Survivor. Pushing back banks

Cleaning up from the weekend. No sound. Skyline Drive in Clinton, NY.

[@olramman]

To all the keyboard plow operators in the comment section let me explain, the V plow not only breaks into hard snow banks but it also piles the snow higher then a standard sweep , any that falls off the other side is cleaned up by another plow...I have been plowing snow for NBDOT here in Canada for 20 years and we do the same thing in problem areas where we get a lot of drifting. Anyway very cool to see the old Walters in action!

[@devildoc225]

Exactly. I explained about "stepping the banks", further up the thread. People have no clue, that V plows are an absolute necessity, where the snow falls in feet. Anyway, all the best. Be safe.

[@glenhansen5534]

Great footage, nice old rig. I run an oshkosh everytime it s 😚😙😙

[@robertg.9964]

Jon, shout out to the DOT for the paint job on the plow! I lost my mother in law to Cancer and my Dad 2 years ago to Asbestos Cancer and now I have a good friend with bone cancer. Love this Walter truck but love this plow even more! Thank you for posting such a meaningful video.

[@leehilton9932]

Robert G. The color of the plow was the main reason i watched it. My moms a survivor. Sorry to hear of your loss. Great video thou right!?

[@brucet8033]

Excellent video. Thank you. I operated these Walter's and Osh Kosh w/ rollover plows, equipment back in the day, at Griffith's Air Base in Rome. Many hours spent on the runway and streets.

[@prowlamongus]

Great video! The drone works great. I almost took Skyline on my way home from Utica today. Wish I had..

[@blackdoggxxx]

Pushin back bankings is my favorite part of storms! ❤

[@robertmintz63]

I used to be wing man in a 5 ton single axle dump truck , gas powered 478 cu Ford , & I did this high bank cut down with a champion grader / 14ft wing , 3rd - 4th gear full throttle , make it roll , -/ all county roads

[@patdoucette4349]

Now that is a plow .Plus I love the color for Breast Cancer Awareness and any other type of cancer people may be dealing with .

[@mrg74]

I plow all country roads. always amazed me the bare field and 6 foot banks

[@william38022]

Pretty cool 😎

[@harrymurphey2634]

.... HaHaHa ... it maybe have been a Ford Pick-up ... but it knows which truck is BIGGER !!! Just loved that scene .... Ford Tough meets "WALTER !!!" No contest ...

[@timothygaits7972]

The Walter Snow Fighter. LEGONDARY.

[@Thetruckhunter]

Jon this is a whole new level of bad ass!!

[@jscott127]

I only wish there was audio

[@bearasojrnr]

@@jscott127 goes Double for me. The one that used to come by our place in Cayuga County had two stacks out of the top a the hood ending on top of the cab. 1936, 700 - 900 (was told different times), cu in gas engiine. Never had a head off of it. Single wing Frink V plow. Could hear it miles away in the middle a the night when they'd come out a the city up to Frozen Ocean n on up to the county line past New Hope. Guess they got too expensive when th he gas crunch came in 74.

[@patrickc8190]

Nice job whomever is doing the filming .

[@justinharroun69]

Got them NY plates on it!

[@SPDDTI354]

Glad to see the old gal is still running

[@william38022]

Has that got one of the old two-stroke diesel’s or is it just a regular Diesel engine??? Seems to have all the power and weight it needs it does a great 👍 job

[@jscott127]

Came with an 8-71 Detroit. Re-powered with a 300 Cummins. Still has the original Allison Automatic Transmission. Plenty of torque. The bed is a solid block of concrete.

[@djwalt8]

@@jscott127 well im sure anyone who used to run the 8-71 that has run the Cummins sure appreciates the swap haha ! and so do the people along the route that truck travels lol!

[@wissell4287]

what drone do you use? DJI?

[@jscott127]

Yes

[@albertcyphers1532]

Wonder what year that Walter is. They are tough trucks

[@jscott127]

1971 Walter. Re-powered & painted in 1992

[@glenhansen5534]

Want a walt or fwd for my fleet...know of any.

[@Marcmec]

You. Should. Add a plate in the center maybe 1 meter forward and the same hight as the plow so you reduce the spill out in the road save some time in clean up.

[@robertmintz63]

CW no is right , that would keep all the snow in & build up ,& would make it to where that would make the plow & truck slide sideways

[@TheAnarchistPrince]

Who's controlling the drone?

[@jscott127]

I was flying it from the white pick up as a passenger

[@TheAnarchistPrince]

I see. nice truck what model Walter is it?

