Palm Strikes Work! | Joe Rogan and Michael Malice

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1300 with Michael Malice: • Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@etazza1092]

Id rather look silly and go home fine. Ego kills

[@GNOLEB]

Facts

[@ahmaddeham_]

rather than breaking my hand after one punch

[@lowtierduster-7254]

Imagine someone has backed you into a corner ready to fight you, keep your hands up with open palms as if you were trying to deescalate. You’re hands are and ready to go even though it doesn’t look like it from the other guys pov

[@Fahim_Lalani]

Thx 🙏 y’all for the great advice

[@michalvrabec454]

@@ahmaddeham_ only if your hands aren't conditioned, i feel like palm strikes have risks too obviously, palm is an unnatural position for a hand to be in, it's much easier to use fists

[@stgsarge]

The palm heal strike is what sent Nick cage to prison and started Con Air

[@lauraannevely]

Lmao, con air

[@deadlegs187]

His hair was a bird also

[@OnPointFirearms]

Bwahahahaha!

[@JP-lj2lq]

nuff said, now killing animatronics barehanded

[@dantheaiguy]

My man

[@igchef_boyarufat5649]

BAS = Bad Ass Striker

[@BigUriel]

@Paul Liu I'd love to see anyone say that to his face! Fast lane to the liver transplant list lol

[@hajdukbesmrtnik802]

@@BigUriel 😂😂😂

[@eboymorales3047]

you're a Genius buddeh🤣🤣

[@silentvoicespodcast]

This comment deserves waaaay more likes.

[@deadfarang]

The fist is no match for the skull

[@grubbybum3614]

Skull on skull can be fucking retarded. It's Newton's law, you can crack someone else's head, but that might crack your own

[@DoseOfReality308]

Grubby bum skull on noes though 💀 👃 💀

[@kirilbellic3602]

@SERGIO BACA gloves, and wrapping.

[@CornyBum]

I always bring a skull to a fistfight, I don't care what anyone says about it being dirty.

[@deadfarang]

@SERGIO BACA Proffessional boxer, undefeated heavyweight champion of the world and wearing a boxing glove.

[@mrhead8175]

Bas also had killer timing, he would sometimes time his shots for when his opponent exhales making his liver shots even more devastating.

[@YaNeK92]

A real predator 😮

[@michaelwest4793]

It was only crude because most of the fighters were grapplers who dabbled in striking. But, Bas Rutten had much better striking skills than most of today's UFC fighters. It wasn't just his kicks, it was his elite skill of combining kicks and punches. one followed the other. A kick was immediately followed by punches and vice versa.

[@eduffy4937]

I boxed from age 8-25 and have been in 3 legit fights outside of the gym. Every single time, the strike that ended it was a palm heel ora wrist bone strike. I know better than to punch anybody bone on bone with my fists. Not looking to break any more bones, but i can tell you palm strikes are deadly effective and relatively safe to throw. Open your hands up, put them out front, 1/3rd extention, and you can shoot one up into the chin or throat with lightning speed.

[@periechontology]

Yeah and get your fingers jammed.

[@snakething87]

If a grown man slaps you in the ear you’re going down with ringing ears and a rung bell.

[@neuralnetwork17]

A teenage girl slapped me on the ear once, by accident, my face was the actual target. Barely any force behind it. Surprisingly unpleasant experience.

[@mantovannni]

Tell Bas Rutten that palm strikes look silly.

[@aznpholyfe6693]

so does kicking somone in the nuts

[@speedy5118]

wouldn’t like to get hit with one of those tho..

[@doddood5516]

Clearly someone hasnt played yakuza...

[@kastle1972]

Rutteb had & still has the nastiest Palms.

[@Dan0rioN]

& he will show how silly they look up close XD

[@JohnRhodes-lv3rg]

Palm strikes will knock teeth out. It only takes a little of jaw adjustment to knock someone out.

[@kenh.5903]

The best thing about the Palm strike is that it is so powerful because unlike a punch where you have to deal with the movement and possible injury of the wrist, you have solid bone from the wrist down to the elbow to back up the heel of the Palm when you strike.

