Journalists strike over Guardian's controversial deal to sell The Observer to Tortoise Media | LBC

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@kevingriffiths6113
@kevingriffiths6113 21 сағат бұрын
I am seriously baffled by this news, and also baffled by UK media completely ignoring it.
@d1sciple83
@d1sciple83 2 күн бұрын
I hadn't seen this news until this clip and I have to say, this is shameful. To sell in this way and at these terms with a closed process to a single bidder is utterly disgraceful. Hopefully the Guardian journalists standing up against this horrendous outcome are successful in changing the outcome.
@alistaircrooks2472
@alistaircrooks2472 2 күн бұрын
A legend in her own lifetime following her TED talk on the Brexit referendum
@aleph8888
@aleph8888 Күн бұрын
Thrown out by the courts in the Wilson case because there’s no evidence any of the allegations had a material effect on (changed) the result.
@taxpayer1040
@taxpayer1040 Күн бұрын
A late and very dear friend wrote for the Observer but it has long ceased being the authority it once was. With K. Viner (Mrs. A. Chiles) at the helm it has been more concerned with the sentiments of the Board of Deputies than the realities
@ikampbush1722
@ikampbush1722 12 сағат бұрын
I mean be disturbed, be cross. But since when do employees have a say if an owner decides dispose of an asset in any way they see fit?
@BoredomIncarnate1
@BoredomIncarnate1 3 сағат бұрын
Change has to start somewhere, businesses should be more beholden to their employees than their owners.
@ikampbush1722
@ikampbush1722 3 минут бұрын
Why? It’s not indentured service. Don’t like the new owners, just go work somewhere else.
@janeknight3597
@janeknight3597 2 күн бұрын
I am very unlikely to renew my subscription to the Guardian.
@chatham43
@chatham43 2 күн бұрын
@Jane So you're the one!
@WestermanT.
@WestermanT. 2 күн бұрын
It’s weird you think you cancelling your subscription is important enough to comment on here. I don’t think anyone has ever cared what you think and I doubt they ever will. Hope that helps
@RichardGallagherthesecond
@RichardGallagherthesecond 2 күн бұрын
​@@chatham43And you're the Daily Mail/Sun subscriber. 🤭😂
@RichardGallagherthesecond
@RichardGallagherthesecond 2 күн бұрын
​@@WestermanT. Oh, someone cares what op thinks. That's you, by replying. 🤭😂😂
@WestermanT.
@WestermanT. 2 күн бұрын
@RichardGallagherthesecond by that definition you care what I think, thanks for caring it’s much appreciated.
@ImagineMedia888
@ImagineMedia888 2 күн бұрын
No big surprise. The Guardian sold out years ago.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
Troll
17 сағат бұрын
It has to a certain extent sold out. It is not what it used to be politically, but that is my perception. You try and find a copy in Hull. It is possible if you go to Waitrose. Arguably it is speaking for London/ Brighton etc readers. But positively it still allows the poor in this country to read the news without a firewall, but every time I go there I am to a certain extent harassed to pay. They need the money, but those who cannot afford its relatively high price literally cannot afford to buy it on a daily basis.
@BubbleGendut
@BubbleGendut 2 күн бұрын
Didn’t realise the guardian had 5 million of subscribers money to throw away. Will reconsider my subscription
@proevilz
@proevilz Күн бұрын
The donations to The Guardian were mentioned here. For a few weeks, I had been messaging The Guardian to explain their donation panels on their articles. And in my opinion, I feel as though they're emotionally manipulating the public into donating, by making statements such as 'teams of lawyers' from the 'rich and powerful' are lobbying to stop stories coming out. But if you question who exactly these alleged people are, they'll refuse to tell you, outright. So much to the point that, communication stops being casual, to stone cold concise refusals, or 'I am not permitted to comment further', or words to that effect.
@AndyDrudy
@AndyDrudy 2 күн бұрын
Why? The Guardian makes a loss. In 2023 - £21 million. Anyone dumb enough to take it on is going to get what they deserve.
