Joyo American Sound - Is This The BEST Joyo? - No Talk, All Tone

[@BudgetPedalChap]

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[@Bill82759]

I just added this to my bass board. I’m a pro touring and session bassist most recently the former touring bassist with the Motown group The Miracles. I can play any pedal I want. I love the sound of this pedal on bass. It nails the old vintage tones of the 60s and 70s.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

That's really cool to hear, I'm glad that it stands up to the rigours of touring. They do sound great, for sure

[@scentia_est]

I've got mine today and I must say, even better than the Helix model. But the strength of this one is the clean tone. Drive at 9 or 10 o' clock for gain stagging, otherwise it is too quiet as you mentioned already in your video. I am overwhelmed. Pretty sure you can't get a better modelling amp that sounds more Fender than this in a natural way. Some reverb and everybody is conviced you have recorded a mic'd amp, amazing.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, they really do have a little bit of magic in em. The drive tones on all of these can get a bit noisy but as you say, the cleans are where it is at 👍

[@kimmolingonheimo]

si senor! its now gonna be replacing my Boss Dyna Drive for the Jazz pedal ..., thou the Dyna Drive is still special! listen to an SG guitar vid here in YT...

[@northernthrifter8817]

I have this on my board I mainly have a silver horse in front of it and a mosky spring reverb after it running into a Harley Benton tube 5 combo, telecaster style guitar completes the rig. Once you learn to use the pedal with you equipment it does all things fender very well indeed 😊 Total cost of complete rig including the guitar about £450 beat that for a living room set up 😊

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, there's nothing wrong with saving a penny or two if the tones are the same at the end of it 👍

[@chrisd.9688]

I have one of these. I put it through the FX loop on my Peavey Bandit amp. It is a really good pedal and helps to get closer to the sound I'm after. It gets "farty" sounding at higher gain settings so I keep the gain low and use a dirt pedal for any overdrive dirt. It is well worth the money though and a bargain for sure.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I used to use it in a similar way actually. I have a small tube amp that can be a bit sterile, so I would use this as a 'fenderiser' that would not only give me more EQ options than the amp itself but would also add a bit more character too. You're absolutely right about the gain too, keep it in check and the pedal is golden 👍

[@chrisd.9688]

@@BudgetPedalChap One of these days I'd like to get a tube amp but right now, for different reasons, it is not practical. I'm sure I could get a better tone but for right now I'm staying with solid state. At least the Peavey Bandit is known to be one of the best solid state amps for tone.

[@pabcrane]

​@@chrisd.9688 - the Peavey Bandit is a great solid state amp. I bandmate of mine used a Transtube one for ages - both live and sometimes in the studio

[@bomdelux]

Great demo as always, such a versatile pedal

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Absolutely, it is such a great pedal and for the price it is a must

[@BlueStratRedStrat]

Agreed. Thanks for sharing. This is indeed a great pedal. I engineered the recording below and the guitar signal path was just Telecaster> JOYO American Sound> BOS RV6 > interface. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5uqf56EiduVq5I It really does sound surprisingly good

[@TheJofrica]

Nice playing and demo! I subscribed

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍

[@BartoszXIV]

It sounds good but it defo needs a spring reverb or additiona pedal with spring reverb simulation to get that real tone of fender amp. I recently sold my Fender Blues Junior III amp and it really sounded similar with the reverb switched to 0 but the reverb actually makes these amps sound fantastic

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Oh yeah, absolutely. The Mosky spring would pair fantastic with this 👍

[@rossedwards73]

Mine’s just sitting on the shelf, along with its sibling the AC Tone. When I’m gigging, they go in the case as backups or if needed for an ampless scenario. Think I may have to dig them out and have another play!

