JR. DEVELOPER SCAMS - GARBAGE PROGRAMMING JOBS |

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Welcome to all of my Hola Noobs! So close to 200k! Job Scam 0:27 Hola is Garbage 3:44

[@BenjaminMutuku]

Congratulations Joshua! So close to 200K❗👏 We still need to link up soon and go a vlog💥 here in SLC. Meanwhile, am close to 5K💥

[@christov4202]

Cheers on following your KZbin advice with the time stamps, props

[@andrewmartin2341]

Hey Josh, have you seen the crap going on with Lambda bootcamp? Might be worth covering for your channel. Good video man.

[@Buzzing_around]

Is Hola ok with employees ever going on holiday or being uncontactable? Do they get a day off call as a 'treat' every leap year?

[@karljay7473]

I'm looking forward to seeing your Arduino project. I bought a kit last year and did some 30 projects, it was pretty cool stuff.

[@jackvial5591]

"We trained an AI on 100k BS company culture guides and this is what it came up with."

[@RuslanLagashkin]

Lol, so true.

[@SL2797]

Hola? More like ADIÓS!

[@salvationprayerfellowship8899]

ADIÓS! amigo

[@jaftsix3681]

putos scams

[@isauromartineztamez3106]

Lol the opposite of hola is au revoir !! Source: I'm Russian

[@sososleepie863]

"I am a developer..." No! You are noob! HOLA!

[@1013katya]

I just spent the last 5 mins laughing at ur comment lol

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

I went through a 8hr coding interview with blizzard and less than 12hrs after than mind-numbing nightmare they called and said "Thanks but you are not qualified" for an associate level python developer....What a waste of my time that is why I don't apply to companies large or small anymore I do my own thing.

[@TESkyrimizer]

i hear you. companies treat junior devs like they scrapin gum off their shods

[@HexapoDD]

First day, first task: LETS DEPLOY SOME CODE TO PRODUCTION

[@nageswararao4021]

😂

[@y2ksw1]

Good one!

[@varmoes]

Hahaha! Sounds like my boss that required us to deploy a feature in prod in the 3 days we had before holiday vacations that involved... timezones! I worked two 16h shifts in those 3 days. Madness. I’m surprised the feature works well and no one complained about it! (Oh and all of that without a single test across the web app, backend and inference engine)

[@MrGlugz]

That's insanity.

[@tizzlekizzle]

Hahaha

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

"No one will check your work - so do it well first time" (sic) The irony here is astounding. And hilarious.

[@TheSbarazzolo]

Dude, just reading their job ad is stressful, I can't imagine working there...

[@UnderGun81]

A remote job with one of the perks being an In-house chef???? LMAO

[@VolcanicPenguin]

PS. You have to double as an in house chef

[@TheFeljoy]

@@VolcanicPenguin or he lives with you now😂

[@OhNotThat]

dont forget he also doubles as your dog sitter and by "he" I of course mean: you.

[@chad.andersen]

I made the mistake once of buying training for a job that I didn’t even get anyways. Lesson learned to never do that again.

[@KDazee]

You’re definitely a good youtuber Man. The content , the zoom in/out cuts , the ability to inform and entertain . 👌🏾👌🏾

[@jesse6327]

Very good video - it's kind of mind-boggling what companies put out to hire folks and what their expectations are. Kind of insane.

[@CodingTutorials360]

Companies like this are more prevalent than people know. Get those years of experience and move onto one of the few good ones.

[@dragonmark9092]

I hate the "tests" when applying to companies. They are asking for free work from you, its so blatant. If they didn't know about your skill level from your portfolio, they shouldn't waste your time and work.

[@toastom]

Josh, as a strong electronics enthusiast looking to go into that field after high school, I would not mind if this channel had Arduino content.

[@kangar1797]

Thomas Gourley me too , i really wanna see your robot ideas

[@toastom]

Okay my comments for the past two videos have been loved by Josh. I think this means that I'm officially his favorite subscriber.

[@Maraus92]

Backing this up so we can encourage Joshua to put some arduino videos up!

