The Devastating Effects of Burn Pit Exposure for Iraq War Veterans

[@maqkathy]

My dad was an Atomic Veteran. The Navy refused to acknowledge for years what my dad went through. They would do atomic tests and tell the men to cover their eyes. My dad said he could see clean through his hands like he was being x-rayed. My dad went into the Navy a healthy young man. Left legally blind. Died at the age of 43. Atomic bombs change ones DNA. These abnormalities are then passed on to the offspring after exposure. My two brothers and myself have health issues that are similar to other off springs exposed to atomic testing. My thyroid stopped working all together at the age of 30. My brothers and I both have bone issues. one brother in his neck and my other brother and myself have it in our spines. I was the only one out to the three kids that could even produce children. One of the islands my dad was on was called Christmas island. How ironic. That island was lit up. My dad also died on Christmas in 1984. He also was on Johnston island. His officers encouraged the sailors to swim in lagoons that had been exposed to previous atomic blasts. My dad and the rest of the men were literal guinea pigs for the Navy. I hope you read this and look into it. It is very interesting and devastating for not only my family but for so many other families.

[@chipskylark5086]

Do you have resentment for America and the military industrial complex

[@betwixtX]

it's natural selection. your dad was so dumb to sign up with military so his offspring turned infertile. my dad weaseled his way out of compulsory service in red army and his offspring is mostly ok. except me who "volunteered" to our compulsury military service. as i started service i was injected with sterilant containing vaccine which also gave me chronic migraines. i suppose all the vaccines they injected me as a kid wasnt enough. all my brothers and sisters have kids but me not cause im too dumb to procreate henche the natural selection. but please dont blame goverment for it, its your own fault if u are too dumb, gotta man up.

[@maqkathy]

@@chipskylark5086 no I don't. I love my country. I don't like that the Navy tried to cover it all up.

[@maqkathy]

@Karl Papp sorry your dad went through that. My dad was young when he joined. At that time you did not have to be 18, just needed parents permission.

[@peraltaman]

@@maqkathy I dont like the military i mean your story is an other cause of the foundation of evil they have

[@gureno19]

They'll admit to this in about 50 years when all the Vets have died.

[@THEGREENHELIUM]

Exactly this. They will wait until the payout for their irresponsibility is negligible and for everyone to forget it. Only then will the government care.

[@nevermisled3244]

Bro that’s if we don’t die from global warming 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@gavinmckee9211]

Biden's son likely died from toxic pit exposure. Dad said nothing. This issue has had intelligent people, not paid thugs (or hero's), pointing out the devastating stupidity of burn pits for decades. Of course, deploying to Iraq was a war crime. Afghanistan, stupid, but perhaps not a overt war crime. So...? What did the pits do to the Iraqis and Afghans?

[@emilylowrance7930]

collateral damage

[@SDguy3030]

Thats how it goes.

[@flo1fication]

Recently got diagnosed with a rare cancer. Im 35. Cancer doesnt run in my family. I Dont drink, dont smoke, dont do drugs, I eat healthy, fast and exercise a lot. Did spend a lot of time near burn pits. Smoke would get really thick in the living area. Hard to sleep with that. Cant imagine anything else being a factor in the cancer.

[@saulm2007]

Where are you getting treatment? Maybe you can get some treatment at Walter Reed.

[@guntotengranny_]

Praying for you!!🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@jaredpeterson5686]

praying for for you my brother. thank you for your service, because of people like you i got to grow up in peace and freedom.

[@humancattle]

@@jaredpeterson5686 not hating, just asking, how does fighting people overseas defend you in any way? The U.S army is there to defend certain economic interests imo, not to defend you or your freedom

[@belliott88]

I’m not a soldier, I can’t relate to that, but I can relate to not being able to sleep with how I lost an organ to a different situation with no other reason beyond one that was not my fault. Feeling like an actual victim is the worst feeling in the world, and just know that as long as it’s not stage 4 yet, fight and fight hard. Life can get better after a couple years of surviving and suffering. It really can get better if you fight. Fight, fight, fight. Then get behind this movement and demand this be reversed and this wrong be righted. You deserve compensation. The Fed prints money for Defense Contractors, so demand they print money for soldiers like yourselves. Fuck whoever allowed this to happen to you.

[@StarcraftDEATHSTAR]

My best friend was over in Iraq in the motor pool. Where he was he said there was a burn pit right next to his shop. He ended up developing seizures while there. He didn't have any traumatic brain damage. He ended up passing away from his seizures 4 years ago. Miss that guy like crazy. RIP Chewie.

[@aviation11000]

The saying goes that if you could sue for negligence in the military, then we would be out of an officer corps.

[@spen1057]

thats a lame saying

[@awesomeblossom1]

Nick Trybull - yep, terrible idea to trust anyone without liability with your health and welfare. (Military, vaccines, etc..)

[@aviation11000]

@Nick Trybull Yep and what's worse is that unlike in the civilian world, there's no walking away once you're in. You MUST do what you're told under penalty of imprisonment. And if what you're told to do ends up blowing up in your face...well I guess that sucks for you then doesn't it.

[@aviation11000]

@Nick Trybull sadly, the "VA will take care of you" is another bs myth the military peddles. VA compensation is pretty much nothing compared to the condition its rated for. Those veterans who think the VA will rescue them are in for a rude awakening once they separate.

[@aviation11000]

@Nick Trybull haha ok gotcha

[@kingleunitas5920]

This is why I love JRE, I literally have never thought about trash in a warzone! Hope this brings some attention to a horrible idea!

[@TheZachary86]

Logistics of war. Waste is always the last thing on planners mind

[@aurelien5747]

UH8meCuzIm RIGHT what do they do?

[@meinelust]

Won't the flames be a beacon for the enemy?

