Joe Rogan & Vinnie Paz on Mumble Rap

[@davidnewell7183]

Vinnie paz one of the most underrated hip hop artists of all time

[@zNinjuhGaming]

Underrated fucking comment

[@mrsmith7936]

no

[@breitemasse]

don eladio is a dope song

[@kingjudas8883]

And Stoop and Hologram

[@ELTUK82]

He's dope. The whole crew is

[@voteZDLR]

Oh my God I got a newfound respect for Joe Rogan, that he knows who Vinnie Paz is at all and has him on his show, that's dope.

[@davidpfeifer9489]

voteZDLR Joes posted shit on Twitter about AOTP when he working out The Rock is a fan too

[@AbdulRashidYakubu]

Same here. Plus him listing the rap he listens to. He could DJ and I'd go to that party

[@slingslangwithjmobz8979]

Hell yeah

[@LosBerkos]

Sure, it's a miracle that a podcast interviewer on his 1174th episode would know who a celebrity he has as a guest is.

[@slayersangelripper83]

He also has an interview with Immortal Tech

[@benjaminjeanes998]

Gangstarr will never be forgotten!! Rip GURU..

[@chroniclife420isaac4]

Benjamin Jeanes it will be because of the mumble bs

[@SomeJustice19k]

@@chroniclife420isaac4 nah. As long as my white ass is on this earth, Gang Starr will never be forgotten.

[@tym5583]

I'm a white guy from Utah that his shit was the realest hip hop I've ever heard!! May he rest in peace up in the clouds were his sounds are original👌

[@mainsource8030]

@@tym5583 lyrical sounds create miracles, niiiccee!!!!

[@0ater]

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4

[@DarthmallE]

Vinnie Paz is such a legend. We are blessed to have him🙌

[@danielmckendrick1371]

Respect to vinnie for his measured and respectful responses. He never says anything negative about another culture, he just focuses on the positives or says simply "i'm detached form that".

[@ddffgdjfjvhdn4702]

I like Vinnie Paz’s music, but if you listened to more than 2 songs, you would know that’s not true

[@emanuellewis6054]

​@@ddffgdjfjvhdn4702yup

[@SpaceGhostPurps]

Damn, hearing Joe Rogan mentioning GangStar is crazy RIP Guru

[@panthershockey4453]

he use to bring them up quite a bit on his old podcasts before #200

[@JG-oh7te]

Are you working? What kind of work do you do?

[@MD-my7ir]

Guru was from Boston Roxbury to be exact R.i.p Legend

[@dannymarley5462]

Mass appeal

[@vincentleone4829]

FULL CLIP DO U WANNA MESS WIT THIS!!!

[@williamwright7059]

Vinnie is one of the best MCs of all time!

[@weedsmith9317]

For sure KAAN is personal my Top mc but vinnie def top 5 I play Daily

[@weedsmith9317]

@Tinkleboy You haven't a clue who KAAN is clearly. You thinki Vinnie goes around killing people? Yeah that's what i thought. Fan Boy? Your names not Vinnie Paz. Dumb

[@ΒΞΔΝ]

@Matt Tinkelman Say what you will, but what Vinnie did in the early 90's with JMT is kind of legendary, and he is a pioneer of independent underground hip hop. One of the first groups to blow without a major label to back them, and he put on many talented people over the years.

[@ΒΞΔΝ]

@Matt Tinkelman You can look at it that way i suppose, or you can see it for what it is. The way I see it is Vin was smarter than the few that hate him now. Vinnie managed tours, albums, production, ect. With so many hands out it's hard to please everyone for a long period of time. Guys like King Mag, Dez, Doap, ect still acting like goons into their 40's. Vinnie is not going to let others ruin what he built. I actually have some deep insight into that scene being friends with Esoteric, and know quite a bit of behind the scenes with the recent beefs. The truth is the vast majority of his peers highly respect him, and treat him like a blood brother for a reason. You see it all the time in life with people who only care for themselves, they will act like they love you until you cannot give to them anymore, and then it turns to hate instead of appreciation for what was done. The "using" was coming from the other end.

[@ΒΞΔΝ]

@Matt Tinkelman You right about some of his unoriginality for sure. He has been known to use things he did not create on more than one occasion, and that is what most of the beef is over. There were lots of handshake agreements that got turned on for both sides, from album art, to verses on albums, tour dates, features, and more. I can also agree it's mostly gimmick with any of the horrorcore shit he creates, but let's be honest only probably 5% of any rappers live the lyrics throughout time when it comes to gangster shit right up to the biggest names. I am much more of a fan of his heartfelt songs over the AOTP stuff or bangers on his recent solo albums that is all gimmick. I cannot argue that point, but from what I hear his heart has always been in the right place, and never set out to rise himself over others. I only met him once, and def do not know him on a personal level what so ever, but from all the stories I have heard over the years about him from working the Boston club scene as security he's not a bad person.

[@asnieze]

Dude has always been this insightful. From the start. One of the most intellectually engaged minds in the game.

[@kevinryan6759]

I never forgot about gang starr

[@boosted211]

i put in work and watch my status escalate

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

Above the Clouds RIP

[@marspl]

R I P GURU

[@sickfoo5506]

Where the sounds are original. Infinite styles create miracles.