[@jscott127]

QDUS

[@TheAnarchistPrince]

QDUS... So, it always had the Allison Transmission-- I read in a book that is was an A model originally. I guess that was wrong or a typo. So, when you rebuilt it-- did you keep the Detroit Diesel in it or go to a Cummins? It really is a nice truck. I have a FEKS that I'm rebuilding with a DT466 210hp or perhaps a CAT 3116 engine to stay within the safety limits of the 6spd gearbox. Also the engine will maintain the trucks' top speed of 45mph since they both operate at 2600rpm redline. Personally, I am looking for a nice new N-Series Cab that I can put a Detroit Diesel 8V92T or 12V71TT in it. What wouldn't be better than a Snow Fighter with a 8LL gearbox and 525Hp engine with 1450ft-lbs or 1500 ft-lbs of torque.... That's just me.

[@TheAnarchistPrince]

You've got some really good drone footage you just need to edit it a little more and add some sound to it.

[@sharpshooter1749]

Hate to say it boys but ya all made a mess of the driving lane!

[@mrg74]

Sunny day like that it will melt off in no time

[@jscott127]

LOL

[@robertmintz63]

Sunny days can be 40 below , nothing melts !

[@ericl2969]

What's up with that rear axle? Does it NOT have a differential? Because all I see is an axle housing and no "pumpkin". VERY cool old truck, by the way. Okay, I found the answer myself, and for anyone else who's interested in this stuff, the front and rear differentials are mounted up high within the frame, with the wheels mounted to a basic non-driving beam suspension. Stub axle shafts go from the overhead diffs to the wheels, and at the junction to the wheel there is tremendous additional gear reduction. This means the differentials can have a lot of reserve "over-design" without being extremely large. All in all, it's a very clever and unusual design, but a design I once saw on a very old, pioneering brand of 4x4 truck of much smaller size.

[@robertmintz63]

Eric of 1yr ago . Have you looked at any of the pacific lodging truck vids or the building of the Allcan highway to Alaska ? Or the building of the roads the the mine in the extreme north Canada , those were monsters ! truck width 10 ft The drive power is accomplished through a gear reduction (planetary) in each hub , & as you said , this allows for smaller drive shaft /diff etc

[@robertmintz63]

Eric, , What vid was this of pioneer 4x4

[@ericl2969]

@@robertmintz63 Just to nitpick on the terminology so no one with an interest becomes confused, there are no planetary hubs on Walter trucks. There's just a spur gear on the outboard end of the drive axle inside of a very large ring gear. The ring gear has teeth on the inside like the ring gear of a planetary hub, but there are no planet gears and no planetary action.

[@ericl2969]

@@robertmintz63 Check back soon. I'll look it up in my old photos and post it here. And I never said there was a video, but it was a truck that I saw at a show.

[@robertmintz63]

Eric L . Thank you so very much ! 👍 I had not seen the truck you were talking about , & from the snow plow vid I could not determine what it had , I was going on speculation supposing it might be a planetary set up like my tractor , but it also has a differential, & I think the vid on the All-Can highway , or was it the 10’ wide Mack trucks built specially for going to the north , don’t remember exactly, to long ago I saw it .

[@ericnelson7524]

They should have had their lights on.

[@jscott127]

Headlights are on. If you're talking about the amber beacon, it wasn't working. I have since found & installed a NOS 4 bulb roto-beam which is the correct light for the year

[@matthewfox3760]

I see Minnesota DOT doing that quite often… I call it creating more work

[@TheUserid82]

You say that now but that will change when you get stuck behind or worse come head on to a farmer transporting equipment that takes up more then a single lane when the shoulders are full of snowbanks.

[@matthewfox3760]

Andrew H Snow farmers?

[@TheUserid82]

@@matthewfox3760 How deep do you plant snow? Farmers are using the time now to prep for the planting season as getting a good start can be a few hours difference from a disaster so those that have a number of fields to plant will shift everything to a starting point even when snow is still on the ground as a method to save a few hours of movement they could be planting.

[@oceanlover1663]

No. Its to create more room for the next snow storm without going over the bank everytime.

[@barrym4079]

It appears you need a different plow on the front. You are dragging all the snow out onto the road. Our bank wingers don't do that. A normal front plow is needed.