@stephenbrown4211
@stephenbrown4211 Күн бұрын
Like anyone who reads it deserve what they get.,
@thestevenjaywaymusic7775
@thestevenjaywaymusic7775 2 күн бұрын
This is sad. But, it is the modern world. Total control! This is not complicated, it is all about power and manipulation!
@SmokeroftheFuture-y5c
@SmokeroftheFuture-y5c Күн бұрын
@thestevenjaywaymusic7775 From what particular group of people in the world may I ask.... it's not complicated.
@nebube9
@nebube9 2 күн бұрын
Boykott.
@lesleywatson4494
@lesleywatson4494 Күн бұрын
Not sure where I will get my news from now but I will be stopping my support to the Guardian. This was not what I signed up for.
@Worldeaterosg
@Worldeaterosg Күн бұрын
Im surprised the guardian is still going at all, the gall of news papers to ask for a subscription😂😂
@riccardo-964
@riccardo-964 2 күн бұрын
I am not sure why but I enjoy listening to this lady.
@andybellklas1678
@andybellklas1678 2 күн бұрын
Not so lefty all about the worker after all.
@kevinhunter3473
@kevinhunter3473 2 күн бұрын
Bit like Reform
@stephenkent1102
@stephenkent1102 2 күн бұрын
Why? The words 'money' or 'peerage' spring to mind.
@purpleowl2075
@purpleowl2075 2 күн бұрын
'We don't know who the other investors are' - that's a lie, the other investors were listed in the Media Gazette
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
Name them!
@PleiadesImprezaT2000AWD-l4l
@PleiadesImprezaT2000AWD-l4l 2 күн бұрын
So what will happen is the Observer will change slowly over time into another right wing mouthpiece. Just as happened with the Express.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
The Daily Excess has been right-wing for over 50 years!
@gabiotta
@gabiotta 10 сағат бұрын
The Guardian gave up its credibility years ago. Traditional media is dead. Sadly.
@purpleowl2075
@purpleowl2075 2 күн бұрын
Where was Carol's heroism and outspokenness when the Nick Cohen scandal occurred? She stood firmly by him, at the expense of 7 women who were harassed by him
@nickm2483
@nickm2483 2 күн бұрын
She’s got lots of books
@graemebuchan8142
@graemebuchan8142 2 күн бұрын
Has never read a book... ironic!!
@BrendaSimmons-v9p
@BrendaSimmons-v9p Күн бұрын
Yes, lots and lots of them! 😂😂😂
@clario2178
@clario2178 Күн бұрын
All the rich virtue signallers who read it can pay for it .
@dougallwinship
@dougallwinship 2 күн бұрын
what practical steps we can take to assist?
@thomaseaves7567
@thomaseaves7567 2 күн бұрын
Get together with a few million like minded people and put in a counter bid.
@AndyDrudy
@AndyDrudy 2 күн бұрын
Well, The Guardian is projected to lose £39 million this year so there's a clue.
@brianquigley-je8kx
@brianquigley-je8kx 11 сағат бұрын
my heart bleeds
@brianquigley-je8kx
@brianquigley-je8kx 11 сағат бұрын
who knew 'the guardian' was on strike ? hope it stays on strike. nobody will notice.
@JohnHaveaguessGoogle
@JohnHaveaguessGoogle Күн бұрын
So they've gone on strike but so few people care that they've gone on strike they still don't get the hint...they've been irrelevant for years already.
@Themanwithnoname386
@Themanwithnoname386 15 сағат бұрын
Brilliant 😊
@peter-hy3rp
@peter-hy3rp 19 сағат бұрын
For a long time now The Guardian has put a lot more focus on its Australian and American content, than it has on UK news and opinion. A strategic decision to move away from UK audiences would make selling an ostensibly British title, a coherent decision. I can't think if any other reason.
@theartyone
@theartyone Күн бұрын
I can't find that Podcast anywhere... can anyone point me in the right direction?