[@ReeferSmoker]

If that's a problem, you don't know how to throw a punch. Or you didn't spend any time bare knuckling a heavy bag

[@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt]

The reason that's so important is the difference is the difference between a heel kick and punching with your toes which like punching with your hands you would need to train to even do with power safely. A palm is more like a stomp than a punch and no matter who in your weight class stomps you it will be bad.

[@JMac-oq1pv]

Tell me you’ve never been in a fight without saying it outright. 😂

[@kenh.5903]

@@JMac-oq1pv tell me your an idiot without saying it outright.

[@johnkein7346]

@@JMac-oq1pvwhat’s your record?

[@rong2912]

I want to see more full nelsons in the UFC.

[@Gunbudder]

0:40 For those wondering, the movie is Con Air starring Nicolas Cage (not Steven Segal). Cage delivers the deadly fictional palm strike at the start of the movie, which is what gets him indicted for murder. Cage's character supposedly learned the technique while serving as a Green Beret. Con Air was super popular when it came out, and projected the nose strike myth into pop culture pretty hard (although i don't think its the first movie to have the nose strike).

[@TwattyWankers]

The Last Boyscout with Bruce Willis has a scene like that where he kills a guy

[@TwattyWankers]

Roadhouse too

[@philvalentine7665]

@@TwattyWankers Yeah, Last Boy Scout did it years before.

[@junichiroyamashita]

Also A History of Violence.

[@Broke_Stacker]

You have one thing wrong. When Nick Cage does it, a bone actually enters the brain and kills you.

[@jasonzuk4493]

Oh man when I was a teenager I broke my knuckles really bad a few times and only used palm strikes after that probably had 10 fights useing palms and man they work. They aren't a range strike but when u get in a throw hooks striking with the base of your palm sideways, I did 9 month in jail for breaking a guys jaw with one of those hooks they are nasty. Save your kuckles palms and elbows are the way

[@mikuspalmis]

Shit... there's another guy in the comments who did a few years cause of a palm strike. Broke the other guy's eye socket.

[@tyy123]

Back in high school I used to use palms in street fights. No one ever knew that I used to use my plams. It protects your fists and and it makes your punches faster

[@ButteredPecan17]

how does it make your punches faster?

[@tyy123]

@ I didn’t have to worry about closing my fists, my hand felt way lighter when I didn’t have to worry about closing my fists

[@soyouknow8207]

The palm strike is used in Japane Jiu-Jitsu and I think it is the best for most head strikes. I also think Japanese Jiu-Jitsu should be mentioned more. This style was not so much represented in the early days of the UFC. It was in Pride tho. It has a good foundation to transition into MMA. It has a standing element, there is throwing and submissions. Tho it also teaches how to deal with knife fights and such. It really depens where you train aswell tho. My old teacher was also a corps marine guy and had a competitive mindset. I trained in the NL tho, so our trainer also added kickboxing and boxing elements. As far as I know our school was one of the few that also taught how to throw low kicks and elbows, use ground and pound ect. Which I did not see implemented in other schools (and was not allowed during competition). I do like the palm strikes and I do not understand why we don't see them a lot in MMA. I have broken my knuckles in both hands. I think the palmstrike should be used for most head strikes. Even when you miss, you can easily transition to grabbing or pushing to close or create distance. Use fist for body shots and the temple.

[@innerpowerup]

Those Bas Rutten liver shots!

[@hazahizabbanzabalawan3815]

BRUTAL

[@RGVNC]

I've seen Bas TKO guys with a palm strike to the liver, then there's the Russian slap. Yeah, you don't want none of that.

[@grimjr2882]

Sumo wrestlers are some of the good example in using palm strikes

[@billyb6001]

ya. but they are trying to push you. not injure you.

[@grimjr2882]

@@billyb6001 that's the theory but try saprrong a high class sumo athlete. Its different from a push

[@machine_daddy]

Palm strikes do work. I hit a man one single time with my palm back in 2004 and almost killed him. Broke his orbital socket and his eye came out a little. I was convicted of malicious wounding and went to prison too. It was pretty scary because when I hit him, he didn’t fall down right away he just stood there with his eye messed up. He started mumbling and making a snoring sound. And then he sat down on the ground and slumped over forward. I thought I killed him. Scared the shit out of me. I really wasn’t trying to do something like that. I didn’t feel like I swung very hard. That was three years in Greensville correctional center for me.

