CHINA's One Child Policy Destroyed Them

[@mattmurphy8288]

I listened to Zeihan’s audio book… he goes into detail about every country like this… definitely worth a read or listen!

[@dallassegno]

The only thing I have ever got from this guy has been how wrong he's been about pretty much everything. And now he's on Joe! Guess being loud gets you things.

[@mattmurphy8288]

@@dallassegno He is easier to understand when it comes to predicting the future than Nostradamus. :)

[@marek1911]

3:32 Mao Zedong died in 1976, the one child policy was established *three* years later in 1979. It wasn't Mao, it was Deng Xiaoping who rolled it out. Mao wasn't concerned about anything. As a matter of fact, Mao encouraged large families: he outlawed abortion and the use of contraception. Under Mao, mothers who gave birth to more than 10 children would receive medals from the state. In short: no, it wasn't Mao. But that's just Zeihan for you. Listening to him is a perfect illustration of the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect: The phenomenon of people trusting newspapers for topics which they are not knowledgeable about, despite recognizing them to be extremely inaccurate on certain topics which they are knowledgeable about. You listen to Zeihan thinking to yourself "wow! This man is brilliant" then he starts talking about something you have some expertise on and you think "wait, wtf? he's just spewing total nonsense right now" then he again switches topics to something you know nothing about and you return to thinking "Wow! That Zeihan guy is so brilliant." To drive this point even further: there's this website where people make predictions that keeps the tally of who the best forecasters of world events are. It's called "metaculus". Zeihan is considered a joke in that community.

[@carlmenger4964]

+ he has a punchable face

[@mattkayl1396]

You really don’t like him huh lmao

[@nikolassilos_6227]

It’s funny because I used to think the exact same thing, his way of talking has such a presence that makes me feel trustworthy. Until he posts a video on the right-wing victories in Europe and tries to explain it with the birth rate and economics and population collapse and it’s like, uh… no. Literally just immigration. Europeans are tired of Muslims who leech off their generous social systems.

[@paulharms7253]

Yep. I was initially impressed by him, but then cracks started to reveal themselves. I still watch his stuff, but I take it with a grain of salt and cross check it. Over time, I have also noticed that he tends to bring his biases in, even though he pretends to not do it.

[@patbacon7923]

Quick read of the one child policy on Wikipedia shows that many of the family planning programs that eventually led to China's one child policy began in the 70's under Mao. So while you are correct that China's one child policy was not enacted under Mao, many of its predecessor efforts were. There was a time during the Great Leap Forward where Mao was encouraging as many births as possible, but Mao's stance changed dramatically in the 1970's. Peter is technically right here.

[@glennwatson3313]

So much for the Chinese Century.

[@deanaly2634]

It’s a lot worse than just the one child policy. There is also contraception, feminism and urbanism that caused mass depopulation in China.

[@jovanny125]

it was that no one wanted to have a girl lol not feminism

[@johndillinger1918]

I’m laughing my ass off. As a raw American with hair on his chest, only China could have some sort of decisive move like have a one child policy or something then it end up devastating the nation.

[@SC-sn3xs]

Let’s blame feminism for the abolishment of millions of female babies.

[@feyfey5678]

Dude what feminism r u talking about these people chose to have male babies over female babies and now there r 30 million bachelorsy harrassing girls online coz they can't find a wife 😂😂😂😂

[@feyfey5678]

​@@jovanny125 yes no one wanted a daughter but they want daughter in law's and they can't find one 😂

[@andreilikayutub3496]

Wait how are the Americans not patrolling the oceans anymore?

[@mignik01]

Because it doesn't make any sense. Now there isn't a strategic threat to the US. Short of a nuclear war US is safe. In the case of a nuclear war, we're all dead so if doesn't matter. After USSR fell, US still did it because there was an international order and one hegemon in charge and everybody played along. Now countries like China is taking that strategic overwatch and working actively against the US. So no longer does it serve American strategic interest, it's also working actively against it.