@batbrewer3756
@batbrewer3756 22 сағат бұрын
All hail the best journalist (CC), and for that matter the best political interviewer (JOB), currently working in the UK. Gonna be reviewing my Guardian subscription when the dust has settled. Some nefarious BS going on here, demanding much more explanation and transparency.
@RichardStephens-bt6or
@RichardStephens-bt6or 4 сағат бұрын
4 days pay = substantial loss does anyone remember the Miners strike?
@voodoochile333
@voodoochile333 2 күн бұрын
What are the BBC going to do now?
@RobertThomson-y4m
@RobertThomson-y4m 2 күн бұрын
Indeed. Where will they get their news from?
@kularamardip
@kularamardip Күн бұрын
Carole is a hero and a true patriot.
@adrianlloyd6403
@adrianlloyd6403 55 минут бұрын
100 celebrities and James O'Brien signing a petition........the uselessness of celebrity endorsements was well illustrated with Harris and her presidential campaign.People generally don't care what celebrities think on matters like that.
@wilko-e4j
@wilko-e4j Күн бұрын
Sums it up. A 100 celebrities have signed a letter. No one cares 😂
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall Күн бұрын
😂
@jcmc9378
@jcmc9378 16 сағат бұрын
The world will end not with a bang, but a whimper
@RD210
@RD210 2 күн бұрын
Main stream journalism is dead
@simongreaves9465
@simongreaves9465 4 сағат бұрын
Sounds like the Guardian is finally admitting reality and preparing itself for closure
@theainanimate1661
@theainanimate1661 2 күн бұрын
If the Guardian and Observer's staff wanted us to care they should've have spent the last few years pushing more against the transphobic opinion pieces regularly being pushed in both
@voodoochile333
@voodoochile333 2 күн бұрын
Probably because facts Trump your feelings.
@will121
@will121 2 күн бұрын
The Guardian is the home of Trans. Perhaps you missed it, Female Journalist left as they were unable to discuss the subject.
@peterjohnson1091
@peterjohnson1091 2 күн бұрын
You mean incite hate​@@will121
@yetidodger6650
@yetidodger6650 2 күн бұрын
@@voodoochile333 yeah like you lot appreciate facts ffs.
@Gordon.Pinkerton
@Gordon.Pinkerton 2 сағат бұрын
​@will121 what is the female journalists name?
@danmayberry1185
@danmayberry1185 21 сағат бұрын
Guardian online (Canada) is the most aggressive canvasser for donations and subscription fees. It must haemorrhage money in order for it not to be viable.
@Yossarian_Lives73
@Yossarian_Lives73 22 сағат бұрын
Maybe Guardian / Observers stance against Jeremy Corbyn was a pyrrhic victory. The UK we now all inhabit was built in part by the Guardian / Observer well done.
@TheDogsbollocks925
@TheDogsbollocks925 Күн бұрын
The BBC are the only subscribers lol.
@Sairfecht
@Sairfecht 9 сағат бұрын
They best get posting in the Bluesky bubble.
@grogery1570
@grogery1570 Күн бұрын
This sounds a lot like a novel written about a former baseball player buying the New York Yankee's. When the player buys the team the sale is financed by the sellers who want a profitable entity off their books to avoid a tax liability. The sale isn't a true sale but more of a lease, after a year the team is returned to it's original owners and the player is given any change in value minus interest plus profits made by the team. I suspect that the Observer will be returned to the people who organized the sale on a similar basis in a years time. In other words management steals an asset from owners and avoids tax on the sale.
@Gordon.Pinkerton
@Gordon.Pinkerton 2 сағат бұрын
What's this novel called?
@julian987r4
@julian987r4 2 күн бұрын
“Our beloved title” 😂
@darkedge4011
@darkedge4011 2 күн бұрын
I like the Guardian it truly is independent but I could imagine managing their staff would be somewhat a nightmare some of the most entitled, virtue signalling people on the planet 😂
@eddiecalderone
@eddiecalderone 2 күн бұрын
@darkedge4011 Truly independent?