[@TheZachary86]

@@meinelust Beacon in a fortress? The enemies know they are there. Problem is engaging a US base.

[@kevyt3095]

Wait to learn about poop in space...

[@kdhamons]

A friend of mine from the marines was exposed to one of these. He had to have one of his lungs removed. The damndest thing about it, is he gets zero compensation from the VA.

[@kellybecker3556]

They need to keep after them, its a pain in the ass but can be done.

[@P90XGetRipped]

Kyle H that’s what our military and government does. It uses our young men’s bodies until they destroy them physically, then they toss them on the street and leave them for dead. It’s sad that no one gives a damn about veterans. Not even the Republican Party cares about them, they only say they do so they can get votes.

[@bobrice5159]

Has he gotten a hold of the local DAV? They will be happy to help him get connected.

[@cc3775]

Lawyer up

[@alnozoguiletero1531]

Tell him to keep fighting! And I pray for him nightly along with all present and former soldiers.

[@timwalsh6283]

Thank you for making this a clip and having these guys on. The amount of health issues related to this are ridiculous. I am currently battling with the VA for them to do something more than acknowledge this problem

[@beran-li2mc]

Here we go again... just like agent orange and all the years it took for the government to acknowledge it's effects, not only on the Vets but their off spring. My heart goes out to these vets and their families having dealt with this all my life being a wife of a Marine that served in Vietnam. Don't give up, make them accountable.

[@alwoo5645]

Not just vets go visit Vietnam I did they still have kids born with disabilities that country was absolutely destroyed.

[@sokyoutdoors588]

We had them in Desert Shield/Storm as well.

[@Borat_Kazakh]

The effects of Agent Orange are wide and varied. If you got prostate cancer, and served in country, you are eligible for 100%. Likewise, hardening of the arteries. On the one hand these are just symptoms of aging. But the VAs conclusions are completely based on the elevated ratio of illness in AO affected personnel. No scientist has ever shown how AO causes these morbidities.

[@jizzyjake6783]

Who's Agent Orange?

[@AJ-xm4xc]

Why have we gone in a complete circle? After vietnam there was high public awareness of things like this. Now it seems we are back to step one, and a new generation of kids have to fight to get the government to acknowledge anything.

[@jnm422ty1]

When I was in, my go-to saying was; "The people who make the decisions, don't have to live with them.". This is how it works in the military. I spent 20 years in and out was always like this.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

No skin in the game

[@rudynathan8852]

Lets not forget the Afghan people whose land is heavily polluted and also breath this smoke

[@KegzTandOG]

Exactly

[@ApriliaRacer14]

Iraq is absolutely riddled with radio active munitions which leech into farmland and water supplies.

[@AJ-xm4xc]

Civilians always counted as collateral damage.

[@rey660]

This is so sad and just plain wrong .

[@timgels7273]

@@rey660 welcome to reality :(

[@abdallahhilali1123]

Man that sucks that our soldiers aren’t getting the support they need just getting thrown in there and expected to deal with the situation they have. Definitely needs some reform for a more organized way of clearing stuff like that. I mean you’d think they’d at least care for the health of the soldiers they send overseas right? Also from the other perspective sucks that those places have burn pits polluting the environment. Imagine the residual chemicals after everything is burned off that kids go and touch and play around with. Imagine having to live in a village next to a burnpit. I’m sure a lot of the locals are getting screwed over too; especially when they live in that environment for all their life. Def great way of spreading awareness Joe Rogan!

[@emilylowrance7930]

why do you think they would care?

[@davidpierce9949]

Its pretty much been that way at least in modern history if not longer. Vietnam is a great example. The gvmnt doesn't give a rat's ass about you or me and that includes both parties.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Medicare for all bitches

[@Carma123]

We give 4 billion dollars a year to Israel. Imagine how far that would go for our own if we didn’t.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

@@Carma123 we spend 800 billion on our own military every year..the fed just 'spent' 6 trillion on covid bailouts for companies making record profits during the pandemic..israels leadership is disgusting and unworthy but 4 billion is a droplet in the ocean my friend

[@jopo7996]

That sounds terrible, but what are the health effects of doing a 3 hour podcast inside Satan's Sphincter?

[@MK-573]

Dawg you deserve a cookie for that one hahaha

[@Toothache1988]

Lmao

[@John-mf6ky]

Lmao!!

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

It's actually soy Jamie's idea of what men think is cool. He made it after all.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

@new Leaf yeah, I've seen them talk about it. Though I never looked farther into it so I can't be 100%

[@XDMarine]

I served in Afghanistan in 2006 and Iraq 2007. When I got out I developed gastrointestinal issues where my stomach stops. I have terrible arthritis all over my body. I hope the research can be done to help my Marines and I.

[@corywilliamsmith]

My bro served 2004 operation iraqi freedom. His ptsd has changed his life. He now has paranoid schizophrenia. God bless our nation's soldiers and warriors

[@JPVersionofthings]

@The Saint your suggesting Cannabis to a paranoid schizophrenic. Are you out of your mind?

[@humancattle]

@Tony. O'Brien especially them

[@TacticalReaper56]

My Uncle Robert served two times over seas. One in iraq, one in Afgan. Came back changed... our family is not expendable like this.

[@janpieterszooncoen2550]

Your bro realized he's been part of the bad guys

[@shanginadildo]

@Tony. O'Brien they chose the wrong god

[@cjkjack1984cj]

This is crazy that this was uploaded today. I went to my C&P evaluation for asthma yesterday. I spent 2 years in Iraq and 1 year in Afghanistan. I was a young private during my first tour and was stuck turning over the garbage in a C truck. I was a Combat Engineer and got stuck with all the shitty jobs(pun intended). I work at the VA in Pittsburgh and see numerous veterans with issues that are unexplained. Myself included. I really wish we could get our shit together as a country and figure this out. I'm 37 with asthma, TBI and shrapnel wounds. I'm 70 percent service connected. I'm trying to get 100 percent but I'm thankful the VA gave me a good job and the 70 percent. I know of guys that have been waiting for years. Not able to work and no money from the government.

