you're not negating when your opponent simply can't keep anything on board. Detonator quite simply forces you to just spin your wheels without going anywhere unless you open exactly Imperm or Droplet. We also didn't mention the monster negate on Cross, which gets super annoying IF you can get past the 3rd pop PLUS the Aggregator. The raw amount of gas you need to push through a Ryzeal end board is just way too much imo entirely bc Detonator isn't a opt, and none of this is even accounting for the Fiendsmith engine (no Fiendsmith is not the problem here. I just don't like none opt destruction that can protect itself). I played Ryzeal for a few hours and honestly I just don't understand how going DuoDrive -> Detonator -> pass every game is fun. I don't enjoy the game states Detonator creates, I think Detonator specifically IS very oppressive just in ways that aren't explicitly in your face like Snake-Eyes or Yubel. Ironically the most enjoyable games I've had against Ryzeal was playing Yubel because playing 20 hand traps on both sides of the table forced the game into a more interesting game state than finding a way to produce infinite material through 3 pops, a monster negate, and what's effectively an omni in Aggregator. Genuinely I think Maliss is more fun to play with and against even under Shifter. Maybe it's a hot take, maybe it's a skill issue, or even just bad match ups into the decks I like. Regardless, I personally have had nothing but complaints about Ryzeal. Negating DuoDrive does not in any way fix how stupid of a card Detonator is imo.

[@colossaldonut5190]

The biggest benefit is the new packs actually feel somewhat good to pull from.

[@chlorophyll1767]

I honestly really like the reprints of old staples as pack filler in CRBR. pull rates for the archetypes themselves aren't great but as a relatively new player I'm certainly not gonna complain about getting a ton of Tenyis, Dotscaper, Exciton Knight etc

[@lhv2k]

One important thing to note in order to beat Ryzeal consistently is to know the cards very very well, so that you can NOTICE ILLEGAL PLAYS That's the real thing with Ryzeal, their cards have certain "hidden locks" that tend to get ignored or forgotten by players that end up making illegal plays or even deliberate cheating unnoticed, and the deck allow that to happen. I've seen players pivot into FS combo after ss Ryzeal from hand and being locked into rank 4, or special summon some Ryzeals despite not meeting the ss condition, like ss Sword from hand despite not having any Ryzeal on field or GY, because almost everyone just auto assume you can ss them for free, or attacking with non-xyz monsters after using Plugin, etc etc. In OCG they even won a YCS by making Detonator with a Ryzeal + Fuwalos, just pure cheating. Ryzeal is a deck that is filled with a lot of illegal plays potential, especially in tournaments after many rounds and people are tired, and can happen to both the player and opponent that allow those plays to happen unnoticed, so be extremely mindful against them, and learn their effects very thoroughly

[@UmDevoto]

Good point

[@dasNeroLP]

Thanks for this amazing video. The fact that i can play more engine makes me so incredibly happy. The old Snake Eye, Yubel and Tenpai format felt so god damn hit or miss cause of the amount of handtraps, that i had to play. Thats also something that makes T2, T3 or Rogue Decks way more viable and fun to play.

[@Raphael4722]

A lot of rogue decks die to Deadnader unless they draw a board breaker...

[@canesmailsadeh3992]

Thank you Josh. Your Content is Very Helpful and Nice to Look at it !!!

[@the_b_emoji]

Love how this video comes out as the OCG just hit them

[@easyygo3008]

And? Ocg is 4-5 months ahead in product cycle, they also overhit stuff

[@philbuttler3427]

I give it a month before everybody is bored playing Rank 4 Spam and Cyberse Combo that abuses shifter better than every other deck and saying this meta sucks. It just doesn't have the hallmarks of a truly good meta imo its just something that isn't SE or Tenpai rn.

[@Raphael4722]

It's not a skillful meta for sure. But skillful metas are often hated by the playerbase. They tend to be high power and reduce diversity.

[@ShinerCCC]

this format is defined entirely by non engine and as a pendulum player i kind of hate that

[@zjweele13]

Ghost Ogre is better than it seems at first glance against Ryzeal. If they go fiendsmith first and end on d/d/d and you ogre the duo drive, they still have to resolve it and get the materials from the d/d/d

[@ChaosNo65SolarWind]

I cannot understate how nice it is that Josh highlights the positives of the format and not just the negatives. Doomposting is easy content, but expressing justified eagerness to play is refreshing.

[@twobrosgamers8426]

Mans drops this video the day that Ryzeal gets murdered on the OGC

[@ManyTanks1]

I wouldn’t say it got murdered, but the hits it received were very significant in nature

[@dudono1744]

The Ryzeal discussion reminds me of Drytron Mu Beta Fafnir.