[@naterichardson3956]

Damn. Did you swing it wild or like a jab?

[@machine_daddy]

@@naterichardson3956 just a right overhand. My intentions were to slap the hell out of him, because thats what I told him I’d do. We were all drinking and the argument was heated so it made it worse. We stepped outside, and as he stepped toward me I just remember swinging like butterbean towards his face. He didnt move his head far enough and I caught him with the palm directly in front of his temple/corner of the left eye socket.

[@weegieboard8432]

Damn that's fucked up, for you both

[@GoblinWRLD]

You met jay williams in there?

[@mikuspalmis]

What kinda frame did the guy have and did you ever talk to him, see him, or hear about him again?

[@johnpauljones9310]

Anyone trained in a grappling style, Judo, JJ/BJJ/wrestling, should always use palm strikes. The benefit of the palm strike is how quickly you can grab the other person and execute a takedown.

[@LucaOneTripleSeven]

Gotta Love Bas Rutten :)

[@DavidEve]

I agree with palm sticking 100% but it Is worth noting that the fighter that joe is talking about has a SEEMINGLY long reach. Not a knock on assessment but when you have extra long reach it is good for compensating for the avg 2in reach lose when using palms. AGAIN, I am totally for using palms. They are safer and technically way more effective.

[@Lamont24012]

Even Pros break there knuckels on skull bone .

[@jaysonmarquez7524]

I’ve used this on the street before and it was in the clinch. Your wrist and palm will definitely be sore the next day if you hit hard enough but I’ll take it over my knuckles any day.

[@Lamont24012]

Palmstrikes are 3 times more powerful. Joe knows what hes talking about.

[@entertainmentforyou6677]

In my 20's I got in a fight and broke my knuckles in a fight and the doctor called it boxers crunch and now at 39 I'm really feeling the break cause now I can't make a fist at all! I can never punch correctly again!

[@indianafarrell4440]

If you break it again and let it heal properly you can

[@dantefinch7967]

@@indianafarrell4440 are you serious?

[@indianafarrell4440]

@@dantefinch7967 well, I wasn’t joking lol

[@Inb4ending]

Gotta couple funky looking fingers myself. Shit sucks now.

[@kendannon4435]

Yeah, and when you're open handed, you can switch to grapple fast.

[@kenh.5903]

Yes, much faster transition - throws too.

[@who-man7699]

Baas (I'm sure that's not spelled right but you get the point) anyway Bass was the king of the liver strike he probably knocked out as many people with a body shot as he did with s head shot

[@stonecold6521]

Bas. 😁

[@yvanpajevic9680]

Bas didn't just KO with body shots...HE RUPTURED A GUY'S FOOKIN LIVER! THAT'S A FATALITY! Guy had to get surgery or he would have died from internal bleeding....DAMMMMMNNNN!

[@casparbosch5615]

@@yvanpajevic9680 you can actually touch part of your liver, though I do not recommend it. But it explains why the liver is targeted so much.

[@Dtutugxigc]

joe. Interview bass again. It's interesting

[@Perkmeupscotty]

hey you , hi. More cowbell

[@OnPointFirearms]

Interview guitar again.

[@EnSerio71]

You can hit brick walls with palm strikes. Hard!!!

[@kbtken]

Palm strike upper cuts and chops combo great together after blocking

[@NotSoHeavyD3]

The palm to the nose is from Firestarter and is how George C Scott's character would kill Drew Barrymore's character if it came to that.

[@robbybee70]

so you can kill small children with it, that isn't exactly impressive

[@Will-helm]

Imagine worrying about looking silly while defending yourself 😂😂

[@achintya1583]

Bas was Kyokushin and Taekwondo fighter.

[@ChadNErdProd]

I've been obssessed with palm striking since I saw this video, started hitting the heavy bag bare handed, the noise is fucking scary. Seems like a lot more power.