[@fecaliro26]

A very real question, what was the purpose of you there? what were you fighting? no irony or bad feeling

[@TheRCish]

@Bl How you can you blame them when they had no idea that every reason our government used to justify it was based on lies? Blame the people that sent them there to do evil in the first place, and the guys giving the orders to kill civilians, not the grunts who are there because they think they're serving their country.

[@cjkjack1984cj]

Bl because that’s what we did. We all went wanting to kill kids and women. Another stupid idiot that has no idea what war is really like.

[@medguy12]

I went to Iraq in 2006 when I was 19 and was attached to a combat engineer unit. We used burn pits at every site we built at. Years later, I suffered a pulmonary embolism in my lungs when I turned 30. I’ve had respiratory issues ever since. It’s a real thing.

[@DeDandy]

I'm grateful that I haven't encountered any type of medical conditions from the the burnpits that we had in Syria when I was there in 2018. I pray that it stays that way and that my brother and sisters in the military that have had medical issues can get the help they need and deserve.

[@Victorkapz]

Joe Rogan’s new studio looks like a burn pit

[@micksmith5123]

Nice one

[@iamwritingrightnow8217]

microwave

[@zeke7515]

Many of my friends are fighting to get the burn pits of Bagram, Afghanistan put on their medical paperwork.

[@kellybecker3556]

They should take pictures if they can, document

[@troutbumgypsy9169]

Zack C I was there... that was a fucking massive burn pit

[@joshlewis575]

Can't believe people still sign up. Uncle Sam's gotta history of fucking over people who literally put it all on the line. Unreal

[@TattooedFourLife]

Google VA burn Pit registry and sign up. The VA will pull records from the DoD and it will list places the veteran had been if they are eligible for BPR. Afghanistan bases are on there so there will be a good chance it will show up.

[@tomn5716]

Why allow politicians to send our troops to needless wars then not take care of them? Bring them home.

[@emilylowrance7930]

don't join.

[@lucifer31b]

Emily Lowrance If no one joins, then they’ll just draft us or go to jail. Be happy that less than 1% of US population join the military.

[@emilylowrance7930]

@@lucifer31b i'd be happy if our military stopped obeying unjust orders. mutiny should be a viable option.

[@pkuudsk9927]

@@emilylowrance7930 I agree if everyone just said ,,, I will defend the ground I stand on , not yours, no wars would happen . People would be to busy being happy and productive . We have it all figured out how to live off the land and help each other what the hell is their to fight over ?

[@sirreginolds9267]

Cause the people who send people to kill and die dont have to risk killing and dieing themselves

[@blaznskais2048]

The thing that will forever be seared into my memory is going to the grocery store with my stepdad (who was already an Army Vet at this time) and seeing this woman in front of us pay for a family platter of shrimp, 5 gal tub of ice cream and several prime cut steak with a food stamp card. That same yr my stepdad’s commission was called back up and he spent the next 18 months in Iraq as a CO CDR for the Army. Then when he came home to watch him struggle to readjust to civilization life and being home. Watch him struggle for years with PTSD and all the VA red tape and bureaucracy it took for him to get diagnosed and helped. The same government that thinks there’s nothing wrong with our inflated and abused social safety nets like food stamps is the same government claiming there’s not enough funding and resources for our vets that fight and sacrifice life, limb and sanity for those same leeches. The whole thing disgust me. It disgust me now watching fellow soldiers that are currently in having to fight day after day for basic care to help keep themselves battle ready. And to anyone that has never served and who’s automatic response is “well they knew what they signed up for” or “you should suck it up because you’re supposed to be a Patriot”. You wanna know what myself and what many of my fellow soldiers were never prepared for when we signed up? It wasn’t the chance of dying in some foreign country. We accepted that. We didn’t expect toxic leadership that preaches the Army values and Creeds to its soldiers but never lives up to them, and facing zero consequences no matter how much we try to speak out about it. It’s a 25 yr old that has permanently lost full mobility in one of her legs after less than 4 yrs in the military because of an injury that happened in basic. An injury that was repeatedly ignored and dismissed by military medical practitioners to the point she will have to deal with often crippling pain the rest of her life. It’s having to hear almost identical stories for hundreds of soldiers’ frustration with receiving little to no help for Behavior Health. Them being put in a position where because there’s not enough resources to go around they are expected to get the mental health care they need for the possibly of one 45 min session a month. And those are the lucky ones. Frustrations with a mental health system that’s so inadequate and only adding further frustration and stress to their problems that they’d rather try to tough it out on their own then keep being let down. It’s 3 suicides in 3 months in my unit in 2020, because during lock downs soldiers were treated more like prisoners placed in solitary confinement than war fighters. Rules and restrictions changed almost daily to the point people couldn’t go talk to their friends in person without risking UCMJ punishment. No one tells you about that when you raise your hand and take that oath of service. And after years of all that wear and tear on your body and mind the Army, the Government and the people you spent all that time serving dump your broken body to the curb and turn their back on you. They don’t care about any of the care you now need because “you knew what you signed up for”. It’s not the service that bothers us. It’s what happens when you come home.

[@geralddennis9752]

What in God's name are you babbling about?

[@emilylowrance7930]

and you are told you are protecting my freedom but you're just protecting your superiors job position. nothing new.

[@looseele]

One very important thing that people forget about the military… When you sign that paper, they own you. You are expendable.