[@lakersfansince1991]

What I'm here 4 is a beautiful song

[@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551]

Thanks for having V Paz on dude, The underground is where Hip Hop lives as a fan of Hip Hop since I'm 8 and I'm 42. Vin's type music is perfect for me.

[@iKitchenRich]

You a fuckin og hip hop head. Big upps to you fam. Thank you for keeping it solid. Since 8, to 42, thats a statement fam. Be you and stay blessed

[@CrowsDescend]

Exactly, it's good to have Vinnie P on because underground Hip Hop is where it's truly at, none of this soundcloud mumble rap shit.

[@dnkzn3184]

Anthony Arcanum Sanctum Regnum you and I are on the same page. I’m 43 and also been listening to Hip Hop since I was 8. Been a big fan ever since. I love Jedi Mind Tricks and a lot of East Coast hip-hop. Perfect type of music for me as well. Congrats on keeping it real for this long.

[@theexpert5085]

I feel u...I'm 41 beat listening to hip hop since 12_13...real east coast hip hop

[@levisummers4900]

Same here man I just started listening to him 5 months ago I bought 2 of vinnys albums I really liked the army of pharaohs and then I learned about Celph titled and bought one of his albums now I listen to it daily

[@TheeRemnants]

AOTP hands down one the hardest hip hop groups in history.

[@jontraz5993]

IN HISTORY

[@lockshabaz1876]

Yeah each member solo shit stand on its own just like wu members. Its a true supergroup

[@rosswhitehill3207]

Prefer Jedi Mind Tricks

[@travissutton3962]

@@rosswhitehill3207 both have same features. Its like a puzzle piece. Curtain rappers are good at curtain pieces where you need some raw raps and they may need to fill a coris spot. Vinnie started both but if you like one you have to atleast like a few songs from the other.

[@LtDansLegs69]

Big facts...esoteric,apathy,straight heat 🔥

[@heartbreakrichy5826]

“I’m not worried about a bad movie I’d rather go watch a dope movie” Best quote

[@cyanidechrist]

Lol you must be banged up.

[@quest4certainty895]

Vinnie Paz is THE man! Intelligent, well spoken, great lyricist, diverse musical taste... The WHOLE package. Interesting career, interesting artist. Much respect!

[@partykrew666]

Is it just me or does Vinnie Paz look like Patton Oswald if he gree up in a rough neighborhood?

[@cleanclean4031]

They both sexy :)

[@chasejackson7248]

Have you ever seen them in the same place.

[@josephalexander4561]

Vinnie Patt

[@dnkzn3184]

Joseph Alexander 😂

[@theduhscripshunn5476]

People been saying they look alike for years !

[@moonstrike5999]

Imagine a generation down the line when the old mumble rappers throw shade at whatever abomination spawns next in hip hop lol.

[@humphreysmiggens3881]

Jay Baker grunt rap

[@weean8084]

Downs rap

[@marklinsmith5174]

@@humphreysmiggens3881 already been done with master pee and DMX

[@jimalj]

This is exactly what has been happening for generations lmfao and will continue 2

[@eddie6548]

Hardcore emo metal rap with substance lyrically

[@jdstko1]

This man has more integrity then 90% of all hip hop artists

[@mrcooki3]

We need an interview with R.A the Rugged man ... shit would be crazy

[@Sheenoobie]

@Jeremy Backman on a serious note icp are very educated in music and what they do in life. Itd be an amazing interview

[@Crustapher]

Icp are genius. Been a juggalo a long time and they are smart business men. They literally have their own culture and helped make horrorcore mainstream and a successful genre of music.

[@LANGI902]

God damn right

[@craigstrachan]

@Jeremy Backman Now that interview i would interested in seeing . As much as people wanna hate on them they tapped into a market that most wouldn't have even thought about and made a career out of it .Been a die hard ICP fan for years and they have earned the respect of a lot of die hard fans . They haven't done much lately but still legends in my book .

[@craigstrachan]

@Jeremy Backman Wouldn't mind seeing that interview myself . they're now considered legends in the hip hop community which is kinda funny cause in the beginning hip hop wouldn't even acknowledge them but they did carve out a niche that worked and tapped into a fanbase that few would . Been a die hard fan for yrs. and respect to them .

[@leebrandon3842]

holy shit how is vinnie paz on rogans podcast?? so crazy man. im a huge underground hip hop fan and paz is one of my faves. so cool for rogan to have him on. love it.

[@theoblivion9568]

LEE BRANDON . Wow. I was surprised to see him on Joes podcast too. Vinnie's the man. So underrated. Would love to see Apathy on this show one day too.

[@ComboBreakerHD]

Right? I'm blown away rn. Should see the look I get when I call Jus Allah one of the top 5 rappers of all time. Vinnie is right up there.

[@Synochra]

Yep same reaction here. Fucking love Vinnie. Gotta watch that episode

[@greenmatrix30seven]

Ik man. It’s like the coolest thing. And I’m a huge army of the pharaohs/Jedi mind tricks fan. So...this is just fantastic

[@SHAKA-NEU-LU]

LEE BRANDON it’s not underground, it’s overground

[@SOLE_II_SOUL]

Never did I think I'd see Vinnie Paz on the Joe Rogan Experience ... Bless!

[@Sippinskooma]

Ricardo Cortez de la Cruz II right? Was just thinking the same thing

[@jay-dee5.562]

Homie looks like a gangster version of Patton Oswalt🤣

[@RandomBoxingGuy]

😂😂😂 Spot On bruh, you win today!