[@jessehines4044]

Overall palm strikes do deliver more power. This is where it gets confusing though for most people; they think since the knuckles with their smaller surface area concentrate the force more that it equals more power. This is a fallacy. The punch transfers more power lengthwise (increasing the chance for a cut or a crack on the area struck) due to the higher concentration of force but not more in totality. The palm strike delivers more power width wise creating a greater push back and stunning effect than the punch.

[@TheSpartanboy10]

@@jessehines4044 The reason the punch cracks or cuts is because of their sharper surface.

[@marcanthony1113]

Bruce Willis. The last boy scout.

[@wheelzofoz]

Yep

[@420snoogins]

I slap the ham with this technique every day.

[@Lamont24012]

This is , so true what he's saying you punch with the palm not swing or push .

[@tyy123]

Lightening ppl, the way he said it is so funny 😂.

[@Andykerrfield]

First saw the myth of killing someone by driving the nose through the brain in the Brice Willis film Hudson Hawk... great film 😊

[@MothmanAlpha]

I think you might be thinking about The Last Boyscout. I don't think he palmed anyone to death in Hudson Hawke.

[@FondlesHandles]

i'd rather look silly and win, than break my hand and lose.

[@madjack821]

If it busts someone up, it’s not silly

[@Helltown66]

The only problem with palm strikes compared to standard knuckle punches is that they lack the sufficient range to do certain long-range punches as seen by Conor McGregor. Also Palm strikes aren't as useful for striking certain areas like the solar plexus. Knuckle punches are good for hitting soft spots wow Palm strikes are better at getting harder ones.

[@OnPointFirearms]

Levi Matthews Tell us more, please.

[@speedy5118]

That’s why u move into the palm strike as you do it,creating more force but also closing the range.but yes u are right there is a lack of range and punches can be more useful however one palm strike to the nose can seriously fuck someone up

[@jessehines4044]

The "lack of range" you're alluding to is about 2-3 inches. Given the advantages of palm strikes compared to punches that little more range isn't enough to make it a worth while trade off. Additionally, people get confused when it comes to comparing the power between the two. They think because the knuckles with their smaller surface area concentrates the force more than the palm heel does that punches are more powerful. This is a fallacy. It's not that punches are more powerful it's that they transfer their force in the opposite way than palms do. The punch with its higher concentration of energy transfers force LENGTHWISE, creating a higher chance for cuts and cracks. The palm strike transfers force WIDTHWISE creating a greater pushing and stunning effect. This is immediately evident when you hit the bag with both. The palm pushes the bag back further than the punch does.

[@Lamont24012]

You only need proper technic to hit Solar Plex pqlm strikes can hit any part of the body that a punch can ,and be more effective .

[@Lamont24012]

But true most time Hard to Soft , and Soft to hard.

[@craigharrison5406]

Palm strike behind the ear....nighty night

[@dontimberman5493]

Ya if you haven’t hardened your hands then you will break your knuckles even if you hit perfectly.

[@seanfrashier631]

*might break your knuckles

[@nehuenserafin6874]

@Victor Huang I think hardening the hands its a misconception. You can harden bones but the tendons in your fingers its impossible, and the tendons comes first, and i dont think hardening your skin would work.

[@jessehines4044]

Protecting your hands is not the only reason to palm strike. Palms deliver more force width wise than the punch thus creating a greater stunning and push effect.

[@EnclosedPoolArea]

@@jessehines4044 What? Spreading mass out over a larger area reduces force.

[@ferumcastrum4097]

@@EnclosedPoolArea I assure it is much more devastating, I had doubt on palm strikes at the start, But when I use it once in a friendly bare knuckle boxing match, I throw a overhand Palm strike, I fecking broke my friend’s Jaw and ended up paying hospital bills for him. After that I have doubts throwing palm strikes in a fight cause it is much more dangerous. Sorry for bad english.

[@Stick_Chronic]

Open hand strikes are very effective at very close range where thowing punch wouldnt have as much force

[@normaningemann3868]

You can break someone's face with it!

[@oscarbear7498]

Add a tiny bit of lead wrapped in leather called a palm sap. Looks like a pretty leather bracket but has a lead core to smash. If you have the money platinum based weapons are the most dangerous because of its density . It's 2x the mass of lead

[@aristocraticrebel]

A friend of mine broke a bully's nose with a palm strike.