[@MikaelAbehsera]

@joshua Fluke do it nerd

[@trash3570]

I would love this, I'm trying to make some birthday gifts because I know my parents would love something I made them that related to my career.

[@NickDiVona]

I had an interview where my task was to create several React components to sort calendar data into visual data which varies in length based on how long the event is. The events should also be draggable and support manual resizing based on data being changed, or manually adjust. I ghosted them almost instantly.

[@MyReviews_karkan]

I have once applied for a position at Harley Davidson as a web dev and when I got through the terms and conditions, it was a holy shit moment where I have never clicked "I decline" so fast. They want to collect literally every single piece of info on me, and I mean EVERYTHING. Including my medical record, my mother's maiden name, my bank account number, my health record. It was about 6 pages of shit they wanted from. It was fucking terrifying. Yeah no. I took screenshots of the whole thing.

[@mn-cb3hk]

Bank account number? Lol how do they even explain that one

[@mpforeverunlimited]

@@mn-cb3hk don't they need that for direct deposit? That or the routing number I'm pretty sure

[@SanketPatole]

You can add piece of code to your application, which would allow you to destroy the software and their infrastructure remotely, if they don't pay you after completion.

[@shahrikamin4699]

Wow, Hola is trash.

[@xSh4dowNinja]

That's a serious understatement.

[@HPTeguh]

Has Hola became Adios yet? lmao

[@nickgennady]

As someone who writes game code, I know it can get very sloppy if you don't have a-lot of experience and good programming patterns. No code review is a awful idea and asking a much more experienced people for tips and reviews is very good for learning.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

Ok, that Sh* is funny and creative: "Reverse Financed Internship". Hey, for anyone watching as a Data Scientist or Data Engineer DO NOT talk to or work with EOIC, total SCAM

[@bobafruti]

M Musashi it’s like the reverse interest they’ve been pioneering in central banking sectors.

[@scottc.5142]

I think that advertisement for reverse financed internship was made by a frustrated programmer who can't get a job..LOL

[@MrFuguDataScience]

@@scottc.5142 , still funny ----

[@saturnGEEK]

I've seen legitimate internships in Australia by registered non-profit organisations offering reverse financial internships. It's more common than you may think.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

@@saturnGEEK , are you serious?

[@imacds]

Don't Be Honest Honesty and integrity are lame. Your peers will be cheating and lying. You should do it too!

[@shahrikamin4699]

Oh btw we don't tolerate dishonesty.

[@ysammo214]

True

[@ScottMaday]

I imagine the first day of working on site at Hola would be something like this HR: Ok well now that your desk is all set up, go ahead and commit that code. I’ll be in my office if you need me. Me: Uhhh, I have no idea what this library does. Let me just slack the Sr.Dev Sr.Dev: f**k off

[@HeatherHolt]

Now that I’m done with bootcamp I’m looking for data analyst jobs in my town. Thanks for making these videos so I know what to (and to not) seek out.

[@2breborn247]

How did that go?

[@Incubansoul]

Regarding the "avoid meetings" I used to be a project manager working out in the field. Once a week all the project managers who were working on the same project would have a 1 hour or so conference call. It was basically just "hey we noticed this thing is messed up and this is how we fixed it, so if you notice your thing is messed up like that you don't have to spend the 40 minutes figuring it out because we already did that". Just an exchange of solutions. It saved every crew countless hours over the years.

[@fanofcodd]

Meetings that save time ? What is that sorcery ?

[@coder4life]

Only KZbinr who's telling the truth and exposing bad companies

[@FRNKNSTNmusic]

310K and you deserve every subscriber. Your videos are super high-quality, and your consistency is insane. Favorite new channel.

[@gmc9753]

This is why I transitioned from a developer to a systems administrator after 2 years out of college. It's much easier saying "I'm gonna write some scripts to manage this or monitor that to make my job easier." I'm responsible for everything from start to finish. It doesn't matter how it looks because it's all internal. I decide when it's complete and ready to deploy.

