JSB KnockOut .177 Accuracy and Expansion Test Pt. 1

[@TheLandbo]

Thanks for your interesting video. Looking forward to seeing what is possible and doing with the mentioned slugs at a longer distance. Why should it be so difficult to buy cal .177 slugs here in little Denmark. 😒

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching 🙂 I believe that the slugs for 177 are very close to become mainstream. Check out Humas Web 😉 Not available yet, but since they are showing them, they most be closer at least 🙂

[@kevink552]

Great channel, no bs, done very professionally in a scientific manner and not afraid to show poor results. In a nutshell it's a realist approach to testing, love it!!

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks Kevin 🙂 And that is exactly the way Im aiming to make my videos. Im really happy that you took the time to write this comment. I really means alot to me 🙂

[@amadomata459]

Thank you very much for a most informative video. I shall watch the next one about the same slugs shot at longer distances. Please continue your excellent films.

[@lenweber7142]

When you get a small vertical group like that , Teresa and I just slow the slug down by just a couple fps and watch the holes come together 😁

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thats good info 🤗 Thanks buddy - and thanks for watching 😎

[@F4AUST]

Hi Peter this was so helpful for me on what to with my fx maverick . Keep up the good work 💪

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Austin I happy that it helped you 🙂 I will do some long range testing soon 🤗

[@joshuagibson2520]

I'd love to see 50m or 100m accuracy tests at 11-1200 FPS. Or any distance honestly. Lots of folks say it won't shoot well, but I've yet to see much actually tested or published on the subject. Thanks for sharing your data in this video.

[@VikingAirgunner]

That is a great idea for a video 😎 It will take quite a change of setup, but I will defenately have your idea in mind! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching mate 😎

[@beastmode2990]

Recently got gamo black bear igt 5.5mm and the magnum gen 2 igtx10 5.5mm and I can say with ease that slugs are killing it I kinda still test out pellets but slugs will take down anything even an intruder

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thats great info - thanks for sharing 🙂 Im completely convinced that slugs are the way forward. From this point on I believe that pellets are only for the shorter distances - at least in the smaller calibers.

[@hotchihuahua1546]

The JSB knock Outs 13.43 shot a tight groups out of my Weihrauch HW100S . Could not get a good group out of my 3rd generation Impact MK 2 with either weight JSB Knock Out slugs in my .22 caliber . However , the NSA in .218 did well with 23 & 28.5 grain slugs .

[@VikingAirgunner]

At wich velocity did u shoot them in your mk2? And wich barrel did u use?

[@hotchihuahua1546]

@@VikingAirgunner Smooth Twist X superior and the velocity is 925 to 940 FPS . I have grouped as good as .625 inches or 15.875 mm at 110 yards or 100 meters with the NSA 23 grain slug . About the same for the 28.5 grain . This under ideal conditions .

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@hotchihuahua1546 thats an impressive group! The NSA'S are just in a different league 😎

[@hotchihuahua1546]

@@VikingAirgunner I am going to try the Javelin slugs . I understand they are very good in .22 caliber and were designed around the FX Impact . Given enough time we will see many more slug designs for the .177 . That should be interesting . Sad the restrictions in countries with 12 FPE won’t be able to take advantage of this technology .

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@hotchihuahua1546 The Javelins makes me wish that I shoot 22 sometimes 😃 Hopefully they will make 177 in the future!

[@joeremondino1433]

Great review, thank you! I am jealous of your shirt! Forza Ferrari!

[@johnvanberrgem286]

I realy enjoy your videos! I shoot a 177 avenger. Your info has helped a lot.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thank you John 🙂 Have a great weekend 😎

[@Андрей-п1г9щ]

an interesting test, I really want to try this ammunition. Only they are not delivered to Russia yet and there is nowhere to order...

[@VikingAirgunner]

Im sorry to hear that buddy 😯 Is there no JSB's available at all in Russia?