@Skygrey2943
@Skygrey2943 2 күн бұрын
​@eddiecalderone Maybe not, but it's better than getting the Murdoch or Viscount Rothmere spin on current events.
@purpleowl2075
@purpleowl2075 2 күн бұрын
You're not wrong - to add insult to injury, many are deeply amoral, but virtue-signal as 'damage control'
@SmokeroftheFuture-y5c
@SmokeroftheFuture-y5c Күн бұрын
@darkedge4011 Oh dear, The Guardian is the number one publication promoting the New World order agenda coming down from the very top.... just so you know they all do because they're owned by the same small group of media moguls, guess what group that people that is.
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall Күн бұрын
​@@Skygrey2943or the Biased Broadcasting Corporation
@md0u80a2
@md0u80a2 2 күн бұрын
I genuinely don’t get what the story is here. Don’t businesses buy and sell assets all the time.
@apkk5594
@apkk5594 2 күн бұрын
The Guardian is owned by a non profit trust that exists to maintain the editorial independence of the guardian and observer. The group is one of the few newspapers still owned within the UK.
@md0u80a2
@md0u80a2 2 күн бұрын
@ but they have to exist as a viable not for profit business - surely this Is a business decision is it not?
@jcmc9378
@jcmc9378 16 сағат бұрын
A free and independent media is an essential component of a democracy. Without that media there is no democracy
@stephenbrown4211
@stephenbrown4211 Күн бұрын
One thing correct. Guardian and Observer (who reads that) journalists haven’t got a clue.
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 2 күн бұрын
Someone's willing to PAY to take on a dying brand? Take the money and RUN.
@Gordon.Pinkerton
@Gordon.Pinkerton 2 сағат бұрын
Did you listen to the video? Tortoise Media isn't paying for The Observer. In fact, the trust that runs The Guardian will be giving Tortoise Media £5m to fund investment in The Observer. As for "dying brand", the video also makes it clear that The Observer is the part of the business that turns a profit.
@drbennyboombatz9195
@drbennyboombatz9195 Күн бұрын
"we can see what he did in America and we are vulnerable", I honestly don't know what she's saying here? What laws is she on about that need to be tightened?
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall Күн бұрын
Foreign ownership of our media.
@davidjamesaustin
@davidjamesaustin 8 сағат бұрын
They must be super left wing
@Nosh_Feratu
@Nosh_Feratu 23 сағат бұрын
this stinks to high heaven
@thomaswilson5707
@thomaswilson5707 4 сағат бұрын
Oh no.. I wont get to read out of touch woke guardian writers. Thank you for getting celebrity endorsements.. they will definitely impact my thinking .. just like they for Kamala 🤡
@mr.mayhem7402
@mr.mayhem7402 2 күн бұрын
Journalists not to lie until their terms are met.
@ChrisKeziahHyde
@ChrisKeziahHyde 2 күн бұрын
If the guardian goes out of print where will I get my toilet roll from? 🤣
@voodoochile333
@voodoochile333 2 күн бұрын
Lol
@valeriemay7391
@valeriemay7391 2 күн бұрын
Try The Sun or The Daily Mail.
@bdizzle9586
@bdizzle9586 2 күн бұрын
Your benefit statement
@voodoochile333
@voodoochile333 2 күн бұрын
@valeriemay7391 what an amazing comeback
@ChrisKeziahHyde
@ChrisKeziahHyde 2 күн бұрын
@@valeriemay7391 I did but they were a bit hard right for my liking 🤣
@MatthewHess-b3k
@MatthewHess-b3k 7 сағат бұрын
Journalism is so cooked in the age of AI
@georgeharrison5362
@georgeharrison5362 8 сағат бұрын
O' brainless...my neighbours selling his car...i must force him not to do it cz he cant afford to own it..cz of my antibrexit stance...its all my neighbours fault of course for not having a product that sells...gov should fund it out of tax...increase tax and subsidise it...tax my neighbour till he squels...thatll make him stop selling his car.. Increase his tax!!!!!!!