[@sidehustletips]

At least there are a lot of jobs out there for anything dev related. Even after filtering out the garbage. Try being an IP attorney in America right now. Today, I listened in on an interview with a friend who has been out of work for a while and the law firm hiring stated they had reviewed 2000 resumes and still hadn't found the right person. Plus they forced my friend to watch their corporate culture video before the interview. I wish could share the peak level of cringe I witnessed. The video virtue signaled the importance of inclusive diversity and "progressive togetherness." And then they asked my friend for their thoughts on the company's "culture". Meanwhile they're all pale Anglos with 1 token woc/poc.

[@sueellen360]

This is one of the crappiest jobs I've seen. I had a job that seemed fine the first 7 months but then it got progressively shittier and looking back, there were a lot of things that were wrong, there were no code reviews, we'd test our own code and while I appreciated the little supervision, the last 6 months or so they would give me 0 feedback and then one day I was let go because they "didn't like my work the last 2 months" but I was never told anything, it was always "yeah, fine".

[@ka-md8ue]

What's the company name?

[@sueellen360]

@@ka-md8ue It's a local company

[@doctorgears9358]

Ah yes, the classic "reverse finance internship", something that definitely exists. I feel like I'm actually in the streets of Brooklyn being sold a Rolex from a trench coated man in an alley way just by reading that. Hola thinking they're a FANG company with the amount of interviews you gotta go through, my god

[@KBWGH]

Make a review of crappy companies like Revature and TalentPath, where they train you and if you get fired within the first year you have to pay them around $20,000.

[@Nukestarmaster]

That can't be legal

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Its cooking.

[@mohanadhmd]

@Joshua Fluke I was going to do revature but I left last minute. I'm still not aware. Can't wait for that video! They told me $36k but yeah same idea

[@KBWGH]

@@mohanadhmd I was in the same position man. Something better always comes up.

[@tuxmusicman]

Wow, didn't know Revature was that bad. I was thinking about applying. Guess it's good I haven't.

[@geegeegonza]

What happens if you're a Veteran at Hola and you make a mistake and they have to fire you but they also can't let you go? Mindbreaking. Cheers from Argentina.

[@nicklandreth2527]

For a while I thought that your channel was too negative. Now I actually appreciate things like this considering I will be in the job market soon. These scams are horrible.

[@THEGAMINGHELP101]

Recruitment should be no more than 3 interviews. 1) Prescreening phone interview with HR. 2) Phone interview with managers. 3) In-person interview. This way no one's time is wasted.

[@blueice3124]

Reversed financed? Wow, I would take the interview just to mess with them. Call them, that would be fun

[@jb_lofi]

Call them and reverse the charges.

[@cakesterlover]

You are the In-House Chef!

[@Metruzanca]

Really liked this video so I double smashed the like button.

[@JoeCisneros]

I triple smashed that button

[@Metruzanca]

@Billy But Whole finally a reply that actually gets the joke.

[@halkon4412]

@@Metruzanca Everyone got your "joke"; the last guy just decided to exhaustively explain it for some reason.

[@pyguy9915]

"I have been watching... way too much Michael Reeves..." instant like 😁

[@genx7006]

They sound like the type of company that takes joy in raking candidates over the coals. 30 min long interview with one developer and then a 60 min long interview with the senior developer. I bet you that senior developer eviscerates most candidates that step into his office. Wondering how many developers crawl home shivering after going through their interrogation. The worst part is, I bet they know ahead of time that 90% of their candidates won't make the cut, yet they take them all the way through the process...because they can.

[@ChibiQilin]

Been watching these garbage programming videos while looking for job listings, gonna finish my B.S. for Comp Sci later this semester and it's legitimately making me depressed because most of the listings I find are offering around the same as what's being called garbage... and worse yet it's in Canadian, which is 25% under the USD atm...

[@KangMinseok]

Why the hell do I enjoy this anti-LinkedIn vlog-content so much ???