[@Андрей-п1г9щ]

@@VikingAirgunner 😅We have JSB, but KnockOut .177 cannot be bought. In Russia, they like calibers more 5.5/6.35/7.62 and larger, KnockOut is presented in 5.5 and 6.35 ... but there is a large selection of full-bodied bullets for high energy... I will hope that this supply will reach us and I will be able to try it in action!!! thank you for the interesting content, good luck in your hobby

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@Андрей-п1г9щ Im sure that the KnockOuts will reach you soon. They have been out of stock for a long time all over Europe, but now they start to emerge several places. I hope that you will find them soon 🤗

[@biakmawia]

I wish fx came up with a new barrel for 177 slug, its almost hate all the slug available.... But this slug looks promising.. Please test @ 70-100

[@VikingAirgunner]

I will be testing it at 100 m pretty soon! Im using the STX and it likes the NSA 12,5 and 15 grain 🙂 The Superior Liner should be better for slugs, so when I get my M3 with that liner I will do LOTS of testing 😎

[@leftymadrid]

Hey there Peter, I was itching to get those myself! I got lucky with my personal tune. Because at the moment my rifle was shooting at 14.35 PFE. Looks like I hit the jackpot In accuracy, as these 10.03g slugs are grouping less than a quarter of an inch at 30 yards. I was amazed that it actually did better than my preferred pellet, the JSB HEAVIES which have never let me down. But having said this I noticed that the slugs feel tight in my barrel... Overall, at the speeds I normally shoot, I don't really need to go into the slug shooting world, but this little 1.77 slug IS worth having around :-) The groups you achieved at that high speed were really good to at settings 3 and a 1/2.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi and sorry for my late reply. The heavies are super pellets. I used them for at long time when my whole setup was based on a lower reg preasure, but after gettin into slugs it just needed more reg. Super cool that you can get the 10,03 gr to group well!!! At wich velocity are you gettin the best results with both the Heavy and the 10,03?

[@leftymadrid]

@@VikingAirgunner Peter yes, I believe the numbers are as follows, the JSB HEAVIES 10.34g are hitting 786 to 791fps, while the knock outs 10.03g lost 25-30pfs in flight. I imagine the tight fit would be the reason. I'm thinking that Over time the slugs may wear the inner barrel. So, I think I will still be using the HEAVIES, there's just something so darn satisfying when you can hit a 1/4" diameter target at 50 yards! :-) And there are days when the wind is calculable that at 93 yards I've have scary great results! A regulator is a must for these distances, at that low power, with a 1.77 caliber. Also the Element Optics Helix scope 6-24X50 spf helps a great deal! Stay safe, crazy world out there...

[@ZeteticPlato]

Have you tried this in a SNR357 snub? ... Fantastic

[@VikingAirgunner]

Saddly I havent. So far I only have the Impact and the Wildcat, but I can easily imagine that they would perform well in many guns. -right now Im just praying that JSB will start producing the KO's in a bit heavier version 16 gr perhaps 😃

[@Oregon-airguns]

I’d really like to see a 800 barrel in the heavy slug liner configuration, in .177 would be interesting. Especially @11 or 1200fps. But I doubt fx will ever make that barrel in .177 however I can’t wait for it to come on the market in .22/.25/.30

[@VikingAirgunner]

Uhh yes that would be very interesting with such a barrel! I know that the 700 mm barrel is on the way in 177, but it might "only" be in the Superior Liner version. Just guessing here😃 But super exciting things happening on the pcp marked right now!!!! Thanks for watching 🙂

[@kvikkneg4446]

Fx is making a superior heavy liner for .177! One website in us takes pre-orders. No info on twist rate yet

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

Awesome video man great shooting Awesome testing thanks for sharing bsafe I'm glad I found this channel

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thank you Chris 🙂 Thanks for watching 🤗

[@stevebygrave831]

Hi my friend Steve from Suffolk UK 🇬🇧. In your opinion what would be the slowest you could shoot the 177 nock out slugs at safely?

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Steve🙂 The slowest I have tried was 900 fps, so I actually dont know. I have seen it shot succesfully at 885. Have you considered the 10 grain KO?

[@gabinaaguilar6464]

hola amigo podrías decirme a cuantos bars configuraste el regulador, por cierto grandioso vídeo

[@VikingAirgunner]

Já faz muito tempo desde que fiz o vídeo, então não consigo lembrar minhas configurações. Fico feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo

[@gabinaaguilar6464]

@@VikingAirgunner entiendo no te preocupes sigue siendo un estupendo vídeo gracias

[@AnubhavAnkitGeorge]

Great job sir, as for me the big question is how much energy it generates to the mud clay at 30 to 50 meter of distance. Kindly make a separate video on it.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thats a great idea for another video 🤗 Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching mate 🙂

[@HUNTER-je6qy]

Harus balance antara tekanan, speed.hammer spring dan karakter Laras.