[@davidwile1277]

Nope the military bends and conforms to the individual...thats why trans people should join and spend their entire contract getting dick splitting surgeries and waste goverment money...its 2020 baby

[@jacobchinn8593]

This may not be as bad as burn pits but when I was deployed they would leave cartons of bottled water baking in the 110+ sun. The plastic inside the water bottles deteriorates and can become a carcinogen when consumed.

[@Oscar-fi1ev]

It's even worse... when the bottle heats up, the coating gets into the water. The coating is called plasticizer, it's what gives the bottle flexibility and texture. Thats what you taste when you drink from a warm bottle. It's an endocrine disruptor. Particularly harmful for males because it mimics estrogen. Repeated exposure to it can make you infertile.

[@jw1415]

@@Oscar-fi1ev ...well, f!ck😳...

[@bonarlibor3067]

Always tasted funny hey. Fml.

[@jmass4207]

Little does the average youtuber commentator know we’re all swimming in numerous man made estrogenics. And by all I mean literally every human on the globe. There’s literally nobody to test the effects against.

[@Oscar-fi1ev]

@@jmass4207 It's certainly present in the environment and in many packaged goods. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to limit your exposure to it. Drinking plasticizer is literally the worst thing you can do. But hey, I only have a doctorate in organic chemistry, in this specific class of polymers, wtf do I know.

[@ginogains9388]

I was a contractor and lived at Camp Taji for 2 1/2 years straight. I remember how bad it would get with thick smoke that would burn your eyes

[@Waagghhboy]

That new movie on netflix called "outpost" had a moment mentioning this too. Overall that movie did a great job, especially representing stupid ass decisions coming down the chain of command , from people without a sense of what's actually happening on the ground. Smh

[@Acepilot12345]

I'll have to watch that

[@DirtySouthGaming]

Watched it last night. It's amazing, probably the best war movie related to the events in iraq/Afghanistan

[@DirtySouthGaming]

@From Maui if you watch till the very very end, I think his name was Robinson, he actually played himself in the movie. He put everything he had into it for not only accuracy sake but for Carter, for Gallegos, and for every other soldier that has the displeasure of being station there

[@bTheNomad.]

Fantastic movie

[@RyujinRoninReach]

I can’t begin to fathom the lasting effects of standing near those pits

[@emilylowrance7930]

how is that protecting our rights ?

[@emilylowrance7930]

@The Monotone Man and don't ask questions.

[@emilylowrance7930]

@Xela Flow the real battle.

[@johnsantos1225]

My close friend died from multiple myeloma from the pits. About 5 years after he got out he was gone. I'm glad you guys are shinning light on this nasty shit. Fuckin terrible oversight by our government and they didn't want to take responsibility. My friend left behind two young sons. Be careful and be safe!

[@jaelynn7575]

it surprises me that people still enlist in the military, after generations of seeing soldiers suffer. Not to mention the people, mostly civilians, who are on the receiving end.

[@yourthebest7942]

They should turn that awful looking studio into a burn pit.

[@Knifymoloko]

Lol

[@kmoss9521]

The walls are smoldering

[@billcampbell1627]

Thank you. This is an issue that took forever for the Vietnam Vets. Our burn pits where run by the Vietnamese. But the agent orange was everywhere. I commend the three of you to bring this forward and hopefully this can be brought under VA compensation.

[@amonaten13]

Military has known about these issues for a very long time. I hate how they play dumb about it and make soldiers do this work then force vets to jump through hoops for treatment. I lived out near Edgemont South Dakota where Ft. Igloo used to be. Massive chemical weapons storage facility in the middle of nowhere on the edge of some mountains. When they shut it down in 1967 they made burn pits and set light to a large amount of chemical weapons and other equipment. The people who did that died from various cancers. There have been cattle raised there who often die of disease and cancers before the burn pit areas and downstream were fenced off.

[@vic3444]

Medical/VA: yeah it seems that this isn’t service related.

[@JoeCamel.]

Its sad. The fact that every servicemen ive heard from loves Trump speaks volumes

[@jacobrhodes7777]

@@JoeCamel. They love him cause he isn't the problem haha. His 3 years compared to the swamps 40 year average.

[@LysergicKids]

@@JoeCamel. That's because we know how the Military works. Trump is not in control of these things. Look at the DoD and higher ups in the Military if you want to point fingers. What Trump has done, is get us our funding back while simultaneously fighting to get us out of the middle east. The complete polar opposite of what Obama did. So please, enlighten me on why I shouldn't like the guy.

[@scothammond5736]

@@JoeCamel. their is a reason for that Know-it-all. If you had a fucking clue you wouldn't make stupid comments like that. Under Obama the VA was a cesspool under Trump things got substantially better he got us the veterans choice program he is anti war he treats us like people have you ever seen the disdain Obama or Hillary had on their face while dealing with military members? What does Trump even have to do with this? The burn pits started while Bush was the boss got bigger while Obama was in office and nearly disappeared under Trump.

[@keenfire8151]

I was medically retired from the Marines after 14 years and 6 years worth of deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan due to my lungs collapsing on my last deployment. Now I might have lymphoma. I go in for a biopsy next week. I'm 37 with no family history of anything. My grandparents are still alive at 101 and 102. The problem with burn pits is that everything is thrown in them from human shit to lithium batteries and we breath that shit in for months at a time.

[@seanv.2150]

My mom's a nurse at the V.A and she's always having to fight the people who are in control to take care of the vets and it's crazy some of the things she has to do to get them what they deserve.She does it no matter what but why all the struggling it's crazy.

[@JasonRyanWilson]

We've mistreated our troops by neglecting them since Vietnam! It seems like right after the assassination of JFK everything went to hell!