[@jesuslovesyou5681]

Omg he does lol why you gotta cap on Pistol Pazzi

[@jesuslovesyou5681]

@Matt Tinkelman you know Vinnie Paz?

[@matthew-epurnell1610]

YOOOOOO! :) That is fucking funn-EEE!

[@pacolivingston718]

😆

[@MrSxesamuel]

I’ve been listening to Vinnie for about 9 years and I’m 21. He and the rest of AOTP and Jedi Mind Tricks helped shape my childhood/life.

[@Cosmystery]

kewl dude

[@thamomentum]

Straight up. Too underated

[@round1.]

same here

[@vemden547]

I'm very sorry to hear that

[@RyanJones4444]

Same here been listening for around 10 years. I'm 24. You should check out the 90's and 80's man. Big daddy Kane ,Rakim , KRS one. Pete Rock n CL smooth. You'd be surprised how fucken good the golden eras were man.

[@rockouts]

Vinnie P and Joe? Wow never in my wildest dreams.

[@EquiNoxM]

Gimme roe jogan back. But yeah door interview.

[@warpigs4874]

I just went to a Jedi mind tricks concert a week ago in Philly. Never in a million years would I have guessed Vinnie P would be on a podcast with joe lol

[@ETAisNOW-wn8wx]

@@EquiNoxM lol tf

[@dinomcnuggets2357]

The opioid, Xanax, and lean epidemic in todays youth is the breading ground for mumble rap. You ever listen to a heroin addict, a xan head, or someone on lean talk? Ye it sounds exactly like these rappers. You can't understand a single word they are saying.

[@maruchannuudle657]

Have you heard Joyner Lucas version of Panda? Good listen hahahah

[@HillyfieldProductionsClonmel]

Spot on, it’s based on the drugs they take, Xanax sounds like mumble rap

[@Dankman9]

Lot's of drugs make you talk like that.

[@dinomcnuggets2357]

I know

[@ShaithMaster]

I find it hilarious that a lot of kids talk about "lean" as if it's their thing, like we weren't fuckin around with it 10 years ago in high school lol A serious lack of self awareness in today's youth

[@dx4life68]

Love how Vinny Paz always reps proper metal.

[@thesailorette1819]

He has an extensive metal and hardcore background

[@mikemelissakis9513]

Man i cant believe you got vinnie paz there!! Salute rogan you killed it with this one!! Vinnie a legent!!

[@timspencer3185]

Art reflects society

[@GoodFellasBpong]

Can’t say that any clearer brother.

[@2beJT]

Popular art reflects successful marketing campaigns of the past.

[@wustenfuchs3285]

Tim Spencer “art”

[@Love.Laugh.Lorcana.]

Or does society reflect art?

[@jasonkmvang]

And society is clearly confused lol

[@peterortiz1160]

IMO mumble rap is just a phase of hip hop just like crunk rap was. Mumble rap recently just began and it’s already played out and it’ll be gone soon. No matter what phase hip hop is in the mcs that have skill will always be around and will always have the top spot.

[@kafelaroux504]

Peter Ortiz I'm an mc thank you 🙏

[@BreeziestHDFTW]

Peter Ortiz I think mumble rap is only popular because it’s usually a good beat but shitty rap that knows how to match the flow

[@BreeziestHDFTW]

Rapper*

[@INIR2]

Unfortunately "Mumble Rap" isn't going anywhere. It started in 2011-2012 and its almost 2020 in a couple of years. You fail to realize that Hip-Hop is still a "Young Mans Sport". It's reflective of the youth & generation. No matter how degenerative or dysfunctional it is. Many of the new wave of rapper cite these rappers as their influence: 1)Chief Keef (Keep in mind he's still only 21-22) 2)Gucci Mane 3)Lil' B 4)Lil' Wayne 5)Waka Flocka Flame Note: Honorable Mention - Soulja Boy Now take the names I mentioned. And the music of the "new wave" which influences the culture of today. The next wave of rappers will be just as bad or worst than the current generation of rappers. You will see a new wave of "Lil' Pumps, 6ix9ines, and Xxxtentacions" in the next ten years. It's best to find another genre or literally find artist who still have substance, if you still can find any after 2020.

[@THISISRISE]

No future been doing it for almost a decade

[@HonkeyKongLive]

I'm 21 seconds in and already reminded of why I love Paz. I got plenty of disagreements over his lyrical content but damn the man is astute and genuine.

[@willshogren1987]

End of Days is silly garbage. Paz doesn't really have a coherent political vision so one song will be a really tremendous and factual summary of a Howard Zinn book and the next will be complete nonsense about how Al Qaeda and the Saudi Wahabists are freedom fighters. He's still a weapons grade MC and a charming guy.

[@hahppyhour5380]

facts

[@texassoul7649]

Jedi mind tricks!

[@poppy3357]

@Matt Tinkelman the fuck is you taking about bitch boy

[@poppy3357]

@Matt Tinkelman you replied so fast LOL imagine battyman

[@BlyGuy]

Jedi Mind, heavenly divine

[@BlyGuy]

@Matt Tinkelman why? What's his deal?

[@cypotix1264]

Matt Tinkelman damn bro what Vinnie do to you piss in your cereal ?