[@Jvizzlezz]

seeing just how long and ridiculous that encyclopedia of an employee handbook you read was, makes me think that there are more than a few people working there that are consistently bored and are constantly writing shit to make themselves look busy

[@user-sw1wq8lh2w]

I think the idea of a pair session in which you pair with a senior dev to squash a 0-1 story point bug couos be an excellent way to get an intro to the code. But I'd really ensure that it was either a product they were familiar or your documentation makes it a very straight forward debug and fix.

[@FoxInTheBasement]

Reverse Internships are literally just being a customer

[@gunes5725]

Reverse financed internship is a real thing in Turkey.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Scams

[@1yasin6]

In Turkey a 60 hour week is a thing

[@loek1455]

@@1yasin6 do you guys at least get a minimum pay?

[@1yasin6]

@@loek1455 thankfully i don't live there but minimum wage is at about 2,3€ per hour. But because of the drop in value of the lira people getting minimum wage can buy much less. And also unpaid overtime is very common

[@loek1455]

@@1yasin6 that sounds pretty low. I dont know how high the living costs are in turkey, but coming from germany this sounds really low. I'm in my appreticeship and earn about double of that, and thats already very low in germany compared to actual jobs

[@jeffsDad]

A lot of this stuff happens in the Freelance Writing and Content Creation world, too.

[@HisShadowX]

I remember back in 2004 when the job scam of the day was done by Online Colleges like Phoenix. What colleges like Phoenix would do was that would post a job online and then you would always get a call from a recruiter and they would only help you out if you promised to sign up for the online college or do an orientation for the college. The help provided would by literal job links to other fake jobs that were online colleges.

[@poplionandrew5803]

You are very kind to share your industrial experience with beginning beginner -- the tricks and traps -- of what and how. Hopefully the job market is both consistent (no self-contradiction) and transparency (no company options)...

[@QBiks]

I once was interviewed for a student job in Hola's HQ in Israel. It didn't go anywhere but I indeed felt some atmosphere of tension and authority there. After reading some reviews (mostly in Hebrew), indeed many say that the treatment there to developers is very bad. Someone even said that he got reprimanded because he sent an e-mail with one or two unnecessary blank lines.

[@E.R.O-yt]

"You'll work from home, but we'll be watching you" 👁️👁️

[@JosifovGjorgi]

Your workstation a.k.a ultra budget pc that sounds like jet engine when compiling

[@tonybp]

I've read job ads where they demand you not only have your own workstation but also the software and whatever tool necessary. Wacky companies.

[@gabrielabdul]

So happy that coding is starting to excite you. Especially along with some interesting robotic content! Happiness is everything.

[@kyouhyung]

LPT: if there is a job that's so good you want to pay to join, they're probably not interested in the petty amount you have in your pocket.

[@moha6859]

Another scam job ads in my country Training Centers post the perfect job for junior IT (Dev, Ops, DevOps, Security, ...). and in every corner you will find a copy of Microsoft "partner" Certificate

[@colemctarmach4558]

Thanks so much for these videos. It's really tricky navigating all these scam jobs.

[@MangaGamified]

LoL at that 3 weeks, that's exactly what happened to me in my 1st programming job, I heard it used to be 3 months probation then it became 2, when I entered the fray, it was at that time the probation was now 1 month, ofcourse I didn't make the cut as you had said I have to set my environment and know what's going on and what's the best practices, it's definitely not as crazy nor as paranoid as HOLA, I felt really down for weeks.

[@mattackaigaming8527]

Job listings like this give an introvert like myself severe anxiety when it comes to getting my first dev job. I feel like I'm going to be strung up by my feet the first time I miss a semicolon.

[@dreamingfool2]

Congrats on the raspberry pi! I'm currently putting one in a gutted, outdated, digital frame and making a wifi connected, self-updating digital frame. My next project was going to build a desktop arcade cabinet. And I'm toying around with the scary idea of making my own touchscreen car radio

[@ПашковаМария-о1о]

On-call rotations is a common thing in companies that run web services with millions of users. For example, Facebook has those. You basically do it in shifts, so you need to be on-call for several hours once in two weeks or something like that (and in that DNA they mentioned such shifts). So you don't have to be available all the time, not even close to that. On-call exists because if anything breaks, company looses tons of $$$ every minute (because a lot of users). Everything else you told about Hola is rubbish, I'm starting to realize why their VPN doesn't work for me here in Russia.