[@belliott88]

You’re onto something with that JFK statement. Ever read about The Executive Order that might have been the real reason he was assassinated?

[@bubbagoo5419]

Everyone talks about what we won after WWII. No one talks about what we lost.

[@ThomasJackPotter]

Blake Elliott not the original commenter but I find that highly interesting, whats it called?

[@theshreksorcist4571]

America has been mistreating vets since its inception, hundreds of years before Vietnam. For example, WW1 vets had to beg and protest for the promises the government lied about etc. I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re actually more right than you think.

[@spen1057]

@@bubbagoo5419 Thats because we lost a lot less than if we stood around and watched. You have to fight to preserve peace, peace is not a natural right.

[@geraldmena9494]

Takes me back 10 years . As a Private, put on 16 hours shit burning details out in the combat outposts we were building. Just one of the many stories. I still have the fear that I may have to deal with this in later life.

[@nian_purkhard]

6 months of working within 200 yards of the burn pit on camp. A lot of times the smoke was so thick I couldn’t see 5’ ahead of me. 12 hours a day for 6 months. Our tent was maybe a mile away. Can’t wait to see how this pans out for me.

[@bretthomas8809]

Thank you Joe Rogan for having this conversation. I was deployed to Iraq and lived right by the burn pit. We need to research and find solutions for all our men and women affected by burn pits.

[@vincentvega5686]

Joe: imagine if you had a DMT burn pit and you inhaled that smoke 24/7...

[@weezypeezy1725]

My friends dad is a hardcore Iraq vet. Commander level. He tests positive for heavy metals, toxins and all the other things found from burn pits. Never will he be able to get rid of those things which accumulated in his body.

[@rupert2275]

He can, look into the niacin sauna protocol and chelating with something like chlorella or spirulina

[@castle_45]

good. he is a war criminal.

[@danielrushford4393]

Also alpha elite performance makes a metal detox which works, they have lab results to prove it

[@KevLetsGo]

When I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012 I found out that you automatically get 10% disability because the air quality is so bad from the burn pits.

[@emilylowrance7930]

what about the locals?

[@KevLetsGo]

Emily Lowrance honestly I couldn’t tell you.

[@canderscc1129]

@@emilylowrance7930 the locals do not use the pits the same. us soldiers us them to burn our trash and human waste.

[@emilylowrance7930]

@@canderscc1129 bodies?

[@vulture8878]

I was at FOB Salerno in Afghanistan. The burn pit there was pretty large and always choked the air there.

[@Rahmenno]

this is so sad to think they are people who willingly put themselves in "THE SHIT" and we the government can't take care of them while they are there this is so heartbreaking,I think it's great to shed light on this but there are still allied armies which at the time didn't have proper combat gear like a functional basic fighting weapon (the british army service rifle) and having mobile coffins. I hope we could see the day were every soldier is issued a wearable lead filter mask to protect them from most harmful chemicals

[@larrymiller9873]

I was in Balad Iraq in 04- 06. Crain Op. for KBR. The fucking place reamed w smoke 24/7. Got the crud then in October got so sick. KBR loaded me and at least 20 other sick contractors with out notice and flew to Bagdad change over to a military plain and flew us straight to the states. Now 13yrs later after a TBI surgery acoustic neroma that's inoperable severe lung disease tinnitus, softball size tumor in stomach ptsd osteobullshit. Divorced was homeless and doped up. By the Grace of God himself, I'm still here. But in Louisiana if you don't have a DD214 VA won't touch you and Drs here are hush Drs . Now I have a spot back by my jawbone. Does any of y'all know where a civilian contractor get a dr that actually cares before it's too late. Thanks for your service that have served and God bless.

[@VinciGlassArt]

Who's idea was that? Someone who understood that doing better for the people on the ground would hurt their profits.

[@harrysautoplace4207]

Thank you joe for having these guys on! Afghanistan vet 2017

[@KneeJerkReactions13]

People haven't been allowed to burn garbage like that for decades. The Armed Forces are wide open to a class action if you fellas would get organized.

[@thefrostyvette876]

Military personnel cannot Sue the military it’s in our contracts.

[@prolly2stoned420]

Grim Kreaper of corse it is.

[@evs9404]

Grim Kreaper Still signed it dint ya

[@Hermboldt]

Sue the military? Are you going to perform other miracles such as resurrect a dead person?

[@slambrew3849]

Grim Kreaper yeah, but advocate groups can I think.

[@jasonchinn539]

My CHU was a couple hundred yards from burn pit in Mosul Iraq, use to have to walk thru the smoke every day, my eyes have been messed up since. I used to hold my breath as long as I could. The VA has helped me tho...

[@lightcaesar]

Solution to problem- No more deployment of US troops overseas!

[@i_hate_soy_boys0314]

War with China is on the Horizon that'll be next years big event

[@irietropicals4255]

Stonerproject 420 coming from stoneroroject 420 sounds really convincing haha. Come on bud!

[@i_hate_soy_boys0314]

Larry Fisherman Coming from a dude named Larry.. come on bud. It's literally clear as day tensions are rising in the Pacific with China and US

[@blaked2127]

Lol no chance us maintains permanent presence in multiple countries and will never leave ie south korea and kuwait

[@JoeCamel.]

@@i_hate_soy_boys0314 you and everyone else better hope not because it'll be the last war for a long time because most of the world will be dead. Evennif you live youll have wished you died.

[@matty7006]

Thank you to everyone who has served past and present

[@gabrielusg1]

We burned trash, medical waste, batteries, absolutely everything you can think of inside a COP before handing it back to the Afghans. I have breathing issues now. I’ve been on medications for it going 7 years. (Since I got back from deployment). All I got was a cool letter stating I worked on the burnpit. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@issacbernardo3460]

Did you know Roe Jogan also hates the new studio setup? Have you seen the clip where he tells Joe he hates it? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvMoaqQhNtjgJo 😂 😆

[@booker9879]

Sleep apnea

[@gabrielusg1]

505 Booker 2049384 not sleep apnea. I had a sleep study done and also volunteered for a sleep study for a university. They did find I had insomnia.