[@voxydian2689]

Mumble rap made me love old rap again... and the industry sent me searching underground... there is still good shit out there... one of them you showed me on this channel... thank you Mr. Rogan

[@LordRupertEverton626]

The one and only Pazmanian Devil. Hail Jedi Mind Tricks

[@underground4012]

Yesssiir. Ill be picking up that album today

[@kryptickodex3846]

Box cutter!

[@knowstradamusucka5713]

LuisTheSteel Gonzalez i couldn’t believe he was on jre box cutter paszzy!!!!!

[@chiefn3]

Go stillers

[@asherlocketz7542]

Vinnie Paz diplomatically expressed his distaste for, what i view, as an absolutely idiotic genre.

[@alexmoreno7636]

I mean he said he doesn’t mind it, you hear whatever you want to listen to

[@dadon6055]

absolutely idiotic generation* Fixed that for you.

[@benbillings3237]

@@dadon6055 you sound really young and cool

[@dadon6055]

@@benbillings3237 there is no such thing as young and cool anymore only young lazy rude self entitled narcissistic and dumb.

[@jontraz5993]

@@dadon6055 and you're the judge and jury of that huh

[@Logicalpsycho2323]

OH SHIT JOE HAS VINNIE ON!? Hell yeah! wow :)

[@murdock6450]

who is vinnie?

[@Alexb72219]

your pic doesn't look like you listen to rap, this is not Vinnie from Forbes

[@freedomfighter1861]

Vinnie Paz- End of days, your welcome m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJfVe2abZc2rhqc

[@SenseofBeyond]

Right??? That was exactly my reaction as well

[@latteartcity]

JMT

[@generationfallout5189]

Much love to you Vinnie. You are looking healthy and mentally strong. Good work brother.

[@225jigpole]

Jedi Mind Tricks!!!! Paz one of the best ever!

[@ThereForWar]

He’s going down as one of the greatest MCs to walk the earth along with immortal technique, rugged man, pretty much all of AOTP, outer space, Reel wolf and of course Jedi mind, also ill bill! We are privileged to grow up in this gen with all these stars!!!

[@youngjunlim5704]

you think immortal technique is one of the greatest MCs to walk the earth? you need yo ass beat

[@JacobOman-qb1lm]

Immortal technique is a leftwing communist clown.

[@TheSikadelik]

Reel wolf ain't a group nor an artist .... All of AOTP?? Lol do you even know all the members? And which aotp because there was many versions of it. Lol. But I get what you're saying.

[@maddizzle1776able]

No mumble rap is lazy garbage. The producer should get more credit than the rapper

[@b-m9480]

No,*/No.*

[@aaronanderson7619]

Says a producer of a shit rapper

[@mattreed1382]

That's your opinion. But you're right the producers do deserve a little more credit.

[@bluu_ice6554]

Actually the producer should get slapped for making the same beat over and over

[@mattreed1382]

Lil Pump but no one's gonna listen to Gucci Gang with no beat. Gotta have both.

[@Jknudsen0523]

I'm laughing so hard. We're officially old. GET OFF MY LAWN!!

[@ShaithMaster]

Old is in your mind, you dont have to be "old" to know this shit is garbage.

[@bobbydigital3061]

Exactly nick, I'd rather listen to 90's hip hop and I'm young. The old stuff is better

[@JimmyJames10-k7v]

Bobby Digital wow what a special snowflake

[@CrowsDescend]

@@ShaithMaster Very true, Nick.

[@updod88]

@@ShaithMaster you're a great guy, Nick

[@541Stakk]

Vinnie Paz is a legend far as I'm concerned, I can't stand these modern mumble rapping drugged out hipsters in skinny jeans bro, I grew up in the 90's/2000's on baggy jeans big t-shirts an good rap and rock

[@hayatefaith4273]

Lmaoo

[@babazsi_2172]

there was an interview where vinnie said he fucks with migos, gucci, future, chief keef

[@jimmyneptune9337]

I've been a fan of Vin Paz for a very long time and he ALWAYS HARD,AND ALWAYS REAL

[@partykrew666]

Holy shit. Never thought I'd see Vinnie on jre.

[@beandaddydoggratt9714]

Not even bein bias cuz im from philly to but Vinnie is the most underrated rapper hes one of the best of all time and the money NEVER got to him

[@jonnyaufiero4622]

BeanDaddy DoggRatt Ive liked vinnie for years but he def hasn’t seen real rapper money

[@beandaddydoggratt9714]

Jonny Aufiero well there is the argument of what real rapper money is but I do know what mean and I totally agree

[@Parialated]

Black thought though?

[@beandaddydoggratt9714]

prive naam of coarse all day

[@underground4012]

@@jonnyaufiero4622 Vins worth a couple mil man. Might not seem like it but hes got his hands on JMT (obviously), AOTP, HMK, and more. Matter of fact his next solo album drops tomorrow, dudes a workaholic lol always on tour

[@tomp2008]

The 5 elements of this generation's hiphop: mumble rapping, auto-tune, face tats, poppin' molly, have "Lil ..." in your name

[@jfry5577]

Nailed it

[@IETCHX69]

55 year old guitar player here . My name is Skinny . About to change it to Lil' Skins . cuz i needs the Benji-doodles

[@sailcasey7917]

Tom P. 💯👏👏👏👍

[@DIGITALMENACE]

bahaha you hit the painted nail on the head lolol

[@extraspooky819]

Sad but true.