[@kolbeck69]

peter. Kan jeg skyde jsb knockout 4.5 med min fx impact smooth twist mk1 ? eller kan man kun hvis det er en X barrel . pfh tak

[@VikingAirgunner]

Halløj igen 🙂 Jeg ved det faktisk ikke.... jeg havde selv en mk1, men den var af de sidst producerede, så den var faktisk med STX. Ted Bier lavede en video, hvor han testede et hav af hagl og slugs i forskellige linere, men det var i cal 25, så det er ikke helt sammenligneligt, men det er en god indikation på, hvilken retning man skal gå. Så vidt jeg husker var ST ikke så godt med slugs. Har du overvejet at skifte lineren ud med en STX? Eller måske STX Superior, der er på trapperne. Ellers er det en god ide at opgraderer med pin probe og dual transfer port. MK1 kan langt hen ad vejen opgraderes til en MK2. Det gjorde jeg i lhvert fald med min den gamle 🙂 Men tilbage til dit spørgsmål - ST er umiddelbart ikke en succes med slugs, så derfor mine anbefalinger om at skifte lidt af indmaden 🙂 Bedste hilsner Peter P

[@carlsommer1344]

great video but how did you get the slugs shipped to denmark

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks Carl No problem. I just order them and they arrive a few days later. 🙂

[@carlsommer1344]

@@VikingAirgunner what website did you use

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@carlsommer1344 Different sites but this one is the best: jsb-diabolos.de/?home,1

[@borisalma]

I like your shooting table,must be custom carve to fit your stomach.This is X factor for improved accuracy.

[@VikingAirgunner]

And I used to be SO fit 😂😂

[@sumatrahunting95]

Mantap master👍👍👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks buddy 🤗

[@shooterhawk7334]

Que buen espacio tiene. Esta bueno 👍

[@kevink552]

These are mass produced slugs, wondering if they could be sorted by measuring diameter or visually under magnification or by weight to reduce the group sizes?

[@VikingAirgunner]

That is so funny that you should mention that Kevin! I have a list here of future videos that I want to produce and one of the ideas is exactly what you mention 😀 I have acutally just recieved the scale in the mail today 😀 If you have other ideas they are very welcome mate 🤗 Best regards Peter P

[@agbcrartsora6918]

Very interesting video mate. How good do you find using the slugs on a 177 18 ft/ibs - 24j? enought power?

[@VikingAirgunner]

My experience it only with the Impact shooting around 30 ft/lbs, so I cant really give you an expert advise. But if I should try - Try the lighter slugs like 10 gr KnockOuts or Zan at around 900 fps. You should be able to push 13 gr aswell at around 800 fps. Wich gun are you using?

[@agbcrartsora6918]

@@VikingAirgunner I'm using a Daystate huntsman regal HR in 177 FAC 18 ft/ibs. I guess light slugs will give good result?

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@agbcrartsora6918 From what I have heard the LW barrels likes many different kinds of ammonition, and I have seen them shooting the 10 gr very well. I dont know about the KnockOuts, but in your situation I would try the ones from ZAN first 🙂

[@agbcrartsora6918]

@@VikingAirgunner do you think with 24j I can still have a relatively "flat trajectory"? I knopw is not 30j but still? thank you

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@agbcrartsora6918 People seem to like both low and high velocities with the slugs. But try them and find the right velocity and the best accuracy. I dont have experience with your gun so I dont want to claim an expert title 😃 Trail and error my friend 😃 But the 10 gr could very well be the right slug for you 🙂

[@m.o.s6275]

Have you weight these slugs? Some pellets in my country have huge weight different in same tin... So i usually test that too

[@VikingAirgunner]

Stay tuned - new video commin out Saturday 😃

[@airgunsofidaho4886]

That's awesome. Can wait to get my hands on the new .177 ko slugs.

[@VikingAirgunner]

You really have something to look forward too 😎

[@georgerowlands5100]

Hi Peter i have seen this person in england on KZbin using jsb knockout slugs 4.52mm with the pcp air rifle shooting them under 12ft *lb and the grouping was not to bad, but i am not sure about the air rifle he used or distance so if you have a chance to see him shooting them and please can you say what do you think about what you see sir

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi George Can u remember the name of the channel? I basically think that there are several velocities at wich a pellet or slug performs well. I like to push them fast, so that is why I chose to go for the setting 3,5. But since the groups on setting 1 and around 920 fps (as I remember it) were good too, I believe that they could have grouped well in that range aswell. So if ppl are getting good groups at even lover velocities, it would not surprise me at all.