[@Isabelleadshead6917]

i absolutely adoreeee this format, yugioh ending the year on an amazing note 2025 is looking incredibly bright see you all at birmingham ycs!!

[@Duelerama90]

Best of luck qualifying for MD Worlds again, champ. The determination & stamina this weekend was admirable. And yes @ 16:45

[@jesunjay]

As a Ghoti enjoyer, seeing people starting to look into Lancea makes me sad. I feel that the Maliss stance is going to change VERY fast with the pending Cyverse support, not looking forward to that.

[@azaizer]

Out of curiosity since I'm interested in your mindset as a higher level player and how you roll. I've noticed watching your videos that you don't seem to have a lot of highest rarity types of cards like QCSR etc. when you discuss cards and builds. 1) Do you have more of a preference to just play the game and not collect? Perhaps a reason it seems you highly favor playing the digital card game version of Master Duel? 2) Or do you also collect but just don't play higher rarities due to their value and instead opt to play only lower rarity forms of cards? On a final note, you never cease to blow my mind on how analytically you are able to decipher the meta across various formats. I'm sure it takes a lot of practice and time getting familiar with everything in the game. Definitely helps the community when someone of your caliber does the research and breaks everything down so the rest of us can simply copy your homework lol. It comes at no surprise you're one of GOATs at this game!

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

I dont particularly care about high rarity, I have some older stuff in higher rarity for my time wizard decks that i’m nostalgic about, but for current formats I just use whatever I can get my hands on as long as the rarities match 😇

[@azaizer]

@@JoshuaSchmidtYGO Ah, I see. Appreciate the response! Guess it's personal preference then, lol. It's probably the more cost effective way to play through the meta for sure since cards are always constantly rotating on and off of the banlist, etc. Granted I'm as Yugi boomer as it gets, considering my more competitive days were way back in the 2002-2005 and back then I use to do the same thing, was more worried about getting whatever version of the cards I could get vs collecting the cards in 1st edition and card condition. Although, back in those days there wasn't as much rarity variety as there is nowadays. However, I came to regret NOT collecting more now because of how much value the older card sets have shot up over the years. So it's probably why I can't help myself and do BOTH this time around getting a bit more back into the game again for the past few years. I find that no matter how many times I go in and out of the game, I'll never shake my love for it whether I choose to be competitive or just collect.

[@yancicolon]

I love this format too! And great vid 🔥

[@Elbsolut]

In Anaheim Chalice was played by a Top 32 maliss palyer to hit the whitebinder in the mirror. Do you think it is worth playing over droplet or worth in general?

[@arthurboy355]

Hello Joshua, I hope you’ll see this message or that someone will reply to me. I have a friend who plays Heroes with the new Evil Heroes; he has really optimized the deck, and I find it very strong. How come it’s still not on the tier lists?

[@1stOptimusPrime]

Great stuff, keep it up!!

[@MattyNaps1997]

I have been enjoying Bystial Fiendsmith at Locals and a regional. Really been having a lot of success with Ghost Belle this format against both Maliss and Ryzeal.

[@MrJmc484]

What do you think about book of eclipse in Ryzeal? Better or worse than droplet, talent and thrust against Maliss and the mirror?

[@spyronanya6790]

What do you think about Ryu-ge

[@zorcnecro6910]

Does ryzeal even hit duo drive + detonator ? I dont think there are any targets for that

[@jharrensaint-pierre6615]

Ryzeal hit already in ocg is wild

[@chitahitsu4743]

they aint waifus so...

[@Nero-hm1gi]

Probably because of the handloop combo with the new heraldic cards

[@wardy4903]

"Already" they've been dominating for half a year and the ocg notoriously makes mistakes on their lists that they always have to immediately walk back on.

[@hellominna4784]

​​@@wardy4903 Funny for you to say half a year when raizeol came out in OCG in late August this year. Guess spreading misinformation is your strong suit.

[@Gabylepoypoy]

​@@Nero-hm1giimo they should have just hit ouroboros

[@yugiMOWS]

Snake eye where every card is a starter and an extender

[@trippersigs2248]

The decks damn near unplayable in tcg right now. wdym?