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 2 күн бұрын
"Tortoise Media". 😏
@VaucluseVanguard
@VaucluseVanguard 11 сағат бұрын
Hopefully, Elon Musk will buy it.
@wiseget-f7e
@wiseget-f7e 2 күн бұрын
Labour’s budget for growth continues to bear fruits!😂
@kevinhunter3473
@kevinhunter3473 2 күн бұрын
Lazy, but you know that
@karlyoung6289
@karlyoung6289 2 күн бұрын
There is something rotten in the state of Denmark!
@alingard1
@alingard1 2 күн бұрын
Let’s face it the observer isn’t actually a paper I’d really miss…. been decades since was worth reading.
@wellhungindung
@wellhungindung Күн бұрын
Has she paid Farage yet?
@BUFUmic
@BUFUmic 2 күн бұрын
Shame, but when you let Jonathan Freedland and Raphael Behr spread misinformation and smear Corbyn then you kind of lost the mantle of free and independent journalism, its people like Owen Jones and Zoe Gardiner I feel sorry for...
@georgethompson453
@georgethompson453 2 күн бұрын
What a load of old codswallop!
@ianhunter2374
@ianhunter2374 2 күн бұрын
I had no idea the guardian had any journalists left since they are all activists and probably the reason it's being sold off
@dog-jk2hn
@dog-jk2hn 2 күн бұрын
The guardian isn't being sold off, and I suspect your definition of an activit journalist is anyone contradicting any of the nonsense spoonfed to you by Rupert Murdoch and Christopher Chandler.
@ianhunter2374
@ianhunter2374 2 күн бұрын
@dog-jk2hn we will see
@ianhunter2374
@ianhunter2374 2 күн бұрын
@jonathanboam5409 the same reason patriots are considered far right
@gingersteve
@gingersteve 2 күн бұрын
I kneel for no-one...except millionaire "man of the people" Nigel Farage. Nothing you said above made one shred of sense. Sad.
@chatham43
@chatham43 2 күн бұрын
@dog Nope. It's a nasty vindictive paper masquerading as a liberal inclusive caring one.
@EricRiver-m1j
@EricRiver-m1j 2 күн бұрын
"Arron Banks initiated a libel action against Cadwalladr on 12 July 2019, which in May 2023 concluded with the Court of Appeal ruling that she had unlawfully published a serious imputation (which she accepted was not true). The judge declared that its continued publication by TED was not subject to a public interest defence and had caused Banks serious harm: the court held her liable for £35,000 in damages and over £1 million in costs." From Wikipedia. Go woke go broke. Which seems to be happening to the Guardian and Observer.
@goattm2
@goattm2 2 күн бұрын
Is that why those pathetic films made by whiny right wingers never sell?
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
& Banks still has not acknowledge where the money came from. Absence of evidence is not evidence
@hoggers7572
@hoggers7572 Күн бұрын
Please give a definitive definition of Woke.. guarantee you won't
@batbrewer3756
@batbrewer3756 21 сағат бұрын
String of now-documented meetings at the Russian Embassy pre-Brexit referendum that they denied at the time --- not AT ALL suspicious!
@laurencesmith1435
@laurencesmith1435 4 сағат бұрын
Guardian journalists to strike - well, there will be absolutely no loss to humanity there.
@jacko10001-n
@jacko10001-n 2 күн бұрын
Newpapers are a thing of the past...with computers an i phones...have not bought one since 2016.