[@NotElmerKeith1]

Pat Smith could kick back then, too. Bad hombre.

[@Anthro0]

I broke my hand twice in street fights by punching incorrectly. I then trained kyokushin for 6y. And yet, id give myself a 50/50 chance in a street fight to break my hand a 3rd time.

[@joeschmoe1525]

You don't mess with El Guapo!

[@craigkoehler4363]

I cracked my brother in the forehead and broke my fifth metacarpal. Ouchies.

[@robbybee70]

I look bad-ass when I palmstrike people

[@kenh.5903]

Anybody else remember Captain Kirk from the original Star Trek series coming off one of the elevators and getting a palm strike right to the nose?

[@schmui]

LOL no but now I wanna see it

[@kenh.5903]

it was pretty cool because his reaction was very realistic. He had this look on his face like he was about to throw up. ​@@schmui

[@jamesrowsell9346]

If you are in a fight with michael malice, limp palm strikes will be sufficient.

[@yaboy4015]

Palm strikes are nice if you like to stiff arm your opponent, idk if it’s common or if I’m creative lol

[@mixaliskonstantinidis6773]

The most prominent '90s action film where this "nose-to-the-brain" strike has been featured in is Bruce Willis' "The Last Boy Scout" (1991). Check this clip out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIvMaIxnYteaqtU.

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

He was totally gonna say that.

[@stevebb2915]

Bas rutten was the first person to figure out palm strikes. Sweet fucking Jesus.

[@ravenillusion2596]

Silat mixed w palm strikes have literally saved my behind a few times. There's problem no more problem.

[@LewisCampbellTech]

I wonder how much more palm striking you'd see in MMA if they had no gloves. I assume they're there to prevent handbrakes so the athletes strike more.

[@RaLLyX352]

Wouldn't using your palm hyperextend your wrist and possibly fuck it up as well?

[@oscarbear7498]

How is that even possible? The palm is ment to be used like that

[@danksalt5935]

Hoarah Loux’s palm strike causes earthquakes.

[@andreyka64]

Joe “five finger death punch” rogan

[@OnPointFirearms]

Andrey Kitsen Worst Band Ever

[@russmode]

What's the chance of breaking wrist with palm strike?

[@animatronix5676]

Very low the Palm strike Is the safest strike for the hands

[@jimgritty7064]

I remember knowing about this since I was a little kid. Pick it up Joe.

[@palakbhatt8507]

Bas vs rickson

[@adnanadil4498]

I think that the Pit Master is advocating the punches, not the palm strikes.

[@ruck-a-tron]

I watched a video of Bas a few days ago. He said he’d probably use fists in a one-on-one. Two or more guys and definitely use palm strikes.

[@kennethwagnerjr21]

Palm strikes are great for soft targets such as the liver or zyphoid

[@MisterCovek]

You mean close fist punches?

[@yvanpajevic9680]

You have it backwards...palm strikes are great for HARD targets. If you hit someone in the forehead you won't break your hand with a palm strike...you WILL break your knuckles though. A closed fist is what you want to use for body shots...BAS proved this when he ruptured a guy's liver with his punches and KO'ed other guys with his palm strikes to the head. BAS WAS THE KING OF PANCREAS!!!

[@Kropikovo]

Bare knuckle fights in the old UK, right? They used fists, but almost all the shots were body shots. The slapped each other to cause distraction, or aimed at the ears. Fist were rarely used on the face, and if, only with limited force.

[@pictishbynature1522]

Tell that to artem..

[@jujiwastaken]

Palm striking just means that you're break your wrist instead of your knuckles, a much larger and more complex joint.

[@oscarbear7498]

You literally do push up on your palms and have padding and thickest skin your body , to push hard on them with having the FASTEST healing and regeneration of any part of your body Long with skin under your heal. Your knuckles have zero padding and very thin skin....

[@jujiwastaken]

@@oscarbear7498 Yes, knuckles have zero padding and very thin skin, that means they're a good weapon and open cuts and lacerations

[@tmass1]

i want that shirt

[@MyHelpWanted]

Palm strikes can be way harder than punches and you don’t ruin your knuckle. My dad always told my brother and I if you get into street fight don’t use knuckles.