[@BudgetPedalChap]

They are fab units, really good fun. They should decent too 👍

[@robotmeister009]

@@BudgetPedalChap and @Ross which one would you recommend more

[@crunchyflower]

Got one a couple of years back, loved it, sweetened a fender amp so nice, and was good DI into DAW also, but sadly it shit the bed in a year or so with barely any use on it... :( (not sure what is wrong, has power but no signal) Might buy again, so low in price its worth it...

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, the QC on Chinese pedals can be a bit hit or miss. I've not had one crap out on me yet, but I've heard many tales. For the price though, as you say, not too much of a hassle to replace it 👍

[@DerpRulesAll]

I really like the sounds of this pedal! 😆

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It's a great pedal for not a lot of cash. I really like it 👍

[@kimmolingonheimo]

Im buying one back, its also good for darkish clean Jazz tone! + it is extr Fendery!!!!

[@kimmolingonheimo]

this would be a must for starting strat players! : )

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I'm certain I could use this and a few choice pedals to get through a gig if I needed to. You're right, it's a must have 👍

[@pabcrane]

I have the Caline version of this (as well as the Marshally and Voxy ones). I read somewhere that there was a slight difference between the Joyo and Caline, (with the Caline having tweeked it a little) but they're essentially the same. They are really good sounding and useful. I used the American Sound one for recording direct in with great results. The Voice control is quite powerful for changing the whole sound and response. Going into an amp they're fab for getting very different flavours out of the amp. For example, giving a Laney and Fendery sound.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, I've used them in the front end of amps before to great effect too. For the money, they are a fantastic tool and I'd suggest every guitarist owns at least one if only for a backup

[@kimmolingonheimo]

HAD to buy one "back", a cavalcade of Fender amps in a pedal, let othe pedals agree or disagree with..VERSATILITY!

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@kimmolingonheimo it really is versatile huh?

[@GreatKukuruzo]

Hi. Can you check that the pcb on calibe is the same as joyo so it could be possible to make a cab sim mod?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I'm pretty sure it is documented that the Harley Benton versions were rebadged joyo pedals. They did a whole range as well as other joyo classics like the vintage overdrive.

[@MatthewApsey]

What would be a good cheap option for running my pedalboard directly into headphones? I have various preamp pedals and a Sonicake IR pedal, and I'm just looking for something to power headphones that won't colour my sound. Any ideas? Something that has an aux in to mix a backing track from a PC would be cool, too.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

If you're after all the features, look at a used two notes cab m. They can be picked up for around £120 and do some of the best cab sims on the market. It's got a dedicated aux in and headphones out. Run your pedals direct into that and it'll sound great. The Sonicake IR will do some of this just not the aux in. Hope this helps 👍

[@MatthewApsey]

@@BudgetPedalChap The Sonicake doesn't seem to be able to drive my headphones, if it did I would just use that

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@MatthewApsey try running a boost pedal into it to bring the volume up, I'm sure I've used something similar in the past. I'll have to try it out

[@MatthewApsey]

​@@BudgetPedalChap Still have not had the chance to try any of this, but thinking about just upgrading the IR pedal anyway to a Mooer Radar, which apparently can power headphones, too. No aux in, though. It's between the Radar, TC Impulse, Hotone Omni. The Two Notes option looks big and I would prefer something in the mini pedal format. Which of the above options (or other) do you think suits best? Thanks for your advice.

[@人造书]

I bought one good.. same as Behringer GDI 21

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I did do a shout-out between this and the Behringer I think, similar but definitely not the same

[@saurodino8459]

Best preamp pedal in the market. Maximum quality-price. I use It to go ampless

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It's hard to beat it on sheer bang for your buck. So versatile and great sounding for such a reasonable price 👍

[@suprbird]

Im thinking about running this through my fender rumble 100 bass amp instead of keeping my princeton chorus 🤔 less amps

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I bet it will be great for that. I think one end of the voice control is supposed to be bassman voiced 👍

[@FrazySting]