[@micahtiedemann4654]

"I don't see why most of ya'll wanna be thugs anyhow, pay the consequence." - Gang Starr. One of the best MCs to ever do it

[@xavierbrown3305]

“They might just slobber in a corner”😂😂😂😂

[@Fiachbuay1987]

Right? LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Razvan90]

For those saying that 6ix9ine is not a mumble rapper, you're right, he's an opera singer

[@morg8735]

PFFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHHAHAHAAH

[@kingi-sick2485]

Razvan Radu hes not a mumble rapper you have to mumble to be a mumble rapper

[@CharlieTooHuman]

He’s not a mumble rapper... He’s riding on the previous successes of cats like Lil Jon and Bone Crusher. His style is more akin to that dirty south crunk music people were bumpin in the 2000’s.... Though he has been getting more quiet with his delivery lately now that hes blown up

[@kingi-sick2485]

Charlie To0 Human exactly

[@2ndNatureHairSolutions]

Tekashi is much more than that, he’s a Top Tier striker for Mexico’s International team, while goal keeping for Barcelona. Step aside Ter Stegen, there’s a new guero in town.

[@kno1nowon196]

Vinnie paz is awesome

[@frankhernandez5060]

Vinny is a real Mc!Real HipHop!!!🔥👍

[@JaxBlade]

I honestly dont care for Mumble Rap, I like rap with lyrics and bars that make me go OH DAMN that was fire like Old Tupac and Biggie Smalls, and honestly if they are mumble rapping over a good beat I always just look up an instrumental of that beat cause the mumbling takes away from the track to me tbh.

[@Ritalie]

Yeah, a good rap beat stands alone. Words can often ruin it if the person isn't talented enough to work with the beat.

[@yargkcirtap8946]

It used to be poetry. Then it was a battle, east vs west. Then it was getting played on Pop radio for recogination, and now its social media

[@xAZHeadx]

@oddun absolutely, I'm God is an incredible instrumental. With the MC it's unlistenable.

[@urban1413]

JaxBlade way to tell it like is brother.

[@papisnorlax2148]

Couldn’t of said it better

[@haytam98]

lil joe

[@marz4315]

Young rogan

[@Rat_Intelligence]

Ol' Jeezy

[@Pheromx]

Biggie J-Ro

[@ronniehotdogs8955]

Yung Rogan

[@dannydontworryaboutit5121]

JRE 420 guicc gang

[@jstagzsr]

I hope vinnie pazz get SOOOOO many new followers from being on the JRE.. Vinnie pazz is one of the greatest rappers of all time. He doesnt get the spotlight he deserves.

[@shawnstarr6005]

How has it been a year without me knowing about this episode of Joe Rogan? Grew up on Jedi mindtricks, Aesop rock, slug, living legends, and many more..

[@Drainitallday]

Joe Rogan just earned 10 cool points in my book with the Gangstarr shout out

[@OptimusPrime1991]

Drainitallday yeah very forgotten . remember listening to gangstarr in 2005

[@pumppuhaulikkomies]

10 cool points from me too. Joe knows hiphop. Still to this day I think "moment of truth" is one of the best hiphop albums ever made. RIP Guru. And Dj Premier is STILL making classic tunes. It's amazing.

[@dvc6416]

Drainitallday or just having Paz on. Wuuut

[@NelsonMandela1999]

facts

[@dansheppard2411]

Them cool points are hard to earn.

[@grimm2748]

Awesome that Vinnie was on the show. Huge fan of him and the whole crew. Big up to Joe Rogan for great content as usual.

[@tomignacios3668]

Vinnie just hit us with the best take on the subject.

[@AccountabilityHub]

This was a phenomenal interview with one of the best MC’s of all time without a doubt. I just wish that Vinnie was a little less humble and that Joe delved deeper into the seriousness of his lyrics and extracted some insight on the super raw and undeniably violent shit that he spits. Would have been great to get an inside look on where that comes from. I’ve seen Paz perform in person twice and I’m not exaggerating when I say that this mans presence changes the temperature of the room... dude is no joke

[@JohnSmith-tn9ll]

I agree. This interview was way too tame. Vinny seemed to have humbled himself for what ever reason. It came across as though he reserved himself.

[@princepaul6739]

Yeah, I think Rogan was trying to keep it aggreeable.

[@Phil-S8]

Yo, Joe knows about Gang Starr - instantly got cooler

[@sud6646]

fuckin surprised he knew vinnie

[@robinirm650]

Sud It's been damn 4-6 years in the making. Joe had immortal technique on the podcast back in day also! check it out. cheers buddy

[@IsomSeales]

Hes from Boston

[@DLITINTHEHOUSE]

Nas is his favorite MC, so no doubt he knew Guru

[@matthewhorizon6050]

Omg, dont get me goin on 90s rap. Ill lose my cap!

[@Otaku_06]

Heavenly divine steadily shine ! Glad to see Vinnie Paz on this Podcast. 👌

[@celeste2045]

"They might just slobber in a corner." I'm going to laugh all day from the mental image those two gave me! Thank you! I needed it.