[@farmcentralohio]

he's using what he's got, and doing pretty good with it. where do you see "all the snow" going to the middle as you say? looks to me like at least 90% of what he's plowing is going off the road and what little is left on the road can easily be moved or left to melt. title says pushing the banks back, not plowing the road. please pay attention to the video or have a clue about what your saying before commenting.

[@1DirtyMutt]

farm.central. ohio Easily moved or Melted? If he used the correct front plow there’d be nothing to be “easily removed” and I highly doubt that’s the ONLY style plow DOT has in their inventory. And at 9:00 you see they actually have the correct tool for the job, one pass without the need for an additional driver, equipment cost etc. As for melting, it looks like the whole “melting” is a complete failure based on what most of the plowed road surface looks like especially in the later portion of the video. Common Sense can’t be taught you either have it or you don’t...

[@farmcentralohio]

@@1DirtyMutt It's a neat old truck doing it's thing and the guy made a video. Where does he say this is the proper way to do this? He doesn't. You put an awful lot of time into responding to my comment trying to make yourself sound smart for what reason? grow up and get a life junior

[@ericl2969]

@@1DirtyMutt Nothing in this clip is about "using the correct plow." In fact, the title actually says what it's about, in case you opted to read it. This truck is indeed a survivor and it's been nicely restored, and here we see it being taken out, perhaps for a demo of the old beast, or perhaps because cutting that high step is not something all plow trucks can do. And because the poster recognizes the significance of this old beast, he made a video for other gearheads to enjoy. I for one thought it was pretty cool.

[@jscott127]

We have a one way plow. But it's not the right tool for this job.

[@lotuss7135]

All messed up 😳

[@nunyabuziness8421]

Not very effective leaves too much snow behind

[@1DirtyMutt]

Using the right tool for the job saves a lot of time and money. A V plow wasn’t the right tool for the job... What Supervisor would authorize this?

[@superdog1964]

@dirtmutt- Yes, this is the right tool for the job. None of the regular plows they have can push back the TOP of the bank(s) and clear the space on the berm at the same time. This is the smartest thing they can do. Conventional plows need somewhere to go with the snow if or when the next storm hits. These plows are short and narrow at the double yellow center line of the road and tall and wide on the white fog line or berm end with a very noticeable forward curve or radius along the entire length. This allows the snow to roll or fall forward and to the right of the driver off of the roadway. This action makes it very easy for the trucks to move fairly large amounts of snow with minimum effort, maximum fuel economy and higher speeds taking the shortest amount of time to clear the road. These plows are designed for "average" seasonal snowfalls, not the 1 in 100 blizzard event. We all know what happens when Mrs. Smith is late or misses her weekly hairdresser appointment and/or her dog FiFi cant get to the groomers because of snowy roads? Just ask the Mayor or Council person at the next monthly meeting (If they can hear you? Their ears are probably bleeding profusely from the tongue lashing they just received about her horrible hair day!). In Winter seasons like this one, the time to act is NOW, not at 2AM with snow falling and the wind howling. Had this kind of proactive action not been taken, you could run into Mrs Smith and FiFi trying to go up the same road your going down? Since it is only single lane with no way to pass each other, YOU can argue about whats more important? Her new perm or the ambulance your riding in (along with the stroke you just had) and who is going to back up. If you have never run a plow, worked in emergency service or served as a public official it is probably a good idea to get more information BEFORE making a judgement call about the operations and management of your township, city or borough. You should thank the Supervisor that made this call because they may have saved your life?

[@djwalt8]

@@superdog1964 exactly a one way plow cant lift the snow high enough ! to get over 6 foot or higher berms !

[@robertmintz63]

The only problem I see here is ,,it is not going fast enough

[@thebirdhouse88]

did nothing but make a mess

[@devildoc225]

Obviously, you know NOTHING about the plowing going on here. He's stepping the banks. When you are in an area, where snow is measured in FEET, the banks have to be stepped, and pushed back, using a wing plow. This way, when it snows again, the plows can push the snow, up, and over the step they created. Otherwise, when the snow gets above a certain height, there is no place to put it. Not every town has large truck, or tractor mounted snow throwers. You don't do this, and it narrows the road, and it's ability to handle more than one lane.

[@djwalt8]

What the operator is doing is called Shelfing. It gives the plow a place to push the snow when it starts getting deep again. This is one of the highest snow fall areas of the country. They need that V plow on that truck. Yes it creates a mess when it does this job, but you notice the cleanup truck behind? A tall v allows the snow to lift higher to roll over the huge berms on the sides of the roads. This is a much faster process than a loader or blower to remove the snow.