[@KevinTatou]

It comes to me as a surprise that a software company won't review your code until after committing or deploying. That is the just the most ridiculous and crappiest way of working I have ever heard. The whole point of reviewing the code is for the developer to learn something (especially as a junior) and for the code to be in good shape for deployment in a product.

[@asadb1990]

i remember one employment agency asked me to pay for fingerprinting for the federal clearance. but it ended up a waste as they told me they won't be doing the clearance because the client wasn't interested. and then stopped taking calls and emails after trying to followup.

[@teflonpan115]

the thing is. 95% of developer "job openings" are a scam, without trying to get your money. Yep, the "developer shortage" is a huge scam.

[@n0fluxgiven486]

Reverse paid internships may sound shocking, but where I live, the 'IT companies' will have new and even experienced junior devs sign a 'bond' or agreement that forces the developer to work for the company for a year or two, even though it's against the law to put a constraint on someone's trade and profession. This shitty practice IS the worst thing a company can do to new guys. My current company has such time bond that they made me sign for a year in last July, but I'm planning to leave in Feb for a course anyway. I'm not afraid to fight back!

[@TheGamingDividend]

Use those companies the same way they use you. Get your experience and then PEACE OUT to a better place.

[@nauxsi]

In the UK a lot of training companies post job ads, but it's to train with them and then they will support you in getting the job.

[@nauxsi]

@Genius by Design you pay them for training.

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@nauxsi It's expensive. There was one company called BTC in Chesington South I had interview with for a one month training course on becoming an electrician. It costed £9000. Glad I was not stupid enough to take out a personal loan.

[@nauxsi]

@@grimgoreironhide9985 with private companies it's expensive. Look for sixth form colleges that do nvq course.

[@85set05]

I once applied to a job instead of a rejection or invite I got a ad for a professional resume service when I refused they sent a email back basically saying they where going to inform the unemployment office about my refusal. Also worked (my first dev job)at one of tho companies that doesnt mentor noonbs or check code and can confirm you get blamed when it it's the fan sad thing is management actually expressed confusion about why we weren't as good as a "real game company" that's an actual quote.

[@qman327]

Remind me to uninstall hola.... I feel unsafe with it on my pc now.

[@MrLastlived]

You have been reminded

[@thenoicemango1827]

Hey

[@Darsithis]

Solve it yourself? What the...the best resource you have is your peers and a second set of eyes to spot what you can’t. I’ve been a developer for 20 years and I’ve always found my peer’s opinions and thoughts to be my greatest asset in my career

[@charliedallachie3539]

Out of college a data analyst (most computer science related positions) in a relatively expensive area should be starting at at least 75k with employee benefits. Without benefits then like $45/hour. Even Costco pays $20/hour

[@kurtmueller2089]

The Hola stuff reads exactly like a company that would pretend to run a vpn but without any encryption and then sell off the bandwidth to advertisers, not caring about the safety of its clients (cattle might be a better word) nor about if and how the network switches can handle the kind of traffic that looks suspiciously like a DDoS attack.

[@TheUmnez]

200K subscribers waiting room.

[@millertime6]

5 interviews and a 3 week Bootcamp. That’s too damn much

[@MrFuguDataScience]

Josh, HOLA just wrote a Manifesto run and run far away from the craziness.

[@NoBrainerLanguages]

"Solve it yourself! Don't talk to the Senior Pharaohs/don't stain our pure DNA with your noobness" Noob: "Ok then..." Pharaohs: "StackOverflow?!?! How outrageous! You're fired!!!"

[@evadecaptcha]

A big part of my job is specifically to do code reviews and testing, and I know from experience that requiring a standard of perfect commits every time is absurd and downright impossible. I'm the person who does the reviewing, with 8 years of experience, and I still make mistakes in my commits from time to time.