[@dontworryaboutit7569]

William E. Fairbairn anyone?

[@rickc2102]

What looks sillier: smacking the shit out of someone with your palms, or having the shit smacked out of you by the other dude?

[@joshbrendel5775]

Pankration fighting is still around, but now the rules are similar to mma rules, but you cannot strike to the head, internationally there are headkicks, and in the US there are different rules for different age groups

[@mcox8829]

Palm strikes lol giggity

[@Khankhankhan420]

He’s saying the nose bone kill isn’t real but yes it is dude.. my boxing catch did two years for man slaughter because he upper cut a guy in the nose and it killed him. I don’t think he lost two years of his life over a myth 😊

[@MegaJcoulter]

Ahhh ... needed my bas fix

[@iMoRpHz]

idk when I palm strike it feels easier to break my hands lol

[@casparbosch5615]

Do you wear gloves when you strike? Not to bash or anything but the glove might cause your hand to stay a littlebit forward, causing quite an awkward position

[@iMoRpHz]

Caspar Bosch i do wear gloves but if I practice palm strikes I try to take them off. I guess what I’m saying is the angles my palm hits the bag on feels awkward is that just me needing to practice them more?

[@jessehines4044]

@True WingChun I like your comment because you sound very knowledgeable. I personally like palm strikes more than punching because they have a greater stunning and push back effect on the target. There's one thing that worries me with palm strikes however, with your fingers exposed it seems like you can easily get your fingers broken or your wrist hyper-extended if your fingers were to get caught on an incoming fist or under a blocking forearm. I seen that you said to to keep your fingers together and to do finger, hand and wrist strengthening exercises but what else can someone do to prevent an injury to the fingers or wrist when palm striking? Also what are some good finger strengthening exercises? Thanks.

[@rayray6490]

You might jam your fingers yes, if you’re not striking with the heel or edge of the palm. Palm strikes can be wicked awkward to use at first but pretty versatile and powerful once used to it

[@awesom-o741]

I'm here after the Oscars

[@RodCalcagno]

I know Joe would discredit Kung Fu but there are many ancient Shaolin techniques like Iron Palm and Tiger Fist with incredible depth on this subject

[@Kevin-oi7if]

Joe, who wins between Bas and Rickson ? Both in their prime. Pride rules.

[@rhettwild]

was a nick cage movie con air not segal

[@JordanTV12]

Put Joe and Bas on another episode and teach people about the palm strikes and watch clips of his fights

[@billyb6001]

being on top isn't good enough. you have to do something with the position.

[@humansnotai4912]

Bas smacking the shit out of people with his hands - I would not be calling that man silly. He is a monster, destroyed everyone in Pancrase -then he trained Mark Kerr "The Smashing Machine"

[@charlescossel7948]

It wasn't the palms that Bas used, but the wrist bone attached to the hand striking like a spear into the opponents head and body. Watch his videos where he describes this technique.

[@JettoGospel]

first? obviously Joe haven't heard of iron palm

[@Masterfailure-b7i]

You can aim with more precision and hands open for a grab. You use your arm bone like poking stick

[@Zombied77]

My birdy girl wrists appreciate palm strikes.

[@phillyphilly1076]

Hell yea they do. One got used on me and it was 100 percent affective.

[@420snoogins]

Palm strike to the nut sack!

[@MMMM-sm2rm]

Broke my hand beating the brakes off a kid in high school. Sucked. Dr called it a boxer's fracture.

[@cybrunel1016]

Joe " let me invite guests so I can babble the whole time " Rogan. Nigga pleeeease !

[@napmanj9413]

How the fuck is it that Keith Hackney dropping a 600 pound Sumo with 1 shot, a palm strike not mentioned while discussing how effective palm strikes are?

[@tehf00n]

Joe "I didn't know the palm strike to the nose was a military move to kill people" Rogan

[@rockstoneballs]

It isn't

[@blers87]

Tyson fury watched this video

[@matthewvenomoustyrantkilla3108]

YES. fury used his palm bone as a deadly weapon

[@vandijk1698]

Deontay Wilder watched a video about female monthly periods and got stuck in one...

[@AmorrSummerstorm]

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