[@MaexxLoL]

​@@trippersigs2248they needed to take away 11 cards from them (by limiting 2 and ban 1) to achieve it

[@yugiMOWS]

@trippersigs2248 was just agreeing with him on what it was like before and tbh good riddance

[@mangavore7426]

How good is: -Shifter - Kaiju - Ultimate Slayer Been playing Battlewasps since the last set of support and it feels SO good! Ngl, I do run a high engine count because it really raises the ceiling, but I’m trying to figure out what best to tech in. I’m guessing Retaliating C isn’t as good as it was in Snake Eyes format (Malice actively benefits from it, and doesn’t really run cards to trigger it) so I’m cutting that to 1. Deck can easily search a Kaiju, plus it runs 1 of every ED card type, so Slayer is really good. Thrust is also quite good (obviously Talents, but also can search Armed Rebeelion, which is your best starter,) but it’s hard to justify the space allocation. I have limited non-engine space, so trying to maximize my options that also work with the deck. Thoughts?

[@Raphael4722]

Ultimate Slayer is incredible, Kaijus aren't great because they can just use Plug-In.

[@Micho800]

What's your opinion on Ghost Belle against Maliss. You can save it for your turn and not play into thrust, Belle the revive trap

[@shizo66]

im working on a dogmatika/diabellestar sorta stun deck

[@pieoverlord]

So I'm guessing that once they hit MD, Maliss will be the more potent one, since its answers are more specific.

[@Toadflax6869]

Whats your opinion on Spright in the current format?

[@ShinerCCC]

plays great into D/D/D High Caesar

[@Endershock1678]

It's a good budget option.

[@ShinerCCC]

my thoughts on this format: why are Ryzeal players playing 18+ handtraps instead of some extenders like Dynatherium or Performages to make Rafflesia, so they can insulate Duodrive using Gravedigger's Trap Hole? for Maliss, use Ash Blossom on White Binder and targeted negation on Splash Mage or Transcode Talker. might be a good format for kaijus/Lava Golem, just squish Detonator or Terahertz, Druiswurm sort of accomplishes the same thing

[@masterphipf]

What about fenrir? How is vs both decks?

[@Endershock1678]

Decent enough vs Ryzeal, can maybe force out a field spell use or a detonator, does hot nothing vs Mal.

[@TheEchantingTurtle]

What about evenly matched?

[@anthonyancoundiagilberttol7416]

U dont think if you use a belle on reborn trap, against maliss is a really good shock point?

[@OsirusHandle]

droll also lets them use the 2 bodies for smth else whereas spot negate uses up both bodies

[@lifequality]

I agree. I do believe Ryzeal and Maliss are metadecks that allow other decks to breathe, because - as you said - have weaknesses that decks could focus on. The decks or deck of the format always make the other follow suit. If they promote a healthy meta, the meta will be much more approachable by different strategies. And I prefer this much more rather than having crazy SE wiping everything. If this would be sth Konami would actively try to promote, a healthy metagame, we would see much higher numbers of people actually attending events again. Personally I know plenty of guys that would come back to the game if these balanced decks were the standard.

[@terra221]

any good budget decks this format? Tried out SEFK for a month but obviously that's gone now..

[@rehberg.]

Ryzeal reminds me of sword soul. Not in play style but impact on the meta and ushering in a new wave of power. Sword soul dropped and it was the best deck, but it wasn’t overwhelming. The deck didn’t even get ban list hits to the core (Ik needlefiber was a key part to the strategy but the deck could still do its thing without it) it was just power crept out of the meta. Ryzeal feels that way. It’s not an overpowered or overwhelming deck. It does just enough to function at a top tier and it’s nice to have a deck that introduces a more healthy meta.

[@yunogasai5479]

Trust me , i'm actually playing Maliss and i just got hurt with Lightning Storm + Evenly and i got totally destroyed 😢

[@kappamaster7179]

This is so gonna change when both of those decks get their support lol.

[@lilsunny7399]

I can tell you right now from getting 2nd at Locals with Maliss yesterday....yes Nibiru at the right point is a brutal hit. It kinda forces you to play Link Spider in the extra and hope you have an extender to make splash mage into red ransom or white binder depending on what else you have. if you can then you might be able to piece together something but it won't be as impressive, if not then you're stuck on a token and a prayer. I had code of soul in hand so i was able to make *something* but i still lost that match 0-2 against Azamina Orcust. He won the tournament btw.

[@julienfrey6808]

Do you think maliss has the potential to become the new snake eyes with its 2nd and 3rd wave then ?

[@paulkrex8129]

What i like the most about those decks is that konami might have enough evidence to ban sus shifter and harpies feather storm

[@vonguyenkhoa7836]

I dont know why but when I droll, ryzeal player always scoop if they cant negate it

[@username2904]

I don't have a deck this format, both the decks I played got killed by the OSS hit

[@jj985955]

Where do I get the blue playmat used in this video?