[@mdog86]

So glad to see the pact act finally passed. Thank god for Jon Stewart, he is an American hero. He never once stopped fighting for all of our veterans to have the support and care they deserve.

[@drewarseneau3089]

My father was in desert storm and died at 46 in 2014...The burn pits caused interstitial lung disease leading to heart and other medical complications that he struggled with for years and I watched as he got worse and worse... The VA doesn’t allow the burn pits to be the cause of someone’s death due to the war and only said that the war gave him ptsd so all death benefits were denied... just like agent orange they’ll wait and wait as long as they can till almost everyone is gone

[@matthewpaulmohammed]

I just wanted to say too all of my fellow vets, I only wish the best for you and hope your all taken cared of.

[@Hands2HealNow]

We need our men of military and monitary policy to stand against all the lack of corruption.

[@Fuq2]

Stand against LACK of corruption? So you're all for corruption?

[@joeschmo5012]

Reread your sentence back to yourself twice before posting. It will save you alot of grief.

[@luthorcorp0]

This comment needs edited sir.

[@J.Castle]

I did two tours in Iraq in Al taqqadum. I had to go to the burn pits twice as punishment. Glad ppl r talkin about it.

[@BLIX5445]

A decorated marine friend of mine was talking about coming home on some kind of ship (I don’t remember what type) and he explained that everything on the ship has to be inventoried when they get back, so on the journey home it’s common practice to take PALLETS, yes PALLETS, of things like radio batteries and push them overboard so they don’t have to be counted. He said they threw everything overboard they didn’t want to deal with.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

My father told me that in the air force they flew pointless flights simply to burn off fuel because you don't get rewarded for saving fuel, you get your fuel budget cut if you don't use it.

[@gnd111]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Yes...Quaterly funding....if you dont use..you lose

[@jaelynn7575]

Typical of the military. They need to just stop. Why must men always fight?

[@jaelynn7575]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Yeah, it's no wonder fighter jets have been flying over my city all day! NOISE TERRORISM! STOp the 117th.

[@jeffshubb]

Burn pits were in use in Kuwait during the 90s also. It s been a practice for quite a while. They just kept the practice up over 30 years.

[@luisescobedo3939]

File this video under reasons the mainstream want to cancel Joe Rogan

[@Blashmack]

Mainstream news outlets like CNN, NBC etc. have covered news about veterans fighting these burn pit issues before bro

[@luisescobedo3939]

@@Blashmack You're right. I incorrectly assumed!

[@Blashmack]

@@luisescobedo3939 No problems. If you're interested, look into Jon Stewart and Presumptive Benefits for War Fighters Exposed to Burn Pits and Other Toxins Act of 2020.

[@aurelien5747]

Imaru Lewis they don’t talk about it because it isn’t “sensational” enough which is a stupid way to do the news (on both sides of the news)

[@brianlafave961]

The very first thing my DS told me was to keep all your paperwork from your service and self document things along the way. Zero issues with the VA. I pray other Veterans can get the help they need.

[@freezapop3215]

Nice, you got the Black Rifle Coffee crew on for a podcast?! Dope

[@freezapop3215]

@ROE JOGAN DMT APOCALYPSE Don't worry about it...

[@looseele]

My wife has issues because her mother was stationed at an Army base I will leave unnamed where the pollution level is off the charts due not only to military carelessness but there’s also a Monsanto plant nearby. They will not acknowledge the thousands of soldiers who have had not only lifelong problems but their children have also had lifelong problems because they would have to pay them a lot of money for ruining their lives.

[@AfricaGeo]

I remember Joking with friends living next to the burn pit in Afghanistan in FOB Sharana in the Paktika Province on how we were gonna end up with cancer when we left .... Oops

[@michaelclarke5386]

I remember the burn pit at Sharana as well. The smoke flowed right over the flight line.

[@sathanas420]

im surprised so many people didn't know burning trash and inhaling the fumes was bad for you.

[@Minegun3]

i came back from Africa a few years ago, and every got damn night they would light the burner up, smelled fucking horrible, you could smell it going out side the wire too for a while. now that i think about it, might explane a few issues ive got now from the burn pits.

[@titofidelis]

Had a burn pit in Najaf Iraq and I was always scared to be near those but unfortunately my whole FOB was exposed to the smoke.

[@dack575]

Parts of Baghdad were huge trash dumps with freeways going through them.

[@kilo_charlie0226]

My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer this year and he’s 49. I think it’s related to the Desert Storm burn pits and we’re trying to work it through the VA. 😪 The VA and government hopes that veterans never find out what entitlements they can claim and either wait later in life or just die. That’s why I push people to file for disability ATLEAST! Especially if you’ve documented it well while on active duty. Just because you don’t think you’re “disabled” doesn’t mean that the VA won’t compensate you for it. My dad was at 30% this year and now he’s at 80%! Shooting for 100% next...same with me...I’m at 70% and aiming for 100%.

[@BoomerElite4u]

I remember this MASSIVE burn pit on BIAP. I mean the size of a small village. The first time I had to go through it I was shocked at how horrific it was. These massive mounds of trash and debris in every direction, fire and smoke all around us and seagulls swarming everywhere. I actually thought a major bomb had gone off and that we were in peril and then I realized that place was always like this. My friend described it as actual hell. I realized that these fires were eternal and when I wanted to show people something cool on BIAP I would take them there. The sad part is I actually had recordings of this place because of how insane it looked and I remember showing it to my friends back home to show them what war was like (lol). They didn’t believe it was real because of how insane it looked. I don’t have those videos anymore unfortunately.