[@georgerowlands5100]

@@VikingAirgunner sorry can't remember the name will try to find out it for you sir

[@georgerowlands5100]

@@VikingAirgunner just find out the name of the channel his call airgun sniper-elite not sure if i have spell it right or wrong but he has try most of the slugs in 0.177 and 0.22 as well most of the air rifles he is using are under 12ft * lb of power and i hope this will help you sir

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@georgerowlands5100 Thanks buddy 🙂 I will check it out 😎

[@georgerowlands5100]

@@VikingAirgunner you are welcome sir

[@Eldor-bz7ki]

Takk fra Norge 🤜🤛 peace 😉✌️

[@angler7696]

I like produce jsb knock out good 👍👍👍

[@danielwayn]

What liner are you using

[@VikingAirgunner]

Im using a standard STX liner with a carbon sleeve.

[@danielwayn]

@@VikingAirgunner thanks 😊

[@KAMPUNGCELANGAN]

Good fren from Indonesia 👍👍

[@joshuagibson2520]

I may have missed it, but what FPS did you shoot at in the clay on the second shot? Impressive expansion indeed.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Same speed - 985 fps 🙂 Just a different POI 🙂

[@marcobet9840]

Did you ever try NSA slug 177 20 grain ? Try it in at least 950 fps.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Only in 15 gr. What are your experiences with the 20 gr? 🙂

[@marcobet9840]

@@VikingAirgunner kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJCupWhmfLGppqc

[@marcobet9840]

My friend made this video ..it was 50 meters

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@marcobet9840 They seem to be accurate 😎

[@gustavrosejensne9452]

Dav Peter hvor køber du dine slugs henne?😊

[@VikingAirgunner]

Lidt forskellige steder. Jeg har blandt andet købt ved Mundilar, men flest ved jsb diablos i Tyskland, som jeg vil anbefale. Det er til tider svært at finde slugs på lager, men hvis man holder øje et par gange om ugen, så kan man nå at få dem, inden de bliver udsolgt 🙂

[@gustavrosejensne9452]

@@VikingAirgunner okay tak for det 😄

[@hanturimba01]

Bravo nice like👍👍👍🤩🤩🤩

[@numizaairguns1373]

Nice video

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks man 😎

[@jamesdenny4734]

Enjoyed the video, but I don't know if it was my ears, or my phone,or both. Phones volume was all the way to max n I struggled to hear you !

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi James Im glad that you liked the video - I will look into the sound! Thanks for telling me 🙂

[@kansasairhunters2057]

With that 3.5 setting...I would turn up your regulator about 2-3 bar more to close that valve a little quicker and ill bet your groups shrink again

[@VikingAirgunner]

That would be a good way to do it 🙂 Thanks for a constructive comment and thanks for watching 😎

[@robertrmckerrow1111]

Might have to weigh them slugs. Ive hear that the presses are running hard and fast because of the shut down for the pandemic. Quality control suffered...🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Robert Thats actually a great idea for at video 🙂 Accuracy testing of sorted and non sorted slugs 🙂 Best regards and thanks for the idea Peter P

[@zorsenothorse]

turn it up to the max and make it crack like a .22lr and see what it does to clay :p

[@VikingAirgunner]

😂😂

[@airsugihanhunter]

Hadir kawan 👍🙏👆👉

[@anakpedalamankampung]

Halo salam satu hoby

[@ProperRural]

That fps spread is terrible my old theoben mk2 runs about 950fps with a 4fps over 36 shots

[@VikingAirgunner]

Wow how great for you 🤗 Since I made that video alot had happend in the airgunning world. Impact Mk 2 has evolved into the M3 and I have learned alot more about tuning, so if you are ready interested in seeing this evolution and what the M3 is capeable of you are very welcome. One note: Always a good idea to check how old a video is 😉

[@johnnysmall4206]

That's more like a 14mm group in real measurement.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Would you measure from the center of the hole? 🙂

[@johnpaul8050]

All in all very poor accuracy, my AA 510S shoots hole in hole at 40 meters with jsb 4,52 diabolos

[@VikingAirgunner]

Wow I wish that I knew you better 😍