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

it was the participation mat for YCS London in like 2018, don’t think it can be obtained anywhere anymore but if you search for it online you should be able to find it somewhere

[@jj985955]

@@JoshuaSchmidtYGO Thanks!

[@lustigerkeks3]

No mention of ghost belle against malis to negate the reborn trap on your turn?

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

that works, however it still does not solve the problem of them having a Bystial as extender to invalidate the Belle completely since they just banish the White Binder to get it back anyways, if you wanted to prevent that you’d have to use Belle on Binder’s effect

[@pascalwolf6249]

Should I still main Shifter?

[@Philicious]

How does Impulse stop Duo Drive ??

[@roberttucker3194]

I disagree with this though, because the problem is Ryzeal is a deck that can run 18 one card starters to either fiendsmith or ryzeal, and still runs 20 hand traps, so saying we are entering into a less hand trap format is entirely incorrect. Ryzeal is absolutely the deck to beat this format, and the problem is even if you stop the duo drive, the detonator having 3 pops plus a monster negate in one body that has battle and effect destruction protection is more than oppressive enough to stop anyone from playing the game, especially behind 2-4 hand traps.

[@damianrogowski5519]

could you make a dark world deck profile as a champion

[@Plag-Dmon98]

I'm really liking all 3*** decks from crossover breakers, but I'm particularly Maliss pilled out of the 3, though I've been trying to drum up some weird rank 4 themed Ryzeal decks Ryu-Ge is a cool concept but it's a little lacking in it's own wincon and does better as a side-engine for any of the 3 types the monsters are, basically glorified Dyno, Wyrm and Sea serpent support imo

[@Ovasiig]

Honestly I’m so excited to play gladiator beasts next month. We are so fucking back. First full year being a woman and we’re gonna be running it with my first ever competitive deck when I was a kid. This format is shaping up a lot better than it’s been

[@emptysky0039]

Fashion victim.

[@Ovasiig]

@ what does that even mean?

[@dominic7100]

My least favorite part of the last few formats was you either won or lost by the first interaction

[@asafpm8196]

Now we wait 3 months for new support to come out and make both decks unplayable against with a turn 0 full combo on standby phase

[@jayduel7897]

If we can just tone down the hyper generic engines everyone is almost required to play (fiendsmith,azamina,kash) and actually let us be able to play the decks we’re trying to play, it would be the perfect format

[@sbylol8366]

I love this format, but maliss feels so unbeatable if you don't hard draw the lancea

[@contagious_noob3651]

I clicked on this video just to hear someone say the names right after wanting to cut my ears off watching dkayeds recent video

[@adamkruchkow902]

Crossout & Called By are stains upon what would otherwise be a reasonable format. The odds of opening either one is > 40%, and the meta decks have room for basically every target.

[@thenickrider02]

I love this format, malice and ryzeol are the top decks but they are not unbeatable or without weaknesses and there is room for other decks to play, i am playing goblin bikers for example because the ryzeol matchup is very good and because of the multitude of layered interaction they can make. My only complain about the format are the mulcharmys, there was absolutely no need for 6 not OPT maxx cs locked behind a huge paywall

[@theizzidor1319]

Imperial iron wall is also cracked vs Maliss. I play it in mermails. Its just insta win.

[@robertf1309]

Cherries could be really cool in the Ryzeal mirror match. But that's just copium though

[@mcf6185]

I would never play meta decks (or at least not play the most meta ones) but these Ryzeal cards look incredible ngl (they being very good is a nice bonus 😂) Won‘t get them though sadly haha

[@Lowzyuz]

Actually hand traps against malice really is quite strong depending on what you hit. You would want to use Imperm against white rabbit before a trap is set Ash against TB-11/White Binder when its summoning itself back

[@ShinerCCC]

why not imperm Splash Mage or Transcode Talker?

[@Lowzyuz]

@ShinerCCC In the OCG, Splash Mage and Transcode are rarely used unless the hand is very bricky. In an ideal play situation I would HT the above but otherwise Splash Mage/Transcode are good choices too!

[@Endershock1678]

@@Lowzyuz To add to your point, a lot of lists are cutting Transcode Talker entirely. It just doesnt come up, you'd rather just make the Mal Link 3s

[@naoneene]

it's clear that you are playing against a bad maliss player if they instantly lose to imperm rabbit or ash tb-11/white binder (or they are just brick on extender if imperm rabbit or dormouse works)

[@cloud2065]

And how to beat them, the benefit of Ryzeal Maliss format Am I reading this right? :(

[@Majin-Albert-]

Kash Fs till the day Ariseheart comes back Make kash great again in Germany we say Bruder dann wird rasiert

[@Alex-Omega]

You gonna have to wait so long, that its not worth it. Just accept that its over and learn how to play the game

[@unaffectedbycardeffects9152]

Hopefully tcg doesn't hit these decks particularly fast. They can really take their time for once

[@zeromaniac5210]

so you are saying branded is tear 1.,gotcha.