[@pjeet4411]

Can you do a video how to avoid company to join by their hiring process?

[@lukaszepesi]

We don't need managers or any communication between employees at all. This sounds like when Todd Howard said "It just works".

[@lawrenceslsko1391]

Josh Fluke has redpilled me about the job market. His video has made me much more strict and taking my own career in my own hands.

[@matthealy7180]

Hey man, love your videos (GARBAGE PROGRAMMING JOBS in particular) but could you move your blender bottle out of the way of your camera? it clutters the screen a bit and i dont see any benefit to it being there. Thanks man. Keep the vids coming!

[@thenoicemango1827]

Bro that’s the best part of the video

[@inigo8740]

So there are different tiers, very strict rules, and you are encouraged to get people into the team? Sounds similar to certain MLMs.

[@ripudamanSinghThakur]

Yeah I've seen this remote hola job before..and this is not the only one, some of them ask you to book seats for their webinars, like and share their social media pages

[@GoldPhoenix99]

"Your code should be reviewed, regardless of whether you're a junior-level, a mid-level, or a senior-level dev." Man, you think that shit would be obvious, but so many people fuck this shit up. It's really mind-numbing to me that this has to be said, but: I cannot tell you the number of times I've had to force teams I join to force PR's with code reviews, force people to write and perform tests before PRs, etc. Like, just the fact that they use the language "commit to production" tells me that their whole git setup is nuts and they've implemented continuous deployment in the scariest way possible --without feature/dev/testing branches, where everyone is committing straight to the production branch that is continuously deployed. That's scary as hell, man.

[@danieljr6869]

Video idea: Tall-tell signs of a bad programming job: #1 - They used to word "family" (like you said), the implication being that if you're not a right fit for their clique you're not getting the job! #2 - ???

[@justinTime077]

I hate all these boot camp type job listings posing as legit positions and wasting my time and space on the job board

[@blaisetelfer8499]

"Newb...you will be assigned larger tasks that will allow you to make a significant contribution." What a LinkedIn way of saying that they make their lowest-paid developers do all the hard stuff and expect them to accept "making a contribution" as its own reward rather than, ya know, a higher salary.

[@masteranimation2008]

I'm at a crossroads here. Do they expect you to read this whole damn thing, while they throw your resumé into the garbage where it belongs for not having specific keywords and formatting?

[@AfolabiJude]

Thank you so much Fluke

[@hellstormangel]

The Bootcamp seems legit. Day 1: Before analyzing any parts of the codebase, you will need to write production code, test production code, deploy production code (All in under 3 hours). OH WAIT.

[@allabritton5127]

Hello Joshua! Please, shoot a video about the remote job for Manual Testers. How to find a good company. Thank you very much 👍🌞

[@ctkqiang]

This job description and handbook is a giant middle finger for the all the programmers.

[@cotty9749]

I feel like Hola is owned by high school teens

[@amateruss]

Nah, they're owned by single mothers. Trust me, I'm with the FBI.

[@combatguy6989]

You earned my sub, keep it up.

[@frednil8304]

I'm not in the industry but watched the video anyway. I'm interested in knowing about employment/job scams.

[@shuttereff3ct593]

Yes, I work in something similar. it's horrible, can't wait my chance to leave. wish me luck!

[@LPOktabyte]

Well there is one type of company you would work at, where there might be no one to check your code and it is appropriate: your own (Startup)

[@xenonsan3110]

I worked for a smaller gov contractor as an intern. They didn't have code reviews (but used git). Was able to convince them that we needed them and put the code on a actual remote repo. Still couldn't believe they didn't have PRs. What does that say about the rest of the company :/

[@rohan98k]

I had this reverse financed internship in my college, where we'd pay roughly $100-120 to go work at a company for 2 weeks. We didn't really learn anything there, all we got was to see how things are carried out inside the company, more like a stupid field trip for 2 weeks.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Lol thats just a scam not a job

[@ryancadwell1910]

Good thing I haven't seen Hola job postings online since I didn't know how bad they were until now.