[@obcane3072]

At the end of WW2 the US met the various countries involved in war. Instead of taking them over as colonies (as was the custom for millenia) the offered then Bretton Woods Agreement: the US would offer protected shipping lanes with their Navy, member states would have access to the US markets (only country left standing), members would be protected militarily if need be (Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq War 1) in exchange for being ally to US against USSR, accepting that the US will write all security agreements for each country, and the US would be currency used. Once the USSR fell, the US didn't have to worry about them anymore and the US started moving away from the world. The US pulled out of the middle East (shale revolution made US energy independent) and no longer will guarantee free global trade to anyone except closest allies (England, Australia, Japan, and possibly singapore). According to Peter, once Russian federarion falls, the US will become isolationist for the next 20 years. Piracy and privateers will return and the US will welcome the chaos that comes will keep the US as the hegemony of the world. China will fall. Africa will suffer famine and Europe will revisit its former colonies. SWA will be screwed. Iran and Saudi Arabia will go to war. Energy supplies will dwindle. Specific to your question: the US Navy is blue focused on aircraft carriers that they can use to destroy nations and away. They are no longer creating destroyers (only 80) and need 700 to patrol the oceans.

[@tulipalll]

I was going to reply but OBCANE nailed iI. TLDR We used to be the world's coast guard to bribe people to help us against the soviets. It worked so we don't care anymore. And the shale/fracking revolution has freed us from dependence upon Arabian oil.

[@overscoresam948]

@@obcane3072 Ok so who had the new golden age or piracy in the 2030s in their Bingo Cards

[@richardhighsmith]

Super-carrier groups project power; destroyers patrol oceans. The US Navy now projects power.

[@drorbenami4827]

The problem with Peter is that there are 15 videos going around where he says the exact same thing....

[@namelesswarrior4760]

The China-Expert that never got one of his China predictions right. Ever.

[@brotherbig4651]

He got the China housing market collapse pretty accurately right.

[@namelesswarrior4760]

@@brotherbig4651 Ok.

[@dallassegno]

I know right. Just full of it. Being loud is how you fail upward

[@javierv-z2q]

Well, there’s a bunch of them coming inside of the US from TJ now

[@faketrump3605]

pretty dumb to me. "destroyed"? right. that's why we could not find anything made in China nowadays.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

They did this on purpose.

[@VC-pq3ui]

I can't even believe a word this man said on the topic. The math isn't math-ing.

[@ClaudioCarrera-j6o]

You believe what the ccp says dont you lol

[@dallassegno]

His inaccuracies are consistent.

[@art-is-lazy4509]

Dam, Mr positive

[@guruprasadf07]

Brave New World coming !!!

[@MbisonBalrog]

So one child policy is bad and overpopulation is bad, then it is fucked anyways.

[@kmoov90]

It's all about balance.

[@tulipalll]

@@kmoov90 exactly

[@tulipalll]

Demographic Balance is everything. If the population is 90% babies that's a severe problem If the population is 90% 90 year Olds, that's a problem.

[@MbisonBalrog]

@@tulipalll there is also the total number of people. China was overcrowding. And I doubt the actual ratio of young and old are that extreme.

[@tulipalll]

@@MbisonBalrog if you have data to the contrary I'm sure some folks would be really interested in that.

[@sethgraham4836]

More like the "No Child Policy"

[@MoneyMan28]

Did you fail math? 1.5 Billion eating poopers

[@dallassegno]

China has half the population they say at most.

[@emryswelsh2553]

😮

[@danielnavarro5369]

Dirty pieces of furniture?

[@michelbisson6645]

yes that is right and now we do such woke policies regularly in the west...

[@julianshepherd2038]

What, like letting women work ? The unwoke Russia is fkd

[@gfys756]

​@@julianshepherd2038Your wife's three boyfriends appreciate your tolerance 👍

[@sH-ed5yf]

​@@gfys756what a bullshit comment 😂

[@chipseal9403]

Yahweh is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.

[@foxbat1766]

Um... thanks?

[@sethgraham4836]

The name of the Lord is a strong tower!

[@terrencedrainer8193]

Fairy tales won’t help anyone.

[@chipseal9403]

@@terrencedrainer8193 What is your highest authority, and what has he done? Has he created matter, or time, or space?

[@frankorellana3406]

Amen

[@iamsheep]

"They haven't advanced technologically in the last 15 years" LOL this guy is full of lies and half truths all wrapped around a narrative that sounds reasonable to the people who look things up.