[@neighborhoodgutters7923]

4:34 So he's like asking her about a jacuzzi and she thinks he's ordering a pizza" LOL

[@idris09]

Vinnie is crazy insightful. Love the knowledge

[@njerujack]

"I'm not worried about a bad movie...." saluuut

[@TheBloomingBoom]

Joe brought up Gang Starr at the end, hell yeah

[@landonharris3660]

Pete Rock and CL Smooth another great duo

[@ethanarc]

"He's asking about the jacuzzi & she thinks he's ordering a pizza" 🤣 shit is so real 😂

[@cyberworld9000]

Wack music ha always been a thing. You just look back and remember the greats. But we’ve always had rich famous terrible musicians in every genre since the beginning of time. They just don’t get talked about much now since the shitty one’s stayed irrelevant over the test of time. But if you go back to refresh your memory we’ve always had bad music promoted to the top. Let’s be real.

[@DanTejedaFit]

Not like this, bro.

[@Danovio]

Diffrince being back in the days people actually needed to have some kind of talents, either able to play an instrument or atleast sing. ''Terrible'' isint the same because you dont like it, this is terrible, because its talentless shit spewing of no words. Hey you might not like an old psychadelic group from the 60's and maybe you find it shit, but atleast they had the talent to play and sing for themselves.

[@robpeter2paypaul]

Agree with you on that. I think the biggest difference is wack shit got no love back in the day. Now wack shit is the biggest thing out. The crazy part to me is a lot of these mumble rappers can actually rap if they wanted to. An example I was given by killer mike is future. He told me and my people one time having this same discussion that future was a rappers rapper. Straight spitter but he never went anywhere with it. Started the auto tune lean shit and blew up 🤷🏻‍♂️. So who the hell knows.

[@washn2hiphop40]

Part of the problem is record labels. Part ot the problem is radio stations. Part of the problem is lack of culture. Part of the problem is lack of originality. Hip hop wasn't always meant to be "cool" hip hop was meant to spread a message. Meant to educate in a different way in which most people can relate with. Radio staions and governments doesn't want rappers speaking truth and wisdom. They don't want the youth growing up with knowledge. They want sheep.

[@pedochees]

True but back then they weren’t held to high standards like they are now! Like I don’t remember people saying yo young mc is dope as fuck or vanilla ice is sick, now I have young kids looking at me like I’m crazy for NOT thinking young thug or lil uzi is dope!

[@mikebewb9549]

Great, now my old ass has to google "mumble rap"

[@shivermewhiskerzzzz6024]

Mike BEWB haha was just about to do the same thing 👍🏾

[@tylerh5990]

Same

[@nahmean7045]

Ignorance is bliss.

[@shivermewhiskerzzzz6024]

Never hearing that mumble rap horse shit again is bliss

[@killahlos7501]

😂😂

[@ANECKA99]

Joe Rogan is my favourite rapper

[@drevil8280]

Aleksa Kasavica #fuckyoupussy

[@simbeam]

Lol

[@dannydontworryaboutit5121]

Lil joe

[@barrychuckle2190]

Have you heard the new Roe Jogan diss track..he goes in on Joe.

[@TheEstowrath]

Vinnie Paz and R.A The Rugged Man. are both SUPER underrated artists and human beings.

[@ShaithMaster]

The wack music back in the day was usually recognized as silliness even during it's time and made fun of, aside from a few one hit wonders. Never was the wack music all that was played on the radio, all that was talked about in the music press and all that won any awards. Never was the only good music underground or indie. This is definitely a new phenomenon, primarily brought on by the fact that 20 somethings don't buy albums, in fact no one buys albums. It's all streaming ad revenue, and who has the time to stream constantly? 11-16 year olds using their parents' internet subscription. This is why modern music is geared toward children with underdeveloped frontal lobes as opposed to the 18-34 demographic like it always had been in the past.

[@WEF2030SLAVE]

Nick Coltrane amen

[@zaikoji]

Anthony Salerno he’s fucking right though.

[@mobileboomgamingthevillain754]

Milly vinilly or someshit

[@liquidgeorge]

@Anthony Salerno Sorry my friend, but you are lauding ignorance.

[@peterbetts858]

This is Near the brightest and funniest conversation i ve ever heard about rap .

[@babyjessicascheekbones5463]

When did Patton Oswalt get so gangsta?

[@austinlittke5580]

Dam that's harsh lol u just roasted him

[@weedlife13]

Damn, beat me to the Patton Oswalt joke. Respect.

[@dogrecordsnyc]

hahah for real you won the fuckin internet

[@Wanderer25]

Hahahaha points!

[@cannabiscountry4171]

I can't unsee this hahaha

[@cjh3llhound883]

You wanna party listen to mumble rap, you wanna open your mind listen to Paz.

[@peterluzon3698]

I would so love to see him podcast with Nardwuar

[@rocktekhne]

Did I just hear Joe Rogan mention Gang Starr ? Legendary music I implore you to do your research if you haven't heard of them & are interested in what pure Hip Hop sounds & feels like

[@nickhill4870]

amen!

[@flipdog9224]

Guru and preemo!

[@DefeatLust]

Gang Starrr baattle!!

[@dmx1721]

one of my fav duos of all time i miss guru

[@dtownlove10]

But in the end, it's still Guru and Premier.

[@tomashize]

LOL! What a great line! "Settle down man, you know they dont come off."

[@notsopatriotic]

@Carver G did someone with tattoos fuck your girl or something? Chill the fuck out.

[@Wolfgang421]

Wait a minute my man JOE knows Gangstar .... new level of respect unlocked

[@acesfullofkings1]

This is Soo dope, two of my favorite peeps collabing on the same show together!