[@vampireguy92]

It's nice when decks aren't super oppressive and aren't playing 15+ handtraps. A nice back and forth game is fun. But it's not fun when 1 or both decks are playing a card like lancea and d barrier to just just get an auto win. Those cards shouldn't be in the game and it's dumb that Konami keeps making cards that oppress the opponent

[@Avermra]

I personally find Maliss way more frustrating to play against. We still don't have a HT that interacts with direct setting makes it risky to interact with White Binder and Rabbit. Their full board honestly feels just as layered as SE (not to Yubel extent) if you allow them to get there. And the fact that it -can- play Shifter, which for some reason is still at 3, causes even more non-game experience. I don't actually have a huge issue with Ryzeal, FS or not, despite the deck being stronger. At least the game experience is better. Maliss right now feels like maybe a weaker SE that can also Shifter you which is beyond annoying.

[@KingDae19]

Maliss honestly seems better to me than Ryzeal. Kinda bummed I went the Ryzeal FS route in hindsight

[@_Lukz]

@@KingDae19 In the long run, Maliss will lose tournaments because of Lancea (Besides, there is Thrust and we can easily set up Sanctur and look for Lancea). Ryzeal is better because there is no card that can beat it on its own.

[@canyouwavedash3298]

Ryzeal, the best ritual engine???

[@erichindy8688]

When Komoney is basically making the player base play either ryzeal or maliss by making everything else virtually unplayable is where the problem is. They didn't need to hit everything as hard as they did (except tenpai) because ryzeal and maliss are power creeping everything pretty hard as it is. They earned the name "Komoney" for a reason. It's like we don't have a problem with the format itself, we have a problem with Komoney and their greed filled business decisions. It's always only about the shareholders. Everyone else gets shafted.

[@Hawken123Phone]

Literraly full combo rayzeal or maliss is gg

[@francescocolanzi]

Accurate vid

[@graham713]

joshua schigma

[@jacobpieffle3030]

Format is amazing. If Lancea d barrier and shifter were all banned it would be perfect

[@John_Cass]

No entendí nada :(

[@anthonytrumble6076]

I bought dinos cuz I can't afford anything else

[@gnos4249]

Regarding Lancea against Maliss: can someone explain me why Lancea is considered fine and a "good thing for the game" but shifter is toxic and should be banned? To be clear: i think both are fine and a good thing for the game but i find kinda hypocritical that one is considered a good thing and the other a toxic card when they are both a lingering floodgate for some decks

[@foomf123]

They're both just as bad the only difference is d shifter is more oppressive towards like 80 percent of the decks in the game but lancea is niche

[@MarioLopez-xs3vc]

They're both annoying lingering floodgates, the difference is one lasts for 2 turns and requires an empty GY, while the other can be tributed from field OR hand, and has ways to set up both including setting/special summoning from deck.

[@gnos4249]

@@MarioLopez-xs3vc so you're saying that lancea is even a bigger offender than shifter? lol

[@Zerphy08]

take out a loan to buy charmies.

[@ShinerCCC]

just play Dark Hole if you need help going second

[@teamnecrocasters2210]

Back in the day we didn’t have a universal tool box of hand traps to counter everything. Once upon a time if Monarchs were meta then you played Mask of Restrict. If something banished then you played cards that prevented your opponent from banishing like Chaos Hunter. Nowadays the game revolves around instant reactions as opposed to counter play. “You can’t play Yugioh” is the best way to play! It’s like Uno minus the draws.

[@gungnir382]

Bro really looks tired 😨

[@f687sNFM]

Ryzeal is coin toss sim, the deck auto wins the match if they go first cuz dweller

[@lorenshone2373]

This format is ass because of handtraps not the decks change my mind

[@lorenzorafanelli278]

Snake eyes formats where worse

[@leekyonion]

This format has less hand traps than snake eyes format - confused on how that makes it more ass

[@lorenshone2373]

I beg to differ I just went to a regional and minimum handtraps was 15+ so again I repeat this format is ass because of it

[@lorenshone2373]

That's not less that's the same if not more

[@demonsofrazg]

snake-eye format was running 18+ hand traps tho. i’m not sure what your point is.

[@ThePrologic222]

0 views bro fell off