[@theregoesone3225]

Thanks for sharing. I was at BIAP winter through spring of 2005 (camp sather). Never saw the pit. Went to victory and striker often to eat. I remember in the winter going to striker, soldiers at the ecp we're keeping warm with a fire in a 50 gal drum, right next to the ecp. Much respect to you and everyone who has been there and done so much.

[@BoomerElite4u]

Making me have flashbacks.. I'm pretty sure the ECP at Striker (Stryker) during that time was known as ECP 7. Lost some friends out there, but I feel like most people never saw the burn area because like you had Striker, and then as you drove to Liberty you would almost immediately pass Cropper and then Grizzly, and at the sharp corner where you finally did a hard right turn to start heading directly towards Liberty... if you were to venture beyond that sharp corner it would take you directly into the burning area, which looked like hell on earth. I used to have videos of the place and joked about showing them to friends back home to show them how bad Iraq really was (because this place looked like Hell on Earth). Striker changed a lot from 2005 and like 2007 BTW. When I went back I didn't even recognize the place as the same base. It's like ever square inch had been torn down and replaced, and it went from being one of the more primitive camps in 2005 (when compared to Liberty, Victory etc.) to being the most state of the art and high tech. But I didn't like it. Was suddenly swarming with high ranking pogues who wanted to nit pick and yell at everyone. The real Striker was dead as far as I was concerned.

[@theregoesone3225]

@@BoomerElite4u always sucked when that happened to bases, I preferred the primitive. That was my favorite deployment. Hope all is well with you, whether or not you're still serving. Thanks again!

[@nlee2492]

Listened to the podcast. There should be a movie, about the Afghans that work with BRCC! It’s a badass story!

[@dmckelva1]

They literally just started taking care of navy sailors in Vietnam. What makes you think they will help the Middle East vets anytime soon?

[@freddie2198]

joe will somehow relate this to ju jitsu

[@That-Truck-Guy22]

He'd put that burn pit in a submission to put it out!

[@Scout555]

Sauna pit

[@seancharles7248]

Or DMT

[@HewieOG]

The foot fungal aerosols from the sparring mats

[@OffensivePlayer316]

How much elk would you have to eat in order to cure burn pit lung?

[@RyanLayton-y2w]

My buddy came back and died from cancer at age 24.

[@iVETAnsolini]

Just Iraq? As someone that served in Afghanistan, I’d say Afghanistan is just as bad

[@Bruhdawg23]

We had more than a few around Helmand province in 2012.

[@gavinmckee9211]

all bases burn pits, of all the worlds militaries, and all other burn pits too, are toxic, and common

[@crititandquitit3626]

Listen a lot of good people out there helping our vets and I can't say that you enough to those people. As a medically retired Marine with 3 pumps one including Phantom Fury the moment your out good luck. They stopped giving my migraines shots because it is to expensive. Burn pits were everywhere but nothing will get done just remember once you become broken you become worthless. Semper Fi

[@sambromley7394]

Funny how my employer is required by law to provide respirators for dust and asbestos but our militaries employers can’t be bothered to do the same.

[@travis3371]

This needs more exposure

[@RustyShacklefourd]

I remember when We broke down our Out post in Afghanistan and we’re instructed to throw everything we can’t bring with us into our burn pit. Shit was exploding in there

[@laurenmchenry9617]

My husband who did 2 deployments to Iraq and was stationed right next to a burn pit and operatied machinery in the pit has had very strange rashes all over his body that appear then dissapear and doctors have no explanations for it.

[@ashlady9]

“And birds would just fall out of the sky.”

[@alexsmith7313]

A friend of mine worked as an Army Specialist E-4 doing Armorer work for a Forward Support Company; he talked to me about how he used to clean the weapons with incredibly caustic carcinogenic compounds with his bare hands because the Army didn’t label them as toxic. Toxic chemicals require different transport infrastructure which is more expensive to setup so they just suppressed the labeling; since he didn’t know they were bad he would work with his bare hands with them, then he would light up a cigarette to take a break and the chemicals would go through the filter from his fingers and then into his lungs. Always remember folks; the Army needs your body to function as long as your in the Army, after you’re out you’re worthless. As far as I’m concerned, 20% of the funding for each Military Branch should go exclusively to the Veterans of said branches.

[@justinlee767]

Joe!!!! Please use your foundation to make this an issue!!! We a flapping in the wind brother

[@fwfrazorx]

I know a vet that did time in Afghanistan and he said the smell is the only thing that truly haunts him from his time over there.

[@HettesKvek]

"Currently, there has been research in the following areas to determine exposure to burn pit and health effects: Reproductive Health Outcomes: There is some research to suggested that toxins from burn pits can have adverse birth outcomes (low birth weight, preterm delivery, and increased risk of birth defects. Additionally, there is growing evidence to suggest a reduction in sperm quality associated with burn pits.[21] Autoimmune Disorders: The US Army Public Health Center has noted a some toxins associated with burn pits to suppressed the antibody response.[22] Additionally, the immune system can become hypersensitivity to the toxins (toxicants). Cancers: It is believed one veteran's fatal pancreatic cancer is associated with burn pit exposure.[8] Another veteran is believed to have brain cancer from the exposure.[23] One study using Burn Pits 360's registry, there is a higher rate of proportionate cancer mortality among deceased veterans.[24] High Blood Pressure: A study from the Veterans Affairs Airborne Hazards and Open Burn Pit Registry, one-third those exposed to burn pits were diagnosed with high blood pressure.[25] Respiratory Disorders: The Veterans Affairs Airborne Hazards and Open Burn Pit Registry, 30% of participates have been diagnosed with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, emphysema, and chronic bronchitis.[25]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_pit#Health_effects

[@Economivision]

What’s worse than the conditions you develop is the treatment: coming to the VA for help, when nobody knows or even cares to understand how to help you. Misdiagnosis, delayed treatment, lack of meds to follow up, missed notes of previous complaints, lack of time spent to understand the relationship of your conditions, long wait times, bottlenecking priorities... Anyone that’s had surgery at the VA also understands the disappointment, especially if you also spent time in service as a medic. Army medics are better than VA doctors. It’s not any wonder vets are killing themselves. It’s not that they aren’t trying to get help. It’s that they’re trapped in this wasteful and careless system.