[@sud6646]

cant believe you know vinnie paz

[@sambland3903]

Pffft more like i can't believe vinnie knows rogan.

[@thedaeron3877]

the problem with mumble rap is not necessarily the ''guy'' that does it... but the people listening to it... just WTF....

[@viclor2876]

So fucking true

[@KorDawg91]

They both suck....... wtf you talking about wank stain

[@doodjenkins4038]

Some people put that trap mumble rap bullshit at a party I had at my place and I kicked them out lol I didn’t know them either 😂

[@yarbo9900]

What about the radio and tv stations that play it? Kids will buy garbage as long as its in a cool package. These 'artists' are too young and high to make good descions. The managers and promoters are the ones behind mumble rap. There's still good stuff out there, it just doesn't get promoted.

[@dannydontworryaboutit5121]

THANK YOU YO !!

[@benpottsbeats1207]

Notice Vinnie rarely if ever talks about himself. Yet imo is one of the most phenomenal MC's of his era. Maybe even the most underated along with RA. Interview is refreshing and reinforces exactly why I like Vinnie and Jedi Mind Tricks. Talented and humble dude, who has many personal issues, but has the inner strength to overcome them and perform for us. Maybe an interview with Rugged Man in the future Mr. Rogan? 🤞

[@morminder4997]

Vinnie Paz > all mumble rappers

[@madisonbailey2564]

lol no

[@jake_mf_lowe9525]

Fact

[@infamoussydney1697]

@@madisonbailey2564 say what?

[@ipostrandomshit6853]

Matt Tinkelman not even close

[@ipostrandomshit6853]

Madison Bailey yes

[@Kiluei]

Gotta play muh Quake while listening to some Nas and eating a bit of Elk. It's healthy you know.

[@Faydid]

Kiei Luahi idk, the quake 2 soundtrack is so badass, that it needs no substitute

[@OptimusPrime1991]

hes so mediocre 🤣

[@naudzha8031]

*cracks can* pssst *sips* oh yeah quake was a good game

[@OptimusPrime1991]

dont forget asparagus, running hills, his dog marshall, bows n shit

[@SavantAudiosurf]

Sounds like a good time to me.

[@aylambo3604]

Gangstarr one of the best yet!🙏

[@Death2TheCore]

I wish joe would post this whole podcast!

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

Jedi Mind Tricks created some of the best rap ever. Vinnie looks and sounds like a Pirate and if he created Pirate rap it would probably still be A+ music. Vinnie looks good here, I remember around 2011 - 2012 he was boozing pretty heavy and looking sick. I wonder if he got sober.

[@joejo4549]

Alestrom fit a pirate niche, not rap though

[@PRINCEVIOLENT]

MY BLOODY MATEY 🏴‍☠️

[@kashtides]

I love how level-headed he is about it. So many people talking shit about mumble rap in the comments, but it is what it is. Even Vinnie can see it's just the new wave for this next generation of kids. Don't worry about what they're doing and support the music you DO love

[@AlbanianThrash]

It's def a generational thing and i'm glad he acknowledges that. you get older and you don't like the same shit anymore. or the new shit doesn't appeal to you because you're not 20 anymore. it's ok to get old gracefully and not try to feebly cling to your youth and not really understand what the kids are into anymore

[@TheWhiteJamesBrown]

Yes its drug culutre its not about the lyrics as much as the melody and the feeling and far as the phrase thing you repeatedly chant the same thing to make it stick

[@freeecountryy]

It also sucks, don't forget that aspect of it. The suck part.

[@TheWhiteJamesBrown]

@@freeecountryy personal opion i grew up on og hip hop but i still like a lot of what ppl call mumble rap i consider it alternative rap some is real ghetto trap shit and some will put you in a trance and some if you were tonread the lyrics its got bars its like nirvana all great songs and lyrics but he distorted words on purpose because its about the music and the feeling it gives you

[@SetNtrenz]

So if I understand how you are explaining it then all it is is trance or trap with someone mumbling over the beat? All trance music was the same chorus over and over to a beat. I can see why kids and young adults like it because it is different. Listening back to No Limit Soliders and shit like that that we thought was the shit 20 years ago is absolutely terrible now but our parents and adults didnt like or get it so we thought it was amazing LMAO

[@vjekobasic7059]

What melody?

[@TheWhiteJamesBrown]

@@SetNtrenz right and shit if no limit aint mumble rap with juveniles Ha then idk whit is but i wouldng call it shit now those is classics still bagin C murder 2018

[@zeikerd]

slayer, black flag, minor threat....now that's my line-up!

[@luketimmins2170]

Fuck yeah! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@spurezurko]

egg zak lee!

[@emogothboii]

Generic

[@antnee8377]

"I listen to Nas" foreal Joe, I miss the days of True MC's not these new age trash "rapper's" ... I still just listen to old shit Nas, Big L, Big pun, Wutang, the lox, ect...

[@Sheenoobie]

Check out the palmer squares. Specifically Accs first verse on Stay Stupid. Highly reccomend

[@sydjonah9556]

Wutag

[@aidenwood2273]

Dawg there’s still better lyricists out there than all the guys you mentioned besides pun maybe. Check out Joey badass, earl sweatshirt, Kendrick, jid, Bishop Nehru, Mach hommy

[@michaelclarkin8984]

Aiden Wood Yeah today’s rappers have better lyrics and wordplay than nas Bold statement that pal 🤦‍♂️

[@aidenwood2273]

michael clarkin I didn’t say that, I said there ARE rappers who have that skill and beyond. Not all modern rappers are better. If you have twist my words that far to come up with a response, which was still shit, why even say anything fam?