Would the cab sim of something like a Mooer Micro DI/Harley Benton Magnum DI help improve the tone? I feel like it would be a pretty sweet direct gig when paired with this pedal.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, I almost always pair it up with a cab sim. I would say the mooer radar would be perfect 👍

[@FrazySting]

​@@BudgetPedalChapAppreciate the reply. Have you tried putting a reverb and delay after the American Sound and before the Cab Sim? Would that work/make it better?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@FrazySting that'd make your sound more authentic as the verb and delay would have the colour of the speaker, like going into the FX loop of your amp. I have tried it with digital modelers before and it does affect the the sound. It's worth experimenting with to see what you prefer 👍

[@greblus]

I love this pedal. With cab emulation bypass mod it's even better, but it's picking emi noise in my environement (a lot of) and there is not much I can do about it. A friend tested it in his house and its perfectly silent there but he's playing stoner metal 😢 I can't give it to him...

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Is it something that a noise gate could tame?

[@greblus]

@@BudgetPedalChap unfortunately only for distorted, loud playing. On clean parts its there and its annoying. I've tried a clone of decimator with not much luck. But I'll borrow NS2 as it has higher impedance, sometimes it helps. If not, I must borrow some kind of an EMI noise detector and check my neighbourhood for some broken refrigerator or something similar 😌

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@greblus I hope you find a solution, it sounds like an absolute pain 😭😭

[@greblus]

​​​​​@@BudgetPedalChapI've a success to report: demonfx g-string filtration ii eliminates all unwanted noises 😊, works great and it's inexpensive. I've also decided to use Mooer 006 micro-preamp instead of the American, it's smaller, has a very nice clean channel and likes my fuzz pedals more (green russian and rusty fuzz sound better through 006, better than if plugged straight into my Laney L5T on low volumes) 🎉. American will find it's place on second pedalboard which I'm planning to build - simple, reliable, with small solid state poweramp straight into 12" cab.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@greblus that's great, I'm glad to hear you've had success with it. I might have to check out that mooer, that is high praise indeed 👍

[@Dwoed]

Joyo + Mooer radar = ❤

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Sounds like a fantastic pairing 👍

[@bbbofficial777]

No. The Joyo already has a built in cab sim that you can't turn off unless you mod it.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, but if you run it with a cab sim, it sounds better than without even though it has a cab sim built in 👍

[@BobEstremera]

Just bought this and really like it into my LT25 on the Super Clean setting. How do you put a cab sim after this unit?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I just run a cab sim pedal directly after it, it works a charm 👍

[@martynrandall7652]

​@@BudgetPedalChaphave you reviewed any good budget cab sim pedals ? Has to be able to run into a guitar amp, old school I'm afraid. Best of the bunch that pedal fair play.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@martynrandall7652 when you say run into a guitar amp, do you mean in the front end or just into the speaker of an amp? If you're running into the front end/FX loop then the amp speaker should do that job for you. If you are looking for it to power a speaker, you'll need to look at something with a built in power amp or having a preamp pedal, a cab sim and a power amp as separate units.

[@martynrandall7652]

@@BudgetPedalChap soz yeah into the main guitar input or fx loop. Alot of the cab sims you have to Di them and I'm not set up for it. And at 63 and now on a low income dont think I will bother. I'm up for lighter smaller, got the Quilter superblock uk recently and it's amazing but not cheap but amazing. You can put it in your coat pocket and no one will know it's there.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@martynrandall7652 the cab sims only emulate the EQ curve that guitar speakers give. If you are plugging into an amp, the speaker should do that job, so I wouldn't think you'd need an additional cab sim. If you did want an affordable cab sim though, you can't get much cheaper than the sonicake sonic IR and the cabs it's loaded with are pretty decent 👍

[@smartlevel1450]

Are you using them into the input or the fx loop?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

For this demo, it is direct into desk. I have used them in the past in both ways too, so it is personal preference. I do like to use an IR pedal paired with it if I'm going direct in too.

[@sboistan]

What kind of IRs do you like to use with this guy? You've got some great sounds coming out of it...