[@jaelynn7575]

Tell me about it! I worked in a VA lab. The head Microbiologist missed a case of blastomyces that I caught, and Microbiology wasn't even my strong area! I didn't make it past their probation period. As soon as I caught the case, they let me go, for no reason.

[@Economivision]

Jae Lynn oh my dear... please come back! Vets need you

[@zaklingenhammer2149]

I have a feeling 100 years from now people are going to say "back in the 21st people used to heat their food up with microwaves! Can you believe that!!!!"

[@davethomas543]

We did the same on drilling lease sites in Alberta and northern BC , Canada.

[@rgjr.6055]

I’m pretty sure burn pits caused my wife’s thyroid to die.

[@paddling_fisherman5171]

I love that he talked about putting wet towels around your door 🚪. Same thing I had to do even in 2011 as we “CLOSED” Iraq down.

[@Steve-ec6ed]

We need a giant garbage bong essentially. This way we can burn the garbage, purify it through water and emit less methane.

[@lamolambda8349]

lol you need an incinerator with filters.

[@W_IQ]

I'm from IRAQ 🇮🇶❤️🇺🇲

[@localenterprisebroadcastin5971]

I was in Afghanistan. Camped next to burn pits all the time...smokers don’t seem to have the problems 🤷🏼‍♂️ guess we had expendable tissues in our lungs 😂

[@TheGreekDream43]

Yeah their lungs were already fucked xD yours were fresh and clean

[@mikeflo6459]

I was in iraq 2003-2004 time frame and that veteran guy is right. We used tent poles to stir the shit and piss and we burned everyday 24/7 7 days a week 365 a year. E-4 and below got tasked to do this not some high ranking nco or officer. Young men then now they have stomach problems and different types of cancers. It’s a shame but it’s a fact.

[@Mechanic618]

How did this happen? Easy: Bean counters. It's cheaper to burn than to have to haul out all the trash.

[@calebl6609]

Yet somehow we spend more money on military operations than our top competitors combined

[@user-kg4hl2sw8h]

Part of it was security, in theory. We had to douse it with jerry cans of fuel and light it - then stand by to make sure Iraqis (military and civilian) didn't rummage through looking for things of monetary or intel value. Armed guard over burning trash made sense and didn't at the same time. Doesn't negate the effects though.

[@biz09ification]

@@user-kg4hl2sw8h they need to reduce the amount of disposable waste there taking over or use more recyclable containers or something. Also different burn pits for different materials with the more dangerous fumes being dug away from people, might be more work but better than sleeping next to cancer fumes. also proper ppe would probably help too. There's no way they could make you work in those conditions in any other job without being sued

[@TheRCish]

@@user-kg4hl2sw8h gonna be honest, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. What "Intel" are they gonna get from digging through trash and literal shit? At least they could've come up with a list of potentially compromising items that you aren't allowed to just dump without destroying first. Without that, it just sounds like a lazy excuse to explain away a cruel, negligent decision.

[@bradpierce1211]

Those pits were insane on the fob and the bigger camps like camp victory that were fairly close to the living areas and all kinds of things that was thrown in them

[@stsscodok9889]

I would love to see Shawn Ryan on JRE

[@LSPD1909]

That would be great. Or Tilt Meyer

[@Austooo]

Shawn Ryan and Mike Glover together would be fucking spectacular

[@Thizlamic]

I'm not sure Sean's personality would mesh with Joe's

[@Austooo]

Thizlamic He seems to be more outspoken with other team guys/ friends with him. He would almost need to have someone else with him on the show just to get more comfortable I suppose

[@barbrasosi]

Burn pits are a feature in poor countries, it's pretty frequent. I've cycled through the smoke a few times and thought it was ok. Now I'm gonna avoid the area altogether.

[@onderhoudschilder9385]

Netherlands in the house

[@Windwalker88]

Wat is burn pit in het Nederlands eigenlijk? Brand gaten ofzo?

[@onderhoudschilder9385]

@@Windwalker88 brandkuil ofzo volgens mij

[@Cleared_hot]

He’s correct!! Schafers smart as hell. I got Thyroid cancer and it isn’t in my family in any way shape or form.

[@shonevans2563]

And everyone thought expanables was just a movie smh. Military industrial complex Big business . Even 9/11 aftermath they lied and said air was safe in Manhattan civilians , troops doesn't matter just profit

[@trevorvolcom7]

Expanables?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 omfg hahaha

[@trevorvolcom7]

Expendables?🤔

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Dude I remember a liberation of an island, Jean Claude Van Damme spin kicking a knife into a guy's chest, Arnie ripping a door off a Smart car and Ronda Rousey getting a fake tattoo. I don't know how the MIC relates to that.

[@MarcoPolo-zc6zo]

My cousin was drummed out at 18 years due to the burn pits. He has all kinds of health problems. Fortunately he ended up getting full medical retirement but that won't give him back his health.

[@timvanslooten9288]

We were ALL exposed, and we ALL have post effects... Aint nobody gonna do shit for us, but the Reaper.