[@ApplemaxxMusicMedia]

Big ups thankyou for the service to hiphop and lyricism

[@Ostsol]

Mumble rap is what Swedes call Danish rap.

[@Degofhas]

Talking while repeatedly a getting broom rammed up your ass is what Danes call Swedish. I've heard about a new trend in Sweden where you would have immigrants doing it to you 😘

[@yalhearddawg7522]

Degofhas lol someone took the bait

[@pyromaan8799]

Degofhas what? If someone could take 10 seconds to compare Swedish and Danish, you would be able to hear the alphabet in Swedish words. Meanwhile, Danish, sounds literally like someone has a BBC down their throat. You can never sort out the words. Its like talking whilst being strangled. Danes, the littlebrothers. Also funny when they dont think they have a MAJOR problem with immigrants. So bad they banned the burqa. Not that I care about the burqa.

[@newroo2000]

Nä det gör vi inte. Sluta ljug.

[@deanmeat3427]

@@pyromaan8799 I'm quarter Danish, quarter Swedish, half Finnish and a third Mexican. From my uncle's side. So whilst I enjoy talking whilst getting a broom shoved up my ass, I also enjoy a BBC down my throat. And Enchiladas with guacamole. Life is about choices.

[@ThereForWar]

He’s the king of the underground! The Goat and helped raise me!

[@wildamerican2771]

Rakim basically made the 18th letter in the image of new school style and crushed it. He got it. The 90s were still considered the golden era. I WOULD DARE SAY THAT Rakim would listen to Ludacris and Nelly. This mumble rap shit is on another level of stupid.

[@andrewp9290]

Wild American west side is de best

[@anthonycelestin3559]

Luda was a great rapper who had lyrics but he had a lot of party anthems so people lump him with the rapper who dont care about the craft. Nelly wasnt a great lyricist & didnt have skill as an MC at all but his melodies were really good & he crafted great songs that had structure in it even though he was nothing more than a pop rapper, Hot in Here & Coutry Grammy are more organic records that have structure in it compared to a repetitive Gucci Gang song like Lil Pump that sounds obnoxious

[@ClarksonFisherIII]

Respect but I can't see Rakim listening to Nelly. If I'm wrong then I don't wanna be right. Lol

[@JahEerie]

"Mumblin up a storm" 👏👏👏😂😂😂

[@calibomber209]

Jedi mind tricks. The youth will never know. Hiphop is a form of lyricism with elements of breakdancing, mc, graffiti and Dj’s.

[@SolidSullivan]

Emcceein, Deejayin, Breakin, Writin

[@winnerlawal8414]

Hip Hop is a culture, not a form of anything.

[@gbreal8391]

Im 20 and have known about them since I was 15

[@MrLaMoutte]

everything evolves, nothing stay the same, you got to adapt to survive, not different for music, food, clothing, etc etc

[@jasonkmvang]

calibomber209 in avatar they for got the last bender ... the word bender ... amble to bend bars and rhymes to his will.

[@itsyaboyarchie1182]

Vinnie and ill bill and necro best rappers ...super articulate.

[@rampage2587]

I know that happens where the old generation calls the new generations musi c garbage because they don't understand it. Like adults in the 60s thought the beetles were garbage. But they were actually really musically talented. Same with the 70s. Led Zeppelin and pink Floyd. Considered rock and roll garbage buy adults but actually really good. I think mumble rap is its own special case where for once the old generation is actually right and it's garbage.

[@Danovio]

-Right?!?! yeah the older generations feelt like music in the 60's 70's etc was shit, but lets be honest here, they can sing, they can play thier instruments, they litterly create real music and real lyrics, they actually proforme!.... repeating one word is not hard.

[@bobthebuilder6553]

@@Danovio that's if they are even 'singing' that one word, and not just lip syncing.

[@rampage2587]

m p you mean ..you're

[@bobthebuilder6553]

@@Markpichot I'm 19 and completely agree with rampage. What the hell happened to well written lyrics, and people writing songs with meaning rather than whatever will earn the most money.

[@bobthebuilder6553]

@@Markpichot I don't hate all pop music. I love Michael Jackson for instance but fuckin despise Nicki Minaj and and any other whore or man slut up on stage dancin around in next to no clothes singin the same few words over and over again while also writing songs that all sound the same.

[@aronroses13]

We grew up on drug dealer music. These kids grew up on drug attic music.

[@kalb1ss1blak21]

Drug attic Drug basement

[@kalb1ss1blak21]

You spelt addict wrong

[@sathanas420]

lol bitch you should have grown up in school. dumb fuck.

[@christopherhale1963]

I wish I had a drug attic

[@jorges1305]

Well put

[@jh1328]

My walkout music for my fights is “Canaan’s Bracelet” by Vinnie.

[@Parialated]

Blood on my hands for me... "Its a body!!"

[@Vinladen82]

Bloody tears for me

[@HDitzzDH]

Hearing Joe mention Gang Starr actually blew my mind, had no idea he was aware of such Hip-Hip.