[@xXTUCXx1]

They haven't, others have and they have either copied or purchased. That's them not advancing

[@paulryan2128]

"... sounds reasonable to the people who look things up. " As opposed to you, who already knows everything? Is that the take-away you're going for??!

[@midweekcentaur1050]

He literally says right before your quote that they haven't developed their own tech, not that they don't have tech.

[@iamsheep]

@@midweekcentaur1050 he is literally wrong.

[@mushtaqueqazi5970]

@@xXTUCXx1 chinese infrastructure of high speed rails, highways and bridges is unmatched in the entire world so his allegation of intellectual property theft if just heresay.

[@ahmedlusajogibbonsmwaikamb6099]

this guy 🤣

[@ashleymercedesdiaz]

Peter is always right and wrong

[@traviswall1982]

I want my 7+ minutes back.

[@firefly9838]

Ignorance is bliss for some I suppose

[@redman6790]

Very biased and should take with a pinch of salt however I do agree with the global demographic collapse

[@khan6831]

I don't think I've ever witnessed one person being so wrong on so many different subjects in a single interview

[@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

You really aren't paying attention lol

[@thomasprice7893]

Seething thirdie detected

[@khan6831]

​@@thomasprice7893 inbred hillbilly meter going crazy right now

[@thomasprice7893]

@@khan6831 ...a hillbilly named "Thomas Price"?

[@immortaljanus]

That's cute.

[@tormentedterror]

Sole believer of one child policy.

[@1990-w1l]

well one child policy work really well, CCP just make their population shrinking and a lot of teen can't find their couple because their run out of female

[@mizztia5303]

You guys know nothing when U really listen

[@jezcorrigan651]

I feel like this guy is talking shit

[@ClaudioCarrera-j6o]

What do you know? Are you educated in Geopolitics? Genuinely interested…

[@jezcorrigan651]

@@ClaudioCarrera-j6o I don’t need one. I have common sense. He thinks the likes of China are that short sighted not to see this issue coming? He’s hardly come up with some genius insight here China are projected to be the most powerful country in the World within 20 years Yet this guy thinks they’re doomed in less than 10? He’s chatting shit to sell his book

[@zezrom123]

Since when can’t men have children by themselves?

[@perkeles23dobre59]

No uterus

[@zipperpillow]

@@perkeles23dobre59 What about butt-babies?

[@lewispalmer7964]

Peter is good at minimizing history.unfortunately he tells the side of the colonizers and little else.

[@jonny-b4954]

Example?

[@vitigaymer1053]

Cope

[@RED--01]

No bro it didn't destroy them. And the young parents now are having a bunch of children.. I never see one person actually nailing when talking about China.

[@valetudo1569]

So I live in China, and you are wrong. The average age of marriage in the big cities is in the low 30's, and most couples have maybe one kid after marriage... and an increasing amount of people - none. The only people I've met who have more than one kid are extremely financially well-off. Zeihan is a bit hyperbolic on the result but his analysis on demographic structure is spot on. 1 child policy + insanely fast urbanization killed the birthrate here.

[@RED--01]

@@valetudo1569 I also have been living in China bro.. there are no lack of children everywhere here close to Shanghai. Fuck .. every single couple has at least 1 child ffs..cant even go to a market on a weekend..

[@xxdaggerxx5]

@@RED--01 i have never seen a Chinese family with more then 2 kids.

[@valetudo1569]

@@RED--01 So just because you see a lot of kids around, doesn't mean there isn't a "lack of children". Thats a bit small-minded... when you see that the vast majority of families only have 1 child (with 2 parents) - that is the "lack of children". 2 people only making one additional person... what do you think that will do the working age population in 20 years? You do the math.

[@RED--01]

@@xxdaggerxx5 lol my wife's family has it.. my wife and her brother.. LOL..I also have 3 families of students that have 2 kids...I think you guys just don't really care to look for..

[@_cali187x_3]

So most of their population is old ? How when they got the biggest army in the world

[@ClaudioCarrera-j6o]

sound so stupid lol

[@ScentlessSun]

Because of the size of the population. His point is their population size is collapsing due to a demographic collapse caused by the one child policy. He’s right. Their population is starting to shrink now.