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Ah cheers, I think it is a great sounding unit especially with a cab sim after it. I've also used it into the front end of amps to "fenderise" their character. I have used this unit with quite a range of amp sims and this pedal sounds great with most of them tbf. With the EQ as powerful as it is, you can probably make it work with most. My preferred sim with this is an IR of a Zilla 212 cab that I got for free after a quick Google search. Cheers for watching, feel free to ask anything else, I'd be happy to help out 👍

[@sboistan]

@@BudgetPedalChap I'll try that cab out, thanks! My nomination for the best Joyo Pedal is the Sweet Baby. You should check it out if you haven't already, it sounds great going into just about anything, I often plug it right into amp sims on my computer.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@sboistan I'm always up for new suggestions, I'll keep my eyes open for the sweet baby 👍 cheers

[@DavidShepard-ke9su]

What do you think about using this as a preamp pedal in front of a Seymour Duncan Powerstage 170?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I would use a cab sim pedal after it as it makes it sound much more authentic, but yeah, that is a great application for it 👍

[@DavidShepard-ke9su]

@@BudgetPedalChap Super cool. Thank you!

[@DavidShepard-ke9su]

@@BudgetPedalChap Thinking of using it as a live rig: guitar to pedal board to American to 170 to cabinet.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@DavidShepard-ke9su that should work as long as the power stage can amplify enough to power a cab. The American sound will create a fender style preamp voicing to it 👍

[@DavidShepard-ke9su]

@@BudgetPedalChap For sure! 170 Watts into 4 ohms, half that into 8. Thank you!

[@Alfgunnarp]

Does it have a noise gate built in?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

No it doesn't. It can get a little noisy when you push the gain up, but generally it's a quite quiet pedal to operate 👍

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Feel free to suggestions on the comments and if you enjoyed the pedal.

[@cakejuiceandbread]

Why do I get hissing sound from this pedal

[@BudgetPedalChap]

If you are pushing the gain quite high, it can be a bit noisy at higher gain settings. If it's not that, it might be a faulty one.

[@Gearjunkie35JasonBallou]

Bring on the vs...

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I think it might be the next one I recorded. I have the British sound scheduled for next week but maybe the week after. What do you suggest as the first one?

[@DDStudia]

Joyo or Harley Bentonv ?????????????????

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I believe they are exactly the same 👍

[@guitareplayer7141]

This or the Caline Americana?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I think they might be the same circuit

[@7171jay]

I imagine eight months later you probably have this sorted out but the answer to your question which other people might be wondering is yes these are all just rebranded and are the same pedal: Joyo, Harley Benton, and Caline. Buy whichever one you can get the best price on or what is available near you. It's a rather reasonable sounding box for next to no money. As the video states...better when used along with additional cab sim pedal or software plugin. I like my ADA GCS5 cab sim pedal along with the American as it really opens up the sound. The American works best in my opinion used clean or with just a tiny bit of grit as a pedal platform. I think better sounds can be achieved out of it if you run other fuzz or overdrive pedals into the American rather than pushing the gain hard but for those who happen to like the gainier sounds of the American I guess it just makes it even more of a bargain. One other thing I would mention is about running the gain low on this pedal. Again as stated in the video the output can get rather low if you run the gain very low and/or cut a bunch of mids. This can be corrected for by running the volume control full up if necessary. If the Drive and Voice are set on the lower side there is no noise issue running the level knob at 100% if needed. The cleanest sounds out of the pedal are found with the gain below nine o'clock (even all the way down) and cranking the level is often needed to compensate for that.

[@7171jay]

I forgot to mention in addition to the Joyo, Harley Benton, and Caline there is also the Ammoon branded version.

[@BarnacleButtock]

your noise gate is cutting off a lot of the sound.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Can you direct me to the bit you are talking about? I've had a listen back briefly and can't hear a noise gate kicking in at all.