@BigAlCapwn
@BigAlCapwn 2 күн бұрын
"Journalists" LOL
@michaelhemsley1470
@michaelhemsley1470 2 күн бұрын
​​@@jonathanboam5409I think you nailed it!👍😅
@nickwilson2968
@nickwilson2968 2 күн бұрын
So the Guardian wants to sell the Observer, the journalists don't like the deal so their going to go on strike😅, bit arrogant of them really, if they don't like it leave
@FnRenner
@FnRenner 2 күн бұрын
Seems like there is only conservative media left standing in jolly old England. LBC has James O'Brien but also airs Nick Fattie Ferrari and his gas bag views
@wilko-e4j
@wilko-e4j Күн бұрын
😂😂😋 the LBC is more left
@michaelsimpson4400
@michaelsimpson4400 2 күн бұрын
"Our beloved title" oh JoB, you should try at least an attempt to try and appear impartial as a journalist. It is for the owners of the company to determine what happens to it. The workers of the Guardian and the Observer may not understand capitalism but their pay checks come from companies they are employed by. The owners invest their own money and with the rewards take the risk. I suspect they want to offload one title to focus on the Guardian which is (despite it being less useful than loo roll) a reasonable business strategy.
@wilko-e4j
@wilko-e4j Күн бұрын
He doesn't know what the word means
@graemebuchan8142
@graemebuchan8142 2 күн бұрын
😂 this is fantastic news 😂😂😂😂 love y'all ❣️
@davidatkinson5858
@davidatkinson5858 2 күн бұрын
Isn't the guardian subsidised by the British taxpayer?
@goattm2
@goattm2 2 күн бұрын
Got any evidence for that ?
@CharlieL292
@CharlieL292 Күн бұрын
😂😂 you clueless pr
@wilko-e4j
@wilko-e4j Күн бұрын
​@@goattm2it's a question, not a statement. Hence the question mark. 😂😂😂
@goattm2
@goattm2 Күн бұрын
@@wilko-e4j So you don't know yourself, so i'll answer for you. No they aren't.
@Shaggy-839two
@Shaggy-839two 2 күн бұрын
This is what you get for backstabbing Corbyn. Go down. Youre the same as the others.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
Still but hurt that no one accepted that Corbyn was the messiah 🙄
@Miichael-b1j
@Miichael-b1j 3 сағат бұрын
@@zetectic7968 A strange man for sure but with more integrity than the present incumbents .
@jjNintendoswitchworldreview
@jjNintendoswitchworldreview 2 күн бұрын
Didnt know people still have books or read them.
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 2 күн бұрын
Real journalists have ask for refuge in the equidorian embassy. 😂 Ask yourself what the others are doing. 😂
@johndownes3841
@johndownes3841 2 күн бұрын
Why would a Guardian reporter take refuge in an Ecuadorian embassy?
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 2 күн бұрын
@johndownes3841 if you are investigating real things and real criminal activity. That just happens to you.
@nomoreheroes93
@nomoreheroes93 2 күн бұрын
Odd business decision but complete nonsense that the journalists purely care about this "for the reader's sake", how naive do they think we are - there's clearly something else at play e.g. salaries, equity, etc
@davetherave7353
@davetherave7353 2 күн бұрын
Maybe write articles people want to read and you wouldn't be sold!
@dog-jk2hn
@dog-jk2hn 2 күн бұрын
@@davetherave7353 are you dense? The paper makes money.
@RobertThomson-y4m
@RobertThomson-y4m 2 күн бұрын
A propaganda sheet akin to Pravda gets sold. Oh, well.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Күн бұрын
W⚓
@RichardGallagherthesecond
@RichardGallagherthesecond 2 күн бұрын
The Guardian, what wokeness it possesses 🤭😂😂
@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz
@VicePointGTAX-wd9iz 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully they buy it so they can shut it down.
@Keltik0ne
@Keltik0ne 2 күн бұрын
Well, given that the majority of the UK Press is owned by an extreme right wing Australian and some is owned by a russian, backed by Poo-Tin and wedged into he House of Lords by Tiny Johnson, handing any part over to another AmeriKKKan billionaire probably won't improve the information level at all.
@jasonhigson4865
@jasonhigson4865 2 күн бұрын
Oh no! Please say it’s not true! The guardian journalists going on strike what on earth are we going to do? 😅
@chatham43
@chatham43 2 күн бұрын
They working classes will never get over it.
@Miichael-b1j
@Miichael-b1j 3 сағат бұрын
@@jonathanboam5409 And he's not even a progressive .
@beatpeace879
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NONE of this adds up!
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